Bigfoot Society - Oregon Fires Are Making Bigfoot Uncontrollable!

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

In this chilling episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron sits down with Eric, a lifelong outdoorsman from the edges of Oregon’s Willamette National Forest, to recount a series of extraordina...ry encounters that have redefined his understanding of the wilderness.From eerie midnight whistles echoing through narrow canyons to unseen forces toppling massive Douglas Firs, Eric’s stories unfold like a slow-burning campfire mystery — rich with detail, awe, and a hint of fear. Listeners will follow his journey from quiet camping trips with his wife to full-blown encounters marked by strange communication, overwhelming odors, and the unmistakable sense of being watched in the deep woods.Along the way, Jeremiah and Eric explore the possibility that these moments weren’t coincidences at all — and that something ancient and intelligent still roams the Pacific Northwest.Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, or just fascinated by the unknown, this episode will make you think twice before dismissing what might be just beyond the tree line.Featuring:Whistles and rock-turning in the nightA mysterious light-moving visitorGrowls, stolen steaks, and tree-toppling powerReal audio from the encountersFirsthand insight from a man living in Bigfoot country🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:01:35 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bickford Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Eric today. Eric is an outdoorsman from just outside the Willamette National Forest in an area that's between sisters and Eugene. I had the pleasure of meeting Eric at the first session. Sasquatch Summerfest in Oak Ridge, Oregon, July of 2024, just for future listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And we had a good chat then. We've been keeping in touch over the last year or so. And there's been some really interesting things that have been happening to Eric up where he's at. Welcome to the show. Eric, how are you doing today, sir? I'm doing great, Jeremiah. Thanks for having me. And good to talk to you again.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Absolutely. It's a thing where I remember when I was talking to you down. there in Oak Ridge and I was like man someday we're gonna have a we gotta have a chat with Eric on the show and I'm glad that it finally happened but we definitely have a bit of ground to cover today feel free to take us back to when you first started experiencing Bigfoot related interactions a little bit of history raised my kids here in the northwest I'm an older gentleman now but the wife introduced me to camping.
Starting point is 00:03:04 We met in high school, and that was my first opportunity to ever camp in the Northwest. I'd actually have run around in the woods. I was fortunate to live next to some state woodland, and so I actually had free run, and the last of seven kids, So the folks gave me, they were ready to retire from kids, so they didn't keep too close an eye on me. So that gave me a lot of time in the wilds. So I wanted my kids to have the same opportunity to be out in the woods.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So we did a lot of boondock camping. I think we had one opportunity to stay at a state park, but other than that, we were always out in the wild. but it wasn't until after they they grew up and went out on their own. I don't recollect any sort of weird incident, any sort of situation that would make me question their safety, my safety, or if anything was out there, not even any bear. But later on, the wife and I, we love camping. And so we got a couple of, I got my first. Jeep Rubicon outfitted it, rooftop 10. And I built a utility trailer and outfitted it with everything you would need for living out in the wilderness for a while.
Starting point is 00:04:40 And so we started heading out deeper and deeper into the Willamette National Forest. And we spent a lot of time way out. where people don't go. That was the whole point of getting the jeeps. We camp year round, rain, snow, summer. The first real eyebrow raising
Starting point is 00:05:11 situation was late October 2022. The wife and I alone went up into the Santiam. That's part of the Wollamette National Forest, so this little
Starting point is 00:05:28 Quartz Creek, you follow it on up, and it goes way back, I believe it goes all the way up into the Cascade Range, but where it's origins exactly are, I'm not sure, but we were way back up in there. We found a beautiful
Starting point is 00:05:47 little spot, all of the year, the maples and all the trees are turning color and just found this beautiful spot and it was a flat area so i set up our wall tent got the stove going there's a creek bed below us about 20 30 feet so we had clean water and so that first first night we we call it a night early it's it was already dark but I could hear whistling up on the hillside. Of course, it's heavily wooded with Douglas fir and maple and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But the whistle was very sharp, very clear, very powerful, and came up from the hillside. We're in at that point a very narrow canyon. And this whistle just echoed through the canyon. And it wasn't disconcerting. I just didn't know what it was. and every once in a while there'd be a whistle up on the hillside. And I'm a light sleeper.
Starting point is 00:07:01 The wife, she doesn't hear so good. So she fell asleep. I fell asleep. And I woke up to more whistling. But this time it was same place up on the hillside, but then a return whistle came from the creek bed below us. And, man, that's communication. that's strange. I don't know what's...
Starting point is 00:07:26 At that time, I didn't know what was causing it, of course. But then I started hearing rocks getting turned over in the creek bed. And some of those rocks were the size to where I could actually feel them. I'm on a cot in a tent, 25-ish feet above the creek bed, and I could feel these rocks getting turned over. And the whistles go back and forth every few minutes. There'd be a whistle up above and then down below in the creek bed. And then I'm realizing at first I was thinking bear,
Starting point is 00:08:08 but the bear, although they don't hibernate this time, that time of year, but they really don't hibernate in this area. But I wasn't really thinking, I didn't know what to think actually, but I knew something was going on, something powerful, because I could feel these rocks getting rolled around back and forth.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Then I'm realizing the whistle up above is a lookout, and the family, or whoever, is down in the creek bed collecting dinner. And they're going after crayfish, snails. There's lots of stuff, lots of fish and little fish in that creek. So I'm thinking they're the ones watching out, making sure we don't come out of the tent or do anything stupid while the rest of them eat their meal.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And didn't feel any threat, no fear, no nothing, no smell, no, no. I honestly fell back asleep. and I woke up it was some time later but I woke up and woke up to footfalls right next to my wall tent. I had
Starting point is 00:09:28 a canvas, military canvas tent that I laid down to keep the inside of the tent clean while it extended out by about five feet outside the tent and something
Starting point is 00:09:45 was walking past the tent on that tarp. I could hear the footfalls tarp. And so that next morning I woke up and, you know, told the wife about it. And why didn't you wake me up? You were sleeping. But that was really, and then nothing happened at that site after that. I did look around the next morning at the trail and there wasn't anything.
Starting point is 00:10:16 obvious. I looked down in the creek bed. Obviously, some of the rocks had been turned over. Some of the sizable rocks had been turned over. But again, nothing to indicate what it was or who it was. Wow, Eric. That's an intense first experience. Are you able to, not to put you on the spot, but are you able to try to do a rep, maybe a, something that sounded like the kind of whistle that you were hearing. Is that anything you're able to replicate? Gosh, I suck at whistling. I really do. I'm jealous of people who can really whistle loud,
Starting point is 00:10:50 but it was a high-pitched, very sharp, very powerful whistle. And I've hunted elk. I know what an elk sounds like when it squeals, whistles, whatever it is, they do. It was nothing like that. And you could tell it was far enough up on the hillside. It was ways up there, but yet the whistle was sharp and clear. you could definitely hear it down where we were at.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And I really, again, I was just baffled as to what was actually happening. But I think by the end of that night, I had a pretty clear idea that, you know, what was up there was probably a family unit of Bigfoot Sasquatch, whatever you want to call them. I didn't have any evidence, but you're laying in bed in the middle of the night, and you can hear these things happening. A bear, we don't have any bearer that big around here to roll rocks of that size over. It just seemed like something would need to have hands and a lot of power behind those hands to roll those rocks over. Absolutely. Did it sound anything like I'm going to try it on my side? I'm just curious because I'm curious if it sounded like something I heard. Was it like a...
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yes. Okay. But it was longer, sharper, very powerful. It's nothing I could even come close to replicating. Okay, got you. Yes. I think very similar to that. So similar, but...
Starting point is 00:12:41 not, it wasn't a type of deal where it was like replicating a bird sound or bird call. Oh, no, not at all. Gotcha. All right, cool. And that's, listeners can listen to the Oak Ridge episodes I've done. I'm not going to retell that story now, but sometimes they replicate bird calls. We heard that in Oak Ridge. So that's why it's, can you give me an estimate of, and not to give, you know, anything away?
Starting point is 00:13:08 but like how far back did you have to drive to get to this area where you're at? Was it really far away from the main road where you, this area is? Gosh, yeah, we were up probably 30, 40 miles back in there. We had never camped that far back in before. Like I said, we'd always had the kids and I wanted the kids to experience wilderness, us, but I didn't want to take them so far out that if something happened, we couldn't get to medic or you got kids.
Starting point is 00:13:47 You don't get too dumb. A couple of old people, you don't worry about it too much. You enjoy nature. So the older we get, the further we venture out, honestly. We get brave and get out there, and that's the whole point of the rigs and the outfitting them like we do. So if something does happen, we've got pretty much the gear to handle medical situations to, we could probably live out of what we've outfitted in our rigs for probably 30 days easy. So if we get stranded in the snow, we've got fuel, we've got different
Starting point is 00:14:29 cooking methods, we've got two different tents, we've got the rooftop tent, the wall tent with the camp stove or wood stove. We've got two different camp stoves on board, gallons of white fuel for them. We're outfitted pretty good. We get out there, and that was probably one of the first times we had the tent and the stove. I had just built those.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So we were out there. Then I think Pacific Northwest, the P&W listeners will get that. I don't know if all the listeners will get that. So you have to be aware of that. For example, when I was driving out in areas like this last July, I was driving from, let's say, Eugene over to sisters or up to Detroit. And you're not seeing any, there's like maybe one ranger.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You see that there's no police officers. It's like you are literally in. charge of keeping yourself. Like, you've got to be able to take care of yourself. And so the way that Eric is doing it, I think that's a super smart move. You're the only one that's going to be able to protect you and your wife out there. You're not going to be able to rely on calling 911, really, in this first encounter. Did you jump directly to Bigfoot or were you now at the point where you're like, I'm not really sure what happened to us out there. We're going to have to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Neither. Yes. I suspected it was probably Bigfoot. I just wanted to rule other things out and I've got a work construction so
Starting point is 00:16:19 all of these guys hunt and are out in the wilderness. So I asked them if they had any similar experiences and on the face of it nobody would say anything. I described the whistle to them. They're like, Oh, that's an elk.
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Starting point is 00:18:42 Their lung capacity just, man, that whistle whistles back and forth. They were very powerful. That an elk isn't going to kick rocks over. Rocks the size of a chair bigger. These things were rumbling the ground as they rolled away. But no, the main focus was just camping. Enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We love it. And although this was a weird experience, it was the only real experience we've had. So there was, it was just, oh, okay, moving on. Yep, moving on. Absolutely. So then after this, what was the next thing that you had encountered? So shortly after that, so that happened in October. In November of that year, we got a pretty heavy snowfall up the McKinsey River Valley here. and I had, I was actually alone that Thanksgiving,
Starting point is 00:19:43 so I thought, this is a perfect opportunity to just get up there in the snow zone and try out the wall tent in the snow. And so I had cooked up a turkey and got all the goodies together to make a turkey soup up at camp. So I headed up, and I think I was, gosh, around 4,800. feet by the time I finally got into snow that I couldn't plow through with that Jeep and trailer. I found a nice flat area and I realized that the wall tent isn't actually going to cut it and it was already getting dark by the time I had made where I was going to camp. So I decided I'll throw the wall or the rooftop tent up. So I got it all set up in the same.
Starting point is 00:20:38 setting, I had a creek bed that was below me. I could hear it surrounded by Doug Fur, and so I couldn't really see the creek bed, but I could hear it down there. It was probably 30, 50 feet below me. And then to the other side of the flat was a steep mountainside that went up at a pretty aggressive angle. And I'm getting set up, and it's getting darker and darker. I got a bunch of flashlights. I didn't want to trip and stumble, so I positioned these flashlights in kind of a perimeter around, just so I could walk around and not trip over something. And I made my dinner and crawled up in the rooftop tent and called it a night. And I thought, I don't think there's bear that if I hear something, because I left, I'm sorry, I left the soup, what was left of it,
Starting point is 00:21:36 on the cook stove. I thought, man, I should put that away, but it was still hot. So I just figured I'll just let it cool out there. I don't think, I knew there was a cougar in the area. I saw the tracks, but I didn't see any bear track or anything like that. So I just figured, yeah, if I hear one, I'll just shush it away. And then I heard it. It was a whistle way up on the hillside, just like the one before.
Starting point is 00:22:04 a sharp, crisp echoed through the area and then a return down in the creek. The exact same scenario. I've camped my whole life. Never heard this before. Never experienced this before. And now basically a month apart, it's happening again.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And so I listened to it. Same thing. I could hear the rocks getting turned over in the creek bed you can hear them rumbling but you know no vocalization no no screaming no yelling just a whistle back and forth and so i was tired so i fell asleep i'm a light sleeper but i love my sleep so the cool mountain air it was i don't know somewhere around 25 degrees and i sleep really well in the cold so i fell asleep and I have no idea what time it was early morning, probably two, three o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I woke up from a dead sleep to the most horrific smell I've ever smelled in my life. And it cracks me up every time somebody tries to describe it. For me, if you've ever been around like a farm animal or a dog that has an infection, and it's in the fur and so you just have this very pungent, very rough smell. And I was laying there awake and I could smell this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It was just saturating. And like I said, it woke me up from a dead sleep. And I had left my lights on in that perimeter around the vehicle. And I thought, man, what is going on? And all of a sudden, the light that I had placed on the front driver's side bumper of my Jeep,
Starting point is 00:24:16 it was picked up. And keep in mind, I can't really see out. I've got everything zipped up and didn't hear anything, but the flashlight got picked up and was shining around. and then it shined across the tent itself. And I thought, holy, I got something out there. And again, the whistling, rolling rocks, this time there's this smell, and something is articulating this, it's picking up this flashlight.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And I thought, man, I want to slowly unzip one of the windows so I could get a look. I knew that the second I make noise, whatever's out there is going to scatter. So I just laid there and listened, and it eventually went away. And I fell asleep again, and when I woke up later that morning, it was raining ice. And I knew that was not good because the snow was deep enough to where it was going to be with a sheet of ice on top of that. It was going to be troubled. So I got up and quickly started breaking down camp. And although I didn't look for tracks, intentionally I did, I did glance around the sea.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I saw nothing. I had stomped the snow down pretty good. But my intention was to not get myself into trouble and get stuck up there. Because honestly, nobody knew I was up there, which kind of dumb. But in any case, I got. I got camp packed up and headed down the mountain. And even inside the cab of the Jeep, which was sealed up, I could smell this thing. And I'm like, man, this is rough.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But on the way back to where I lived, I got to thinking, if I can smell this as good as I do, I wonder what a dog would do. and so my daughter and my son-in-law, they have two German shepherds. So I got my son-in-law on the phone. I'm like, hey, I want to try something. I said I want to see how your dogs react to something. Okay, I didn't really fill him in on what I was up to. And the closer I got to their house, the more I thought about it. So I called him back.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I'm like, hey, so when I get there, have your dogs. on their leash and hang on, hang on to them. I don't know how they're going to react. He's okay. And so I'm like, man, I'm serious. So I pull up in front of their house, call them again. Hey, I'm here. Make sure you got your hands on dogs.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yep, yeah. So I go up to the door. And the dog scrambled at the door because I hear somebody at the door, of course. And he opens the door. He doesn't have his hands. hands on the dogs. And the male extremely aggressive. I've never seen him like that. He's an aggressive dog anyway. But he got a whiff of that and just went crazy. Lunged at me was just going crazy. And the other dog, she was kind of holding back. She really didn't react too much.
Starting point is 00:27:55 So I got her, and I took her over to the Jeep and opened up the Jeep and see if she reacted or could smell anything. But she didn't really care. But the male dog, he was, of course, he's the alpha. He was protecting the family and he knew what that smell was. So that was, I'm sorry, that was the end of that one. Real quick, I've never stayed in a rooftop tent. I for they freak me out a little bit but when you were up there and then man I can't imagine being up there realizing something has my flashlight and then it's because it's like what happens if it starts pushing the Jeep or it like pushes it over like you're done yeah the thought never crossed my mind and I didn't feel threatened at all at all in both these encounters it was just again it just I don't know if it's accurate or not, but it just seemed like a family unit.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And they were doing their thing. I was doing my thing. And so it wasn't necessarily a hostile situation. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't feel a threat. I didn't. The smell was overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That was the only thing that was shocking. I've never, I've smelled horses. and animals that have serious infections, and they smell pretty rough, and that's the big part of what that kind of smelled was really rough. Oh, did you get that flashlight back? Was there anything weird with the flashlight when you got it back? I did.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It set it back down on my bumper pretty much in the same position that it found it. And they didn't near as I can tell anyway. They didn't mess with my dinner. They didn't mess with any of the other flashlights or any of the other gear I had sitting out. So, near as I can tell, it was just curious about the flashlight. That's a huge point. Really, it was more curious than it was hungry, which is, that's pretty cool to think about. It didn't even touch your turkey soup.
Starting point is 00:30:16 August of the following year, 2023, Cape Canyon was now on the, the bucket list and we packed up the Jeep and the wife and I headed up to Mount St. Helens. I had looked at the area to find the best possible camp I could find. And then I always have a plan B and plan C in case the primary fails, which in this particular case it did. They had a gate across one of the access points. So that was out. But we did. end up staying at the foot of Ape Canyon. And so we set up camp. And I can't necessarily, I don't know what did this, but it was interesting. I'm going to note it anyway. But that evening, I was, we looked around all day and found a good place to camp and settled in. I was
Starting point is 00:31:19 grumpy because the gate was closed and I couldn't get to our primary, although the secondary. It was really nice too, but I was grumpy. And I had set up kind of late. It was already getting dark. And so on the trailer that I built, I've got a countertop that I can put out. And so I set up the stoves and started preparing two steaks. And so I had opened this package. of steaks and pulled out two stakes out of a package of six.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And I got my back to the wood line. And I heard a growl. And it was a deep gutter old growl. Bear, I didn't know what it was. But I turned around and looked. and I had a flashlight on me. I scanned the wood line, nothing. So, I want to get dinner done, so I turn back around.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And a few seconds later, this thing starts growling again. Shine the wood light, the woodline again, nothing. I don't see anything, no eye shine, no nothing. I turn around and start working on my steaks again, putting seasoning on, and I hear the growl again. by this time, I'm like, this isn't going to stop. I grab the flashlight and head over to the tree line. I'm walking to the tree line this time and kind of rushing it,
Starting point is 00:33:08 trying to listen to see if I can hear anything breaking brush or whatever. Nothing. I didn't hear anything breaking brush. Didn't see anything. I'm looking pretty intently at this point to see what's there and nothing. Like, all right. So I go back to my steaks, and I look over in that package of steaks that I had there, there's one of them missing. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.
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Starting point is 00:36:12 Patty was there. She didn't hear anything completely oblivious to the whole situation. Wow. And so that was, I can't attribute that to anything. I have no idea. Maybe, I don't know. I don't even know what the chalk that went up to, just a weird one. but Cape Canyon is off the bucket list now, so we got that done.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You got that out of there. So was it hard to get down to where you guys camped? Because you said it was down at the base? No, we were just, in that particular case, we were, it was just a bucket list item, so we just camped. It was on one of the back roads, so it was just off a Forest Service road. So it was just like a old staging area for like fire equipment or something like that. It wasn't anything fancy. Yeah, it was beautiful up there.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It was awesome. That was, again, I wasn't scared. This thing was growling, but it wasn't, I don't know. It wasn't like, I don't think it was trying to scare me as much as get my attention to get me away from. those steaks so something else could get in there and grab one of the steaks. It's kind of weird. Absolutely. And it really lines up with, you hear these common threads where sometimes they'll be more than one. They'll try to get your attention over to another area so that one could get away or in this case, steal your food, which is, that's wild, man. That would have messed with me
Starting point is 00:37:53 for a long time when you're in a situation where something had to have. have hands in order to do what it did. I think that really does change you. But very cool story, very cool area, the ape canyon area. But yeah, feel free to continue, Eric. Fall, so it was October of 2024. We're back up in the McKinsey River Valley. We had a fire that year. Pretty much got a fire every year. Now it seems. But by October, the fire was out. Most of the equipment and the manpower, everybody had moved out. The wife and I, we jumped in the rig to hit some of the back forest service roads to just measure the damage and see what areas were affected, what wasn't.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And some of it was pretty shocking. Some of it was intact, which was really good. Forest fires are very disconcerting. This one was pretty close to where we're. we are and so it keeps the anxiety high all year or not all year but the all summer long but so we got up in back up in there and as we're headed back in there I look over and here's an area of devastation but it's not devastation by fire it's trees not old growth not huge trees but they were probably six to eight inch diameter trees that were snapped off.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Some of them were like pulled out of the ground. Some of them were broke off, measured at 14 feet up in the air. They were broke off. And I walked back in there because it was just so odd. I actually walked back in there and see if they were saw cut, if machinery had pushed them down. this whole area which was probably the size of maybe half a football field there wasn't anything really standing they were leaning over on each other some of them were just pushed over onto
Starting point is 00:40:15 other ones but the whole thing was surrounded by standing trees there were there was the trees were so close you're not going to get equipment in there and even if you could the The trees were not, they weren't damaged in such a way as were a grappler or a saw or anything left marks on it. None of this was saw cut. It was all just snapped off. And just a very bizarre and realistic scene. It was really no way, even wind surrounded, although it is on a hillside. We hadn't had any wind.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Definitely no snow load because this was going in to fall. It wasn't a snow load issue. So it was like something got in there and threw a temper tantrum is the best way I describe it. And just walked back to the Jeep and we traveled on around to see where the fire actually had burned. And on our way back down and has been my go-to just for giggles. I'll stop in a remote area like that and shut the rig down and I'll whoop. I don't know why. I don't know where I picked it up.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I don't even remember when I started doing it. But so we pull up there and I'm sorry, we're back at this area where all these trees were down. And I whoop and nothing. And so I get ready to start the Jeep back up and I hear a whoop. And I look at my wife who, like I mentioned, is she doesn't hear so good. And she heard it. And she goes, do that again. I'd goop again.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And this went back and forth for about 15 minutes. I'd whoop and then the awkward amount of time would go by, and I would get a reply, a whoop. And the reply whoop was getting farther and farther. The sound was the same. the distance was the same, but the length of time it was taking longer to respond.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And so again, I just chalked it up to, that's really weird. And I started, I went to start up the Jeep and the final whoop was loud enough to where I could hear it over the Jeep.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And then, so I look over out the window to this blowdown area. and this side of, I don't, I call it a blowdown area, but the tree line, this side of that area, this huge black object, human-shaped thing just darted out and went from my right to my left and gone. it just it was so fast just almost like a blur
Starting point is 00:43:56 and I've heard accounts of people saying they've had a rifle and tried to try to get a shot at one of these things and try to swing the rifle as fast as they could to try to get a shot and they couldn't keep up with it and that's exactly what this was I wouldn't believe
Starting point is 00:44:15 it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes it was just and it was right there it was throwing its voice off into the distance, making it sound like it was further away than it was. Oh, my goodness. But it was right there. Oh, wow. The speed of it was just what blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I was just, I couldn't believe something that big could move that quick. There wasn't any fear. It was just there. We were just having fun, whooping back and forth. No idea what I was saying to it. No smell, no nothing. Of course, it was far enough away that the wind would have been coming right at us to be able to smell it. But, yeah, it was, that was the first time I had actually seen something, heard them, smelled them.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But that's the first time I've actually seen them. Even that wasn't very clear. How far away from you both was it approximately? So it was up and inclined, but probably close to 50 feet. Wow. Okay. A lot closer to what I thought. I knew something was there. I didn't know what it was, but I knew something was there.
Starting point is 00:45:40 But I had no idea it was that close. It sounded like it was off in the distance. Like I said, it was throwing its voice or throwing the whoop away from us, but it was loud enough. to where you could still hear it. I don't know. To me, it showed intelligence. It didn't want to give itself up,
Starting point is 00:46:05 but it really makes me wonder because I started the Jeep and it whooped again, and we were getting ready to leave, so why blow your cover, so to speak? Because it was behind a grouping of trees to where I couldn't see it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It just makes me wonder anyway. Why blow your cover? Yeah, absolutely. So it's for listeners, so if we're talking like 50 feet, an example of that is like a little over half the length of a basketball court is what 50 feet is. Yeah. So you saw it run as a blur, you dart out. Were you able to get a sense of how tall, whatever you saw was? Not really, but like I said, it was on an incline. It was uphill from me. So I'm looking at it. up at it so maybe it looked bigger than it actually was, but I didn't go up there and measure. I didn't get out. I went home. So I knew actually laying eyes on something for realsies this time. All the sounds, all the weird stuff that's happened in the past, it's all
Starting point is 00:47:15 forming this picture. You can chalk up a lot of the experiences I've had to whatever when you actually see something moving like that and maybe it was a human whooping at me, but there is no human on planet Earth ever that could move like that. Zero. There is zero chance. Like I said, I've listened to guys recounts,
Starting point is 00:47:43 swinging a rifle at one and not being able to keep up, and that's exactly what this was. There was, if you would have drawn on this thing, there's no way you could have fired at it. Wild stuff. So this is now you're in the time where you've actually had a sighting of something, and there's no coming back from that, from what I've gathered talking to people over the years.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I haven't had that yet myself, but Eric, let's continue with what you've experienced as we go along here. Like I had mentioned earlier, that fire happened in 24. We had another fire at this. year wasn't near as aggressive. This late summer was
Starting point is 00:48:29 rainy, so it helped quell some of the fire danger, but it also brought in thunderstorms, which ignited some of the fires, and these firefighters up here have been doing an amazing job of getting on top of these fires very rapidly, and not getting them out, but unfortunately this, it called it the Foley Ridge fire. It got out of
Starting point is 00:48:53 got out of control. It got away from them. And several, a couple of days had gone by of this fire burning and it looked like they weren't going to get it out. And it had grown pretty aggressively over the course of two days. We live right near there. And so we thought we probably better get eyes on this. Because you don't want to be evacuating at a moment's notice. You want to to plan ahead. It was later in the evening. It was still daylight, but later in the evening, we went up to that area and pulled off the road, and it's pretty aggressive terrain, pretty thick, pretty thick brush. Again, you're in a mix of old growth dug fur and some younger dugged fur, and then, of course, there's other, lots of scrub brush and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:49:53 but you could see the fire off oh gosh probably eighth of a mile off the road as it inclines up the mountainside and fortunately it really didn't look as bad as what they were saying and we're relieved by that and we just
Starting point is 00:50:14 watched the choppers come in and bomb it and then it got towards evening and we're just, I wanted to get some pictures of it at night with my phone. I've got a nice phone and it has a night shot feature on it where you can get thermal. It doesn't have thermal imaging on it as far as I know, but it does take real good pictures of ambient light at night. So if there's any light out there, the phone picks up on it.
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Starting point is 00:52:58 subsequent nights and get updates and see how fast it's progressing. It's well after dark at this point. Fire crews had gone home. The choppers were long gone. And I let out a whoop like I always do. We're getting ready to go home.
Starting point is 00:53:19 So I let out a whoop. And way up above the fire to the left, where the fire had not gone yet. I'm standing outside the Jeep. Patty is my wife. She's sitting in the passenger seat. I let out the whoop.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And this huge Doug Fur, it was like within five seconds of me doing a whoop, this huge Doug Fur comes crashing down. And I turn around to look at, the wife and I'm just in shock. I asked her, did you hear that? And she's like, yes, I heard that. And I didn't get turned back around to the wood line
Starting point is 00:54:08 before the second huge Doug Fur got pushed down. I'd find out later that was pushed down. And so that was enough. That scared me. I was finally scared. we got out of there and we're talking about coincidences. What was that? And we both know that was outside the burn.
Starting point is 00:54:35 So it wasn't burned trees coming down. That was well outside where the fire was or even had been. So that didn't add up. And so we went back and I don't know how many days had passed. It may have been a day, maybe two days after that. We went back up just to check on the progress of the fire. Again, it's at night, right at dusk. And so I get some pictures, some night pictures of the fire.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And again, I whoop. And again, a tree comes down, again, within seconds after I whoop. and this was been the same approximate area where the other two trees came down.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It was outside the burn and another massive tree. And shortly after that there
Starting point is 00:55:37 was a whoop a reply that came back and as you're looking at the mountainside
Starting point is 00:55:43 it was to my right. The trees came down to my left up the mountainside. So the whoop came from my right.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And so I whooped back and got a whoop again to my right. And this went on back and forth for probably about 45 minutes. We did start working our way down because it was getting late. We did start working our way down the road. but as we were working down, I'd pull over and whoop and get a whoop back. And I had assumed it was firefighters up in there that were camped out up in there that were just messing around
Starting point is 00:56:35 like I was messing around. But we found out the next day that, no, the firefighters pull out before dark and go to their camp that was, I don't know, about five or six miles away. So there was nobody up in there. And that's when I realized that we got something for real zies going on here. And so I mentioned it to a friend of mine that I work with.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And he was very interested to experience this for himself. So I took him up there. This is again, several days later again we go up there and I whoop and this time I've got the camera rolling and just before
Starting point is 00:57:30 that you could hear something in the tree line I couldn't see it but you could hear something trying to be quiet moving through the tree line and I ask him do you hear that he hadn't heard it and I said
Starting point is 00:57:44 there's something in there and they tell him I'm going to whoop and so I whoop and another massive tree comes down and that was it, he'd have enough. It scared him. Absolutely. Go ahead. Let's, I think it'd be good. We can play that sound right now, actually.
Starting point is 00:58:06 You have, you provided the video audio for that. So I'm going to go ahead. We'll put it in here and so people can hear exactly what happened. There's something in there. I can hear it. You hear it yet? I'm going to work. Some wild stuff, man.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I can't imagine experiencing that in real life. That would be absolutely wild. The first couple of times it's a little disconcerting. This thing has to be massive. I couldn't imagine how big this thing has to be pushing trees like that down. If this has happened, I gosh, I lost count, but probably at least nine times, ten times now, maybe more. I'd go up there and I've taken a couple of different people up with me.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And it's shocking. It's shocking the first time it happens. It's hard to believe that it's actually happening. But I took a gentleman up there with me this last week. And he brought a large pit bull with him. And when we got in there, there wasn't really a whole lot of activity at first. I had heard some, we had heard some tree knocks, and I did a whoop like I was due, and a tree came down way off the distance.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And so we thought maybe we should move in that direction. And so we did. We got in our rigs and moved down in that direction. and I whooped again, and we're outside the rigs. It's pitch black. There's no moon, no stars. It's dark, absolutely dark. I'm at the rear of his rig, and he's outside the rig, and I can't hardly even see him.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's so dark. But he had his dog outside the rig, and within a literal minute or two, his dog was very anxious and wanted she was pawing out of him wanting back in the rig and so he verbalized out to me that his dog is very anxious and wants him back in the rig so he put her back in the rig
Starting point is 01:01:00 and she goes and sits in the front seat the driver's seat where she absolutely doesn't belong and I whoop and we heard some some noises. I don't know if it was a tree knock or some sort of
Starting point is 01:01:20 popping sound anyway. But then for the first time I heard feet stomping. You could tell this thing was huge, but it was off in the distance, but it was like
Starting point is 01:01:35 six steps just stomping hard into the ground up on the hillside. so this thing was evidently not happy. There was a dog present is what I read it as. Maybe not. I don't know, but that's the first time anything like that has ever happened where it's stomped. But I think, honestly, I think they're moving out of the area.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I went up there this weekend. I went up there. Of course, we had a storm moving in. and so it's hard to hear with the wind and the rain coming down. It was raining pretty aggressively, but it's hard to hear, so I might have missed something, but I've gone up there two nights now and haven't heard anything. And so I'm thinking they're moving out, because the sounds were getting further and further off in the distance,
Starting point is 01:02:37 and the fire is, I'm assuming it has to be out by now with all. the rain that we've been getting. There might be a few smokers out there, but for the most part, the fire's out. But I have to really kind of wonder, these things seem to be attracted to these fires.
Starting point is 01:02:56 And I don't know if they're just keeping an eye on them, or we had fire crews out there, we had helicopters bombing. Is it the human attention to the fire that they're watching or are they watching a fire? I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:03:18 They seem to be around these fires. Not sure. I don't know what your thoughts are on it. Eric, I completely agree with you. So just for example, Oak Ridge, the first year I was in Oak Ridge, we had those fires really close to Oak Ridge. And the activity was wild out in the woods that was being experienced. This last year, a little bit of activity, but not. nearly as much. So I think when you have a fire involved, it really can kick off the things that you experience. And if you're going out, if listeners are going out when there's fires
Starting point is 01:03:55 around, be careful of those, but also be aware you could find yourself in a really interesting situation like Eric has been experiencing where whooping and then have a tree get pushed over one time. That's a coincidence. But like nine to ten times, that's not a coincidence. That is something that's just completely wild. That's within a very short time of the whoop. And there's been there's been times in that exact same area where all whoop tree comes down and then we hear owls all over the place like the proverbial 800 pound owl. They're on the hillside on up the mountain to the right to the left and then we're hearing them behind us.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So we've got them all around us. And there was one night I have audio of that as well, that these things just wouldn't stop. They were seemingly upset about something. I can't say that I was really that concerned about, I wasn't scared. It's not like they're projecting fear or anything. But that night that that thing stomped off.
Starting point is 01:05:12 that's a pretty clear indication that the guy's upset. Sure. Absolutely. That got me a little concerned. Pushing the trees down off in the distance, that's impressive. That's impressive, but scary. Yeah, it scared me the first time or two, but after that, it's old hat, as they say. But if he wanted to, he could push a tree down on us.
Starting point is 01:05:38 He didn't. Yeah. Absolutely. There was no rock throwing. No smell, no whistling, no dead whoop. Got whoops back, but other than that, you can hear them going through the brush. You can tell they're trying to be stealthy,
Starting point is 01:05:58 but you can still hear them. Eric, it's really some fascinating encounters you've been having over the years, and I would say please continue to keep us in the loop if you do continue to have things going on, And even if you don't, that's data too, if things stop and then they start up in half a year or something. But thank you so much for coming on the show today and sharing what you've experienced in a really active area of Oregon and just a really beautiful area as well. Hey, thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:34 It's my pleasure. I enjoyed sharing. Definitely not going out looking for this. This stuff is just out there happening. and I'm going to keep on, keeping on. Definitely going camping. And I think the more remote you get, probably the more you're going to be in their area.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And as long as you're not a threat to them, I don't think they're going to be a threat to you. And you never know. I don't purport to understand the psychology of these things. But I live next to 1.7 million acres of forest land, old Doug fur, old growth, to you name it it's out here
Starting point is 01:07:16 rough terrain beautiful country like you said that's why I'm here but yeah the main thing is camping I love getting out there
Starting point is 01:07:24 I'm gonna keep on keeping on excellent thank you again Eric all righty sir have a good day before we wrap this episode I want to say
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