Bigfoot Society - Police Officer's Terrifying Sasquatch Standoff

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

In this episode, I bring you an incredible encounter story that will leave you on the edge of your seat. Join me as I hear from Sean, a retired police officer, who had a spine-tingling standoff with a... Sasquatch during his vacation at his family cabin in Northern Michigan, close to the town of Glennie. This encounter took place in the mid 1990s, and is one of the most intense and thrilling stories I've had the privilege of recording so far.Get ready to hear firsthand from Sean about his heart-pumping encounter and the fear that gripped him during the standoff. I promise, you won't be able to stop listening. It's a story that will leave you questioning the mysteries of the wilderness and what really lurks within.So grab your headphones and tune in to this exciting episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Trust me, you won't be able to resist reacting the same way I did after hearing this chilling encounter. If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast? Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!

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Starting point is 00:01:27 or it's going to rip me apart. Welcome to the Bigfoot Society podcast. In this episode, we talked to Sean, retired police officer who had a stunning Sasquatch encounter in Northern Michigan that he won't soon forget, and I'm sure you won't either. Happened to Sean when he came face-to-face with the Sasquatch
Starting point is 00:01:59 and what steps did he have to take to get out of their life. Find out this and more on this week's episode of Biggestaq. Society. All right, I've got Sean with us tonight. He does have a encounter to share. How are we doing tonight? Sean? I'm doing very well. How are you doing tonight? Oh, I'm doing great. We are hanging out in Iowa out here, gearing up for maybe some snow tomorrow, but it's always a great night when I'm able to talk to someone about what they have experienced to help listeners figure out what they've experienced too. But Sean, go right ahead and let's start chatting.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So fill me in what we've got, what we had happened to you here. Well, November, it was on the 13th in 1993. We were what turned out to be the last trip to the hunting cabinet, my dad, my uncle Mick built after World War II in Guany, Michigan. I'd gotten up about a week early. I had planned on doing some fishing and some bow hunting before rifle season started. So I was up by myself. And usually the first guy there gets to cut the wood and do things like that. And it was really, it was nothing unusual, you know, going on.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And I had come up from Arizona. I was born and raised here about my mom's family. was from Michigan and you know so we had a lot of connections back there and that was just an area where my my dad kind of fell in love with too um but anyway um so i had been up doing the chores and um you know like and it was just um things started feeling a little strange it wasn't um it wasn't like I could really put my finger on anything, but, you know, and I'd been a police officer by this time for nearly five years. So I had a, what I would consider to be kind of a heightened sense of awareness when things were watching me or things were strange and it just felt off. So, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:44 But otherwise it was normal, if that makes any sense. When you said it fell off, I find that really interesting. Can you describe like what felt off about the situation? It felt like I was being watched not in a predatory way. I'm a real big believer in pheromones and chemical reactions because I haven't been a police officer I've been around predatory and feral humans for about five years and I was pretty well
Starting point is 00:05:28 convinced by that time and the consensus was when they're giving off pheromones you know our bodies are hardware to pick that up from years and years of survival and, you know, the prehistoric, you know, instinctive, things like that. You know, so you develop that sense and everybody has it. It just felt like there was something around that was watching me. It felt like the hairs in the back of my neck would stand up every once in a while
Starting point is 00:06:07 if I was facing away from the tree line. And I, it's a really coniferous forested area up there. It's a lot of pine, very, very thick. So you can't really see into the tree line much more than a few feet. But I didn't see any movement, didn't hear any movement,
Starting point is 00:06:30 but I felt like I was being watched if that makes any sense at all. It's just, it was a feeling, that I had. It wasn't, I know some people talk about, what do they call it, mind speak, you know, things like that where they're being communicated with. It was none of that. It was purely biological. So I don't know if that helps, but it's the best way that I can describe it. As I had to go to court, that's what I would say. It was just a gut feeling. there were no smells
Starting point is 00:07:09 you know I remember there was nothing smelled odd you know very tiny very you know and it was November so you know there's a lot of leaf cover on the ground and you know so the leaves were damp they were wet you know see that smell
Starting point is 00:07:26 it just it smelled normal you know there was nothing that I could put my finger on that any sense that were out of out of whack How far away, how far in the woods is this location just for people that might not be able, or that might not be familiar with the town that you had mentioned? Okay. It's about, it's the crow flies about 15 miles outside of the town itself.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But off the main road, it's about four and a half miles. and it's all two-track old fire lane and like residentially cleared roadways so you're you're responsible to keep your own roadways open to the to your properties down there and there were back then I don't know how many would be there now but back then maybe between the road and where we the main road and where we were for a gap four other cabins.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So it was really remote. And we only had about a half acre cleared where the trees had been cut down. So very, very thick. And that's about where we were. I can already tell that whatever you experienced affected you in a way that has not affected everyone that I've talked to so far. You definitely, this is going to be a very interesting story for sure. Well, I mean, it doesn't feel like a lot of people try to attach
Starting point is 00:09:15 like PTSD to it and things of that nature. It wasn't that. It was more looking back, it's kind of a sense of wonderment. It was, it's like, oh, now I can look back 30 years later ago. That's really cool. because I've always been not necessarily interested in, quote, unquote, Bigfoot or the, you know, that whole thing. It's like, yeah, I saw it on in search of when I was a kid, okay. But it was never really much more than a passing interest.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But so when I saw it, it was like, wow, you know, they were, they were right. These things were real. so but but I mean it's open up it's it's open my mind to possibilities that I didn't think were there before you know and I and I tend to be an open-minded skeptic I want to be able to see it touch it feel it as far as evidence goes I don't take anyone's word for anything unless there's corroborating evidence to to support it so um that was like the corroborative evidence that I needed once I had seen it. But anyway, so yeah, it was about three days.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And, you know, things were, things were just being, I just felt like I'd been watched. But as I said before, you know, no sounds, no smells. There was nothing that wasn't in place. you know, everything just seemed normal other than that. But, you know, so I'd been, anyway, I'd been cutting wood and doing all the chores. And, you know, we had a shooting range at the cabin. And, you know, so I wanted to make sure that my rifle was zeroed in. And I wanted to make sure that my pistol was zeroed into the ammo that I brought
Starting point is 00:11:27 because I was actually going to hunt with my pistol. and so I set up to target and I started to shoot and I don't know I probably fired five rounds out of my rifle and you know verified that it was zeroed in I think I fired you know if I remember correct I fired like one magazine out of my my pistol and was a Glock 20 10 millimeter and you know it was it was I think and it did you know it did you stupid little details. They keep coming back, but it was, you know, hit an inch high, which, you know, would have been perfect.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Because a long shot up there, because the woods are so dense, maybe 25 yards. I think the longest shot I ever made on a deer was probably closer to 30. And, you know, that was over hunting there since I was 14 years old. But what stands out is when I got done,
Starting point is 00:12:31 I heard, as I was packing up, I heard like an, it was a drawn out, breathy, like, it started off, like, it was coming out of someone's stomach, the sound. And it had a really distinct F sound at the end. And, you know, I just, that just kind of stopped me dead in my tracks. you know, I had to look around and I, you know, and I couldn't see anything. And it was weird because I thought, you know, wow, it's a bear. You know, and we had bear up there, but, you know, I've only ever seen one. I'd seen tracks.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'd seen scat, but I hadn't really seen the bear. So, and it was the first thing that was, and I got to thinking, you know, like there's nothing out here that makes a sound with an F sound at the end. You know, it's a symbol. sound you need you need you know humanoid lips to be able to make that sound but anyway you know I put that out I'm like okay you know finish finish what I'm doing I cleaned up and it was about oh halfway back to the cabin and it was only like 40 or 50 feet that surrounded it and came from another side of me then I heard it again you know like move
Starting point is 00:13:59 and now I figured somebody was messing with me you know I went in you know my my investigative brain turned on I'm like all right now there's somebody's got to be out there so I yelled and you know I don't want to you know the profanity that I yelled but you know I told them all right they've been to show themselves
Starting point is 00:14:19 or you know things were things were going to get ugly and nothing did and I moved a little bit more and then I started hearing like really distinct heavy footfalls. And they were going away from me and definitely bipedal.
Starting point is 00:14:37 You know, you know, quadruth had animals tend to be much more even when they're moving through heavy brush. You might hear the brush, but you don't really hear the footfalls because they're, you know, more of a gentle footed animal.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I mean, even my horse. You know, my horses are walking. They're, you know, you can hear the crops, but you don't. it doesn't stop almost.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And that was the sound. But there's also the part of me that's saying, okay, boots, they're heavy hunting boots, you know, either teenagers up here, schooling around or,
Starting point is 00:15:16 you know, whatever it was. I was trying to find that logical, this is what it is, definitive in my brain, you know, eliminating other possibilities. so I was
Starting point is 00:15:29 excuse me really just thinking that it was a human being but yeah it just but it got quiet after that I went in the cabin
Starting point is 00:15:44 you know fix myself some lunch and at some point I had kind of followed a slave I was you know to sit in my chair and it wasn't long after that
Starting point is 00:15:58 it was just a I heard of boom, a really, really loud boom that startled me awake. And I was disarranted enough. I didn't know. I mean, obviously I didn't know what it was. I knew it wasn't a gunshot. And then I thought, well, you know, maybe it was like the little A-7s were flying. They were from Salfridge, or not Salfridge, but Wood Smith Air Force Base was in Osco,
Starting point is 00:16:28 which is about 20 miles away. And a lot of times, the guys will fly down along the Oslo River and they'll get low. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. And now a break from our sponsor,
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Starting point is 00:19:26 but you get that boom when they go through there. So that's kind of what I was thinking it was. But it was just all these different strange things all of a sudden happening. I was, you know, now I was just not really comfortable with what was going on. And so anyway, I'm just trying to like, okay, calm yourself.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I wasn't, even if I wasn't scared, I was irritated, I was angry because it just felt like people were messing up my weeks. I decided to go on to use the restroom and we had an outhouse out the back of the cabin. and that's you know if you had to do sit-down business that's where you went we had a chemical toilet inside that's really where the women went when they came up on the weekends you know because you had to clean it yourself so I go outside and I'm just one more time you know it was that feeling was there but so I go out to do my business and and I just hear that oomph again and now I'm like all right now this is just this is gone beyond anything that is in my experience
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm just I'm done you know but I'm still getting angry you know I'm getting angry my patience has gone and I just went back inside you know, and I was sitting at a small kitchen table and I made some coffee. And, you know, then I just trying to run through what is going on. And I don't have any kind of context, any clue, any, I was getting rambled by this time. And I don't know, I'm, I don't know, Jeremy, I'm just not doing real good at this because there's a lot of things you're doing great right now Sean um what time of day
Starting point is 00:21:47 would you say that was where you went out to the house got rattled it was about it was a it was about three o'clock okay um and you know between three and three 15 because the the where we were the clearing around the houses you know about a half acre was cleared But it was kind of patchy. So when that November sun is just about hit the top of the trees, it's right about 3 o'clock on its way down. Because by 4 o'clock, it would be kind of that grayish dust. And then by 5 o'clock, done.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You're dark because the sun's below the trees. And you're all in shadow. You might looking straight up. You'd still have a little bit more, a little bit more light that you can see like straight above you but as far as eliminating the area
Starting point is 00:22:47 by 5 o'clock you're done and it's it's one of those places where other than artificial light from cabins or a flashlight there is no there's no street lights there's no
Starting point is 00:23:04 so it's dark and unless you've experienced it especially in those November days where, you know, it tends to be more overcast in northern Michigan. You can't see your hand in front of your face. That's how dark it is. It's that deep, deep, almost cave-like dark. When you've heard the oomph sounds, can you describe a little bit how loud that sound felt to you when you heard it? I almost felt the vibration in my chest.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You know, like there was an actual sound hitting a wall. Like a, have you ever been in a very tight quarters? So like a very small hallway or a basement and been close to a wall and you've spoken loudly and you feel that sound come back at you? Sure. Yeah. And actually, yeah, it felt like that except it was a very open area. And it felt almost like the sound when it hit me was, say, an open-handed hand, just pushing really lightly on my chest. But it was very, it was quick, but it was spread out.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So it was like a big wave. but like just someone were to give you like an open-handed push on your chest. And that's what it, that's what it felt like. You know, there was a distinct wave to it. And see how to be agitating for sure. Well, yeah, but it was, but it was one of those things where I've had experiences before in my life, not in the woods, not. anything outdoor related
Starting point is 00:25:10 but in professional context where you're kind of hypersensitive and hyperware of everything that's going out around you because you're in fight or flight you're in what would
Starting point is 00:25:27 turn out to be either a dangerous situation with a predatory human or you're clearing a building you know, you're just so focused on what is going on. And that's how I was sensing that, almost, that sound. So it was outside of, excuse me, outside of what I would consider to be an experience for there, but I've experienced similar feelings, other places.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Sure. You know, because of the cabinet, I was always totally relaxed. You know, just it was that one place where I could always go and decompress. I could get out to the lake and fish, you know, take a walk in the woods, go after squirrel, whatever I wanted to do. And I never ever felt like I needed to be vigilant for, you know, two-legged predators or there was anything that I wouldn't be able to handle with, you know, allowed get out of here, you know, or, you know, throwing a rock at something.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know, it was just, it was a really peaceful place. That makes more sense now why you would be agitated then, is it was encroaching on. Yeah. It was messing with your perfect place, your happy place, you know, fill in the blank and maybe something else entirely. well and you know and like I said you know I work for a city department in Arizona and you know so we had good vacation time I had three weeks every year you know after five years because it worked so much overtime we would get vacation time based on how many hours we you know how much who worked and you know back in those days I didn't make a lot of money I made a decent living for the area, but I worked a lot of overtime because, you know, I had just bought my own,
Starting point is 00:27:40 I bought a condo, you know, so I had my own home and, and I didn't want to be in a lot of debt. So I worked a lot of overtime. And so that three weeks was my, okay, driving to Michigan, you know, I'm going to see my maternal grandparents, you know, my dad's going to be up. You know, my Uncle Mick will be up, you know, be kind of the, um, decompressed from everything time. Sure. But I liked that week by myself where I didn't have to talk to anybody if I didn't choose to, you know, unless I drove into town, which I rarely did. I didn't have to, you know, occasionally you might run into someone that was, you know, coming up to hunt. But that was, that was pretty rare.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So, um, Yeah, but yeah, it did. It ruined my, it ruined my vacation. I guess, you know, like you said. That's why that is wild. Yeah. Okay, so it's around three, three, three 30 in the afternoon. You're headed back.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, yeah, definitely in the three o'clock hour. Yeah. Yeah, I went back, you know, went back into the cabin. You know, as I remember, you know, I started some dinner, you know, I was just, but still at the same time, while I'm trying to make dinner, I'm like almost grumbling and cussing to myself. You know, they'll those internal conversations where, you know, someone's messing with me in a, you know, derber, dur, ber, bur, burr.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You know, that like Yosemite, Sam, cussing under your breath. You know, it just, it was just irritated. Exactly. You know, I mean, I don't know any other way to describe it. It was just that. It's like when your kids are running wild and you, But they're not doing anything wrong. And you want to cuss them out, but you don't because you're a good dad.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Sure. But you go out in the garage and you cuss to yourself. You know, that's what it felt like. So, you know, anyway, we went back, back in the cabin, started doing some dinner. I had to go back outside. And it was, you know, I had to do some stand-up business. you know, you go to the outhouse, you got to do a douche, you don't if you got to, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So I go back outside and about halfway between the, but I don't know, 40 to 50 feet between the back porch and the outhouse, which faces out under the swamp area that, it's not really swamp. It's wet all the time. You know, we really have swamps in Michigan, but it's a big wet.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Like, you know, kind of behind the summer, low in the fall and the winter, but you just don't go back there. You know, unless you want your boots getting sucked off your feet with that really black,
Starting point is 00:30:45 silty mud. But anyway, I'm going out and from around the unexposed side of the house and a tree. it stepped out. And I don't know why it stepped out. I don't know why I chose to come out and look at,
Starting point is 00:31:06 but now I'm looking at it. Like, white at, you know, and I'm 6'4, and this thing had to be, I had to have a foot on me, maybe a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You know, and I think my best estimation when I looked at the tree that it was near, you know, It had to be eight feet. And I was 10 yards away from it. You know, max, I was about 30 feet. And I, even now, you know, it's going back into that moment,
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm looking at this thing. And I was like, I'm tongue-tied now, just talking about it. and it, you know, and it did it again and then just, just, and this time, this time I felt it almost just go through me. You know, that oomp was so powerful. It just like a wave that just went right through my body. And all I'm thinking, it was just, oh, my God, you know, what am I going to do? You know? but then I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I just stood there and I'm like, okay, don't, don't run, you know? And I think honestly, that's really what I wanted to do. I was just like, all right, I'm going to run now. You know, that calm voice you get in your head where it has that totally stupid, really fast conversation with yourself. And I'm like, I'm going to run down. No, that's not going to. work because it can reach out and grab me and it's good you know it was just like I felt like a
Starting point is 00:33:05 cartoon moment of with myself so I just looked at it and I and I look and it's looking back at me and now you know there were no whites to its eyes you know that was the really weird thing and it's it's just it you know conical had no neck look like if Arnold Schwarzenegger had a bigger brother who put on another hundred pounds. You know, it was just, it was massive, the mass of this creature. I could barely describe. And those, the long arms, the legs were like tree stumps. You know, the hair on it was, even in, even like that, that fading light,
Starting point is 00:33:55 it's like almost the tips of it were glistening. Now, like, sparkly, you know, like you hear people, talking about, but just like a very natural hair sheen that you would see on like a new growth coat on your horses, you know, just before the fall, like very well groomed and very well camped. Like it worked to keep itself clean, I guess. I don't know. That's just, that seemed that. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. And now a break from our sponsor, Miracle Grow. Let's be real.
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Starting point is 00:37:18 it was huge of it was huge of it but the face was very humid you know the cheekbones were very pronounced you know it had a flatter nose you know so it was wider
Starting point is 00:37:37 not really you know not really pronounced you know coming out from the face heavy brows and the eyes were just really deeply inset it it was just the length that I was able to look at it,
Starting point is 00:38:00 that impression was there was something there. You know, looking into those eyes, there was something there other than a blank, dumb animal. There was an intelligence there. You know, and I'm not saying, you know, it was a human intelligence, but definitely, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:21 this creature has, had an awareness of itself and what was going on around it. You know, and then, but it, and I remember it was really weird because before it went, it's almost like it to lift in its head just a little bit and it sniff the air. Really, you know, it's these little details. It was like, you know, but then the, then the oom, so, you know, I don't know, I don't know. It just, um, and then it, it, it, it, it. It moved a little bit, almost imperceptibly.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And I put my hand on my pistol. And when I did that, then it just made this like, it sounded like that started with an M and like through purse lips. But it was really, and that hit me like a wave. And it seemed like it got taller in the moment. I know that that's dumb as it, you know, it sounds dumb that it seems like it got taller. but then I think that maybe
Starting point is 00:39:26 you know because then it tensed up so it stood a little bit more erect and all I could think was oh shit I'm going to have to shoot this thing and empty my gun into it or it's going to rip me apart but then it looked off it just it looked off to its right but when it did it kind of swung its whole body
Starting point is 00:39:47 and like lifted its head a little bit I don't know trying to get that jaw bone to clear those big shoulders. Because like I said, you didn't have a net. And it's, but then it looked and then it just ran. You know, and, you know, just, you know, trees, not big trees, but like saplings cracked as it went.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like it was making a new trail. And even though I couldn't see that after it got in, you know, like within, say, a second half into the tree line, I think, you know, I couldn't see it, but I can still see where it was going based on the tree shaking and, you know, so the larger things that were visible. And, you know, it was just, I was just amazed at that point, you know, and scared. And I made a B-line back to the cabin.
Starting point is 00:40:42 You know, and I made sure that, you know, the shotgun was off the wall and loaded. My rifle, I mean, it was just almost like, you know, I had to, you know, fortify myself. And it was, and I just, I don't know, it was, it was just insanity a moment, you know, the mad minute, you know, because we would call it. So, but I, I don't know, you know, admitting to the, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:22 the, the fear that, you know you I don't know it's it's but that was my you know that was my sighting that's I can you know I didn't see it again how I mean just hearing the story I can tell this yeah I mean this story has affected me that's intense man like I have some questions for you Sean about that if that's okay. When... Oh, absolutely, go ahead. So you saw it make the oomph sound.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Could you tell if it was making it with its mouth? Yeah, I mean, because the the cheeks, you know, the, the flushy part of the cheeks under the cheekbones, you know, they puffed up, they rounded out almost like you were, like, you know, whistle, you know, that we see that they're filling up with air.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And then when it made the sound that, you know, I can see the lip going to the teeth, you know, it was articulating, you know. I know this sounds a little bit silly, but it almost had a cartoonish element to it. Um, you know, you know, the way the, uh, over exaggerated things they do in cartoons, you know, to make it look, um, yeah, that's, that was how it felt. So, but yeah, that was, and, and it, and I know the one, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, sound, it definitely pursed his lips and put its lips tightly together. I mean, that was my conversation with Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yeah, that was your back and forth with Bigfoot for sure. That would last you for the rest of your life. Yeah, it was, it was different shades of like a reddish brown. Okay. And there was some black. It was not like it was camouflaged, but just the way that the color was hitting it. you know in the light
Starting point is 00:44:10 it was much more red-brown where the light was hitting it but where it was dark and in shadow like the one quarter of it it was almost black so I don't know it was like Bob have you ever seen a black bear
Starting point is 00:44:27 in the woods and then did their natural more natural you know, they're not like being Carri-Corps Zoo, how their hair just kind of absorbs a lot of light. That was the impression that I got, but there was a definite reddish-brown hue to it in the lighted areas. So, you know, it was definitely, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:57 partially photoreactive and not I you know and I don't know I think that and I'm trying to remember you know an anthropology class that I took 30 years ago more of a hollow hollow hair tends to do that
Starting point is 00:45:19 that doesn't have the oh gosh you can't remember what you know that some animal hair that's hollow for insulation can do that yeah Did you see any tracks around the cabin at all? I saw like pressure impressions. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But, you know, it's November, all the leaves have fallen off the deciduistries. Yeah. So it's really, there's a lot of leaf cover, like pretty thick. So no, I didn't see any tracks. I, you know, there were impressions, but those were the, you know, anything could have made those, you know. Yeah. So there was nothing that I would say, that's a trap. I would say, might be, but, you know, with maybe a 10% being sure.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I mean, looking back with the contacts, I could say, yeah, it probably walked. This is probably where I walk. Yeah. But I, you know, there was nothing in it that I could say, oh, look, that's a, that's a, that's a big foot drive. Did you stay in the night in that cabin or did you leave pretty quick after? No, I stayed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:43 No, I said, well, it was really funny. It's because, you know, looking back, it was like, I made sure all the guns were close to hand. And where I, where I slept in the cabin was in one of the corners, I had. a bed there that I had ever since I was a kid because it was right near a hotel window. And you got to imagine the cabin was built out of logs back in late 40s. So, you know, my dad and my uncle had used, you know, just about every, you know, recovered and surplus window they could find. So nothing really matched. there was this really big window
Starting point is 00:47:31 and and that's when my bed was because I usually like to open the window even if it was just a crack when the weather was cold just because I liked the smell and I like to hear the woods and and things like that but I wouldn't sleep I didn't sleep there that night
Starting point is 00:47:48 I slept on one of the couches it was against one of the more solid walls that was by the big fireplace because there was a really big stone fireplace in there and it was like but nothing is going to stop it from coming in, but at least this way, if it decides to come in,
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm going to, you know, I'll have time to, you know, see it and point a gun at it before it eats me. Absolutely. You know, that ridiculousness,
Starting point is 00:48:16 you know, like, you know, trying to make my tactical situation better, realizing that if they really wanted a piece of me, there probably wasn't a lot I could do. No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So, yeah. You know, maybe if I got to the shotgun quick enough, maybe, you know, there were a lot of ifs. You know, I'd been in, you know, I had been into critical incidents. As a police officer, I do that I could. It would handle myself. But this is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress
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Starting point is 00:51:36 This was, it might be related to us, but it was a hell of a lot bigger. than anyone I ever arrested on the street. So I was just like, well, shit. I'm going to do what I can do. And I'm going to just try to put it out of my mind. I'm going to read, put a movie in the VCR, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And so that was my feeling at the time. But I went back inside and I just decided that, you know, if I had to go to the bathroom again, I was using it. inside. Absolutely. You know. The rest of that night, did you hear anything out of the ordinary, any like weird knocks or owls or vocalizations or anything weird like that?
Starting point is 00:52:30 No. No. Because everything that I did hear, I was convinced was big foot. Yeah, the rest of the night, it was, you know, I always slept in the, you know, I always slept in the corner of, and it was like 24 by 24 on the interior dimensions of the cabinet. It was like one big room with rooms that had been added on later. But I always slept in this corner because there was a like a super single bed and it was right by the window. And I used to, and I didn't care what time it was. I like to have the window cracked a little
Starting point is 00:53:04 bit, you know, be able to listen and smell. And it was just, that was my bed. and I didn't that night there was no way I slept over by one of the big solid walls that the big fireplace was kind of formed a corner and there was no way I was going to be near the window and that was where I kind of forwarded up I had you know I had the shotgun on the table my rifle my pistol you know probably my knife I mean it was just it was It was just that weird, that weird moment of, and I'm making rationally irrational decisions. It's like, yes, you know, have the shotgun loaded with slugs. You know, yes, have my rifle close by.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You know, I was a cop for crying out loud. I always had my pistol. But it was just one of those things where, you know, I, you know, even though the cabin was all we built, I knew that if it wanted in, it was going to get in. Absolutely. but I didn't, but I didn't feel that, you know, I didn't feel any malevolence. I didn't feel any, anything predatory, but there was a lot of, like, post-critical incident over awareness, you know, a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And it was, you know, my decision, well, you know, I'm not going to let it get me. But even though I didn't feel like it was. wanting to get me, it was just that human you know, I'm going to do what I have to do to make. Anyway, you know, the rest of the night was really uneventful. I mean, it was,
Starting point is 00:55:00 it was normal, you know, sounds, but, you know, but of course, to my mind, everything was big foot. You know, a chittering outside was bigfoot. Yeah. You know, the, the trash pandas, trying to get into the garbage.
Starting point is 00:55:17 You know, they were big foot. You know, even though I'd heard the raccoons, you know, so you hear the raccoons, they're bigfoot. You know, that's, it was that, that feeling, you know, going on through the night. And, you know, and I fell asleep at some point. And I probably earlier than I thought, just because the adrenaline dump had just drained me.
Starting point is 00:55:40 And I, you know, woke up the next morning. I made coffee. I was much more pensive as I was moving around. I'm like, okay, looking here, looking there, you know, opening the back door, you know, not getting into the fatal funnel, checking my, you know, checking my egress. It was almost like I was coming out of a, out of a building, an tactical situation just because I wanted to see before,
Starting point is 00:56:06 but everything felt okay. Yeah, you know, I just, when I, stepped out in the light. I'm like, okay, everything feels okay. It felt more normal than it had, but I still felt, well, I knew now at this point, it was out there. But it was almost that relief in knowing, okay, I know what it is. It hasn't hurt me, you know, and I'm assuming they'd been there, you know, heck of a lot longer than we'd been going there. A lot in the cabin probably, yeah. Well, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It's, you know, because you know, and up in that area, you know, there's still, you know, there's a lot of agriculture out there, a lot of cornfields, a lot of, you know, dairy, a lot of, you know, there's pig farms and everything, you know, in that county, you know, plus a lot of, you know, fish opportunities and, you know, there's beaver up there, there's the deer. So there's, you know, a pretty wide diet. So I'm, you know, they live where the food is. You know, I can, that's where the food is. But it just felt like, okay, it's not, it doesn't want to hurt me.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I don't want to hurt it. You know, we're just going to live and let live. So, but anyway, you know, the old man shows up. Grandpa shows up. And, you know, we had that kind of. conversation and it's all I said was I know you know I told him what happened is that I know you know wow yeah oh man and he never would say anything else about it never talked about oh wow so he had stuff happening he wouldn't talk about it that's amazing yeah oh man what what an encounter that's that's amazing thank you for sharing Sean I mean have you gone to that place since then no it it burned down not not not Not too long after that, there was a big fire up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah. And they, you know, and they sold the property. And, you know, it was just, you know, they were going to kind of go to different, different places and, you know, had different ways of hunting in mind now after that and different friends. So, but yeah, that's, that's it. That's incredible. Sean, I, I'm privileged to have you share that. the podcast. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Now you're welcome. I feel like I was stepped all over myself, you know, doing it. But yeah, if, yeah, let me know when it comes out so I can hear how bad I sounded. Nah, it sounded. I will definitely let you know that
Starting point is 00:59:04 Sean, thanks so much for hanging out tonight. And I will be in touch for when it releases and all that. Thank you. And become a supporting member of the Bigfoot Society podcast by going to www. patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad-free episodes as well. If you've got a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share
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