Bigfoot Society - Night of the Sasquatch! | Washington

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

What happens when decades of Bigfoot obsession finally lead to one moonlit night in the shadow of Mount Baker — and a creature that defied every expectation? In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, we sit down with Robert Evans, a longtime researcher whose journey spans Florida, Georgia, Washington, Canada, and beyond.Robert recounts his early brush with the unknown in the Chattahoochee mountains, his years of fruitless treks through the Cascades, and the moment everything changed in 2012 — when a massive figure on all fours glided across a floodplain and leapt over a fallen log in front of him. You’ll also hear the untold story of the Finding Bigfoot drone expedition that captured incredible thermal footage… only to lose it to a string of failures.From Walla Walla roars to high-tech drone hunts in Ohio and California, Robert’s story reveals both the triumph and heartbreak of chasing evidence of the elusive Sasquatch. More than just a sighting, this is a saga of obsession, technology, and the mystery that refuses to let go.Robert currently uses a Mavic 2 Thermal drone at 640x512. 🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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and then one night under a full moon found himself staring at something that changed his entire paradigm. What he saw is unlike nothing that you've heard on the show so far. This is the story of Robert Evans, Bigfoot researcher and drone enthusiast. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. you've got the privilege of talking to Robert Evans today. Robert is an individual who has decades of big footing experience in the Pacific Northwest. It's currently down there in Costa Rica, but I was able to connect with him to really get some interesting things he's had happen over the years.

We'll be talking about that and maybe also a little bit of information about what it was like to be involved with the last episode of Finding Bigfoot. So welcome to the show, Robert. How are you doing today? Hey, I'm great. How are you? Having a great day. It's not too bad out here in the Midwest of the U.S., so always fun to talk to people about their experiences over the years.

But, you know, Robert, it sounds like we have a lot of really interesting things to talk about. So I think for this one, do you mind sharing what it was that first brought you into the field of Bigfoot to begin with. Yeah, absolutely. So I had a potential siding. I'll tell you, I've only had one definitive siding, which we'll get into later, but I had a potential citing when I was 17 that piqued my interest and got me, got me into big footing, got me holes, you know?

I even had an experience before that that I didn't think was thicklut until later when I learn more about it. And I can go back and tell you about that as well. But I'll play you first about when I was 17. So at the time I was living and going to high schools in Boca Raton, Florida, in Kandup. Like in ninth grade, we had a summer class, a bushcraft class with a shaman Rikshani taught us, you know, how to make shelters, how to build fires and all that good stuff. And so my friends and I after that, when I turned 16 and got my driver's license, we would head through Georgia to the mountains to go camp it. We would go like all the time. Sometimes we'd leave right after school on Friday and go, then, you know, Friday night out there, drive

to six or seven hours, whatever it was. And, um, and we had rules. We didn't really, didn't think a big foot at all at the time, but we had roles. No electronics, no flashlights, no, we wanted to be, you know, with nature as much as we could. And that was great because we got to see like a wild fox and like it was awesome nature liars, you know, getting out there and in, we're in, I think it was Chadahoochee, is the area in Georgia, where the mountains start to come. And on this one trip, we were hiking along a river. And after two days of hiking, we first found an area.

that was kind of weird. It had, first we thought it was trash. I was with two friends, Chris and Ravi, and we were the supernors. The three of us were like, top of our class,

advanced calculus and physics and all that good stuff. Anyway, we found this clearing, and at first we thought it was trash, and then we looked, and it was really weird. It was like a candy wrapper

that was percolated and set down, and then something, else right next to it. And then there was, I remember, a single blue toddler shoe that was just sitting there. And when we saw that stuff, we were like, okay, let's leave it. Like, maybe there's a psycho in the woods. It was like collecting stuff and leaving it. So we left all that stuff. And we went a little bit further and we set up our cam. In the morning, I had, uh, I got up right before dawn to go to the bathroom and I went behind our shelter. We made our own show. We made our own shelters, like just with a tarp, but also like trees, they cut and bent and everything.

It was awesome. Anyway, I was going to go to the bathroom and I went up this little hill behind us and I saw something peering out of the right side of this tree and it was smaller than me. And to this day, I'm not sure if it was a bear or I think it might have been a juvenile splotch because of what happened later. So I charged at it to scare it because if it's a bear and you're that close, you're supposed to try and scare them off. So that's what I get.

I charged up the hill and they ducked behind the tree as I was charging at it. And then I got up to the tree and I looked behind it and there's nothing there. And the other side of the hill was kind of a little bit lit from the dawn at this point. I expected to see whatever it was going down the other side of the hill, but I didn't see anything and I didn't hear anything. Then when it dawned on me, whatever it is, it's in the tree right above me. I didn't even look up. I just folded and went right back to our shelters.

And then when I got back, Ravi, an Indian kid, was coming from the other direction. And he looked past both and we both said to each other, let's just pack it up and get out of here. And Chris didn't like that because we were supposed to stay a few more days. but we packed it up we hiked like a death march all day until night time to get back to the car and then we checked into a nearby motel

stinky three of us and then in the morning on the drive back to Florida Robbie says to us guys I got to tell you something the other morning I was going to go to the bathroom and across to creek from me I saw like a huge seven foot hairy thing in it.

And I hadn't even told him what I saw. So, you know, for hours we're like, oh, was it a guy in a gilly suit? Was it this? No, no, no. It was a big slip. And so that's what sparked the interest for me. I think I caught a glimpse of a juvenile and he saw an adult male at the same time. And that's what got me into big footing.

From that point no. And when I got hired by Microsoft in 2000, I was so excited to go squatching in the Pacific Northwest. And I got out there as often as I could. I even went so far as with two prints of mine, we ran to the sea plane to take us eye into the Cascades, landed in an area inaccessible by trail on a float plane. And for two weeks, we did roughing and camping up there in the Cascades, not a single. tree knock, not a single howl or anything, unfortunately. No, no luck, but man, I was trying. And every chance I got, I go out camping and just walk in the trails at night. I'd get up before

dawn and go out on the trails. And I didn't have much luck for, gosh, for 12 years, I didn't have any luck. You know, I tried a lot. And I think what turned it around for me was around, 2011, I contacted BFRO and I said, hey, guys, I was working at Microsoft at this point. And I said, I'll build your BFR or Windows app. And they're like, sure. And so I started building their app and I got direct access to what's called Flats is the BFRO backend. So I could see reports when they came in before they were made public. at the same time, through Microsoft,

I was doing a ton of work in Vancouver, Canada. And there was a large group of developers that I was working there, and we were working on the Windows 8 and 8.1. And so I was going back and forth between Seattle and Vancouver, Canada, every week. And I said to my manager,

you know, this is horrible, because I'm basically driving on Saturday You know, we're on Friday. Two days are wasted because of the driving. And I said, I want to have three-day weeks. And he said, yes. So for two years, I got to basically work three days a week and enjoy the beautiful drive up to Vancouver, Canada,

and splotch on the way up and splotch on the way back for two years, hitting all the hot spots between Seattle and Vancouver, Canada. That was my deal. That was one of the happiest times of my life. That could be awesome. Wow, that is, that is fantastic. And as we were talking before the show started, I used to be a tech guy myself.

I used to also be a software engineer. It wasn't really my deal. So, but that's beside the point. But I think there are some guys listening that are tech guys, but also in a big foot and can learn some lessons from what you just said is that if you're smart about it you can integrate the two together and kind of if you're really good at it you can also be like hey maybe I switch around my schedule a little bit but also going back to the the Georgia thing for a second do you know approximately the year that that happened probably

89, I'm guessing. Back then, it was paper maps, and we would just find the closest mountains and rivers and just go, like, you're nothing to do with Bigfoot at that point. We thought that it was a, you know, a made up creature, and if it did exist, it was all

in the Pacific Northwest. So to see that in Georgia, it was mind-blowing, you know? Oh, absolutely. I mean, and so this was in the Chattahoochee National Forest? Or National Forest, yeah? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

I'm curious myself about this. How did seeing what Robbie see, did that affect him later on in life? Or was he like, hey, it happened, but I don't really want to deal with it? Well, so as we're driving back to Florida and the three of us are talking about this for a while. And then Chris, Chris, who didn't see it at all, was like, guys, everybody makes fun of us enough. And we all agreed that we're not going to talk about this when we get back. So we kept a lid on him. We didn't, you know, we were the super nerds already.

And we decided not to talk about it or tell anybody about it. So. And in my mind, I'm like, not 100% sure. Did I see a bear? You know, I didn't see ears. It was just kind of silhouetted. with the backlight a little bit, I didn't see a face.

All I saw was like the fur and it ducked quickly behind the tree. It was smaller than me. So, you know, it was enough to peak my intellectual curiosity and make me want to go out and try and find,

you know, if he's big, good or real. But up until my sighting in 2012, I was still kind of on the fence about it. And then I'm like, okay, yeah,

no, they're real. Absolutely. So, you know and then fast forwarding to the pacific northwest you're able to have you know you're able to do all this squatchen and did you have any interesting experiences that stood out uh in your memory when you think of that time being able to spend uh so much research in the field yeah so like i said i had a lot of uh unsuccessful meaning no no tree knocks no no i shine no no nothing for many years. And then I got access to the back in a BFRO. And one time there was a siting in, I believe it was in Walla Walla.

I remember right. And I immediately was like, I was already heading back from Vancouver anyway. And I went straight there like the next day after the report was made. And it was nice time. and I was, it wasn't that late, maybe like 10 o'clock at night, and I was hiking into that area where the report was. And I remember there was a clear-cut, like forest clear-cut area, and I was crossing at going to, uh, planning to go up, up this mountain,

right where the siding had done. And then I heard, um, a whistle on the right side of the, of the clearing, like, but in the woods, little bit, a whistle like a, and then a clap, a single clap, and then right in between those two further off on the mountain, I heard a roar that it was like, like a combination of a, of a bear and an elephant or something, or like a, like a lion or it was the deepest, like I can't reproduce it. And it scared the heck out of me.

I was like, what am I doing out here alone in the woods with whatever made that sound? But that was the first. And I had my recorder on me and going, but it was in the pocket of my big jacket. It was coal. And I didn't get any good audio off of that. But that was the first potential Bigfoot experience that I'd had after all these years of doing stuff. So I'm like on to something. We're using the FRO data to find the better spots to go.

That was a breakthrough moment for me. And I turned around. I can keep going. I turned around and went back to my tent and spent the night in my tents that night. But then, you know, scouting areas where the reports were in between Seattle and Vancouver, Canada, and exploring a lot of spots. And then I found, I found an area in the South Twin, Mount Baker South Twin area. And I'll describe it for you.

There was a hill. on both sides, kind of imagine a valley, and there's a lake, and there's kind of a floodplain, and no, very, very few upright trees in this floodplain. It's mostly large trees that have been washed out by the, by the water. And then I got waiters on, and I went down into the creeks, and it's like a labyrinth. Imagine a massive labyrinth area where, the walls of the water has worn down the walls and they're like five foot tall. And you can walk down in there without being seen. And it's this massive labyrinth area.

And so I started exploring in there. You wouldn't think of it for Bigfoot, but I'm like, this is perfect for them because they can eat whatever critters or, you know, things are in the creek and they can remain unseen just by crouching down. And it was really hard to get in there. So it's not like there's going to be people in there. You see what I mean? So I decided this is the spot that I want to make like a long-term observation spot.

And I would park my car at a mini-couper at the time. I parked that car and then I started hiking down in there going towards the lake. And I got it. I found this one spot where I could be climb up on the bank and there was a down log and I put fruit on it. I put like apples, ferries and stuff on the down log. And then I would back up far enough away and then climb up another elevation where I would just sit and watch the log. My thought was maybe I'm going to be lucky enough to see like a hand come up and grab an apple. You know what I mean?

That was my thought. And so I started doing that. And I bought fruit and vegetables and I would stop there. It was near a salmon hatchery. If you're trying to find it on the map, it's like non-baker, South Twin area. It's near a salmon hatchery. On the paper maps, it was near a horse called Monkey Tree Forest.

When I look on Google Maps, I can't find that forest anywhere. So I don't know. But on the paper maps, that's what it was. Anyway, twice a week, twice a week I would go on the way up to Vancouver and I would lay out all the fruit and vegetables. And then on the way back, I would go and check it every time everything was gone, except for the potatoes. Now, that doesn't mean big foot, you know, could have been any kind of animal down in there that it was getting it. I did this for almost two months, like a month and a half, twice a week, leading the vegetables and fruit and stuff, and then checking it on the way back and then leaving more fruit and vegetables. I only once ever saw one person, which was freaking terrifying. I'm out there hiking in the labyrinth, splashing down the river.

I hear splashing splashed temps. It was not dark yet. It was just twilight. in the afternoon and around the corner comes a hunter with a deer on his shoulders. Like he killed a deer back in there. You're the heck out of me. After about a month and a half of this, it was October 2012. It was a full moon or near a full moon. As soon as I started on the trail, I immediately heard a splash in like a big rock. was thrown in a little creek

not in the pre-it-out-I-was-in but in the one like right next to me. Splash. And a single sounded like a hand clap. It wasn't a woodnot. I'm like, okay, they're here. So I got my GoPro camera

out of my pocket and I turned it on and I'm holding my GoPro with one hand and I'm holding the plastic bag with my fruit and vegetables the other and I'm splashing down and going towards my spot. And then I climbed up on the observation point where I usually sit, you know, I would sit for like an hour or two.

I used to do meditation a lot, and I don't mind sitting and quiet for a long time. I'm listening to the sounds of nature. That's real joy of squatching. It's not even about if you see anything. It's like enjoying the Lloyds of nature in the South. Anyway, so I get up on the observation point. and I start looking around and you could see perfectly clearly.

It was almost a full moon. Like you could see everything like really well. And I look and I'm like, wait a minute, there was not a tree stump right there. Yeah, I know this. I know this about really well at this point in time.

I've been here twice a week for a month and a half. There's not a tree stump right there. And as I'm looking at it, it turned to the, the right as I'm facing it to its left. And on all fours, it booked it to the right. And it, he was not that far away from me. I don't know exactly how far, but if he used it, it was close enough where I could see it clearly. And it was at my eye level. On all fours, he'd never stood up, all fours. And it, it leapt. It extended its arms and legs and I, and leapt over a down

tree. And it was gone. whole sighting lasted, you know, maybe three seconds, one thousand, two and thousand, three hundred thousand, done. But I got a really good look at it. And it was not, it was not for body proportions of patty like I would expect it to be. It, um, his head was very shrunken into its shoulder. It was at least seven foot, maybe over seven foot tall. His arms were extremely long. Like, if you were to take an NBA basketball player and put, like, arm extensions on it, that was kind of the body size.

But its head was so shrunken into the shoulders. Shoulders were very wide. It looked. I mean, my first thought when I saw it was like, where's his head? Like you, you know. Like has the head looked in Trofal and Darkwoods so tiny because it was so shrunken into its shoulders. I'm not expressing this very well, but I'm trying to describe it. The chest, the shoulders were broad, but it didn't have like a wide chest cavity, like a deer wood or like that.

It was kind of skinny and lanky, long, like skinny, lanky arms and legs, like a, like an NBA basketball player, but with lighter shoulders and the head kind of shunk it in. And full known, I mean, I could see every light of grass. I could see everything very clearly. And it leapt. They got good airtime as arms, legs extended, sailed over the down log, and done. And while this was happening, I had my GoPro camera out, aimed right at it. I booked it back to the car.

I tried to get my laptop going so I could look at the footage. And that wasn't working. So I decided to make the drive the rest of the late to Vancouver and check into the hotel, which I did. and then as I'm getting my my GoPro plugged in and my laptop set up and I'm starting to play it, I called my mother.

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Find your shade of instant eraser Concealer at your local retailer Mabelene, New York And at 1 o'clock of the morning, half's 1 o'clock in the morning, I called my mother, woke her up and I'm like, I did it. I did it. I finally got one on camera. I woke her up.

And then I'd play it back, nothing. Like, it was too dark. It was not enough light through that old GoPro camera. And I was so, I'm still crushed to this day and not enough light to do anything. I've tried editing it in software to bring up the kind of nothing, nothing would come out. Because I, I would have had an nominal footage. Even if I had a therm, I would have had the best footage.

Like, it was awesome. And yeah, I actually called in sick that day and on hardly any sleep because I was so excited. I drove all the way back to Seattle. I got my phantom, uh, the early drone. I went back to that spot. I tried droning and looking around like, is there any chance they're bedded down during the day inside the labyrinth somewhere, you know, but no luck with that. I have not been back squashing to that spot yet because I want to bring my thermal drones

and I want to have more there. Like Nat wants to go with me and I want to have multiple thermal drones. And like this time when I go back, I determine when I go back, I'm going to be so ready to catch it again, I'm not going to fail. Like that was, that's where I'm coming from. Everything is practice up until I can get back there and do it right. Right. Yeah. That is absolutely incredible. My goodness. Yeah, definitely a few questions for you. So at that point, when you were, you're viewing it, did you notice any eye glow or eye shine or anything I thought? No, I didn't see any eye shine. And with its head so shrunken into its body, like it, I think I was seeing just like the top part of the,

the conical part of its head. It looked like a headless person almost, like with a little lump. It was not at all like I expected to see. And I don't know how it can see where it's going. A few other things. It's ferned into my memory. Its back looked like it was keeping steady,

like you could have a glass of water on its back. You would expect its back to be going up and down as it was cruising along on all bores? No. It was like so smooth. Smooth like butter. And on all fours, like I said, never stood up. It went from a prairie dog crouch.

That's what I thought was a tree stump. It was crouching like a prairie dog and just looking at me. And I thought that was a tree stump. And then on all forests, like moving its legs and arms, I could see it really well, not a huge belly, not a huge chest. Like, you know, like an ungulate. it didn't have that chest plate, you know, that it was definitely not a bear. It was definitely, it was deep, and then it extended its arms and legs and freaking leaped so far.

So that's really interesting. You bring up how, you know, how smooth it was, because that is a pattern that keeps on coming up. Definitely in this show is that people will say when it moves, it's like it's gliding. And to hear it, you say that, you know, so it's moving on all fours, but it still had that smoothness to it, right? Yeah, like a greyhound. The way it was moving its arms and legs like a greyhound. But it was incredibly smooth. The back just looked like it was going perfectly straight, not up and down as it's moving its arms and legs, which is what you would expect.

But no, it was so smooth. Were you able to see during those few seconds anything, any details regarding like hair length or what the hair looked like? Anything I thought? No, I mean, it all looked black to me. So, you know, under the moonlight, I don't know. It could have been, I don't know what color of hair it was. But I could see enough of the like fuzziness that it had hair. It had hair.

It was definitely covered in hair. Imagine if you had an NBA basketball player, but we. broader shoulders and without a head or with a tiny shrunken head like in profile that's what it looked like and there was enough light i mean it was it was either a full moon or near a full moon and i could see underneath it i could see i could see it very very clearly after those that time of seeing it did this i mean you you may have already had an idea before of what you would classify this creature as some people lean more towards, you know, human base. Some people lean more towards like undiscovered ape.

Did this siting lean you in any way regarding that? You know, I had a preconceived notion before the sighting of like a patty, you know, body style. And I still think that the patty, the PG film is real. but I just think they come in different sizes in shapes, just like humans. And this one was way more graceful, way faster, and the head shrunken into the shoulders way more than I expected.

So the body shape was different than I had preconceived notions up. I don't know. Like, it's hard for me to say that that's in any way human, because the head. Finding big good episode, we actually had much better footage that it wasn't showing. on the show. After that whole experience, I was, um, I, I, I, of course, was droning more and more on some of the, the blogs and stuff where I was talking about that. I was working on on that. Matt, Moneymaker

contacted me and, um, and he, you, uh, he and I started chatting and her, I showed him our drone and what we're doing. Matt contacted me and was like, hey, want to be on finding Bigfoot? I'm like, yeah. Yeah. And so we, we, we took the, the drone. and they did a new episode Finding BigFit, The Search Continues, and that was so much fun. And I had a buddy of mine, Adam, and then he took off,

and immediately something went wrong with the drone. And he's like, just above the trees through like a small hole in the trees, and the controller goes off. And this is like a $27,000 drone. It's not cheap. And we're freaking. out and then the

the current were updated on the controller and he was able to get a back again and he landed it and we checked it all out and made sure everything looked good and then he took off again and so he was right after that dramatic moment that he took off now Cliff and his team were

down south a little bit Matt and his team were up north a little bit and we're flying and drowning we saw both of them through the thurn perfectly well and all of the sudden we see a hot spot right in between the two of them. And as we're looking at it and zoomed in with the camera,

it got up and it ran across like the trail. And it was like twice as big as cleft. It was huge. And right after it ran across the trail, it hunkered down again. And that's when I looked at the screen. I'm monitoring it on my laptop so I can see everything that's coming to you to the job on my laptop and it's running for my AI software.

And I realized Adam, you're not with Corday. their normal routine is to turn on recording as soon as you take off as you're taking off but because he was flustered by what had just happened with the drone he forgot to start recording as soon as he'd have gone and so i'm like you you'll see in the tv show that part where bovo goes it's walking it's walking like that part that's real that's that's when we spotted it all right and then um and then i'm like okay it's okay it's okay because i've got recording on my laptop as well that is recording each frame as it comes in.

So I'm like, okay, we're still good. We're still good. And then he brought it back. We had to swap out batteries anyway. He bought it back, swap out batteries. And then I shut down my laptop. And it was recording, but it was really delayed because it was eating up memory as recording every frame.

And so when I shut down my laptop, as we took a little sweat break, I cut off the recording there too. So we had triple redumbent backup. We had the drone itself recording. That failed because you're getting hit for record button. The controller has a backup recording. That failed because he wasn't recording. And my laptop failed because I shut the lid on.

So the best footage you never see in the show. You see like a screenshot from one of the camera guys behind our shoulder that like saw a part of it. But unfortunately, they're really like winter footage. you just don't have it. That was frustrating. Yeah. I remember watching that and it is one of the best examples of the curse of Bigfoot. I believe that in recent times.

Like it's wild. How many different things had to get messed up for that footage not to be captured. So I can feel like I feel a man like that had to been really rough to live through. Yeah. Yeah, that was, that was harsh. That was harsh. But anyway, yeah, it was a huge. Now, we had a guy go out the next day and look exactly where it was because in that area,

we didn't found there's down the logs. And he was going underneath the logs in this like complex web of down log. So that's why we weren't seeing him while he was getting fainter and fainter. He was hiding at a least stuff. They're smart. They're smart. He heard the noise probably of the show in above or something.

It was finding cover on to read logs. Wow. Yeah, that would be fascinating to see if you're able to access that still. Yeah, I still have all the raw footage into the pieces of stuff. But nothing like the, when it ran across that trail, and it was huge.

And you have, because we added in comparison to like Griffin, his team, so you could see the size difference as well in the really good footage. But anyway, so, yeah, so there was that. We kind of, I've since been on several expeditions with Matt and with, like, BFR on expeditions.

We had one in Ohio where I really think we kind of protected the art of drones and watching. I can tell you briefly about that if you're interested. I would love to hear that. That might be very helpful for listeners to know that are trying to get into drone usage when it comes to Bigfoot. Yeah, this is really good if you have a small group of people that want to go out drone squatching. For a while, I had a website, drone squatchers, but I haven't had time to maintain that. So what we did in Ohio was we, first of all, I subscribed to a service called

a drone instance. And it's the same service used by law enforcement and rescue, like search and rescue. And it provides software that tracks all of your drones' locations. But what was really cool is you can also use it on the ground.

Your phone connects to it. And so we had like, we had our central station where we could see on a map where the drones were and where the ground search team was. And then we had the ground team put their fleers up to the phone camera and you could see through the the you could see the fleer and all of this was coordinated in map so we had um and then we had like a live audience i don't know

how many people were watching all this while we were while we were doing it but it was it was pretty awesome because we saw a hot spot something large and hot with the drone but it was in the foliage and we couldn't get to it but we were able to direct ground team uh to go with with their fleers. And the footage is awesome. They're crunching through the forest and you can see through the clear. And then it's a deer. But the suspense is killing everybody.

But so that, that software when used right, like it's great. In multiple journals, you can see where they're at. You can coordinate all the activity. And it was really cool. That is fascinating. Let's say there's individuals that are trying to get into, like, I want to have a drone for Bigfoot research. Do you recommend a certain size or model they would start with? I know these things can get super, super expensive.

Yeah. I've got two drones that are my go-to. But my buddy just recently got a, there's like an American company that's making a, or, or a copy of the DGI that's, but the evident area is, it's like almost identical, and he swears by it. But I,

I'm still a DGI guy. I like the DGI. If a DGR, Mendi is my day grown. And then I've got the GI, I'm trying to remember the name, it,

uh, it's, uh, shoot, it's a thermal drought. He don't want to go for the lower resolution. You want to go for like 520. Uh,

I think that's the highest. I kind of remember the spec. But it's, yeah, you need the higher resolution, Joe. And they're not that big now. It was still like around $5,000. It's pretty icy. I would say if you're just getting started, just get a mini and do day drone day droning with that.

It's such a great app. It's such a fun drone to fly around, and it's small and has high resolution. There's a newer one out. big that has a pretty good night camera on it as well like the like color but low light you know and you're able to film with that there's next on my list trying to remember the name of it uh there's a a new larger camera that has both um low light camera as well as the thermal camera but it's only mounted on the larger matrice drones like we have.

I can't remember TN something. But that camera, they did it for search and rescue because what they're finding is that you can see the hotsphots on the therm, but you can't always identify what it is. So combining that with a low light camera, the search and rescue is able to identify what it is. That's next on my list to get amoralized. Yeah, like, for example, we did an expedition in California up in the mountains in the Sierra with Matt, and the problem there was there's rocks everywhere, and the hot rocks absorbed the sun during the day,

and at night there are just hot spots littered everywhere. And, for example, when I was on that expedition, there was a ram or some kind of angular. It looked like a ram. I'm not sure, or it might have been a stag or something. It had big horns. And that animal was less bright in the fir and than the boulders around it. And I think because they conserve the heat, you know, I'm not sure it's sparked to do the same way, but it makes sense for an animal that's out in the cold to have

whatever layers of fur to be able to conserve their heat. So the assumption that they're going to glow bright like a human might be completely, you know, wrong in some situations. Is that make sense? No, it absolutely does. I know thermal drones are definitely becoming more and more popular, but they are very expensive. They'd be curious to see if those ever start dropping down in price

and then more usable by the, I guess you could say, you know, everyday sclotcher. not everyone has you know five six grand to to drop on a drone couple of recommendations on there so number one do not waste your money on anything below the 520 resolution like the 320 and cheaper ones and the frame rate really matters is you know 30 or 60 but a higher frame rate instead of growing and wasting your money on a on a lower drone where you're you're just you're going to see stuff and you're not going to be to identify it uh don't even bother Instead, find two or three like-minded people,

pull your money, get one higher-in drone, and sure. And here's another thing. As soon as you get the drone, sign up for DGI care, you only have a short period of time after you buy it to sign up for DGI care. They are awesome.

It's not very much money, and they will immediately send you a replacement drone when and if it's more than it. When you crouch your drone, because you will class it. And they'll immediately send your replacement you send in the damage drone. Like, they're awesome.

But if you don't sign up quick enough, you miss that window to sign up. That's awesome. You're in down in Costa Rica now. Are there any plans maybe in the future to go back on Bigfoot expeditions? Are you kind of moved past that now? Never. I'll never move past.

Right, right. Exactly. Mortgage. No, I don't think there's any muffin war. or anything in my neighborhood in Costa Rica now. But I'll definitely go back. You know, my son and I love camping and swatching with Matt. So at some point, maybe even over the Christmas break,

I want to go back swatching in my old stomping grounds in Seattle area. Maybe I'll go back to that hot spot and bring my thermal groan as long as I've got a few other people and give it a serious effort this time. Yeah. That'll be awesome. would be fascinating. I just want to say thank you for spending some time talking about what you've experienced. If you are able to go back to that place, was it a monkey tree forest area, I would love to hear about it. Definitely, you know, feel free to reach out with any updates you have.

Mount Baker, South Twin. Yeah, Mount Baker, South Twin area. If anybody's trying to find it, look for a salmon hatchery, and it's right in that neighborhood. Boom, there you go. And that's on, is that on public land as well? Yeah. Okay. There's a campground near there. I can't remember, but I usually didn't camp at the can't farm. If you get a, there's a past, forced past, I think, what it was called where you can just park around the side of the road and go camping.

It's awesome up there. Yeah, thank you for your time. Thank you for letting me blab on for whatever couple of hours. And this is fun. Awesome. Well, great talking to you, man. and have a great rest of your day down there in Costa Rica, dude. All right, thanks, Finn.

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