Bigfoot Society - MYSTERIOUS FOREST VOICES STALK WITNESS IN BRADFORD, PENNSYLVANIA

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

Bud grew up in the forests surrounding Bradford, Pennsylvania, where one summer afternoon an earth-shaking scream echoed through a valley and left a lasting impression. Years later, while repeatedly crossing a mountain to visit his girlfriend, he began hearing strange vocalizations that sounded like conversations hidden deep in the woods.As an adult living near Elijah Clark State Park in Georgia, Bud discovered a series of massive footprints near a secluded cove. The tracks were unlike anything he had encountered before, and the reaction from a wildlife officer only deepened the mystery.In this episode, Bud shares decades of experiences spanning Pennsylvania and Georgia, including unexplained screams, possible Sasquatch vocalizations, pine cone throwing incidents, large footprints, nighttime activity around his property, and unusual tree structures found in remote areas.Locations discussed include Bradford, Pennsylvania, the Allegheny National Forest region, Kinzua Viaduct, Elijah Clark State Park, Clark Hill Lake, Lincolnton, Georgia, and North Georgia.If you've ever wondered how a lifetime of seemingly unrelated events can point toward something hidden in the forests, this conversation is one you'll want to hear from beginning to end.📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here:https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the Caring Bridge link in the show notes.

Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking to Bud today. Bud is a, well, you know, we were talking about that right before the show. And Bud is a, even though he has never had a sighting, he is a Bigfoot, believer from down there in North Georgia because he's had some really interesting things happen and we're going to get into that later on but welcome to the show bud how are you doing today sir

thank you sir it's a pleasure and a honor to be on your show you're obviously one of the best and your work proves it well i appreciate the kind words and and if you want to see a great background of course this is for for everyone over on maybe apple podcast or Spotify There is a version of this over on YouTube, and you can, Bud's got a Sasquatch sign and maybe a little, little stuff from, it looks like the Steelers there. Is that the, yeah, yeah, oh, in the West Virginia Bigfoot shirt. So make sure you head over to YouTube and follow us over there. So throw us to subscribe. We just passed 90K and we're coming up, coming out quick on 100K.

So, you know, Bud, is there anything else that the listeners would want to know about you before we get going? I don't think so, just born and raised in northwest Pennsylvania, four hours north of Pittsburgh, two hours east of Erie, Allegheny National Forest. That was our playground. And after college, I moved down to Georgia. I did live over in South Carolina. Across the river, I lived near Augusta. And then Lincoln, Georgia then moved out to where I'm at now in North Georgia, probably like about 10 years ago. Okay.

So, but very interested in these Bigfoot because of things that I experience. And the thing about it, which I'm going to, you know, go into is I didn't really think about it when I was actually experiencing it because I didn't really know what I was experiencing until later. Then I figured out, okay, wow, that's kind of spooky. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that is intriguing to me, bud. So, you know, let's get right into it.

Feel free to take us back to when maybe your first experience that you realized later in life that there is something happening at that point of your life. And I know we've got a few pictures along the way. So even a better reason for individuals to check out the YouTube version this time. Okay. So mine basically started when I was about 14, 15 years old. you know, living and growing up in Bradford. And I was with, I believe one of my brothers and a friend. My father was with us, but he was in a house of one of his friend's house,

and we just happened to drive out there with him. And it was in kind of like the proximity of one of the pictures I have, which is called the Dorn Estate. It's a very nice place that we have on the outskirts of Bradford. These people obviously have a lot of money, and there's a lot of wildlife and things out there. It wasn't actually within their area, but it wasn't too far from it as the crow flies.

And we were basically just standing outside on the road waiting for my father to get done, you know, talking to whoever he was talking to or, you know, whatever business he was doing. And it was probably, I'd say, 12.31 o'clock in the afternoon. A nice summer day, you know, up in Pennsylvania. And all of a sudden, I heard one of their yells or screams or, you know, whatever they're actually calling it. And it was one of those guttural, you know, r-hr.

I mean, it's just, I never, I mean, I've been out in my whole life up in Pennsylvania. and I know pretty much every sound there is. You know, it wasn't a train, you know, it wasn't a moose, it wasn't an elk, it wasn't, you know, something like that. And it literally felt like the ground was shaking. And I wish I could have recorded it. Obviously, I couldn't, but I didn't think I had a phone back then. But it just echoed down this valley. And, you know, we sat there, stood there, I should say, for, for people.

probably like 15 minutes, just looking at each other, like, what was that? You know? Of course, at that age, you're not really thinking about really looking into it any more than just trying to think, hey, what could have made that noise? But I knew at that moment that whatever made it, it was nothing I'd ever heard before. And whatever made that had to have the lung capacity of just something that was enormous. I mean, it was just, I can't even explain it. And it was just that awesome, really. So, of course, at that age, 50 minutes later, you know, our conclusion was, hey, that was pretty cool,

you know, go on with life, right? So, you know, I played nine different sports growing up, so I was in pretty good shape, you know, I was kind of like a Marine, you know. So, and behind my house, if you look at the picture that we're looking at right now, if you go to the right-hand side of it and go straight up, you can see that mountain right there. I had a girlfriend that lived on the other side of that mountain a couple years later. And I didn't have a car. I couldn't go visit her. So, you know, I was in pretty good shape. So I figured, well, why don't I just walk right over the mountain?

I can't walk in it would take me forever and go over the mountain. I figured, well, maybe an hour and a half. Yeah, right there. And I lived on a street called Summer Street. And right toward the bottom of Summer Street, there's a curve. So anybody who knows this area, which probably some of the people see that will know,

if you go straight up in the woods, we had oil leases and things up there. So we had little side roads and things. But when the summer was in, I mean, it was pretty thick, really thick. And on the top of that hill, I would go up to the top, find a way to the top, and then have to kind of traverse to the right and then figure out a way where I needed to go down the other side. Of course, after a while I did figure it out,

but there were some guidelines up in the top of the hill. Like, I believe there was an old homestead up there because you could see like a little pasture and a fence and things like that. And I kind of used that, you know, as a guy. Well, what happened was, and I probably, I don't know how many times I went up over that mountain because, you know, when you're, you know, you got a girlfriend, you want to see them, right? So, but there were times when I would hear people talking, right? And it wasn't like normal people talking. And people I've spoken to have actually told me, he said, you know, you're probably one of the few people in the world that have heard these things talk so many times. And, you know, back then, I was fearless. I mean, I was like a Marine.

So I'd be and it was always within the same I would say half a mile area Always in that area never in the winter time you know always in the summer and I would hear like Oh oh you know pop pop you know and all that and I would be like what is that you know I've been chased by bears I've sat on rattlesnakes I've you know it's like you know I was fearless back then And I looked. I tried to figure out who is that. Who's making that noise? What is that? And I would look. You know, of course, I never saw anything. You know, I would hear like heavy footsteps and things and think, okay, that was a big deer, you know. But because my focus was I want to just go see my girlfriend. So I was thinking about it, but not thinking about it, right?

after it happened about nine or ten times I was still really thinking about it but I you know when who am I going to tell right hey I heard these noises this is what they sound like what was that right and of course I had no proof of I've seen anything so eventually obviously I graduated I I moved south and this is is when I started to put everything together. I lived on a street called Bermuda Avenue, and it was in Lincoln, Georgia, and it was by the lake. Well, it was Clark Hill Lake. They turned it into Thurman, Lake and Damman Lake. And I was about a mile from a state park called Elijah Clark State Park. And I had a lake house out there. It wasn't a fancy lake house.

In fact, I didn't even have central heat and air, but I got up so early in the morning and left so late, got home so late at night that I really needed. I just had a fan or ceiling fan, a couple of air, you know, window units. And this is where it started. I was at the state park, and we used to have a banjo pull out there every couple of years, or every year, really, until they stopped it. And there are times when I would get a cabin at the lake or at the state park because, you know, the South gets hot, right? And I was out of town a lot. So even on the weekends, I would be in a hotel somewhere, you know, paid by my company or whatever. But there were times I would rent a cabin because I like to go fishing and obviously we had a lot of that.

And if you click on the next screen, let's see, I can show you. Oh, this here, by the way, I'm sorry, I meant to mention this. This is the area that I would walk up over the mountain and then go down to the other side. And down there to the top screen is where I would actually go to. So that was the area where I saw or heard, I should say, you know, all these encounters. Gotcha. So this is back in Bradford. Okay.

Yeah, that's back in Bradford. I'm going to show that. So this next screen is, let's see, go to the next one below that. Okay. This is an area of where I was living. You see where it says that 1105 Bermuda Avenue. It was right in that area right there. And you can see it's not that far from.

the state park, probably about a mile. So the next screen, if you pull that up, the cabins at a, like to Clark, some of them are in like little coves. So I was in the cabin in this cove to the left where that circle is. And I was fishing. I don't do good at fishing.

No patience and don't catch a lot. But there was a log on the, the other side of the cove. I'm thinking, okay, if I can get over to that log, there's got to be a fish over there for crying out loud, you know, it literally took me 30 minutes to go probably 50 yards. Because the thick, it was, it was so thick around that, you know, around that cove. When I got over there, you can see how the road, where the tip of the road is, where that tip is, where that cove is, there was a little clearing that kind of went up toward the direction of the road. Back then, some of the buildings that you see out by the road were not there yet. So I think

this is more of a recent picture from the time, you know, when this happened. So there was like a little clearing. And, you know, I guess I could compare it to see some people live out in the country and they would have a path. They would use their mower to cut to go down to a creek or pond or something like that. But this, it wasn't very big. It just, and it wasn't a manicured, you know, thing. And I just happened to look down and I see these huge footprint. They were probably, if I had to say, if you look down on it, maybe four or five feet apart,

and I was like, golly, what, you know, what could have made that, right? First of all, there was other two little imprints in between the two. So, of course, I took a picture of it, right? They were probably 16, 17 foot long. You could see, you know, what they say, the dermal ridges, and you could see clearly, you know, the footprints. And I just kept thinking, okay, what could have made that? My first thought was, okay, I know people have special shoes.

They were on boats, you know, they could, the only way they could have made it from a boat was step off backwards. You can't even get a boat in there. There's no way they could have even done that. There definitely weren't fake footprints, right? So I took a picture of them, and probably about a month or two later, I was at the state park for this banjo pole. And I was showing him to a gentleman I had just met.

I didn't know him wasn't a friend or anything, just a stranger. You know, you get to talking to people. And one of the DNR Wild Life Officers came by and I said, hey, have you ever seen anything like this? And he grabbed the picture. He looked at it. He looked at me.

He said, where'd you get these? Do you have any more? He took them out of my hand and just walked away. No way. And said nothing. Oh, man. It was that moment that I thought, well, okay. And I was talking to the other gentleman and I said, well, that was kind of odd.

No, wasn't it, right? That's when I started looking into and I found a couple of yells, one from Ohio and one from Washington State. And I was like, holy crap, that's exactly what I heard. But maybe even a little bit more guttural than that, you know. I started doing some research, you know, and kind of putting everything together. And then I started remembering things that had happened before. You know, when I was in Bradford, I remember one time, I lived at another house. It was on High Street.

We had a brick company right down the street. And we would play up on the hill a lot. And my brothers and I were up there one time, just messing around. And I didn't know if they were hiding from me or what, but I couldn't find him. And I was looking for him. And I started getting pine cones thrown at me. So obviously I assume that's my brother, right? Where are you at? The only thing was I would have found them if they were throwing pine. I mean, I played baseball, softball. I can see a pine cone coming and know it had to come from that direction. It had to be, you know, right over in there. There's no way they could have hid from me throwing stuff at me, right? So, but I couldn't find them. So I looked for them for probably like 45 minutes. Probably had like eight or nine pine cones thrown at me. So finally I was like, you know what? You guys. keep it up, I'm leaving, right? When I got home, probably like 20 minutes later, I said,

did my brothers get home yet, you know, to my mother? And they're like, oh, they've been gone for like 45 minutes. They went with your dad somewhere. So I'm like, well, I know a bear can't throw, you know, at that time I didn't think much of it. I'm like, okay, whatever, you know. But looking back, you know, after I found these footprints and after I started looking into things, there was no person up there. A bear can't throw pine cones at people, right? But again, I didn't see anything, couldn't find anything, didn't hear anything. So getting back to Georgia, I had purchased a street light that you can put in your yard.

You could rent it from like Georgia Power for like $9 a month. because where I lived and out there was very dark. One night I was out there and the cicadas are so loud down there. It's like it'll give you a headache. And I was out there about 10.30 one night. I would go out there and just stand by my car and, you know, just listen to the woods and stuff. And all of a sudden, it was just total silence. Like everything stopped.

And I'm like, okay, well, I. That was kind of weird. What was that, right? I heard some, I don't know if you say, they weren't normal footsteps, you know? And at the time, I was like, big deer. You know, my always, my excuse was always, well, that's a really big deer.

But that happened several times. Also, I would sleep, I had an upstairs loft, I would sleep with my, you know, the window open. And I would hear things. tromping through the woods at 2.30 in the morning, trees falling over. I can't explain what that was, but, and I can't say that those were big puts or Sasquatch, but they certainly were not normal, you know. Of course, always in the summertime, you know, fall. But when that park ranger saw those pictures and did that, like I said, that kind of, that kind of put two and two together that,

look, there's something going on here. And after doing all the investigation and looking them up and, you know, things that have happened and then starting to talk to other people, I don't know what else that could tell me they don't exist. And the one thing that sticks with me that I just don't understand why a lot of researchers even talk about are the gauge impressions. I mean, they've had gauge impressions that out in the middle of nowhere, 100 miles out in the middle of nowhere, that would show that whatever made those footprints, which clearly by the area they were in, you could clearly see there was no human intervention, right? But whatever made those had to be, you know, 7 to 9 feet tall, weight, 8 to 1,200 pounds, and have over a 5 foot stride.

then when you look at the tens of thousands of eyewitnesses account, are you going to tell me that every single one of those all over the world are lying? Right? It's impossible, right? So for me, it's not like, you know, I've got to show you that they, show me they don't exist. You know, I don't have to show you they exist, but show me they don't. And I mean, when I look at everything that happened to me, especially when I, you know, hearing them talks so many times, sometimes I think in my mind I kind of chuckle, you know,

I can imagine what they were thinking when I was walking by like, oh, here's that stupid kid again. Going over the mountain, I think we should probably protect him, you know, because there was a time I was up there and I ended up, I got lost and I was actually between a mother and a cub, you know. So I was like that. mother and a cub there right yeah yeah yeah um thinking this is good but you know i was always had the ability to stay calm and just you know not panic and okay nice bear whatever but i'll tell you what and

i think i'm not the only one and maybe a few will probably admit this when we get older and like i don't even go out in the woods anymore you know i don't even do it and i've got plenty of places to do it Of course, I'm not in very good shape, so that's another reason. And I think that has part to do with what I'm going to say. I think when we get older and we start realizing that, you know, these things really do exist. And we look at all the people that just go missing for no reason. I'm not saying that it's Sasquatch is doing it.

I think there's other things in the world that maybe governments have created or whatever, like dogmen, you know? But when you think about it, it's not a pleasant thought to think, you know, you could just be out there trying to enjoy yourself, and then you're not. We just had a guy what recently, I'd say, I don't know, Blood Mountain in Georgia. Oh, I've heard of that place. He was an avon hiker. They even saw him walking.

down where did he go i mean that's not the first time that people have gone missing there i honestly don't think that people realize um which is why i like to look at david pilati stuff how many people actually go missing in our country out in the woods even hunters you know just people that are honestly i mean i think honestly so the bottom line is i think they exist i think there's good ones and bad ones you know i think the bad ones you know i think the bad ones could be killing people. I wish I could find this. I saw a story out of Mississippi one time where they found a guy who was stuffed behind the seat of his pickup truck. And it was one of those old trucks where there ain't a lot of room behind the sea. And he was bent over. But he was

bent over backwards. I don't know anything that could do that to a person, you know. I think there's other things out there. And I think, The government knows about it, right? But I 100% everything that I've experienced when I look back to things I've seen. There's no doubt in my mind that these things exist. No doubt at all. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. You know, when you start putting yourself out there and actually going out in the woods

and, you know, experiencing things like you're seeing tracks or, you're hearing what sounds like, you know, talking like you've heard or like I've heard roars and screams and things out in Oregon. And, you know, even though the two of us, like, we haven't had a visual, there is still something out there that is, it's unexplained. And the only logical explanation is that, you know, Bigfoot is real out there. It's absolutely wild. And especially when you look at the circumstances of where Bradford, Pennsylvania is, it's right outside the Allegheny. We're in the Allegheny National Fourth region.

Gotcha. Yeah, we're in that area right there. So, you know, growing up and then, I don't know, maybe you looked back into this area after you'd grown up into adulthood. Did you start to track down any stories from that area? I know I've heard so many things from that forest over the years, Bigfoot-related things that happen to people. It is just, it's really, really intense. Yeah, we had a gentleman that started a group up in our hometown.

And, you know, when I saw that, I mentioned what happened to me. And there was a lot of people I remember back then that commented on that about things that they have had, you know, happened in that. there. And I know we've had many sightings up in that area. Pennsylvania has a lot of sightings. I mean, I also have relatives down in, in near Pittsburgh, well, Connysville, Scottsdale, Mount Pleasant, kind of near the ridge that they talk about and Indiana PA and places like that. And, you know, there's just so much woods down there or well in the whole state. I mean, I, I

I just don't see how they cannot exist. I just, you know, it's hard for anybody to show me what I've experiences. There's just no way that they don't. But I did have some experiences up in, back up in Bradford at our, we have a bridge called the Kensley Viaduct. And it was the eighth wonder of the world before a tornado hit it and took half of it down. But I was out there visiting and

I saw so many stick structures. It was unreal. And I never noticed those before, you know, growing up. They were probably all there. But the way they were made is like, what human could make that? Without having a machine or something, which clearly there's no evidence of that being used. how can they I mean how do you explain that it's it's amazing absolutely so when you because I know in different parts of the country

there's different types of stick structures that I've seen how would you explain the type of things that you were seeing around this area of Pennsylvania the ones I saw I think we're more directional versus for them to actually be

you know, staying in there or maybe having their young staying there. I think they were more of the X's and the tree balancing like it was in the circus, you know, like somebody on a high wire, but yet it was in there good, you know, how they got it there. I have no idea. Things like that were more of the ones I, you know, that I saw. when I started thinking about it and looking, actually, versus just kind of walking by him and not thinking anything about it. But yeah, I saw several. Actually, we have a lot of those up in Georgia, too.

Oh, yeah. In fact, we stayed at a place last year in North Georgia, and it's kind of like a, you know, people get married there, but yet they have cottages and stuff, and they're all out in the woods. And I don't even know. I'm assuming that people know about it, but they're. one place where there's this huge X. I mean, it's got to be 70 feet tall. Like, and I'm like, you know, who made that? Like, how do they even do that? Or, you know, take a tree and shove it five feet into the ground upside down. Right. I did see one of those one time thinking that was strong person but a person could have done that you know it's north georgia has some weird stuff

when you look into it and i mean probably one of the weirdest stories i've heard on the show is from north's georgia and i know there's an exhibit about it over in the expedition bigfoot museum it's uh dalanaga georgia dalanaga georgia thank you and you have the uh uh military helicopter that that crashed yeah and the story goes is that the guys were in the helicopter is crashed and all of a sudden these like big hairy figures came out of nowhere and trying to get in the helicopter to them and I think they were they were able to get them out of there because they started firing at them from their weapons but he's just such such a wild account That reminds me if I think it was on your channel several years ago of a gentleman, I want to say he might have been in Virginia and he shot one.

And I guess maybe the one he shot was a female and that the male just grabbed it and scaled a wall that was like 30 feet high like it was nothing. I don't know if that was on. I want to say that was one of your stories. a long time ago I can't remember now but just what they can do is just amazing

it is some wild stuff I mean man I've gotten one person reached out to me about an area in Iowa they were in a state park and they had seen something that looked like an extremely large orangutan

scaling the side of of a rock wall. In some parts of Iowa, we do actually have substantial rock walls and cliff faces in the state parks. You wouldn't think it, but we do. And they saw what looked like an extremely large orangutan just going across a rock wall, which is weird. I mean, there's some weird, weird stuff out there. But you've had these experiences. You've looked into stuff. Do you have any idea of what Bigfoot is or any leanings, certain ways, the years that you've looked into this. I just think that they've been here for a long time. I think they've been here for a long time. You know, I think they evolved over time. I don't know a lot about that particular subset.

that, but I think they, I do believe they came across the straight, you know, and that's how they got here. And, you know, I don't see, I don't want to see one, because I probably have a heart attack, you know. If I was younger in shape and my mind was like a Marine, I'd be like, yeah, let me see it. long as it's way down there you know but I mean if I saw it from a distance a big distance that would be one thing but just to come up on one it'd probably scam me to death but I I think they're they to say they're part human or whatever I mean they're pretty smart they're not they plan things they can hide from you. I don't know about the paranormal stuff. I mean, I believe in UFOs, you know.

And there's things that in science that, you know, you look at that and say, well, there's no way that could happen, but I'll say, I don't know. I don't know if they can go from. I look at the story from up in Erie, Pennsylvania, at the lake where the four of the couples were out there and they saw one just kind of come down from a ship, you know, or whatever. Yep. And I mean, I think we know UFOs are real. Or we're past that point for sure. You know, that is like the government's telling us pretty much.

But I just, I mean, I mean, just look at their faces, some of them. I mean, they, it looks human, you know. I know in Russia, didn't they have one in captivity that actually mingled with the, The people in the, like the 30s or 40s? That's the story. Yeah, that's the story. If you look into old, the first rendition of Monster Quest, Doug Higach put out, there's a really interesting,

there's at least one interesting episode about the, what the Russians were doing, trying to create some type of hybrid soldier, I believe. I might have that wrong, but I think I've got it right. And you know, you guys can check that out. It might be on YouTube, but it is a wild. It's a wild episode. And then there is, there's also the other story.

And man, what is maybe someone can put in the comments? I think it begins with a Z, a Z or V, the name of the female individual. Female, right. Yeah. I think that's a interesting story. Yeah. And I, yeah. I had heard, and I don't, like I said, I don't know, that the dogmen are connected to the government somehow.

And somebody would tell me one time that if China ever attacked us that they could assemble those within like 20 minutes or something, I don't know. I'm sorry. Can you imagine? It would be the worst. We've had sightings of those up here, like not too far from my house. Oh, in the area I live in is called Canton, and then we've got LJ, Oh, yeah. Master LJ, and then Blue Ridge, you know, where the museum is.

Yeah. And I guess they've seen them in cemeteries and things like that. I mean, if those are real, I don't know what to say. I probably won't go outside my house a little. I mean, there was, dude, there was, I was just in Tennessee in middle Tennessee at a park with a guy

and we were like it's a really active area dude we were in this cemetery and he's like you should do a big foot call I was like all right so when I do that I do it just a I just imitate Bobo's how well

like I just rip off Bobo pretty much is what I do and um i know joke like we have it on we i have it on film i just haven't put it out yet where i do the call and then seconds later there is one that responds we do it i do it again and then there's multiple responses of the same type of call and i was able to check with certain individuals was there an expedition in this area that same time there was not and i mean dude they were they were shooting back or they were howling back within like half a second a second much quicker than like if you're a human you're like oh i'm going to try to like replicate that and do it back

it's going to take you more than a few seconds to do it usually like you have to be get prepared uh it was wild so weird weird stuff down there I've never run into dog man stuff. I hope that I never do. That's the goal. Never to do it. But, I mean, you keep putting yourself out there and you can run into weird stuff. But you are also in this book, correct?

Sharon Eby's book. Yes. She reached out to me. I guess she saw my story or whatever. And I got to talking to her. She's done several books. This particular book, it's a thick. book. It's got

my story's probably not the best one in there because the way it was written, there's some things that were left out because, you know, they don't have a lot of room and stuff in somebody's book. But there are a lot of good information in that book right there. And I think she just did another one.

But yeah, I think she's up in Nova Scotia. It's a massive book. I think she's re-publishing them. That book split apart into other books so it's more readable she just let me actually let me know that about a week and a half ago when i told her i was going to be on your show but um if if people want to read more about the the story i share that's the guy hiking in the woods near oakridge oregon and there's

the woods change into jungle and it's like he walks into a portal and then this hairy arm with Claude Fingers comes out of the portal and almost grabs his neck and says, Gotcha. Sharon is the one that documented that story and it's in that book. So if you want to read more about it, that story was documented during a BFRO expedition somewhere in the American Southwest a few years back. I'll go look at that. It's a good book.

Do you know Leanne Carnegie from up in Ontario? I don't think so. You should get her on your show. She's done a lot of videos about stick structures and things up in the Ontario area, which I believe is a hotspot up there. Yeah, yep. Yeah, when I started this, I had a few people that said, dude, you're going to run out of people to talk to about Bigfoot.

I was like, you know what, I have a feeling that I'm not going to, and it'll probably outlast me. So, and once you know, Do you think that Eastern Tennessee, Western North Carolina is a very big hot spot? Oh, I'd say 100%, dude. I was actually, I've never been to North Carolina. I've been to Eastern Tennessee just recently as part of the same trip. And see, what did we have over there?

Oh yeah, we were in this, we're in Harley Owens research area and me and Robbie Farrell were out there and we were in the middle of these mountain laurels dude and we were finding tracks that were, I mean, they were like 15, 16 inches across, a few feet between them. Stick structures like I've never seen like huge, huge pieces of logs that were broken off. and then placed way, way up in the, maybe I'll put some pitchers in of that. That might be good. Wow. It's incredible. And then the crazy thing,

because a few months before, Harley and Robbie had been chased out of this area by Bigfoot, and it was pretty intense. So he took me back to the area. It was a spring where they usually find tracks. We're checking it out. And then all of a sudden, I hear something up in the laurel up on,

the hill and I wouldn't say like people will say you know it came rushing towards me like it was a big Mack truck you know they'll say that it wasn't that but it was something that was rather large and it was coming towards us not to invite us in for a cup of tea it was more like a like hey it's probably time to get out of here so I don't know if it was a big foot or a bear we didn't stick around. Either way, we're not going to stick around to see if it's a big foot or bear and it's rushing towards us. But that was, I would say

Eastern Tennessee has some weird stuff going on. I mean, Harley's told me about moth man stuff over there and dog man and whole weird. That area is weird as all get out. Why do you think that researchers don't use gauge impressions as much?

Because what I'm worried about right now is with AI, every video you look at, how do you even know? Before you could probably get a good idea. But with AI, it's like you couldn't believe any video you look at. So I just don't understand why they don't use the gauge impressions. You know, I see these where they have these big get-togethers and stuff.

But it seems like they never even bring it up. But yet to me, if you want science, that's science. So how would you, how would, let's say, how would it, everyday Bigfoot researcher start to incorporate something like that into their... Well, I would say, and like I said, I don't know what that equipment costs, so it's probably not something you can just run out and get, you know, you know, maybe they could collaborate together and share it. Who knows? I don't know.

I would say, like, for your example, if you're out somewhere and you find huge footprints, you know, 16, 18 feet, depending on you like my brother had a degree in agronomy so it's a study of the soils you know so it's like i think we should start if we can building up some kind of database with um these gauge impressions in different types of soils around the country different places because you can determine like okay like the one i saw like i wish i could find that it was so many years ago where they said okay It would have to be five-foot stride, which that's not too hard to prove now because you can see it in the footprint. But it would have to be at least this amount of weight to make that kind of an impression in that type of soil. You know, I think if they could do that and study that and build up a database of that, that would be good information.

You know, maybe in this area, there are being. bigger. Maybe in this area they're not. Maybe they're, you know what I mean? It's like a whole... No, that's a good idea. I think, I don't know if this is similar to what you're saying, but I know a lot of people are more starting to use the newer, newer iPhones and Androids, you can get these apps where you do a 3D scan. And man, like Scaniverse is a good one. Once you get a 3D scan of a footprint, you can see a lot more data than if you're just looking at it straight with your eyes.

You get that 3D scan. And, man, you can see exactly how far down the toes are going. And it is just, it's worth people to check that out. I think scan averse doesn't cost anything as of this time. But it is, it's worth, you can even scan environments. Like if you're in a certain environment, you get a 3D scan of a stick structure, you know. And that's totally invaluable. And quantum, I think quantum,

AI, actually, you know, not to alarm people, but and not to get political, but quantum AI, whoever controls that, controls everything. It's going to help so many people. Fortunately, we have to control it or else China will. But I think with that kind of stuff coming up, those will be a lot more tools that people will be able to use. But I am worried, like I said, if we don't, with AI and everything, showing current AI, where somebody throws up a video and just kind of make it look like something, you know, it's going to hurt us as far as, not our industry, but as far as researchers, because someone can just say, well, that's AI.

You have no way to prove it. When they have quantum AI, that's going to be different. Just like quantum AI, if somebody's cheating on something or if somebody's doing something wrong, it'll pick it, right, from what I understand. Listen to Joe von Pulitzer, who's a genius. Brilliant, man. it'll pick out things like you won't have corrupt politicians anymore because they'll pull it out they'll find it right away you know stuff like that but I just um I think the the

the gauge impressions I wish that you know they could look into that more because I think that's going to be a key we're going to need going forward only because people can just say oh that's not real that's not like like we know that the Gimlin film is real because they didn't have the technology back then, right? And also, I think they did gauge impressions for that. And also, you can't find a human in a monkey suit who can make a gauge impression that's something 800 to 12 hundred pounds could make

with dermal ridges if I put stride, you have to be 79 feet tall. I mean, to me, it's just common sense, but like I said, I don't know what that cost. I don't know how expensive they are. I don't know what goes into that. that. Maybe we can go and go and find me and get one we can pass around.

I don't know. It's a discussion. I mean, it's a discussion that could go on for another 50, 60 years, I think. Who knows? But, man,

it's, Bigfoot's a weird topic. It's a fun topic because as, as technology progresses, then it's just another way for us to look at the Bigfoot topic and to see, okay, maybe we can figure it out now. Oh, we're not we're not close enough yet maybe we can do this but like man we're talking about

AI like if i get a video or a photo if it doesn't have some sort of metadata i can't believe it anymore you know what i mean like it's just it's it's it's too bad too because it's like we knew it was coming we knew it was at the point is going to be at the point where you get these videos that looks so good you got to have that metadata you know or something like that to prove that it's real because just anyone that knows even a little bit about AI can make even they can even make video now that looks like it was filmed with a handy cam back in the 90s

and it's got like the dates and yeah it got like a big foot and it looks like the Freeman footage it's just it's crazy that's a good one it is crazy what people are coming out with so you know it is you almost have to have the video on the actual physical media. Like here it is on the VHS tape or, you know, I don't know. It's ridiculous.

But, but, but, but what a fun conversation. A few things that have never really been talked about on the show before. I appreciate you coming on the show. I want to make sure that you were able to share the different accounts and stories that you'd come on to, to share about from the different places you've lived. in over the years. Thank you. Thank you so much. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, you know, keep us in mind if you ever hear anything else going on down there in North Georgia, I would love to hear about it. You can always send me an email and yeah, maybe we get an

update from you in the future. But thank you so much for coming on the show today, bud. Thanks for having me. And like I said, I appreciate everything you're doing and all your work. I listen to your podcast frequently. You have a lot of them, but everyone is different, and every story is different, and constantly learning new things that I would have never even thought of. So we appreciate you and everything you're doing. Thank you, bud.

Thank you, bud. You have a great rest of your day, sir. All right. Thank you, sir. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th,

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