Bigfoot Society - Retired Law Enforcement Official Finally Reveals His Bigfoot Encounters

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

In this thrilling episode of "Bigfoot Society," host Jeremiah Byron sits down with retired law enforcement officer Chris Miller for a captivating discussion. Chris shares his incredible journey from being a police officer in Central Florida to becoming a deputy sheriff in North Carolina's picturesque mountains, and eventually establishing himself as a private investigator.However, life took an unexpected turn for Chris when he suffered a stroke in his spinal cord, rendering him unable to work. Chris is finally coming forward to share encounters from over his life that he just can’t explain.Being circled around a campsite in Madison County, North Florida.Whispering voices behind his house in North Carolina.A close encounter in the George Washington National Forest during a hunting trip. Join Jeremiah and Chris as they delve into the mysteries of these encounters, discussing the implications and possible explanations for these incidents. Tune in to this gripping episode of "Bigfoot Society" to unravel the truth behind what Chris encountered on his unforgettable journey.~If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast? Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!——Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR ——My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQy My Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below.(Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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Crunch, slam, crunch, bang. It was coming right at me. I'm frozen. I'm getting chills telling it right now. I wasn't having fun. Not a lot. It scares me, that scares me.

And I look up and I can't see my buddy because he's tying his shoes. And I'm trying to whisper his name. And the steps are still coming. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Five people are heavy football. heavy football right through the hardwood. All right, Bigf Society, welcome back.

I have a gentleman on the phone with me tonight. His name is Chris Miller. How are you doing tonight, Chris? Doing well, sir. I hope you are. Oh, doing great. It's a nice night. We were talking about that before the recording started,

and I'm out there in Iowa. We're having a nice summer night, not cold or anything, so I can't complain. but how are things going down your neck of the woods? Well, it's a nice cool spring evening here and in the mountains of North Carolina and have no complaints. Perfect.

Chris, are you in the western part of North Carolina or whereabouts? Are you at in the mountains? Yes, sir. I'm in the northwest corner near Virginia and near eastern Tennessee where the three states meet. I'm up in that area.

Okay. Interesting, interesting. Do you mind Sharon a few things, whatever you think is necessary before we get to talking about what you've noticed over the years. You have an interesting background story. Whatever you feel comfortable, Sharon, go right ahead. Okay.

I'm retired law enforcement. I was a police officer in Central Florida for many years and was very blessed to do many different aspects of law enforcement. And then the move to North Carolina up here in the mountains, I made it home permanently and started working as a deputy sheriff. And then after several years, I retired and opened my own business as a private investigator. But then I became injured and couldn't work anymore. I had a stroke in my spinal cord.

Didn't even know that could happen until it did. But that's actually how after six years as a private investigator, and I finally had to hang that up and I had a lot of downtime, obviously, and I started watching more and more television and browsing through YouTube and never thought about Bigfoot or softwatch or anything like that whatsoever.

But I just tripped across a couple YouTube videos and really for entertainment purposes only. And as I'm going through a couple of them, I just started recognizing things. to the point that I couldn't ignore it anymore. That kind of what brings us to that. Interesting. And over the years when you were in law enforcement in Florida,

your deputy sheriff in North Carolina, did you ever get any weird calls, any people reporting Bigfoot, or was that even on your mind at that time? It wouldn't even have been on my mind at that time. And no, I have not. I've gotten all kinds of crazy calls like every officer, probably around the world, everything from a wild drunk to a ghost.

Somebody reporting a ghost. You just never know what you're going to get, but never that. And actually, she surprises me a little bit as being a rural deputy sheriff up here in the mountains, especially some of the things that I've heard. And I'll talk to some people about that agree with the things that I heard. So if you don't mind Sharon, what are the things that you heard over the years that are starting to make sense as you start to look into Bigfoot? Yes, sir. The first one, and I know it sounds crazy, but I'm 100% confident on what I heard because it was clear as a bell.

And if not repetitive, giving me the opportunity to hone in on it, things like that. I just can't tell you what made them. And that's what has had me scratching my head the most over the years. But in approximately 1990, going way back in Madison County, Florida, which is in North Florida, Interstate 10 runs through there, a friend of mine who was also in law enforcement, he and I were up there camping and doing a little deer hunting. And a third party said, if you take my camper up there and put it on my property, I'll let you deer hunt. We didn't have to think twice.

We dragged the camper up there and was there to do a little deer hunting. But that, when I mean, it was in the middle of nowhere. It's in the middle of nowhere. I don't know what it's like now, but if you looked on a map, it's south of Interstate 10 in Madison County, Florida. I know we went five miles down just a sand road and never saw another sign of life other than, wildlife. And then you came to the property that was timber and that was where we were putting the camper. And so we made camp and put the camper up and got everything set up with this other person for when they bring their family up. And then so I knew it was a Monday. I can remember

I know it was a Monday evening because my friend is a big Miami Dolphin fan and he wanted to listen to the Monday night's a football game on the radio. So we had some steaks on the grill, some baked potatoes in the fire cooking and things like that and the game on. So I know it was after 9 o'clock. And we were at the edge of the area that had been timbered. And about 30 yards ballpark was the property line. And then it was really thick undergrowth. Don't know if you have much experience with the state of Florida or anywhere in the deep south.

Much like other places that have rhododendron in the mountains and stuff, you can't see 10 feet. It's just very thick with all kind of underbrush and swamp and everything else. And we were listening to the game. And it was a chilly night for North Florida. We were chilly that night. I remember that, which was nice. But we both kind of looked at each other as we noticed we were not listening to the game

because off of it would have been my left in the woods. in the woods beyond that 30-yard marker, we could hear something pretty good size walking and it was on two feet. Crunch, crunch, and it was breaking, it was breaking branches, heavy footsteps. I'm six foot to, two hundred and forty-five pounds and I could not make a heavy impact or stomp

crunching through the woods if I wanted to. It was very heavy. We both noticed it. And so we both stood up, walked over to the edge of the woods. And, of course, back then your flashlight, the old maglight didn't go real far. But it stopped. Not a sound. Because we turned down the radio.

Then we walked over there. Not a sound. And we're thinking, I don't know what that was. Because there are no people here around here from miles at that time anyway. We go back over, sit down, turn the radio up. crunch snap crunch definitely heavy

footsteps two feet walking trying to flank us going around us as if it didn't or he or it didn't want to be seen or discovered

it was trying to go around us and we turn the radio down get up walk over there stop dead silence we did this three times every time we would sit back down turn the radio up, it would start walking again on two feet. Real heavy, breaking branches. You could hear the leaf litter crunching down, the palm meadows as it moved through.

And what was, and then Alex said after the third time, it didn't, we didn't hear it anymore. It had moved off. We were not going there looking for it. That's for sure. And we blew it off. wasn't paying much attention to it because like I said before, Bigfoot would have been the last thing on earth I would have thought of thinking about. So we were on the way home the next day and he just glances over at me and goes, what the hell was that last night? I have no idea. And it was never discussed again, just like that.

Fast forward to, I'm listening to several videos on YouTube after my injury and I'm like, I'm hearing my hunting scenario over and over again with other people having other encounters. So that's what started really piquing my interest and going back in time there on that. While I lived up here in the mountains, my property bordered the Blue Ridge Parkway, which is federal lanes and nothing but woods. And so I'm up and down a lot. all night long, just from side effects. And it was October. It was a pro- I think it was 2019.

I'm pretty confident, but it was October. And I couldn't sleep. It was a chilly night. And I stepped that on to my carport. And I'm looking, I'm just staring off behind my house, which is nothing but just dark black woods. Actually, white pine thicket for, probably 70 yards and then hardwoods from there.

And so you get to the parkway and then more of the same on the other side of the Blue Ridge Parkway. And there's just, you look at a map again, you'll see that right around that area, there's just, you're very close to a whole lot of nothing, national parks, state parks. Just multiple areas of just hundreds and hundreds of acres of nothing, if not thousands of acres. and some looking on my carport staring out back, I'm looking into pitch black. The street is behind me, and there's a street light there. So I'm still a wedded to anything that's in the woods looking back at me.

I'm just standing there with my hands in my pocket, trying to make myself be able to go back to sleep again. When I start noticing, I can hear voices. and they were very heavy voices, but whispers. And I do have a neighbor to one side of me, and I'm looking over, but he's to the side. And I'm looking over, and their house is, like I said, at 2 o'clock in the morning, their house is all pitch black. And they're retired and elderly, so they're not up late anyway.

If they're sundown, they're gone. And, but I'm hearing these three voices. And what I forgot to mention is what parallels parkway in the mountains in North Carolina is what's called the Mountain to Sea Trail. And it goes from the mountain all the way to the sea. It goes right behind, it went right behind my house at the time, right where I live. And you hear people on it during the daytime and things like that, echoing voices and stuff. But you can always tell there's just someone hiking through and you can hear voices echoing up towards my yard. Once the sun goes down, you can't see your hand in front of your face back there, literally.

And there was no light, nothing back there whatsoever, just blackness. And these voices were inaudible. It was like real deep, real moderate tone, and then a lighter tone, three distinct voices, lack of a better term. and they were like a heavy whisper back and forth at each other back and forth like that. It sounded really weird. I know this sounds weird, but I listened to it for a good 30 seconds or so,

and I'm like, in the heck am I listening to? There's no way there's someone back there. And again, if it's someone whispering, I could not whisper as low and heavy rumbled as this whisper, what these whispers were.

And then what scared me to pieces was the loudest, frisbous, clearest wood knock. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a Shell Fuel Rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday. You get more rewards, more savings, and more special offers. Earn rewards when shopping, dining out, and fueling up. And all of that becomes fuel savings when you're at the pump. See, there are no. No extra steps and no changes to your routine.

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which still was over 100 plus yards, 200 yards behind my house. I'm guessing again, in the ballpark. And second, the instant that knock, because the knock interrupted the voices were going on when all of a sudden, crack, and then dead silence, you could hear a pin drop for 10 miles away. I don't know what happened to that because the door did not hit me on the ass as I went in the house. So that was in 2000, October of approximately 2019. And in March of 2020, in that same home, that same location, I was in bed. My window was up, window at the foot of the bed, at the head of my bed, I'm sorry. And I'm watching TV.

It's approximately 10.30 at night. I'm starting to doze off a little bit, which is my objective. Gunfire wakes me up. And once I'm awake and startle, awake and alert, I still hear approximately eight to ten rounds from two different firearms. Pow, pow, bang, pow, bang, bow, back and forth. Coming from the Blue Ridge Parkway. And then it went dead silent.

And after it went dead silent, I heard to me was distinct, was the older model Dodge pickup, the old hemie, and those old dodges, it started up and then just rumbled northbound on the parkway. In my head, it was a gunfight between two different people, and that's what woke me up. That's what it was in my mind when I heard that, and I thought, oh, my gosh, there's someone going to be laying there next to their car or something on the parkway. So I called 911 and informed them, and the sheriff's office was en route. right after that within

just a minute behind, but an angle behind my house but still in the woods coming from the parkway coming from exactly in the woods from where the gunfire would have been and this was March in the mountains

so everything is still winter and this was definitely a live tree. It was a live branch because if you break a white pine or a dead branch that just has that snap to it.

But if you break a live branch, especially one of decent size, you can hear the fibers cracking before it snapped. So this was, like I said, within a minute or less after, and I'm not timing any of this, but right after the gunfire, I'm grabbing the phone to call 911 when this happens. I hear the branch break, and it sounded like a this size branch, because you could like You're those fibers and then pop. And then all of a sudden, within five seconds after that, 10 seconds after that, a huge tree knock right there.

Wham, just one knock. But wood on wood, clear, crisp, slam, wood on wood knock, then couldn't hear anything. The sheriff's office arrived. They drove all over the place. There was no other vehicle on the parkway. There was no signs of any sort of altercation or anything on the parkway. So my mind starts running.

I know what I heard. I know. And two other people saw something then. And my guess would be they were together and were two people together shooting at something on the parkway and then drove off. I don't know. But that's what goes on.

That's what my mind puts together. Once the sheriff's office says, everything seems to be clean and clear. There's nothing around. and especially with that tree break and wood knock within an extremely short time right after the gunfire. The two incidences that I had in North Carolina, I'm shocked. I never got a call about that because I worked midnight shift before I became a detective. But I never got a call about anything like that or even close to it.

I believe it was back in, again, November of 2019. Again, I've been watching more and more YouTube channels, getting more and more interested. I'm now hearing things that I'm 110%. I know what I'm listening to, and I know there's no people there, and there is nothing else that I can think of, as I told one guy when I told somebody,

and he pretty much didn't believe me, but I'm just like, hey, buddy, you tell me, please answer that question for me. That's what's been driving me crazy. Because I know what I'm listening to, but there's nothing that makes those noises or those sounds in the woods like that, any regular animal.

I've grown up in the woods all up and down the East Coast. I've been deer hunting for the last 30-plus years before I got her turkey hunting. I still deer hunt. I just got to modify it. And I grew up in the country from southern Maryland to, Florida to the mountains and my entire family as well.

So I've gotten pretty used to recognizing the majority of what's in the woods by when I hear it or when I see it or something like that. And from my tree stand over many years in different locations, I've seen multiple bear and I've had bear in my yard multiple times. A whole different scenario. not even the same. What I was hearing and what I'm listening to, it was not an animal that I know of, period. And there were no people there. So that's what has me scratching my head

over these last few years. It was November. It was muzzleloader in Virginia. And I think it was 2019. And there is a hunting cabin I go to every year. My several family members and friends we meet. And it's several acres surrounded by, to my understanding, a couple hundred thousand acres of the George Washington National Forest in the state of Virginia. It's just really big woods, especially to the East Coast, big woods.

And bordered by even more big woods, because where I'm at is pretty darn close to West Virginia. And West Virginia is pretty much the same way, just national forest, after national forest. and this property has been in my family since 1970. And we go up every year and deer hunt. I go up for bow and I try muzzleloader and rifle, or at least one of them, was up there muzzle over this year in 2019. We're getting up to hunt. It's pre-dawn.

It's a real dark morning. Probably an hour before the sun's supposed to come up. I walk out in the cabin. I go down to my side-by-side. to get something out of it and I'm getting ready to go to my ground blind and I'm looking down I'm about 40 yards from the cabin

and the front porch light is on the cabin and that's it. Other than that, you can't see your hand in front of your face. It's just black all around you and I'm trying to grab something in my side by side without using my light which was foolish but while I'm doing that my buddy is up on the porch bent over putting on his shoes so you really can't see him but he is under the light up on the porch

and the rest of them are inside the cabin hadn't come out yet on the other side of me i hear from a reasonable distance away very heavy footfalls two feet guaranteed and this terrain is very rocky with a lot of leaf litter there's rocks all over the place with leaf litter everywhere. But when I was healthy, if you try and just walk through there with no light or flashlight whatsoever, you're just going to go to the ground. And whatever was moving pretty fast.

And it was going like it was going to go past the cabin, but it was angling towards me getting a little closer because it was at a distance and getting closer and closer and heavier and heavier. And just in that fresh leaf litter, just crunch, slam, crunch, bang, two and it was coming right at me. I'm frozen and I'm getting chills telling it right now. I'm frozen and I wasn't having fun and not a lot scares me to the point of trying to

being dumb about it, but that scares me. And I look up and I can't not see my buddy because he's tying his shoes and I'm trying to whisper his name and the steps are still coming. boom boom boom bi-petal heavy footstall right through the hardwoods and I finally am like oh so-and-so like as loudest whisper I could

he leans up and goes what those steps stop dead in their tracks and then that was like a fast like fat but still bipedal heavy footfall running away for me I almost went right back in the cabin, took off all my stuff, and said, nope, I'm not going out. I asked my buddy if he heard that.

He said, I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't hear nothing. I said, wrong. So I did go out. I went on to my ground line. And I'm later on that day and end of the evening, I'm talking to some other guys that were out there at the cabin with. And I told them what I heard. And I said, I can tell you what I heard.

I just can't tell you what made it. They're laughing and joking. It was a deer. It was a bear. I'm like, okay. Yeah. But then one of my family members starts telling me, we have our older relatives, the previous generation,

they built wooden homemade ladder stands in certain locations throughout our property along the National Forestry. along the National Forest. And they've been there for 25, 30 years. And they're, like, ratcheted into very large trees with three or four-inch heavy big screws type stuff. They're not coming off. And anybody just meandering through wouldn't have the equipment.

You know what I mean? Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of a National Force, but I have a battery operated saws all or I've got the ratchets I need to take this thing off. And who wants a 30-plus-year-old warped tree stand that we actually don't even use anymore? But my family member says, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you I was down in the so-and-so area down there. I said, yeah. He said, the stand was gone. That's what do you mean the stand was gone.

He said, the lab stand's gone. I said, the ladder stand can't be gone unless you went down there and removed it. And why would you do that? He said, no, I started looking around for it. And I found it about 40 yards away from the tree ripped into pieces, just shredded. And I'm like, I saw how those things were installed. I said, what do you think did that? And, of course, you know where my head went.

By this point, my head's there. And he's, I don't know, bear, I guess. I said, are you serious? You're going to say it was a bear. I said, I don't believe and Black Bear has the strength to rip a stand completely off a tree. Maybe it does, but I don't see how it's going to do it without hands to go up onto the stand or get high enough and wrap your hands around it

that he said it was ripped off the tree. His words. then drug and then ripped into pieces and pulled apart. And I'm like, so that was pretty crazy when he told me that. Of course, he said, yeah, it was a bear. And I'm like, are you sure? I'm like, are you really sure it was a bear? I said, I don't know, man. And then the subject was changed. But that also was up at the cabin. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a Shell Fuel Rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday. You get more rewards, more savings, and more special offers.

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there's nobody around for a long way. It takes a full-wheel drive to get in there, and it's just a long way in the middle of nowhere. And if there's any other hunter close by, he's interested in getting to his band just like me. And he's not going to go moving through those woods with no flashlight. It's not going to have to,

I would challenge in those areas where I'm at. People that live in those areas know what I'm talking about. You're just not going to go barren off through there with nothing. No lights. know nothing. You're in the mountains, rocks all over the place, leaf litter covering the rock, and you just end up on the ground of the busted nose quick. But I would love to know what these things I'm hearing in the woods are.

That's for sure. You've had some really interesting situations, Chris. if there's listeners that are familiar with these areas and they're like that sounds like something that I experienced too need to put it in the comments let us know but what so you've got this mind that has this background of law enforcement so you're I'm going to guess when this stuff is happening to you you're you're heavily analyzing or what kind of mindset are you in when there's this huge bipedal creature it's coming toward you i don't know how i would handle that to be honest i have to say that i froze i not like in a fear type way but yeah i was scared but i just froze because i did not want it to see me i knew there was never one moment in my mind that it was ever a human period never and from that when i hear when i like when i heard that it's a couple of seconds of quickly trying to go through the process of elimination.

That's not a couple of deer trot in my way. That's not a buck pushing a dough my way. That's not a deer at all. That's not anything small. That is heavy. That's big. It's breaking branches on the ground. And it's on two feet.

That's not a bear. I've had bear come under my tree stand. You never hear a thing. And then sometimes they sound like a freight train going through the woods, I guess. It just depends. But my experiences with bear in the woods is they're very quiet. That's been my experiences. And this was just as it walking towards me, the process of elimination went pretty quick

because it was pretty crystal clear what I was listening to. And then before I knew it, I'm trying to get my buddy's attention and then the thing took off and took off fast. And it didn't go super far before it stopped dead. Deadness tracked, I should say. It was like in my mind, it ran heavy on two feet, but it was. It probably didn't go 45, 50 yards and then stopped. It didn't.

It was fading away, but I could still hear it clearly, and then it just stopped. And, you know, so after I'm talking to my friend, I was thinking, is it out there watching us right now? Because I never heard it run away. Just get out of my range, and then it went quiet. Chris, I'm sure you thought of this day a few times. in your mind. Imagine if the creature had kept coming, how were you prepared to react? Do you ever think through what would I have done if it actually didn't end up going away?

Yeah, I have thought about that way too many times. To be honest with you, there's a, I'm very ethical hunters the way I was raised, the way my dad taught me how to hunt. however if i'm up in the middle of national force i'm probably going to have a pistol with me i'm just going to have a pistol with me and it's just for myself and that's it if i need it but it was in my backpack and that's a carry a 45 and it's in my backpack and like i said i was being a fool and trying to grab something with no light so i never would have got to my 45 which was next to me in the backpack on the seat of the side by side and my muzzle order was still up on

on the porch with my buddy. It was loaded, but no cap, no primer cap on. I'm not going to put that on until I get to my stand or the ground blind now. But so all of that being said, because I quickly was thinking, I wasn't really thinking it at the moment afterwards. I'm thinking about it. And I'm like, I couldn't have got to the 45. The muzzle order was up on the couch.

I probably would have literally another two seconds. I think, and I'm guessing, and I'm not trying to dramatize. But I probably would have jumped up and started yelling, just yelling at the top of my lungs, and just started yelling. And pray it took off running, and that definitely would have also got my buddy's attention directed towards me, and I would have been yelling loud enough to bring everybody that was in the cabin, which is four more people, bring them out of the cabin. You know what I mean?

It's not a big place. So that's probably what I would have done. Decision, don't know. But that's all that comes to mind at the time. Sure. Or sense of thought about it. What do you think it is that we're dealing with when we talk about Bigfoot or Sasquatch? There's a lot of different ideas floating around.

And have you come to a decision in your mind what you think you're dealing with out there? obviously to me you can't help but not think about it more than I care to and I know it's Genesis 6-4 in the Bible talks about the Nephilim so is that some form of relative or some form of Nephilim I am a I'm a man of faith and I do believe that what the Bible says and so is that what it is? I don't know. Or is it what do they call that really large monkey giganticus, I guess they said, where they have proven there was a bipedal ape approximately that size in Asia.

My best guess would it be somewhere a genetic relative of the, of like, gigantic epithicus just over several thousands and thousands of years it is developed into what it may be now or maybe it has something to do with genesis six four i i think it's one of those two but i really obviously i don't know but i think it's flesh i think it's flesh and bone and blood i don't think it's, I don't have any reason to think it's like something from somewhere else. Gotcha. Very interesting. The cool thing about this show is I talk to a lot of different people.

There's a lot of different ideas out there. And right now there's no wrong or right answers, no matter what people may say. Going back to the October 2019. I believe was when that account was it was back when you were near the mountain to sea trail. Do you mind, I don't know if you're able to share what county that was in? Ash County. Ash County.

Ash, Ashe. Not many people get it confused with NASH with an N, but that's down east. That's down the east coast. Okay. So Ash County. Yes, sir. Ash County borders,

Virginia and Tennessee. It's the very northwest corner. The southwest corner does go way west, way down there towards Chattanooga, Tennessee, and way down there and drops on top of Georgia. But I'm up in the corner, like I said, near Tennessee and Virginia. Gotcha. There's a few things that I noticed about. your account from that area that were really interesting.

One is I've never heard an account where there were voices heard and then a would not actually interrupted the voices. That is just the most unique thing that I've heard in a while. It's very cool. And maybe it's due to my, I've only been doing this for four or five years, but I've yet to hear one that sounds like that. Listeners, if you've heard one like that too, let me know. but you mentioned there's like the whispering voices.

Yes, sir. Have you ever heard anything that sounds similar to those whispering voices? I've heard things on the internet or YouTube, like the Sierra sounds or the different chatter. I've heard those things on television. Yes, I have. I honestly don't know if I'd heard them at that point or not. But, I mean, it wouldn't have mattered.

I'm very confident in what I was listening to. Oh, definitely. Did they sound similar to the Sierra sounds, though, you think? No, if I had, no, sir, I'm sorry, if I had to put it in some form of a category, I would have put it towards what is the gentleman's name in Tennessee he has

he does a lot of hiking in the Smoky's Carpenter last name of Carpenter Oh Scott Carpenter I see a television I see his television or his YouTube channel and apparently yes sir that's him

and apparently he has recordings of some form of chatter and he sent it's on the television. It's on his YouTube channel, as well as Survivor Man went out there and did a full episode in the Smokies, including interviewing him and listening to these recorded sounds. And so if I had to put it in a category, but the ones that Scott Carpenter recorded are very loud,

like an argument, like screening, yelling. That's what it sounds like to me anyway. What I was listening to sounded like that, but in a heavy whisper. they were definitely whispering and it was or talking very lowly because it was very heavy and forced like that very low and very low one of them was lower than I could go and I can go low I can't go as low as the one I heard and one of them was a very but very heavy sounding even though the tone they were different tones they were all very heavy sounding and I don't know how to explain it other than that. I suspect, and if I'm trying to unfold that in my mind after it happened.

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That took me on my feet. I was out of there. But like I had mentioned, I was being silhouetted by a streetlight. So I'm wondering if there were three back there towards the mountain of sea trail and maybe one milling a little closer towards my house, it very easily could have seen me and watched every move I make because I'm silhouetted on my carport, but I'd never see anything back there other than blackness.

And maybe it read in my body language that, hey, I'm listening to something here because I moved around on the carport and was listening. They're sound asleep. There's their car. They're all blacked out for the night. It's 2 a.m. They're not home over there.

It's straight back woods. It's black nothing and nobody's there. And I'm listening to three different heavy whispers. And I'm sure at that time, I think I'm by myself. So I'm sure my body language was pretty easy to read that I was trying to listen to something. And maybe it was, the fourth was trying to tell the other three to shut up. I don't know. That's what went through my mind afterwards.

Is that what it was? I have no idea. but I will stand by what I heard. I knew what I was listening to, and I was stone sober, wide awake, unfortunately, what awake. And I was just walking around, bored. Board of stuff on television, I couldn't sleep. And it was not uncommon for me to walk out onto the carport or out to my garage or wherever,

different portions of my life and mill around. And I was out there on my carport when all this unfolded. Wow. Chris, I've talked to a lot of people from eastern Tennessee, from western North Carolina, and there's something about this area that there's a lot of wild bigfoot stuff or just weird stuff that happens in this area. Is that something you've ever thought about? Like, why is it that it just seems to really be right in this area for some reason? I have thought about it, and it would be just sheer speculation.

because I obviously don't know. I have heard of other big foot sightings in different portions of the state, but like you mentioned, I've heard of several watching YouTube again, several up and down eastern Tennessee, western North Carolina and the mountains, southwest Virginia,

up to West Virginia, western Virginia, all the way up down to northern Georgia, into Alabama, and it's like that Appalachian corridor, just like the Appalachian Trail. I wonder if that is a traveling corridor for them where they, because if you look on a map,

starting from the Northern Georgia area, I'll just start there. It's easy to find one link to the next, from one national force to the next national force to the next national force, going all the way up behind of the Appalachians, almost all the way up, until you get up into little pits of Maryland and Pennsylvania,

and then it changes a little bit. But especially through this area, it's very thick, very thick, very green, very rural, and just lots and lots of forests. Again, that would be a speculation, but that would certainly give them food, cover, water, and a pretty reasonable travel route, especially if they do have the physical ability

that is suspected with the intelligence level that is suspected, I think it would probably pretty easy for him, to be honest with you. I think that makes total sense, Chris, for sure. You think about it, because of that trail, we've left that area pretty good, especially for a creature that would want to be traveling, man, all the way up to northern Maine. We know that there's some wild stuff up there.

There's no doubt about it. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Maine has big woods like they do out west. Maine's a pretty rural place. Yes, sir. It's on a crazy, and again, I promise you, I'm telling you the truth,

and I know this is a lot of weird stuff, but it is everything I've heard, and I just cannot explain. And through process of elimination, like everything, I know that didn't do it. I know this didn't make that sound. There's no way that could have made this sound. I know this didn't make that sound,

and there's no way there was anybody else back there. What else has done made these noises? Because I know what I'm listening to. And I know I'm repeating myself on that. I guess I'm trying to just drive a point that I'm, I wouldn't be on the phone with you if I, to the evening, if I weren't 100% confident at what I was listening to. But until I put my eyes on it, I can't say exactly what it

I can certainly tell you what it wasn't. Yeah, there you go. Chris, if you could think for a minute, imagine there's a person listening that they haven't told anyone what's happened to them regarding Bigfoot because they're afraid they're going to get made fun of or something of that. Can you share with them like you're talking to them?

Why is it important to share the things that you've encountered to get it off your chest? Being honest for me personally, just contacting you made me feel better. Because I don't know why, but these different things that have happened to me are on my mind a lot of this why. I'm not the kind of guy that walks away,

not knowing why. And I'm like, why, why? What am I listening to? What is it? More of a... What am I listening to? What is it out there? And I have tried to talk to a couple people before, and they were nice enough not to laugh at me,

but they may as well have. I just didn't talk about it anymore for that reason. But when I reached out to you, I instantly felt better, and I actually am, to be honest with you, feeling a little relieved, having this conversation with you, finally telling somebody that, may actually... believe you. And to add to that would be just like the person that might be out there listening. If no one steps up and says, hey, I heard this over here. Hey, I saw that. We don't know if nobody heard, nobody saw or a hundred people heard and a hundred people saw. So as one person

says something, usually another one might say something and another one might say something. And then the naysayers may actually start paying a little more attention. Because that's all I've told a couple guys is, go do your own research, man. That's what I did. I did it by sheer coincidence because I was bored because I was hurt. So I started watching it. I said, but then I started, there's just, to me,

there's too much out there to ignore. And that's even not even counting the things that I've heard. There's too much out there to just ignore. And the more honest people get out there and tell the, truth, A, it's going to make you feel better. That makes me feel better to finally get it off my chest. But also, you could be giving someone the green light to step up to tell them or tell their story.

And then it kind of domino effects from there. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. No, I agree 100%. I believe you, Chris, I'm glad that you were able to share what you experienced with me. Thank you, Chris. Appreciate you. Listening to me.

So if anyone that's listening to this, if you're on the podcast, you can hop over to YouTube, use the comments there. If any of the stuff that Chris has shared tonight, if that reminds you of something or you experience something similar in the same areas,

definitely leave that in the comments. We might be able to connect some dots through that and get Chris some more information. but thanks so much for spending some time with me tonight, Chris. It's been a really fun chatting with you. And if anything else ever comes out, don't be afraid to reach out, man. I appreciate it.

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