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Episode Date: October 31, 2025

What happens when a seasoned hunter from California sees something impossible just after sunrise — a massive black figure walking smoothly through 7-foot brush in the Sierra Nevadas, only to vanish ...before his eyes? In this gripping episode, we hear from Jordan, a 37-year-old outdoorsman whose years of archery hunting took a shocking turn. He recounts not only his initial visual encounter with what may have been a Sasquatch, but also bone-chilling screams in the middle of the night and a mysterious fleet of black government SUVs appearing days later. You’ll hear about the golden hour sighting, robotic movements, high-step walking through thorns, and trees violently swaying with no wind. This isn’t just another story — it’s a revelation that sent Jordan on a deep dive into the world of Sasquatch. Buckle up for “Revenge of the Sierra Sasquatch.”🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Selection varies by location. See Lowe's.com for details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Starting point is 00:02:12 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Jordan tonight. Jordan is a listener who reached out to me via email. He's from California. He's had some really interesting things that have happened over the year. So Jordan, I'm so glad that we are on the phone together tonight and we're able to have this conversation. I'm going to let you go ahead and
Starting point is 00:02:42 take it from here, my friend. Sounds good. First thought, Jeremiah, just wanted to say thank you for giving a platform for people to get experiences off their chest and just discuss. these things. But to start off, I'm 37 years old. I have been hunting with my dad since about the age 10 or 11. Kind of always been a little tag along at first. And then I got into it for myself about a decade ago. Had an old boss that actually gave me one of his hand me down compound bows. And I just fell in love with that aspect of hunting, not really so much rifle hunting, but just fell in love with being in the outdoors. I like hiking, hunting, of course, camping, everything that goes along with it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I'm just getting an appreciation of nature. So basically, my dad and me have been hunting at the same spot for about the last 10 or 11 years in northern California. And it is about, I want to say about an hour and a half from South Lake Tahoe. which a lot of people will be familiar with that area. And we always would go up a day or two before opening weekend of our tree season, get set up, get camp set up, get the dogs familiar with all the areas, basically just the normal prepping, getting food ready,
Starting point is 00:04:16 just ready to go for the opening weekend. So about 5.15 in the morning is when we step out of the trailer that we camp in. And we do our usual just loading our packs up, checking to make sure we have water. Always got to make sure you have a little toilet paper in your hunting pack just in case. Also, my dad, he was accompanying me on this trip, as he usually does. And we started loading our gear up, I'd have to say 515, like I was saying. And then I always have a habit of once I get all my camo gear on, once I make sure my backpack is stocked up for the day. General, just your supplies, maybe a couple snacks, a couple granola bars, things like that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I ended up strapping on my vinyl harness setup, which I carry a little rangefinder that connects on a retractable cord to that. So at that point, sun is starting to come up. It's got that kind of hazy golden hour, so to speak. Things are starting to come clear. I have a ritual of always checking my binoculars, making sure they're adjusted, making sure I can see things clearly, check my rangefinder, make sure the battery is charged up on that. generally go through. I'm very routine oriented, so I'll go through sort of a checklist,
Starting point is 00:05:56 make sure binoculars set up, range finder is good to go, battery-wise, it's good to go. And the campsite that we stay at, it has lakes, and there's a lower campsite, and then there's a road that cuts in between both lakes, and then there's an upper campsite, which is what we prefer to stay at, but this time, just because if it's being it's being busy or busier, we were staying at the lower campsite, which, I mean, they're all great views, weather's beautiful up there. It's gorgeous where we camp at. So in the meantime, I'm talking to my dad. I got my vinyl harness set up on. I'm just checking stuff because we have seen deer actually above the second campsite,
Starting point is 00:06:47 sometimes in the morning moving. For anybody who's not familiar with deer, hunting right when the sun comes up early morning is usually when they move middle of the day once it gets warmer they're bedded down in thickets brush it's very hard to track them and at evening they come out so I'm doing my normal scanning the hillside above the upper campsite when I start seeing movement coming out of a thicket of trees headed towards a lake or the the lakes that we stay at. I'm chatting it up with my dad. We're joking.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I think he's drinking a little bit of coffee. And I'm eating cereal out of a little styrofoam cup or styrofoam bowl. And I started seeing what at first I thought was possibly a bear walking towards the lakes. It continued to travel towards the lakes. but the odd thing was is it was clearly walking bipedally upright and it was also
Starting point is 00:07:58 making I could see it stepping over falling trees branches it just moved very efficiently and it was very comfortable walking upright so it kept heading towards
Starting point is 00:08:14 the lakes and I was looking at it with the naked eye and then switching in between looking back at it with binoculars. I kept watching it heading closer and closer to the lakes. And the sun is still rising. We're getting a late start on the hunt that morning. I pushed it out as far as I could. But eventually we had to take off.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So I kept watching it as long as we could. It kept heading in the same direction from the hill, from the mountain kind of hill above the lakes headed towards the lakes as the sun's coming up and we're thinking
Starting point is 00:08:54 we got to get in the vehicle head to the trailhead and take off from there to go hunting for the AM the sun keeps coming up and as it should have been more visible this upright walking
Starting point is 00:09:10 what we assumed was a bear maybe a hiker maybe somebody wearing all black just disappeared. So it was about a, I'd say a good one to three minutes that I was watching it. And I just noticed that it was walking really well and it was also going upright. And it was also going through some really thick brush that was, I'm guessing, 200 to 300 yards away from where we were the campsite, whatever it was very big. And the weird thing is when you see something like that, your brain goes through a checklist
Starting point is 00:09:59 of what it has to be or things that you know that it has to be. So it went from the discussion that we were having was, oh, it's a bear that has an injured front paw that's possibly adapted really well walking upright to, no, there must be a guy out here that's really tall, wearing all black, has a black hoodie on, and he's also walking through thick brush, buck brush, headed to these lakes, which also didn't really make much sense at the time. As the morning went on, we discussed it a little bit, and at that point, we were just focusing on the hunt that we had in front of us and hoping we get some action. And as, as As time went on that day, nothing weird happened the rest of the day. Business as usual, we went through our hunts, didn't see anything, but we did get one heck of a workout in.
Starting point is 00:10:59 In the afternoon, I found myself thinking about it again and thinking, okay, maybe it was just a hiker, maybe you see, we've seen weird things while hunting. people that seemed out of place in that area or people walking through the middle of thickets of trees. They weren't wearing hiking gear, just different things. I had to go through a checklist multiple times thinking what exactly it was that we saw. A few days passes and generally we stay about four to five days up there on opening weekend, which is the third weekend of August here in California for our tree season. and my curiosity got the better of me. So later on, in that same trip, we end up hiking and hunting the hills and mountains directly above the upper campsite.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I go, I end up deciding to walk over to that area of thickets and brush where we saw something a few mornings before. and I go up to that area and I notice that it is extremely tall so the brush that I saw from a distance that didn't seem that tall ended up being at least my guess six to seven feet at the top whatever was walking through that area
Starting point is 00:12:25 happened to be at least a shoulder and head length above that brush we thought that was really odd and then we made jokes that, oh, it had to be a retired NBA basketball player was wearing all black, had to have a black hoodie on, and he decided to walk to the lakes from wherever he was camping. After I came to think about it more and more, it just made no sense that somebody would walk through thick brush that contains storms and stuff going to this lake. when there's openings on both sides of it, there's areas that people have walked to those lakes, and it just, nothing was adding up, really, about it. And to add another thing about it, you could clearly see what we saw lifting its legs, stepping over small brush, branches, possibly, but had such a effortless walk down the side of a fairly steep terrain.
Starting point is 00:13:32 which also made me think that it wasn't a hiker and definitely was not anybody human walking down there. Another weird thing about all this is when it should have been visible. When the sun was coming up right before we took off from camp, it had just completely disappeared as if the event had never happened, which was pretty crazy to think about and to this day still has me stumped. So we've been hunting up until last year was our last year hunting at this area because my dad ended up moving out of state and he's living in the area now that has some great hunting. So I'll probably be going over there this archery season. But a few seasons later, I would have to say probably about one, probably a year or two after the main sighting happened or my first experience. happened. We were tent camping this time instead of staying in a trailer because we were only
Starting point is 00:14:39 going a couple days and it is pretty difficult to get into the area that we stay at. So we decided just we're going to drive camp, we're going to head up there and hopefully make something happen in a few days instead of staying four or five days like we normally do during opening weekend. About on the first night that we were in camp, same campsite that we always go to, our same general area, same two lakes that we always hunt at during archery season opening weekend. We hear something in about two or three in the morning, and it is very loud to the point that it wakes me and my dad up from our dead sleep. And it sounded as, almost like a, I know this sounds crazy, but it sounded somewhere between a howl of a
Starting point is 00:15:34 owl mixed with the bark of a dog and it was just very loud. We get up in our tent and we're sitting up and we're listening and it keeps going on. We're guessing that it had to be maybe 100, 150 yards from like the campsite on the lower lakes that we were staying at and the hill behind it and we heard other people getting up and there was other campers next to us and you could tell too you were seeing flashlights turning on and stuff so we know other people definitely heard that and I've been in areas where there's mules and donkeys and near pack stations and they do make noises that are somewhat terrifying at first when you hear or if you're not used to those type of sounds it can be pretty, it's pretty shocking some of the noises that they can make on the middle of the
Starting point is 00:16:30 middle of night that you'll hear. But where we were staying at, it was, there's no horses up there, no mules, and it did not sound like that. I've been, like I said, around horses, mules, donkeys, and that was definitely not what that was, but it was an extremely loud noise that sounded like a combination of multiple animals. And the funny thing is, it almost sounded like something that would be off a Jurassic Park, which I thought was really odd. And no animal that's up there makes a noise like that. You have mountain lions, you have bears, of course, dears, and nothing makes that loud of
Starting point is 00:17:18 audible noise and it had a certain pitch and a tune to it that was just odd. It was very odd to hear it. I have a question. Sorry, I have a question real quick. When you heard these noises, were they affecting you in any way? Mentally, physically, did they make you feel off? Anything like that? The strangest thing is, Jeremiah, when we heard that, it almost had an effect that made you want to go see what it was. if that makes sense. I know talking about it sounds crazy, but it was really weird. It almost drew to the sound.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And I'm a pretty, I would say a pretty light sleeper, as in the fact that if I hear noises and stuff, I'm always a little bit on the edge of the mountains. Just being out there and stuff, I always keep an eye to things. My dad is the exact opposite. He's the guy that you say,
Starting point is 00:18:13 hey, what was that? And he just, oh, go back to sleep. This time, it actually woke both of us up. and it probably had been going on for 10 to 15 minutes at least before it woke us up, because I remember hearing it while I was asleep. But it definitely had an effect on us that wasn't necessarily a scary thing, but more so as in it made us really intrigued, which I thought was really weird considering the type of noise that it was,
Starting point is 00:18:44 it just wasn't anything I've ever heard, ever being in the mountains. So we continued for, like I said, the last 10 to 11 years. We've been hunting that same area. Last year, it was our last season that we were going to be going up there for opening our tree. And there is, so give a little context to this, when you head to the two lakes that we camp at and we hunt out of about 45 minutes up the road, there's a more, commercial lake. I'm not a commercial, but it's more of a lake that you get a lot of people from
Starting point is 00:19:20 the Bay Area. A lot of city people go to that lake because it has a regular asphalt road to it and the lakes that we stay at, you have to travel on a dirt road for probably, I can't imagine how many miles, but it's about 30 minutes of just dirt road and it has switched back. It's a little more difficult to access. So we decide to drive to that lake. which has a convenience store there in like a little burger spot. Really good burgers, by the way. But we needed to get some more supplies. I think we were designed to actually make some hamburgers that day
Starting point is 00:19:55 and possibly got a couple sodas or maybe a beer or two. And so we're headed back on the road. And this is probably middle of the day, I want to say anywhere from 11 to 1 o'clock. We're driving back to that lake. and when we get close to the lake, we notice that there's about 50 government plate vehicles, Tahos, blacked out tallhows with government plates on them, which struck us as very odd in that area. Because you're at about 7,500 feet, 8,000 feet at that lake, which is a little bit lower than where we stay at. and there was a heavy presence of apparently government employees,
Starting point is 00:20:44 which, you know, it's just odd that either there was somebody very high profile that was in that area or there was some reason that they were up there. Considering the things that we've seen, heard, it just can't, it just, you start putting everything together. Just the optics of it were that they were there for some type of reason. And to this day, we don't know what exactly. It's definitely a very strange coincidence. And it makes you wonder, no doubt, especially that many vehicles. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And the thing is when you get to this lake, there's little areas on both sides of the road where people park at overtime, fishermen, people that are there for the day. families, they all park on both sides of it. And this wasn't like an incorporated parking lot at the convenience store. It was just on the side of the road. And we noticed so many vehicles on both sides. It really, it was really a mix your head. It's a head scratching moment for sure. I would like to take a few minutes and talk about your first initial siting, if that's all right. Yeah, no, that's problem. Yeah, no, it's no problem. Yeah, which is just an incredible, like that being your first interaction, you were looking through your rangefinder, right?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, range finder and binoculars. Anybody who knows me knows that I'm very detail-oriented, very routine about things. So in the morning when I'm getting ready and we're getting ready to either take off from camp or drive to some trailheads that we take off from, I always look through my binoculars and my rangefinder. and I go through the binoculars and the brand that I have has that normal little turn dial that is at your center between your eyebrows is where that is located. So I always tend to just check to make sure that it's focused and adjusted depending on if I'm wearing my reading glasses or my prescription glasses or not. Then I always try to make sure that's all dialed in for before we take off on the same thing with my range fire. I just want to make sure that the battery did tie overnight. or something was leaning on one of the buttons
Starting point is 00:23:02 when I put it up in my backpack the night before. It's just always have it. I just always want to make sure that my gear's ready to go when I take off from camp or whenever we do that hunt in the morning. Oh, absolutely, which I think is great. Remembering what you saw, I've got a few questions about that. Were you able to see what the gate of the creature was,
Starting point is 00:23:23 like how it was moving, how it was stepping? Yeah, you know, it was really weird about it. was that it moves so smoothly going downhill. The only thing that I can compare it to is if you were going down an escalator and you were walking down at the same time that you were going down that escalator. Interesting. Yeah. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary?
Starting point is 00:23:54 So let's pretend we're looking at the, we're looking at the legs, right? And you've got the, my anatomy is not a. up to par, but the part of the leg that is below the knee, which I believe would be the shin and that area below or above the ankle, was there anything out of the ordinary about the movement of the creature in that part of the leg? No, not that I noticed, but the area that it was traveling through for some portion of the siding of it did have a lot of thick brush. So for a portion of it, I was just, we were just seeing what look like somebody very tall with a hoodie on all black that was head and shoulders
Starting point is 00:24:41 going through some butt brush is what we call it which is not a technical term but sometimes there's some type of berries when you get to the high country they have thorns and um and so for a portion of it all i was seen was just shoulders and head above some very thick brush gotcha and then when it finally did go through that area and you could see stuff it just had a very unique look to it. The walk to it was it almost lifted its each individual foot as if you would if you were stepping through mud or you were trying to shake something off your feet as you were taking every step. It seemed like it was lifting its legs like it was stepping over things that were higher than were on the ground because if you were almost doing high knees or exaggerating how you were lifting
Starting point is 00:25:29 your feet, say you were walking over a small branch and you lifted your knees and feet very high to go over something small. It just, it looked odd. Gotcha. When you mentioned that it almost seemed like it was trying to shake mud off its legs. Were you able to see the legs at the time when it was making those kind of movements? Yeah, yeah, we could. It was probably only about a quarter of the time that I saw it, I was able to witness that. And the distance that we were at, which was, I'm guessing, about 200 to 300 yards, it was kind of hard to make out any discernible features. And the really odd thing is it was so dark that it looked almost like a shadow walking
Starting point is 00:26:19 through brush. Okay, gotcha. So it might be a little tough. Like if I was to ask when it was doing the shaking the mud off of its legs, do you remember if the, let's say the way it was walking, was it moving its legs just straight forward? Or was it doing a weird motion with its legs when it walked, when it was doing the mud shaking?
Starting point is 00:26:48 That's hard to say, really, from what I remember. But I guess the closest thing, that I could really compare it to is the movement as if people at the gym when they go on the stair machine and you see some people that do exaggerated movements when they lift their legs really high
Starting point is 00:27:08 but it was doing that while traveling downhill which struck me is really odd okay wow that is really interesting are you a guy who watch like watches Bigfoot videos and documentaries and stuff yeah honestly it So this is the backstory behind all this stuff. For years, my dad, he's a no-nonsense type of guy.
Starting point is 00:27:32 He's the one guy when crap hits the fan that you want to have with you. He's been hunting since he was probably early 20s, and this was four decades later. Okay. Three or four decades later. So he does in. Basically, we made jokes about it. And before that point, I had known about Bigfoot, and we'd change the channel and you'd find,
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm not going to say the exact show, but you find one on. And we would make jokes at it or say, or we thought it was something funny kind of in a way. We never took it serious. And then after the sighting happened that we had, plus some weird stuff that we added up together, it just changed my outlook at least on everything. And it got me to researching a lot more.
Starting point is 00:28:23 into that topic, and it's just something you can't shake. It's once you have an experience like that, there's probably honestly not one day that goes by then. I don't think about that in some capacity. Oh, absolutely. And I asked that because the really detailed questions I was asking right there as trying to see, I was just curious what you had noticed because there's an old documentary called Sasquatch Legends,
Starting point is 00:28:50 Legend Meets Science from Doug Hichek. He has a very detailed part about the supposed gate of a Sasquatch. And what you said was very interesting. I don't know if you've never watched that. I never have, no. Okay. So I think you can find it on YouTube potentially. And I would be very interested if you were to watch that and then contact me back.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And there's especially the part about the gate of the creature. And they try to replicate it. I'd be interested to see. But moving on. And I also do want to point out. that we had talked beforehand that this is your first time actually sharing all these things that have happened without outside the reach of people that are extremely close to you. This is your first time sharing that.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But so looking through your optics, how much of the details of the face and the body were you able to see? it from to start off because the sun was just starting to come up and everything had that orange hue to it so to speak it was really hard to get discernible features and the odd thing was it you could tell that it was my first thought was it was something covered in fur or hair that's why i first went to it had to be a bear and it was a bear that knew how to walk really well on two legs, its hind legs, but it was just so dark that you couldn't make out exactly what it was. And like I said, you just go through the gambit of it's got to be this, no, it has to be that,
Starting point is 00:30:27 it has to be this. And Bigfoot was honestly probably one of the last things on that list that was a possibility of what we saw. So it sounds like we're not seeing fine details like facial features, fine details, fine details like that hair color, although you did mention black. Yeah, it was jet. It was like pretty much a jet black from where we were standing. And even the odd thing was, is even looking at it with binoculars, the lighting wasn't the best, of course, but looking at it with binoculars, it was so dark in the shoulder
Starting point is 00:31:04 and neck and face region that it was almost impossible to make out any exact details, which I thought was really odd. Okay, yeah, that's very interesting. So definitely not seeing anything about the eyes. Yeah, no. Okay. Not that it else. I remember anything.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Did you see, let's say, did you notice like the shape of the head at all? Yeah, it was very rounded. That's why I first, it seemed very large. It didn't definitely, it almost seemed as if a person had a very, almost like a cloak or something you'd see in Star Wars or that type of loose garment over the head. So it was pretty big, a lot more big than what I would think a human's head would look like from that distance, that's for sure. So when you say like a cloak, are you kind of saying like maybe there was like a cone shape to the head? Yeah, it actually looked, it looked round to me. But it's just from where the shoulders went to the head, it didn't go like a humid wood where you have your clavicle and then it goes into your neck.
Starting point is 00:32:08 it looked like it was just rounded out from basically essentially something touched almost from the shoulder to the top part of the head. Okay. Okay. So not really like much of a neck then. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That was the first thing I thought.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Were you able to tell if you were maybe looking at a male creature or a female creature in any way? No, I could not. From where I, there was no discernible anything visible. that nature. Gotcha. And so you were getting really a side view of the creature as it walked across or? It was so at first it started making, it was traveling from left to right. And then at one point it turned almost like dead onto us for a little bit of it. Gotcha. When it did that turn, and I apologize, I'm going to be asking questions. And, if it's dark, that's no problem.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But the point where it turned and moved towards you, at that point, were there any things you noticed that you hadn't noticed when it was just walking from left to right? No, there was nothing in certain features that I noticed. It just had such a weird movement. It was very, like, stiff. It almost moved in a robotic manner, if that makes sense. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:37 It's such a weird, it's such a weird, very, very, So on the one hand, the creature is moving very smoothly, right? Correct. But then on the other hand, it has a robotic movement to it, you said, right? Yep. And I've seen that before with certain athletes and stuff that are, they can move so well, and their movements are so precise that it almost looks robotic. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Okay, I like that. remembering what you had looked at, did it give you more the sense, like maybe you were looking at a creature that was in some way related to a human or to an ape or something that just didn't really fit in either of those boxes? For me, it looked like a human. It resembled more human, but then on the other hand, it also seemed as it as it, if like when you see animals, I'm not sure if you're familiar with animals
Starting point is 00:34:41 and their movements and stuff. And it, so the whole thing was it was like somebody going to that lake, like as if we see deer or bears do it, they go to water sources. And they usually do it first thing in the morning. That's when a lot of animals are moving.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And that's, that's basically what it did, what it was. And that's what I thought at first, just if we were looking through our binoculars. and I was to see a dough or a butt going to get water. Wow. What other sounds were you hearing at that time? During the initial sighting, it was just the normal sounds.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I think there was some birds chirping, just different stuff in camp. Nobody was really up at that point. Where we camp at, you got your normal hikers, some families, but that year, from what I remember, there wasn't a whole lot of hunters. So at that time in the morning, I want to say also in the campsite that we were at, I don't recall anybody else beaten up at all in that area. At any point, were you able to see the full length of the arms? Yes, I was.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So in between when it, so when it was traveling through the thickets, and then at some point that brush got a little shorter, is my speculation or what I saw, you could see arm movement and they were swinging back and forth. Interesting. How long were these arms
Starting point is 00:36:19 hanging down, would you say? I would say, man, I'm going to have to go back into my memory bank really good on this part. Okay. And I would have to say it was probably comparable to a human as far as
Starting point is 00:36:38 they didn't look abnormal, normally long. But they also were hinged at what would be the elbow area. Interesting. So definitely not like you would say not past the knees, not down. No. No. Okay. But you're also, I'm going to estimate, let's say, you said the brush was six to seven feet tall and you said you could see the shoulders and the heads. How much would you, how tall would you estimate what you were looking at probably was? I would have to say that it was definitely, no, it was at the shortest, it was seven foot, but I'm guessing between the seven to eight foot range.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, gotcha. Were you able to see anything about the hands at all? No, not really other than just seeing dark, what I'm assuming, were the hand area going back and forth, like, during the walking movement. I'm sorry. at any time did you start having different i'm going to try to think of how i'm going to say this when you're watching the creature were there was there at any time a difference in how your body was reacting your mental state your how you felt internally no not really that i noticed And I think now that I have seen this, I realize that when you see something that doesn't make any sense that the human tries to rationalize what they saw.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So it was just, I was coming up with so many different excuses at the time of what it had to be. And even though none of it added up, it was like, oh, no, there's no way that it could be something upright, dark, covered in fur, walking towards this lake where you have campers at the lower spot and above both lakes there's a campsite above there and it was probably only 200 yards from the right of the upper campsite it just seemed weird that it was close enough to the campsites but not it was close enough to where if it was a person they would have walked in the openings to get to the lake they wouldn't have gone through dense brush thickets to go to the lake it that just it made no sense as to why because i've walked by that brush before and it's so thick in there and also there's thorns
Starting point is 00:39:17 it just nobody that has any clue about being in the mountains and walking through that terrain would go straight through the center of it that's that makes sense there's no logical reason for a human to be over there yeah exactly gotcha because if it wanted to go to the lake for whatever reason, it would go in the openings. And there's areas where there's knee-hide grass. And then there's areas where there's shorter grass. It would have taken an easier route, basically, to get to the lake. After you had this experience, did this affect your time back at home in any way? No, not so much, but I get teased from time to time because I'm so into the subject now.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And it sent me out a deep dive where I've read, I have a stack right now under my TV of probably 30 books. My podcast, I have a job where I'm driving site to do building inspections. In between, I'm constantly just watching YouTube videos, listening to podcasts related to the subject. And that happened after this encounter that you got really super. deep into it. What is the main reason you think that you got really into it after that?
Starting point is 00:40:44 My guess is I just wanted to find answers, really. When you see something that once you narrow down all the possibilities of what it wasn't, and you start to think of what it could have been, now I want answers basically about that, I feel lucky on one hand that I got to witness it. and but then again it's also changed my view of pretty much everything it wasn't a huge paradigm shift at the beginning it wasn't something it was like oh everything everything's completely different but the more that I narrowed it down and the more that I went through my checklist and analyzed it then it did start to change everything like it's definitely opened my eyes to a lot of different things
Starting point is 00:41:30 sure or not just ignoring and writing stuff off now whether anybody says they go into the top of dogman any of the cryptids now before i would have been like oh that's funny but now i'm just like these people are seeing something and they you know what it is i don't know but there is people that are seeing things and i take it a heck of a lot more serious now that's for sure oh absolutely it's once you have an encounter like this it's like all bets are off i think for everything else. I do want to ask a question I asked before, maybe a little bit more direct. After you had this encounter, at any time, were your dreams affected? Did you start to hear any strange voices or anything I thought? Nope. Okay. Nope, believe it or not, I didn't. The thing is,
Starting point is 00:42:24 the way I look at it is where we go hunting at and where I've been hiking at, I've been in outdoors, There's plenty of things that can arm you that are out there. And so in that aspect, I wasn't, like, terrified to go back in the woods or it never made me. It made me more vigilant, that's for sure. And I always was, when we were hunting, I'd take a couple seconds to look off on the hill next to me with my binoculars or scanning stuff and always keeping an eye on me. But from what I learned, it's you should always be vigilant in the mountains. We see people that go out there in areas where we've seen bear before and seen lots of signs of bear. I don't think they're vigilant enough really, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And we see single people going in there and they're hiking way back just by themselves. And to me, that's a reckless. Oh, yeah. Definitely. You mentioned that you had gone back to the actual brushy area afterwards. When you were over there, did you see any evidence of, you know, footprints or like a massive creature going through nothing at that okay I did not I did not I started I basically went to the edge of where that brush was and I wanted to see
Starting point is 00:43:37 how tall that was so it could give me a better idea to the height of it and once I realized that it was a lot taller than I thought it changed it gave me some answers that I needed basically makes sense and I'm sorry to piggyback on that part of the profession that I'm in, I'm constantly measuring stuff with tape measures and checking diameters of things and stuff. And I thought, maybe I could guess from the distance that I was how tall that was. But then when I actually got right next to it, my mind was somewhat blown, how tall that brush actually was. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Just to double check, during that encounter where you had the visual on it, were there any, was there any, was there any evidence that you had captured from that time? No, I did not. I do have, when we go hunting a lot of the times, I'll carry my cell phone on me, but where we're at, we have no service for it. We have to drive down the mountain a good hour and a half to even get service. So I carry it, I usually just leave it in the trailer or I'll put it in my backpack, but we mainly, I just mainly use that to check trail cameras if we had any set up or if I do harvest an animal, I definitely want to take pictures of that or have my dad snap a photo of me next to it.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But believe it or not, that was the last thing that went through my mind. When you were looking through your optics at this, if you were in a situation where you could have taken a shot, is it a thing where you would have or there's, that's not a, not an option at all based on what you saw? No, that wasn't an option at all. Being around hunting, growing up around hunting, now being immersing it myself, you don't take a shot at something new,
Starting point is 00:45:33 you're not 100% sure of what it is. And we were there hunting deer, and that was definitely not a deer, so that wasn't even a thought that had gone through my head at all. It makes sense. It sounds like you started doing a lot of research, since you know where that exact area
Starting point is 00:45:53 is did you look to see if there had been any other sightings or encounters in that same area? I did not. I was told by my dad, and this is a second-hand story, and he just had told it to me probably about five years ago. But there was another gentleman that comes from the same city where I live in, and he used to hunt with my dad and a group of the other guys. That's how my dad got started with some older hunters had taken him up to that area, showed him kind of the ropes of all the areas and where deer's are usually at. And he was up on the side of this mountain. And same thing, we try to go in and get there as close to daylight as possible
Starting point is 00:46:41 and try to get in our spot where we want to be as close to daylight before anything moves. And he had said that he saw something run across, the side of this hill, which was really steep because I've been on that hill a bunch of times myself and said that it was absolutely flying on the side of this hill and moving at a speed that it was just not humanly capable. And in that area, there's a lot of volcanic rock and there's a lot of shale. And he said that it was just moving through there like it was nothing, like it was on flat ground, essentially. That's really interesting. Yeah. Definitely adds another side to it for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:25 So before we had taken a small detour back to talk about your initial siting, we were talking about the tent camping. We talked about that for a little bit. Are there any other interesting things that you've noticed over the years as well besides that? Yeah. So we also hunted another area that's a little closer to the city that I live in. So for context, the area where my first signing occurred at is about three and a half hours away from the city that I live in. But we also go to this other area that's on the backside. Essentially, we come in from the backside of the ski resort and we drop down on top of the ridge.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And if you look far down below about 1,000 yards, you can see the lodge, parking lot, all that area. But if you stay on that ridge line, you have a bunch of slopes going down underneath you that all converge down at the base. of the ski resort, and we always stay on that ridge line. And there's a couple game trails that are about 40 to 50 yards below the top of that ridge that we see dears first thing in the morning right before dark as well. They'll be cutting across there. So me and my dad were posted up there in the afternoon. Usually we take off from camp at about, depending on how the weather is that season,
Starting point is 00:48:44 if it's abnormally warm, we'll wait a little bit later to take off from camp to go up the trail and go on the backside of the ski resort and drop down on it. And we were just sitting on one of the runs. So imagine the top of the run where the ski lift lets you out at and you strap your gearing. Sometimes there's a little bench right there or different trail markers up at that area. We're looking down the run and we've seen deer crossing about halfway down this area, this specific ski run that we look at. and we started hearing crashing of something that sounded like it.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And we made a joke even at first is, what is there a dinosaur going through this thicket? So between ski runs, you have the opening clearings, and generally you have tree areas where people will do tree riding or they haven't carved it out down the center yet. And we just noticed there was just a lot of crashing, and there was trees in that area that were probably 30 feet tall, that were actually swaying back and forth, which, I mean, a bears go through areas when they
Starting point is 00:49:57 scratch against trees or they push against stuff, but whatever this was that was in the trees between the runs was absolutely, sounded absolutely massive. That must have been the weirdest thing ever, to be honest, to see a, a three-foot tree just start swaying and the crashing going on. I don't know. I know. And the problem is being a hunter and stuff, I'm not sure if you've been around hunters much or around that culture, but you always want to think that you're the top dog in the mountains.
Starting point is 00:50:37 You want to think you're the alpha that's out there. And so it's, you try not to be like, oh, man, I'm spooked or showing too much fear. But that was definitely weird. I was just hoping that whatever was inside that. area did not pop out or come towards us because whatever it was was sounded absolutely massive that's wild yeah a funny side note jeremiah i okay so i know you're familiar with the missing four and one series yep absolutely the data polities all that he had a part that had the sierra sounds in it on I'm not sure which volume it is.
Starting point is 00:51:25 We'll come to find out two of the guys that recorded the Sierra Sounds were lived in the same city that I did in California. Oh, that's cool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah, and this is the even crazier part about it. Is one of the guys, which he hasn't gone on to Ron Moore, I don't know if else will say that, he has gone on different shows. One of the guys has gone on different shows and been on documentaries. Another one of the hunters that was with him ended up being the, my parents bought the house,
Starting point is 00:52:06 brought the land from him that they built their house on. Really? Yeah. And the weirdest thing is, I've seen him around, I still see him to this day, driving around with his wife. And they never broadcasted it or anything. We had no clue or watching this documentary. and we're like, wait, we know these two guys right here. And one of them, his house I can literally almost see from my parents' house, the back of his property, at least I could see. So you're definitely not talking about Ron Moorhead. And that's public knowledge, like Ron Moore.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Everyone knows about Ron Moorhead. But you're talking about another hunter. Yeah, and my dad actually did know Ron, too. But one of the other hunters that was with him, and there's pictures of him on that documentary, and they don't name him specifically, but we definitely know who he is, obviously.
Starting point is 00:52:56 He's been around our city forever, but he's to this day. Yeah, to this day I ride bikes and stuff, and I see him out mowing his yard and stuff, and I really want to go up to him and talk to him, but he's an old school cowboy type of guy, and I just don't know how he's going to respond to it, really. So I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:53:14 If you ever feel so inclined, and you do see him, and you want to go on a quest for this podcast. If you feel so inclined, you could, if you do strike up a conversation with them and let him know,
Starting point is 00:53:29 hey, if you ever does want to talk about what happened during that time on a podcast, I would love to interview this gentleman. It's, I don't think he's ever been, I don't think he's ever been interviewed.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I can't even think of what the guy's name is, but. He hasn't. He has not, not that I know. I've done a lot of research. Okay. And it's just so wild to me
Starting point is 00:53:50 that one of the guys it was involved with probably the premier recording. Never went on the record really or anything. That's wild. That's a huge synchronicity that you actually know who the dude is and there's that connection with the purchasing a property. Man, if it could happen, that would be wild if he would ever go on record and chat about it. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I definitely, because I ride bikes with one of my friends around here a lot on the weekends and he's always out every Saturday following his yard and I always want to stop but usually we're in the middle of a bike ride and it's like you just don't know how to approach these type of things. This isn't like a conversation where I can just start out with that. You've got to create a little bit of rapport.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's true. It is a, that's an interesting conversation to just really launch into. Yeah, and he's closer with my dad as in they've known each other for years. But I've always, how I've been so interested in the topic, I've always been like, man, if I could just talk to him and just hear his first-hand experience of that, it would be absolutely amazing. Jordan, this is what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You got to get your dad involved. Your dad is the key to this because it sounds like they've been buddy for years. And your dad's in the big foot too, right? Or he's been involved with us. And that's the funny thing is when all this had gone down years ago and we kept it to us. Every so often we talk about it. And I noticed little by little, he started getting a lot more involved in the last couple of years. As far as I catch it, he would be watching stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Before he moved, when they moved out of state, he would be watching stuff on YouTube. I'd go over their house. And he was watching a documentary or missing four and long and stuff. And I noticed it definitely, he's definitely got a lot more open-minded than I thought he would ever be about the topic. Absolutely. Wow, that was quite the rabbit trail we just went on. but I'm glad we went on it. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I know. I know. I wrote a little note about that, and it's just a weird little tidbit. Because a lot of older hunters around this area that I've come in contact with my dad and stuff, they would always tell it like almost like an urban legend. There's some guys from this area that have gone hunting up by,
Starting point is 00:56:10 and they had a bunch of mysterious things happened to them. And they never said anything about it. recording audio, which was really weird too. And it was almost like a urban legend you tell everybody. And I never knew who the guys were until I saw that documentary. And neither did my dad. Holy Macon. Which is really odd.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So you're saying like the recording of the Sierra sounds were some like local legend you would hear and then you realized it's a huge part of Bigfoot history. Holy macro. Yep. Yep. Exactly. And we would say my dad would tell me, yeah, there's some guys that had gone up to the high country and they had this stupid little.
Starting point is 00:56:47 hole that they've always been hunting out of on horseback. And I assumed that it was an actual cabin, not like a lean-toe structure that was just built out there. I thought it was a cabin. And we had heard stuff that something was pounding on the side of their cabin and something spook their horses and all these different things. And then come to find it and find out the real story. It was just, it was amazing, honestly. I couldn't believe that, you know, like I said, I almost want to get an autograph from this guy. And have it. it somewhere in my house. Oh, that would be, that would be so cool.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's somewhere in the Sierra, I believe, is how they play it. But I think it's not many people know the exact location of where it actually happened. And I think only those gentlemen do, you know, and I think one of them Ron took his wife there. But other than that, that's pretty much there at the time when it was, when they were allowing them to be up there, was an area only a couple of those guys knew. It's just, it's wild to think that, like, the guys from that. generation that would have been like the guys like Ron that went out during that time in the 70s those guys are almost gone that's why I take this interviewing people extremely serious especially when
Starting point is 00:58:00 it's the older generation where they start talking about how they were going out in the late 70s those guys yeah it's almost even the guys in the 90s they're getting old too man that we're researching so I know and it's just those guys I didn't realize that they literally paved the way of the stuff nowadays. And, of course, the average person that isn't into the topic isn't really going to know this. But those guys are essentially, to me, some of the founding fathers of a lot of this research. I would agree. If you had the chance to see what you saw that one day again, would you want to see that again?
Starting point is 00:58:41 And partially, part of me wants to. But the other part of me knows exactly what I saw. saw that day. So it's not like I need confirmation of any sorts. It would be nice. But then again, after learning about different sightings and encounters, I don't necessarily want to be close to something like that. Or I don't want to have some of these encounters where things are getting thrown at me. Or I hear something going around our trailer at night or around our 10 at night. I don't want anything like that. Now, from a hill with maybe a spotting scope or my binoculars,
Starting point is 00:59:21 a good four or five hundred yards away at least would be ideal, but that's about as close as I really want to get to anything like this. It's extremely interesting. And then I have something that this whole event didn't plague me for years, but it always has been in my mind. And I needed to get some type of clarity. And I went to, I go to church and I'm the believer. and I went to a pastor that I'm very comfortable sharing stuff with, and I trust his guidance.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And he had an interesting take on it that did open my eyes to stuff. Or it definitely sparked a different way of thinking about the whole thing. And he essentially said that there's a spiritual realm that's around us. And every so often that veil is thin enough to where, people see stuff, you know, that these are occurrences that happen all the time, but for whatever reason, certain people are able to view these things happening. And the reason that that kind of resonated with me was because as the sun continued to rise that morning, I didn't, it should have been more visible and instead it did the exact opposite or it just vanished
Starting point is 01:00:47 as if it was almost supernatural in a sense. So does that mean then that as the sun rose, you actually saw the creature start to disappear in front of your eyes? No, not in that aspect. It was just every so often, I went and grabbed my bow real quick and was loading up the vehicle, but in the meantime, loading up the back of my dad's Jeep, but in the meantime, I was keeping an eye on that.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Same area, same area. And I stepped away for a second to get my bow set up and make sure my arrows were all secured in the quiver and then put it on my backpack and set it in the back of the Jeep because we were actually going to the hunt off this trailhead that's about a quarter of a mile away from camp. And when I turned back around, it was just completely gone as if nothing was there at all. And nothing, it was the oddest thing. That is very odd. Yeah, it's just, but you know, that's happening.
Starting point is 01:01:51 before with a really big buck or sometimes you see wildlife and it's just in and out quick it's almost if you saw a ghost but except this thing was tall walking towards a lake so personally yourself have you come have you decided what you feel a big foot is yourself then that's a pretty tough question. For me, all its movements and what it was doing, 100% reminding me of an animal going to a lake to get water first thing in the morning. But then the part that has me stumped is the part of how it just seemed like it seemed to just vanish into thin air at the end of it all. I know there's two different, there's two different camps, so to speak, and one is that it's a physical creature, and then the other one is the whole wound.
Starting point is 01:03:00 and supernatural aspect, but it had aspects of both for me and my encounter. And how I'm starting to feel personally, the more I get into this, is that I don't think it's out of the question to have a physical creature that maybe can do weird stuff that we just don't understand in science yet. That could be considered paranormal? Yeah. And the more that I research on. the same camp, there's just things we don't understand. And I'm okay with that. And maybe as time
Starting point is 01:03:38 goes on, people will. There will be more science or it'll be accepted that animals can do this or that. Absolutely. We know that some animals can influence their prey using infrasound to make them scared or not be able to run. And honestly, I think that this creature can also do that. And it's one of the scariest things to think that a creature that large can do that. But we're just, we're learning more about it and it feels every answer we get, there's two more questions, but that's part of the research of it. Yeah, I definitely agree on that. But Jordan, it's been a real pleasure talking to you tonight. And I'm so glad you're able to share your account with a listener.
Starting point is 01:04:32 base and be able to feel comfortable enough to be able to do that. Did you have any more closing thoughts before we wrapped up our time here tonight? Yeah, some things is it's great that guys like you, a couple other guys that I follow and listen to podcasts, have a platform like this where you're able to discuss things and not feel like you're being judged about them is definitely something that I appreciate. and in a lot of the fields and the fields actually that I currently work with. I've tried to have discussions with certain people, and a lot of times it's just brushed off
Starting point is 01:05:12 or people make a smart comment regarding it. When you can tell that they don't really think it's serious or to them there's no way that any of this could be real, but it's just really important to have a place to actually discuss stuff like this. And it definitely helps when you have a good support group around you, as in my girlfriend is very encouraging about it all. And she doesn't write it off as just being some tall tale or whopper story on same thing with my parents. And, you know, my dad has also been very open-minded.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And he actually helped me recall or mention some different things that happen along the years. or a couple of the different things that happened and that was just huge. It's extremely important to have a support base like that. So I'm so happy to hear that you actually do have that. Not everyone is lucky enough to have that support base, especially from people that they're related to and that love them as well. Yeah, I still don't. I still keep it pretty close to the chest.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And this isn't something that I just will discuss with anybody. But at the same time, it is good to have the closest people in your life that are at least willing to hear and not just write you off as being crazy or not knowing what you saw right out the gate. Absolutely. Again, Jordan, thank you for coming on this show. If you happen to have anything else interesting happen in future years, feel free to reach. back out to me and it's been a pleasure chatting with you tonight. Yeah, absolutely, and I definitely will.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National Park Ranger or forestry worker who's been told
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