Bigfoot Society - My Tent Was the Only Thing Keeping it From Us! (Archive Episode)

Episode Date: June 16, 2024

Originally posted 6/23/23In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah sits down with Brian Garvey, an experienced outdoorsman from New Hampshire, to delve into his harrowing 2003 Bigfoot enco...unter near Mount Washington. Brian recounts the eerie night that sparked his deep dive into the world of Sasquatch, sharing his personal and often terrifying experiences in the wilderness. He discusses his later expeditions, evidence found with his friend Evan, and collaborations with researchers. This episode unveils Brian's evolution from a casual hiker to a dedicated investigator of the unknown, highlighting his emotional journey and the broader community's efforts to uncover Bigfoot mysteries.Resources:Brian’s Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@brianandchewiegohiking2152Brian’s tent encounter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-JnTQirOWsBrian’s moose encounter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHWe6AJ9xk4Brian’s reaction to wood knocks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_56RbK5rlaUSasquatch trackway in New Hampshire - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZiEFeHCIU0Chewie vs. the Porcupine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpVWhQ5oXQkAleks Petakov’s episode of Beyond the Trail that includes Brian and the trackway - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRlX0VRXEUSasquatch: Out of the Shadows Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@SasquatchOutOfTheShadowsNew Hampshire Sasquatch Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@newhampshiresasquatch6869/videosShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:28 All right, Bigfoot Society. Thanks for coming back to another episode. I've got the privilege of talking to a new friend Mr. Brian Garvey tonight. How's it going, Brian? Very good, Jeremiah. Good to be here, man. Awesome, awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So, Brian, you are a New Hampshire-based outdoorsman and hiker, correct? Yes, yes. Since 2018, I've been hiking. Oh, that's awesome. So tell me a little bit about that. I know you've got a friend that goes hiking with you as well, and I'd like to hear all about that. Chewy? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, okay. Well, this started, 2018. In 2015, I should jump back to that. I started getting into exercising and wanting to lose weight. And I'm always looking for that extra, just that next activity to do. And because you kind of get, you get tired of running. You get tired of going to the gym. I want something outside that I love to do. And I came across in 2018. My girlfriend, now wife, took me to Mount Washington. Now, Mount Washington is located in northern New Hampshire. It's in the presidential range. It is the highest mountain in the northeast, 6,288 feet around there, roughly. I'm in the ballpark there. Big tourist destiny.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Finding Bigfoot, and I believe it was one of their last seasons. They went to Mount Washington and did an episode on New Hampshire. And that was eye-opening for me just because of what happened to me way back in 2003. It opened up my eyes and really got the light bulb go off in my head of what's going on up there. because I just, I didn't know when I, the first thing I thought of Bigfoot was when I was a kid, Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack did an episode on Bigfoot. It was like, it was like the first or second season of that. And I was just, I was just a young kid. And it was probably the first time I ever saw anything on, on Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And when you see that, that PG film, as a kid, you're in awe. Like something in the Pacific Northwest that big can remain hidden for so long. So that kind of got the, we're talking 2003. You know, I planned a trip. It was a trip with my girlfriend and my son. And my son was five and a half at the time. So we wanted to do something special at the end of the summer. This was August of 2003.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So he was going to be starting kindergarten. So he was five and a half. So kindergarten was starting a couple of weeks. We wanted to do something special. Now up in New Hampshire, in Glen, New Hampshire, they have this amusement park called Storylands. It's based for children. And I never heard of it. I've never been to New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:05:54 At the time, I was 23. So I'm like, oh, what a great idea. Get out, go see what the mountains look like. It was great. It was beautiful. So we were going to spend two days, two nights, three days at a campsite in Glen, New Hampshire. Now, Glen, New Hampshire is, it's in northern New Hampshire. It's right past the presidential range, Mount Washington.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So first night went great. Spent the whole next day at the park. Came back to that day, tired, set up the camp, you know, had the campfire go in. And they went to bed early because it was a long day. I stayed up until it was time to go to bed. You have to put the campfire out at a certain time. So around 10 o'clock, I put the campfire out, went to bed. Now, for me, and still to this day when I hike and do overnights, I can't.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I have issues falling asleep in a tent. I just, I can't sleep on my back. I am constantly a tosser and a turner. I know, like when I go on these big hikes, I know I'm not going to sleep. I'm just going to toss and turn and I suffer. I'll suffer, but I'll suffer because of my love for the mountains. Like I will get up and I'll hike the next morning. So that night, I'm just laying in the tent.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And it was hours. hours I was laying there. And I'm almost, I'm getting, you know, I'm getting mad. I'm getting aggravated because I know the next day, like we have this big drive coming up, like a four-hour drive home. And I'm like, I got to go to sleep. Now, the campsite, like the campground we had, it was right on the bend of this brook. And it was probably like nine, ten feet wide where we were, the brook.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And it was fast flowing. water. So, you know, it was something you could rock hop across because there were boulders, but it was nothing I didn't want my son to get next to because of the, you know, for his age and the way the water was moving. I'm like, you can't go next to this because on the other side was just wilderness. So we were on the out, like right on the edge of where the campground ended. So that night, I'm just, I'm listening, I'm laying there. I'm listening to the water, you know, I'm listening to all the crickets. You know, you hear like little. mice, you know, the little mice going through the leaves, you know, I'm listening to that.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And I'm like, man, I'm like, I have to go to sleep. So I'm just laying there on my back, looking up, all of a sudden, I hear this impression stop going across the tent. Now, at first, like, when I heard it, it scared me. It scared the crap out of me because I'm like, who is this jerk messing with me and my family in the middle of the night. I thought it was, you know, I'm thinking it's a person just messing with us, like a drunk camper, messing with me putting his hand across my tent.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So, you know how nylon is loud when you, a tent is loud when you rub against it. And that's what startled me. But I was able to pick up the impression of the hand, probably by the door of the tent. Now, this tent was a big tent. It was like an eight-person tent. It's one you could stand up and walk around in. So we had all our stuff on one side of the tent. I was in the middle.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It was my girlfriend and my son on the end of the tent. So my feet were at the door of the tent. So when I saw the impression above the tent, because I could see, you know, like, I could see the digits going across. And I'm like, I go up on my elbows and I'm watching. I'm about to get up. I'm about to get up and I'm about to open the tent. I'm going to see who is this jerk messing with me? Who was this jerk trying to scare me in the middle of the night?
Starting point is 00:09:52 So as it made it across the tent, I'm going to unzip my sleeping bag. And as soon as I started to do that, I hear a growl. I hear this this growl. It was the deepest growl I have ever heard. I have ever heard in my life. It went from a growl, a guttural growl to a grunt. And when it did that grunt, man, my earlobes vibrated. Like it vibrated my body to where I dropped right back down.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I dropped right back down. I put the frigging pillow over my head. And I just, I was so confused. I went from being angry and mad to want to confront this person to be like, after I heard that grunt, I'm like, that's not a person. A person, a person cannot do what I heard. And it was with such ease. It was just, it went from a, I heard the breath, the breath to the growl to the grunt.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So it was just seconds. You know what I mean? It was just seconds. But I was, I was so, I was so confused. Just, I was confused. I was scared. And I just, I just, I fell right. back down. I put the pillow over my head and I just, I waited. I waited. I was so scared because I didn't
Starting point is 00:11:22 know what, what could do that. So my first motion was like, I'm going to turn and I'm going to look, I'm going to see if it woke up my, my girlfriend and they are heavy sleepers. They were sound of sleep. Now people ask me like, well, was it loud? And it wasn't a loud, it wasn't a screen. It was just a very deep guttural growl to a grunt. And it blew my mind that it could vibrate me like that because that's never happened to me before. The closest thing I could compare it to is going to a concert. You get to that front row in front of a speaker and you got that guy on the base and it's rattling through you. That's the closest I can I can tell someone what that feels like.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And after that happened, like I told you, I was listening to the crickets. I was listening to all the little animals. After that grunt, after that vibration, it went dead silent. There were no crickets. It was dead silent where I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, I didn't, I didn't, I I couldn't move. And I don't know if I couldn't move from the fear or if it was from that, that rattle in my chest, that vibration.
Starting point is 00:12:50 It was something that I, it was, it confused me so much. They stayed sound asleep. They were sound asleep. Now, after that all happened and it went silent, I just laid there. I laid there and I couldn't. move. I just, I didn't want to move. I didn't want whatever it was. I didn't want it to know I was up. I didn't want it to come back. I'm thinking of the direction it was going. It was going in the direction. And if it came back, my son was on the end of that tent. I'm thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:13:30 This is all running through my head. I'm thinking about I don't want this thing coming back. I'm trying to think of animals. What animals could do that because that's my first instinct. Bigfoot was not, not even in my mind. It was nothing I thought about at the time. It wasn't even a thought. I thought it was in the Pacific Northwest. I'm like, if there's one, there's one in the Pacific Northwest,
Starting point is 00:13:55 that's what I thought. It was just, it blew my mind. It just, it blew my mind to where I, I didn't feel safe. I didn't feel safe until it started getting light out. And I finally was like, like I finally had that sense of relief. Like the bird started chirping.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And I finally felt, I felt safe. I'm like, whatever animal that was is definitely gone by now because it's been hours. It was hours I was laying there. And I remember that morning, I was so close to just,
Starting point is 00:14:33 I was so close to saying something to my girlfriend, but I didn't want her to say, oh, it was just a person because it wasn't a person. A person cannot do what I felt with that vocal. There's no way. It was an effortless grunt. And it was so deep. So I remember after that, like I got out, I went outside the tent that morning.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Now, I'm on no sleep. I'm on no sleep. I didn't know what to look around for. You know, I wasn't sure, but we were rookie campers. You know, my coolers were out. Like everything was out. Our marshmallows, our marshmallow sticks didn't touch it. Nothing was touched.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Nothing was moved. And I was so confused. Like, I am even looking. looking on the ground we were on. It was a hard gravely kind of hard dirt, hard gravel. I looked around for like, I first thought bear because I couldn't, I hadn't, I couldn't think of any other big animal in New Hampshire that could do what happened. And then I'm really, I'm starting to think about it.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'm like, a bear is not going to stand up on a time legs. run its pore across my tent, right? Without putting a frigging hole in it with its claws. Like, it baffled me. I'm like, there's no way I was going to make that, that vibration. Like, I've never heard of a bear doing that. And it bothered me the whole ride home. I was just so close to just saying something, but I kept it to myself.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Now, I kept this to myself for 18 years. I told nobody, nobody. It was just a heavy weight that was on my shoulders for all these years of just not knowing. Now, I remember for a couple days after we got back, I had such a hard time going to sleep because it was all I was thinking about to where I finally said, Brian, I just forget it, man. Like, just forget it. Like, you're safe. Nothing happened. Your family's fine.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Just forget it, man. You don't know what it was. So for years, years, man, I didn't, I didn't know. I didn't know until Monster Quest comes out, 2008, 2009. So we're talking five, six years. I had this weight on me. And when they talked about the John Mayansinsky Tent counter, now I'm getting goosebumps right now, just thinking about that.
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Starting point is 00:18:55 They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. He was messed with in his tent. Now, he just did an interview about a year ago on another podcast where he went to great detail, great detail on what happened. His tent was wrecked. His tent was wrecked. It was pushing down on it. And he saw the silhouette, though. He saw the silhouette when he got out of the tent in the tree line.
Starting point is 00:19:32 That got the ball rolling in my head. And then Monster Quest does one in New York, does the Whitehall. They did a New York episode. They're talking about the guy that felt the vibration, that even his pant leg, like he felt the vibrations in his leg. And it just everything, everything came rushing. back to that night, the tent for me. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm like, maybe that's what happened to me that night. Because I was, I still didn't have any answers to what happened that, that night. And when I heard that, the wheel stopped going in my head. And I'm like, oh, wow. But I still, I still, I wasn't for sure. I didn't tell. I still, it was something I still, just kept to myself.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Then finding Bigfoot, like we just said earlier, goes to what goes to New Hampshire. And I'm like, I'm like, I got to watch this. Like I got to watch this. I got to see what they say. Because I'm not going to knock finding Bigfoot. It was a great. It was an eye-opening show for a lot of people to show what is really going on. I loved when they talked about the town hall meetings.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I loved when they talked about people's encounters. and going to the sites and showing where the encounter happened. And one of the guys they had on was a guy that was camping out in his tent on Cherry Mountain. Now, this Cherry Mountain is right next to Mount Washington, which is right next to where I was camping. So I'm starting to connect the dots. I'm starting to connect the dots. I think I'm finally getting some answers to what happened to me that night. So when he said that, he was getting, he was getting sticks, branches, rocks thrown at his tent, until he was scared off the mountain.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Something scared him off the mountain. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like that. I'm like, I think I had a similar thing happened. It wasn't rocks thrown against my tent, but it was finger. Like, you know, it's been. 20 years, it'll be 20 years this August, that 10th encounter happened. It feels like it just happened yesterday, man.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like, I can just, I can just, I can just close my eyes. And I can just picture the impressions going across, man. And then the power of the vocal is just, it's something, I've had some, I've had a few traumatic things happen to me. But the one I think about the most, the one I think about every day, is that night in the tent, man. Because I have not, since this has happened, I have not been able to camp alone. I can't camp alone.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I can't go out in a tent by myself. You know, me and my dog, Chewy, he is on every adventure with me out in the mountains. And I need to go to a tent site. They have these tent sites in the White Mountain National Forest that you can stay in. You pay the caretaker a fee. It's like 15 bucks a night. You get a little tent platform, but there are other hikers there. I am fine with that.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I can camp with other people. I can stay out with other people alone in my tent. But if I am out there, I can't do it. I have chickened out twice trying to stealth camp on one of these hikes. And I'm just like, no, just go to the tent site, man. I wasn't ready. I haven't been ready to do that until this year. I am finally going to try to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:24 But we'll get into that story a little later. So that was like 2015, 2016. It was one of finding Bigfoot's last seasons when I heard this. So for me, since then, in 2018, I started getting into hiking. I did my first mountain, which I said before, Mount Washington was my girlfriend. And I instantly, I instantly fell in love with mountain hiking. I love the quiet. I love the solitude.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I'm one of those hikers. If I have the trail to myself, and I have a mountain peak to myself, that's my lottery. That's my goal. There's nothing more that I like than having that to myself. So for me, it's the solitude of the mountains.
Starting point is 00:24:17 It's the reward at the end with the epic views. So 2018, I'm going on this big hike. Like after that, Mount Washington, I had to look up. I'm like, what other mountains can I do in that area? So I find out there's this list called the New Hampshire 48. Now, New Hampshire 48 is 48, 4,000 foot peaks in New Hampshire that you can, you know, just do as a get you a little reward and get a little patch at the end when you finish, you know. I'm like, oh, that is great.
Starting point is 00:24:51 that's something I could do with my dog, but you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to document every hike. So I have a GoPro for me, and now I have a GoPro for my dog, Chewy. So I put a GoPro on him. I got a GoPro, and I'm just, I'm vlogging as I'm hiking. I, you know, I, it's not, I don't have it on constantly, but clips of just perfect views and where I'm at and what I'm doing. and we've been doing that for, it's, oh, five years now. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah. So we finished, we finished 48 in 2021. But now I've gone on to, you know, hiking from Maine and all up in these, these areas that there's not a lot of people. You're talking Maine is the, like the percentage-wise, most forested state in America. like forest to population. Absolutely. Yeah. And along with Vermont and New Hampshire, those, those, those, if you want, if you want solitude,
Starting point is 00:25:56 you want, you want, you want to go hike and be in a quiet area where there's not a lot of rural or a lot of people, that's where you want to go. New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine. So, 2018, we're doing this big hike. Now, this, this hike is, is called the Pemi Loop. Now, they call it the Pemi Loop. because you're in this section of the White Mountain National Forest. This White Mountain National Forest is 800,000 acres of protected forest. It's a massive, that's massive.
Starting point is 00:26:31 It's mind-blowing. It's a lot of land. And you have these pockets here and there in New Hampshire where it's just protected forest. There's maybe one trail going in. You might have a trail of few. miles away, but it's just you in that trail in rugged wilderness. Now, the one thing I want to say about how rugged it is in New Hampshire, I mean, they don't call the Granite State for nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know, I mean, it's golden. It's granite. It's rock. I mean, your feet doing a big height. By the end of that hike, your feet are junk, you know, you're carrying a big multi-day pack, like a 40-pound pack. Over mountain peaks. Now, this Pemajah, watch it, it's a big 31.5 mile hike over 13 mountain peaks.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Some people do it in like a day. The nuts, the runners, those marathon, like those, you know, ultra marathon people will jog it slowly and it will take them like 16 hours. We do it in a day and a half. We're pretty fast hikers being chewy, but we'll do it overnight. We'll stay at a at a campsite and then we'll finish it the next day. So I'm on my way up this trail. Now this section of the Pemma Jawasit Wilderness, it's 46,000 acres of the 800,000 acres of the White Mountains. It's the biggest area of the White Mountains in one area because it's broken up through the state, the White Mountains.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So we're on this trek. I'm like, we're going to bang out 12, 13 peaks. I'm like, this is great. So we're on our way up. Now, to go into this area, you have to go into the Lincoln Woods. Now, this Lincoln Woods, there's this bridge you walk across. And once you walk over that bridge, over that Pemmy River, it's just you in the wilderness. There's no cars that can get in.
Starting point is 00:28:41 There's nothing. It's just pure solitude. Now, this Lincoln Trail, this Lincoln Trail, this Lincoln Wood's Trail, it breaks up to this Lincoln Brook Trail and Franconia Brook Trail. We're taking the Franconia Brook Trail up to the one section to go to do a whole full circle of the mountains because the mountains, it's like 12 mountains in a big circle. And in the middle is the Pemi Wilderness. It's just where no one goes. Nobody goes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:16 There's no trail going right through it. So it's forest that there's not, there's some people, there's places that people haven't even gone in there. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely, man. It's, you know, I grew up in, um, in western Massachusetts in a town called Northfield. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Um, and so my father was big. into the outdoors and I hiked all of Connecticut in Massachusetts on the Appalachian Trail with him over the years and I know exactly these areas you're talking about New Hampshire and listeners need to know this is nothing to mess with at all this area that Brian is talking about is life or death type stuff and absolutely yeah Unfortunately, that there have been a lot of deaths on Mount Washington. Oh, yeah. They have a list up when you get on the peak.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You go into the conservatory. And they have a list of all the people that died. And even just in the White Mountains alone, we had, I think, four deaths this year of, you know, you could be at the bottom. You could be at the bottom of the parking lot. You could be in shorts and a T-shirt. It'd be, you know, high 50s. You get up into the 5,000-foot elevation range. it could be a white out.
Starting point is 00:30:44 This game over, yeah. The weather changes on a dime up there. And if you're not prepared and you venture off trail just a little bit and you get lost, it's going to be very hard to find you because you don't have cell service up there. If you don't have, if you're not prepared with like a beacon or I carry a garment with me, I carry a satellite phone just in case. Unfortunately, we had a 19 year old. pass away this year. You know, she
Starting point is 00:31:13 was trying to finish her 48, and she had like eight mountains left, and she just lost her way on a place. I've been a few times, and it's easy to miss where you're going to go and end up in a gully, and then you're lost,
Starting point is 00:31:30 and unfortunately, she died on a birthday. So, it's stuff that happens in there. If you're not, it's just a lack of preparation. And like you said, But it's nothing to mess with one because you could go four or five yards off trail. And sometimes you have trouble finding that trail again.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It's happened to me a few times. And I am so lucky I carry a Garmin that has the map, it has the satellite map and I can get back on trail because there's been a few times where I'm like, oh, no. I've got a mom off trail. So we're going up this, this Lincoln Brook Trail. Now, you're pretty much following Brooks from miles on these trails, and you're in a ravine, the ravine in between these mountains. And I'm going up this trail, and it was in July we're doing this hike. Some of these trails you're in, very, very, it's like you're going in a tunnel. It's beautiful, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:37 The foliage is so thick. It's almost like you're in a tube of. a wave. It's just that thick. I'm walking. I'm la-di-da. This is my second time filming, okay, with a GoPro. And I'm just going along, I'm going to chewing on the side of me. And as I'm walking on this trail, about nine feet up from me, this branch shakes. It scared the crap out of me. As soon as I saw it out of the corner of my eyes shake, I just did a 180 man and I go back about 30, 40 yards
Starting point is 00:33:12 okay? I gather myself and I got my GoPro out and when that happened everything from 2003 just rushes back to me that that feeling
Starting point is 00:33:28 of being scared stiff it just that it brought back that night at the 10 to where I was so confused. I was so confused I was so scared. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I'm going to see it. Like, I'm going to see this thing. I'm finally going to see it. Like, I'm getting my answers. I'm waiting for like two minutes,
Starting point is 00:33:53 man. Two minutes. I got the GoPro going. Just standing there just with the GoPro. Chewings on the side of me. And all of a sudden, you know, I'm still seeing the rustling. And I'm like, oh, my God. All of a sudden, this big. Big friggin moose comes out onto the trail. That's scary though, dude. People don't understand how scary that is. And it wasn't a little moose. This thing had a full rack.
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Starting point is 00:36:01 Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music, or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. I went from like pure like almost glad because of what I thought it was, because I was scared, man, to almost like, oh my God. I'm like, is this thing going to charge me?
Starting point is 00:36:33 I'm like, they do. Yeah. I have no weapon. I carry a tactical knife. I don't have a gun. This thing is just out on the trail and just eating the vegetation. So that's what it was doing when I saw the branch shake. But I couldn't see a thing. That's how thick the vegetation is. So when people say, oh, how come like a Sasquatch, how come, you know, something eight feet tall, you can't, you know, you can't see it. dude go into the white mountain national forest go when it's full foliage you can't see three five yards in you can't see i couldn't see a freaking 1200 pound moose i couldn't see it until it came out onto the trail
Starting point is 00:37:19 oh yeah so i'm like i'm there scared i'm still filming the thing now i look down at my dog now what i have to say about shooey because it comes into a factor later on what's happened to us out there. Any squirrel chipmunk deer,
Starting point is 00:37:41 anything deer and lower, he's going to chase. He's going to beeline it and he will chase. I will scream at the top
Starting point is 00:37:47 my lungs, Chewy! There is no, he is just, it's like a shark, it's like a shark sensing blood. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:54 He just boose. Oh, wow. And he was more scared than I was when that moose popped out. Like he did, he did not want to move. I was on that trail, man, for three or four minutes. Not moving.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Wave that moose to get off the trail so I could keep going. The thing is, I had to drag Chewy. Now, he had a harness on him. And so I am dragging him to get by this moose, which was probably by the time I got by the moose. It was probably about 15 yards in, but I'm like, this is my chance. This is my chance to get by this moose.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So after all that happened, my adrenaline is crazy. It's just my heart is like, I was so thankful nothing happens. Like I don't know anything about moose like the rut, you know, like I didn't know. Oh, you didn't know anything about moose steering? Oh my goodness, Brian.
Starting point is 00:38:47 That's horrifying. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know. I'm not going to make noise that go hide behind a tree because it's just going to knock that freaking tree right down coming at me. I just think I stood there's still, still, still. I was so scared.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Oh, man. So after that happened, all I could think about, all I could think about was that night in the tent and what happened to me that night. It brought back that fear, that fear of being scared stiff to where I'm like, I'm like, I remember when I finished that hike, man, as soon as I got home, I was never a YouTube guy. You know, I was never a tech guy. I didn't start watching YouTube until 2018. I never got into it. So I'm like, I got to find answers. I got to find answers and what happened to me that night.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You know, because the shows gave me, you know, like I said, the light bulb went off a little bit with those monster quest and finding Bigfoot. Right. Thinking about that. So I go home and I put in New Hampshire Sasquatch. and Coas County Wood Devil pops up. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:02 Oh, God. I'm glad we're going here because I was like, I'm really curious if he's gone here before. I'm glad to bring this up. Dude, when that popped up,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, Sasquatch. Little did I know. Back in the late 1800s, early 1900s, when there were encounters back then, they didn't call them
Starting point is 00:40:27 what we call them now. They called them wood devils. Yeah. Wool devils and hairy men. And I, that sent me, dude, anyone knows who gets into this Sasquatch realm, you go down that rabbit hole. I went down that rabbit hole, man, and I was just, Sasquatch Chronicles pops up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah. Chronicles. Didn't know what it was. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then I saw I listen to a couple episodes. I was hooked. I was hooked.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I was listening to it at work all day. I had my earbuds in. I'm listening to Sasquash Chronicles episodes. I went all the way back to episode one, and I just listened to all of all. And I'm hearing all these similar encounters. I'm hearing these tent encounters. In New Hampshire, I'm hearing a woman's tent encounter in her yard in New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:41:22 from camping with their kids, where a juvenile Sasquatch was running and went along their tent and rubbed across their tent. And I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, I was, it's happened to other people, but I'm finally getting these answers. So, wow. So that was 2018 that happened. And it didn't, it didn't, you know, I still didn't. didn't say anything to anyone because it's very taboo up here in the Northeast.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Absolutely. Absolutely, dude. And that is a big problem up here. You don't hear a lot of, you don't hear a lot of encounter. People don't tell what's going on. For one, a lot of it happens on private lands. Like I've talked with Alex Petikoff and another buddy of mine, Evan. He goes by New Hampshire Sasquatch. He's another guy that collects, he collects eyewitness data on encounters, and they've collaborated together, him and Alex, and they have a map of these cluster areas in New Hampshire where there are these encounters and sightings. And it just, it blew my mind. It blew my mind. And like I said, I'm doing a lot of these hikes in this wilderness. And this one hike comes up.
Starting point is 00:42:53 This hike is called Owls Head. Oh, that sounds really familiar. This Owls Head is in the Pemmi-Jawaset Wilderness. Okay. This is a 17.2 mile hike. You're going, just to get to the base of the mountain, you're going eight miles into the wilderness. So I'm taking that same route. Like I said, I took the Lincoln Brook Trail on that Pemi loop, and the other trail,
Starting point is 00:43:23 when you veer off to the left is the Franconia broke trail. Oh, yep. So I'm on that Franconia broke trail going up to this, going up to this Owls Head. Now, this Owls Head, this was number 43 for us on the New Hampshire 48. So I was getting close to the end. I was doing a lot of hiking around that time. 2019, I really started really just every other week.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And I am just going and I'm banging out mountains. And I'm banging out mountains. This is the one no one wants to do because let alone it's a 17.2 out and back hike, but it's a viewless peak. There is nothing to look at at the top. So it's one of those like, ugh, like let's just get it out of the way. Now it's turned out to be one of my favorite hikes because of what's happened. So we're on this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and I'm about three and a half miles in. in you come to this, it's a pond.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's called Black Pond. So I take this, it's a bushwhack I could take to save me like 0.2 miles. It was 0.4 miles total to save to do this. Brian, that's the start to a really bad story. Okay, so I'm going to bushwhack in the middle of the Pemmy Wilderness. It's a fairly, it's a trail that a lot of people use, but they don't paint it well. So you do have the foot traffic to where you can follow it pretty well. But I mean, gorgeous, gorgeous area.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I'll send you a picture of it. It's a beautiful area. It's a pond in the middle of nowhere, like glass. You know, it's like looking at glass and you get the mountains coming, you know, the mountains in the background and you get in the mountains on the water. Just a beautiful area. I'm like, oh, go to a perfect spot for me and Chui to have a water break. Say where I'm at with my GoPro and stuff and what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And we'll just get back on this bushwhack. So now when I'm on these hikes, like, Sasquatch is not on my mind 24-7. Like, I'll listen to a podcast on the way up. You know what I mean? I'll listen to a story on the way up. Once you get into that mode of hiking, it's not thinking about that stuff, you know. So we're about halfway down, halfway done with this bushwack. and I'm just going la-di-da now what I want people to know is like I'm not filming constantly
Starting point is 00:46:00 anyone that has a GoPro those batteries do not last you know so I'm just I am doing highlights of the hike like a few minutes here I'll say what I'm doing a few minutes there you know I'll turn Chewys on when we're at like a peak I'll put Chewys GoPro on and get his point of view so we're on this path and all of a sudden I hear this Wap, wap, wap, wap, wap, wap, wap, six of them, six of them to where my eyes were flinching. I was flinching, it was that loud off to my right.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Like someone banging a hammer, and you don't know they're going to bang the hammer and you're next to them and you're like, you like that, you're like flinching. Yeah. I was so confused. The first thing I thought of was woodpecker. You know, you first,
Starting point is 00:46:46 you think of the first animal that can do that, that is, that comes to your mind. I first thought woodpecker. And I'm like, that can't be a woodpecker. That's not enough to make you flinch like that, though. It's way too loud. It's way too hard. It was very hard and fast.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And just six of them, 12 to 15 seconds go by. And I get six knocks to my left, a little further away, a little further away. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like, it just happened to all the day. But a little further away, 12 to 15 seconds later, I get six knocks way way off to the front of me. At that time, I pop on my GoPro. I pop it on. I just heard knocks in three different directions.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'm saying what's going on. I'm so used to doing it on my hikes that it's to me it's like my GoPro, I'm talking to a person. That is like my safety valve. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here by myself. You know, I'm going out to these places. It's just me and the dog. So that's kind of my lifeline.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I kind of look at it. So I'm saying what's going on. I mean, I'm F-bombing. I have it all on camera. You know what I mean? I'm saying what happened. And I was just so, I was so confused. And I was like, oh my God, I'm like, I'm hearing Knox in three different directions,
Starting point is 00:48:17 six, six and six. I'm like, that's, that's, it's not. not an echo. I'm like, it's not an echo. So I do my thing. I'm walking on the trail. It was a few minutes. I have the GoPro going. So I put Chewy's GoPro on and I'm like, I got to see, I got to see if it happens again. I was in that area. I was probably like, it was like 10, 15 minutes. I'm going. I'm just, I'm kind of pacing back and forth, man. I'm pacing back and forth. I'm looking around and it's quiet, you know, you hear the occasional bird, you know, but it's just quiet. I'm watching my dog. I'm seeing how he's acting. And he's sniffing around and kind of
Starting point is 00:48:57 looking around, but he's not on that high alert. So I kind of was like, oh, like, okay. So I like, say my GoPro, I'm like, all right, I'm just going to keep on going. Shut my GoPro off. Dude. 10 seconds later, six knocks again to my right. Oh, man. I was like, I was so afraid and confused because it's never, I didn't put any stock into the knocks ever in these stories where I hear these guys banging on trees. I'm like, what are you doing, man? I'm like, come on. Like, you're banging on trees. I, until it happened to me, and of course, in the back, I'm starting to think Sasquatch. After the six knocks, three knocks to my left, same distance a little further way as the once prior.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And right at that moment, I felt like I was in a crossfire of communication. That's what felt like at the time. And I was so, I wanted to see what was doing it because the ones to my right were the closest. And those were the ones that kept going first before the rounds again. but after the three to the left, three to the freaking front of me, the ones that were far away, it happened again, three.
Starting point is 00:50:24 So six, three, three on that second round of Knox. Man. GoPro goes back on. I'm like, it just happened again. Now, anyone that wants to watch this, I put it up on my channel.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Like, it's just raw and unedited. Oh, yeah. No, it's going to definitely be in the show notes. It's, I mean, it's,
Starting point is 00:50:44 it's a requal. I sent you a few things. And that's one of them. That was one of them. And I got so scared because I don't know what those knocks mean, man. Oh, that's the thing. No one does, right? No.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So when I see these guys knocking, I'm like, what are you doing? Because you don't know what that means. Yeah, man. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here, and one here, One here. You need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP.
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Starting point is 00:52:35 Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed Sponsored Jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe. be everything happens for a Reese's. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. Going out with guys that like to knock, you know, and I get scared when they knock because I'm like, dude, you don't know what that means, man. You can have as much fun as you want to bang on that, but you don't know. Because when I'm going out on like these researching, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:11 investigations with Alex and stuff. I'm not a knocker, man. I am one of those guys. I want to sit and be quiet and just let nature come to me. You know what I mean? Let their curiosity come check me out. I don't want to, I'm not swinging anything, man, because I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Well, as all this is going on, I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I got to call Alex. That's awesome. Yeah, totally. I didn't know who to talk to. And I'm going to skip back a minute because the first time I came out with my story of what happened to me in that tent, it was like a month after my dad died. I was in such an emotional state. That was December of 2020.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Oh, wow. And after that happened, I'm thinking about this heavy weight that's been. on me with this this tent thing because I kind of had a clue what it was um but I still haven't told anyone and and I remember going on a winter hike and I was just so ready to just I needed to just I needed to just say it so I had my GoPro I just started filming myself as I'm hiking on this winter hike about what happened to me in that tent and it was like a 16 17 minute video of me just It was my first time ever it coming out of my mouth. And I felt so good after finally saying it, even if it was just to the camera, man, it felt so good to say it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 But it was something that I sat on. I sat on it for a month. I didn't post it on my channel. I waited because I didn't want, like I was saying, it's very taboo up here. I didn't want to get that look. I didn't want to get that look like, oh, this guy's freaking crazy. You know, like he's spewing this crap. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I didn't want that for my family. You know what I mean? I didn't want that. I didn't want to be let down. Do you know what I mean? I didn't want that negative feedback from it. You know what I mean? Oh, I get it because I grew up first 20 years of my life were in New England.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And it's like it's a lot of there's an unwritten thing where it's like, did you just just shut your mouse and you're not the guy that starts talking about stuff and I wasn't into big foot back then it's like I heard maybe one thing growing up about something weird and it was like about coy dogs it wasn't bigfoot old timers on a porch talking about coy dogs if you get yeah but I totally am with you man like in that area of the US you just usually don't open your mouth about you don't and it's Especially that you don't, like I said, you don't want to, you know, I don't want to tell my, you know, like my mother or my girlfriend and have a look at me like, like that, give me that look. I didn't want to be let down. So when I'm like, you know what? I'm like, I'm going to upload it onto my channel. And I'm going to see if someone will reach out to me to see what, to see if I could have someone to talk to about it.
Starting point is 00:56:40 So I put it out and then I finally shared it on social media. I put it on the Sasquatch Chronicles fan page on Facebook. Oh, he's solid. Yeah. Yeah. So I just got this outpour of comments. I bet. Positive comments that I was like, oh, it felt so good finally to have other people share
Starting point is 00:57:03 their stories with me that I've had something similar happened with feeling the vocals or people from New Hampshire that watch me and be like, oh, my God, like, I didn't even know what was going on up here. Like, people, like, I was like, oh, like, it was such a weight being lifted off my shoulders after 17 years of not telling anyone. So I get this instant message from a guy I didn't know. And he's like, hey, man, he's like, I just saw your post on, uh, your post on, uh, Sasquatch Chronicles, he's like, I'm from New Hampshire. He's like, I make a lot of documentaries, mostly on cryptids.
Starting point is 00:57:45 He's like, I do a lot of local stuff. He's like, if you ever want, he's like, if you could, you know, fill out this information, like an encounter so he could keep a record of it. I was like, oh, sure, man. Yeah, I could do that. But first, I wanted to look him up. I wanted to see who this guy was because I'm not, I don't want to be ridiculed. I don't want to be like, like it's a true.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You know what I mean? Like I'm getting bamboozled or anything, you know? Like Alexander Petacoff. I'm like, who is this guy? Sounds weird to me. Right? So I'm looking at him. I see his profile with his camera and he's, you know, and I look at his stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:25 He's like, yeah, I'm a local doc. You know, he's like, I make a lot of documentaries. And I was like, oh, wow. So I looked at all this stuff. I'm like, oh, wow, he is legit. Like, he really wants to know. And ever since that day, like, We had that connection with the mountain hiking because he's done the New Hampshire 48 as well.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And I was like, oh, wow, finally someone I could talk to about this. And of course, everyone now in the YouTube world who follows the Sasquatch, you know, rabbit hole knows who Alexander Pedicoff is now. I would hope that everyone listening knows who Alex Pedicott is. And if you don't, you really need to. Bye bye. I'm going to have a few links in the show notes just in case that one person doesn't know. Oh, yeah. We need to make that different.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So, yeah. Yeah, because there's something me and Evan found, you know, last year where we had to call Alex for help on this. And it ended up being a small monsters. He ended up doing up Beyond the Trail episode of what we found. So we'll get into that a little bit later. Yeah. So I talked to him and he's like, yeah, he's like, oh, I have this. the Sasquatch
Starting point is 00:59:38 out of the Shadows YouTube channel. That's, you know, before that's before he hit like the, let's call him the celebrity and the Sasquatch, you know. Yeah, people might not realize,
Starting point is 00:59:52 so that's true, people might not realize that he has an amazing YouTube channel with some of the best bigfoot themed interviews that exist on YouTube. He does. And I'm counting everyone.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Like, yeah. It is a great, I mean, from Meldrum to Breed, like, he's had everyone on there. And Alex is very articulate. He is very good with his words. He's, he's great interviews, great, just a great guy all around. You know, I, I always tell him, like, Alex, I just, you know, I just talked about you again. Like, you know, like, yeah, I'm like, nothing bad, buddy, you know. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:31 But, you know, I am so lucky that he reached out to me. because what a ride it's been since we've met. And I'm so lucky to have him as a friend now. And man, what a great guy. And yeah, anyone out there, I would, yeah, go on to his, he's not on the Sasquatch. He doesn't do anything much with it anymore because of the STM. He doesn't do anything on the Sasquatch out of the Shadows channel,
Starting point is 01:01:02 but there's still all that great content. Oh, it's so good. Like his first documentaries, you know, like it's just really good stuff, just down-to-earth stuff. It's just like watching it be on the trail app, pretty much. It really is, yeah, really is. So now we'll get since now I said who I was texting while all this is going on. Right. I have no service out there when those knocks happened.
Starting point is 01:01:28 We are, we're four miles into this hike where there is nothing else out there. No service. But I am texting. I must have been, it was so long. I'm sending him everything that's going on. So you're texting him without service. And then when you get back to service, it's going to send.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Okay, I get it. Yes. Right after everything happened, I was there for probably 15 minutes. I am just writing this whole story of what's going on. Finally, I get to the base of the mountain. After all this has happened, it finally goes through.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Wait a minute. What? I'm like, Alex, I'm like, I'm in the Penny Wilderness, man. I'm like, I just had some crazy happen, man. So I'm like, I will call you when I get home. I called him the next day. I called him the next day. I told him what happened.
Starting point is 01:02:25 He's like, dude, he's like, he's like, man. He's like, you know, if you want, Brian, it's like, How don't you come on to my show and tell your story of what's happened with you? And I was a little hesitant at first because, like I said, I've talked about it one time. And I was to a camera. Like, I never talked with people, you know, to another person. And I was like, you know what? I'm like, I'm getting all this positive feedback from my post.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, come on, man. So his podcast was the first podcast I really started to listen to like the live streaming. Right. And he had on, and you know, one of the first ones I watched, he had Doug Highcheck on. I mean, he had Doug Highcheck on twice. So everyone, I really, oh, the information I got out of that, those two shows with Highcheck, oh my God. Yeah, they're good.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Yeah. What a wealth of information. Like I was like when I went on, I was like a kid in the candy store. I had so many questions in the live streams. I had so many questions. And Doug was answering it all. And I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, I wish I could have found this sooner.
Starting point is 01:03:36 But I am so thankful that I finally found this. So we started talking about, I'm like, maybe these Sasquatch have like some kind of scent gland. Because you hear some encounters, you smell nothing. And you have others where they smell this. ditch. So I threw that question out there. Hi-check was like, yeah, he's like, I believe these things do have like some kind of gland that they can let out this stench, almost like a defense, like a skunk does as a defense mechanism. I was like, yes. I'm like, maybe, maybe it could either, or in the south, maybe they smell a little more because of the different temperatures, the humidity
Starting point is 01:04:20 and up north, it's not as bad up here and you're in the higher elevation. So maybe that's something because that night in the tent, man, I smelled nothing. I smelled nothing. All I could smell that night was, you know, how the, like I said, I was near running water, that wet smell, you know, that misty smell. Right. That's all I smelled that night, man. So, but that got, that was very interesting for what Mr. Hijack said.
Starting point is 01:04:48 But, you know, when I went on Alex's show and I started telling them, you know, what was going on and everything. thing. I've had other stuff happen. A week later, I'm on. After all those knocks happened and I did that hike, I'm like, I got to get back out there. I have got to get back out there next weekend. And I went back out into the same wilderness, that same Pemi wilderness. And I wanted to do, you could do the PEMI loop. Like I said, it's a 31.5 mile total. Or you could do a semi, you could do a semi-Pemi loop.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You could do half of it because there's a trail that runs all the way up. That 13 Falls Trail is what I took when I saw the moose. You could keep taking that straight up and you could just cut that Pemi loop in half. And you just do half of it. My goal was to go knock a couple more mountains that I didn't get. I'm like, I'm going to knock those two off. But I'm going to make it worth it and do a semi-Pemi loop. So I'm right back out there next weekend, man.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And what was great about this weekend, it was Memorial Day weekend, okay? It was the end, you know, and what was good was that it was the long weekend, but what sucked is the weather. The weather, I knew the next day on my day two hike was going to be 60% rain, 40 to 50 mile an hour winds by June. So by noon. So I knew that next morning. I really had to hustle to get out of there. So I'm going back down and it's starting to rain, extremely windy. The good thing was because the weather was so bad, there weren't a lot of people out.
Starting point is 01:06:36 So like I said, I love when I have the trail to myself. No matter what's happened, I still love it. We're going down this 13 Falls Trail again. And it's right near where I had the moose encounter, you know, two, three years prior, you know. And I'm like, oh, this is great. Like I'm going down this corridor of that, that, that, that tube of a foliage. And when I'm getting to the end of these heights, it's kind of when I'll start, that's when I'll start looking around. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:09 I'll watch my dog. I'll see how what he's looking at. You know, if he kind of perks up and looks, I'll look what he's looking, you know, because I know my dog so well. Right, right. and I'll know what he'll chase and what he won't chase. So I know if it's anything bigger than a moose, he's not moving. He's going to hide behind dad, you know? Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:09:25 And I'm walking and we're kind of in like this muddy area, very muddy from the rain. And it was kind of like a little swampy area. And I'm looking off the embankment. And it was just this smooth as peanut butter like a quick mud. It was a very big area. And it was just so smooth. but there was just weird, like big circular impression in the middle. Like, oh, that's odd.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I'm like, what the heck is that? Because there was nothing else within 20 feet of it. It was just this perfect, like I said, smooth as ice. But there's just this big, this big, circular impression in the middle. And I'm like, wow. I'm like, I'm going to try to get up and take a picture with my camera, with my phone. I'm going to go near the embankment. I'm not going into that quick mud because if I go on that quick,
Starting point is 01:10:18 mud man it's like that you know you're done lift your boot up you might lose your boot yeah I didn't want my dog for my dog follows me everywhere I'm like he carries a pack I don't want him going into the mud and getting all I keep my video equipment some of my stuff in his pack as well so I could just hurry up and grab it yeah so he's off to the side of me and I got this 40 pound pack now this is day two this is two weeks in a row of long hikes I did the The Owls had the week beef prior.
Starting point is 01:10:49 That was 17.2. Now this one is over 20 miles, but I went over six peaks. So I am physically exposed. Oh, man. Like, I remember at the end of this hike, even though I'm kind of looking around for tracks and just looking at, like, just being aware of my surroundings. Like, I am just, I am so fatigued. Like, on this, I remember this was like the worst ending to one of my hikes because I am fighting, fighting every step. It's just like, oh.
Starting point is 01:11:19 And like I said, you're carrying this big pack. And it's just, I'm like, I still have another six miles. Right. You know, at least I'm back onto the flat. So as I'm going up to get this, this photo of this, this just, it could have been anything. It could have been like an animal that fell from a tree branch and just right into the middle. You know, it was just around. And I wanted to just try to get a photo of it.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Now, as I'm doing this. Off to the diagonal, like off to the right, I'm hearing bipedal footsteps. Really? That's wild. Oh, wow. Now, I'm out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you're way out there. You're miles away from everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:04 I'm six miles away. Oh, my goodness. Now, anyone that's listened to this right now, I highly suggest go on Google Earth, put in Owl's head, okay? you're going to see the Lincoln Brook Trail and the Franconia Brook Trail and you're going to see the Pemey Wilderness. You're going to see how far out I was on this Franconia Brook Trail. I am six miles away from my truck. The closest trail to me was three miles way off to me to do the Owls Head at least three miles. So I'm like, the first thing I'm like, who is walking off trail on a day like this?
Starting point is 01:12:46 in the middle of nowhere. As I'm hearing this and I make a movement down to look, it stops. The steps stop. I look over to my dog to see what he's doing. Now, like I said, when Chui sees an animal,
Starting point is 01:13:12 deer or lower, he's going to chase that frigging thing. He is just staring to the direction. I heard the steps and he's not moving, man. He is on high alert and he is not moving. So what I start doing, I have these, like these evergreens in front of me. And then there's like this, there's like a nice open area and then more trees scattered.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I'm going like this. I'm rocking looking in between the trees like this. See, I don't know why I started doing that. I think it was, I wanted to stay quiet. I didn't want to keep, like, pittering around. I wanted to see if I could see what was doing that. Oh, wow. I'm like, that's not a freaking person.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Chewy is not a people person. If he sees a person, he's going to growl or he's going to be like, he's not going to run up to a human. You know what I mean? But he will growl at the person or someone's going to say, oh, hey, you know, could you put your dog on leash? Or if it was a human, you know what I mean? To just stop. and not move anymore. So as all this is going on, I am frozen.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Now, my dog is off leash, okay? I want to bring up this encounter that Evan told me about, because through me telling my story, Evan reached out because he heard what happened to me with the vocals, and he had something similar to him with the vocals, where he felt like a cat was purring on his chest, on his neck. That's how he
Starting point is 01:14:52 his vibration. So we had, me and Evan had that connection. And we, and when I came out my story, we have become very close friends talking about, you know how it is
Starting point is 01:15:03 when you talk with your Sask watch buddies. You can talk. Oh, yeah, no, totally. And I'm sure a lot of listeners get that for sure, yeah. I've talked to this guy for hours
Starting point is 01:15:12 on all the encounters in New Hampshire that people don't want anyone else to know. Oh my goodness, yeah. A lot because it's, on private land. People don't want to mess with. But he told me this one. It's on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I highly recommend anyone that is interested in this story. Go to New Hampshire Sasquatch on Instagram. He puts out, he'll put where the encounter was. He'll have a picture of where the encounter was, you know, from Google Earth. And he'll have someone to illustrate what happened. happened, you know, like a drawing of what happened. So he's telling me about this one that happened on Mount Cabot. Now, Mount Cabot is the furthest 4,000 footer, the northernmost 4,000 footer in New Hampshire,
Starting point is 01:16:06 because then you have Vermont and then you have Maine. So when you're up at that peak on Cabot, you're looking at Vermont. You're right on the border. Okay. Now, this Mount Cabot, at the base of this where you part, is the New Hampshire fishing game fish hatchery where they do all their fish spawning. Free food for wildlife, if you know what I do. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:28 No, that's perfect. Now, this area is thick, so thick of vegetation. It looks like Vermont. Now, if anyone has not been to Vermont, it's maple trees galore, okay? Greenest, beautiful, beautiful area. I mean, when you are, you want to see green. If you can't go to Ireland, go to Vermont. It's gorgeous, especially in the fall.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Vermont is gorgeous for the fall foliage. It's like the forest is on fire with oranges, yellows, reds. But this woman was doing a mountain hike, a sunset hike up to the cabin on Mount Cabin. There's a cabin you can stay in at the peak. I've never done it, obviously, because of what's happened to me. Alex has stayed in that thing, Petikoff. He stayed in that overnight. And he said, if you don't mind mice, he's like, it's a great cabin to stay in because of the skeletal.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Oh, that's funny. Yeah. So he's telling me this woman goes with her dog, a shepherd, a German shepherd like chewy, and off leash. And the dog was ahead of her. Now, she's going up to this cabin to catch the sunset. Now, when she notices her dog stop and look at the tree line, and it's growling. the dog is growling at the tree line. And this woman's like, you know, trying to recall her dog.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Dog won't move. All of a sudden, this big creature comes out, grabs the dog. Now this woman goes in shock, like fear. Fear. Fear. Now, her dog is yelping, okay? Yelping with the thing, the creature has the thing in its arms. I hate telling this story.
Starting point is 01:18:16 but it's because of what happened to us with those footsteps, I got to tell it. The creature just snaps that dog's neck and walks off with it. And she called the cops. She called the cops to tell them what happened. And of course, this is what the cops said. Oh, it was probably a bear. It's probably a bear. I was like, she told Evan what it was.
Starting point is 01:18:44 you know, she's like a Sasquatch came out, grabbed my dog and broke its neck. Now, she was hysterical. Okay. When I hear that, because I'm always hiking alone with my dog, I don't want anything bad happen to my best buddy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:19:00 Like, he has been on every hike with me. He is with me every day. You know, he's like my son for crying out loud. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't mean anything bad happened to my dog. So when those footsteps stopped When we're on that trail
Starting point is 01:19:18 I got really scared I got I got really scared I got scared for my dog I was scared from me but I was scared I didn't want anything bad happen to my dog So I go like this to the dog I don't want to make a huge noise Because I wanted to I wanted to see if I could see
Starting point is 01:19:37 What was making those footsteps I'm like He looks at me and then stairs right back to where we heard that. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm like, something big is there. Because like I said, if it was an animal, I said, I heard the bipedal. There's a big difference between two steps and a four-legged creature. You know, there's more, this was, it was clearless day.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And because of the rain and it was muddy, you could really hear from. footsteps pretty good, especially when you're out in the middle of nowhere. It's so quiet out there. You have none of that ambient sound. So you could hear it and clear his day. So I'm like, oh my God. So as soon as I saw him look back, I went right over to a man. I latched him up. I latched him up. I waited. Now, during this whole ordeal, like I said, this is the end of our hike. I didn't have my GoPro going. My GoPro was dead. It was raining. In that state, where I didn't care. I'm at the end of the hike.
Starting point is 01:20:44 It's raining. I feel like crap. My feet, my feet are beat from these two long weekends of hiking. I had nothing left in the tank. Nothing left. And I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:20:56 But it was that feeling, and this has happened to Alex and one of his buddies on one of his hikes. It's that feeling of being watched. Oh, dude, I've been there so much. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Dude, I know. I know. The next year, stands up. Oh yeah. And it's almost like, it's like I felt like prey.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Oh, yeah. Like I think of a bunny rabbit, right? And maybe the big bad wolf is there. That instant, like that sixth, like that sixth sense. I think we all have that. We all have that. But we lose, because of technology,
Starting point is 01:21:39 we kind of lose our senses. Do you know what I mean? we rely too much on certain things. I think we lose touch with that. And a lot of these outdoorsmen, a lot of these people that are out in the wilderness a lot, I think they kind of, their senses get heightened. So I think of all the hiking we've been doing for all these years, I felt like someone was watching me during this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Like my arm hair was raised. I had the goose bumps, my neck hair, that tingling, you get that tingling sensation over your body. Like I am being stalked. Something is just watching me. It's not moving. It's not moving. And I told people how thick vegetation is. Now, a lot of people are going to say, why didn't this guy just go and walk in and see what it was?
Starting point is 01:22:33 Right. Yeah. You're going to understand something when you're out in the wilderness and you're alone and you don't have a My only weapon is a freaking six inch knife that isn't going to do much to any big animal without me having to get really close. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. If fear comes over you, it's like a blanket.
Starting point is 01:22:53 It just washes over you. I was scared from me. I'm scared for my dog. I don't want anything bad happening. But that freaking encounter that Evan tells me is in my head at that moment. Well, it must have messed you up. I was so scared, Jeremiah. I'm like, I'm leashing up the dog and I'm getting out of here, man.
Starting point is 01:23:14 It's bad. You know, with all that's happened to me, especially that night and the tent, like, I want to see it. I want to see it. But I don't want anything ruining my love of the wilderness. I don't want anything to ruin what I love to do. I love to go with my dog and I love to hike. I love to be alone out there and hike. I don't want anything bad happening.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And that that Mount Cabot encounter just sticks in my mind on every hike now when something weird goes on. I'm like, I don't want nothing happening to Chewy. I latched him up, man. Didn't do anything with the GoPro. I'm like, I am not changing the batteries. I am not doing what I did the week before and say, oh, my God, this and this just happened. You know, I don't want to be that guy that just puts out stuff but doesn't get anything. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:08 I don't want to... Right. I don't need to do that. I did it already. I don't need to be like, you know? So probably for that 10 to 15 minutes, man, I just kept turning it looking behind me as I'm walking because I just had that feeling of being watched. You know what I mean? And I know exactly where it happened, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:29 And I haven't been back there since this happens. But wanting to go back out there this year. You know, when Evan's... wants to go out there with me. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here, and one here, and one here,
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Starting point is 01:26:09 Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recesses. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Oh, a little spoiler alert. I know Alex, we're going to be planning a trip up. to Northern New Hampshire, to Coas County, home of the Wood Devil. Oh, yeah, I may have. And we're going to do what he'll do a be on the trail episode on Coas County and up there. And that's probably the last time I'll tell my encounter, you know, because I've done it. On that episode.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Yeah. That'll be my last. A lot. Because this, I told my wife today, I'm like, you know, this is probably the last live stream. I'm going to do telling my story, you know, I've told it enough. Like, it's out there. there, but I, there comes a time when, you know, I've said it enough, you know, like, it's,
Starting point is 01:27:13 it's ran its course for me. Like, I've, I finally come, because for years, man, after that tent and count, I'm like, man, I wish I could have just opened up that tent and piqued my head out. But you've got to think, like, a lot of people probably say, why did this guy just open the tent after all that happens? Like, you don't, when you hear something, you don't know what it is. And it's the middle of the night and you're with your family. I didn't want that thing coming back, man.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Like, I didn't know what it was. I didn't want to come back. But I finally come to terms with, I was so frozen in fear that night. I don't know. Like we were just talking about before with you had Martin Groves on recently. Right. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And man, I was listening to it today, actually, before this episode. And he's talking about the vocals. And word for word, it was like I was telling it. You know, like the same exact thing happened to him and his buddy. And I was like, oh, my God, like the guttural growl. Right. He heard that. Now, I don't know how loud it was for him.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I would love to talk to him sometime about that, you know, because we share that connection. and I love talking to other people that have had a similar experience to me because, man, I have talked about six or seven people that have been like, yeah, like I have felt that vocal. Some people have heard it from like, oh, it was it was far away, but it was a stream. For me, it was the depth of it. It wasn't loud. It wasn't loud. It was just a, just a breath, like a, and then into a grunt and then just going to run. And, but man, it vibrated me.
Starting point is 01:29:06 It vibrated my ears. Like, oh, my God. Like, to be able to share that with someone else who has had that is just, like, I still get a rush when I heard it. Like, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm about to talk to Jeremiah about this. You just, you just heard it the last week. That is very weird, yeah. How common it is.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Now I hear it. I'm like, oh, there's another one. There's another one that we share the same encounter. So now after all that, after going on Alex's show, after having the footsteps, after the relief of getting out of that area, because I didn't feel safe, man, until I got back to that Franconia, Lincolnbrook. It took me back onto that logging road, that Lincoln Woods, that took me to the end. and I was just a sense of relief, but it was like, oh my God, I'm like, this is such a hot zone.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Now, where we are in these ravines, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's brooks that flow from miles. To me, that's like, that's, that's a wildlife highway. Oh, absolutely. Follow the water on all these hikes I'm, I'm going into this pemmy. You're following the brooks, man. You're following these intersecting brooks all the way from miles and miles.
Starting point is 01:30:28 So to me, power lines, like Brooks streams, to me, that's like a Sasquatch Highway. You know what I mean? So after all this stuff has happened and, you know, I've told a couple of people and I've made some new friends about it. what me and Evan wanted to do because his encounter, I'll go into it real briefly. It's a quick encounter, but it's why we,
Starting point is 01:31:03 you know, friends. His happened in 2018 in November. It was Thanksgiving night, 2018. He is driving on this road in central New Hampshire. And about, I think it was
Starting point is 01:31:21 a month prior, he had lost his best friend in a car accident. Someone he grew up with, so he was very depressed, very emotional. And he said, what he would do at night, he would just go for these rides on the back roads of New Hampshire. And this was a snowy night. He's got his high beams on. A lot of these roads in New Hampshire are very windy dirt roads. So as he's coming around this bend, his lights he thought it was reflectors on a tree because he's coming up on it and he sees the big amber light of reflectors and as he's getting closer all of a sudden he sees an arm go up over its eyes he sees the hair on the on the on the arm and and he sees the snow beads on the hair
Starting point is 01:32:21 Wow. You know what I mean? And he pulls up and his high beams are shining right on this thing. He stops his vehicle. And the thing is right in front of him, 15 yards. He saw everything. I mean, he knew it was a male. That's how much he saw.
Starting point is 01:32:36 He saw everything. And this thing, when we went back to his encounter spot just this last year, it was about eight feet tall because what's cool about, he knew exactly where his encounter was is when the snow plows go by on these roads they get so close to the trees they leave divvets from the plow hit in the tree he knew exactly where the spot was because there's a big divot
Starting point is 01:33:05 so he said the creature looked at him when he stopped the high beams are on this sucker he's in a little ultima he's in this small little thing could have flipped his car right yeah don't go over and he could to flip my car over. He's like, it looked at him like with this look of disgust and let out this puff. He probably thought it was probably like, I hear that.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I hear that so many times you don't even know, Brian. I hear that same exact thing. Sorry to interrupt you, but it's like, I've heard it a solid four to five times in interviews where it's like, and it's like we heard this like this huff. Like there was a disappointment or like this regard. It's the weirdest thing that people bring up to. said it was like a parent looking at their child. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Wrong. That fascinated me. Now, he said he saw the puff because it was so cold out. He saw the breath, the puff of air come out. And he said it just turned and walked away. And he was so effed up from that. He was like, oh, my God. I'm like, I just saw a, I just saw a Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:34:14 He drove away, man. He drove away. But that, like, knowing that just the way he tells his encounter and how much it like it affects him to like he doesn't want to stay out at night like camping he can't he has to stay in like a van if he's going to stay out like it affects it affects a lot of people it affecting nates where i you know i still can't camp alone you know what i mean until this a couple weeks ago i was going to try it until chui you know i was out with alex we're going out and to do an investigation out and out to house's hot spot where we still started to go back to his, the first Beyond the Trail episode was called Granite Bigfoot. Exactly. That is Alex's, when the pandemic was going on, he was going every day to this spot because there was nothing else to do. He would go out there, shoot guns, do whatever, go out there research.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Before he even knew about the guy that was having all the encounters out there. And Alex has had some weird stuff happen out there as well with some knocks. So he's like, hey, man, he's like, you want to go, you know, let's go back out to my, to that spot. And we'll go do a couple of investigations. It was actually a night that we were all on the phone that night. Jeez, yeah, don't. That night, I don't. Listeners are going to have to just imagine, I'm going to even bring up Tate.
Starting point is 01:35:42 That's, that's, sorry, guys, you have to use your imagination of what. Yes, for all those. Anyways. From anyone that knows Tate Erotibus. Yeah, gotta love Tate. You gotta love Tate. You cannot not like him. You know, he's just a great guy.
Starting point is 01:36:00 He's a great dude. He is a funny guy. Hot tubs and PBRs. So we're on. So we're on that night. Brian, wait, I got to tell, Brian, I'm sorry. I got to tell you something. So this is how much like, this lady comes up to me at Monster Fest.
Starting point is 01:36:18 And she's like, oh, I have to tell you, like, your show is, I love it, keep doing it. This is amazing. I'm like, oh, this is great. Thank you so much. I'm getting this feedback. And then at the very end, this lady says, but what's the deal with Tate and all the PBRs?
Starting point is 01:36:35 I'm like, that's the funniest thing because like she's super like, she gets like the in joke. It somehow went through the waves and she latched onto it. I'm like, he just really likes PBRs a lot. That's all I could say. But if we're on a class, let's say we're in a class, Tate's the class clown. Yeah. In a good way. In a great way.
Starting point is 01:36:58 In a great way. Nothing but love for Tate. He knows. He's just a great guy. That's where we've gone out a few times. And just two weeks ago, he's like, hey, let me go back to our first overnight out there. We're walking the power lines. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:14 We're walking the power lines. It just rained a couple days prior. So we're looking for tracks. And we're going through the least path of resistance. Let's walk those pilots because those power lines go through the state of New Hampshire. Oh, yeah. It is a highway for wildlife. So we're seeing all these different kind of tracks.
Starting point is 01:37:34 You know, we're picking up moose tracks here, you know, anything deer tracks, everything, everything. So we come across this trackway. Three nice tracks, big, pretty big. size, man. Alex did a 3D scan of it. Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really intriguing stuff we found that night.
Starting point is 01:37:56 We can't say for sure. But the 3D scan he did on the phone, that app you have with your phone, oh, to see the impression down. And it's just, it's shaped like a, it's a, it's a, someone had a big foot. You know what I mean? Yeah. So we caught three of them. So like, oh, man, I'm like, we got to go back out here again and walk the
Starting point is 01:38:19 and stay out of the power lines overnight with the terms, you know? So, oh, that's cool. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So we just planned. It was two Thursdays ago, two weeks ago. We're like, yeah, hey, man, let's go out there, get them power lines before I leave for Alaska. I'm like, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Right. So we go out, of course, I got Chewy because Chewy is our, he is our sixth sense out there. Like, Chewy loves Alex. And we always take him. on our investigations. A dog is a great tool to have just because of how well their senses are. So five minutes into our investigation,
Starting point is 01:38:59 we're walking through the thick stuff to the power lines. And we see a couple porcupines scurry up the tree. We're filming the porcupines. Of course, Chui was the one that chased him up the tree. I have him off leash. He chased him up the tree. So I'm like, dude, I'm like, let's film this. And then I'll latch up Chooey because there's a
Starting point is 01:39:19 lot of porcupines out. For some reason this year, there are a ton of porcupines up in the northeast. Oh, weird. Yeah, a lot of them this year. A lot of roadkill just because there's so many. So I call Chewy. I'm like, hey, Chewy, all of a sudden I hear, er, like, I hear him yell. And I'm like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:39:39 I'm like, Chewy! Here comes Chewy. Quills in his nose, quills in his snout, quills in his mouth. I'm like, oh, I'm like, Chewy just got quilled. So we drove 100 miles to go for five minutes into the power lines. And Chui gets Quillad and take him to the ER. But he's, he's, you know, it was a long night. But he's fine now.
Starting point is 01:40:03 But we didn't get to walk those power lines yet. So he's like, as soon as I get back, man, from Alaska. So it still has to happen. Okay. Wow. Yeah. And that night was the first night I was going to stay out in a tent by myself. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:19 So that was the night I was going to come over my fear of going to, because he was going to stay out and do a night investigation. Him and his brother Luca were going to stay out. If I'd go home, because Alex only lives a half hour away from his hot spot. And I'm like, okay, man, I'm like, I'm going to stay out here.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I'm like, I'm ready. I'm going to try it. I got to see if I can do it. He's like, oh, what a great idea. He's like, yeah, man. He's like, anytime you want to go to my spot and stay, go ahead. But yeah, I got ruined that night by the porcup. So after 20 years, I was ready to face my fears.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Wow. And it just, you know, the porcupine didn't want me staying out that night. So he gave Chewy some quills. It's so scary when it happens to your dog. Because it's like people need to, I don't know if everyone realizes how scary that is for a dog. Because it's like the quills keep going in and they have to, at the vets, they have to pull them out. And it's really traumatic. It's got to be dramatic for the dog.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And it's expensive. It's very expensive. Totally. It was an expensive night. So, yeah. But, yeah, but, you know, going back to Evans' encounter and what happened and after him seeing it, that's a class, that doesn't get any better than that, you know, with the detail he had. And being able to go back there. And I said, well, hey, Evan, I'm like, you know what, man?
Starting point is 01:41:46 I'm like, let's go to your encounter spot. Okay? And then let's go find mine because it's been when this happened. 19 years, I haven't been back to that spot, man, in northern New Hampshire. Like, I've hiked around that area, of course, but I have never been back to that campsite. For one, I forgot the name. It took me so long to find that campsite. And I used the Google Earth to verify in pictures online of the campsites.
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Starting point is 01:43:57 They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recesses. So the plan for me.
Starting point is 01:44:13 me and Evan was, oh, we'll go to your spot. I'm going to film you telling your story. And then we can go up to my spot and you can film me telling my encounter. Okay. So we're like, hey, man, we'll go to your spot first, Evan, since it's only an hour away from where we are. Because mine was way up in northern New Hampshire and his was in central New Hampshire. It's a long ride. It was like a two, three hour ride for us to go to my spot across the state and up.
Starting point is 01:44:40 So we go to his spot. Okay. I get out of his van I got the GoPro going and I'm like oh I'm like so this is this is where it happened because you can see the divot in the tree he's like yeah man it happened right over there
Starting point is 01:44:51 as we're walking up to this we see this weird impression you know chui came within I say two inches a step in like the middle of it and I was like oh yeah man he's like I see that too he starts looking down he's like dude he's like that's a track and I'm like no way
Starting point is 01:45:10 this is five feet feet from the tree where he saw the thing four years ago. I was like not saying it's the track from four years ago, but just saying it's in the same area where you're acting. And I'm like, oh, wow. I'm like, that's interesting. Now, I'm always skeptical at first. I'm like, it was just a nice foot impression,
Starting point is 01:45:33 like you could see the impression. I was like, oh, that's interesting. I'll start looking behind it. We see three more impressions. in the leaves, but pressed way down. Oh, man. We're talking 16, 17 inches, three of them. And we're trying to step down, but we cannot get that depth.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Now, Evan's a big guy. Evan's 6'4, almost 300. He can know. Wow, yeah, that's a big guy. His foot dwarfed that foot impression. So, like, oh, that's interesting. So Evan's like, hey, he's like, let's go across the road and see if we find any more. You know, we wanted to go in the direction where the foot, where it was.
Starting point is 01:46:12 coming from. So we had the, you know, like two crappy ones that we couldn't do anything with because of the leaves. Like it scrunched the leaves down and there was just that, that foot impression. But the one on the road, we're talking a hard dirt road. It's not like no human can make that impression. You've got to be a heavy, heavy guy. So like, all right, let's walk across. I start to walk across. Now, Grant, I still have my GoPro going when we find this. Now, they're on F-bombs. I sent that one to you. I sent that to you as well, the link to you.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Right. It's great. What's great about this, you're getting our reaction while it's happening. Like, it's incredible. It was the odd, like, I'm just so used to when I get out when I start hiking, I'm going to, I just start filming. I see right across the road. I see this impression going up the embankment of this dirt embankment that goes into the woods. I beeline right to it.
Starting point is 01:47:14 And I'm like, dude, he's like, dude. I'm like, dude, we had that dude, dude, dude moment. Yeah. It's not pulling. There's a couple of leaves on it. Okay, he pulls leaves off the top of it. He's like, I see toes. And I'm like, I lost it.
Starting point is 01:47:31 I'm like, we could see the toes. That's wild. It was wild, dude. It was so wild. I'm like, now I'm not, because I am in this state of jubilation, I'm not, attention to Chewy. He is whining. You'll see it. You can see it in the video. He is yelping and whining. He doesn't do that. It's not a normal thing. He sensed something, whether he could smell whatever I don't, but his reaction was just crying and whining for so long. And I didn't
Starting point is 01:48:04 pick him on and pick up until after when I watched the footage. I was like, oh, wow, Chewy's acting weird. But we're like, we got to call Alex. We had. I haven't had like this three-pound bag of like quick mix plastic. Okay. Yep. Yep. And I'm like, dude, I'm like, that's not enough, man, if we want to get all these. So our first thing is we got to call Alex.
Starting point is 01:48:28 We got to call Alex. He'll know what to do. He'll know what to do. So we call and call and call no answer. We're like, he could be anywhere. We could be anywhere filming. He calls back like probably 20 minutes later. And we tell him what's going on.
Starting point is 01:48:43 And what's great is we have it all on film. And we're like, dude, we found a track. Like, we found a passable track way. He's like, no way. He's like, hey, listen, it's going to take me two hours to get there. When you go from where he is to the location, he's like, I want to stop by Home Depot. I'm going to get a big 50 pound bag of plaster. He's like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Two and a half hours. Dude, in that two and a half hours, okay, it was like a movie. Okay. Now, when we found these tracks, no one, no one drove by, not a person walked by, nothing. We are right. We are probably probably about two miles, three miles from the state park, Port Tuckerway State Park. Port Tuckerway State Park is now we know it's a hot zone for activity. So I'm like, you know what, Evan, I'm going to go down because where we found the first set of tracks at the bottom of the hill, there was a huge pond, like a huge.
Starting point is 01:49:43 huge, huge pond. I'm like, I'm going to see if I find any more tracks. I go down there. I find piles of turkey feathers. Really? Turkey feathers ripped. I mean, ripped in half piles here and there. Turkey.
Starting point is 01:50:03 I'm like, Evan, I'm like, this turkey fell is everywhere, man. He's like, no. I'm like, dude, I'm like, they are everywhere. I'm like, I'm still rolling. I'm still rolling with the GoPro. getting it all. And I'm like, oh yeah, man. I'm like, something killed something down here. So I'm looking around down there for tracks. I didn't, I couldn't find any more tracks because it was so much leaf down there. It was very hard to find tracks. But while I'm down there,
Starting point is 01:50:32 Evan yells, truck. I feel. No. Here comes this truck, man, backing up with a with a boat attached. going right towards the track. And like, what do you do? You're like, no, man, you can't. Dude, I run up. Evan is standing there like a dick. He isn't moving. He's like, I'm out.
Starting point is 01:50:59 So these guys are pulling up on their boat. They had to stop. They had to stop because they weren't going any further. Evan just standing there, man. I run up, man. I stand right on the side of Evan. I got chewy. Like, I got him so tight to me so he won't step on the track.
Starting point is 01:51:13 like yeah and these guys like they're probably looking at us like what of these guys do yeah they're not moving like these guys are taking the boat off the trailer it's like a little like 10 let's just a little boat they can take it to the pond and do their fishing we didn't move it was to the point where the boat almost hit me when they did it off the trailer dude I'm not moving for you buddy like like there almost comes a time like are we going to have to tell these guys guys like did you say did you say hey i got a big like you just didn't even broach it it seemed so close to say a buddy we got a potential sask watch foot right here would you mind going around you know but we didn't move we did not move until the guy we we had the guy
Starting point is 01:52:03 he's like hey when you get into the water we have our buddy on a kayak could you let him know that we're here waiting for him we wanted it was like the only thing we could think of Like Evan thought of that. Like, just, when you see our buddy in the pond, did you tell them that we're up here waiting for him? We've been here a while. Like, we were just playing dumb. You know, right?
Starting point is 01:52:21 We want to tell them. I didn't want to get that look or, like, you know, they don't want anyone else to know what we're doing. So they got out, la-di-da-da-da. It's been about an hour and a half. We're still waiting for Alex, man. And we're like, the nerves of God, like, I, the adrenaline and the nerves all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:52:43 Okay. Here comes this guy walking his dog on the other side with a toe where we got the good one on the embankment, that good trackway. Oh, man. That beautiful one with the toe impressions. Like, he's going right towards it. His dog starts barking and lunging at my dog. We are across the road. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Here comes this dude. His dog came within probably two, three inches. stepping right into the track. It was like a movie. I couldn't believe what was going on all at once. You couldn't write a better script. You know what I mean? And that guy has no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 01:53:25 He has no idea. And after that, we put a backpack near it. You know what I mean? People away from it. But finally, Alex rolls up. And of course, Alex, he was, of course, skeptical before he even saw anything. You know what I mean? All these guys, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:43 know what are the odds of these guys find in this way i haven't had his encounter and then he looks at him and he's like this is pretty crazy man he's like this is pretty and it takes a lot to get something like that out of alex no no it does it really does yeah the one big thing about alex he doesn't have big foot on the brain when he goes out there you know he's always skeptical of everything first yep but when he's not saying hey man when he starts swearing he's like this is pretty interesting man it's like this is pretty interesting And the one on the embankment, he's like, guys, he's like, I don't think I can do this. Like, I've never, I've never cast it up on an, on an, on an angle like that.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Oh, wow. Yeah. He's like, you mind if I call Cliff Barakman? That's awesome. Yeah, give me some pointers. Yeah, that's so cool. I'm like, yeah, go ahead. You can call Cliff.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Yeah. So here I am with the GoPro right next to his phone. He calls us Cliff. Cliff answers. He answers after a few rooms. He's like, oh, hey, Cliff, sorry to bother you, man. But I got a potential trackway here in New Hampshire. We're trying to, you know, cast on an embankment and just hearing Cliff's voice, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:54 because I was that guy from finding Bigfoot. I always loved Cliff and Bobo. You know what I mean? So to get the pointers from him and what to do, it was just, oh, what a great experience, man. It was just so cool to be able to cast the tracks. and that trackway was the last one we cast it out of all of them. Wow. And while Alex is casting it, he's running out of mix.
Starting point is 01:55:24 He's running out of mix. He's got about, he still has to get the toes. I'm there. I am so mad. I am glad he showed up, but I am so mad that he didn't mix enough. He starts creeping it out with his hands to get every little bit. he could man but he ended up getting the track we got the we got the toes Alex Alex has the cast he's got it nice set up in his house and a nice glass case it's just a nice
Starting point is 01:55:55 momento to everything that happens and he's like hey guys he's like would you guys want to come back up here like in a week or two and do an investigation I'm like yeah man like definitely and that led into doing a beyond the trail episode on the trackway and it was just so fun having Eli come down and uh Carrick St. Laurick came down Oh Carrick's so nice. He's a really cool guy.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yeah. And we had it you know it rains you know during it rained both days. We did our investigation but we had the night time to where it didn't rain. It got to go out and we had some stuff go on. But we're thinking it, like we heard a bloop splash, like very loud bloop splash. And it was just, you know, we come to the fact that it was probably beaver tail. It was probably beavers doing that.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Right. But what happened on that second night, it was probably 2.30 in the morning. Evan and Eli were by themselves on the power lines. And we were over by the side trail. You can go down. You can parallel each other. one on the you know we got one group there and another group here and see if we could either flush anything out or whatever and uh on the walkie-talkie they're like you guys uh Evan and Eli are
Starting point is 01:57:22 like are you guys over near the entrance because we're seeing uh a light and we're like no man we're way down we're way down man we none of us have lights on he's like they saw like a possible orb they had something funky out to where Eli they were trying to recreate it with the flashlights. We all met up after that. We're trying to recreate with it. Like, no, like that's not it, man. So something weird happened that those guys Evan and Eli saw that they can't explain it. But they're like, yeah, it was like this white light floating across and went behind the, there was this sign.
Starting point is 01:58:06 It was the sign to the entry of the trail. And they're like, and then it was gone. I was like, oh, wow, that's, that's interesting because I wasn't a big orb guy. You know what I mean? But you hear a lot of stories with people seeing orbs in the woods sometimes. So they saw something odd. They talked about it a little on the documentary, but there was nothing we could recreate. But it was just, it's just a very interesting area.
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Starting point is 02:00:02 It's said everything happens for a reason, But maybe everything happens for a Reese's. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. And, you know, like I said, where we found that trackway,
Starting point is 02:00:21 a half mile down the road was the power lines. Those power lines that run from miles. And that thing that direction, the prints at that, where it was going, you go through the woods and then a little bit, it after those woods, you come up onto the power lines. So, like, oh, wow. Like, what a great area. But man, it was such a great experience.
Starting point is 02:00:44 You know what I mean? To be able to go out with those guys and see how they do their thing. That kind of thing is really cool. I learned so much from Alex. Every time we go out, like, he's like, oh, these are where porcupines burrow. And sure enough, we go up to this spot and there's a bunch of porcupine scat. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like every time I'm with that guy, like I always learn something.
Starting point is 02:01:07 So it's, it's, it's, he is such a very down to earth, just a nice, I have never met a nicer person than how it's Petikoff. I can't like what you see on film is how he is all the time. Yeah, 100%. It's, it's the same thing. Like, people need to realize that it's, it's not a, it's not a fake thing like that is. That's him. Yeah. You get with you get with him.
Starting point is 02:01:36 He is the same all the time. Such a nice, nice guy. Yeah, what a nice, what a nice guy. But yeah, man, that was, that was, you know, that's, that's what's happened to me out there, though, with the knocks and those those footsteps. That's, that's wild. I have, there's one question I have about the initial tent situation. And I know this is, this is like 20 years ago. or more, right? It's a long time ago. But the one thing that I kept coming to mind when you were telling me that is, so you're inside the tent and you can see something running, you know, across the nylon, right?
Starting point is 02:02:21 Yes. At first I heard, I'm like, what is that? Now, you know what is seconds? Now, like I said, we were in a big tent. So it had to go across far. Because like I'm saying, three of us fit on. one half of the tent and the other half was like all our clothes all our stuff you know what i mean so i had enough time to hear it and then i picked up the impression now you see me going like like this all the time telling it right that's what i saw is so that's that's the question i had is did you see actual fingers yes i saw like goodness brine fingers how big i mean this is what got me Because like I said, at first I thought it was a person because I saw the finger impressions. It's when everything changed at the end of the tent. It didn't growl.
Starting point is 02:03:15 It didn't take the breath and growl and grunt until after the impression went across. It was about eight feet away when I felt that grunt. Eight to ten feet away from going from my right to left. And then it was my girlfriend and my son. on the outside of the tent, the direction it was going. That's what scared me. I didn't want it coming back to my sunside of the 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I laid there still. I don't know how long it was till I actually friggin moved. But my first movement was looking to my left and seeing if it woke up my girlfriend. And she sat out asleep and I was like, oh. And I waited, dude. I laid there and waited hands like this. dude, pillow over my head and I just waited to
Starting point is 02:04:06 hear if I would hear anything else because I didn't know like take Sasquatch out of the realm I didn't know what it was so I've come like I was saying before I have finally after years of fighting myself saying Brian like dude
Starting point is 02:04:24 why couldn't you open that tent I was so afraid I couldn't freaking move man I physically couldn't move after that grunt because it's something I have never heard besides if you go to the circus and you're close to a lion
Starting point is 02:04:42 and you can hear you can you know they give off like that vibration. Exactly. No lions in the north. There's no lions up there going on. Yeah. Yeah. It was the digits. That's why when I said bear at first, I'm like, no, no, no. I'm like a pooler ripped through my tent. A bear's not going to go up on its hindlikes. Miss The you have a cover on your tent and the strings come out into the ground miss those have the intelligence to miss those.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Okay. Right. Right. Wow. That's that's wild. So you could see the actual fingers. You could probably could you tell like how big the handish was or yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Yes. Because they were so fat. They were so fat like the impression. It wasn't like it was grazing gently, man. Right. Okay. It was like pressing in. Wow.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Pressed and across. I'm not going to say violently, but aggressively, very aggressive to where it scared me. I'm up on my elbows watching that sucker go across, about to get up and I'm thinking of the noises. I was going to have to make to get out of my sleeping bag with the zippers. Yeah. Then to unzip that big dome freaking pop my head out into the pitch black, man. No way. No way.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Dude, yeah, I would have been saying, I mean, I would have made the same call. Like, there's no way. Like, there's no way I would have been able to do that. Here's another thing. And I, and I've talked about this with, you know, I've heard a guy that it took him 55 years to tell us an owner. This guy is 72. Oh, goodness. Took him 55 years.
Starting point is 02:06:27 And what I share with him is that it felt like it just happened yesterday. When you said, oh, it's been 20 years, I don't know if you'll, I can remember it like it just happened. Wow. Like it's, it never leaves you. So in a way, I feel like I'm cursed, but I also feel lucky because that doesn't happen to a lot of people. But that those years of not knowing, but to be able to tell my story.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Like it just happened yesterday, man. Right. It is so fresh in my brain. It's never going to leave me. Never. Like, I will never forget that night. I will never forget it. It's something that, you know, I've shared it enough.
Starting point is 02:07:19 But, man, yeah, I, my memory is as clear as day when it comes to that night, man. Wow. And it's, it's, it's definitely, it's definitely an experience. Brian, that's in that whole that whole I mean it's a whole adventure your whole story
Starting point is 02:07:39 and thank you for sharing with yeah it's amazing man thank you for sharing and all that I would highly recommend people listeners to
Starting point is 02:07:52 subscribe to Brian's channel so that you can follow along with everything he's posting and there's some really cool stuff on there. There's going to be plenty of links in the show notes. But do you mind spending a few minutes, Brian, to share just any way that people can keep up to date with what you're doing? I post all my hikes, all my investigations. I've just posted, I think the last two months, all I've been doing is going on investigations with Alex and stuff.
Starting point is 02:08:27 but I posted them. We've gone to the Freetown State Forest. That's a whole another episode, man. I live 15 minutes from there. I'm 15 minutes from the Freetown State Forest. So I took, I've gone in there with Alex three times. We've taken a guy that wanted to, you know, because there's a lot of, it's a melting pot of everything in the Freetown State Forest.
Starting point is 02:08:53 Some weird stuff. From murders, cults, ghosts, anything you are into, Sasquatch Encounters, that's part of the Bridgewater Triangle. Absolutely. So that is a whole other episode, man. No, it really is.
Starting point is 02:09:06 I mean, that's some wild, wild stuff, dude. Wow. But what's great about that is we go to all these famous locations, and I have it all on my channel, but my channel is Bryant and Chewygo hiking. That's all it is. And I'm a small channel. I don't promote my channel.
Starting point is 02:09:21 You know, I started my channel when my dad, we know, for my dad. My dad lived in Arizona. Arizona. He was a hiker. I lived over here. I'm a hiker. I would share my videos so he could see that. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. That's awesome. That was my whole, you know, that was my whole start to this YouTube thing so I could share my stories with my dad. Little did I know, you know, other people like watching, you know, hikes and getting information on, on mountains and hikes. And that's, that's mostly what I do. But I, lately, I have been putting the investigations in there.
Starting point is 02:09:54 It's pretty cool. I enjoy doing it and I enjoy sharing where these locations are just so people can see what we're talking about. That's the most important thing to me. I want these people to go on Google Earth after this episode. Look up where I've been talking about and you're going to be like, oh, wow, that's a forest. And there's no cars going in there. There's no roads. So that's where these suck to me, my opinion.
Starting point is 02:10:22 in these deep areas in the whites, these are where these things are hiding, is where people don't go. Because like we were saying, you go off trail a little bit and you lose your way. Nine times out of ten, you're not going to find your way out.
Starting point is 02:10:38 Oh, no. You're not, dude. So, yeah, that's, in my opinion, that's where these suckers are is where people aren't going to go much. And that's where I want to try and go, but I'm not going alone. So hopefully next beyond the trail at the end of the summer,
Starting point is 02:10:57 you guys will see us going up to Northern New Hampshire. Oh, yeah. I can't wait for that one because we used to go up to Colbrook and Pittsburgh and all that good stuff. Northern New Hampshire is beautiful, but I can't wait to see what you guys find up there. Like the Dixville Notch area. Oh, yeah, totally.
Starting point is 02:11:16 You'll see a moose. We saw seven moose on one of our, me and Evan went on excursion to do an event. investigation way. No doubt. I got a quick story if we got time. We got a little bit of time. So I got,
Starting point is 02:11:30 how about this? Let's finish, let's finish the episode and then I can tell you. I've got Moose stories. Great. And you've got Moose stories. And we'll do like a Patreon moose. Let's do that.
Starting point is 02:11:44 Because I have a great story. If you have the time. So I have, I have a time. Let's close it out real. Okay. So Brian, Thank you for chilling out.
Starting point is 02:11:53 Can I think? I'm sorry to interrupt you. Go, go, go. I just want to thank you, okay? Because people like me that have had a hard time talking about it to just the average Joe. What you do with this platform, I, like, it's so much appreciated. Thank you. People that have had encounters and are afraid to talk.
Starting point is 02:12:21 about it or just are afraid to step forward. This platform is a great platform to let people like us tell what's happened and not get that look. Not get that look like, oh, look at like, like, uh, look at like, uh, this guy's a nut. You know what I mean? Like, you've heard enough of it. The listeners have heard enough that they know that, you know, I'm not, I'm just telling what's happened to me on my hikes.
Starting point is 02:12:49 and the areas I have gone to that are that are hot zones. So for me, bringing awareness to the Northeast because you don't hear a lot about the Northeast much. Oh, you don't. People don't really chat about it. So I super appreciate it because that is the main focus of my channel now is to give people a platform to share their encounters where they haven't been able to share
Starting point is 02:13:16 because they've been maybe afraid or not empowered. And so then other people hear that and then they are able to connect dots in their heads or in their head or have the courage then to come forward. But can you speak to the listener for a moment? Like imagine you're speaking to a person that has had something happen. They haven't come forward yet. And why is it a good idea to, you know, contact someone like me and just what does that do to you as a person? You know why? For me, and I'm sure for some other people, some people hold on to this for a long time.
Starting point is 02:13:54 And like I said, it is a heavy weight to carry on your shoulders. If you don't know what's going on and you're looking for answers and you come to a platform like this and you're hearing similar stuff, the best thing for me was telling my story of what's happened. because that weight came off of me. And to get that positive feedback, and I'm calling it like a family, you get to like you can trust people that you're telling your story to on this platform. It's just I highly recommend anyone that has had an encounter
Starting point is 02:14:36 and is having a hard time telling anyone, this is one of the safe places to tell it. And then you will feel much better getting that off your shoulders because for me, I had it for 18 years. Wow. Carried that to myself. And I am so glad I did because I don't know where I'd be if I didn't. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:15:02 And I feel so much better hearing similar encounters and just you get that validation when you hear something similar. And you're like, yeah, I wasn't imagining that. Like, it happens to other people. So, yeah, the best thing to do is to share your story in a safe platform. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI-native ERP solution that consolidates, migrates, and automates, all in one place.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Learn more at intuitt.com slash ERP. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for indeed sponsored jobs. You'll get matched with candidates that meet the skills, certifications, and everything else. else you're looking for. Or go a different way and get no traction. Seriously, sponsored jobs posted
Starting point is 02:16:19 directly on Indeed are 95% more likely to report a hire than non-sponsored jobs. It really is a no-brainer. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs. And listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit to help your job get the premium status it deserves at Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply.
Starting point is 02:16:53 Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a reason.
Starting point is 02:17:11 You know, much of average. Exactly. Thank you, Brian. And if you want to contact me directly, listeners, you can send me an email, Bigfoot Society at gmail.com is the easiest way to do that. But Brian, thank you so much for hanging out. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.
Starting point is 02:17:39 Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, Thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed. Share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com or pass on my email. Here's the list. All right, I'm going to use this space this week to announce that I'll be at the Sasquatch Summerfest in Oak Ridge, Oregon as Netender. I won't be presenting or anything, but I'll be hanging out trying to interview people that have had Bigfoot encounters. If you're from the Oak Ridge, Oregon area or surrounding and you've had a Bigfoot experience, please contact me directly, Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Also, Priscilla was nice enough that if you get your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest.com
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Starting point is 02:20:39 Her and I can get on here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening who's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks? I know what I saw. I know what's out there.
Starting point is 02:20:55 That's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know if you ever see one of these things. You need to tell. Because if you don't, then shame on you. You know, shame on you. There's more. Monster Fest 2 is coming up soon.
Starting point is 02:22:16 And beautiful Canton, Ohio, and I will be there doing a live podcast. If you've ever wanted to meet Bigfoot Society in person, this is the year to do it. My special guest in the live podcast. episode will be Justin from Cryptids of the Corn. You will not want to miss this live episode. And then you can hang out with me at Monster Fest. You can go to smalltown monsters.com to get your tickets. Pre-sale tickets are $20.50 and tickets at the door will be $25. But kids 12 and under are free. How many places can you go to where kids 12 and under are free?
Starting point is 02:22:58 Not many. New this year are the live workshops. I'm excited about this. Extremely excited. How to cast a footprint. How to collect DNA in the woods. Ghost hunting tools 101. How to do research.
Starting point is 02:23:15 Also, there's going to be food trucks outside this year. And new guests, new speakers, people you won't. I mean, the coolest thing about last year is that I got to meet people I was not expecting to be there people like less odell john hickenbottom uh really cool big put people that i never would have thought that i would have met before and uh seth breedlove made it happen by making this incredible place for the community to get together monster fest in canton ohio june 28th through 29th guys do not miss this year if you missed last year don't miss this year head on over right now to smalltown monsters.com.
Starting point is 02:24:02 I hope to see you there. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here, and one here, and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI Native ERP solution
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Starting point is 02:25:38 It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. If data management is slowing down your business. You need the Intuit ERP.
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Starting point is 02:27:13 At Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed. It's said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a rees. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show.
Starting point is 02:27:39 Everything happens for a reesis. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI-native ERP solution that consolidates, migrates, and automates, all in one place. Learn more at intuitt.com slash ERP. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos.
Starting point is 02:28:22 Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. You'll get matched with candidates that meet the skills, certifications, and everything else you're looking for. Or go a different way and get no traction. Seriously, sponsored directly on Indeed are 95% more likely to report a hire than non-sponsored jobs. It really is a no-brainer. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs.
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