Bigfoot Society - Revenge of the Tennessee Donkey Squatch (Archives)

Episode Date: May 12, 2024

Recorded 4/3/23In this episode, we have Elijah Henderson, a researcher from the Cryptid Studies Institute based in Clarksville, Tennessee. He is strategically located in the midst of several creature-themed spots such as Werewolf Springs, the Bell Witch site, the Hopkinsville Goblin area, and Land Between the Lakes.Elijah shares with us some intriguing Bigfoot vocalizations recorded at a property in Indian Mound, Tennessee. Could it be possible that Bigfoot is mimicking donkey sounds in the area? The sounds are some of the most fascinating and unexplainable ones he has heard so far.We also hear about a spine-chilling Bigfoot encounter that took place in the 1960s at a family property in Dayton, Tennessee. The creature followed the family around the property and even chased them back to their house. The encounter had a horrific impact on their hogs.In addition, we discuss the infamous White Bluff Screamer, an entity that almost wiped out an entire family. Is it a Bigfoot or something paranormal? The jury is still out.Last but not least, Elijah talks about the Bigfoot of Pocket Wilderness in Dayton, TN. This is an episode you don't want to miss! Tune in now to hear about these exciting Bigfoot encounters and more on the Bigfoot Society podcast.Here the extra Dogman themed portion of the episode for the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bigfoot-society-80936779Resources: https://www.youtube.com/@CryptidStudiesInstitute

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on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles Welcome to the Bigfoot Society You've got a special episode From the Archives for you today interview I did with Elijah Henderson from the Cryptid Studies Institute about some wild things he's experienced down in Tennessee

You are not going to want to miss this one You've seen a Bigfoot and like to show share about it on the show, please contact me directly at bigfoot society at gmail.com. And if you can't get enough of Bigfoot Society and wish you could hear more episodes, while there's an extra members-only episode out every week on Wednesday to get access to that. Just join the Patreon at patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. Now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society.

You've got a special treat for you tonight or whenever you're listening to this. Got Mr. Elijah Henderson with me from the Crypted Studies, Institute from beautiful Clarksville, Tennessee. How's it going, Elijah? It's going good, brother. I'm not sure how beautiful Clarksville is because it's not a lot of nature here anymore. It's mostly city and I hate it. But the cool thing is it sounds like you're getting out in the woods, though.

When I can. When I can, if everybody doesn't mind, excuse my look tonight. As you can see, I sort of have sunglasses, shapes sunburned into me. I'm doing construction now and they've had me outside a whole lot recently. Oh, I got you. Tell me all about what is the Crypted Studies Institute? Well, the Crypted Studies Institute is the brainchild of my dad, Johnny Henderson. He and another researcher, you know, talked about going into a cryptid group and, you know, then it was born, so to speak.

It's existed for quite a long time since maybe about 2015 or so. but our actual YouTube channel where we do all of our documentaries and whatnot, it's only been around for two, three years or so. But in that time, it's been a really great experience, done a lot of really great things, talk to a lot of great people and whatnot. And yeah, I reckon we're trucking along. Our main spot of research is land between the lakes in Tennessee and Kentucky.

And we find ourselves there pretty often. In fact, I think sometime in May, we got a trip with some friends plan to go out there too. Oh, that's awesome. How far away from land between the lakes are you guys? So Clarksville, Tennessee, where I'm at, where I'm situated, it's in a really good spot. It's close to a lot of really popular, famous creature sites or spots of renown. From where I'm at, I'm close to about 50 minutes to an hour from land between the lakes, about an hour from Montgomery Bell State Park

where the Werewolf Springs is. I'm like 20 minutes or so from the Bell Witch haunting site. Hopkinsville or the Hopkinsville Goblins, you know, stuff happened. If you're into ghosts, you know, close to LBL's Fort Donaldson, I believe it's a supposedly haunted battlefield. And, yeah, White Bluff where the White Bluff screaming stuff happened. A lot of stuff happened close to here. I'm all like within an hour of it.

So listeners, no. So the main episode, we're going to be focusing on Bigfoot. Because the cool thing about Elijah and do you call you, do you call yourself CSI or Cryptist Studies Institute? Usually go by Cryptist Studies Institute, but you know, what everybody wants to call us, I reckon. So Elijah, he's telling me beforehand, they started out with Bigfoot and then they went into Dogman. So the main episode is we're going to be talking about Bigfoot stuff. But Elijah is going to stick around for a Patreon after Patreon episode where he's going to talk specifically about Dogman stuff because I was like, man, I've got you on here. I'm trying to focus on Bigfoot, but I would be remiss if I didn't spend some time afterwards talking to you about what, you know, from what I've got you on.

heard you guys are considered some of the some of the experts on the subject but um the other cool thing eliza is you were kind enough to to share a few sounds my way let's let's start off by by playing a few of those and getting your commentary on some of them are very interesting we're to play the bigfoot ones and i will save the dogman ones for the uh the after show for the patron but um any specific bigfoot one you want to start out with or just uh i'll i'll i'll i'll pick for you. Man, dealer's choice. You've got, well, let me, let me play it here first, and then we will, uh, we'll do some commentary. So I'm going to play it one more time a little bit louder.

I said, that's very interesting. And I think I want to play this, the other one right after it, because it's kind of, they're similar. Okay. So what's the story behind those two, Elijah? So let me give you a little bit of background on the region that comes from. That comes from Indian Mound, Tennessee. And Indian Mound is actually about 27 minutes from land between the lakes, which is very ironic. But I have some people that lives on, you know, good piece of property up there. And they're basically like grandparents for me. I've known them my whole life.

So, you know, they're like grandparents. But they've lived on this property for like 16, 17 years. And most of the time they've been there, there's been something on their property. and man it's been a great research spot down there because it's great in the way a lot of the time you don't have to go out, you know, and hike around in the woods and try to stir something up. If you just sit outside with a fire,

generally something will come up and start making noise at you or you'll just be shooting the breeze outside and you'll hear something off in the distance. Oh, there's the Bigfoot, you know. those those that whoop that first whoop we were actually sitting in their yard around a campfire you know shooting the breeze with the family and it's like something got curious and came close you know fairly close by and heard activity going on and it was kind of curiously whooping i guess to get our attention now that secondary whoop the people who own the property they left a a audio recorder out all night and they caught that one. That's how he's gotten a lot of noises. I've actually got like folders of audio clips from him,

which may or may not have anything on it. A lot of them I'll probably just have to go through and see if there's something there. But he's gotten a lot of weird noises just by leaving like a little Tupperware bowl with a voice recorder sitting in overnight. And that second one, I think it might have been called like S2, whoop,

something like that. It's a lot higher pitch. So I kind of suspect maybe that was a juvenile because it had like a much higher tone to it. Oh, absolutely. It's like when I heard him, I was like, are these like, it sounds like almost like Gibbons from the zoo. This is incredible.

Like, and these are just out in Tennessee at some dude's properties. Pretty much. It's why I'm going to play the second one one more time since we were just talking about it. It's wild, dude. Oh, man. And it's probably the most unique Bigfoot spot I've ever been to. And the reason I say that is, before I get into that, let me give everybody kind of a lay of the land. Indian mound is a pretty rugged spot.

You know, it's starting to get some construction in the area. It's starting to, you know, see some traffic, so to speak. But it's still got quite a bit of nature to it. there's a, I believe it's a nature reserve. It's called Cross Creeks pretty close by to this property. And there's quite a bit of nature there. We found, you know, evidence of like bear up in the region. You know, there's wild boar up there.

But this particular spot where these people are living at, it's off the road. You drive up a gravel road up a hill, and they live kind of up on top of a hill, and they're surrounded by lots, lots of woods. There's a couple of houses like around them, you know, a couple of different properties, but basically it's all out in the woods and some fields and whatnot. Now, one of, the thing that makes it the most unique Bigfoot spot I've ever been to is that in the time

we've been there, it imitates a donkey. And there's not a donkey up there. But when I was a little boy, there used to be a donkey like way down the road. And where they live from where the donkey was, you would never be able to hear that. You know, it's just too far of a distance. But up on top of that hill where their property is, you'll hear donkeys braying out in the woods. And there's nothing like that in those woods.

And they'll, you know, bray in different points on the property. I have an audio clip somewhere in there. like two or three donkeys bring at the same time. And, uh, yeah, man, uh, that it makes it really wild because in this day and age, there is no more donkey anywhere around. And my name, he's even asked his neighbors before, hey, are you ever here like a donkey out here?

And his neighbor told him, there's no donkey out there ain't been donkey out here long time or there's never been a donkey out here. So there's something around there that's imitating a donkey. That's wild. I'm going to play the sound in a few in a minute. But it's just so the weird thing is, I've interviewed people about Bigfoot for a few years. And what I've got so far is Bigfoot try to make sounds that don't make sense.

There are people that will hear what they think sounds like a car door in the middle of the woods. far from away from any cars. It doesn't make sense. And who's to say that they couldn't do a donkey impression? And let's listen to it right now. This is really fascinating. Here we go. Now, everybody can hear that there's like two or three donkey sounds there.

And historically, from when I was a boy, I only ever seen one donkey down the road. That's like three, four don't know what to. I don't know what to think of that, man. And it sounds like no tracks have been found, no donkey tracks, nothing like that. Nothing like that, man. Wow. This is all like rugged woods. Like on one side where you could hear some of these sounds, it's a thick wooded hill and it goes straight down a hill like into a deep ravine.

And then it comes back up on the other side. It's all just like one deep ravine. I'll be working out there since he's like my grandpa on the day. and I'll just hear like a donkey brain in the woods. I'm like, ah, there's that, there's that big foot. Somewhere, I've got a recording and I haven't been able to find it. I would love to have it back. I don't know if it got deleted or what.

We were sitting around the fire there one night because me and my dad, we'd made a geodesic dome and put it out on the property and used it like a big giant tent, you know, through a welder's tarp over the top of it. We were sitting around a fire around that campsite, which was smack dab right. in the woods. That donkey started braying pretty close to the camp, you know, real deep sounding. And it sounded like he got strangled on something. Like it got strangled on its own spit.

And it started like trying to bray and there was like coughing at the same time. It was a good audio clip. I haven't been able to find it. It drives me mad sometimes. I'll be looking through everything. Can't find it. That would drive me nuts because it's like, yeah, because that's like something's trying to imitate it.

got like a frog in its throat or something. It was some impressive audio and, man, you hear all sorts of stuff out there. We've heard like things that sound like cows up there. As far as I know, there's no cows. Tropical bird sounds, you know, stuff that just sounds like out of the ordinary. At least in the entirety, I've been there. I've never seen a cow close to that, close to that property that I can recall. but sometimes you'll hear it like some of those audio clips in there

it's coming like from out of the woods, you know, where nothing like that would be. You said this is Indian Mound. Yes, sir. It's about 27 minutes from the opening of the south end of Land Between the Lakes. Is it named because there is an Indian mound in that area, I would imagine? That's why it's named that. Oh, man. And I'm friends with a safety man who he used to have, you know,

things happened to him down there, some unusual things when he was a younger man. And he has, he knows where the Indian mountains are. So they're still down there. I don't know where they are. But he said he was, you know, doing some hunting pretty close to one one night. And he gave us like a weird supernatural encounter. Some of those audio clips are as recent. It is like probably around September, October 22.

What do you, do you have a feeling? as to like what do you think bigfoot is what are you dealing with when you're you're out there well you know i i think he kind of got a lot of things going on to be honest you got your you got your group of people that think it's you know something supernatural or something interdimensional because you got all these folk that report it just vanished right before my eyes or i watched it step into a portal you got your your more unusual stories like that and then you got something that comes from a more grounded point of view. Like, I was watching it.

It was knelt down and eating out of a blueberry bush, you know, just something like that. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody. So go with the full synthetic motor oil you can trust. Penn's Oil Ultra Platinum offers engine protection for the lifetime of your vehicle. So do it right with Penn's Oil Ultra Platinum. Stock up now at Walmart.

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and came back as undocumented primate. So I think there is something physical running around in some capacity. But I think a lot of the things people see, there is something supernatural, you know, impersonating something like that or appearing as it, you know.

There's a lot of confusion that could be spread. You know, if something out there demonic is posing as one of these things, you can really stir the pot. I know it. You do have to be aware of what you're investigating, et cetera, as some listeners may be aware. So you sent it off to a lab and unknown primate, really? Well, it wasn't me that sent it off. What happened was when I was a, when I was a boy, we used to go to these groups. Are you familiar with Mary Green?

Yes, yes. But for listeners who aren't, would you mind describe that quick summary of? Yeah, absolutely. Cool. Mary Green was a famous Bigfoot researcher, and she did a lot of work with the Chattahoochee Bigfoot research organization. and when I was a little boy, you know, we joined that group and they would have annual gatherings in Standing Stone State Park. That's where they did a lot of research.

We've done a lot of research. It used to be a really good spot and it's declined pretty badly. But Mary Green, you know, she wrote the book 50 years with Bigfoot, which they got an audio book of it on YouTube, but it's been impossible to get a physical copy anymore. But she's a very well-known woman. And she would have sort of more, in her research, it seemed to take more of a personal relationship with the Bigfoot because, you know, she would have specific Bigfoot she worked with in Standing Stone that she would call by name. She'd go under this spot called Grumpy's Place or Grumpy spot. And there's a Sasquatch there named Grumpy that, you know, they'd sometimes have experiences with. I forget the names of the other one.

That was when I was a little boy. but yeah, for one of those annual conferences that they had up there, they had a sort of raffle that they were doing. They had like a poster board sitting on a table, and you know they'd have different prizes. And one of the prizes was some of those hair samples, and they had, you know, pictures of the results of the hair that came back from the lab. And just as a nice gesture, Mary gave me and my sister, like three bags,

like with a couple of strands of that hair in it. And, yeah, that's how we got a hold of that. Nice. There you go. There you go. I love it. Chattahoochee, is that in Georgia or Tennessee? It was Georgia.

Well, we'd meet up in Tennessee. It was over in Overton County at Standing Stone State Park. And it used to be such a good spot, man. But I'm not going to name names, you know, publicly. but from what I heard, a very well-known TV Bigfoot researcher went over there and was firing guns

and you can't hardly get anything to show up there anymore. I've heard like sort of outside of the park that people have stuff happened, but actually in the park of the old locations. So has Bigfoot been in your family DNA for quite a while, Elijah? Like our family history?

and whatnot. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, that was a really weird way to say that. My apologies, I was like, oh, it's no problem, man. Got weird. Yeah, family history, let's say that. Yeah, so there has been a lot of Bigfoot stories in my family. So my dad, my grandma, all come from East Tennessee over at Dayton, Tennessee.

And for those that aren't familiar with that area, it's a small town. Even today, it's small. It's starting to get bigger. It's where the famous Scopes Monkey Trial took place, you know, which was basically the starting point of evolution being taught in the schools. It was the creation versus evolution court debate, so to speak. And that's the same town where that took place. But, you know, there's a, been quite a bit of activity happen up there. My family used to own some property up there.

they would, you know, in the 60s. They'd been there for a while, but this took place sometime in the 60s. Where they lived, it was down a old gravel road, and there's trees on both side, and they'd kind of curl over like this, and, you know, make the road really dark at night. It would, you know, block out a lot of the light, and they'd be coming down that road at night, you know, after getting their business done in the day, whatever it was, and they would hear something following them up on the hillside. You know, they'd see little stone's,

coming down the hill, you know, kind of rolling down the hill as it was walking. They would walk. It would walk and follow them. If they'd start running, they would run. Or if they'd just stop, it would stop, you know, classic Bigfoot. And they would run back to the house and this thing would be coming after him. And they'd close the door. And they didn't have like a deadbolt or anything like that on their door.

So they'd push the stove up against the door to try to keep this thing out. And they'd see the doorknob, you know, the door kind of shaking back and forth like that. And it didn't seem to know how to operate the actual door knob mechanism. But I guess it watched them. And, you know, it was grabbing the door and shaking it. Things continued down there. And the family one night was sitting around, you know, listening to Loretta Linn records.

Nice. And they heard some sort of noise coming from the window that looked over. And they seen something looking in at them. I think I was told that it was kind of growling. or kind of raspy breathing something or other. But it had glowing red eyes, his watching them, and it kind of had a monkeyish appearance, but it had a wide nose like an old man.

It was described to me. And, you know, this was the deep south, you know, over in Appalachia. So what did they decide to do? They took the rifle outside, and they were going to try to shoot this thing. But, you know, get outside. It's gone. Can't find anything.

Well, thanks progress a little more. and on my Aunt Myrtle's farm, they were having hogs come up missing, you know. And at that time, you know, hogs were a staple. They were food. You know, you could trade them if you wanted to. They were just really a staple resource for the people up there. And to have them come up missing was a big problem. So one of my uncles, one of them, he's not living anymore, but he was one of the meanest men to ever buy the daylight.

You know, nothing really scared him. he did a stay cat with some other folk and they were watching to see who was coming up here taking the hogs well they described that something that looked like a gorilla loped out of the woods stepped over the fence into the hog fence picked one up by its front legs by its back legs slung it over its shoulders like that

traips back into the woods and he said he wouldn't have shot it for anything it would just made it mad and would come and killed us but I mean hogs are massive my sister's got a mini pig

he's not many anymore but I can't even wrangle him you know so something just coming in there and grabbing actual hogs grabbing them by the legs throwing it's over its shoulders

and just taking off with it that's some force there I cannot imagine seeing that with my own eyes man that must have been wild be so cool man and I guess the last thing from up of that property that I know of is one of my it was either a cousin or an uncle I'm sorry I can't remember which but he was riding his horse out in the field around that property and as it was described

there's one of those bigfoot sleeping in the field and his horse jumped over it and it scared the big foot it jumped up and run it scared the horse it started doing his thing and obviously it scared my family member. Some versions of the story, it bucked him off, and some versions of the story, he was able to hold on to it. But either way, that horse jumped over a Sasquatch, and it terrified both of them.

Bigfoot got up and run. And sometime after all this stuff had happened, the neighboring county started having newspaper reports of a wild man around there, and they didn't really have anything go on there anymore that I know of. So I guess it moved on. on whatever it was. That is good.

Man, is that property still in your family then? No, there's a man. Oh, man. Oh, what was it? It's like the housing projects. They're built there now. It's on a hillside and it's kind of overlooking, you know, some of the town. But at that time, it was a lot more wooded and whatnot. I've got a picture of like the old place.

I can privately send it to you later if you want to see sort of where it was at. Because it's only like a shot of like one of. of the houses. You can't really see the woods, but you can see the house that was there is off in the distance. See, this is why people don't get like, how, how can these Sasquatch be seen, like, so close to houses? Well, it's because the areas where we're building houses used to be extremely wooded. And we just cut all the trees down and put up some parking lots and stuff. And, you know, it's like, that's how it happens. It's crazy. In your area, yeah, I love here and about like the regional bigfoot stories like the names you don't hear the names that you're not

going to see in the books are there you know creatures that are well known in your area that have like the crazy nicknames like there's an alabama white thing or any any uh bigfoot type creatures down in your area well close to me uh not in clarksville because clarksville's pretty awful i'm i'm not going to lie, it's pretty awful. I've heard a Bigfoot story or two from up here in Clarksville, but it's all neighboring things. We got about 40, 50 minutes from here with a White Bluff Screamer, and that place is unique because you've got almost like two variations of the way it's told. Some variations are that it's like a supernatural spirit type thing, and then some variations

are more of like a told like it was a bigfoot. Excuse me if I forget some of the details, but it's the most famous story that I know of attributed to it was something to the effect of every night. This is probably like 17-1800, something like that. But this fella, you know, he's in his home

and late in the night he'd hear just some sort of blood-curdling scream off in the woods. And, you know, this would repeat, I guess, for a night or two or however long, but he eventually was hearing it again one night, and he decided he was going to go check it out, whatever this was. So, you know, he got his gear, whatever that was.

I guess it would have been a lantern and a gun, went off in the woods, storming off after this thing, and he would hear these blood-curdling screams, and he'd approach him, but he could never get closer to him. They was always kind of moving further away. And then when he got so far off in the woods, he heard all these horrible screams coming from his house

and he turned around, ran back to his house, got home, and his wife and kids had been just massacred by something. And I remember hearing something like he looked at his window and he could see like a white big foot of shape standing there. And there's, I want to say they had left like footprints in the grass that almost looked like they'd been burned into the grass.

Now, like I said, sometimes it'll be told and more of like it was a spirit. Sometimes it'll be told more like it was a Sasquatch. Now, I do got a buddy up there who he got some recordings. As I want to say he said it was as a train was going by, but it sounds like Godzilla roaring in the distance. If anybody wants to hear that, I've got a white bluff screamer video on my channel

and that audio's in it, not trying to self-promote or anything, but if anybody wants to hear the audio, it's there. Oh, everyone should go over. So the thing is, I'm sure half the people have been there and subscribed and the other half need to go there, watch the video, and subscribe and hit the bell. Because Crypt Studies Institute YouTube channel is legit. It's good. I should appreciate that, man. You're good stuff.

So, yeah, it's going to be in the show notes, don't you worry. But at the end of the day, you're saying that this, the story is that this white sats, Watch took out a family or almost a whole family. That's wild, man. Yeah. Whether it was a Bigfoot, some sort of evil spirit, something, that's one of the stories attributed to it. And now, I mean, just right close to that area.

I mean, it's basically same area. White Bluff is basically smack dab up against Montgomery Bell State Park. And there's Bigfoot activity up there. My dad seemed in another researcher named Nathan Davis. seen three of them up there in 2009. And even Mary Green, who we talked about earlier, said that the Bigfoot up there were known to be kind of of a violent variety. And on the backside of the park there, you got Werewell Springs where historically there's been more what seemed to be dog man sightings up there, violent dog man sightings. So all this crazy stuff is going on in the same area as the Bellwitch Cave?

well, from Clarksville, it's about 20 or so minutes. So it's probably like an hour or so from Montgomery Bell State Park. But it's all roughly in the same area. I mean, Bellwitch stuff happened in Robertson County. And in that same county, you know, there's been Bigfoot reports. There's a, you got the Critter of Car Creek up there. It's a weird area, man. Dude, I mean, that's close to.

enough for me. Like I, if I'm, if I'm like an hour away from the Bellwitch cave, that's, that's close enough for me. That stuff, that's wild, man. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody. So go with the full synthetic motor oil you can trust. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum offers engine protection for the lifetime of your vehicle. So do it right with Penn's Oil Ultra Platinum. Stock up now at Walmart. Penzoil. Long, May, we drive. Limited lubrication warranty for lifetime engine protection. Other conditions

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hyena. And you can find newspaper reports about it. The critter of Carr Creek, as they called it. and every now and then people still see some sort of hya-ish-looking canine up there. I got a friend who we went to a Bigfoot conference in Lambtwin the Lakes with him, and he was saying he's seen something like that down in a creek. And what's kind of ironic, I work construction, so, you know, I'm around a lot of people. I shoot in the breeze with this guy, you know, I'm an expediter, and he's in the trailer next to me. he's an electrician's expediter, and we're out there talking one day.

He said he was from Robertson County, Springfield area. I was like, man, they still see them a hyena-looking things up there. And he shook his head, yeah, people still see him up there. Whoa. So maybe that's some of the dogmen that are up there, you know, because sometimes they'll go from on all fours to upright. Maybe it's like just some hyena that was in a circus show and got released up here. I don't know, man.

But some of those, you'll see the name America's hyena thrown around on the internet for some things being seen. And listeners may have just got a little bit of a hint as to how to ask someone about if they've seen a creature the good way, which is, hey, You ever seen the, you know, just be nice about it. Be kind of, you know, don't be super direct and serious. Just be a nice guy. And, man, you're going to get some info. That's how you do it. Man, I tell you what, being around all these people in construction, they know exactly what I do.

I'm always shooting the breeze with them about Bigfoot and whatnot. And I'll go up to them and I'll be like, man, you know, this is going to be random. But in my experience, it seems like everybody's got to. at least one bizarre story to tell in their lifetime, at least one weird things happen on that they can't quite account for. You ever had anything like that? And he'll kind of be like, well, you mean like supernatural? I mean like, yeah, you know, supernatural, Bigfoot, anything like that?

And he'd be like, well, I was in this house when I was a young man. And it was attributed to be haunted. And me and my buddies were up there and we were up in the attic. And all at one time out of nowhere, all the doors in the house, every single door in the house just slammed shut all at once. and we got the heck out of there. And I don't think he's a gentleman that generally believes in that type of thing. So everybody seems to have at least one story to tell generally.

That is a great piece of advice, too, about how to approach someone. Like, what's your weird thing? Oh, that's so good, man. I love it. I'm going to remember that one, too. Are you a guy that tries to go after the reports that are held by the state forestry and the state parks in your state? Do you do any of those report things or stick more to witness reports? Well, we sort of just have areas.

You know, we've always went to, you know, as family, like, hey, there's an activity up here. Let's go up here. So I usually hit the same spots. Over in Dayton, Tennessee, there's a park up there called Pocket Wilderness or I think the newer names like Laurel Falls or Laurel State Falls or something like that. But the town's always called the pocket wilderness. One of the rangers, the officials up there, he'll be pretty open and just tell you, yeah, there's Bigfoot in this park.

I've had people that, let me back up. There's like a, there's been a lot of coal money. done in that park before. Okay. And there's a ventilation shaft that you can walk up to that's right along the path. Basically, on one half, you got all these, this beautiful water rushing and big giant boulders. And on this other side, you got the hills going right up to the mountain. It's the most beautiful park I've ever been to.

But there's a ventilation shaft on, excuse me, one of those hillsides. And he's had like five different people tell them that they've seen a big foot coming out of that ventilation shaft. It only goes so far back, but it's, you know, it's full of water and whatnot. And maybe something goes in their drink or just get shelter. It's not extremely big. But even he seen it. It was throwing stuff off of one of the hillsides at his truck. I remember he said something like that someone told him they were hiking up somewhere along that hill.

And they seen one up there. I believe it was a reddish color. And it was a fairly violent Bigfoot. But yeah, I've got him. I wouldn't post it because I wouldn't want him to, you know, lose his job or anything. But I've got audio of him recorded telling us about it. And even his boss told him, man, stop telling people this stuff. You're going to scare somebody.

But he just seems to keep telling people. Elijah, how do you get a park ranger to get, like, to be, like, you just ask him, hey, you're okay with being recorded talking about Bigfo or how does that go down? He's super cool about it. Okay, okay. You'll go up there and he'll just kind of be leaning on a post. I guess he loves the history of the park. Real good guy.

He's like, you want some history and he'll go up and just shoot the breeze and he'll tell you about like the history of the park, show this like photo album he's made of like the ventilation shafts. And there's like an old dynamite shack he'll show you pictures of. And he just kind of, I guess just sort of transition the conversation or at some point he may just kind of tell you. Yeah, there's something up here.

but I remember even seeing somewhere online where somebody was talking about the Ranger up there, you know, telling him a Bigfoot story like just some random post online. Oh, I got. He's super open about it. Yeah, I mean. Amazing, dude.

He may still be up there. I haven't seen him in a long time, but that's wild. Real cool guy. The thing I love about your area, it is so rich with just wild, untamed stories of creatures and supernatural and things you can't explain

and everybody seems to be into it. It is awesome. It's a weird spot down here, man. Does that ever get old? I love all sorts of weird stuff. So I'm like, oh man, we got all this down here. We got Bigfoot over here. We got Dogman over here.

I love it, man. I mean, it's like you're living Scooby-Doo pretty much. Like you just go out on the weekends and, you know. Yeah. What's really ironic is where I live historically before this was Tennessee and Kentucky. Some organization called like the Henderson organization, which is ironic, the Henderson Foundation, something. No, maybe it's just a bunch of Henderson's, but they are with the Transylvania Company. And this land around here actually used to be called Transylvania.

So, I mean, how's that for ironic, you know? Jeez. Wow, that's weird, man. Looking for monsters in Transylvania. That is crazy. Was there ever a time that, you know, I know you said earlier that you, earlier in all this, you guys were Bigfoot 100%. Was there ever a time when you're out looking for Bigfoot that things just got. got to a point where you're like, you know what, I'm not sure if I want to be right here right now.

Like, it just got a little bit too crazy. Well, actually, there has been a time or two like that over in an Indian mound. This was, I was still fairly young at the time. I was with my dad, fellow researcher. His name was Jason Acy and my sister. and we're walking, it's on somebody's like around somebody's property like where they've built now, so we can't really get to it as well as we could years ago now. But we were crossing one of the fields out there, and there's a,

there is a cave off in the woods somewhere over in that area, and we're going to that cave. It's a big rock face, and it's a pretty narrow gap that you can crawl into, and it opens up. But it's a fairly decently sized cave, but it's a tight entrance in the front. You know what I mean? But anyway, we were going to that cave

and we spied some blue eyeshine off in the woods, which there's not really a lot of animals that give off blue eyeshine. We had heard that juvenile animals have a blue eye shine color, and we didn't know if maybe there was some sort of a, like a juvenile Sasquatch there. It was low to the ground, and there's kind of a ditch behind where it was. And, you know, we shined her lights at it and just kind of stared at it for a few minutes.

And then went further off in the woods toward this thing. Well, toward the cave, my bad. And we're walking along, and I got this audio somewhere. You hear just something snapping. You can hear, like, the individual fibers of a tree snapping. And then, boom, this tree just slams on the ground. And I heard something hollering. I don't think anybody else with me.

Heard it, but I heard it. And that was one of the only times my dad has ever drawn his gun in the woods. He's like, yeah, Jason, you and me, we can come back if you want, but I need to get my kids out of here. You know, this is, this is dangerous. And he had his gun out and ready in case something came out. But we left. We didn't know if maybe we got too close to its juvenile. And it was kind of letting us know, hey, stay out of here.

But that's one of the only times. I've ever seen my dad draw a gun in the woods. And we're not like pro kill people, but you know, we're pro. If something attacks us, we're going to, we're going to defend ourselves, you know what I mean? You're pro. I'm going to get out of this alive if I have anything to say about this. Absolutely. You can attack me, but I'm going to go out fighting, you know what I mean?

That's right. That's right. I don't know your thoughts about this, but it's like if someone actually, you know, let's say these groups where it's like, we're going to take down a big foot. but well dude you might but it's going to be the worst day you've ever experienced after you take down that big foot and the other three come out

just disgruntled as I'll get out and dude you guys are going like I don't want to wish bad on anyone but it's like man you just be careful if you're going to take one down you better be ready for its brothers that are coming after you well you know you got all these stories of people shooting these things and nothing happens

but you don't hear a lot if if it if people try to shoot toward the face and eyes or the neck you know if I was going to try to shoot something like that I would aim for probably either the neck the mouth or the eyes you know

the sensitive areas that's interesting yeah that's very interesting I've never thought that deep about it I'm not a I'm not a a super outdoors man if you can imagine but um

Yeah, that's interesting to think that's an interesting discussion there. I mean, if you think about it, if it was something, you know, some sort of ape-like thing that's as massive as people say, you already got a lot of thick muscle on its chest. And then you got that thick chest bone that the bullet would have to penetrate. And if you aim for the head, you know, if it's like an ape, you also have a lot of apes have kind of that thick brow that you'd have to worry about as well. so you better be carrying something with some knockdown power you know

just something like that I can't go to LBL tomorrow night or something dude that is so man this has been a super fun discussion I think a good intro discussion to what what you all are up to

down there in Tennessee and guys you need to go over to Elijah's YouTube channel next after you're done listening to this. And you just need to start watching some of those videos because there's some wild, wild stuff going on in there.

Elijah, thank you so much for hanging out with me in the main show. We're going to be talking for a little bit longer about some dogman stuff, some LBL stuff. That's going to be for the Patreon after show. I've got maybe some other questions to ask you about some other non-Bigfoot-related creatures. Absolutely. Please, take it, take a few minutes.

If there's anything else that you would like to make sure the listeners know anything you need to plug besides the YouTube channel, go right ahead, man. Thank you, brother. And I've had a blast on here as well, just so you know. Thank you. My main outfit is Crypted Studies Institute. My main platform is YouTube. You know, I upload all my investigations, documentaries and whatnot all there. you can find most, if not all those sounds.

Well, not one of them because I just haven't uploaded it. But a lot of our sounds are on there. You can go and listen to or they'll be in the videos for each area. But yeah, come over and check out the channel. Let me know what you think. We got a lot of different dogman research videos, Bigfoot. Got a lot of different things on there. And yeah, I guess that's all I got.

If you want to send me a friend request on Facebook, feel free too. We're on Facebook. We got an Instagram that I don't really use anymore. Sorry. But yeah, that's basically it, y'all. That's awesome. And the cool thing about this podcast is I have, like, listeners all over the place. If there's a person, let's say, if they know something weird in that area,

how best can they get in touch with you to say, hey, man, I got to tell you about what happened to me in this area so you know about it. Well, you can always drop me a comment on YouTube, send me a message on Facebook, or my email is Crypted Studies Institute at gmail.com. I'll try to get back as quick as, you know, when I can. I'm sorry, I'm bad about getting back quickly. You know how that went, Jeremiah. I have good intentions, but I'll generally forget to reply back to somebody.

I'll get a message. Oh, yeah, I'll reply that in just a few minutes. And I'll forget it. It'll be like two days later. That's all right. Whoops. Well, yeah, I'll try to get back to everybody when I can. And remember, if you're in the Patreon,

go have a listen because we're going to be talking about LBL and Dogman. And the rest of y'all can check that out to Patreon.com. For us, the Bigfoot Society. Thank you so much for coming on, Elijah. I have no problem, brother. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.

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So by my calculations, once we get 824 people in the Patreon, we should be good to go. So what I did is we're going to do it a little bit differently. It's now adding the current amount plus the amount that are joining. And there's tons of people joining every day. It's wild guys. So right now we're 176 members are in there ready to go out of the 824 that are needed in order for us to go full time. That puts us at about 22%. So if you've been putting around back and forth the idea of joining the Bigfoot Society Patreon,

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But thanks again so much for listening, guys. You're her and I can get on here and we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening. It's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's things? I know what I saw.

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