Bigfoot Society - Ozarks Horror: Something Towered Over Us!
Episode Date: September 19, 2025What happens when two hunters head into the Arkansas wilderness expecting a peaceful night under the stars — and instead feel the breath of something massive just outside their tent? In this terrify...ing episode, we hear from Joe, a long-time outdoorsman whose solo trips through Arkansas and Idaho took a turn for the inexplicable. From a silent, towering presence that shook him to the core, to a green tree branch ripped six feet high in the Idaho backcountry, Joe’s stories are chilling, detailed, and unforgettable. You’ll hear about stone markers, guttural breathing that rattled his chest, and an overwhelming silence that made even the raccoons stay away. Locations include the Ozarks of Arkansas, Snake River near Palisades Reservoir, and the eerie woods of South Missouri. If you think Bigfoot is just a campfire story — this episode will change your mind.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.
From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
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All right, Bickford Society.
You've got the privilege of talking to Joe today.
Joe is a listener of the show.
He's experienced some really interesting things in different states among the years.
But thank you for coming on the show today.
Joe, how's it going, sir?
You're welcome.
It's going great.
It's a very nice day here in Missouri.
Absolutely.
You know, I'm excited to hear more about what.
you've experienced. I know we'll be talking about some some different states that usually
have some really interesting things happen in those states. So feel free, Joe, to take us back
as far as you need to when you started to have some of these interactions with Bigfoot.
Okay, so we'll start with Arkansas because that was pretty much the very first
state. I was born on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, but I've lived most of my life in central Arkansas.
So we had a bunch of us were truck drivers at the time. So there's like seven of us that decided to lease some property from a paper company in north central Arkansas up in the Ozarks.
and we leased
it was right at 500 acres of land
and I don't really want to say
where that's at because
we still have that lease
and I don't want anybody
trying to go in there and then get hurt
and then try to see it's kind of a legal thing
you can understand that
but so north central Arkansas
we hunted there for years, and I was what they called a rescue driver.
So I would sit at home with my truck for weeks on in.
If somebody's truck broke down, I might run all the way to California
and pick up their trailer and deliver their load from them.
So I only work, you know, maybe one or two weeks a month.
So I would go up to this property and I would stay there for weeks at a time by myself.
I bow hunter.
I was an avid bow hunter, deer hunter.
Everything was great.
This property we had was a pine forest on top of a mountain in the Ozarks.
We had two very nice creeks at the bottom of the mountains.
Just beautiful.
They were full little stream.
by us and
brim and stuff like that.
You could go fish.
We would go camp in the summertime.
Never had any issues.
I would love to be up there by myself
and just camp out.
Well, then they started putting in
natural gas pipelines.
And that's kind of when things got started.
So right outside of our main gate,
there's a natural fire break, a trail, that I went up there one weekend in October.
This was in 2014.
And I'm going up there to make sure everybody's ready for deer season.
I'm off, they're on the road that are all over the country.
So I go put corn in their feeders, make sure they're staying.
are good and I'm up there by myself with a bow and I go down this one fire
break that borders our property and I noticed there's like these three really
large rocks stacked on top of each other right in the middle of the path and
I thought that was odd and I was like somebody's trying to sneak in on our
property and they're using this as a marker on where they need to turn and go into their
stand but as a look to the right there's a there's an old oak tree that had been
fallen down probably for 10 or 12 years just laying on the ground I'm like why would
somebody need a marker when all they have to do is walk down the trail and see the old
oak tree so they know where to turn.
It didn't make any sense.
So I just, I kind of took my foot and I pushed over those stacked rocks.
And I went on and checked everybody's stands and I went to where we had a campsite
on the very top of the mountain.
And I didn't even bring a tent.
I was just going to sleep in my truck for the night.
But I made a small campfire, made me a sand.
sandwich pulled out a bag of chips, eat my dinner, and I was just about ready to go to bed.
And the most god-awful scream you ever heard come from, like, I think it come from where those pipelines peed together,
because it made like an interstate through the mountains, through the woods.
And every hair on my body raised up, I've never heard anything like that before,
especially not out there.
I put my campfire out, I got in my truck, and I left.
Because I'm thinking, I'm out here all by myself with a bow and arrow.
Nobody knows where I'm at.
I'm way out in the middle of these mountains.
So I leave.
I go find a hotel at one of the closest towns, too.
And I stay in my hotel all night,
and I say I'm not going back there until daylight.
So at daylight, I got up.
I drove back to camp.
Someone, one of our friends, just for,
Just so we won't give his name away, I'll call him Bob.
One of the guys that came in during the middle of the night with his camper trailer,
and he usually brings the camper trailer in around October and then doesn't take it out until December.
Well, on my way in to hunt, I noticed that his camper trailer was there, so he must be on a stand.
I went and hunted that morning unsuccessfully, and I didn't see anything.
As I'm coming back out, I notice he's at his camper, so I stopped and talk to him.
And I tell him about what I heard the night before.
And he's like, it's funny you should mention that.
He goes, last year when nobody was up here and I was here by myself, I was laying
in my camper and it sounded
like a freight train came
through the woods
and it stopped right at the back
of my camper and I never heard
another noise.
He's the
only one that doesn't laugh at me
about believing at Bigfoot
but
so to get back to my story
two weekends
later
Arkansas has a special
modern arm season, it's only like for one weekend.
And it's just to kill a dough.
It's kind of like a deprivation hunt.
So me and a friend decide we're going to go up there
and we're going to try to kill some meat for the freezer
before the actual season opens.
So this time we have his tent,
and it's like a Coleman pop-up tent,
cabin tent.
So at the very
center of it, it's like
six foot tall.
So you can
stand up in it and get dressed,
but it sets up really quick
and tears down really quick.
So we had set
this tent up and we
went out scouting around, picked
out where we wanted
to hunt for the next morning.
Well, we had
rain moving in.
It was very cloudy that night and it was supposed to rain the next day, but we wanted to hunt the morning before the strong storms got there.
So once again, built a little campfire.
They had a radio on, and then we got ready.
We were like, okay, let's go to bed and get some rest.
We got to get up early and go hunting.
we put out the campfire
we both crawled into the tent
and I'm right there
on that edge of sleep
you know you get to where that edge of sleep
well you're like
you're not completely asleep
but you're not awake either
and I felt him
tapped my legs
and I was like
what
and he goes
listen
and whenever I came
awake, I could hear this guttural breathing. It wasn't growling. It was like a really fat, drunk
guy snoring almost. I mean, I can't describe it the way this breathing was, but every time it
breathed out, it rattled my chest.
I could feel it in my chest.
And it was maybe 10 foot behind our tent.
But you know how you can hear
when someone that's talking from the left
or the right or over here,
this thing was above our tent.
It was taller than our tent.
And it must have had the biggest,
chest cavity of anything I've ever heard.
It was not a bear.
If it had to have been a bear,
it had to have been like
one of those Yukon Gold giant
brown bears or something, and it had
to have been standing up on its feet.
Both of our weapons
were still in my truck in bags
unloaded.
Like I said, it was very
cloudy rain was coming in.
It was
very dark. There was no moon.
There was no stars.
And we're just laying there
and pitch
dark blackness.
The only thing
I could think was I
had a pocket knife.
And so I pulled
my pocket knife out and I
opened it up.
And I had a death grip on
that pocket knife. And I laid it on
chest. I say, well, if this thing is going to get us, it's not going to go down without a fight.
I've never been so scared of anything in my entire life. At the time, I was 43 years old. I've never
heard anything like that, and it's right there. It's right outside the tip. So about 15 or 20
minutes goes by, it never touches the tent, it never throws anything at us, it never makes any noise
other than the breathing. And then you slowly start to hear the breathing going away, like it's walking
away. And it's a pine forest, so there's pine needles are covered ground, so it's not like it's
like you have dry leaves where you can hear footprints walking away.
It just kind of disappears.
And we end up falling asleep.
Somewhere around 4 or 5 a.m., I wake up,
I had to go to the bathroom.
So I just do what I normally do.
throw my cover off of me and I start crawling towards the age of the tent.
And I'm just about to unzip the tent when I realize I still have the knife in my hand.
And that brings back, okay, what just happened?
And so I freeze and I just start listening to everything around me.
And I can hear the breathing again, but it's not behind our.
tent it's it sounds like it's across the logging road that we drove in on and I
know what's across that road it's a bunch of it's kind of like a small thicket
very thick dense brush growed up and it sounded like it was behind that and so
once again I told myself I am not getting out of this tent until day
light until I can see what is going on, especially without a gun in my hand.
So somehow I managed to lay back down and go to sleep.
The next thing I know, the sun was up, and I'll wake up, and I look at my friend,
and he's waking up, and we just kind of look at each other.
we crawl over, unzipped the tent.
The first thing we do is run to the truck,
grab both of our rifles,
load them up,
and then we'll use the bathroom.
We hunted that morning unsuccessfully,
did not see any deer whatsoever again,
which is unusual for that place.
The rain started picking up
and storms were moving in,
went back and we broke down that campsite and left.
And on our way out, the only thing I ever said to him was, you know that wasn't a bear
right?
And he said, yeah.
But he was still kind of in shock because I don't think he's ever been a believer in these
things.
So that was Arkansas, and we still have that property there.
though the paper company has come in, they cut down the pine trees about three years ago,
and they planted new ones.
There is still deer there, but I have not camp there or been back since my incident.
Well, I went back one time in the daylight to drive around and see where they cut everything down,
but we moved to Idaho a couple of months after.
that and I was lucky enough I got to go to I live just north of Pocatello
Idaho so I got to meet Dr. Jeff Milgram and Cliff Brockman at one of the
Bigfoot conferences there in Pocatello. It was a great day and I talked with
Dr. Jeff Noveram about the stack rocks and things
and he is very, very smart, very scientific.
He applies the scientific method to everything.
And when I talked to him about the stacked rocks,
he was like, well, can you prove that Bigfoot stack those up?
And I go, no, I cannot.
He knows that's right.
We can't prove that Bigfoot stacks rocks.
We can't prove that they make structures.
We can't prove anything.
because we don't have somebody like Jane Goodall to go out there and, you know,
live the family of them and watch them, and the scientific mythics says that we have to
witness this behavior around them to be able to know that they were the ones who did it,
although I don't know anyone else who would do it, but that's just,
science just because you believe a man murdered somebody does not mean he did unless
you actually seen there and have proof so then the very next year after I got to
meet with them and talked to them a deer hunting trip I had in Idaho once again
I'm by myself out in the middle of the mountains so I've always noticed these deer
where I fish at up on the mountain so I decided hey I'll give that a try and see if there's anything there in the fall
so I parked at my fishing spot on the Snake River very beautiful heavy trout river
I left my truck and just started walking up the mountain
I got up to a ridge that I could oversee that
It had a small, what would you call it?
It was like a small creek coming out of the side of the mountain.
Just a little bit of water and it looked like deer had been in there using that for water
instead of going down to the river.
And I looked up on the ridge and there was a whitetail buck up there.
I was like, man, I got in here too late because I don't go in the river.
the woods that dark anymore.
But the deer, he
cuts over into this
heavy stuff and I'm like, well,
maybe there's a trail up there.
So I walked up, sure enough,
there's a big game trail up there.
And I started
following the game trail
to the west
walking right along the side of the
mountain.
I came upon the
track that I sent you the picture of.
And I wouldn't even sure if it was a real track or not.
And then I took about five more steps and I come out into this wash in between two
mountains where the snow melt and all the rain runs down.
And that's what you'll see on the picture of the tree.
And it's really hard packed, mostly rock, a lot of stuff.
sage brush, things like that.
But then I've seen this tree and it has a limb ripped off of it.
It's a completely green, live tree.
If you've ever built a campfire, you know, you can break dead sticks.
They break right away.
I'm sorry.
If you break a green one, the bark doesn't just break.
you got to kind of like strip it off.
And that's what I was seeing on this tree limb.
And it wasn't, I mean, 15 yards away from the print that I've seen.
And I walked up to the tree and curiosity had got the best of me.
So I started doing circles around the tree, looking for that tree lamb.
and I'm thinking
what could have broke it off
even if it was a storm
it would have just snapped off
and it would still be hanging by
some of that green bark
or
you know
maybe somebody walked up
this way and broke it off
and threw it down
but I walked circles
around that tree up to about
20 yards out
I never found that tree land
and if you look
at the picture
taking a picture
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main game trail. It's easier for the elk and the deer to move up and down the mountain
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And I started thinking to myself, you know, I've heard of them building structures and
bedding and stuff.
Maybe it tore this limb off and took it up there.
But here we go again.
I'm by myself in the middle of the mountains, and no one knows where I'm at.
So I did not pursue it any farther.
I turned and walked down the wash.
back to the logging road coming in beside the river and went back to my truck.
Joe, real quick, I'm looking at the photo right now, but how tall off the ground would you estimate that break to be?
That break was probably about six and a half foot.
I mean, it would be easy for me to reach up there and grab that limb, but it was about two.
inches in diameter, I don't think I could have snapped that off.
It's, yeah, it is definitely a sizable branch.
I would agree with you on, on that estimate of how wide around it is.
And, I mean, you can see the trail pretty close to it, too.
Yeah, and the footprint was actually pointed in that direction where I came out onto that
wash. It was like right on the side of it. It was like the only possible place you could have
actually made a footprint was right there because everything else was either overgrown or it was
rock. It was like that was the only place that had a little bit of uncompacted dirt. You know what I
I mean, and I'll put it on social media, and I've got slammed for it.
Why is there only one print?
Oh, it looks like a cow, or it could have been a bare double step.
I'm not saying it's big foot.
It just got my curiosity aroused.
It was there, and then, you know, a few yards from it,
I have this tree with this limb ripped off.
I don't know.
It is very weird.
And you said on the Snake River, right?
Yes.
It was right outside of a Palisades Reservoir.
We live not far from there.
We live like an hour and a half, hour and 45 minutes from Yellowstone Park.
We lived right there by Wyoming and Montana Line.
So if you bring up a Palisades Reservoir, it's going to be right there on the Wyoming line.
Oh, absolutely.
Because you've got Palisades, but then you've also got Swan Valley right there, right?
Yep.
And this was to the south of Swan Valley.
There's a dirt road that goes up on the south side of the Snake River there at Swan Valley.
And it was off to the south on one of those before you get to the airport.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, this location has come up on the show before.
It was back in episode 814.
There were a ton of accounts that were shared.
There's been a lot of things that have happened around Palisades Reservoir over the years,
going back to late 90s, site.
and tracks and multiple tracks, screams, roars, being growled at.
So I am not actually even things that sounded like the Sierra sounds.
So I'm not surprised that if that's where you're doing, you're hunting, that you're finding stuff like that.
I mean, it is a really active spot in Idaho.
I wish I would have known that while I live there.
I might have done a little bit more investigated.
Right.
There you go.
There you go.
I mean, yeah, you never know.
That's why I've been trying to put this map together I have on my website of all, like, the different encounters I've taken over the years.
Because it's like some places you would have no idea unless you have access to the information.
This place in Idaho, I mean, you have, this is a very popular trout fishing location.
Okay.
You have, like, homes that are along that dirt road.
You have, you know, people's vacation homes.
They have, you know, trout hunters and lodges and stuff like that.
And the footprint and the tree was like, I don't know, maybe a quarter of a mile behind them.
I mean, you wouldn't think it would be that close to civilization, but it's, you wouldn't think it would be that close to civilization,
but it is.
Absolutely.
It is weird when you start to see stuff in civilized area,
but I don't think it's out of the question for sure.
When you lived in that area,
did you ever talk to any neighbors to see if,
you know,
they had ever seen any weird stuff
or things like that around the reservoir?
I do.
I have stickers on my truck,
and, you know, sometimes I've got a big tattoo
on the back of my leg of Bigfoot
and people talk to me and talk to me
and that's why I do it so that I can learn things.
Not everybody talks, you know, what we are now.
They don't, they're kind of scared
that people are going to laugh at them.
I don't care if people laugh at me.
I'm not saying that it's 100% true.
I'm asking a question.
you know what what did you run into what happened to you and i have had several people
talked to me about their experiences uh some of them in idaho one one guy that i actually worked
with said that something threw a rock at his head about the size of the softball and it hit a tree
right in front of him and it hit so hard that it sounded like
like a gun going off, and he got scared and ran out of there and got back to his truck and left,
and he's never been back.
He also had extremely good pictures on his phone of a trackway that he found in Washington,
where his parents lived, and I thought that was very interesting.
Not really sure.
I said, I'm just telling you what happened to me.
me.
And as far as the one in Arkansas goes, like I say, I've never been more scared of anything
in my life, but it didn't try to attack me.
It didn't do anything.
It was like it was more curious than anything.
It just kind of stood behind the tent and watched stuff.
And the odd thing is we had a lot of raccoons there in Arkansas.
Big ones.
They would run up and still.
the chips out of your hand while you were eating them.
They were brave.
But my buddy had left an open bag of chitos on the chair when we went to bed.
And part of the sandwich, nothing came to our campground that night and took anything.
If it would have been a bear, I could see it stealing food.
Raccoons, yeah.
but nothing was touched.
Even when we went and hunting the next morning and come back and broke the camp down,
everything was still there.
There had been no animals around our campground for that entire time.
You know, bringing up the Arkansas situation,
I did have a few questions for you about that.
And I know it sounded like you weren't really in the mindset.
that next morning to go looking around at stuff just because you were like, get the weapon, use the facilities, right?
But did you notice, like, anything out of the ordinary, like any tracks on the ground or that was just totally out of your mind?
Well, I did try to look for something around the campground, but it's a pine forest.
And like I said, everything is completely covered with pine needles.
So you really don't get any, like, crushed down brush or footprints in the mud or anything like that.
It's just a really thick layer of dead pine needles.
So that being said, we wouldn't really hanging out that much, you know, to do that much looking.
We kind of loaded our rifles, got in the truck, drove on down to the other end of our count.
and a hundred a little bit until it started ringing,
and then we come back,
just broke everything down and left as quick as possible.
Gotcha.
When you were there during that time,
besides the very, just the strange breathing noise,
did you guys hear any other sounds that were,
that didn't really fit the area,
anything else strange that you were hearing?
Yeah, there was nothing.
nothing
no birds
no frogs
no crickets
everything
was completely
silent
except for that
and I've been asked
well did you see a shadow
on the tent
well no because the moon
went out
the stars went out
it was cloudy
it was like
laying in pitch darkness
just listening
to something right behind you
and that's all you can hear
Wow. At any time were there any trees or stick breaks or maybe trees getting,
or sounded like trees fell, anything like that?
No, nothing. No coyotes. And we have a lot of coyotes up there.
And usually as soon as the sun goes down, you can hear the packs running, chasing rabbits or whatever they're doing.
We heard nothing.
nothing whatsoever.
Wow.
Wow.
So it sounds like you, the way you're explaining it, it sounds like you're in that, that overpowering silence where it's like so, there's nothing.
And it's just, I don't know if you've ever experienced that where it's like, it's hard to think because it is so, so quiet.
Yeah.
And I was panicked.
I really was.
I was gripping that pocket knife.
And I don't understand how I fell asleep because, I mean, almost as immediately as we stopped hearing it, I was out.
I fell asleep and I didn't wake up until I needed to go to the restroom.
Most people would have been panicking and go, okay, it's gone, let's get in our truck, let's go.
We fell asleep and slept the whole night.
That is the thing.
You hear that, you hear that a lot in these.
And it's just, it's just one of those weird things you just cannot explain.
Not even any owls in the area?
No, nothing.
That is just, that's a freaky night, dude.
My goodness.
Wow.
So you've had that in Arkansas, and then the things you found in Idaho,
is that the last time that you,
you've experienced anything out of the ordinary, or have there been things where you are currently
as well?
Well, I haven't been able to get back out there here lately the past couple of years.
They've had to put me on disability.
I was an iron worker and a welder and everything.
My back's gotten bad.
Hopefully, the end of September, I'll get my last back surgery so that I can get back out there.
so I haven't been able to hunt or do anything like that in a couple of years.
But I'm hoping to get back out there.
We still have that property in Arkansas.
The guys are wanting me to come back down and hunt with them.
After I get my back surgery, I'm hoping next year I will actually be able to get back down there into Arkansas.
This time it's not just going to be hunting for deer.
You know, it's going to be looking.
and seeing if there's any signs or, you know, you go through stuff like that,
it makes you look at things differently.
It really does.
I used to love the woods.
I would be on my tree stand at least a half hour before daylight,
and it's just magic out in the woods.
You hear the birds wake up, the squirrels start coming down,
right at daylight the forest starts looking up all the animals are getting out it's it's purely
magic yeah i don't do that anymore i am not going into the woods unless it's daylight um
i have to be able to see what's around me i really do um i get scared uh the woods aren't the same
anymore, not like they used to be.
And I think if people ever experience anything like I did, they're not going to be the
same for you either.
You're going to look at them differently.
It is, it's a weird experience.
I don't think, I think it's hard for people to understand that.
And until they get in a situation like you've been in where you experience that thing
that is just extremely strange and is just a strange.
and has just affected the rest of your life.
Now, is it okay to mention where your current state is?
Yes.
Okay.
We just recently moved to Jefferson City, Missouri.
Gotcha.
So you're down in Missouri.
Now, you have the tattoo on the back of your leg.
You can't really get rid of that.
So you have at least some form of a big foot falling you around.
Have you gotten people down there that have been like, hey, I've had stuff happened down here.
here too. Yes, absolutely. I went to the Ozark Big Perret conference last year. I was hoping to go again
this year, but just with medical conditions, I just can't get down there. But that was in
Springfield, Missouri last year. And I talked to one other guy that was in the audience. And he was
kind of a believer, but he didn't know what to believe.
And I talked to him in the audience, and he said that he was there.
He got elected from his small town in South Missouri to come there and learn about it
because they had so many occurrences there.
Like, they've seen them coming out of their sheds in their barns and stuff and around,
off into the woods
and I was trying to talk to him
I told him my story a little bit
and then
they sent everybody to lunch
well when we come back from
lunch I really wanted to talk to him
and find out what town this was
that he had left and
he didn't come back
I've also
ran into people at
grocery stores
and things like that
will say, oh, or, you know, you have a Bigfoot hunter, and I go, well, I'm kind of a researcher, or what do you got?
And they'll tell me, you know, one time when I was a kid, this happened.
And so, yeah, it's a great way to meet people.
And I believe the most important thing we can do as far as researchers or Bigfoot community is listen to what other people.
people have seen done.
Like I say, we're not going to get to go out there and live with the family of
Bigfoot and see what they do and record it all down.
So our best information comes from people like me, people that have seen something,
they've had something happen to them, and then maybe somebody on your show hears about it
and go, hey, you know what, that happened to me too.
and so maybe they'll make a report of it.
And so we can start gathering this information up
little by little and go,
hey, this guy over here in St. Louis said this
and that matches the same thing
of this guy over in Pennsylvania.
I mean, that's how we're getting our information
of how they behave and what they do.
I think that's a great idea.
And the other interesting thing is,
I mean, there are people that say they have, I mean, that they are, I guess not to the extent of Dr. Jane Goodall, but that they have them on their property and it's like a habituation thing going on.
But, yeah, it's interesting when you listen to all the accounts, you know, and maybe not, maybe not kick some to the side, right?
And as you're saying, you know, kind of listen to everything that's going out there at all parts of the U.S. and actually the world, really.
I mean, there's stuff we can hear from other countries that applies to the U.S. situation as well.
Yeah.
I mean, there's just those little small things that somebody might tell you a story of something they've seen,
and there's one little small part of it that matches with somebody else's story,
and it matches with somebody else's story,
and so that we can get to build a picture of it.
I mean, like you would do if you were, say, a murder investigator,
and you went out and interviewed everybody,
and you found that one little thing that ties everything together.
And that's kind of what I think is.
I love listening to people's stories.
I really love hearing their sightings because it gives us just that one little bit more of information every day.
Absolutely, Joe.
And that's part of why I do what I do too.
The main part is to give people a place to share where they don't have to worry about, you know, being made fun of or anything like that.
But it is also, it's a learning experience for me as well.
But, you know, it has been fun talking to you this afternoon, Joe.
I want to make sure that, you know, you were able to share everything that you came on the show to share today.
Yeah, I think that's about it.
I'm just ready to get surgery done.
I'm ready to get back out there and put some boots on the ground and, you know, see what we can find next.
Absolutely.
Well, once you're able to do so, and if you do run into some other things, you know, please reach out.
We'd love to hear from you again and hear any updates further down the road.
But thanks so much for coming on the show today, Joe.
Absolutely.
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