Bigfoot Society - Researching Bigfoot in Eastern Washington and the Pacific Northwest | Bigfoot Researcher | Mike Casey

Episode Date: April 9, 2022

#123Mike Casey is a Bigfoot enthusiast located in Eastern Washington. He has been a paranormal investigator for the past seven years and in 2021 he switched gears into the Bigfoot realm. He grew up in the Truckee/Lake Tahoe area as well as around the Santa Cruz mountains and always enjoys the time spent in the woods. He is a very eager and adventurous soul, always itching to get out into the field. He has taken expeditions into the bluff creek area of Northern California as well as around the base of Mount Saint Helens and mount Adams in the dark divide. He has many plans this summer of different locations and looks forward to sharing the journey.Join the Bigfoot Society Patreon to hear an extra 26 minute conversation with Mike from the Bigfoot Society After Show and get a sweet membership card, a special vinyl sticker and much, much more!https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyTune in every Saturday at 5 pm Central for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QIG: https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Website: https://bit.ly/3jvKIm7Donate: https://bit.ly/3C4hodMShop: https://etsy.me/3ptlubQiTunes: https://apple.co/3fmmhTCSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3vF1vIriHeart Radio: https://ihr.fm/3CarDgDStitcher: https://bit.ly/3m75I4xFacebook: httpsSmart Passive Income PodcastWeekly interviews, strategy, and advice for building your online business the smart way.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

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Be sure to leave what your favorite part of the episode was in the comment. Welcome back to the Bigfoot Society podcast. This week, I have the pleasure of talking to a new friend, Mr. Mike Casey, from Eastern Washington State. Mike is a Bigfoot researcher, newer to the field, but has already had some great connections and really cool experiences, researching, in places that you'll probably recognize if you're familiar to the Bigfoot research phenomenon and culture. So definitely an enjoyable interview as we talk about all sorts of things looking in places such as Mount St. Helens area, Mount Adams, Bluff Creek.

and just a really, really fun chat talking to someone that I've wanted to talk to for a long time. And I think you'll enjoy making this connection by listening to the interview as well. So sit back, enjoy, and listen to this interview I had with Mike Casey, Bigfoot researcher from Eastern Washington. All right, welcome back to the Bigfoot Society podcast. I have the privilege of talking with, uh, A new friend, Mike Casey, from Eastern Washington, correct, Mike? Yes, sir. Awesome.

Nice to meet you, man. Let's go a little bit about what your background is. You've given a pretty awesome bio here. So I'm going to go ahead and go through that and kind of give us a view of where we're going tonight. So Mike Casey is a big foot enthusiast located in southeastern Washington. He's been a paranormal investigator for the past seven years. And in 2021, he's seen. switch gears into the Bigfoot realm.

He grew up in the Truckee Lake Tahoe area as well as around the Santa Cruz Mountains and enjoys, always enjoys the time spent in the woods. He is a very eager and adventure soul, always itching to get out to the field. He's taken expeditions into a few different areas, which we will talk about in a bit. I won't spoil the surprise there what they are. He has many plans this summer of different locations and looks forward to sharing the journey. So let's get into it, Mike. So what you're in the southeast Washington area. And we'll start with this.

So when I think a big foot in Washington, I'm thinking of more maybe the Olympic Peninsula. But is that not the case? So we're really looking at squatchy areas in the southeast as well? Farther east is the Blue Mountains. I actually have not made it that far yet. I'm in Richland, so the Tri-Cities area. But there are reports down here.

I got three little kids and the oldest, she's three. So she's all about the Bigfoot. And my two-year-old, she's all about Kong. So we go to Washington, down by the Columbia River, there were some reports that are on the BFRO website. So we figured one weekend, like, why not? So there's stuff to do around here. But we just moved up here last August.

So we're new to the area. still trying to get my treads on the ground, figure out the zones, areas, meet the people, meet people. I was planning on going to one event in January, but then my third baby was born. So we have another event we're going to in the Forks, Washington, the first annual Sasquatch days. Oh, yeah, cool.

I'm going to take Ellie up there, and I'm super excited to meet everyone at that event. Super jazzed. everybody I've talked to in this community, the Bigfoot community, has been so open and welcoming. And it's something that I'm not too used to from the previous history. As we'll get into that, I come from the paranormal background and very, very rubby shoulders. And so for a community to be so open and just like literally being able to just send out an email or an Instagram chat and be like, hey, so I saw this article or this documentary or, I read this book and you were mentioned in it and I have some questions or could you point me to some areas or just give me any kind of feedback or history lessons.

I'm a big of history guy. So right now, so new that I'm trying to just get my bearings and learn as much as I can. I'm getting out in the field. But it's, I mean, I got kids. I got work. So I get out as much as I can. Yeah, totally. Oh, man. What was the, what was the factor that made you switch from the one? What was it that that drew you to the field of Bigfoot? Let's, that might be a good way to put it. I've always been into nature outside. Growing up in the Lake Tahoe Truckee area, in mountains, lakes. I wasn't into Bigfoot then, which I was bummed about now. Because I heard about the stories I didn't.

chemistry teacher that spouted off stories about one in south tahoe and that was a quick ride drive down a highway 89 south for me but i never went and checked it out i was just a cool story um but the the big switch i would say from the paranormal world because i did i i try and base it off years but i don't even really remember when i first started like what year a bad time in my life when i first started all that. But I was in that for a bunch of years, and then I kind of like weaned off. I spoke at paranormal conferences. I've been on ghost adventures.

I've been on a few shows like Amazon has. Mike. I should say there's a still image of me on ghost adventures. I wasn't interviewed. I've met. It was cool. The places I got to go and visit were definitely fun. But it's pricey.

It's like. Hey, spend $200, and that's a group pot. Like, hey, everybody pitch in $200 and we'll have one night at this rack and Jackal barn or shack. And it's just, I don't know, I could do that or I could spend $60 at most on food and camping and a campsite or gas. I love it. That's a good way to look at it for sure. Yeah.

And with COVID hitting, it wasn't like. Like, hey, I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm not going to go sit in a building with all you people. I'm going to go out with my family to the woods and go camping. And that's what kind of grew. Now the book, the library has grown, the T-shirt collection, the mug collection has grown. Like, no joke. My wife, she's going crazy with all my big foot stuff.

Dude, you and me both. I've already, I've shared this. I've shared how maybe I have, I don't, I forget what I share on the podcast and what I share in conversations, which is not a good thing. My wife had an intervention the other day where it's like, okay, you've got all your t-shirts are crypted t-shirts. So I'm like, well, I'm not getting rid of any. Right. I guess we need more space for T-shirts, but. Exactly.

I brought that up. He's like, well, we have a bigger closet now. That's right. we have more room. So people keep on, listeners keep on sending t-shirts for sure. Yeah, no,

the t-shirts are awesome. I got your big foot. I didn't want to go, you know, too much Bigfoot Society podcast. That's true. Is that one of the, that's one of the classic,

like the mountain ones? Is that it? That's it, yeah. They have great. I love them. Yeah. Yeah,

I can't find the old one. There was one that was a couple years ago. Again, I'm into history. So I look back at the old shirts and see about eBay and stuff. And yeah, there goes the other, the mountain collection of Bigfoot shirts. I actually got this in a size and it was too big and my wife was pregnant at the time.

So I was just like, here you go. I got another one on the way that's smaller. That's awesome. Few ways it all the time. So Mike, a little background for listeners. So I've been wanting to talk to Mike for a while. So the main reason is it's. hard it's hard to find people that have not gone everywhere and if you can find um so i just like i have

you know like this i don't know if it's a six sense for for cryptid bigfoot's people and i should talk to that person i just have a right and um i started seeing your names pop your name popping up everywhere and a lot of really interesting comments and stuff on social media and i was like i want I don't know, it's nothing weird. But there was, you've been talking to a lot of people about a lot of really interesting things. And like I've saw, well, I believe it's, it's one of the ones that we'll talk about. But you've, you've taken some interesting expeditions already. And I'd love to talk about those.

But the main reason I, I believe you were talking to Mark Mercer, in some comments. comment thread and I was like, this is cool. And this is other places. And then this is before, I will say full disclosure. Mike is a Patreon supporter as well, which I totally appreciate. But I've been trying to talk to you for a while, buddy. So let's talk. What's it like getting to the Bluff Creek? That Bluff Creek is so rich in history and like the mecca for Big Fudders. What was that? So I've made it to the creek. I've never made it to the actual. site. Every time I've gone up there, of course, I've read the websites and I'm amazing. I have a photographic memory. That's how I really don't get lost in those back roads and stuff. Like, I know which way I've come. But when I read a website and like the sources and stuff, I get all mixed up. But there

was this one website where I found that the whole directions, the left, the right, the, I can't even remember the forest road names but like and then you find bigfoot stickers on all the signs pointing oh really so it helped yeah so there's part in there that says gates are closed from like october to april or something because just the snow i got into bigfoot literally the like the trigger that hit was uh i think in november of 2019 Okay. And no, 2020. And so I got the itch.

I wanted like that time I was living in Reno, Nevada. Bluff Creek, Willow Creek area was, I think it was like a seven-hour drive. So I was like, I got this. So I told my wife, I'm like packing up the cars. At that time, I had two kids. I had Ellie and Wyatt. So I was just like, I got to go check this place out. I packed up the truck and headed out

and I got to the gate. I camped at the gate that first time I went up there. Oh, wow. And it's definitely a feeling of being watched in that zone, but that might have been because that was my very first time actually going on a Bigfoot expedition. It gave you a little amped, yeah. And when I go, I go alone.

I've gone with a couple people in the past, and it wound up being me camping for, to both of us. Like, I thought they would be able to handle themselves, no stuff, but it was just the first time, miserable. The second time, the guy was complaining the whole time. And then we stumbled on the pot farm. That's not good.

No, it's, and he wanted to go talk to the pot farmers. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you don't want to get out of here. Yeah, that was a big red flag. And I'm like, I saw Sean Hulu. I know what those guys can do. I don't want to, you know. Like, we're at this site that we're at this grow plant or operational. I'm literally spouting off this.

My buddy's spouting off Murder Mountain, which was on Netflix or something. Oh, yeah. I'd never seen it, but he was just like, oh, these guys know how to do it, right? And I'm like, no, man. I'm out of here, dude, let's get it.

And we saw, like, we saw fresh grow bags. We saw, like, an ATV. We heard voices. We were running from the, I was. Oh, so you were around there while the dudes weren't there. Yeah, yeah. We stumbled up. You're taking your life in your hands, dude.

It was, that was an intense trip. Like we were just driving the roads. It wasn't too much about hiking because he's got a bad back. I have a bad back. But we were just driving. And then we found this, I feel a little sketched to him, the details of this. But we found something we pulled off the road. How about this Mike real quick?

How about maybe not tell enough details to get you in trouble and also for me to do a lot of editing? Yeah, that's true. Okay. So we stumble upon this area and we're walking in the place. I mean, it doesn't look like there's anybody there. It looks like old, abandoned ramshackly stuff. Yeah. I have tons of pictures of the place because I'm literally thinking,

oh, it's cool, nobody's here. And then we wander up the road a bit. And that's when we see the new grow plants and the bags and then the ATB. And then we hear the voices. And then we're like, high tailing it back to the truck. And I'm picturing like the sites on my back. Oh, no doubt, dude. Not cool.

So it's definitely you got to know where to go. And I don't know. Like looking at the Google Earth image of that area, I should have known not to go up there. Like it's just, it's plain as day right out in the open. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back.

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Got me shaking all over again. That was intense. Yeah. Just be careful out there and don't go poking around in places you don't own because you might not be as lucky. Seriously. Turn away and walk away. Keep the big footing. Yeah.

Ask watch on Hulu. You'll know what we're talking about. Yeah. But back to the Bluff Creek thing. So I camped out that first spot. It was more of getting my bearings. I felt eyes on me. didn't hear anything.

When I go camping, I'm not the minimalist. You probably saw in those camp photos. When I go, it's sort of at this time, wherever my truck can go, that's where I'll put my stuff. I got a huge tent. I got the big family, so we only have big tents. So it's like, you know, I'll just luxury camp it when I'm big footing at the time, hoping to minimalize things.

But I had the big setup right there at the gate. the second time I went was with a girl from the paranormal field that I knew. She actually, I'll say that she was the one that actually kind of got me interested in the paranormal stuff. We'd always talked at paranormal conferences and been like, oh, big foot, big foot. Like we were into it. So she came up with the idea to start a group. And sadly, the group is going, but I'm not a part of the group because I just, I work best. alone. Like sort of like as a solo, I don't know, not solo alone. Like I like to go out with people,

but I don't like to be associated with a certain, I like the freedom of being able to do what I want to do. Yep. Yep. Yep. As simple as that put it. But that time we found stick structures, we, but potential stick structures. There was one stick structure that I don't know how a fallen over tree can weave between other trees. So that's the thing that confused me on that. And then there was some trail cam mystery stuff. Something was missing. Should have taken a picture, but there was no pictures.

Just the thing vanished. Wow. We put up these dinosaurs, and one of the dinosaurs was just gone. I spent 45 minutes of my life on the forest floor, digging through the leaves and the sticks, trying to find this dinosaur toy and I couldn't find it. Wow. But there's pictures

of us like setting up the game camera, putting up the dinosaurs, walking away and then coming back the next day. That's why. I don't know what happened to that. I saw you where you shared on Facebook the other day. You have a really interesting photo. A few photos

you captured just recently when you're out. Do you mind talking about that? And then, you know, people will have to check them out. You can tell them where to check out the photos. But yeah. That was, again, being new to Washington, right now my locations. Like I've talked to a couple people. I've talked to Emily with the forest floor.

Oh, cool. Yeah. She's hooked me up with a guy named Mike L. Huge shout out to him. I got some GPS places from him. He's helping. Shout out to Josh. PNW map, Bigfoot Maps.

Cool guy. No joke. He has helped out so much. Scott's app. I mean, you've had some seriously great, like, guest on your show. Thank you. And that we've got the best guest. No.

Too good. But no, all of, so many people, Shane Corson from the Olympic project. I hit him up. Dude, everyone, so everyone loves, I have to have Shane back on because like that was a long that's a long time ago and yeah I was like I was still trying to figure stuff out and like everyone really likes that Shane course and episode but I'm like

when I was doing the episode I was like uh because I didn't really like found you know myself in the so I got to get Shane back on so dude it was the coolest thing I I don't even remember what I first said it was an Instagram like hey I just moved up here I'd love some help and pointers or something like that. And all of a sudden he's like, yeah, give me a call. Here's my number. Wow. I'm like, what?

So I'm like trying to figure out my schedule is like telling my wife. Like, can you watch the kids? I have a serious phone call. And I'm like sitting in my driveway and my camp chair with like notepad and like, oh, and then my phone wouldn't call him. And then so I had to call him on, on Instagram or something like that. We talked that way. Like, oh, but seriously, blown away with the kind of.

kindness. And then Derek Randalls. Derek Randles, he's right up there. Mind blown. The generosity of that. I mean, they've invited me up to the barn. Yeah. Okay. And so I'm super thrilled to go see that. Hopefully I'll get to go by there during the Forks, Sasquatch Days. Sure. They invited us over to stay there. I think they're doing a camp out, but A, I'll have my daughter, Ellie, who's three, B, to say. Saturday Sunday event and I work Saturday so I got to go Sunday. Totally got it. But still, just the idea of the offer is just amazing. Mark Merself.

So that has to be my favorite, like the legend. Like you know how you, the question gets asked like, what's your favorite Bigfoot legend or history story? It's Ape Canyon. And I've, I don't know. My idea of Bigfoot evidence is like if I'm there and I witness it, then I'm a whole lot more leaning on the side of it happening. Okay. But I always approach things as like, what if it is?

What if, like, what if that actually did happen? Like, what if I was there and I was witnessing it? I'm one for experiences. Like, I've had some pretty crazy wild times in my days. And I'm always one for an experience. And so to put and again, putting myself into. of the Fred Beck shoes is just being there in that moment with these creatures descending and fighting them off.

What a wild time. I mean, and so I hit up Mark Mercell being like, hey, big question. I don't know how you accept people wanting to go up there or anything like that. and he posted something on being like going up there and I was like hey do you want help or assistance not looking for I mean I just want to be a fly on the canyon wall in this sense and I hadn't heard from him in so long and I was just like but then we just reconnected or we just talked oh cool like two weeks ago and we got at least the time of year I think it's August or September I think he's planning on going up. Wow. So pretty much those two months are blocked off. I don't have anything planned because that's what I want to do.

That's great. Until then, it's like two trips a month. I have, I have Sunday, Monday, Tuesdays off of work. So I'm hoping to be able to take off. I got the kids, though. So some trips will be kid friendly. Some kids or trips will be boondocks. There you go.

In the middle of nowhere. That's a good mix, I think. It's, you know. Yeah. Ellie, she's one that she's just itching. Every single day I get home from work. Hey, are we going camping? We don't go big for him?

He's like, we're squatch. That's good. It's have that love for nature already. I want to make sure. I want to loop back a little bit. So the photos that we got really excited about Shane Corson for a second, which is totally understandable because if you're not you're you need to check yourself they're just but um people the photos the photo set that you had taken that you there's like some some weird

stuff going on with it right yeah yeah so the biggest thing that points out to me is so the the trail can that i have it and this is like the third or fourth time i've i've used it so i'm still learning again intro to big footing beginner. But it takes two pictures every time it detects motion. So when I'm going through the pictures, literally, so we went up to Bumping Lake two weeks ago and set the trail cam up in this little meadow that we found elk tracks in, just trying to see what we could find.

Herd Bumping Lake's a great place. So we figured to give it a shot. Right. The pictures that have the figure, object, That was from last September. Okay. That actually, I'm awful on like getting back from a camp trip. And I mean, I still have stuff in the truck from that trip.

Like, it's sort of like I get back and it's a decompressed and I got the kids and it's like, I don't know. I was that way with paranormal evidence too. It was just going over it. If nothing significant happens, it's like the last on my radar. But anyway, so I'm going through the pictures of Bumping Lake. And then I'm realizing, oh, I have the from the, it was somewhere in the dark divide. Somewhere up, I don't know what this is. I don't know what this is.

I'm sorry. So, again, throwing darts at a map. That's sort of how I'm aiming. I'm a huge fan of the Mount St. Helens, Mount Adams, Mount Rainier, that little area. There's a book called Where Bigfoot Walks. And that book has got me in that little area. I don't know. It just that I love it.

It was beautiful. And so I went up there and I had these few spots on my GPS map that I was like, oh, I'll try this spot. I get there. Now this doesn't look good. So I'll hop in the truck and I'll drive to a different spot. Now there's too many people around here. So I hop in the truck, drive to a different spot. It takes up gas, but you see the area.

I saw a lot of the base of Mount Adder. and Mount St. Helens, like that little gulch, I was pretty much all over the mountains. And I wound up getting lost. When you're out there, you have GPS, but as soon as you take away from the GPS screen, you lose everything. Like, you can't re-get that little pin or I haven't done the Hunt X, the downloaded maps yet. I haven't figured that out. so I realize like I get out and I take a picture and that's what exits the GPS screen so I'm like oh no and I'm like I'm looking at my gas tank and it doesn't work properly so I'm gauging by like the mileage and everything and so I wind up just Hail Mary I go down the road and I turn left and I cross this concrete bridge over a riverbed up the mountain and that's where this campsite was wow so it was total luck of draw when I got out of there it literally was I had to remember it was a one road up and

down to the top of this mountain my goodness I had to remember that I turned left in there so when I get out I turned right I mean that's how that's how I navigated my way out of there it was but I saved I mean I heard some or Shane Corses document document so I had the GPS coordinates I still have that written on my little notepad so like okay it didn't save the pin on my phone but I looked it up and it's just that picture alone makes me at least want to go give it another try. And you've got that. So then I think we're talking about the same picture is you can literally see there's some sort of like dark figureish something in the back. It's really hard to explain what it is.

Totally thought or forgot that we didn't even go over that. So yeah, I have a trail cam porting on my. at my tent and my camp site, sort of as like the security cam. I walked around, again, Finghorson says, assert your presence, make your presence known.

Set up camp, walk around, and then at night just kind of hang out at camp. So that's what I did. Set up everything. Forgot my rain tarp. So that's, or the rain fly for the tent. That's why I have the tarp over and it looks a little. But I take off.

for a couple of hikes. I sat at the camp. One time I was sitting at the camp, I swear I thought Caesar from Planet of the Apes was coming out of the forest. It was one noise. I let it go for a couple seconds. And then I got up from my camping chair

and ran over to the recorder and timestamped it, took a picture, screenshot at the time of day. And then I sat back in the chair and I just kind of waited. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. Because it would, I mean, it sounded like a chimpanzee.

Okay. I was going to ask you like so. I mean, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, again, I don't know if it's the, I don't know what they call it. Cliff Berrickman has the term. It's the Sasquatch brain, Bigfoot brain, Bigfoot on the brain.

Yeah, yeah. Where it's like you're just there and you're just looking. and you're hoping that that's like you're sort of sort of hyper-focused almost and it's like anything will sound like it or anything will look like it that's what I chalked it up to I listened to the audio and it sounds more birdish but again I don't know audio I've tried audacity I'm not a tech savvy guy I don't know how to do the layers or remove stuff or amplify or I don't know all that stuff. So I don't know.

I re-listened to it and it sounds like a bird to me. But then I saw the picture last weekend. And as I'm going through it on my laptop, I'm just speed scanning because it's just a bunch of pictures of me around camp. I remember there was these birds flying up and down that just would not leave me alone. Like these Blue J, Stellar Jays. Oh, sure. Yep.

Yeah, it's like they've never met a human. And those guys, they'd come up and have a chip. They'd eat my bacon right off my plate. But, yeah, so I'm speed scrolling. And all of a sudden, like, I see that black figure, or this thing in the background of the tent between the trees and stuff. And there's a string of lights. I kind of do an ambiance type thing when I go camping. So I have like these battery powered ferry lights.

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If I'm in the tent and something walks in between those lights and the tent, I'll see the silhouette. So that was sort of my idea of having those lights set up. So that's what is hanging in the picture. Okay. But yeah, there's this, this weird black thing. It's weird. I mean, there's this weird appendage thing coming off the side.

So I don't, I mean, I'm not saying it's a Sasquatch, but it's something. And it's not in the other photos. Yeah, and it takes, yeah, it takes two pictures. So if you look at the, if you go to the pictures or the Facebook page and look at those, the timestamps, you'll see the picture. that it took the two. And I mean, this one second it's there and the next second it's gone. Wow.

It's so weird. And I'll have it linked in the show notes. Because that's on your, you have like a researcher page on Facebook. I want to say. Yeah, I do have that Facebook, the Mike Casey Bigfoot researcher. But I actually just post most stuff on my personal.

I was actually thinking of explaining that. page because it's just something else I need to manage. And my personality, it's a very addictive personality. So when I go for something, it's like that. So my Facebook page is pretty much all based with anyone. Fair enough. I'll have you tell me afterwards what you want, notated in there and make sure people get to it.

Cool. Man, so I got to ask you, well, first, it's cool you went to bumping, Bumping Lake. Because that's the same That's where Tate's going to do his documentary, right? So I literally, I mean, so I have these notes like with the people I. Yeah. Like I want to give credit to Tataronomist.

Okay. Alex Petricov, Eli Watson. Eli, I have not talked to. He's a good guy. But Alex and Tate I have chatted with pretty good because I watch the Bluff Creek episode of Beyond the Trail. and I mean I came up on a rock slide the the memories of that I'm just I mean I don't know I see the similarities and of course I just take that leap and be like hey how's it going I'm Mike that's that's how I met Alex and Tate and Tate yeah support the GoFund me I think it would be an

amazing documentary it would be super cool I love all the work that all those guys put to their films. I get up at 4.30 every morning. It's just like this get after it mentality for me. And that's also the time that the kids are all in those. Everybody's asleep. So I get my coffee and all that. I throw up YouTube on the big screen and I'm watching all the documentaries

and watching all the films. And it's like 5 a.m. And I'm hitting up Alex like, oh, that rock slide was intense. Like, oh, the pheromone idea is brilliant. Like, all of it was super cool. Yeah, all of it is. I don't know.

It's fun to watch and learn from so many different people. Going back to the paranormal stuff, it was like a small knit group that I was in. And that's where the bumping shoulders happened. And it just, I'll leave it at that. Yeah. It's definitely like you have to be meaningful and mindful when it comes to community because like, you know, some people might listen to this and be like, oh, the Bigfoot, you know, Cryptosology field is all like roses and people being nice and high fives. Well, it's not because you can find a bunch of places on the internet where people are not very nice to each other. But if you make the mindful decision to help others out, shine the light on others, help the community be a better place for encouragement, it will then, that will spread.

And it'll just be a different playing field. And right now it's a very unique time, I think. But Mike, I'm curious. Let's say someone, it doesn't know a lot about Bigfoot and they hear you're into it. and they're like, okay, well, Mike, like, tell me, I don't really know what Bigfoot is. Like, what is Bigfoot? With me being so new to it, I've come up with this saying. And it's, people don't know what to do with it.

It is what it is. That's what I kind of label Bigfoot as. I'm so new into it. And I'm learning. It seems like every week something in my mind about Bigfoot. changes and I'm huge into the like it's a physical relic hominid that's just branched off and I mean imagine from day one being born into the forest and then the only thing to to be taught or look to learn is survive stay hidden and that's it that's wild yeah that's the two things

you got to focus on for Sasquatch. And so a five-year-old with that sort of training, I'm sure it can stay hidden in a forest. So I definitely think that they're so much more evolved in that sense of survival in the woods and in extreme climates and weather and stuff like that. caves. Caves is something that's on my list to check out because of all the lava tubes up here. Yeah. I read Ken Gearhart's book. I think it's the field guide to Bigfoot. It's such a good book. Yeah. And I hit him up right after I got done reading that or I think I was midway through it when he brought up the caves. And I was like, hey, caves, huh? So welcoming. He hit me up being like, yeah, let me look into that. And so nice. So, yeah, another shout out.

But there's just so much that goes along with it that I think, to me, it is what it is, is the best description I could. That's very interesting. So dabbling in the paranormal field, I've witnessed, I've seen things. Friends of mine have been overpowered by something. So I know that there's stuff around us that we don't see. Ron Moorhead, the Quantum Bigfoot. That interesting gentleman. Yeah, I can imagine.

That one I've listened to like four times I want to say. He's like no joke. That's good. It's good, man. Yeah. Yeah. Just the idea is that he has come up with. And so the paranormal, coming from the ghost side,

my view of spirits and ghosts are different. dimension. They go to a different dimension and they see us like we see them. That's again what I've witnessed and kind of have experienced in my own ghost hunting adventures. But when I read Quantum Bigfoot and I'm listening to Ron Moorhead and he's talking about going into different dimensions, portals, I mean, it's a little bit woo or it's a big woo. But then also, Mike, I think we know, which is not a negative thing. Yeah, no, no. But that's where I'm at is I have no idea because it's like I come from that background.

But then also the physical old relic evolved a different way that dabbles in. So it's totally. It's ever changing in my mind. I don't think I'll ever set until it's once discovered and studied. I don't think I'll ever actually set along. anything. What do you think, do you think there's going to be a certain turning point where science is like, okay, we give Bigfoot's real weirdos, you know, like, what do you think? Do you think there's something that's going to push it over the edge or? I don't know. So the missing 411 books have,

have got that think tank going on like the government and stuff, releasing things, letting us know. it's like, hey, UFOs are real. And these guys. And is like the massive Bigfoot disclosure because we've had massive UFO disclosure over the last year or so. Yeah. Or let's say UFO is in the news a lot, right? UFOs. When is it going to be like Bigfoot deluge out of nowhere?

I want that to happen. Like the files released. Who knows? Because you've listened. I mean, who hasn't listened to Sasquatch Chronicles if you're into it? So you've heard the stories and the reports of the military. going in and Black Hawk helicopters and taking out Bigfoot or the story of the ones in Nevada that got burned in the wildfire and they got taken away in ambulances.

So again, who knows if it really happened? I mean, there's credible people that have said it happened. There's multiple witnesses to it. But who knows? The biggest mystery is like, to the government side is like, why are they keeping? secret. That's that's the thing.

Why? Yeah. It's not a big deal. Why even like, come on, you know? Yeah. And then that dabbles into the whole

like National Park the missing 401, that thing. That's why I brought that up. It's like then those missing cases come into question. And so I don't know. The idea of them releasing that

could flip a lot of things to who knows what people would do. I mean, I've heard. some podcasts where some people think as soon as Bigfoot is labeled or is, comes out as an actual real being, that's when whole society will crumble.

Because there's a lot of different things that go into not just Bigfoot, but. Well, so here's the thing. So it's like everyone's the way they think is going to have to change big time, no matter what it is. And then it's like, okay, what are we going to and we'll just leave this statement here I guess but it's like uh does half of the woods of the U.S. become a reserve like protected hey don't go in there there's

giant apes yeah I'm sure running around I mean I'm sure the logging company is real happy for that happens so yeah there's a lot would happen so yeah a lot would happen but yeah yeah that's a that's an interesting answer though it is what it is what it is what it's a it is for sure. Oh, yeah. That, yeah, I can't come up with anything better because I'm so all over the board with it. If you were to make your like, let's say, a team of, you know, Mike is making a big foot, you know, research weekend. And I want these people to come with me and they're, they're researchers that are live right now. Who would you want? Like, uh, pick a few,

few researchers to go with it. There's a lot. There's so many. Oh, the list. It's not even a list of names. It's a list of groups. Oh, yeah. That's the worst part.

It's like there's so many awesome groups. I would love to go out to the woods with Alex Petakov. Alex Petrov. Totally. Yep. He, even some of his videos, the bushcraft side of it.

Like how he does the yeah. He needs to do more of that. It's so good. Yeah, I love that. I was watching that one morning and I was just like, he's doing a bow drill. Like starting a fire in the woods with the,

it's just, I really enjoyed that. I thought that was fascinating. Like, just super cool. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. That not only is he teaching Bigfoot stuff,

but he's also teaching another very, very, very helpful in the woods tool. So Alex, Tate, Tate seems like just a lot of fun to be out there with, all the episodes of being down like this, the Okalala. Oh, gosh. I haven't. I haven't watched no one. But it looks hilarious. Yes.

Oh, they're all just so good. And then what was it, the swamp grass when they were out there? and then the statenist or whatever we're in the campground. It's just like, can you have these experiences? Gosh, it's just,

you want to be, I don't know. Most people don't want to be there, but I just, I'm weird. It'd be a crazy adventure. It would be. So Tate, Alex,

oh gosh, Mark Mattsky, from Small Town Monsters. It's cool, dude. He seems like just a wealth of knowledge. Yeah, I agree. Everything I've looked or I've watched him in, he just

has so much to say. And there's small town monsters. We got... Yeah, that's true. We got... Yeah, it's true. Then we got Shane Corson, Derek

Randalls. I want to learn from them everything I can. Oh, yeah. They've been super open and welcoming. There is Oh my gosh, I got to think of his name. Tanner from Western, Oh, no, Pacific Northwest Bigfoot Search. That's it.

Tanner from Pacific Northwest Bigfoot Search. He's on Instagram. So familiar. Yeah. So he's part of, all I know them from is on Instagram. But when I first moved up here, I've reached out to like the PNW, Josh on the PNW maps and stuff.

And they spun me off to Tanner. And Tanner, he actually gave me a lot of the red dots for my dartboard for the first trip. Oh, okay. Yeah, nice. He was like, yeah, we heard vocalizations over here. There was a siding over here up near Rush Creek. There's a lot going on up there. So he was a huge, huge, huge hell.

And that's another one. I'm hoping to be able to... He's, I think, over in Portland, Oregon. So... All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question,

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I just listen to that one. And both of them are over in the blues, which is that way. Which is like an hour and a half, two drive. So they're close. That's doable, man. A lot of people are listening to this and be like, Mike, an hour and a half to two hours and you can be to the blues,

make it happen, you know? Yeah, I know. Some people are saying, but I know. I get it. I know. I was actually planning to go out Sunday, Monday, Tuesday this weekend to the Blues because it's like September. I drove to Mount St. Ellen's area. Again, just the, just being in that volcanic area is just. It's got to be crazy. I saw some documentaries about that eruption. That must have been wild.

Oh, my God. The landslide. Mike, let's finish. already we're close to the end which is wild. What? Yeah, I know. It's just like, let's let's end with this. So think of what are maybe a few let's say if there's people that are listening to us or like, oh, I want to get into like Bigfoot research and going out and looking.

What are some practical advice you have for people that are new to all this wanting to go out and look for themselves or for them? I hope that this doesn't blow up a lot of the people that I've spoken about's phones or Instagrams, but like don't be nervous to reach out to people. Yeah. Because the people like, I think Shane Corson was the first big person to just be like, I mean, literally that first response he sent back, here's my number. Yeah.

And I'm like, what? And I was mind blown. And my wife will tell you. I was like a kid in a pet shot. I was like, oh my God, oh, my God, I got to get my headphones. I mean, I was just through the roof excited to be able to talk to Shane. So it's don't be nervous. Ask questions.

Be humble to the, I mean, just be open. Be open to being taught. Be open to people criticizing your stuff. There was actually a picture I took of a goat with a broken neck. and random thing I found up in Bluff Creek area, but posting that online, all of the feedback, positive and negative, was great because of the learning aspect.

People were spouting off things that I'd never even thought of, but didn't even cross my mind. So that was awesome. Ask questions, be open, be teachable. I would advise against going too hardcore, into the books. Are there any particular books you might recommend for newbies, though? I would go for the old-timer, the John Green, Renee DeHendon, all of those books, because

I mean, I'm one for history, so I love those books. But the new ones, it's all, there's a few that stick out to me. So where Bigfoot walks, that was fantastic because that book, not only is it a big foot book, but it's a story about this guy that just takes off for a month in October, which is not really the time you want to take off into the dark divide. He just takes, but that's the time he had, takes off on this hike. And he's a lepidopterist. So he's into butterflies. Oh, yep, yep.

So he's, his main journey was to go discover, uh, new species of butterflies. Along the way, he saw a footprint. He heard noises at night. Bigfoot sort of trickled into his adventure through the dark divide. He met forest people or the loggers that would be all aggressive in every, I mean, it's just a fantastic book. It's not just Bigfoot, but you're along for the ride.

Can Gearhart's field guide to? So good. Big, yeah, I mean, just sort of the field guidey books, you can, you can latch on to two or three and then go from there. Yeah. That's because I have this giant bookshelf of books, and I'm just going to say, it's ridiculous how much money I've spent on books the past year alone, just getting into the Bigfoot stuff. But I've read five, and those are, those are, those are the Bluff Creek project. project where Bigfoot walks um field guide to Bigfoot the oh my gosh i'm skipping on it Jeffrey Meldrum's book oh Sasquatch Sasquatch uh legend turn yeah legend meets science

um that one took me a while that one in the Bluff Creek project those ones they took me a while but once you have that that base history and that much knowledge, everything else sort of starts sounding repeated, if that makes sense. And that's what my bookshelf now is turned into, is more than half of it is all, like, repeat info. It's great to have the books. Some of them are the, no, that's a ghost book. none of them are autographed but i it's just nope it's good it's like i have my bigfoot shelf and then i have my

ghost shelf and the ghost shelf is dwindling down and the bigfoot shelf is dwindling out i had some of ed and lorraine warren's books and like the first edition so it's like some ghost books i'm keeping but it's like like john greens on the trail uh bigfoot i have that original 19 i don't want to quote the year because i will I'll get it wrong. But some people. I mean, it's like a newspaper. It's the material of the sheet.

And it's in a dust jacket. And I'm like, I don't even want to touch it. So there's a couple of prize possessions. But it's really, I mean, learn it. Go out and do it. I hear a bunch that says, don't go out alone. If you know your stuff, just have faith in yourself. No, like, know your limits.

That's the biggest thing. That's number one. Know your limits. Know your limits. I went backpack. in Australia for a month. I flunked out of college, and that's what I wound up going. And so I know that I could handle myself out in the woods, and that's why I go out in

the woods alone. Like, I prefer being alone. It's me, the birds, the squirrels, and that's watch. I love it. Oh, Mike, that's some good advice and some solid book list for the new, new peeps out there. But thank you so much for hanging out. Mike, how can people keep up to date with what you're doing with your future Bigfoot adventures, all that? I would say the best thing and the one that I keep up most to date with is the Instagram.

Okay. Yeah, Instagram, Mike Casey, Bigfoot Hunter. I think that's what it is. No, Squatch Mike, what am I saying? I was like, I was thinking of the office when I read. That was the Facebook. Yeah, no, Squatch Mike. That's the Instagram.

that has, I mean, wintertime got a little slow on the Bigfoot realm. So there's a lot of pictures of my kids on there. But it's like Bigfoot themed pictures and Kong themed pictures. You know, I hope people come along with the ride because I do hope to get out there soon and a lot. I hope to meet a bunch of people. That's awesome. I'm so excited to be in this community. Yeah.

Good stuff. Thank you so much for coming on. Mike. Mike's going to hang out for a little bit longer in the after show portion for the Patreon. If you want to be part of that for future episodes, you can just go to patreon.com. forward slash the Bigfoot Society and help support the podcast that you love listening to every weekend. And get yourself an amazing mug like Mike has from Etsy. So all right. Thanks all for listening. And thanks Mike for hanging out. Thank you.

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