Bigfoot Society - Sasquatch Encounters with Norma and Bob in Worcester County, Massachusetts

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

Norma and Bob are Bigfoot researchers based out of Connecticut that are no strangers to the subject. They have been involved with a few episodes of Finding Bigfoot and are constantly helping witnesses comes to terms with what they have seen all around New England. In this episode, we discuss their research area in Worcester County, Massachusetts and also some extraordinary occurrences that have happened in Connecticut as well.Resources: Zoom H2 recorder - https://amzn.to/46B7JLj (Amazon affiliate link)Email: [e-mail] THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzEDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast?Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_link Tune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!--Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.-- MY GEARMy Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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And we're like, okay, shh. This thing, it sounded like a freight train was coming through the woods. This thing was looking through the woods. It was running so fast. You could hear branches breaking and as you're, and it's coming toward us. And all you can hear is this thing running. And I don't know what made it stop, but all of a sudden, and it's getting, like I said, it's getting closer to us.

And all of a sudden, it just stopped on a dime. It just stopped running. And we're like, what the heck is that? You know, and we're kind of talking saying, what could that be? That would just stop like that. Today's conversation is with Norma and Bob, Connecticut-based Bigfoot researchers. We talk specifically about their Bigfoot research area that is based out of Worcester County, Massachusetts. They've both been heavily involved with multiple New England episodes of Finding Bigfoot

and have helped a large amount of New England Bigfoot witnesses come to grips. with what they've experienced in the Satsquatch phenomenon. I hope you enjoy this episode of Bigfoot Society. And please subscribe and share this episode with a friend. Thanks for listening. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Norma and Bob. They are Bigfoot researchers from, well, based out of Connecticut now,

but they've also done things in Massachusetts in the past as well. But how are we doing today, Norma? Great. How are you? Oh, I'm doing good. I had the privilege of already talking to you a little bit. We had a pre-interview chat earlier today, and that was awesome. We talked about, you know, you've been involved with a lot of things over the years. Pretty cool stuff being involved with finding Bigfoot over the years,

and definitely it is great to start to know your background and almost, you know, almost in a little bit of a way. But what else do we have going on tonight for you, Norma? Well, planning on going out tomorrow night and doing some research with another friend and my husband. We haven't been out. We're going actually to the mass area

where we've researched for quite a few years. since 2006. We had a little expedition there in 2007, and it's been quite a active area, to say the least. And it's been pretty interesting and a lot of fun, but also sometimes it's a little unnerving. You know, when you're out in the pitch dark, because, I mean, we're out there in the pitch dark. And I know it's cliche to say you can't sing your hand in front of your face, but honestly, that's the truth.

It's so dark. We just, sometimes we're just sitting in the dark, listening to everything that's around us and hoping that, you know, one of these creatures will approach us as opposed to us trying to draw it in, you know, You know what I mean? So we're out there doing our thing, having fun, learning a lot, having other people that are new, you know, come out with us. We had this, he's a really great friend now, but he, I don't even know who introduced us, but he wanted to go out so bad. And we went out to this Massachusetts research area.

And we built a fire. I was with another one of my friends who has gone out with me many times. But he pretty much stayed by the fire. He wouldn't leave the fire. I'm like, come on, you know, come on over here. We hurt something. So we moved away. We kind of walked away from the fire.

And he's like, I'll stay. I hear. So just my friend and I were kind of standing there. And what we were hearing was whistles, these very light whistles. And I thought it was my friend. And I had, what we listen with is an H2 recorder. So I always have it on and I'm always recording. And when we go out, usually I have now I have like four H2s so that everybody can have one and I also have amplifiers that connect to the H2s. So everybody that comes out with us is hearing the same thing that we're hearing. However, I only had one at the time and I had it on and I was listening and I thought

my friend was doing it. I said, are you, are you doing that? He said, no. And I should have known because if you've ever listened through an H2, or I think they have new ones now, mine are, I love the H2s, but I think they have HN4 or HN2 or something like that. But you can't, you can't not hear everything that's going on. you move or you or you brush your you know your jacket and it's like so loud so I should have known that he wasn't doing it but I had to ask him anyway because you know you just I don't want him

messing with me and he said no I'm not doing it and and our friend was sitting at the fire and he was hearing it too so we ended up listening for a little bit and it was so it was so subtle And it was so close. And I think that's why it was so subtle. It was, I don't think it was meant to be loud. And when we, when we heard it, after we heard it, I turned the H2 on. I was standing there for a little while with the recording and nothing was happening. So I shut the recorder off.

I shut the recording part off and was just listening. And it would happen again. I was like, wouldn't you figure? So I'd put it on again and, you know, nothing would happen. And then as soon as I shut it off, something would happen. So that went on for a little bit. And then we went back to the fire with, you know, this other guy. Since then, though, this friend of ours has been with us for quite some time.

And he is a trip. And we have such a good time. you know when you go out and research sometimes in the majority of the time there is nothing going on you are just sitting there in the dark waiting for something that hopefully happen and nothing does so it's probably i don't know 80% of the time nothing happens so when you're sitting there you're either you know when my husband and i are out there you know we we pretty much know how the two of us work you know we know how we will we'll converse with each other and we'll see oh that was an interesting sound or something like that but when there's other people with you

and they don't know what those sounds are especially if they're new and they hear these things, you know, they're like, oh, what is that? So they step all over the audio, if you know what I mean. Sometimes you just have to stop and say, okay, let's just listen and wait and see what happens, you know, and we're all kind of quiet. Or if we're talking, like this friend of ours, his name is Fred, and he is a real cut up. And we are in there. Sometimes we are laughing and joking.

And the amazing thing is that the age two's, even though there's other noises, you know, especially when you're, because we can hear each other really well. But when there's other noises, they kind of stick out. I don't know how that works. I don't know how it happens, but it does. And one of us will hear something and we'll go, you know, I just heard something. So we'll all like just all of a sudden we'll all just be quiet and listen. And either something will happen or, you know, maybe it's another animal out there that we're not, you know, that we say, oh, okay, that was a coyote or, you know, maybe a little chipmuck or something running around squeaking.

So it's pretty interesting with him because he's so, he's so. funny and he gets us all going and we'll be hysterical. One time we were doing that, we were in the car and he was sitting in the seat behind us and this is what we do. I mentioned to you before that we have done in our research so many methods of research. We've gone out there and we have walked trails in the middle of the night until dawn. We have camped out. We have sat in the dark. We have done so many things.

We've knocked on trees. We've made calls. We've done all kinds of things throughout, you know, our research. And several years ago, we were going out during, I think it was, probably in November when it was starting to get cold. And my husband and I decided that we're going to try something different. We're going to just drive out to our research area. We're not going to start a fire.

And we've done plenty of that. We've been in five-degree weather, you know, researching the squash. Or probably laughing at us saying, what are these people crazy? out in five degree weather when they're to hold down somewhere nice and warm. They're not coming out. So, you know, we actually with another friend of ours, my husband and I,

and another friend of virus, we went out and we did the whole, I mean, it was, again, we don't go out until late at night. We don't go out until like probably 11 or 12. Steve calls it Squatch 30. So it's, you know, it's 12.30. So we go out there and, or we went out there. It was kind of, he had a little pop-up tent.

He brought his grill because sometimes, you know, you want to get those smells out there. Maybe they'll draw something in. And built a fire, freezing cold out there. And we had, and it started to like, it was like a light. mist, like an icing mist was coming, was, was starting to come out or happen. And we heard something.

And then we kind of just, oh, I don't know what that was. Maybe it was, you know, I don't know. I don't know what we thought it was. But when we had driven in, there was snow on the ground. And there were no other tracks going into this area. So we know, you know, there was nothing else. And there were no other tracks, like no animal tracks or anything like that. So we're sitting there and not 15 feet away from us.

We decided to get up and walk up the road. And as we're walking up the road, we're going back to where our tire tracks were. And we're following our tire tracks. And we saw moose tracks in the snow. Wow. So whatever we briefly heard, there was a moose. And he was a pretty good prints, these size, this is a pretty good size prints. So it came through the woods.

And of course, like I said, it was that icing was happening. And we could hear it on the little awning that he brought, the little pop-up tent or awning that he brought. And so that might have had something to do with it, you know, when other sounds are happening. you can't hear, you know, what you really need to hear. So we heard something briefly and then that was it. But the moose came through one side of the road and through the woods, crossed the road and went through the other side of the woods. And we're like, wow, that was so close.

And we didn't even hear it. which kind of made us think about, okay, had that been a big foot, would we have heard that? You know? Right. We probably wouldn't have. So it's, you know, it's interesting these different scenarios that you go through. So again, we've been through them all. We've done all kinds of methods of, you know, research and the one that we tend to stick with.

And we do get up. We do still get out and walk at night and do things like that. I'll tell you one story that was kind of funny. But we decided to just go and sit in our car, put our H-2s out the window and just listen. It was freezing out anyway, you know, so. We'll stay in the car. Hopefully we'll keep a little warm. We don't turn on the car.

We just, you know, dress warm, bring some blankets. Our dog always goes with us. She's been squatching since she was eight weeks old. So she's used to it. And we just all bundle up and we listen and so many things. It seems like, like I said, we're not, we're not bothering them. We're not out there knocking on trees. And I'm not.

I'm not saying that's not a good thing. I'm not saying, you know, there's all kinds of things that we do as researchers. And that's fine. We've, like I said, we've done it. And on occasion, we'll still go out there and maybe knock on a tree when we're bored. Like, nothing's happening. Let's knock on a tree and see what happens. Or somebody else that comes with us will say, okay, well, I'm going to get out.

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So one night in the Massachusetts research area, we were all sitting there. And in my, our friend Fred, he's the cut up. He's such a great guy. And we were having a good time. Nothing was going on. Nothing. And we're just, you know, they make up Bigfoot songs to regular songs. It's really hysterical.

While they're doing that and most, some of the time I'll, you know, I'll like jump in and do another sound, but a song or something. But I'm listening, you know, I'm listening to what's going on. I'm listening to them. but I'm really kind of tuning into as those two. It's like a comedy show. So those two are going at it. And I'm laughing along with them, but I'm listening too.

And if I hear anything, I'll say, oh, I just heard something. Everybody would just go silent. So it's almost like that radio silent, you know. Everybody will go silent and would just be listening. So one night, we're sitting there. We've been there quite, some time. I think it was about, I would have to say about four in the morning and it was cooler out.

All of a sudden, they're, you know, they're doing their comedy show there and I'm listening and all of a sudden I hear something off in the distance. And Bob actually heard it at the same time. And we're like, okay, this thing, it sounded like a freight train was coming through the woods. This thing was looking through the woods. It was running so fast. You could hear branches breaking and as you're, and it's coming toward us. And all you can hear is this thing running. And I don't know what made it stop, but all of a sudden, and it's getting, like I said, it's getting closer to us. And all of a sudden, it just stopped on a, on a, time it just stopped running and we're like what the heck is that you know and we're kind of talking saying what could that be that would just stop like that and then it just picked up and started running again

just as fast as it was running the first time and then it stopped again and this time it's closer to us Fred's sitting in the back seat. We have a Dodge caravan. So he's sitting in the bar. We took the middle seats out, so he's in the back. And he's like, what is that? So when it stopped the second time, then it started walking. And it was, like I said, it was pretty close to us.

And, you know, the H2 is omnidirectional. So sometimes it's really hard to pinpoint where it is. It's not like a parabolic, you know, where you can turn it and really zero in on the noises. But when you use it a lot, you tend to be able to at least gauge, you know, where it might be coming from. So, well, at least, you know, my husband and I usually can do that. on occasion, you know, when we're hearing something that's really close, we kind of have to really zone in and try to figure out where is this coming from. So this thing was close to us and it was walking.

And it must have been staying just inside the dark wood line because we, we lit ourselves up. And when I say, sometimes I'll tell my husband, light us up. he's usually in the driver's seat and what what that means is turn on the headlights and see if we can catch whatever it is that's out there making that noise so that's exactly what we did we lit it up well this thing didn't stop it kept walking and it was getting closer to us so we're trying to figure out where it is Fred is he's like this thing it's really close. I said, I know. And so we're listening. And at one point, you could hear, and it wasn't

a four, it wasn't a four feet, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't a deer. It wasn't anything that was quad. It was something that was bipedal. So he's, he's kind of freaking out a little bit. And he said, and so I said, okay, so maybe if we start, we couldn't, you know, we can only see so far. And we have a high powered light. So I usually take that out and I'll be scanning. And I did that, but I couldn't see anything. I hate when that happens, but I couldn't see anything. And so I said, okay, if we turn the car on, maybe if we put the reverse, you know, we have a dash cam, you know,

Sure. And I said maybe a backup cam. So maybe if we put it in reverse, maybe we'll see something, you know, behind us. We tried that. You couldn't see anything. Again, it's so dark out there. No ambient light, no any kind of light pollution. So it's very, very dark.

And once you get to a certain, when your lights get to a certain point, you can't see beyond, you know. So then we put it in park. And we're just kind of listening to this thing. This thing isn't going away. It's walking toward us. Now, how far was it? I don't know. But it sounds, when you, when you're listening to the H2, you can hear quite a distance with

that H2. And so I don't know how close it was, but I can guesstimate because of the sound and, you know, how clear it is. And it was getting close. So Fred at one point, Bob's like, what should we do? I said, well, let's just, you know, I'm like, let's just wait and see what happens, I guess, you know. I mean, the thing's still coming. And Fred is in the back and he's like, well, I don't know what you guys are going to do, but better do something because it's right behind us.

And that's what it sounded like. It sounded like it's right behind us. But then again, your brain, you know, you're kind of in that fight or flight, right? your brain is telling you something is behind you run basically and that's the kind of thing that was going on you know with him it's right behind us well we don't know if it was right behind us it could have been on either side of us it could have been behind us you know could have been diagonally I don't know but it was it was pretty close and he was like better do something it's right behind us so we just we decided I kind of laughed but we decided we decided

to at that point to probably leave because we didn't know how close it would get to us. But man, I'll tell you, that was an incredible experience because I never heard anything run that fast and stop just like that. That was crazy. Did you have your dog with you at that time? Yep. How did your dog react? She is so used to all the noises that we hear out there.

And there have been a few times when definitely she has perked up. She will look and she can't see, obviously, you know, when it's that dark. But you can see her head turning in a direction where she hears it. So one night, another night in the same exact location, Bob and I went out and she was with us. and I'm usually the tech person. So I get everything ready. You know, I get the H2s ready. If I have, we have a night vision that, you know, I keep nearby that records.

There's no sound, but it records. And it takes still photos. So I'm the techie. I'm the one that gets it all together, puts things together, get them all started, you know, hand them out to everybody. And that's when we get there. that's what we do. And also when we get the, when we first get there,

we usually do a perimeter, you know, check just to see, you know, if there's any other animals out there, coyotes or, you know, bear or anything or deer or anything like that out there. So when I get it together,

you know, I'll give him his each two and I have mine. So we just got, we just got there. And Bob had the window open a short amount of time. He just, you know, he had it about halfway down. And Jenna, our dog, was she had that low growl, you know. She wasn't barking, but she had that low growl that she was looking directly out the driver's side into the woods. And she was not, you know, she was not happy.

She heard something. And Bob said, I hear something. I said, okay, well, I got to get things together. You know, I said, that's, I just got, I'm, I'm not together yet. I don't have everything on and ready. And he goes, well, I hear something and it's really close. I said, well, roll up the window, you know? I don't know what to tell you.

So I just got everything ready and then I handed it to him and he put it out there. And sure enough, we could hear something very, very. very, very close to us. We heard it very close to us on the driver's side. And then we heard something further off, but it was, you know, a little ways. But this, whatever it was that was very close to us sounded agitated. It was moving, you know, kind of right in one area, if you know what I mean.

It was kind of, I don't know if it was like moving back and forth or pacing or whatever, But it was kind of just, you know, right there. And I'm like, I was like, wow, what is going on? And we hadn't been there. What, maybe I think the entire time we were there. I was setting up. It was probably five minutes. I think the entire time was maybe seven minutes.

When we got the H2 on, put them out the windows, heard that, the scuffling. and then all of a sudden there was this huge whack on a tree. I mean, this thing was like it had some force like a Louisville just hit the side of a tree and it just popped.

It was so loud. And Pop was like, holy crap. It was right there. And then shortly after we heard another knock a distance away. And then after that one, and I'm saying a distance away, it was probably about 50 yards maybe, 40 yards.

And then another one in between the two. Well, after that, after that loud, you know, a tree knock and it was a tree whack. It was so loud. incidentally we have that recorded on the H2 everything was recorded on the H2 I usually one of the H2s is usually recording and it's usually mine because they don't know how to work them so I just I record on mine but you can still set it up so you can listen without recording so mine is recording theirs are just on you know listen but man he was like

they are not happy. I think we came in on maybe a hunt or something. Maybe they were hunting and we interrupted, you know, whatever it was they were doing. But that it did not want us there. And that has to be probably in the, gosh, how many years have we been, probably I think we're 16 years in research.

I've never heard another one like that since. It was so loud. It's almost like when lightning hits a tree, you know? It's a really loud pop. So that was pretty interesting. So we weren't there very long. We actually thought it probably would be best to leave the area since they were right there. So that was another one.

But, you know, our dog, she has perked up a couple times and we watch her. usually. We'll watch her and we'll listen if she does that low growl. You know, we know something is up. But most of the time, she's pretty, she's pretty calm. And I know a lot of people, you know, say Bigfoot don't like dogs or dogs, you know, cower and all of that stuff. I think it's because she was so young when we started this that maybe she's just used to it. we used to put her in a backpack and take her hiking with us.

Oh, wow. So she's, you know, she's hiking as far as like research, big foot, you know, in the woods kind of at night hiking. We don't, we don't keep her on a leash, you know, because we don't want anything to happen to her. Sure. If anything were, you know. Your first sip should do more than simply start today. Choose vital proteins, marine collagen peptides source from Wildcaught Cod. With collagen peptides to help support healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints,

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But I think she's just so used to it that she doesn't affect her, doesn't bother. I mean, again, there are times when she does, there are times when she's perking up and she's looking straight out the window. She looks like a pointer and she's just a little Jack Russell next. Gotcha. And she's, it's pretty interesting when she does that because then we're kind of on high alert. after that we call it the runner after the runner um you know we were pretty pretty alert uh wondering if it was probably just a one time you know something maybe it was going through the area i don't know what it was doing but um it was crazy i mean have i don't know have you ever heard of that where

it just stops on a dime i have heard running that fast yeah different i've heard different accounts where you know, kind of mentioned as a, as a bluff charge where, you know, they'll run quickly towards a person through the woods, just taken down all sorts of trees and then kind of stop because they're,

they're trying to get the person, what most people say, they're trying to get the person to run away, right, to get out of their area. Now, we don't know that for sure because we can't talk to them, but like that's,

if you look at eight behavior, I mean, potentially kind of similar, but, um, Norma, there's a there's a question that probably a lot of listeners have in their head right now. So I'm going to ask it. And so we've established we're in Massachusetts, right?

And I'm excited for this interview because, you know, I spent the first 20-so years of my life out there in Western Massachusetts. And a little town called Northfield, beautiful town. Yep. Yeah, we weren't far from Northfield. Yeah, exactly. We had chatted about that. The thing about Massachusetts, there's a lot of different regions, right? There's, you've got the Berkshires, you've got October Mountain out there, you've got the Bridgewater Triangle, you've got Franklin County, you've got Boston, you've got Cape Cod all over the place, right? And I don't, I don't, is there any context you might be able to give about maybe what kind of region we're talking about when we talk about this area that you're focusing in? I don't want to push anything. thing, but... No, this is in Worcester County. Ah.

So it's out in the Worcester County area. So Franklin County is where we were from. Mm-hmm. And we went, you know, the reason we got to this location, this specific location, was because a woman, a friend of ours, he found out that we were, that we did. did Bigfoot research. And he said, well, you know, I have a friend who might have seen a big foot outside of her window. I said, really? Okay, will she talk to us?

And he said, well, I'll ask her if she'll, you know, if she'll talk to you about it. And I said, okay, I said, okay, that'd be great. So I was able to talk to her. Oh, I'm sorry. That's all right. Is that Jenna? No, that's our other dog. Gotcha.

She's a little, let's, we live out in the woods, so there's all kinds of things out here. And so, I lost my train. I thought, oh, so I was able to call her and talk to her about it. And while I was talking to her about her, I don't, when I interview people, and I've interviewed a few people, you know, over the years. and I don't lead them. I don't want to ask leading questions. I don't want to say, okay, well, was the hair that you saw brown? You know, you don't want to say that because they'll be, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was brown.

You just ask them what they saw. And that's exactly what I did with her. So what happened that, you know, that night? Tell me what happened. And so she told me that she was on her bed watching TV. It was about 2 o'clock in the morning. She was just like it was a summer night. And she was just, like I said, watching TV.

Her curtains on her window were parted. And it was probably there was a space in between, you know, one curtain, one curtain from the other, probably about eight or 12 inch space between the two curtains that, that, you know, you could see outside. And it was, like I said, 2 o'clock in the morning. So it's pretty dark out there. And just happened to see something out of the corner of her eye. So she looked over and she didn't see anything.

It's like, okay, well, whatever. then she decided to get up and part the curtains and look outside and she obviously didn't see anything because it was dark. And the distance, because we went over there and actually looked at the house and looked at the window, the distance from the ground to the window, it's a double hung window. So there's a top and bottom, right? and the bottom part of the window from the ground was over eight feet tall, eight feet high. And there was nothing there was nothing on the side of her house to climb on, to lift yourself up on. You know, any, it was just total, you know, there over there, nothing, no trees, nothing. It's just totally empty.

So she got up, she parted the curtains a little bit more. She looked out, I don't know what she thought she was going to see, but, you know, she just thought, okay, I'll just look out there. Didn't see anything, came back. And again, it was pitch dark. I think that unless somebody had a light on their house, there wouldn't be any, you know, light around there. And so she goes back on her bed and she starts watching TV again. And now this time, her curtains are parted even more, you know. And she saw something again in the corner of her eye and she looked over and she saw this face in the window.

Wow. About halfway up between, you know, the sill and where the second half of the window meets. And she saw this face in her window and she was freaking out. She called our friend, you know, the guy that we knew, and she was friends with him as well. And she said, somebody's looking through my window, you've got to come over here. You know, she was freaking out. So he went over there and, you know, he has a license to carry. So he took something over with him.

And he was looking around the house in the backyard, just kind of seeing if there was anybody there that was looking through. her window because he had no idea what it was. She didn't really tell him. She just said she saw somebody in her window. So, and that's what she was telling me. And then I said, okay, so what did you see? She said, well, she was trying to explain to me. It was really big. The head was really big. Face was dark. She said the hair was dark. But she couldn't, you know, she said, but I'm not saying that it was a big foot. I was like, okay. Yeah.

Well, just, you know, tell me what you, just tell me what you saw. And she said, I looked over there and I saw this face in the window looking in. And it was, you know, it freaked me out. And I don't know. I don't know what it was. I called Ray over. He looked around. And she said, but I'm not saying that it was a big foot.

So she kept saying that to me. I kind of chuckled and I was like, all right, that's, that's okay. That's okay. So basically she explained, or she was describing a big foot, basically, but she kept saying, you know, I'm not saying it's a big foot. She wouldn't sleep in her room for six months after that. And then, and I didn't tell you this before, but I think it was, so that was, gosh, I can't remember the time frame, but her sons and a friend of their sons was standing out in the driveway. I think they were smoking a cigarette or something. And this was probably around five, six, six in the evening.

And now the research area that we started to research in was across the street from them. They live in a very rural area. There's a few houses on that road, but across the street from them is a state forest. So that's where the proximity is. And that's her sighting and her, what happened to her, the peeping big foot, that's what got us to this area. So getting back to the sons in the driveway and their friend. They were standing there just kind of, you know, shooting the braze and having a cigarette or something, whatever they were doing. And all of a sudden they saw a big foot step over the guard, I think it was a guardrail or onto the road, cross the road toward them.

So it went from the state forest over to their side of the road, crossed that road and into the woods. and they couldn't believe what they were saying. And they quickly went into the, because it was starting to get dark, they went into the house and got flashlights and went into the area where they saw the big foot go in. And they obviously couldn't find it. But they tried to go in and see if they could find it after that and they couldn't. Wow. But this is the same house where she saw that, you know, peeping Tom, if you will, you know, in her window.

So that was pretty interesting. So that's what got us into this research area. We decided to just go there and walk the area during the day, get a lay of the land. We went up to, they do have way up on the mountain, on the hill mountain, whatever you want to call it, deeper into the state forest. They do have primitive camping. And it's really primitive. It's not, you know, this isn't glamping.

This is, you know, you don't have water. You don't have electricity. You don't have any of that stuff. It's just, you know, you're out there on your own tent, whatever you, you know, hammock, whatever you're going to do. So this area, and they do have a section where it's like this kind of a, I want to say, for lack of a better description, it's kind of like a meadow, right? There's just this really big area where you can fit like a group, you know, like if you want a group of your friends or whatever,

if you all want a tent together, you can go in this little meadow and has a, in the middle, it has a fire pit. but most of the time they don't care you know where you're camping if you want to go in that section you can go on that section but it's it can be you know for maybe i don't know five or six tents let's say so we've been there plenty of times and off of that there are trails that you can take deeper into the woods and we've gone on those trails and they're their single file so it's they're you know almost like game trails but they're basically for if you want to just walk out there and you know see where things are see where things are and we've gone as far we've gone in a few directions just exploring you know

we went in this one area that um we had to go over a couple beaver dams That was pretty sketchy. Yeah, that would be. So you don't know when you're going to fall through. That's right. So we've done that during a wintertime. And we've also done that during the summer. So in this particular area where we've gone over those beaver dams,

it kind of opens up and we found these little trails that we could explore. one of the trails, and I think I told you, there was some boulders out there. You know, these boulders were probably dropped in the ice age. I don't know. But they are situated, they're pretty big, and they're situated where it's almost like there's, I think there was like, pretty sure,

there were three of them, but they were separated, you know. So you could actually walk through them to the other side and just kind of, you know, it's not very long, but you can walk through all three of the boulders. And these boulders were, gosh, I don't know, maybe 20 feet high. They're pretty up there. And then there were spaces between the three of them, but not huge spaces, you know, maybe six, eight feet between the two or the three of them. So we've gone through there.

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And this was, I think it was February. It was February. I don't remember the year. But this was in our couple years into our research. It was, we were having, we were having weather where it would warm up and then it would be cold. and then it would warm up and then it would get cold, you know? So apparently one of these times there was a footprint had stepped on it when it was kind of warm.

The ground was kind of warm, a little mushy. And then it was hard. So when we saw it, the ground was hard. I have pictures that, you know, we took, I could probably send them to you of this footprint. we had a tape measure with us and all of that stuff. How long was the track when you measured it? The footprint was, I believe, 13 or 14 inches. And it was, it looked, hmm, it kind of looked juvenileish.

You know how juvenile, if you look at a juvenile print. their prints are a little more narrow than a full grown, you know, big foot. Maybe I'm off the wall, but that's what I, that's all, that's what I've known. But it looked like it was a little more narrow, but I think the width of it was about four inch, three or four inches. So, but it was the way it was, it was crossing in that, that one little space and it was very narrow. The rest of it was pine needles and, and, you know, leaves and stuff. So it was a very narrow path.

And it just happened to cross that particular place when the ground was softer and left a track. and it was heading toward, kind of toward the, or crossing toward the boulders. It was really close to the boulders. So we thought that was, that was pretty interesting. Who's going to be out here in February, you know?

Yeah. Bare foot, barefoot, you know. And it was clearly toes, it was clearly a footprint. So that was pretty interesting. But these boulders, which was just really cool, we had gone back to those boulders. several times and one of the times, you know, on the, on the latter end of that, of going back there,

we had gone into the boulders and when we went in there, we noticed that there in those spaces that I told you were in between those three boulders. There was twigs and branches and just a whole thing. It was almost like it was blocking those spaces between the three boulders. Just bramble. I mean, it was just, you know, sticks and twigs just thrown into like this makeshift blockage or something. And we thought that was pretty interesting on both sides, you know, of in between those three boulders. It still had the, you know, the.

you know, the path going between them. You could still go between them, but the spaces between the three were blocked. And we're like, wow, you know, what's this all about? Because we had never seen that prior to going there. And they were always open and easy to get through. But these, this one time,

it was just blocked, like, almost like a hurting situation, you know what I'm saying? You want to hurt something in there and it can't get out. It only has one way in, one way out. And then to be, you know, up on those boulders, I guess you're, you know, you try to think, you're trying to rationalize what could this be? What could this mean, you know? And knowing that they're bigfoot in the area, was it something that they were doing?

Was it, you know, were they perched up on one of these boulders? Some other, you know, Bigfoot was hurting maybe a deer in there or something. I don't know. But it was pretty interesting. And I know, you know, they must do things like that. Animals do that all the time. trying to ambush, you know, a deer or something like that. So that was pretty interesting.

Another thing that happened in that area on the way to the boulders, we were coming, I think we were coming back. And I looked across to the other section of the woods. And this was the weirdest thing. the trees there were like this line of trees obviously it's coincidental that these trees were kind of lining up

but you know again you can just look down and see like several trees that were that were in a row up in the crooks of the branches were these long other long branches and it was high it was high up It had to have been about maybe 30 feet up.

In the crooks of the branches, there were these horizontal tree branches that were just in there, you know, across. And then I looked across the other trees and it was the same thing. There was this long tree branch that was just in the crook of the tree going. There were several. And I was, what, how did that? How did those get up there? You know? Sure.

I guess people could do that. But what would the purpose of that be and out in the middle of nowhere? Right. That kind of stuff, it just, that boggles my mind because it's like, it doesn't make any sense for someone to do that in a tree that's so high up and just it doesn't make sense. And like, what's the logic behind that? You know, it's very weird stuff when you see stuff like that. Yeah, it was really, really interesting.

And it was in that same area. But, I mean, it wasn't close to the boulders, but it was in that vicinity of the boulders. And I thought, wow, that is. And I'm not talking, you know, 10 foot branches. These were like little saplings. Wow. That were placed up there. in this vertical, you know, pattern.

And I'm like, holy cow, what the what the heck is that? You know, what, how, it was boggling, you know, it's kind of like, wow. Yeah, people need to, listeners need to realize that the county you're talking about, Worcester County has some very wild area in it, you know. I grew up in Northfield. Yeah. My father and I, we used to go hiking in the Coabin Reservoir area all the time. You are out in the sticks when you go into the clock.

It's like you don't mess around because that's a massive amount of wooded area in many different forests around there. You just, you've got to be prepared. So I can see how you're experiencing these types of things there. Yeah, it was really, it was really interesting. And we've had, we've had so many experiences there. when we went out, like I said at the beginning of our research, we would do the whoops and, you know, calls and things like that. None of the guys would, I was the only female.

None of the guys would do that. It was like a, yeah, yeah, I'm not doing that. That's, that's just too embarrassing for me. I can't, I can't do that. So I would be the one doing it, you know. I'd be letting out these calls or whoops or something like, you know, whatever. And it was amazing because some of the time the whoops that came back sounded like me. So you had return whoops.

Yeah, we had return whoops. Wow. And on several occasions, the whoops sounded like my, exactly like my whoop that went out. And one of the guys said, did you hear that? It sounded just like you. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of creepy. exactly like that. So finally I was able to get the guys to, you know, do at least some. I said, guys, I can't do this myself all the time. Come on.

You guys got to do something. So my husband started doing it. And, you know, one of our other friends would try it. But, you know, it's so funny how they were. But at any rate, were you able to prove that the sounds coming back to you were not like an echo. coming back? Were there any... Absolutely not an echo.

Okay. No. No, it didn't happen like right. You know, I know what an echo is. It didn't come back that quickly. You know, it wasn't like you let out that yell and then you could hear it. You know, it was not even in that realm of, in that realm of, an echo coming back.

You can't echo there anyway. Gotcha. Got you. There's no echoing when you're out there. You're in the deep woods. You're bouncing. You know, it's not like you have a cavern or, you know, an open area where you're just like, ah, you know, and you get it back.

It's nothing like that. So, you know, it's definitely not an echo. But it's been, you know, it was, I mean, it was pretty cool. But we've had several things like that, you know, happen. We've also had coyotes go off. And you hear, I'm a singer, so I can hear tones and hear, you know, notes and know how that sort of thing works out. And my husband, he's also musically inclined. He plays guitar and drums.

So he's got that, and he sings. So he's got that same kind of thing. People who are musically inclined will understand, I think, what I'm saying. You can hear when something's off or you can hear different, you know, tones and things like that. So there was several on several, again, several occasions. we will hear coyotes going off.

And not every single time. So let me be clear about that. Every single time a pack of coyotes starts yipping that we hear anything else going on. But on occasion, there would be packs of coyotes going off. And you can hear something distinctly hear this long, drawn out. howl or, you know, yell or something that's kind of mixed in with the coyotes. Really kind of creepy when you're listening to it because you're like, whoa, that's, that's something different. And it's powerful and it's, you know, it gets this climactic point and then comes down, you know, so it's not like a, like a, uh,

You know what I'm saying? Like a coyote would, you know, do the whole yipping and, and yeah, they're pretty loud. But it's different. You can hear it. The way you describe it. It sounds like it might almost be like an Ohio howl. Is it something similar to that? Well, I guess it would be similar, but not exactly.

It's a little bit different. I don't know how to explain it, but you know, we could hear it amidst what the coyotes were doing. So it was, it's pretty interesting. You know, can I say for sure that was Bigfoot? No, absolutely not. Can I say anything that we experience out there is absolutely Bigfoot? No, I can't, you know. but I'll tell you what

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I was telling you before, the reason we got the H2, I was on a, we were on a group. And we used to go out there. I don't know what, I still don't know what. what we're thinking. There's just been times that we're like, we're going to die. You know, what are we doing out here? You know, our car, our tent, our, you know, I mean, anything could get rolled. We've talked about that before. What if they, you know, decide to just roll our van or what is, you know, what are we going to do? We're not going to do anything. There's nothing we can do, you know, but it's always kind of there that something like that could happen.

And I know there's people out there to say, oh, Bigfoot's not going to hurt you. You know, it's just a warm, fuzzy little teddy bear. Well, I'm sorry, I'm not on that. I'm not on that group. I don't ever, you know, tell anybody. I don't care what it is. This is something. And again, what is.

Bigfoot, I don't know. I call it a creature. I call all these little creatures that are out there. I don't know what Bigfoot is. I'm not even going to go there. But it's also, it's a wild thing, you know, just like any other wild animal. It's unpredictable. I'm not going to tell anybody that they're never going to get hurt. When I go out, when I bring people out there, I don't know what's going to happen. You have to be aware of that. I'm we come across a bear. I'm not going to tell them that bear is not going to do anything to you. Yeah. I'm, you know, I can't do that. I can't in good conscience, conscience, do that. And I've gone out and I've done talks, you know, at libraries and I've been on podcasts and things like that.

I'm not going to tell people that you're not going to get hurt. how many times have you heard, you know, stories that people have told you where they've been escorted out of the woods? More than a few. By a big foot. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that, we had a bluff charge.

Okay. This wasn't the runner. This was a bluff charge. Okay. We, um, we went one other time. It was just Bob and I. Um, doing our thing, you know, we're listening.

We get there and as soon as we get there and get set up and get settled, we just start listening. And he had his H2 on one side. I had mine and the other. And again, I tell you, they're omnidirectional. But if you set them up in a certain way, you might not hear. another section of the area. And I don't know how he had his set up.

What I usually do with mine is mine is going vertically. So that it's, you know, up above and it can, and the way it's turned, it can hear, you know, pretty much all the area. And I don't, like I said, I don't know how he had his setup. But we're sitting there listening. I hear these little, you know, twigs, little snapping twigs on the ground kind of the thing, you know, like if you step on something, step on a little twig and you hear it snap. I was hearing that off and on. And again, when we go out there, we don't go straight for Bigfoot. Not everything is Bigfoot.

You know, I hate to break it to whomever, but not everyone. Everything is big foot. We don't start off thinking, all right, well, we just heard that twig snap. So that must be big foot. No, I mean, there's deer out there. There's little critters out there running around. There's, you know, all kinds of things. All kinds of night, you know, porcupines, raccoons, fox, all that stuff, you know, that are walking through the woods.

So no, we don't go straight for, you know, that's big foot. So when we hear these little snaps, you just kind of, eh, you know, it's whatever. But you continue, obviously, you continue to listen and try to see exactly what it might be. Will you ever know? We can usually tell if it's, you know, like a raccoon or if it's a little, you know, animal kind of scurting around. it's the same it's the same sound it doesn't really change much you know it's when the big snapping starts happening that you kind of get on alert yeah but so we're listening and i i was hearing it up and on and kind of subtle you know it's kind of subtle and when it first started to happen after

a little bit i said yeah are you hearing that i said to bob are you hearing that i said to bob are you hearing that he said hearing what i said i don't know i kind of i hear these every once in a while i i hear these little twigs you know snap and you know could be anything but i said are you hearing that he goes not really said all right so this was going on for a little while where i was just kind of listening and i said and then a little bigger you know like a bigger branch would snap on the ground. And I said, okay, did you hear that? He's like, not really.

Like, what? I don't, why are not hearing this, you know? And I said, well, then it must be on my side because I'm hearing something. And I don't know what it is, but I'm hearing something. So again, a little while later, a little time goes by and I'm still hearing it. And I said, okay, did you hear that? He goes, yeah, I did hear that. And so we're kind of, I said, it must be on my side because I'm, I'm hearing it a lot more than you are.

So I don't know. There must be that, it must be on this side of the, you know, the van. So sat there a little bit longer. He started to hear a little subtle snapping. And I said, yeah, I said, I don't know, van. This is weird. And again, this is all in the. H2. It might not be word for word, but you know what I'm saying. So all of a sudden, oh, I think

prior to that, prior to that, off on his, I'm just going to get Bob for a second, he took the dog out, wouldn't you figure? Perfect. That's all right. Good timing, Bob. Thanks for that. Prior to that, I believe this was the first thing that happened. Bob, here he's back again. Prior to the snapping, that tree broke, right? About a half hour early. Yeah.

So what happened with that tree? Well, just a large tree went over. I mean, trees go down in the forest all the time, so no real credence to that. But it did go over and I made a silly comment. I just said, that sounds angry. I said if anything happens here,

comes or out of here, something sounds. The search charge of you. Yeah, something sounds rogue tonight. We're just, it was funny that we said that and then a half hour later.

Yeah. So he's, yeah, he had that crackling just. You said if anything comes running toward us. Yeah, we're out of here. I did say that.

We still have the runner on our mind, right? Yeah. And when we heard that, that tree come down, and it was a tree, It kind of sounded like a dead tree, like it was pushed over. And he said, if anything comes running toward us, we're out of here.

Because like I said, he still had that on his mind. So it was probably maybe a half an hour after that was when I started hearing the snapping sounds. And when he started to hear it, we're like, okay, so what is that? what is going on and then all of a sudden this thing came running through through the woods toward us I said did you hear that he goes oh yeah I hear I hear that and it was barreling for us this thing was bluff charging us and I said light us up Bob I took the flashlight that you know that big beam flashlight that we have and he threw it at me.

And he said, I mean literally threw it at me. Look out your window, he said. Yeah, scan, you know, look out your window. And so I'm fumbling with the flashlight and trying to get that, getting my wind, you know, getting it out the window trying to look. And I said, light us up. So he, and when I say light us up, I think I told you, you know, he puts on the beams. And everything around us, you know, within the circumference of the light shine, he's like, we're hoping to see something.

But again, it was on my side, you know, and I knew it was on my side. So I grabbed the flashlight and looking out there, he has the light on. and right directly across from me on my side of the vehicle. And we always have our vehicle pointed out, right? We come in, we turn it around, so it's pointing out. So we need to make a good basket away. Smart. You know, we're ready to go on this crappy road, you know, out.

So I look and there's two trees. 30 feet from where we are parked on my side of the on the vehicle. And I look out, I put the beam out there and there's, there's an eye, there's something behind the tree. I can see one eye shine, one eye.

So I see the eye shine. And it's an amber, like an amber color. The thing, the eye was pretty good size. And it's, it stopped running and this thing was this thing had intent let me tell you and we i forgot what do we call this thing bob that's the the um the creeper i think that's what we called it the creeper

because this thing was creeping up on us it was subtly making these you know obviously it had to I was walking toward us, but it was sneaking up on us. And then all of a sudden it just started running, you know, toward us at that, whenever it decided to start running toward us. And then when we lit up and I took the flashlight out, it stopped right by those trees. You know, we wondered what would have happened if we hadn't turned the lights on, If we hadn't taken the flash line out, would this thing have, you know, been on us? I don't know what its intent was, but I don't think it was good.

But it stopped and I could see it. I could see behind, you know, again, there was a space. I think there was, I think it was a group of three trees or one that was split, you know what I'm saying? So there were two smaller ones on one side and then one tree on the other side. And I could see, it was in between the two and the one. And so I could see one eye behind, come and looking behind the tree. And it was only 30 feet from us. And I was like, I see eye shine.

Bob's like, what do we do? I don't know. He goes, should we go? No, I didn't want to go, but he's like, I think we should go. And so we ended up leaving. I didn't want to go. So some of the time, some of the time we'll bring little glow sticks for curiosity kind of lores. Right.

And I think we had put a glow stick on his side and we put one on my side was on that crappy dirt. yucky, you know, whatever road, that we used to get it in there. And so when that happened, and he said, you know, we're out of here, we ended up leaving. And while we were driving out, I would still have the, you know, the beam on. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Shake up your routine with vital proteins, collagen peptides. The 20 grams of collagen source from grass fed, pasture raised, both.

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I mean, we have until done, you know. I'm like, come on. He's like, no, I'm not going back. Wow. I'm like, what? I said, I can't believe we're leaving this early. So I said, well, how about this? How about we go back?

And, you know, well, because he's still, he's out of there. He's like, I'm out. So I said, why don't we go back and see, if the glow stick is still there. He's like, no, we're not going back. So we get to the end of the road where we get to the paved road. And I said, okay, how about if we go to the right instead of, you know, to our left is heading home, to the right. I said, why don't we go to the right and see if we can skirt the area and see if anything comes out?

He's like, no, we're not going or we're leaving. And he said, if you want to come back on your own. you can drop me and Jenna off and just let me know what you want in your, let me know what you want in your obituary. So you went back. I was like, Norma went back yourself. I did. I so wanted to go back, but I didn't end up going back.

Yeah. And I was like, well, that's real nice, Bob. That's real nice. He said, you know, just let me know what you want on, you know, in your obituary. Sure. Like, yeah, good. That's good. Nice.

Do you think that was the closest to? you ever got to a big foot um well other than the that louisville hit in the tree oh sure um that's one of the well that was that was probably the most unnerving um because after that happened um when we went back the first time after that happened we were on high alert oh yeah we were on big time high alert and this could have been just a rogue. I don't know. Because none of the other

incidences ever was threatening. You know what I mean? I think that they, and this is like a few years ago. We never really had, other than that Louisville, that hit the tree.

We never really had I guess anything really really threaten us. We've had rocks thrown pebbles during the night. We had one night that we went there and it was kind of hysterical. I think that it was a juvenile because it hung around us all night and would throw little pebbles at our vehicle. And toward the end of the night, I think it was, I said to Bob, it must be like, all right, I don't know. I've had enough of this.

It sounded like it was picking up leaves and sticks and stuff from the ground and just chucking them out, you know, onto the, toward, you know, toward us. And I said, oh,

man, this is really funny. And it was starting to get a little bit lighter. You know, Don, Don was breaking. So that's usually when we leave. And it was just kind of funny.

And I said, all right. Well, I think this thing has had enough. So we went back the next night with my cousin, who we had taken, I think he was at the first time we took him out, he was like 13. And he's been doing this with us off and on for quite a few years. So at this point, when we went out, he was probably 20 and 19 or 20 and we went back the next. We told him what happened and we went back the next day and the next night. And sure enough, that thing was back again. So what happened when we first got there?

We got set up and this is again, this is the exact. This is like a hot spot and this one spot that we go to. We get there. We turn, you know, the vehicle around. We get all the H-2s together. everything. All of a sudden, and we're listening out there. And we could, you know, we hear the normal stuff and, you know, little twigs and things like that. All of a sudden, on our side, on my side of the vehicle, a rock hits the vehicle, hits the door.

Straight on. So we thought this thing was directly thrown and hit the side of the of the door. When we listened back on the H2, what actually happened was it was thrown, ricocheted off that crappy road, and popped up and hit our door. That is what actually happened. When we heard it,

it sounded like a direct hit, like it was thrown directly at the vehicle. And then again, when we listen back to it, It was, it ricocheted off the ground and popped up on our, on our door. And I said, so we're like, holy cow, here we go. And from then on, from that moment on the rest of the night, it never did it again. It just was throwing little, little pebbles.

And it would, you know, ping off the hubcap or pick, you know, the side of the tire or something. Or it would land just before us. but I'm sure that it was the same creature. It did exactly what it did the night before. And what was weird was, and I think I said to Bob, I think that wasn't oops. I didn't mean to throw it that hard.

Right. So I think, yeah, I'm sure these things are more intelligent than we think, but at any rate, I don't think it meant to do that. But because after that, It was just throwing these little pebbles. Then something even more strange happened.

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This thing, on my side of the vehicle. And I forget what it was doing, but I got the light out. and started to look outside my side of the vehicle. And I'm standing from left to right, okay? I can only go so far until I can't see past the end of the van. But I'm out there, I'm looking, and as I'm standing from left to right, I can hear this thing running or moving, walking very fast, away from the light. It was moving away.

so it would stay out of the beams. And I could hear it and I went as far back as I could on, you know, to the back of the van. And on the driver's side of the van, there's this fire access road, I think. I think it might be a fire access road. But it opens up into this, like, dirt opening, like a, I don't know, like a, I don't know, like a just an opening. It's not grass. It's just dirt, you know.

Trees all the way around it. We've been out there several times too. But it went kind of in that direction. The driver's court kind of diagonal from the driver's rear quarter panel, if you know what I'm talking about. And I, and it just, again, it just stopped. I shut the light off and we were going to see what was going to, you know, out what it was going to do.

But I'm sure it was, it was getting away from the light. So it went across and it went right in the back of the, you know, a little ways in the back of the van. And so we shut off the light, waited. We got a little few pebbles thrown. Then all of a sudden we hear this metal drop. it sounded like it sounded like

if you were to you know waist high you were to take something that was metal and drop it on a rock really it makes that

ping kind of that metal sound and we're like what the heck is it doing what what is that you know

so then we get a little concerned because we didn't want it okay you're going to remember that we thought we got directly hit it was a direct hit no hesitation that rock was thrown you know at the van so we're like okay what does this thing have is it going to throw that at the van too you know i'm thinking this this thing is going to throw it at the van break our window or something who knows um so we heard that we're like holy and again this is on the h2 it's all recorded and it's it was we

that it had something metal. But it makes sense at the same time. If this is a juvenile, it's picking things up, you know, what is this? What is, you know? And so it dropped it, it dropped on, it obviously dropped on a rock because it made that kind of, you know, metal hit and rock sound. So we're like, oh, well, I think it's, I think it's time to go because we don't want this chuck in a piece of metal at our at our vehicle and we ended up leaving but the next day bob and i went back and um we wanted to see if we could find anything that would resemble or

you know kind of make that sound so we went back and we looked around and sure enough we found this broken gusset plate wow right right in the area that we heard it drop So I obviously didn't pick it back up. It just dropped it. And we did, we looked out in the woods in that area to see if there was anything else out there that it could have been. But it was right in the exact spot that we heard it drop. So we took it with us. And we're pretty sure that that's what it was that dropped, that it had dropped on the rock.

So we weren't going to stay around and have this thing. chuck whatever metal piece that we didn't know at the time, you know, at our van. So that was, that was pretty interesting. And we've had, gosh, so many things happened there. We've pulled into that area where we will pull in and start to back up, you know, we'll pull in that fire, that kind of little fire road and then back the van up and head, you know, head it back out. when one night as we were pulling in, I saw Bob's pulling in.

He's not paying attention to the front, you know, what's out there. I'm watching out front and I could see this eye shine out there that was looking straight at the car and then bolted. And it was up. It wasn't low. It wasn't an animal. It was, you know, human height. Okay. And it just kind of looked at the vehicle and then turned and bolted.

You could see the eyes and then you could see him turn. You know, the eyes just gone. It was gone. I said, did you see that? He's like, no, what did you see? I said, oh my gosh, it was just right there. So that was that was pretty cool too. And then we we started to, or we went, I think that was during the pandemic.

When the pandemic happened. I had broken my leg. March 15th. I remember that because I was teaching at the time and I had a break after that, you know, not a break. Yes, it broke my leg, but I had a span of time between, you know, my next teaching. And so we and then it was a week later, I think it was about a week later when the whole country shut down and my husband was furloughed. So he was, he was, he was, he, he was, Actually, he was furloughed or he was told not to come back. It was the end of that week.

It was that Friday. He was told not to come back because somebody at his work had had COVID and they were in the hospital not doing well. So they had to clean the whole place, you know, that he worked at. So they said, you can't come in until, you know, Sunday night. So. And then the country basically shut down. They said, you know, everybody's going to go. go on furlough. So we obviously, I couldn't do anything. He was on, he was furloughed.

I think I took another week to, you know, recover. And then we were out there in this, the same research area, doing a lot of research. Nobody was out. There weren't planes. There weren't cars. There were, there weren't any, there was nothing out there. It was so nice and quiet, you know, it's just, it was great. So during that time, um, we noticed and remember, we have been there at this point, 15 years, right, 15 years. Yeah, I think we're going on 17 years of research. So it was about 15 years and we know the area. We know if these creatures, these big foot, they know our vehicle. Anytime that we took anybody out with us that like we did during the pandemic,

they were in a different vehicle. We didn't stay in the same vehicle. Bob and I would be in one. They would be in their vehicle. And we would have walkies to communicate back and forth. They would have an H2 so they can hear everything. You know, we gave everybody, whatever. their own age too, and we would listen.

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anytime we brought anybody in a different car, their car would get pegged with pebbles during the pandemic. Oh, wow. They would just throw these anytime anybody, it didn't matter who it was. It didn't matter if, you know, Fred came out with us, a guy that I was talking about before. There was another guy that came out with us in their own car. They were getting pinged. We didn't get, you know, the little pebbles thrown at us. They were getting pebbles thrown at them.

So they know our vehicle, you know, it's the norm for them for us to come out. They see us all the time. we bring the same vehicle. They hear our voices. They, you know, they know who, I think anyway. I think they know who we are. So anything that's different, you know, they're going to be, what's this all about?

And sometimes they don't get going for a little while before that happens. But at any rate, during the pandemic, Bob, and I noticed that there was a little more activity around us. And it didn't appear to be more than one. It seemed like it was like a century. So we're like, wow, this is so weird because this usually doesn't happen. Remember I said, you know, we go out there and sometimes there, well, a lot of times there's nothing going on. Sometimes it is so quiet that it's deafening.

And it would be like Bob Talk. Because it's like, it's too quiet. We can't. see anything. It's so black. We, you know, we can't hear anything. It's almost like, what? I got to say something. So, I mean, there's many times when there's nothing going on. But during the pandemic, we noticed that this, what it's seen. And I call it a century, you know, because it's around all the time. It's almost like, well, we didn't know at the time, why this was happening.

But it would throw things at us, you know, and it would walk around and little pebbles, you know, nothing major. And it would walk around. We could hear it. And sometimes it would close. Sometimes we could hear as it got close. We could actually hear the footballs. We could hear it step.

One time, oh, again, this happened several times. One time it really stands out. it stepped. We could hear it step, step, and then like a half step. It was so cool. And it was very, very close to us, almost in that area where, you know, the Louisville hit the tree. Right. So it was in that area.

And it would get close. And we would just kind of sit there wondering, okay, how close is this going to get? One of these times we're going to, we're going to, you know, put on that light and this thing's going to be standing. in front of us or on either side of us. So this was, it was getting close to us. So we were hearing this a lot when we went out there during the, you know, 2020. And nothing was going on. Like I said, the, you couldn't go in the state forest.

People couldn't, you know, they couldn't camp in this rustic area because they shut everything down. So there was no activity. There was no nobody bothering them. And as it was, this area is very remote anyway. So there's not a whole lot going on, you know, in there other than some people maybe going in there and doing a little bit of hiking or, you know, something like that. But nothing major. So as the time went on, we also noticed that it sounded like there was more than one. It wasn't just a century anymore, but there was always one of them really close to us.

So it was like the century was still there, but there was activity going on a little bit further away from us. And I'm talking maybe, again, not like extremely further away from us. I'm talking like 20, 30 yards around us in that kind of circumference. So we noticed that kind of, we noticed that kind of thing happening in that baby Bigfoot. Did I mention the baby Bigfoot yet? Was that, so this is different than the juvenile then? Yes. Yeah, I don't know you haven't.

talked about the baby bigfoot, yeah. The baby big foot. Well, at least we thought it was baby big foot or a very young, a very young juvenile big foot. We went there again, same exact location, did the same routine. And as soon as we got there, we could hear something moving around. And I said to Bob, I think there's more than one. I can hear things in different locations.

You can hear it. You know, you know how that goes. You hear something to your right. You hear something, you know, to your left. Off to the diagonal, maybe directly across from you. You can hear different things. And I said, hmm, it sounds like, you know, there's more than one out there. So we're listening to all of that.

it would get close and it would get farther away. And when it got close, I told Bob, light us up. And this happened, you know, several times. It would get really close to us. And he said, well, it sounded like it was close to us. Anyway, I think it was, it was staying within a distance where it couldn't be seen. And I don't know about you, but and how you feel about this. But there are people who think, you know, there are some.

some people who think that they don't get on all fours. There are other people who've seen them on all fours running. There are other people who've seen them do the spider crawl. There we go. I think if I saw that, I would not go back into the woods. Yeah, me too. It would be. That is creepy.

Yeah. I mean, that is like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm like hardcore big foot, you know, but dang. That's like an Oklahoma, Texas thing a lot of times. I hear those out there. I don't know. I don't know if I could go back out if I saw that.

I think that's too much for my brain. I don't think I could. I had to have nightmares. But, you know, and I go out there all the time. And we go out in the woods, no protection. And I've said this to Bob before, you know, what do we do? And I had a talk one time at one of the libraries. I said, you know, somebody asked me a question, you know, referring to something like that.

I said, you know what? There's nothing you can do. You just curl up into a little ball and kiss your butt goodbye because there's nothing you can do if they decide to go after you. Nothing. There's, you have no defense. So unless you, you know, have an elephant gun or something, I don't know. Sure. But there's nothing, you know, that you can do.

And let me tell you, it gets a little creepy out there. And I don't think I could see. If I saw a spider crawl, I don't, I don't know. It'd be terrible. But it'd be kind of cool, but it would also, like, give you nightmares for. Yeah. Yeah. No.

But at any rate, this, you know, we're hearing this. And I scan the area. I said, Bob, light us up. It starts to get close. light us up because I want to see it. If it's going to get close, I want to see it. Or that close anyway. When we first got there, I scanned from left to right, the area.

I gave him the flashlight. He scans around his area. So while I was scanning left to right, again, this is almost the same distance as the bluff charge. It was about 30 feet away from our car. The only difference was it was 30. 30 feet from the passenger's side, rear quarter panel. So that's where the diagonal area was. But again, very, very close to us.

So there were two trees there and a rock in the middle of the two trees. The rock probably was about maybe three, maybe, I want to say three feet high, possibly a little bit higher than that. but it was in between, like I said, the two trees. And so I'm scanning left to right when we first get there. And I see a little reflection, almost like an eye shine. It was a reflection. And it had rained earlier that day. So it could have been water.

I thought, well, and I didn't tell Bob at that time. I said, well, it could be maybe water on a leaf or something like that that's reflecting. So I didn't think too much of it at the time. And then I scanned back, you know, right to left. And then I shut the flashlight off and we just kind of listened. And like I said, I could hear a couple of things in different directions. So we're just kind of listening. It got a little close and I said, okay, light us up, took the flashlight back up, started scanning again,

scanned over to that same tree and rock area and I didn't see that reflection anymore. I was like, okay, well, maybe, you know, I don't know. Maybe it was a little animal and it was there and then it just left. Maybe it was, you know, I don't know what it was, but it wasn't there. So then again, shut everything off and we're listening again. And we still can hear this every little bit of, you know, span of time, we could hear something moving around. And then it would get close again. And I do the same thing.

It was like every, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes. I'm like, okay, it seemed like light us up. You know, those thing is getting close again. So I took the flashlight out again and I scanned in office. in the distance, further away, it was probably about maybe 15, 20 yards from our vehicle. In the woods, I saw some kind of eye shine out there. And I was like, now there's no reflectors. Okay? There's nothing on the trees out there. We've been there a million times. There's nothing on the trees or anything. So I know that what I'm seeing is something new.

It's not, you know, I've never seen before. And I always, I'm always looking in that direction. So I see something in between the leaves, you know, in the trees. And I'm like, hmm, I wonder what that is. Could be an animal, maybe up in the tree. I don't know. Didn't really give it a whole lot of thought. You know, you always have that kind of,

wonder, you know, but I kind of dismissed it and then shut the lights off again. And I did go back to, I think I went back to the tree again, the rock tree as I'm scanning left to right, and I didn't see anything. So shut the lights off again. And again, and this happened like several times within the space of an hour, maybe a little more than an hour. and again something's getting close turn on the lights and it was it was a it was less of a time frame

so start to scan back left to right and I go back to that tree again and wouldn't you know it that eye shine is there again that reflection or reflective whatever it is was there again

and I said huh and I said Bob there's when we first got, that's when I explained to him. I said, when we first got here, I saw some kind of a reflection, something that was reflective over,

you know, by those trees and that rock. And then it was gone. So I didn't think anything of it. I said, now it's back. And it's in the same exact spot. He goes, well, what do you see? I said, I don't know what I see. It's, I don't know.

it's something. He goes, well, what is it doing? I said, it's just staring at the light. I could just see one eye over this, you know, between those two trees favoring, if I was to look at it, it was favoring the right side of those two trees, so the right tree. And in between, like I said, was that rock. So it's kind of in the eye shine is coming out by the right tree. And I'm like, what the heck is that?

It's in the same exact spot. What are the odds of that happening? If it was an animal, it would have been gone long, 45 minutes ago, you know? I didn't see it. I saw it the first time. Then it was gone. Then now I'm seeing it again. And it's in the exact same spot.

And Bob's trying to look again. And, you know, he's in the driver's seat. It's on my side. Like I said, the rear quarter panel, diagonal to that. He can't even, he can't see it because that whole side of the van is, you know, blocking. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Power performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine.

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And I'm looking, I'm like, what is that? All of a sudden, it goes behind the tree, slowly goes behind the tree. And the color of the eye shine, and it was, it was, you know, round, but it was smaller. It wasn't it wasn't adult size. It was smaller. And it had that, it had that,

uh, that amber color, but it was a little bit lighter. It wasn't as dark as I saw the, the, um, you know, the,

the bluff charge one. It was a little bit lighter and it was smaller. And so probably the size, if I were to gauge it with a coin, maybe a little, like, a quarter size maybe. And so I'm watching it and it's, it goes behind the tree.

Slowly goes behind that right tree. I'm like, oh my gosh, it just disappeared. He goes, what do you mean? I said it's gone. It just went behind the tree. He's like, okay. And then it comes back. I said, it's there again.

It's there because it comes back out again, one eye. It's like it's peaking, you know, on the other side of that tree. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's back. It's there again. Well, what is it doing? I said, it's just staring. It's just like staring at us, staring at the beam. I don't, you know, it's probably like, it's curiosity probably got the best of it.

So it's just kind of watching. Goes back again. I'm like, now it's gone. I'm like, what are you commentator over here? Watch this. Here it is. Now it's gone. Here it is.

So I'm back and forth. And then it comes out in their two eyes this time. And it's just staring at us, you know, staring at the beam. I'm sure it can't see me with this beam in its face, you know, in its eyes. Maybe it could. I don't know. But it definitely knows that we're there. It can hear us by, you know, that's pretty obvious.

and I'm practically hanging out the window watching this thing fascinated by it wouldn't you know okay this was the second I think this was the second time we had brought the

night vision night vision binoculars out with us it was sitting right next to me and I did not get it because I was so, I mean, this is like a rookie mistake, right? I'm like, dang, what was I thinking?

You know, but again, in my defense, it was the second time we only had it out. So I wasn't used to it yet. I wasn't used to having it. But this was more, I was like, I didn't want to take my eyes off this thing for one thing. And I was just, I was fascinated by it. And I'm like, this, I was. wonder if this is a juvenile. It's just, it's small. It wasn't, you know, when it was coming, it was just over that boulder, that little rock that was there between the two trees.

So it wasn't very high. I mean, I don't know how tall it was. Maybe it was sitting down. I don't know. But I'm like, oh my gosh, this is, and then it goes behind the tree again. I'm like, what the heck? And so we, during this time, so we're heading now. to the to the almost five minute mark with this beam of light on this thing that whole entire time i didn't shut the light off i didn't you know i didn't move it it was right there this thing coming back and forth you know behind the tree and stuff and there we didn't know this until after we listened to the h2 you know when we when we got home that there was a pretty good size branch that was broken.

Oh, wow. While we were watching this thing, neither one of us heard it because we were so fixated and so, you know, mesmerized by what was going on that we weren't listening. We didn't hear any of that.

We didn't hear that branch break. Then probably, it was probably a few minutes from that branch break, according to the recording, that there was a significant branch that was broken. I mean, this thing sounded like a little tree. And we heard that.

That we definitely heard. And Bob's like, what the heck? He said, I don't know. So we're thinking that maybe, you know, this juvenile was. place there to stay there while the parents were, you know, foraging whatever they do. Because again, we heard two different areas where things were happening. And were the parents there?

Was this that situation where, you know, this juvenile was there? Because I think I told you this before, deer will do that, right? They'll take their baby, their fawn, and they'll put it in a place where it's secure and covered and camouflaged and it stays there. It doesn't move and the mother will go out foraging and the little fawn will stay there until the mother comes back unless, you know, it's in this dire situation where it's going to be attacked or something. Then I'm sure it would get up. It probably wouldn't live anyway. But it doesn't move. You could walk by it and wouldn't move.

And that's what happened. That's what, you know, the deer do? Do the Bigfoot do that? You know, do they say, okay, junior, you stay right here. Don't move. Don't do anything. You know, we'll be back. I'm paraphrasing.

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So we ended up, he ended up starting the car and as we were leaving, I'm still watching. I'm out the window. Beam is still on this thing. And as we're leaving, it comes out again full, you know, full. And I think it stood up. It wasn't that tall, but it was higher than it was before. And I could see the two little eyes, you know, watching us as we left. Wow.

So that was very cool. If that was the scenario, that was, I can't imagine what else it would have been. You know, if anybody else comes up with something different, I'd love to hear that, you know, that explanation. That's absolutely wild. I mean, the stuff you have going on in that research area is just incredible, Norma. And thank you for sharing your,

what has happened to you guys so far in that area. I mean, it's pretty intense. Yeah, it's been an ongoing. And then when we moved to Connecticut, we still go back there. But we're in a different area now. And we didn't know anything about this area. But we got permission to go on to private land.

That also has a, a protected section of the woods that, you know, you can't hunt on or anything like that. Miles and miles, miles and acres and acres of just forest. And we've had some pretty incredible things happen there as well. And I went into it very doubtful, you know. I didn't know if only because the owner, you know, kind of told us some quirky things that were going on there. And we told them that we were big for researchers. And would you mind if we came out here?

He said, yeah, I don't care, but you're crazy. We're like, well, yeah, tell us something we don't know. But I'll just, one, we've had some incredible things happen here. this is a place where nobody goes to do this kind of research. This is all private. It's private. His land is all private. There are people that go out into like on four wheelers and things like that.

But his area, like I said, is, you know, is private. But you have to access that road if you want to take four wheelers out. And we've done that. Bob and I have gone out there. We've also gone out there and walked. Why? I don't know, but especially after what happened to us. Do you remember that movie?

It's a classic Princess Bride? I mean, yeah, that's a classic 80s movie, totally. Yeah. Right? Andre the Giant was in that movie, right? Oh, yeah. Andre the Giant. Fezic.

He, yes, yes. And you have the Dread Pirate Roberts and you have the other, the Spanish guy and whatever. So yeah. So in one of you got to look this up too. And maybe some of your listeners can, you can look it up specifically this one part. Where Andre the Giant is off.

He's off screen so you can't see him. The pirate guy is running toward this huge holder. Yeah. Just him and he's running toward this huge holder. huge boulder and you're just going to sit in there watching all of a sudden Andre the giant well it's supposed to be him anyway, Fazek. He throws that big rock and hits that boulder. It scares the heck out of you because you're not expecting it when you're watching the movie, right? Especially the first time. Right. But he throws that rock and it hits that boulder and splinters, right?

It just breaks into a million pieces and just misses that pirate. it guys had. We were out there one night. A friend of ours, a friend of ours from New York had come down and she was, she's also into Bigfoot. So, and we were telling her some of the stuff that was going on, you know, here in Connecticut. And she came out with us one night. We're sitting there and we heard, we kind of heard, you know, a few things here and there, but nothing really major. It started off like it was going to be a good night. Because we had been there prior to that and had crazy stuff happen.

But this particular night when she was with us, what we usually do when we go to this guy's property is there's a lot of rocks here. I don't know. There's just tons and tons of rocks and bowl. and things that are in the ground. I mean, there's tons of rocks here. So up in his area, you know, he, because there's so many rocks, he borders, it's part of that road.

You go to this road at dead ends, and then if you go to the right, if you go follow that road and it goes to his house. So we're far enough away from the house where, you know, you're accessing that road to go four-wheeling, you know. but we go in there, we back up, and we back up to this boulder that's there, that's about, I'm five, five and a half. So it's probably about up to my collarbone, you know, up just below my neck. And it's probably about four feet wide.

It's a pretty good size boulder. So what we usually do is we'll back up just in front of that boulder. And again, we're heading out. So we're there one night, this particular night. It starts off really good and then it kind of peters. You know, there's nothing going on. And we're just going to talk and then we're listening. And Bob says, okay, well, how long do you want to,

how long do you guys want to stay out? It's about 3.30 when he says this. And we're like, 3.30 a.m. Bob is like. 3.30 a.m. I get Bob. Bob is like, it's 3.30 a.m. Norma. Oh, come on.

You know, he knows we're staying out until dawn. He knows. Yeah. But if there's nothing going on, you know, and it's still the same. With me, it's like, yeah, but there could be. Right. Yeah, I get it. Five more minutes and something could happen, you know, and I don't want to leave until, you know, done.

So at any rate, he's saying that to us. How long, you know, nothing's going on. How long you guys want to stay? So we said, we'll give it another half an hour. We'll leave up for. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Shake up your routine with vital proteins, collagen peptides.

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I mean, it's just to get up to where his house is. We don't know how he even survived, the cars that or whatever he's driving survives that. I don't even know how my band survives it. But in any rate, it's just, you know, rock and dirt. So you can hear the pieces falling on the ground. And we're like, what? I mean, that was, it's, it was ridiculous. The power behind that.

And this is no, you know, pebble that it threw against that, that boulder. It had to have been a good, had to be a, had to have been a good size rock. It was crazy. So, of course, we're not leaving. Now we're not leaving. We're waiting to see what else is going to happen. And it was right, that boulder was right behind our vehicle. So it very easily could have hit, you know, us.

Wow, yeah. It would have shattered that back window for sure. Oh, yeah. So it meant, it meant to hit that boulder because, like I said, it would have definitely would have hit us if it wanted to. but that was incredibly loud. And we've had, prior to that, we've had, you know, that cousin I was talking to you about, he had come up or come down to go out with us because we were telling him the stuff that was going on.

It sounded like a tree branch went across the top of his car. We've had weird things thrown at us that. this is this is not pebbles like the other place you know on occasion at the other place in that we would get a bigger rock thrown and you can tell you know the size of a rock when it hits the ground that it's not a pebble it just you know that it's a little bit bigger than that but these this at this place they're not throwing little pebbles they're throwing like you know baseball softball size rocks on toward us, you know, that are hitting the ground. And again, they're not, you know, they're not hitting us, but they're certainly coming close. And I said to Bob, man, this is,

you know, this is, uh, some serious, this is some serious business here. Right. Because they have, yeah, they have not, they don't, they don't know us, you know, and that's a little, a nerveing, because it's not like the other place. They know us. They know our vehicle. They know we're not going to bother them or hurt them or do anything. But these guys don't know that. And they are, they're all out.

I mean, they're throwing, I don't even know what. But I don't know how it missed us. And we went, and this was happening, you know, the whole night, we're hearing it. We're, gosh, you can't remember. I think, oh, it's off in the distance we could hear prior to this when the other, my other friend was with us. We could hear vocalizations off.

It was like, I don't even know. It was almost like, I don't know what to listen to because we can hear it over here. We can hear it over there. Something's walking over here. It was crazy. That was the first night we went out. The second night, it was when that Boulder got hit. But, you know, when we were out with our cousins,

same thing. We're like, what the heck is going? You know, these, these, these things are nice. They mean business. I don't know what they're going to do to us, but they mean business. Were you hearing whoops or, or what kind of vocalizations were you hearing? There were like, again, similar to the Ohio, except a little higher pitched and longer. It was like, it's, it wasn't so much.

mournful. Do you know what I mean? The Ohio kind of, it sounds a little more mournful. This, it's not, it's not like that, but it's similar. It's hard to describe. Interesting. And then sometimes just yell, you know, just a vocalized, just a yell or something. I don't know what the back they're doing out there, you know.

But we can, we can hear, you know, what they're doing. And once again, it's all in the, H2, man, you listen to this stuff back when you're like, holy cow. And there are some things that you don't hear. There was one night, oh, the night that we got the bluff charge, that tree, okay, that tree was pushed over off in the distance. And then we had the bluff charge in between when we were listening to the H2, listening to it, you know, back. There was this growl that I don't even know how to explain it. Bob, he has sonic hearing.

I turned the TV up one little click and he's like, you're turning the TV up. He's sleeping. He's got sonic hearing, you know? And he didn't even hear it. I don't know what the deal was, but when we were listening to that recording, in between when the tree went down in the bluff charge,

there was this growl that was really close to us. we heard that on the H-2 and we were listening to it. And we're like, what was that? Wow. We rewound it. We listened to it again. We backed it up again and listened to it again. We're like, we didn't even hear that.

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hear it or we weren't talking or anything like that because once that tree went down, we were on high alert. We were not doing anything. We should have heard that. I don't know why we didn't. I don't know if it was infrasound. I don't know. I can't even explain it. That's really weird. Why we didn't hear it. Yeah.

So, I mean, these noises now coming here again, these noises that we're hearing, you know, we don't, I mean, we've heard similar, but we've also heard these different noises. And then you can hear them walking or going through the woods. There was one night that we heard, I think there was only one there. This, again, this is in Connecticut in that same location. There's only, it sounded like there was just one kind of hanging around, not really doing a whole lot. We get a little rock thrown every now and again. Then a little later on, we heard another one coming toward us. we heard another one walking through the woods coming to that area.

We're like, oh, oh, now it's going to begin, you know. Now the party's going to start. This other one's coming in. I don't know. We don't know what to expect, you know, in this area. It's very, I don't know. What did you say? Yeah, the owner told us Bob had gone there and talked to him.

I don't know. It was something totally different, but he told Bob that a few times on his front door, he would get these slaps, like five quick succession slaps on his door. And it happened. Yeah. And it happened. Now he's got these huge dogs. These dogs, oh, what are they?

Oh, I forget the breed, but they're huge and they're really furry. They're not St. Bernard's Paranese or something. Okay, yep. Huge, huge dogs. They're very friendly, but they stay outside and they're on his porch. these dogs did not, they were in the far end of the porch, kind of huddled there, you know, and they didn't do anything. They didn't bark, nothing.

And so this happened several times and it happened the last time it happened when, well, I don't know if it's the last time, but when Bob talked to him, he said it happened again. And he kind of said, okay, first he thought somebody was messing with him, you know. Then he, because he would go to the door and he couldn't find him, he couldn't see anything. And this was early in the morning. So when he was talking to Bob, he said, you know, when it happened that this last time, he said he got up and went to the door. And again, nothing.

He couldn't find anything. He could see anything. So he, he has heard things. you know, he can't, he, he doesn't know what it is. And he hears, I'm sure he hears all kinds of things out there. He's, he's on a lake. With acres and acres of forest, this, you know, it borders the road, it borders Rhode Island. So it's, again, acres and acres on that side, you know, acres and acres on the side of Connecticut.

it just nothing out there. Nothing. Bob and I, like I said, we took our truck, our four-wheel drive truck out there as far as we could go because the road is really bad. And then we walked another mile into there. And there's nothing out there. Talk about being vulnerable. We know what's out here.

And we aren't going out here with nothing but, you know, harsh language because there's nothing and it's going to protect us if anything were to come out. So there is nothing out there. So what could this be? And again, you know, with us going out there, we have no clue what these things are capable of or how they're going to react each time that we go there, especially since we've had so many things, you know, thrown at us that aren't little. you know, near misses kind of thing.

So I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to expect we've been doing this probably a year now. So it's going to be interesting to go out. We haven't been able to go out as much as we've wanted to because the weather has been horrible. We can't take the H-2s out. in the rain. We can't take them out if it's windy because you're going to hear wind.

You want to be able to hear everything that's around you. You don't want to be surprised. So we can't go out and not be able to hear. And yes, the H2 will pick up things that in between the sounds, but not enough. You got that wind blowing on that, you know, microphone. it's hard to hear. If it's rained and you go out after the rain, you're hearing those raindrops

are falling off the tree. You know, if the wind blows a little bit. You just, we don't want to be surprised. We want to be able to hear everything. Not to mention you can't, you know, you don't want your equipment out and, you know, rain. So we've gone out a couple of times this winter. But again,

You know, you can't, it's so weather dependent. Unless you're, even with your naked ear going out there, if you have, you know, tree branches knocking against each other, squeaking against each other. You can't hear what's around you. You just don't want to. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Powered performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combinations.

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Oh, man. Wild. So it's supposed to be, yeah, it's supposed to be a good night. We've been planning this for probably a month. And we have to keep, you know, not tomorrow night. I'm sorry, Friday night. Right. We're going out.

we had to keep, we had to keep canceling because somebody else is coming out with us and he's never been out before. Oh, wow. And, you know, we can't, we, you know, you can't go out of the training. You can't go out, all those things that I, you know, the weather related stuff. So we've had to cancel. Friday's supposed to be good. So we're going out for sure.

And we haven't been there in a while. So I'm curious to see what's going to happen. It'll be interesting. Yeah, it'll be interesting to hear what happens. You definitely let me know if anything cool happens when you go out Friday night. I will. I definitely will. This has been just a fantastic chat about Worcester County and Massachusetts

and somewhere on the east border of, of Connecticut. I mean, you guys are doing some cool stuff and thank you for sharing what you've experienced

over the years. You and Bob. Absolutely. Thank you for having us on. It's been really fun. I can, you know, I can talk about Bigfoot

for hours. Before you go, is there any way that people can keep up to date with what you're doing with Bigfoot? Or are, are you and Bob just kind of in the shadows doing your thing?

If someone pulls you into a podcast, then that's how we get to hear about it. Basically. Okay. Yeah, we don't, I don't know. We don't advertise. We don't, you know, do YouTube. We kind of just keep to ourselves.

But I do have, I do have. have an email if they do want to get in touch with me. Okay. Anybody wants to ask a question or, you know, I'm not going to give out the locations simply because the way that we feel about it is we don't want, not everybody is going to be careful, I guess, maybe is the word. I don't want anything to happen to them. I don't want the area to get saturated so that they lose their, you know, the place that they live.

Because this area, and I'm assuming that the Connecticut area is the same, but I know that mass area, we have activity all year around. So, you know, it's probably their base home area and I don't want them to be pushed out. out, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. We take people there that we trust to not, you know, have it. It's almost like, you know, you don't want anybody to go in there and ruining it for them, for the Bigfoot that are there. This new group that moved in, again, the last time we were there, they were still there.

we haven't been there in a while, so I'm curious to see if they are still there, but I certainly don't want to push them out, and I don't want them to be pushed out from that area. They're happy there. I don't want anything to happen to them. So that's one of the reasons why, you know, we don't advertise or, I mean, everybody, you know, obviously you can incognito or, you know,

thereabouts or whatever, it's in this area. Right. But I don't know. It's just we, we're very protective of them and we don't want anything, you know, to happen to them. Now the Connecticut ones, that's a whole different. They're kind of different. They're kind of different down there. It's, yeah, it's no whole bar there. I don't know. It would be interesting to see. With them, we don't know what to expect. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but if, you know, we're planning on, again, picking up. as soon as we can get out there. And if anything happens, I will let you know. My email, we're also a metal detectorist, so we've been doing that for 30-some-odd years.

So the email is coin hunters2 at yahoo.com. So it too is spelled out, TWO. Perfect. And I'll have that in the show notes as well, definitely. Yeah, they can contact, you know, me at any time. I'm not saying, you know how that goes. I don't check my email very often. I mean, I'll check it, but we've gone back and forth with the whole email thing.

But I will respond if they do, you know, send me an email. Perfect. And real quick, before we go, me talking to the listener specifically, for all you New England people that are listening to this episode, if you have Bigfoot things that have happened to you in Massachusetts specifically Western Mass or Southern New Hampshire, Connecticut, you guys don't talk a lot.

So I would love to talk to you about it. Please contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com or share it in the comments. Norma, it's been a great time chatting with you. Can I just interject? Yes, please. Can I just interject one thing? If any, again, along the same lines

is what you're saying. If anyone want, it is concerned about an area or if they want an area of theirs, you know, checked out, they can also get a hold of us

and we will do our best to, you know, see what's going on there. Fantastic. Because we've done that before too. Yeah. And again, they can contact me through the email.

Well, fantastic. We've been doing this a long time, so we're used to it. There you go. maybe too long. Well, thank you so much for hanging out tonight, Norma, and say thank you to Bob as well. Yes, thank you so much too. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered

Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years, and it's time that you get this off your chest, and then you can get some well-deserved rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping.

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