Bigfoot Society - "Sasquatch Fought a Bear and I Found the Body” | Oregon Bigfoot Encounters

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

In this episode, we talk to William “Bill” Morris who is based out of SW Oregon.Bill shares about his many encounters that started at an early age and his journey from from being an experiencer to being a researcher.Special notes: This episode has a really special audio feedback issue that I wasn’t aware of during recording. Apologies for that.There are many conversations in this episode regarding what is considered the “woo” side of Bigfoot. In fact, this is probably the most woo episode of Bigfoot Society ever recorded, so heads up on that.Personally I believe Bigfoot is an undiscovered great ape but I feel that both sides can still have open discussions, especially on Bigfoot Society.Resources: Contact Bill on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mustangerbillTo hear my interviews with Marc Myrsell, check out these episodes:https://youtu.be/tb4gguGLwvMhttps://youtu.be/MEip1IFvAy0https://youtu.be/Un_EHn6F-44Other people mentioned: https://squatchamerica.comWilliam Morris on Pork n’ Beans - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fZ7OCdGwisBook mentioned: Sasquatch, Face to Face by Thom Cantrall - https://amzn.to/46pT8CB (affiliate link)WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzEDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast?Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_link Tune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!--Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.-- MY GEARMy Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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One of the questions I had in my mind is how they can hide in plain sight. So he's showing me exactly how he doesn't. And by this time, I still, I've rid my eyes. three different times and looked at this I'm going after the third time I go oh you're here that's you I was like cool um his hair has gone from just the blackest black you ever saw to silver and what's strange about it is it is silver like three quarters of the way down and then the last little quarter is black still so you get to kind of a salt and pepper kind of effect but he's He sat there, he kind of down on his haunches like an eight sits, you know, just kind of like on their heels.

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I have a conversation with Mr. William Morris from the southwest corner of Oregon. Bill describes himself as a colleague of Mr. Tom Cantrell and a individual on the woo side. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode, which is currently the longest ever recorded for Bigfoot Society. as Bill recounts his multiple encounters that have happened to him over the years in the southwest corner of Oregon. Please take a minute to like, subscribe, and share this episode with your friends

as it does help our podcast to continue to grow and it costs you nothing. And enjoy this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking with Mr. Bill Morris from out in Douglas County, Oregon today. How's it going? going, Bill.

Going good. Actually, I'm in Jackson County now. All right. All my sightings happen in Douglas County, though. I'm going to start over, but that's perfect for the Patreon. They're going to be like, you awesome, dude. Okay. This always happens.

All right. Three, two, one. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Bill Morris today. He's out there in Oregon, and he's had some crazy. encounters with Bigfoot over the year, but how's it going today, Bill? Going great. Hotter and a firecracker outside, but not too bad inside.

I hear you. I'm there with you a little bit out here in Iowa, and we're a little bit humid, but I think you got us beat out here from what it, from what you said before the show started. But so, Bill, you sent, you know, let's get, we'll start to get into it. You've sent me an email, and there's a lot that you've experienced over the years. And it's very, very interesting, the things that are going on in Oregon for you. But I would love to start first. Let's hear a little bit of your backstory.

What is it that first got you interested in the Bigfoot phenomenon to begin with? Well, as far as interest, I actually wasn't interested to begin with. I didn't really believe in the whole existence of the creature. I've heard my uncle talk about it. He was a logger here in the Roseburg area in Douglas County. But I've read, I think it was on the track of Bigfoot. I think that was a Peter Byrne book. When I was a kid, and I took it all with a grain of salt.

And even after my first encounter, because my first encounter, because my mind actually turned into something different because I couldn't hardly rationalize what I actually saw. But when I had my second encounter, which was face-to-face, I could reach out and touch it. That's how close we were. That kind of changed things. And I just actually tried to bury it for most of my life,

all the sightings that I'd had. And then I started looking. Once I was able to get it off my chest, it started with a big foot and bruise. over and Ben, where I met King Gerhard, Clint Berrickman, Mark Mercell, you know, all the, all the big names. Actually, Mark was the first one other than my mother that I ever talked to about my signing. Wow.

What year was that, Bill? Oh, gosh. I think it was 2018, 2019. That is a really, that is a really, really cool that one of the first people that you talked to was Mark Mercelle. What a nice guy. I've met him a few times. Such a good guy.

He's a fabulous guy. Such a big. I had no idea who he was. We're standing out of the curb. And I said, well, yeah, I had this face-to-face. And that was the one I focused on because that's the one that terrified me the most. And I told Mark my story. And just by telling a stranger, because I had no clue who Mark Mercell was.

I didn't know anything about Eight Canyon or any of the stuff going. on there. And so we talked about that a little bit. And it was liberating. It didn't off my shoulders. A secret that I kept inside me for 38 years. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. And that was that was hard. Even my mother and I, she experienced two of my sightings with me. And, or at least the experience, one experience, one sighting. We never really talked about it much. I just buried it. Even my soulmate who passed away, 20, six and a half, almost 27 years ago, I don't think I ever told her. Wow.

And that's one of my, just been a really deep secret. Bill, talk for a little bit about what it's like, how does it affect you when you've been holding on to something like that for so long and you're finally able to get it out there in the open? What is that due to as a person? Why is it important for listeners to do that too? Oh, I'm getting chills right now, actually, even thinking of it. about it. It was just absolutely

liberating. It was just so much of a thing off my shoulders. You know, because it was so traumatizing, especially my second encounter when I was face to face. You know, I had no ideal. My complete attitude towards the creatures

is completely different now. It's 180 degrees. I have no fear of them. And that's probably why I'm able to spend time with them. And but yeah, just being able to talk about it. The more I talked about it, and that's of the reason, you know, it's taking you and I a year kind of to get to this point is because I'm still was in that process of being able to talk about it because, you know, it brings back

some of the trauma and it's just holding that in for so long. It's just nobody needs to hold that in. You need to find somebody to talk to. And that was the reason I went over there was to get this off my mind. And I never planned on being a researcher. And that all just kind of happened because I was actually calling BS on somebody and their technique and it actually worked the first time out. Really? Yeah, which was signing number five, which kind of blew my mind. And now he and I are just the best of friends. As a matter of fact, I just spent a couple days with him up in Indian McLaugh, Washington.

And that would be Mr. Tom Cantrell. Gotcha. And actually, the first day I was out with Tom, I found Prince. Oh, wow. Can you tell me a little bit about that? We had breakfast at a great little restaurant called Charlie's that they had there at Dana Club. Best breakfast and lunches. And he's like, well, you want to go for a ride? Let's do it.

So we headed up, I don't know, I'm sure you know who Barb and Gabby was. Barb has a site at their Barb shoot. And we went up to where her campsite was. As a matter of fact, she had a camp out there just a couple days after we'd been there. and Tom was just showing me around and he says well you know he pulled up there's a little spur road just off above the campsite he says go tell me what you see so I walk out there and I'm kind of looking around I look over to my right and I see this nice arch tree that goes over the creek but off on the left side as I was facing it you could see that it was weaved in the whole archway and to hold the archway over this little creek I'm like oh that's pretty cool well I got cooler stuff in my area. But that's okay. And I look to my left and I see this freshly snapped tree.

It was snapped about four feet up. And this thing was probably, I would say, 11 inches in diameter. Just a typical snap that they do. It almost looks like they're cut, but they're not. And I'm looking at that and I'm looking around. I look up and I see just this big archway through the woods of a, what, Bobo would call a Sasquatch highway. And I'm going, wow, cool spot.

Nice. And I looked down and I find three prints. And they were all about 10 inches by about three and a half. So I figured they're probably juvenile. And I was not expecting to find that. And guess where my hydrocal is at home? Because I was on vacation. I wasn't expecting to go squashing.

I'm like, Tom, I found three plants here. Check out this picture. You see toes? He's like, oh, yeah. That's wild. And so was it how far away were the, you know, being a juvenile print, how far were the prints away from each other and just kind of curious about that? Well, this one, it wasn't really walking. It was kind of staggered right there.

So there's there's a big ravine that goes down and a little waterway that comes down. So it was kind of staggered. I think it was kind of looking for a spot to step down in the ravine and continue on to the other side. And so there were only, I would say one was probably about 20 inches from the other. Then the other one was fairly close. It looked like it stood there and was just getting ready to step off over the side. Interesting. It always happens on vacation.

I'm almost scared to go on vacation next. Who knows what's going to happen? My son and I in April, he was coming out up from California for a wedding and I took him out to my area. And we found a trackway. Wow. Probably 400 plus prints, at least, of my four clan members of the one that I study. And I left the lens cap on the camera when I was filming the trackway, and we were running out of time because we had a dinner to do. It's always the last-minute thing that just blows everything.

You know, it's like, I said, I blew the whole trackway. Are you kidding me? You know, it's 72 degrees. They're melting down, you know, and it was as far as the eye could see. it was just oh i just kicked myself all day so the next morning we went up and uh refilmed it before we headed up to eugene for a wedding at the well hall one of his best friends though each time though i was we were pressed for time so i couldn't really get the documentation and and it just killed me because to blow that one was just i just keep kicking myself over it

is something it's a hard lesson to learn for sure like uh i've i haven't done anything like that but we did not have an audio that's just me yeah i mean i've had stuff happen and we didn't have the audio recorder going and next time that'll never happen again so i kind of get it but a trackway is kind of a different animal but bill tell take me back to the time when you first experienced something related to Bigfoot and what was that what was that first encountered like what point in your life did that happen well for what i know now i actually had a lot of different signs here and there throughout my life because i've spent i spend so much time in the woods you know uh i think i sometimes spend more time in the woods than i do in society it's just my

place to get my zen. Well, I was 16 years old and with my first visual encounter. And I had a hard time getting people to go hunting, you know, they would say, oh, yeah, I'll be there. I'll see it like 3.30 in the morning. And there comes 3.30. There comes 430, 530. I finally got tired of it.

And it's like, you know what? If it's going to happen, I just got to do it for myself. So I lived on a ranch called the S-Diamid Ranch in Myrtle Creek. It's a sheep ranch, that working sheep. French. At the time, it was owned by Mike and Levina Arrowwood. And they were good family friends. Mike was an Air Force pilot. He also owned the airport in Tri-City, Oregon, which is an extension of Myrtle Creek. And he was teaching me to fly at the time. But right behind the trailer where we lived, we were up on a little rise above the roadway. And they had just kind of cut the bank back and level things out to

put this mobile home in there. And so just off the cut bank, I would climb up that and just go up over the hill because I had permission to hunt. And there's a little gate there, but they never, never completed a roadway through there. So I go through the gate onto the other side of the property. It's, oh, what was it? This is over 500 acres, the property.

So it's basically three quarters of a square mile. So plenty of room to hunt on. And I got through the gate, which is in the wooded area. directly behind my place and it's only maybe, I would say, 80 yards from the cut bank to where I could hit this little grassy road. The road is installed on the other side, but it was never really completed. It just stopped right there at the gate. And so I come through the gate. I get about, I would say, maybe 20 yards down from the gate, which is clear. I could see it from, if you were on the other side, you could see me at the top. And I saw some movement to my left.

and I looked at it. And I'm carrying an old lever action, Winchester, 44, octagon barrel, just a beautiful piece of equipment. And I'm looking at this thing. I'm going, what the heck am I seen? It kind of looked like a rabbit. And that's how my mind actually rationalized what I saw. A giant rabbit. King Gerhard will tell you this.

I said, Kim, you ever seen anybody see anything about a giant rabbit? Giant rabbit? Because it took years, actually. Only that memory just kind of unlocked for me about a year and a half ago. Because I had buried it so deeply, you know, that I didn't want to, I didn't want to rationalize what I actually saw was a Sasquatch. But it had his back legs tucked behind it, just like a rabbit sitting at rest. And with his arms down, it tucked back in. And he was just down, hunkered down, trying to be invisible. But if it hadn't been for that little movement, made. I would have never seen him. I would have never noticed him because when we're out hunting, we're looking for the ears, the deer. They always do this because the bugs. They can't help themselves. That's their dead giveaway. So it's real easy to find a deer that's laying down or

kind of bedded down. You just look for that ear movement. But I stared at this thing. It was tricolored, which, you know, I've had rabbits that were actually colored like this. So that's why my mind went to that. And it was black, dark brown, and red and the brown and reddish was kind of splotches through throughout its coat and i started it for probably about two minutes and then it took a dive into the woods and i never heard a sound i never heard it land i never heard it lead the exit the area or anything it was just vanished and but what i remember is when it took that dive it did like a superman dive i saw hands extended out in front of them like rabbit stone half hands.

So, you know, my brain just completely just tucked out of way. I never even told my mom that story. You know, because I just didn't know what I saw. I just couldn't figure out, and my brain was going, nah, you know, it was a rabbit. It was giant.

No giant rabbitstone exists. Well, this one did. So, you know, that's where that one stood. And that was, I just kind of stood there and kind of looked and kind of looked around. I walked over to where dove into and I never saw another sign of this thing. Never heard another sound. So, and that was the end of that one.

So I just kind of forgot about that one and went on with life. I have at least one question. That is so fascinating. And I can't, I'm trying to put myself in my frame of mind of when I was 16, how I was thinking. I can't do it. I was very open-minded. I was very open-minded, you know, and I still am. And I think that's maybe why they chose me to begin with.

Because I think they choose you. You don't just, things don't happen by happenstance. I think they feel that you're open-minded and that maybe, hey, maybe we'll take a chance on this human. You know, some people have talked to me saying that if you're good, listeners be along for the ride. Here we go. Here we go, guys. It's going to be fun.

Sometimes when you are going to look for them, you may want to have a certain positive intention in your mind to make it clear to them that everything's okay and things of that. things of that nature so that there's not a negative intention when you're going out to their area because supposedly they can know before you even get there. I think they can read your mind like an open book. They can read you very clear. And that's the experiences I'm having now is that you can't hide anything from them. And if you're out there with any kind of ill intentions, you'll never see one.

banging on trees, call blasting, that just makes me laugh. First of all, you don't know what you're broadcasting when you're call blasting some other Sasquatches call. They could be saying, get over here, I'm going to whoop your booty. You know, you just don't know. I don't want nothing to do with that. I don't want some raging Sasquatch coming at me ready to kill me. You know, because if they wanted to, it would not be a problem.

It's the size of them that's really scary. And most people's encounters, they're terrified because, you know, we grew up in a society where there's monsters. You know, I grew up with, you know, all these. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Powered performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combination with resistance exercise. It also supports healthy hair, skin, and nails.

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I loved all types of horror movies. I used to watch stuff. I couldn't wait to get home, so I could. could watch a horror show of some sort. But, you know, we have that in our mind, and they just look scary, but they're actually quite gentle, I found out. And I had to change my mindset because I was actually listening to a podcast one day, and somebody made the statement was, they never tried to hurt me.

And that stuck in my mind, just solid. And I got to thinking about that. And I dwelled on that for months. And, well, you know what? even when I was face to face, he was never aggressive, one way, in any way, shape, or form. And every encounter I had was not aggressive. Matter of fact, my fourth encounter, I felt it was telling me goodbye for now because it was leaving. And I didn't have another encounter for, you know, over 30 years.

So because I wasn't ready. I think they were actually waiting until I was ready. That's very interesting. I think there's something to be said of that, you know, just in the fact that when we're going through life, there's certain time periods in our lives when we might be focused on certain things and definitely not be being able to see the weird stuff that's happening in life. But there's some other points where you get to be, you're taking things a little bit more easy, you're not rushing, you're noticing things in nature, you're going out in nature. to begin with. Of nature. And then you start to see.

And most of your sightings, you said in your email, happen around a certain area. Now, I'll leave it up to you if I don't know if what you shared in that email was public, but is that anything that you can share for context-wise? Oh, absolutely. I can get right into the second siting. All right. Cool. They all happen.

Well, I lived in my first. Myrtle Creek, I said I was on the S-Dymon Ranch, which was three and a half miles from town. The ranch was. And where they started the mileage markers at an area called the Y. It's where a roadway south Myrtle, you come down through town, pass the schools, and go straight on out. That becomes South Myrtle. And you take a left, and that brings on to North Myrtle. And I think the mile marker starts there rather than any place else.

And there was a market there called the Super Y market. So that's pretty much where the Y came from, I would imagine. I don't know the full story on it. It doesn't exist any longer. So that's the unfortunate part. I knew the owners of it very well, grew up with them, and I went to all the schools there. So we'll just say this was in either the last week of May or the first week of June, which is my signing number two.

My mom and I had gotten in a bit of an argument. I was a teenager. I was 17. I had just turned 17 at March. And this was after my first sighting when I was 16. And this was 1981. And so to cool off, I walked to town. I walked everywhere.

I had 14 cars. I owned 14 cars at that point in time. I used to buy, sell, fix them up, sell them. You know, it helped the family out with money. And plus it was all at the time was. under the table money, so it didn't affect anything my mom had going on. And so I walked to town. I ended up at some old apartments we used to living called Clearwater Manor. They're on Johnson Street, and I was visiting some friends there. And actually it was actually approached by a skunk that

evening out there, and I was actually trying to coax it in to pet it. That's how I am with nature. I mean, I've petted wild deer, elk in the field because I understand the prey and the mentality of them, you know, and how they act and how they interact, especially when I was, I've trained dogs, horses, sheep, llamas, cows. I've done all kinds of interesting things. People have called me, hey, Bill, you want to teach my animals to do this? Let me get back to you. Yeah, I'll do it. Let me give it a try. What to heck?

It's a new experience. But anyways, as we were talking to, I was talking to friends there, which the creek runs right behind the place, North Myrtle Creek does. Actually, I think it's just Myrtle Creek because I think by then both creeks have already come together at a different point. And it's about 11 o'clock at night. They're all ready to go to bed. So I'm like, okay, well, you know, I'm going to head for them. I'm all calm now. You know, you know, it's amazing what a walk does for you.

right but there's a little bridge right there the cross of the creek and I crossed that crossed over that bridge and the first strangeness started then I heard like something was in the water walking underneath the bridge you know you get as you're moving your legs through you get that air the air pocket behind your legs and it gives a cavitation sound and I heard that I'm like boy that's very strange who the heck would be in the creek in the middle of the night and I smelled something I've never smelled before it was like a combination And I've heard other people describe it the exact same way, which was like wet dog, a skunk smell, but not quite a skunk.

You know, it was different than a skunk, but in that same type of category. And rotted meat or rotted flesh of some sort, just a combination of all of one. And I was like, boy, you know, somebody needs to take out the garbage because this stuff was pretty bad. So I'm like, oh, I'm just kind of shrugged it off. off and kept walking. I have to go down the street, angle left, and come back up, and that's where you hit the super wide. But you have to cross the creek on another bridge. And the same sound when I crossed that spot and the same smell. And there's a little trail that ran up behind the market, which was kind of a shortcut, comes behind the store, then I can get across the

parking lot saves me from, because when you get up to why, there's really no place to walk. you know i mean you end up getting run over if you're not careful so i took the short cut up and over and just started to hit it for home and uh i was calm now a better frame of mine so i'm walking i get up just past the one mile post and the worst part of this was is my last wife that i was married to you could where we lived you could look right at the one mile post so that brought a lot of it back but i got over i was fine with it by that point and i just passed that and i just passed that I heard four and not only just heard them, but felt them. There's a three-foot difference between where the road was and where this was walking.

And I heard four foot steps, and I heard them and felt them. They were very loud and very powerful steps. I thought, oh, maybe somebody's horse or cow got loose. And on the fourth step, I looked to my right, and it was right there. I could reach out and touch it without even straightening my arm all the way as far as full extension goes. And all I can see is, and this is what I tell people, their eyes are self-illuminating. Matter of fact, we just brought Todd Nice onto our side because somebody else demonstrated to him that in the dark, first of all, they call Sasquatches out every day.

They called them out every day to him for five days to prove it to it. blew his mind. Then the eye glow. They call it, everybody calls it an eye shine, but when there's no light around, it's completely dark, and they're illuminated in the dark,

that would make them self-illuminating. And this Sasquatch eyes were green, and the biggest thing that about stopped my heart, and it hit me like, I understood the phrase, a bolt of fear, because it was instant, I could not move.

But it was, you know, the eyes were, you know, almost twice as white as mine. And I'm like, what is this thing? And they were glowing green. And it was a really cool color of green, too, by the way. And I just stood there and stared. I could not move.

I do remember running through my head, the phrase, feet don't fail me now. And then I was little upset at my feet because they did not work. Nothing worked. I could not move. We stared at each other face to face. I could see, you know, everybody says, you know, got the conical. head, you know, and this one's not quite as conical. It had a little bit of rise to the top of the head, but not like, you know, some are.

And I could just see the outline. It was very dark. I can see the shoulders, which really terrified me. This thing was four feet wide. And just thick and burly. Your first sip should do more than simply start today. Elevate your scoop with vital proteins, collagen peptides advanced, featuring collagen plus hyaluronic acid and vitamin C.

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That was a Sasquatch. and there was no ifs, ands or butts about it, they're not supposed to exist. So I'm focused on that spot where it was. I start walking backwards back towards town and then jogging backwards, then turn, and I probably did that mile. I swear it was in 30 seconds. It was fast. I never run so fast in my life.

And I got up to the store there, the Super Y, and put myself dead center. It kind of had a lower brick wall around the thing. and I just felt a little safer there, and I was just cowering like a scared little child. And there was a pay phone right there. And I didn't have any change, but we used to click on the receiver part, you know, and that was kind of a signal at home.

You know, if you didn't have any money, you know, and you got that call, but there was nothing there. And you heard the clicks, you know, that something's going on. Well, there was only two pay phones in town. One was downtown and one was right there. So it was real easy to find me. my mom come flying into town turn around and I jumped in the car and said drive now go and she looked at me and she's like if anybody asked what I look like when this happened she said bill was white and she said bill's not white you know because I'm I had my dad was Native American so I'm all in the complexed skin and I was just white as a sheet and when we got close to that point I'm just telling her the word of the signing was I said floren it she says well

You tell me what's going on? I said, I just saw Bigfoot. I said, I was so terrified because it was just out of the blue unexpected. Of course, they're always unexpected. It's not a planned event. And, oh, it just, it took me days to just calm myself after that. Because it was just, it just blew my mind. Absolutely blew my mind.

I didn't believe in them, even after deciding I had before. But that was a giant rabbit, remember. I didn't associate it. I still didn't associate it as being a Sasquatch. All these years until about a year and a half ago is when that memory finally unlocked the rest of the way. And I went, whoa, wait a minute. This had been going on before that siding. But yeah, it was something else, I'll tell you.

So I was going to ask you, so your first sighting was age 16. Then you had a year and a half until this. No, no. it was only months. Oh, sorry. Yeah, it started in October, 1981, which was the hunting season. So I knew that event,

and that's what I was hunting solo. And then the next one was May of the next year. So it was only like seven or eight months later, or nine months, however many months it was. The second one hits you. And did you experience anything like infrasound when you were that close to that creature the second time?

I mean, like... The only thing I could say is I couldn't move, No matter what I tried to do, I could not move. I was absolutely frozen in place. And like I said, I told my feet, feet don't fail me now. I'm like, Dad, I hear you. Where can you? Listen.

I wanted them to work so bad. But they wouldn't. I couldn't do anything. I could not move an inch. I was just frozen. I want to point out, so I do have a few younger listeners. And you want to point out that the thing that you want to point out, the thing that you said about the payphone.

So you got to remember, guys. Yeah, they don't know what pay phones are. In the early 80s, we didn't have cell phones on us all the time. And you had this, like, telephone in the middle of town on a pole and you had to use quarters to make, or dimes or whatever, to make a phone call. And it was rotary of those. It was rotary. It was rotary, too. It was that old.

But you, like, clicking it a few times and that was your code to your mom, that's pretty cool. That's some of stranger things stuff if you ever seen that show. Yeah, because they could, they could hear that click in the background. So it was like, oh, ding, ding, ding. Okay, I'm needed. So what was cool is there was only two in town. So it was pretty easy to find. So smart. You mentioned another thing that it kind of set off a bell in my head. You mentioned your, your father was Native American. Do you think having that relation plays into this, at all or you know you said how you're really connected to nature connected to animals have you ever thought of that before i think it's more of the open-mindedness and me being connected to nature

and being very observant when i'm out there you know because i'm i'm kind of a and i can tell you at the time when i had my face-to-face with him i was bodybuilding i was a big dude i'm still a big dude, you know, I'm not, I'm 59 years old and, you know, I'm not a little guy. I'm six foot tall. At the time when I had this siding, I had a 54-inch chest, a 32-inch waist, 21-inch arms, 22-inch neck. I was the same dimensions as Arnold Schwarzenegger. I just wasn't cut as well as he was, you know, and this thing, and what I told him when I was on for convenience. I said, it made me feel like Billy Barty. I know these kids don't know who Billy Barty is. He was a dwarf. God, I think Billy was only like three foot nine, somewhere

around there. He's a very small man. And that's what this thing made me feel like when I was standing next to it. It was like the Empire State Building versus an apartment building. You know, it's it was quite a size difference. Made me feel very, very small and very, insignificant. But I think mostly it's probably my open-mindedness and my connection to nature. Because I've always been connected to nature, even though you look at me, oh, he's manly man, he's a tough guy. Well, yeah, but you don't know this side of me. And it's not a side that I ever really let people know about. Only a few people know that, you know, I'm that connected. I get through, I'm listening for the birds. I listen to the wind, you know. I appreciate the

beauty of nature. I love to take pictures of flowers, rainbows, all that stuff. You know, it's something that you would look at me and go, well, that's pretty unexpected. I mean, you can look through my pictures on Facebook and go, this guy's kind of interesting. So then at that point in your life, you've had the second encounter. What are your thoughts towards this creature you've been experiencing? Are you fully on board with, okay, Saskwark? Watch is real, although you did say it was later in life when you totally realize all this stuff.

No, as far as being real, the face-to-face, that absolutely solidified it. All right. That this is not a mythical creature. It's real. It's flesh. It's blood. It breeze. And it's big.

Absolutely colossal in size. You know, it's just, then my fourth or third sighting, for me, I size. I cited it by my mother didn't. And I think she experienced the infrasound. And believe it or not, just a few months ago, this is the first time she told me that she could not move the entire night. Oh, wow. That she was paralyzed. And what happened was I felt it watching.

And so did she. We were different ends of the trailer. So we're 50 feet apart. She had the master bedroom all the way the other side. I actually took a living room. It's actually a family room. It was huge. I had piano in there because I was in a band and everything.

We used to have them come over and practice. Everybody in the valley loved it because the sound would echo up the valley there. When we get compliments the next day, he goes, you guys sounded great last night. He was like, oh, you heard that? Oh, yeah, it echoes all the way up to the valley. Oh, that's cool. But felt that, had that feeling.

And this was the first time I actually had that feeling where the hair stand up on the back of your neck and you just feel like something's just watching you. You know, something unseen is watching you. So I went to my back window which faces the bank, the cut bank behind from the area where I had my first sighting. And I actually looked out the window. And the first tree there, it was squatted down next to the first tree. I saw the glowing eyes.

And I closed the curtains, crawled in bed, jumped in, I was in the fetal position the entire night. And it stayed there the entire night. night. And wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Shake up your routine with vital proteins collagen peptides. With 20 grams

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behind my window, which was only 30 feet away. The sighting, the first setting I had, distance wise from it, I was only about 30 to 35 feet away. You know, then the siding number two, I was two feet away. So this setting, I was about 30, 35 feet away. I would say 30. It was closer to 30. And so as soon as I heard her get up, I ran into the kitchen. I'm like trying to be cool.

Do you sleep good? She said, I didn't sleep and wink. Okay, I'm not the only one. What's up? She's, I just felt something just staring at us all night long. I just couldn't sleep. And I couldn't move. It's what she told me just recently.

So there comes the infrasound, you know, being what they call Zapt or whatever you want to call it. But she said she was absolutely paralyzed the entire night. And as soon as it went away, that's when she got up and headed for the kitchen. You know, because she didn't have any understanding of it. Then I told her what went on that night. I said, I looked out the window. I saw him back there. I saw those glowing eyes.

And I just freaked out. climbed in bed and just curled up and don't eat us, don't kill us. You know, I mean, I was, I was, I had no idea, you know, that it was a gentle being, you know, it just looks scary. And, but I was terrified. You know, I just, and this was only about a week and a half after the face-to-face. So that was still fresh in mind, you know. And, but it's still, again, it never tried to hurt us, never tried to do anything.

It may have even thrown things. It's the thing. I just don't remember, you know, as far as that part goes, because I was just curled up in bed like a little baby open for my mommy. This big old guy, you know, like Schwarzenegger, acting like a one-year-old infant. I almost wonder, you said it happened so close to the last one. Yeah, I would have to say maybe 30 yards. Or the time frame-wise.

Do you think it maybe followed you home or was tracking you? It knew right where I lived. As a matter of fact, I think it has something, the way I'm looking at things now with the research and stuff I've been doing, the feeling I have is when one connects with you, you're on their network and that you, they all know who you are. I don't know if it's your vibration or, you know, what it has to do with you, but I think when one knows. you and connects with you, they all know you. And that's what I'm kind of learning because I'm getting contact pretty much wherever I go. And I'm testing this out here and there. I was up with Thomas Potter at his research site, which is up close to Crater Lake here

just about six or eight weeks ago. And they were actually coming into camp there. You know, we had one approach us. We were chatting at campfire and heard things. coming at us, walking towards us, and it's absolutely sounded bipedal. And he still has a modicum of fear. Until you lose that fear, you're not going to be able to have a visual sighting with them. You know, I believe that is part of it, is your fear. They want to make sure, they know you're open-minded, but it's that little bit of fear, even if you have a small amount of it, they will

just kind of stay what they call, I guess, cloaked, or they're going to just stay just out of your view. And I think the reason they do, and it's not a way. wood knock. We all call it wood knocks. It sounds like a wood knock, but it's actually, and it's been witnessed. It's done with their mouth. It's a pop. Their throat kind of swells up and they get just powerful pop. And I mean, it's very powerful and very loud. And it does sound like somebody's whacking on a tree, but they're doing a pop. Do you know someone who has actually witnessed that? I've been told about it. And other people that have actually seen somebody that has witnessed it and I can't exactly tell you who I didn't write things down I was just like oh you know

that kind of makes sense yeah you know that actually kind of makes sense because they they're an incredible creature they really are but I think like I said once you're on their radar and they get a connection with you they all know you they all know you and they'll come out I'm actually teaching one of the guys I work with and he's actually took what I told him and he was up of the local lake here and he went up and he heard the wood knocks he said it sounds like somebody was not chopping on wood he's i i knew what that was because you told me about it and this guy's really calm and chill like i am and and you know very open-minded a spanish guy from mexico and um so he says okay he walks up there and he says uh hey hollers out i know who you are

It's okay. I'm not here to hurt you. It'd be really neat to see you step out, and this big white Sasquatch stepped out for him to present itself to him on his first time of trying this. So, I mean, it absolutely works, and it's your mindset, and like I said, they can read you like an open book if you're ready or not. And it's not like these chance sightings of a road crossing or anything else. This is a true connection.

You know, I think if you spend more than a couple minutes in their presence and you're open-minded, they form that connection with you. And it was Tom Cantrell doing an interview on Pork and Beans that he had said one day that they form a mental connection with you and it lasts for a long time. And I got to thinking about that. And that's what got me to my signing number five and started me as a research. but we can get on to my fourth one. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, my fourth one, which was with my mom as well. We were there at the mobile,

there's a nice driveway, you go up the hill, and I had cars parked all along the hill, because like I said, you know, I had a bunch of cars. I had them stashed everywhere, and I would just fix them up, buy and sell, you know. But we're out talking. It was, you know, and this was only about a week.

after the last one, the third one. And we're standing on top the driveway. There's actually a streetlight there that illuminates everything. But it wasn't on or anything. The sun had just, just gone down from the hill. So it was very light out still. And we're talking and she said, look at that. And we're looking at the property across the road, big pasture.

But at the edge of the pasture, there's a tree line, which continues on from the property I'm on because there's a big pasture on the other side where I had the first sighting and there was a family that lived there that was related to the folks that on the ranch and that was just another

house on the property. They had like five houses on the property. But at the end of the property, the tree line starts and comes across the road and all the way around this person's pasture, across the creek and up the mountain on the other side. And my mom's, well, look at that. Wellness looks different at every stage.

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I mean, it's just so perfect that there's no head bob, there's no nothing, and they're walking through stuff that you don't want to walk through, because there's so much deadfall and windfall, you know, through these areas, you know, because it's not like anybody's going through there, clearing everything out. You know, they just usually, at the end of their pastures, they just deal with their pastures and leave the tree lines and stuff alone. And to see this thing gliding, and the eyes are looking directly at us. And I think my mom spotted it first. And this is right at the beginning, right as soon as we can see, you know, something

as far as into our field of vision. And we watched it, walk through the tree line, and basically glide through. the tree line let's put it that way and he just kept looking back at us probably about every five or six steps and it was moving and it's just walking it's moving faster than I could run and every five or six steps all the way across crossing the creek then we'd start to head up the mountain and it looked at us all the way every five or six steps just looking directly at and until it got over the top and vanished over the top of the mountain. And the feeling that I got at the time was goodbye.

It was telling me goodbye. I don't know where the feeling was from, but it was just, and at that time I was actually, it just calmed me from all the sightings I'd had. I didn't have that terror anymore or anything. I was accepting what was happening. but apparently not accepting enough because it was bailing on me and nothing else happened for another almost 40 years, 41 years is when I decided that I'm not afraid anymore.

I don't have any fear. I finally got to get all this off my chest. Otherwise, I wanted nothing to do with Sasquatch whatsoever. Nothing. I don't care. I wanted nothing to do with it. then my curiosity started kicking up. And, you know, because that's part of being open-minded is being very curious.

And I want to know how, in my whole life, I like to tear things apart and put them back together. You know, it's like I want to know what makes this tick. Why does this work this way? How did they figure this out? And after getting all that off my chest, I started collecting books and reading, and reading, and reading. I probably have over here probably close to 100 books. and I've got from all the four horsemen you know I've got everybody that's top name

I've made friends with almost everybody unfortunately Pete Burns is not doing too well probably won't be with us for very much longer yeah well I think he's 98 yeah so he's outlived them all I know they all didn't like him because he was the foreigner but he's outlived every one of them I think that's hilarious and the hard part is that not one of them ever saw a Sasquatch.

You know, they are the pioneers and not one of them ever got to see a Sasquatch. Yeah. You know, and that's what got me thinking. A lot of these little things, you know, when you chase something, what happens? It runs faster and further away. I watched 10 years of Finding Bigfoot. I love you, Cliff Berrickman and Bobo, but banging on trees every time you guys did it. and they did their little mouth pop.

Each time they answered you, it was further and further away. They were going the opposite direction. You know, I think Sasquatches have a sense of humor. And they were answering them, just to humor them. And they're on their way out. You know, you're never going to find one doing those things. They have to come to you. And that's what we call, I think Tom Coyne this phrase is armchair squatching.

where you find a place if you do have a connection, which means you've probably had a sighting for more than a minute or two. They've done a connection to you mentally. They know who you are. And you just get out there and let them know you're there. I get out in the woods. If you came across me in the woods were spying on me, you'd think I was nuts.

I'm out there talking out loud to everything, you know, giving my thoughts and say, hey, every time I get up to my area, Hey, Bill's here. Which, this will get into story number six with Bill. Bill's here. But yeah, by doing all the reading I'm doing, because I'm very logical and very good at reasoning. And looking at how others were doing all these things,

I was like, you know what? This doesn't work. None of this works. You guys are not finding what you're hunting for. for because the things that you're doing and the techniques you're using do not work. So all these people that are going out doing all these things, especially like Moneymaker and stuff, they're still out there begging on trees, call blasting. And you know what?

The only experiences they're getting is maybe a tree knockback or maybe they'll get a vocalization. And that's about it. You know, they're not getting face-to-face views of these magnificent forests. people. I think they're just beautiful, absolutely beautiful creatures, you know, and to be so big and be able to be as stealthy as they are, man, they've got some kind of intelligence. And the more time you spin with them, the stranger things get. I was telling Jill, Jill Redesmeier from they did a flash of beauty. I said, Jill, I call this quote unquote, high strangeness. happens around him. She raises me back. She says, yeah, Bill, guess what? You're going to like the new movie.

She says, it's right up your alley. Well, it's not really my alley. It's just what I'm finding out. You know, the more time you spend with these creatures, the weirder things get because I think they open up to you more and let you see more, the more time you're with them or spend around them. And what do they call?

We're the woo camp. And what Jill and Brett are doing now with the new movie, and it's beautiful, it's wonderful. I saw it's probably what I've seen is 90% complete. They still have some stuff they want to add in. And it was, they're trying to bridge the gap between the apers, because everybody thinks it's just like Cliff. He's still stuck on it. It's a stupid ape. Sorry, Cliff, but you couldn't be more wrong.

You know, it's not a stupid ape. I think they're more part of us than anything. They look like us. A lot of them do. You're going to get different looks. They're just like us. You've got different looks, different shapes, different body sizes. When it comes to the footprints, look at the Grays Harbor footprints that they're so famed.

It doesn't have the mid-tarsal break. It has a longitudinal break or longitudinal arch. Really look at it. Cliff will come up with a different reason and an excuse to try to try to. veer it off to something else. I'm like, no, it's right there. Look at it. There's no mid-tarsal break in that one.

Some have mid-tarsal breaks. Some are longitudinal, you know, similar to ours. You know, it's the size that tells the difference. You know, you can't hide that square inches of footage, you know, to their feet. They're just big. Even the small ones have a very disproportionate. portion of foot compared to ours. So,

that's very interesting. Yeah. I'm going to have to take a closer look at the Grays Harbor. Absolutely. Take a really close look at it and go, man, I really don't see the mid-tarsal here. We'll see. This looks more like a human foot, but it's huge. You know, it's a beautiful print.

Beautiful print. Before we get too far away from a part of the conversation we just had, so you're saying that when you go to an area, you have to verbally say out loud like, hey, Bill's here or something like that. And that's how you're going to get that face-to-face connection, potentially. Not necessarily. They know you're coming. They know your thoughts before you even leave your home. If you are connected to them, I'm constantly connected to them. I don't know how it works. Don't ask me. I just go with it. And that's what Tom has taught me. He's like, I've called him

several times, Tom. I'm really questioning my sanity. Some of the craziest things were happening around me, and he's like, just, just go with it. It's okay. It's okay. Just go with it. Where things are going to happen?

Just go with it. You'll understand it some other time. Just go with it. Like, okay, you're really sure I'm not going nuts. You know, and I'm sure most of us feel that way with some of the strangeness that we see, especially people that are seeing them cloak. You know,

know, Barb Shoeh actually got it on film. And there's been a couple of people that actually got it on film. And it's kind of like a predator effect, you know, and very, very interesting. And now it was in a flash of beauty, this will be in the new one, the paranormal. And wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Power performance with vital proteins, advanced collagen peptides plus creatine. Designed to help build and maintain muscle mass in combination with the

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Really? Yes, it's coolest thing you ever saw. And, you know, they're making, like I said, they're trying to bridge the camps together and go, hey, you know, they are a flesh and blood bean, but they also have other things. And I think it's just things that we actually used to have at one point in time before we domesticated ourselves and started changing our environment to suit ourselves. They took it a whole different level and changed themselves to suit the environment. Very, very interesting. I think there's something definitely that was said there.

It's like, you know, as we become more and more civilized and we latch on to technology and in the future, that'll become even more so and maybe it becomes part of us, what are we losing in our connection to nature? There's a lot of different pathways you could go. We've lost a lot. You know, look at people that have these psychicabilities and telekinesis and telepathic. I mean, I've experienced in my life being telepathic and be able to really, really, the minds of people close to me and it still happens to me.

Even though my ex and I, we still live in the same house, but we're not together anymore and haven't been for a year and a half. But I will think of something that I'm hungry for. I'll come home and that's what she's made for dinner. And it happens more often than not, you know, because we have a connection. We're close together. We've been, you know, close together for over 12 years. So you develop a mental connection.

And just like people dreaming in the same bed together, science is actually coming up with where they are actually mentally connected and in the same state. And science has really proven a lot of things. And that's another thing that they're trying to bridge the gap on is show the science of things. Even Todd Nase is looking at the eye glow and how they do it. there is actual actual scientific precedent for it for some other

animals that are able to do that especially deep sea creatures how they're able to illuminate in that dark water by illuminations you know there's there's another avenue of showing you know that things can light up on their own it's all in your chemistry

and yeah as far as telepathic I had a lot of abilities growing up that I suppressed because I didn't want nothing to have to do with it. Scared me. I wasn't able to handle it. I think Sasquatch figured out the same thing. They ain't ready yet.

But some of that's starting to come back for me now. And I think they're kind of opening up some of that in me. It's become not from wanting to prove anything, prove their existence, because I already know they're there. I know it's flesh and blood. I've been face to face. I've been within two times within 35 feet, you know, 35 feet or less, one, two feet or less. My last one, they allowed me to get within 10 feet.

And then the one I would say that we walk through the tree line up the mountain the other side, it's within a quarter mile or less. so I've had a lot of close contact and most of my stuff has been daylight everybody argues everybody goes out at nighttime why you know the you can see a lot better in the daytime so I don't go out

and I do camp out in the area sometimes which I may do here in the next couple days and I'm going to try to do more and more that all my camping gear I figured well it's in the van it's going to stay in the van and you know when I get the uh, inclin to do it.

I will just spend the night out there. And I have and I haven't had any nighttime activity with them. All mine's been in the daytime. You had mentioned earlier. We were talking in it kind of got referred to quickly. We were talking about Todd Neese and. Yeah. For calling Sasquatch out for five nights in a row and that convinced him of some things.

So can you go into a little bit more? What exactly was done when you were. calling Sasquatch out and be able to have the creature come to the area, I guess. Okay. This will run us into number five. All right. Okay. Well, I've watched a podcast.

I think it was in like February of 2021 that Tom Cantrell was on. Tom said one thing. And that's where it got me into the connection thing. because a lot of people think Tom's full of hooy, you know, that, you know, he's just nuts. But you know what? I can lend credence to the experiences he had, you know, because I've tested it. I was actually calling him out on it is what I was going to do. He had made the statement of being connected to them.

He says, once you form a connection with them, you're pretty much to know. for a very long time, if not for life. And I thought about that. And I thought hard about it, just like I did with, you know, they never tried to harm me. You know, I'm OCD. So when I stick on something, my mind plays it and plays it and plays it and plays it and plays it. You know, songs, all that stuff. It just runs over my head and just continues.

I'm like, stop. I wish I had to switch here to turn things off, you know, so I could get some rest because I don't rest much. Tell you truth. but I was like okay everybody's like Tom's full of crap and everything but I'm like I don't think so I mean I'm looking at

the things that he's put and the things that he's written and going you know what it makes more sense to me to if you're because like I said I've trained a lot of animals and understanding the mindset of both prey and predator so I really

really kind of analyze the things that he had written and Arla Williams had written. And I think Arla taught Tom a lot as well. But he made that statement that they're connected to you. So I'm like, oh, okay. At the time I was a caregiver. I worked as a medical aide and caregiver for 14 years. So in the medical industry, until the shot came around,

it's like, nobody's forcing me to do anything against my will. So thank you, governor. She fired me. I worked up to my last day until she said everybody's fired at that point. You know, Kate Brown at the time, which, you know, there should be able to be some lawsuits over that. Because an executive order is not a law. That is a whole different. That was a crazy time, wasn't it?

It is a hard suggestion. We'll just call it that way. So I decided, okay, seven days I am going to focus on the sidings I had, especially face-to-face, and the one I was face-to-face with because he seemed to be the one that was really trying to connect with me the most. Because the first sit-in I had, I've never seen that Sasquatch again. The rest of them were this alpha male. And now I call him silver. He is black as a shadow could be. You know, I mean, just like avoid a hole.

That's how black they are, or at least he is. And so I focused on him. I focused on the sightings that I had. And I focused on where I wanted to meet them. The place where I go up there, and that's where my research area is, I've been going there for over 40 years. I've hunted every inch of that mountain. I know every deer trail, everything. I know where every mushroom is.

I know where every medicinal plant is on that mountain. I know the trees personally. I've probably given a couple of them a name. I go up there shooting. I used to take friends up there shooting all the time, camping. I have a camp spot up there that is just absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. It's surrounded with the old growth timber. And it's just this nice little open prairie spot.

And the only way you can find it is to know where it is. Because you drive right past it go, oh, that's a cool spot there. You know, that'd make a great camp. There's actually a road that goes to it. It just dives up, but you have to dive off the bank and you hit the road. You have to know where it's at or you're not going there. And so I spent every waking moment of those that week picturing my sightings, that one particular Sasquatch and letting you know I want to meet you.

just to try to prove, you know, or disprove, actually, the mental connection. And I was like, yeah, you know, I'm going to call BS on you. Let's find out. So I'm going to experiment with this. Well, in the meantime, towards the end of that week, Kit Muriel and Miriam were over in Brookings. Sorry, can I clarify something? Go ahead. This is just a, was it Kit Morrill?

Yeah. Okay. Sorry. There's a pronunciation. All right. Just double second. Okay. Well, him and I have had this thing over the past year where I was like,

he's the elusive kip creature. I've seen more saskwatches. And I've seen eight saskwatches and zero kip. You know, and I've done this thing on his Facebook for close to a year. We finally got to meet at Beachfoot. It was just hilarious. He's a fun guy. Just like the day before Beachfoot, I put up my hog,

rhythms are have to be correct. My hands are itchy, you know what that means? That means jackpot. I'm going to meet. I'm going to run into this creature, you know. So I put all these things up on this thing.

That's funny. By the minute, we're peeking around corners, you know, going out, oh, oh, oh, I think I spotted him. There you go.

Sorry to distract you, but I just had to make sure is the right guy I was thinking of it. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, he's funny. But anyways, I was going to go over there and actually meet him

instead of go with squatching. And he's like, well, Bill, I'll catch up with you in the summer when I'm over there because he's got some things he does at the airport here for his fire training and stuff. And even though he's retired, he's still. Your first sip should do more than simply start today. Choose vital proteins marine collagen peptides, source from Wildcaught Cod. With collagen peptides to help support healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints, it's a simple way to add daily support to what you're already enjoying. So your upgraded routine supports you right back. Vital Proteins.

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now. But I put out of this into action, and this is the first time I ever, and I didn't even know about what they call mindspeak, which is just telepathy. It's nothing more, nothing less. It's just a telepathic way of communication. And on my way out there, I was getting ready to turn onto the highway, which makes it about another 15, 16 miles to where I was headed. and I hear this in my head we're not going to meet you where you wanted to meet I'm driving I'm going what was that

I'm like okay Bill go with it so I just kind of dismissed with what popped into my head I'm like that was very strange okay because I've been able to hear other people's thoughts but I've never had them planted into me like that.

You know, so that was that was a bit of strangeness. And that's when I started seeking out things about mind speak. And Robin McCrae and her had chatted about it and stuff. And I was like, and also Greg Roberts from right here in Medford. He's our weather guy. He owns rogueweather.com. And he's also a researcher. And he's experienced things in the same manner I have.

and the way things have been put into our mind. Sometimes it's a sentence. Sometimes it's a paragraph. Sometimes it's a spoken word. Sometimes it's a thought or feeling. And it's just a very strange thing. And we just learn to kind of go with it. So I'm on my way up there.

I make my turn. I'm headed up the main highway. And I get my turn off. And I turn off and there's a guy parked there. And I'm like, well, are you lost? He's like, no. He says, I'm up from California. I just moved here recently.

And so we had a big conversation. there. He was looking for a place to ride his quads. And I said, you know, you got a cool area. Just, just please stay on the road. You know, don't go off road trash and, you know, the environment here and everything. I said, there's old logging roads, but you can go up them. But, you know, don't be during burnouts and cookies and spending your tires on them, you know. But they are hard panned because they are gravel. You know, it's just they're overgrown. And they make great highways there. You know, you can, that's where I go for a lot of my walks. I'll just pick a log and road and an old one that's overgrown.

I go because I know it's great, great footing. It doesn't matter where you are up there. The footing is great anyway. It's decomposed granted. So as far as getting a footprint, good luck. You know, it's almost impossible up there. That's why I got so excited about the snow track that I screwed up. But I talked to him and I decided, okay, I'm going to drive on up.

And there's this area I call the Triangle Marsh. And I made it past that. and then I hit a three-foot bank of snow on the roadway. And if there's three feet at this point, it's probably, I would say, about 4,100 foot level, maybe 4,200 feet right there. And it goes all the way up to about 5,200 feet.

So you figure at the top, there's probably 16, 17, 18 feet of snow. Wow. So I wasn't going any further. And the place that I wanted to meet him was up towards the top, So there was no way that was going to happen. So then I remembered that little statement that came into my mind when I turned as we're not going to meet you, where we wanted to meet you. So I turned around, come back down and I park there's what I call the triangle marsh because it's shaped like a triangle. And by then the other gentleman that I'd been talking to showed up there.

And so we talked, I said, you're not going to go any further. I said, there's a wall of snow and you're not getting past it, especially he had some little. car. And so we chatted for another half an hour. You know, really nice guy, really nice guy. I really enjoyed our conversations. And then some guy while we're standing there talking, come up in this big old four-wheel drive pickup, just flying by us. I'm like, we're both laughing. Go, well, you're going to make it very far. Oh, it wasn't two minutes. He's coming back down. He was out of there. And so we finished our conversation. conversation he took off, and it was really quiet. And I was going to try one of Tom's methods of

armchair squashing. So I had brought the book that I'm in, which is Sasquatch Face to Face by Tom Cantrell. We all wrote our own stories that are in there. So plus he put some of his own stories in there. And so I thought, well, you know, that was a good time for me to finish reading. I went down in the woods to where I'd get a nice view of the Mars area there and everything because the snow had beaten everything down. it's there's cat tails and marsh grasses and milkweed, milk thistle that's, you know, five feet tall through there and you can't hardly see down through there. And matter of fact, I think I sent you a photo of one of the, it looks like a teepee type structure that has an opening in it. I think I sent you one of those pictures. That is right there at the triangle marsh.

That is on from where my view was, because I'm at the point of it at the tip of the triangle. And it goes up and crosses here. There's like some bushes here, a bush here, and then there's that little teepee. And that is a old apple tree that had all the branches snapped down all the way around this thing to form this look, what looks like some type of shelter or a blind. And so I actually find a spot where there's a tree route that comes. that comes out and sits across like this, yeah high off the ground, and nice little bench,

perfect spot to sit. So I actually brought a lunch too with me. And Tom's like, oh, bring a lunch, bring a book, sit back, kick back and read. I'm like, okay, well, okay, good spot to test your theory. And so I sat there,

I sat down and I cracked the book open, and I thought, okay, about the connection. All right, if you're here, give me a tree knock. It wasn't half a second later after I thought of that. Are you serious? I am absolutely serious.

Really? It came from the southwest area, and it sounded like it was probably a quarter mile away. Wow. I'm like, oh, maybe that could have been an anomaly. I don't know. So I was like, okay, that was interesting. And that's me. Everything in the film and stuff, I don't say that it was made by a Sasquatch or structures or anything,

because I didn't see it make it. You know, I always put in a little video that I'll make for myself and say, well, that's interesting. What do you think? You know, is there a Boy Scout troop out here in the woods running around building all this stuff? If they're doing it, they're traveling all over the planet because these structures are everywhere, and they're all the same type of structures. Right. I've got so many. So I mean, I just sent you just a little bit.

But, so I thought, well, okay, that's interesting. well, maybe there is something to this. Maybe I am mentally connected to this guy. And so I'm reading and everything. And about five minutes later, I look over to my left and I'm going, what is that? I stood up and I'm looking. I've rubbed my eyes.

And that means I absolutely rub my eyes trying to focus because I wear my glass and take them off, you know, takes me a second to refocus because these are just readers. And I've rubbed my eyes. I look over going, now that wasn't there before. There's a new bush over there. And one of the questions I had in my mind is how they can hide in plain sight. So he's showing me exactly how he does it. And by this time, I read my eyes three different times and looked at this.

I'm going, and I'm the third time I go, oh, you're here. That's you. I was like, cool. His hair has gone from just the blackest black you ever saw to silver. And what's strange about it is it is silver like three quarters of the way down.

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Did not move a single hair. I went, that's how you do it. I said, I could have walked by you. I could have walked three feet from you and not knew you were there. Because as you say, as I tell you, when we're hunting or anything or looking for something, we're looking for movement. and he did not move one single hair in 45 minutes that we we had our company. I'm like, that's cool.

I see you there. You know, and I just, and Tom told me, ignore them. And I heard that from a couple of people, you know, say, just ignore them. You know, the more you ignore them, the more curious they are and the longer they'll stay. I'm going to try all this. And I said, well, so far, Tom stuff is working because there he is. You know, he's here. And so it was about 10 minutes later, maybe 15.

I'm sitting there reading through the book, and every once in a while, you know, I just look out and make sure he's still there. And I'm reading, so I'm sure he's hearing what I'm reading in my mind because I read it out loud in my mind as I think most people do. And so he's, I read about to ask watches and people being terrified. I thought about that afterwards going, you know what, that might not have been the best book to take. he's probably over there laughing in his own mind about the whole thing. You know, yeah, stupid humans. But I heard three, you know, we're still calling, I'm still calling him three knocks, but the pops that were so fast, it was like machine gun.

And that was directly to my west. And this is, oh, first, let me get to this first. I miss this part. As before he appeared, I heard a. whistle. And I heard the whistle coming from the direction he was at, one to the direct west, and one to the north of me, behind me, up on the hillside. And that got me thinking, I'm surrounded. There's at least three of them here. And this is kind of a tactical thing. I think when they whistle like that to tell each other, okay, are you in position?

you know and what I'm finding more and more and learning from other people is they're very they do things in kind of a militaristic manner they're very very good at it and very tactical and the direction they left me to exit from where the three of them were was directly back to my vehicle they left that open you know because you hear people being escorted out and I think that's what they do is it you're actually surrounded. If there's one there, trust me, there's more than one. And they're escorting you back towards your vehicle. That's the spot they leave open

is the direction they want you to go. Everything else, they kind of have blocked and they have it covered. But I heard those three whistles just before I saw him and he appeared. And I'm like, okay,

there's three of you here. That's interesting. Because that's not a bird of any kind of sound I've ever heard in these woods and I've been in these woods all my life. I spend every spare moment I can in the woods because I get my calm there.

I go there to relax and I love nature. I've got every type of plant in that area. Matter of fact, I just discovered I've got a huge patch of blueberry and wild huckleberries, which I'm going to keep my eye on because I'm going to be forging ahead. I'm making some huckleberry jam and some huckleberry pie.

And I'll can some of that pops. And I'm like, that was like just inside the tree line, but I couldn't see nothing. It was close enough that I should have been able to see it in my vision. You know, because I can see right in there through the trees a little bit. I mean, there's some brush and stuff. And it's a marshy area. Even that's marshy. There's a lot of dead windfall.

running through there. And I'm like, how can something go through there and not make a sound or even a print for that matter? I went through there afterwards. The only prints I found, which I found in the juvenile, I now call him JJ. And he's the one that made the three fast pops. It sounded like a dang machine gun going off. It was so fast.

I was like, whoa, that's pretty cool. And next thing I know, I look to my left, and he's standing next to the Alpha Mail. and the alpha male was still taller, even squatted down, than the juvenile. That's the juvenile. That was JJ, and he was doing the typical rock.

And somebody explained this, why they do that? When you're in the trees, and you rock, try this going out there, and you rock back and forth, it gives you more of a visual of the area

when you're moving back and forth like that in more of a 3D effect. I thought about that. went, you know what? You're right. You can see better when you're doing that little rock back and forth. So next time you're in the woods, try that. And look through there and look at what you're seeing. You get to see the angles as you move back and forth. And you can see what's behind things a little better. You get more of a visual perspective. So I thought, yeah. Okay. So there's another question that's kind of answered. You know, and others should try this. And, you know, and that's the whole thing about the more information we have. You know, the more we start to understand these creatures. But I look over there and the juvenile's there. I went, wow, I feel pretty honored. He's actually introducing me to the juvenile, his juvenile.

That means there's a monocum of trust there that they've already given me. And, you know, that felt pretty cool. You know, that you're trusting me enough to introduce me to your juvenile. Well, basically, why he's introducing me to the juvenile is because when I'm up there, the juvenile leaves with me. I'm the babysitter. That's what it's kind of come down to, I think. I know if he's with me, he hangs out with me a lot. But he stays fairly stealthy.

But, you know, he's practiced in his ways. And I think that's what a lot of the tree structures in the area are, is the juvenile is being taught how to make these structures. And I don't know why they're being made or what they mean, you know, but and I want to take an EMF meter out and start running around these and see if their power areas because it's all granite. This whole mountain is granite, but it's full of water. Really? There is water.

I don't care. We've been in a seven-year drought and the water still flows up there. You can go all the way to the top of the mountain, dig down a foot, even if the worst drought, which we've had, and still hit water. I don't, it's hard to explain why this mountain is so full of water. but it's amazing. And there's a pot or, yeah, set up as a pond, but it's a spring. And that's a double spring. And it flows year round.

And they go right down to a, somebody, I think the Forest Service has stuck a hose in. They use it for a water sup for emergency also for fires. And I think they actually drink out of the PVC pipe that was stuck down into this one spring spot that really gets to flow. because I find their prints there, impressions of where they've been there, and it's right at the edge where the water comes out of the pipe. So I think they kind of pick up the pipe and get an easy drink instead of using their hands or anything else. But back at the other, the siding that I was having on number five,

which answered a lot of the questions. It answered my question on how do they hide in plain sight. That showed me right there exactly how he does it. And I understand it because a lot of people will see a tree stop. and go, then it stood up. I've heard that a lot of accounts of that. You know, it's like, I swear it was a burnout tree stop. And then it stood up and walked away.

I'm like, yeah, now I understand that. And they answer my questions in ways like that. But they don't tell me or, you know, put it into my mind. They show me and go, this is how it is. And so that siding lasted for 45 minutes. I um because I had looked at my phone when it started I looked at my phone when it ended he just uh I had brought it and everybody's like why didn't you take pictures this that's just beyond what you know I was there for because the whole thing was is ignore them for the most part and the more

you ignore them the more they'd stay around because of curiosity and that absolutely worked and I wasn't going to jeopardize it but on citing number six I do have pictures they're being enhanced right now by Scott Violet from Squatch America. He's got a friend that enhanced a couple of his, and I said, Scott, if I send you these, you think your friend would enhance those for me? So I'm just waiting for those to come back, because I'll let you know, when the sighting,

when I get to that one, and we'll get the specifics on that one. But, yeah, after they left, I went up, and I was like, well, there's got to be a track somewhere. there was a patch of snow just probably, I would say, 30 yards up from where I heard the rapid pop, you know, when the juvenile came in. I said, well, he came from that neighborhood. So I'm betting to use the roadway to get there, or at least part of the way. I found three of his tracks.

I have pictures of one. And somebody said, oh, it's a bearer. No, there's no claws in it, first of all. And it's got a really heavy mid-tarsal break. and I mean it's like about that angle I mean it was really really tight from where he pushed off

and pushed everything up behind it and it was nine and a half inches three and a half inches wide and he was five foot tall and if you do calculations of the surface area and everything to height and weight and all that it all mashed up pretty well

so I went home immediately I called actually I I sent the print through a text to Randy Sylvie. Randy Sylvie runs the, was one of the members of the Ben Bigfoot Research, research group over in Ben. And he was part of my initial getting things off my chest

during the Squatchenbrose. He was another one that was there, and he was instrumental in me, you know, getting things out. And I tell him, I blame it all. all on him. I said my whole is watching things all your fault. All your fault, Randy.

Now I live it every second of the day. No, I'm not no, I'm not infatuated with the whole thing. No, I'm not. The exes like, that's all you talk about. That's all you think about. Yeah, well. Exactly. Yeah, I guess.

Now I'm teaching others as well. but I sent the print to him. He got a hold of one of his group members, Shannon Munson, and she was down here in Grant's Pass, trying to get us hooked up. So she'd come out, maybe cast the prints, and, you know, I could tell my story, and we could measure the whole site and do the whole nine yards.

But she was down visiting family, and it didn't quite work out where she was able to come down. So at last minute, before dark, and she finally said, well, I'm not going to be able to make it out. You know, we got all these things happening, and it's just been too busy. I had right for Loath, picked up a 25-pound bag of hydrocal and headed back for the woods, but by the time I got back up there, because it was 72 degrees that day,

same as when I found the trackway. Funny how that happened the same way, come to think of it. And a lot of it had melted out. I had found one tract that was 17.5 inches. of the alpha male, which was up because where he was, there's actually a logging road right there, an old overgrown logging road that goes all the way around the triangle marsh and just heads on up towards where I initially heard his first pop

when I asked for a tree knock. But there was one or that one, two, three, four prints in the snow. One I could see his toes in, but they weren't good enough because the son of order had been beaten down on that, and they weren't good enough to cast. But the one for the juvenile was good enough to cast, but by the time I got back up there, it melted out so much that one of the prints was almost completely gone.

I had measured 32 inches between the first and the second print and 34 between the second and third print from heel to toe, heel to toe, heel the toe, heeled the toe, all the way up, so it was accurate. And so all I got was, pictures and then I learned afterwards Cliff Berkman says he did a short little video on how to photograph and cast he says that you photograph them from five different angles 45 degrees left right backside and forward side then one

directly over the top so I learned all that after the fact of course so yeah so unfortunately there's another one I blew but I do have a a pretty good picture of that first print. And that was it. Unfortunately, I was hooked from that point on. I was like, okay, Tom. And I got a hold of Tom. I said, Tom, you know, I was trying to call BS on you.

I love you, but, you know, a lot of people think, you know, you guys are the woo crowd and you're half nuts. But I said it absolutely worked on my first time. out to go to the woods and choose you. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference.

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It absolutely worked the first time out. So from that point on, I'm a researcher. And I've been going there every chance I get since then. Have you ever experienced? You mentioned whistles and pops, which we talked about. Have you ever noticed or heard any vocalizations besides that at all when you're out there? One very strange one. Okay.

Not too far. Probably within, I would say a quarter mile. It was the first X in the area that I mean, really nice one too. It's been since destroyed. I was glad my son got to see it because about a week later, it had been destroyed. I think it was the Forest Service that's destroying some of the structures that are up there. And I called it the phone booth. There was a rock.

Hang on a second. Let me go grab it. All right. All right. Now under this rather large X, these logs were probably, I would say about, one was about 10 inches and the other one was probably 12 inches in diameter. One was held up by a madrone tree that was right there that was dead, but it had a Y in it. And they tend to use a lot of Ys that they find in trees. This just makes it easier.

You know, why not? Especially if you're by yourself building one. You know, I used to do this as a contractor where I would, you know, make myself a little helper things. And they use these Ys. But one end, which was a butt end, was hooked on that Y. But under exactly center, under that X. was this rock right here. And it's decomposed granite.

I have pictures of it when it was just standing up. And you can see the outline of it in the ground from where it was impressed in the ground. And it had probably been there for, you know, 20, 30 years. For some reason, something picked it up and stood it up. And so the picture, the first picture I ever took of it, you can see the impression, which is probably close to an inch deep. so you know this rock is this rock has been laying there for probably 50 60 80 100 years you know

so i call it the phone booth for a reason because when i get there the juvenile usually ends up coming up and hanging out with me for the day or at least for a while so i was up there one day and this is where i really started calling it to phone booth i heard the strangest scream from down below in the valley. And it was so strange, I can't even describe it. And that was, and believe it or not, that's the only vocalization I've ever heard from them. And because I'm not there in night,

you know, when I think they feel more comfortable doing vocalizations at night than they do in the daytime because they feel there's nobody out there or nobody really paying attention to what's going on out there. So, and that's one of my new things is I'll be getting a, really nice sound recorder, a digital recorder. That's coming up here soon. You know, I'm a budget squatcher.

I use what I have. I mean, my latest purchase was a IR infrared 4K video camera that takes 30 megapixel stills as well as video. So I was like, well, 30 megapixels, I can blow that up the size of a house and get detail. So unfortunately, the picture I took of the female Sasquatch was on my phone. so you know it pixelates a little too quickly and it's an older phone so it's like 0.3 megapixel so it's not really detailed that's why it's being enhanced but I heard that call and what I think

it was is they said go play a bill and it was an excitement call that was made by the juvenile it was a very strange strange call but it wasn't more than two or three minutes later right here, thumb, thumb, thumb, thumb, coming up the mountain.

I can hear by the beetle footsteps, just kind of a happy little walk coming up up the hill

and then I heard it again, so-thum, some, thumb, some, thumb, thumb,

thumb, so I'm like, man, that's got some power and weight to it. I said,

that's got to be the juvenile come up the mountain. And by the third set, I heard,

because each of them was about six or eight steps, you know, thum, thumb, thumb, and you can

just absolutely hear just power hit in the ground. And I should have been able to see him. And I'm looking, I'm going, you know, because I can see right down through the trees all the way down. I'm like, I should be able to see where those steps are coming from. Couldn't see him.

I could hear them, but I couldn't visually see them. So that's what got me to kind of start and go towards the camp of will. Maybe there's something to this cloaking thing, you know, that they are able to go or either that or do something to your mind to where, you know, know, they're taking themselves out of your mind as far as seeing them. I don't know. But the cloaking makes more sense because that seems to be a lot of people seeing that. And so I'm there, I'm going, okay, I hear you.

I'm sure it's you, JJ, which is what I've named him. And I used to just call him junior. I switched to JJ and thought-wise to me, the feeling was that he liked that better. So, but there's a culvert off to my left of where this is at. It just runs under the roadway, and it's about a six-foot culvert. And, but it's straight down off the roadway, you know, I'd have to use repelling gear to get down there. And I wish I'd had a drone at the time because I had to nail him inside that culvert. He's in there playing in the water.

I can hear how, you know, when you brush water and it just kind of humps up into a wave, and he's pushing it out of this culvert. and when I said on pork and beans show Tom's like well that's not really a word sploosh that's a word to me Mike came to my rescue he's like oh no Bill said it

it's a word but that's he did it several times he's inside that thing playing in the water and I can hear him in there and I'm like man you little snot you know I can't get down there

you know and I know you're in there and so he's in there playing in the water, doing his little thing, moving the water out, and just pushing it out and waves. I said, well, at least you're getting a bath. You probably stink. I talk to them like they're my best friend. I really do.

You know, I give them crap, whatever it takes. I talk to them like, they're my best friend or a family member, you know, like they're one of the family. And I think that actually goes a long ways with them. It really does, you know, because that gives them me showing that I've accepted them, accept them for what they are. And I absolutely have. But yeah, so the next time I was up there, it was just a couple weeks later. And I'm at the phone booth. And the rock had been moved. So we started playing this little game. I know it was the juvenile. I put it back in the hole,

stood it back up. And we did, we've been doing this for, we did this for over a year, of standing it back going back up and the only reason I took the rock is because the structure was completely destroyed. I mean, it is just wasted. You could never tell that it was ever an X of any sort. Well, I've gone up there about a week later or actually a couple weeks later and I hear this whistling.

It's on top of the mountain. The opposite wave of where it came from the first time. And just an excited whistle like he's up there and you go, Woohoo, Bill's here. All right. And then he kind of hung out with me for a couple hours. And when I'm driving up in there, I'm always looking for new things. And I'm looking for trails, looking for the deer trails, see how much food there is.

And, you know, that they're not over-hunting, you know, the area. Because I want to be there a long time so I can access him. And I can hear him just inside the tree line following me up as I'm going. I got my windows down. And I just hear his footsteps coming through and just kind of going. with me as I go up the roadway. And most of the activity that I have has been where the springs are. And so I usually make a line up to the spring.

There's a spot there that I call actually the dining room. It's between the beginning of the access road and where the spring is. And because there's archways weave there. There's lots of arched structures that are in there. There's a teepee structure. that are in there. There's one that all the trees are put up in a teepee, but there's one that is fork

that comes around, and it's against the other tree, and this other log is fed up through the fork, which, sorry, that doesn't happen in nature. It's absolutely impossible. And the one with the fork in it is

broke at the tip, and laid over into this tree just exactly where it would fit perfectly. It is still attached. still attached to the bottom section. It's just at a 90 degree leaned up against the tree with the other one stuck through it and other ones around it. And matter of fact, when I was there the other day, I just got back from Beachfoot. It's like, I got to go to my area.

I can't help it. I got to go up there. Absolutely looked like there had been some added to it since then. So that was kind of neat. But yeah, I captured the rock and decided I was keeping that puppy, you know, because that kind of meant something for a thing between me and the juvenile. Right. So, but the next sighting, which would be my number six of my last one, just for getting up their timewise here.

Well, I have to work, too. I am, if you notice, oh, here we go, in my working uniform. So I worked knock shift at Food for Less here in Medford. So if anybody wants to stop by and chat with me, I'm on aisle two. I'm the condiments guy. I lift all the heavy glass stuff. pickles and all that fun stuff. And, you know, we can chat while I work because I won't stop working unless I have time.

But I will chat with you. So, and also Scott has asked me, Scott from Squatch America has asked me to, if I would be his report taker for Southern Oregon area. Oh, that's cool. So I felt pretty honored. I looked at him and I said, Scott, I am strictly a field researcher. But all these reports actually will help me, you know, and as far as understanding and things along that line.

And who knows, I'd get some casts out of it and whatever else, you know. And plus I get to probably help these people kind of understand what's really happening because it does freak out a lot of people and kind of calm them and let them know that, hey, they're not what you think they are. They look scary, but they're actually quite. quite gentle, very family-oriented, and actually very gentle creatures. So my next side, oh, my fifth siding, that was on March 27th, 2021, by the way. And so somebody could look up the podcast, Pork and Beans, and find the little section where Tom said, you know, about the connections and all that.

And that puts you all in the same time area. And you and I have been trying to link up for, God, I think almost a year or over a year. At least a year. Yes, it's been a while. But I was hoping for, you know, while I was prepared to do the other one. And that was the whole thing I want to before I got on years is to be more comfortable with talking about things. You know, I didn't want to be out there going, uh, uh, uh, or have to have anything in front of me. You know, there's nothing in front of me.

These are all from memory. And they'll be the same every time. Yeah. You know, because this is what I experienced. This is what I saw. So I became a researcher. So I started documenting this, the area that I'm in is a nice little valley. It goes from 3,200 feet at the base of the valley, up to 5,200 feet at the top of the valley.

There's a road that goes up both ways and connects at the top. Then there's another one. It's a connection of the top that goes over the mountain and down the other side there. So it's all in the same area. And most of all the activity, as far as structures, everything, are in this little valley. It's a 13-mile loop from start to finish. I can start from the highway, go up, run the loop, come across. And then there's another road that cuts through that goes across the springs.

It connects at the bottom of the valley. But that's a full 13-mile loop all the way around. Lucky number 13. It's not bad luck. It's actually good luck. But I started documenting all the structures and believe me, I sent you just tiny, tiny little piece. I've got hundreds of tree breaks, of archways. I've got, I think, seven asterisks.

I've got tridents. I've got stars. Matter of fact, I found one on my, I buried my cat up there last December. And it was in the middle of a really, really. heavy windstorm. So I was thinking in my mind that this is where I wanted to go and thinking to them, you know, kind of sending messages to them that I wanted to bury my cat up there at the spring, you know, because she was special. She was my best little buddy. Even though it was the exes cat, you know, she became a nice little buddy, you know, how I am with animals. So

I started thinking in my mind that I want to come up there and I'm going to need the road clear because I know there's nobody's been able to go up there because we're still in the middle of the storm. And so I'm preparing to go up. I got my cat all prepared and everything and I do it in a native way because she was a friend and part of the family. So I'm thinking to them I need the road clear. Well, there's no way I could have gone up there without trees being across the road, you know, at least in three or four places. As a matter of fact, I think I counted five different spots

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One way is like, 15 miles. The other way, it's 10 miles. And there is two places on the in-between, between the main road and the other connecting road that runs up the other side of the valley that are close to the roadway. But that's still from where my sightings have been at least three miles away. And the house is coming up one way. The closest there is, is about six miles away. Going over the mountain, you're looking, at about 15 miles. Going the other direction of the 10 miles,

there's a few little scattered houses and one little town there is not really a town. It's just a handful of houses and that's it. So it is actually more remote than you think, but remote, but easily accessible because the roadways that are in there. But started documenting all these different structures and things that, you know, I had seen

and, you know, finding Bigfoot actually helped me with those because, you know, they were showing tree structures and different things. And I went, wow, I've got those. I was looking at shows like Yawi Central and finding they've got the same stuff in Australia.

Looking over at some sites in Europe in Great Britain, they don't have a lot of contact over there, but they do have contact and there are very similar tree structures. Vietnam, China, just all over the world. Everywhere you go, the only place is Antarctica that would be void of them. Things that are in Alaska, Canada, Mexico, South America.

These creatures are everywhere. People just don't realize how many there really are. Like Doug Heichick figures probably about 6,500. Actually, I think there's much more. I think there's much more. I think they're in the tens of thousands. It's just they're scattered all over the world, and they're scattered in the areas that we don't go.

I mean, they go up stuff that, no, I'm not going up there. You know, I'm very careful because I do this all by myself. And so I'm very cautious not to get injured. I actually have a Sasquatch killed bear sitting out here in my shed. The back legs were tucked up in. side of the rib cage. Wait, can you repeat that? I have a Sasquatch killed bear.

Okay. The neck is run like a wrung-out washcloth. The skull and everything's still in there. All the paws were pinched off, at least the front two. The head still encased in the skin, all twisted up. And the back paws were still attached to the skin, but not in the body. yeah uh

yeah it'll blow your mind i said there's only a couple people that know about this now you all know about it well that's fine because no one listens to this okay

we're safe explain to me what so did you find like a you found like a I was on my way back from my visiting my grandchildren so i took the back roads and which you know because i hate taking the freeway i hate taking the same way it's just boring and uh i was like no you're not going to stop by your area no you're going by it no you're not going to stop by it oh yeah you are you're going to stop by your area and go check on it

so i get at this one area and it's it's the spot between where you turn off on the cutoff road at the base of the area uh to the spring and um i call it the now i call it their dining room or the kitchen after I found the bear. But I pulled up there and there's this arch tree that's right there and that's where I leave my offerings is on that tree. But what I hate to leave there is because it's very visible from the roadway. So anybody could go up and just destroy whatever I've got there. So I've learned to go to the back of one of the trees close to that and tack like a bag on

with some tacks and put fruit and garlic and tangerines. That's what I left the last time. week. But I took pictures of this when I, the first day I found it. And it had, the meat had just, there was just a very, very minuscule layer of meat on the ribs that I could see and a little bit back on the pelvic area. And you can see the gray because the meat, you know, after about 24 hours, it's going to turn gray, especially if it's really thin. Any meat that's left out. And it was like the meat had been stripped off just right down just before that tough layer

you know that you get in the ribs you know the piece that we're always gnawing on and pulling you know I don't think it's digestible but we eat it anyways at least I do I'm a carnivore I'm sorry I love it but but it had that had that gray layer of meat on there I was like wow this is fresh I didn't know what it was because it's straight down a bank you know and it's like I'm not getting myself hurt going down there.

And I was just in there just to check on the area anyhow, but that's what I discovered. So I took pictures of it that very day. So I have those pictures to compare it to when I actually got the carcass. And the cool part is, and I think they knew I was going to ask for this bear, is through one of the vertebrates on the neck, was a stick stuck through the vertebrae. It didn't fall that way because it's like, you know,

Let me get on here. Hard to get the camera. It takes a minute. It was like this far through the vertebrae. So if it fell, it shot right through this neck bone because it wouldn't go down this way. It had to be stuck through the vertebrae. And then another stick and guess what I had at the neck at X? And sorry, folks, I got to tell you.

One thing I really want to express to you and drive home as an X does not mean keep out when it comes to Sasquatches. Remember, they're very similar to us, but they're not. us. And their language is different than ours, but I am finding that all the X's that I find are a welcome sign. They're actually welcoming you to the

area. They know you're coming. And if you recognize that, it was meant for you. It was absolutely meant and put there for you. And so those are the places, if you want to go squatting, that's where you start. That's where you want to go.

But there was an X at the neck, because they already knew I was going to take it. They already knew I was going to ask and I asked them permission for it. You know, I asked for, just like when I took the photographs of the female, I asked permission. And I explained like I needed

to. She already knew what they were, knew what a photograph was, because like I said, they can look in your mind, they can get any information they want. And you can't hide anything from them. And don't try. It's not worth it. And I'm armed. They don't mind me being armed.

And the reason why is because they know it's not for them. And I have no intention of every firing at them and just piss them off. You know, me getting hit with a BB is like, now I'm mad. But I wasn't able to go up to the area

for a while. So I came back at seven weeks, Jeremiah. It had not been touched. That does not happen in nature. That's weird, man. That does not happen. when a deer or anything you find a roadkill.

Go back a week later. Tell me what's left of it. Yeah. Tell me what's left of it. Find pieces of it. You might find a few pieces here, maybe a rib bone here, maybe a leg bone over here. Your first sip should do more than simply start today. Choose vital proteins, marine collagen peptides, source from wild-caught cod.

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They go in, they take whatever they can of any meat and sinews that are left and, you know, any cartilages. And they've removed that. And that's what got my attention the second time of going up. there and finding the carcasses I came upon and I'm looking at feathers. Turkey vultures were there and they're kind of, I've always been one of my spirit guides because we're the ones that clean up the messes and that's always kind of in my forties and you know when it hits the fan I'm the one that helps make everything okay and figure everything out and stay calm and clear, clear everything up and so I'm picking up

feathers and I look down, that carcass is still there and it's untouched. There is not one, the only marks that were on it was from the turkey vulture picking at the joints and stuff and pulling some of the sinews up. I have the whole thing intact. There's been a couple rib bones fall off. I want, I'm maybe going to ask Mark Mersell because he's good at re-articulating bones because he works at the aquarium up there in Westport, Washington. and he's done whales and from small fish and amphibians all the way

up, you know, to an entire whale, which he did, took a couple years to do, but with the help of family, he got to have put together and it's at a museum up there. Because they have a museum and aquarium, all in the one thing. Right. And, but

Scott's going to be here. Scott's an anthropologist from Squatch America. Scott Violet, he's right now in Cave Junction. They've got a thing going on that's supposed to probably be happening today down there. And I think he's down there taking reports and everything. It's kind of like a town hall doing it saying. Him and Greg from Rogue Weather did one. And they were only expected maybe 100 people to show up.

And there was like three times that they showed up. Standing room only, and people were crass. And Cave Junction is kind of out in the middle of nowhere. It's just a connecting place. That's where you'll find the Oregon Caves, you know, and there's been lots of activity out there. There's some pretty famous stories that have happened right there at Oregon Caves. One, I think, was a doctor.

And matter of fact, I met him recently. So, but he was there with his family and was able to have a siding of a Sasquatch. but yeah it's kind of remote Cape Junction is but yeah they had the place was packed you couldn't have stuffed a couple more people in there with a stick yeah it was that packed he said we took lots of great reports and it was just a fabulous time so scott's over there doing another one today I was like Greg gonna be with you he said no not this time

he's like well if you want to come up I said I've got to work unfortunately well that's good is you know my day's off for like Monday, Tuesday during the week. And so when I off Monday, Tuesday, nobody else is out in the woods. You know, they're weekend warriors. So it makes it pretty convenient. I hardly ever run across to anybody out there. Even the hunting season last year, one vehicle, the entire hunting season.

That's all that I ran across, one vehicle. And because this area is grown up enough that it's really not good for deer hunting anymore. There's only one section, which is a prairie section of the top, that you could even see anything. So unless you know the mountain like I do, most people are what you call road hunters. They just drive around their vehicle. Something jumps out, well, they're going to shoot it. And unfortunately, when they're shooting it,

it's illegal the way they shoot it. Because you're not allowed to shoot from the road in this state. You know, you have to be such a distance off the road and everything else. And plus baiting animals is illegal here as well. And I've found pumpkins up there and watermelons and all kinds of things from poachers or people during hunting season baiting the animals. And they'll shoot them right on the roadway,

which is illegal. You know, me, I'm in the woods. And when these people drive by, guess what I do? I do the spider crawl. I'm on the ground. Let them go by. I don't want to get shot because I stopped hunting for the longest time because I got tired

to play and follow the beer cans. You know, I'm out of the woods. They're drinking. They have guns. I'm on, mind you. You know, I carry a 44 magnum here plus a rifle. You know, I carry a 30 out six. It'll reach out and touch someone from a long ways away.

Yeah. And the 44 is to disable their engine because I'm going to blow up your block. You know, you point your rifle at me. We got a problem. You scope me out, which is illegal. You know, that's what they made binoculars for. Not your rifle scope. Your rifle scope is to put it on an animal, get an accurate shot, and hopefully a kill on the first shot.

But, yeah, I'm more worried about the human factor out there in the woods than I am, anything else. Absolutely. I have no problems with bears. They're more afraid of you than you are of them. Matter of fact, I chased one down here last summer. Yeah, I'm nuts. But just to get a shot, a photo of him, all I got was is. bud in so unfortunately you know he's a little faster than the big boy here i've gained a little weight

but i've lost 35 pounds since then hey good for you that's awesome i'm looking better getting in good shape um i was at the pond one day and i'm sitting there which i've never heard my life with all the time i've been out in the woods meow are you kidding me is there a house cat out here i've never heard a cougar meow in my life are you serious and it was was a cougar and I was and it meowed about eight different times I had never heard it happened personally

and as soon as I got home I'm on the internet does a cougar meow and I found like three examples of it that somebody had recorded I went that's it I said are you kidding me they sound just like a house cat except a little more powerful but yeah I'm sitting there it's a pawn

and that gets me to another lesson that my clan taught me that day. I got one of those mindspeak things that day. I was on the other side. I hadn't made it down to that roadway yet. And I was kind of clear in my mind. I'm like, well, you know, I know the cheese squatchers. They're all friends and all the things that they do. They do a lot of remote viewing. So I'm going to start practicing that. It's right. Oh, excuse me. Rain, and I'm out on this landing and in an area where I don't have too much activity. And I was just enjoying the rain.

and I'd walked out on this landing and what kills me is all the garbage that people leave behind. And that's one good way to gain respect for the Sasquatch folks is to clean up. Clean up. Pack stuff out. Pick up the trash.

They see you doing this. They understand you doing this. But I was told while I was there and clearing my mind and everything out of the thought jumped in my head from them, go directly, to the spring. Okay, well, I didn't get to remote view, but I got a little telepathy there.

Okay, I guess I'll accept that. Okay. So I headed towards the spring and me with OCD school. I got to the dining room where I got the bearer and everything. And I had to stop. I got out. I made three steps from my van. And I turned around and went right back.

and strapped on my pistol, jacked a shell, and was locked and loaded. I think they were, first of all, testing my ability's to listen and take direction. Well,

I was halfway there before I saw the squirrel. But, yeah, I felt I was in danger. And so I was all prepared. And the way I go look at things, I go to an area,

and I spend 15 minutes looking at every little thing. I'm looking for changes. I'm looking for anything new. I'm looking for activity, fresh trails, anything of new, anything new. And then I'll take and I'll walk 50, 75 feet, and I do the same thing, 15 minutes. I look at everything that's there. And that's part of my way of, you know, looking, see if I'm finding recent activity. If I know they're there, have they been going down here?

But yeah, I made it up to the pond, and that's when I realized that they just taught me a lesson about listening. First of all, I'll go directly to the pond. Because if I had, they'd have probably been there and protected me from the cougar. But I think they also test me to see what my reaction would be to the cougar. Wellness looks different at every stage. The right support makes all the difference. Shake up your routine with vital proteins, collagen peptides. With 20 grams of collagen source from grass-fed pasture-raised bovine.

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so there's a lot of them up there and a lot of bear. And I have no problem with them. You know, you just look bigger than they are. You know, they actually never come after me or come to approach me. They'll just look at me and just continue on their way. You know, like I'm just, you know, another part of nature, which I try to be when I'm out there. And but after I heard the eight meows from this cougar as it was going across the pond by me, it was just out of my view.

But I know it was right at the back of the pond because how close the sound was. And then it's just started getting further and further away and still meowing as it's walking off. About 15 minutes later, I get the juvenile in the pop. And it was like 50 feet away from me. So I know it's the juvenile, JJ, because he's the bold one. Juveniles are very bold. They're very much jokers. They like to mess with you.

And I am the only human he knows, so he experiments on me. You know, so like infrasound, things like. wrong that line. You go, oh, I can make Bill really sick and make him throw up. Yeah. I was like, don't do that again, please. That was not cool. But anyways, I'll get into my six-sided, my last one. And this was September 13th of last year. And this was after I found the bear carcass. And a week after I picked up the bear, there was also a deer in the same spot. it was a young spike deer. And its lower jaw had been torn off.

Like a little twisted its head to do the twist. And the pelt was missing. And that's another thing that clicked in my mind is I've read several stories where they've seen them wearing a deer pelt. Maybe while they were hunting or to blend in. And I thought, you know, that pelt should be here. Nope. I found the entire carcass.

I found the skull to start. with and I walked down and I found the carcass and it was clean the same way the bear was. So I figured it was theirs you know and that's what they had done. And this one I decided to leave there. Matter of fact, I just took a picture the other day of some of the remnants

because on it not where it was left, the skull it was on a log close to probably 10 feet from where I found the bear of the jawbones right there and the upper and lower.

but that's all that was there, was just the upper and lower jawbows on a tree when it was left down below where the bear was killed. So this is from where the bear was killed than where I left that skull because I was going to maybe get the, you know, take the little horns for a little knife or something

because I use horns all the time. I do a lot of work. I make buttons and different things out of the deer horn. It was probably 25, maybe 30. feet away from where I left that skull and it was placed on top of a log. So there are too many people or too many things that pick things up and place them on top of things. So I took pictures of those.

And the funniest part is the first picture I took was blurry. And it looked clear in my camera, but it was blurry when I took for shot. I'm like, well, that's kind of weird. And that happened to me when I was with Tom Cantrell, because we, we, we, we, we, we, felt at two different spots that there was something there. There was a Sasquatch in the area

and kind of watching us. And I took a picture of this X and it was perfectly in focus when I snapped that thing but it came out blurry. I actually posted it last week. I go, well, here you go and you can tell they were present because it blurted and it shouldn't have blurred.

There was no reason for that to happen. But the second shot I took came out crisp and clear. But the first one I took when we were feeling that there was something there came out blurry. Because they're an high-energy being. You know, to do the things that they do, be able to cloak, it's about their energy is what I'm figuring. That's where you get into more things with Ron Morehead and the quantum physics, which I've always been interested in quantum physics.

You know, I love about all the smallest things and things like the, both Hickson molecule that they were calling the god molecule but what they don't understand is that's the smallest thing they've been able to come up with but what makes that up there's something even smaller that makes that up then what makes that up there's something smaller than that that's when you start looking at infinity and I don't even want to go there because when I start thinking about it it just screws my brain it just messes your head up yeah because you can't stop you can't stop it's an infinite loop uh But for months after that, I was going on the roadways, and I would just open my door and I'm getting out to look at a spot or something that I spotted, maybe a footprint, one footprint on a vertical bank.

Unfortunately, you can't cast it. Perfect toe marks, everything else. You know, it's where they, like, jump from the road up and leaped off that bank, hit that footprint and over the top, you know, to get up to the top. I was like, pretty impressive. And it was the juvenile. It was the size of his print. And his prints are up to 10 inches now. He's grown, and I think he's a little closer to six feet tall.

Because from the photograph that I took last year, which I thought he split. Because he was next to mama on the other side of the tree, just kind of hanging on this branch like this. You see his hair hanging down and everything. I said, well, I'm going to take a photograph. If it's okay, man, I take a photograph of you. He was gone. Oh, yeah. He split.

I'm like, and I called him out. sorry kids but I call him a chicken shit remember I talked to him just like I do my friends and family and I thought he'd bailed but actually here just a few weeks ago I really started looking at those pictures and blowing him up he's with her he's right behind her and he's leaning out

so that's why I want to have those photos in hand Scott's working on that make that happen for me but for like a month and a half leading up to that siding. I would open my door and I would hear Bill, in a very proper kind of librarian, female voice, that was just a proper but very ladylike voice.

And I'm like, I'm the only one out here. There are you no women running around the woods out here. You know, and I never correlated the word. Maybe that's a voice she's using for me until, you know, I had my siding with her. and this happened for about six weeks leading up to my sighting. And I would be out in the middle of the woods somewhere and I'd hear Bill and that lady like voice. I'm like, I really think this is driving me nuts. I said, this is, I think I need to have my sanity check because there's things happening out here.

I can't explain. And it's like I say, every time I get out there, I said, hey, Bill's here. and you know that didn't dawn on me that you know they're doing the same thing and going oh bill's here and she's saying bill and uh i think if i it had dawned on me i actually would have a sooner sighting with her so you know because i just sometimes i'm and i tell them and i relayed to them hey sometimes you got to put a billboard up for me because i got to see this you know i'm not understanding this, you know, because sometimes it just goes out of my head. I'm new to this.

Remember, you know? So sometimes you've got to, you know, make a billboard sign for me, for me to pay attention to what's really happening. And, God, this happened for weeks, and I thought I was going nuts. I'd tell Tom, because I keep in touch with him as much as possible. He's just, every time he's, go with it, Bill. Go with it. Just go with it.

Don't worry. It'll come together. So I'm up there one day And this was September 13th And I'm going up the road to where the asterisk is And that I did send you a picture of the big asterisk And there's a gravel pit before that Then you go on around

It's probably a few hundred yards And I'm looking And I've been noticing this bank And I've heard people say that When they go up a very steep incline They're like us They don't walk straight up it Because they can't

So you turn your foot sideways and do a side hill thing. Because when you do that side hill, you push that dirt down, and it gives you more surface area to hold on to. And if your foot slip, it just compacts the dirt underneath you. So you don't go very far,

you know, and you can get up that hill. And I'm looking at this spot, and I see a triangle going up. There's where they went up this way or where they went up this way. And it's not bare marks I'm looking at. I'm like, you know,

this is a fair size footwork. that's doing this and I don't think people are doing this because I'm the only one out here. You know, I rarely ever come across anybody out here. Even though it's very accessible, usually most of the locals just use it as a quick get over so they can avoid going to the freeway. They can come over to Medford. They can go visit friends that are over on this other side. And, you know, it's between two major rivers, which is another good thing.

There's lots of water. There's fish. You know, there's lots of food sources. I have seen elk. Actually, jack rabbits up there, which I had never seen before. There's a blue grouse, which are huge. They're the size of a chicken. Rough grouse, quail, just every kind of thing you can think of.

There's coyotes up there. There's, of course, cougar and bear. And the different amounts of different types of food that grow up there, all the different types of berries that are up there. aside from the huckleberries, the blueberries, the blackberries, black caps, marion berries are up there. There's just everything, lots of medicinal stuff as well. And from what I understand, I've been told that they're master herbalists.

You know, they've got to be able to. You know, it's not like the Saselots is going to go knock on a hospital tour when something happens. So they have to know how to take. care of themselves. And that's why I take them garlic. I'm feeling that, you know, garlic is a great healer. It's also a natural antibiotic. It's good for a lot of different issues. So I take them garlic and nothing else in the woods will take the garlic. Bears don't want nothing to do it. The deer don't want anything to do it. The birds don't touch it. You know, the only thing to eat garlic is bugs, you know, and it's a specific type of worm that'll get in there and eat it

and they don't eat much of it, you know, because it's pretty powerful. And the wild garlic that you find are these little tiny things, you know. I mean, you got five miles of stem, but you got this little tiny chunk. So I'm sure they really appreciate getting up there, and they got a clove that's half the size of my fist. They're like, yeah, we love you, Bill. But I'm looking at these sidesteps going up, and I'm trying to find toe prints, and I could make out kind of toe prints, and a few of them are going, oh, I heard about this, that, you know, when it's really steep, and this is a very steep section.

I wouldn't walk up it. There's no way. You put me on a rope, you know, and some gear. I will try to get up there. And I'm actually not in bad shape right now for being 59 years old. Your first sip should do more than simply start today. Choose vital proteins marine collagen peptides, source from wild-caught. With collagen peptides to help support healthy hair, skin, nails, bones, and joints,

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I'm better shape than I was a year ago. Like I said, I've dropped 35 pounds. I've bulked up by doing the job that I do. And running circles around the kids that we hire in because I've outlasted most of them. There's a few of us old guys on there. We make the kids look bad. Some will tell you, you know, I'm slow. but no I keep up with everything

but I was looking at these and then I heard pop and it couldn't have been more just off the side of the road on the other side couldn't have been more than 50 feet away and I holler out JJ I know your pop buddy you know I said how you doing my friend and I brought my guitar I had my guitar in there because I was going to sit up and I do that often sit on the mountain top and play my guitar

and play my music and so I went to the back of the band got my guitar out. Well, that allowed JJ and Mama, because I just call her Mama, to get across the road and get up to where they were where it's a tree.

And I played my guitar for about 45 minutes to them. And I look out, yeah, they're still there hanging out and it just seemed to be enjoying. I mean, they didn't throw anything at me, so I figured it was okay. You know, no tomatoes coming my way. And then I go up to the front of man and I start talking to them.

And, you know, I talk about everything. just like I would with anybody else, you know, catching up on a conversation. Talking about love, life, everything else, and, you know, how much things are going or, you know, things suck today or whatever's going on. And they just hung around. And I mentioned taking a photograph. And that's when JJ seemed to just bolt that instant. And I said, I'm going to do it on my phone.

I said, even the camera that has the, I tell them the nose that comes out, it won't hurt you. It's not a gun, you know. and I explained what an image was. I told him this is because I told them that our memories as human beings are fallible, especially the older we get. I said, and the thing about an image, which I remember,

and I've taken millions, I'm probably in a million and a half close to two million photographs that I've taken in my lifetime. Because I've always been efficient with a camera. I have old SLR 35 millimeter cameras put away because that's kind of the old thing. Try to find 35 millimeter. film anymore. Right. Now I'm looking at probably an EO7 right now that I'm wanting to buy that's going to have

manual and automatic on the adjustments. Because manual, I'm actually faster than the autos are as far as tuning things in because I did it for so long. But all I had with me, I did have my 4K hadn't come yet. It came like two days later. Oh, man. Yeah, I was like, man, I sure wish I had my 4K. I wish I had my 4K.

I wish it was here. So I got my cell phone a hand because I didn't want to scare him with my other camera. And I said, if you don't mind, I'll just take one with my cell phone here. But I explained to her, I said, a photograph is a moment captured in time that when we look back at it, it draws us right back to that moment for a reflection of what happened at that very moment. I recognize every picture I've ever taken. And I can tell you about the circumstance of what I was taken or what I was doing at that time, all the way back to my first photographs. Even though I've taken that many, you know, up to a million and a half, possibly two million.

Even my ex, she borrowed some of mine, well, she thought they were hers and posted them up on her Facebook. And I went, what are you doing, stealing my picture? She said, no, I took that picture. I said, I can prove to you I took that picture. Let me tell you what we were doing and what happened when I took that photograph. And I explained to her exactly what was going on. Yeah, well, maybe you did. I said, yes, I did take that photograph.

Matter of fact, it's on my computer. Which is like me to show you that one? I said, you stole it off by Facebook. But I asked her permission to take a photograph. And she allowed me to take two. And like I said, I didn't realize until, just probably a month and a half ago that JJ didn't split.

He was with her. Because I was looking at the photos and I'm going, boy, I see this kind of split. That's kind of odd. What is that back there? And I started blowing him up and I see, oh, JJ's in there, the juvenile. He's just kind of buyer and he's just kind of leaning out for mama.

And that's what I showed Scott when we're at Beachfoot. And he said, oh, yeah, let me take care of those for you. I said, yeah, check it out, send it to your friend and see if he can do anything. I said, the problem was it was taken from a cell phone. I said, it's very low as far as, you know, it's like 0.3, I think, megapixels. It's not much. I'll have to look it up and find out exactly what it is.

But I measured out that was exactly 68 feet away from her. After I took the photograph, I asked her to move up to, there's a giant Douglas fir just above her, just a couple feet above her, that's like eight feet through at the base. I said, why don't you and you go and be behind the tree there? I need to walk up and make sure there was no stump there. So make sure that this was actually you. I was taking a photograph up because they know my vision is not the best.

I've told them. I said so, and I can see where, and I have photographs where you can see where they stepped up the bank to be right where she was for me to take this photograph and that there was nothing there. also the previous I took two shots previous to this that was before the he did the pop there's a was a tree stump up there in the sun started shining through a hole that was in the stump and it was in the shape of a heart I'm going to print that up and send it to Arla because Arla collects heart so that's it arla this happened just minutes before my sighting

I said it was the coolest thing I looked up in wow there's a perfect heart that the sun is signing through it and it's all lit up this perfect heart in the middle of this tree stump. So that was kind of a cool anomaly. The next thing is I'm with the female and the juvenile. And that lasted. Matter of fact, I'm the one that actually stopped the sighting. So you guys know I got responsibilities that I take care of and I'm very adamant about taking care of my own responsibilities at home that I have somebody at home.

I need to get dinner to and take care of things. but it was an hour and a half that I spent with up chatting, playing my guitar and, you know, doing all these things. And I just had the time of my life. I love it. And I just crave the time that I can be with him. So it hasn't happened. Actually, it has. I was up camping.

We had some storms roll through here. And I decided I'm staying on the mountaintop that night. Matter of fact, I went up there earlier in the day. And I found in the snow. another short trackway. Mama and JJ's Prince, because I know them by the size. You know, hers is

14 and a half inches by four, a little over four inches wide. His are now 10 by just under four. It's like three and three quarters right in that neighborhood. And I went, oh, I've got the trackway. So I'm going to stay just

maybe 100 yards from there. And this is at the top of the amount. And so I drove all the way back to town got some camping gear. I picked up wood along the way all the way up the mountain. Somebody had left some stuff down at the pond, which kind of made me mad that they're even camping

up the spring. You know, there's a spot right across the road, right there. You can see the spring that's got a fire pit. You can camp there. All the animals drink for that water, you know, stay away from the spring. It just kind of obsessed me when people are up there.

Because there was a squatter up there that left an absolute mess. This is a cool story. This is a cool story, I'll tell you. They left their tent covering all this garbage. Half the stuff that was under the covered by the tent was probably stolen. People's photographs, everything else. I mean, it just upset me to see that there. Aside from that, the mess that they left behind.

And I was talking out, because I always talk out loud when I'm out there. I told you, if you come across me in the woods, you're going to think I'm nuts. You know, this guy's out here talking to himself, you know. talking about all kinds of weird stuff, you know. And I say, hi, I'm Bill, I'm here. Carrying on conversations by himself. No, I'm speaking to them specifically. Because I think it, not only think it, but I speak it.

Because mama and the juvenile are verbal. It's the alpha male that does the telepathy with me. They choose not to. They choose to verbalize. And this leads up to when I first heard JJ speak, which was just a few weeks ago. It was just last month. I stayed up there in the middle of a storm

and I filmed some of it from sitting inside my cab because I was waiting for a break in the storm to get all the wood out of the back of my van, you know, so I could lay down in there and get some sleep because I was exhausted. My days off, I just stay up. I don't go to bed, you know, until I just can't stand it no more of them,

you know, I'll lay down and go to sleep. Because I switched myself back onto a day thing because that's when everything happens. You can't get much done in the middle of the night. people get upset when you fire up a weed eater or something at 3 o'clock in the morning. I don't know why. But it's just not on my schedule. I don't know why.

There should be more people on my schedule. They should be comfortable with it. Oh, that's cool. He's blowing leaves at 3 a.m. Yeah, but for some reason, they get upset. So I switch myself to two days a week. That's why I don't sleep a lot because I screw up my sleep so badly. But, yeah, it's like...

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i was loving every minute of because i love that stuff i love nature you know i don't care what part of nature it is even the wild part i love it i've been in tornadoes i'm not the only thing i haven't been in is a hurricane you know i mean i've been down the south that way but i've never experienced a hurricane so that's probably about the only thing i've not i've been in thunder snowstorms two of them and that's the coolest thing in the world It's snowing, and when that lightning shoots out there, everything lights up like daytime. Yeah, it's after eight. But the next day, I start, I get to fire going.

I stoke up to fire, get it going good, and I walk up towards where the trackway was that I found. And I figured, you know, the rain's probably just decimated the snow that was there because it was just the most amazing down. pores that were coming down. And when I got back up to the snow track, I didn't walk up to it. I drove up to it a little while later, but it was still there. Most of the prints were still there. I was just blown away that it didn't get washed away or rained out. That was very odd.

But I get about halfway up there. I'm just walking up the road, just going on a little boring stroll, get my blood pumping. And I thought I saw a little bit of a structure on one side. And I kind of dismissed it, but there was an arch there that, that an old log was laid on top of and the tree that was arched was way too young for that log to have fallen on it because the log was actually placed there from somewhere else and I went oh okay well that part's probably real and maybe the I'm real critical when I look at these things you know I got to make sure that it wasn't from a it's not a deadfall it's not a windfall it's not a windfall it uh you know it was built this way could a person do this like I have a large arch structure that goes up about 35 feet high.

It's a big arch. The tree is probably 80, 90 feet long that's arched. And there's an X in it. And it's all compressed and held in place by the compression of these Xs in the middle, which there's no way in nature that that could happen. And my son got to see this. And he went from being on the fence about Bigfoot to going, uh,

wow, dad, because I just watched his face just kind of blink and drop and wanted him to really analyze this thing. And I'm pretty proud of it. He came to pretty much the exact same conclusions I have on. And I said, okay, how many do you think it took to build this thing? He said, well, at least three, Dad. He said, one had to be holding the arch down. The other one putting one of these pulse going up of the X forming. weaving it in and out of the trees to put it under compression.

And while another one is putting the second one up and doing the same thing, weaving in and out of the standing trees that are there and put it under compression. The old thing is holding that down is to compression and the pressure of the X. If you grab the end of that tree and shook that limb and probably do the Wiley Coyote thing and shoot you across the roadway. You know, because it's like a trap. I was like, man, I could put a noose here and set up. of this shit and you know I got it captured

because there's nothing holding it down it's just the compression of the accident's in the middle of it holding it in place in an arch really cool spot but anyways I spotted that piece and I'm like well you know I haven't had any activity I actually I got one pop the day before and they just do that to let me know well we're here

but we're probably not going to see it you know we got our own thing to do you know because they got a forage they're big creatures they got to eat you know and the time they take for me I feel real special especially it's 45 minutes or an hour and a half because that's taken away from their foraging time so I decided okay well I'm going to go back to camp stoke to fire up and stuff so I can't whistle with my mouth I never could do that so I use my fingers and I did I let out this really big whistle and when I did that seconds later I heard one of the pops It's come from just over the top of the hill towards where the tracks were. But, you know, just kind of crested over the hillside, I could tell, you know, that it was lower down. And I went, oh, okay. So I hollered out, hello!

And then, you know, headed back to camp. So I got back to camp. My van's parked close to where I had my campfire. And it's like 20 feet to the trees behind where I was, and everything else around me was tall timber. The picture that I sent you of me, you know, that was from that spot and that was from that time right there. Okay. That was that day. That's only been about six weeks ago.

That was the day after the storm rolled through. I was up there camping on top. And so you got me in the campfire right there. And I'm sitting there and I go over. I stoked a fire and get it all up and ready and everything. And I started cleaning up the whole area because the previous people that camped up there just left stuff strewed everywhere. So that's one of my things. I'm up there. I clean up. That's a respect thing for them.

You know, and they actually recognize that. And I'll get back to the camp, the transient of the spring here in a minute after this. But I'm sitting there and I'm going to relax, get back to the van. I look over and I see a tree shake, a bush. And I hear, hi. Sound like the voice of a young boy. It was JJ, the first time he ever vocalized to me. And he said, hi.

and I imagine he was probably cloaked, you know, because I didn't see him, but I can't dismiss that I heard him say hi. And that was it. So I'm, hi back. And I said, oh, I'll hang here for a while and see what happens. But, you know, like I said, they get into a busy foraging, so they don't always have time for me. So, but he came, let me know that they're there, which I thought was absolutely cool. but at the pond I

verbally of course I'm like I said I'm out there in the woods talking to myself I'm the neckcase walking around the woods talking to himself I told them I'll clean this up

next time I'm out here I'll clean up this mess you know and if you guys want that transient is like up the road here camped out somewhere else once you go scare the hell out of them

you know don't hurt them don't hurt them or anything but you know kind of scare the hell of them maybe teach them a lesson a little bit for leaving messes like this because this is the only water source within miles you know this is the place for those animals to come and drink and for somebody destroying and leaving such a disaster was just beyond me so the next time i came up there i brought a rake i brought bags and everything with every intention well

barely had been there by that time and must have happened just before i got there there was fresh scat and i mean first fresh and he had sprayed everything. And oh my God, I just wanted to hurl. This is just the worst musky, nasty, oh. You can smell a bear in the woods. And when you smell a bear, their spray smells the same way. And it's the heaviest nastiest musky kind of rotten garbage kind of smell you ever smell.

And when it's fresh in your face, it'll make you hurl. So I'm doing all I can do to keep from doing that. And I started cleaning up all that stuff. And I got a little cleaned up. I had to go up in the woods because the bear drug a bunch of stuff up. It hadn't been done that way before. The bear hadn't done any of that. And I could tell the bear had been there because of the teeth marks and the fresh scat.

And he probably just left and probably heard me coming. Actually, it was probably that close in time that he heard me coming up the road and exited the area. because everything was that fresh. Well, I choked myself down, got everything in the bags. As I was tying the last bag from four different areas, I could hear sticks tapping together like they were clapping for me, but using sticks to do it. And that was just the coolest thing in the world to happen.

I'm like, am I supposed to take a bow? You're welcome, you know, because I promised them I would do it. And I showed them that I would do it. So I think that gained a lot of trust. And I think anybody can do the same thing, you know, and have the contacts that I'm having, you know, if you've had more than a accidental road crossing, you know, that they've actually come to you to kind of get to know you.

There's a reason for it. They will snap a branch or do the pop, mouth pop. And it's not too scare you or anything, but it's to let you know they're there. simply start talking to them. That's all you've got to do. Start talking to them. Act like they're an old friend.

Hi, how you doing? I'm okay with you. I'm not here to hurt you. You know, I would love to see you, you know, and see what happens. It worked perfect for my partner that I'm teaching at work the first time. He had a large white Sasquatch step out in front of the trees and doing the little teacher's thing and, you know, basically saying hello. because he asked him to. I said, it's that simple.

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And I completely turned around and completely changed. And now I'm spending time with them. And each time is longer and longer. The first time was 45 minutes. and the second time was an hour and a half. And yes, folks, I crossed the road to the woo camp. I was flesh and blood, solid. I've never seen any weirdness happen.

None of this stuff has ever happened. You people are crazy. The more time you spend with them, the more stuff they allow you to see. And just go with it. It's okay. You know, you'll figure it out later. But it's the coolest thing in the world. It really is.

It is amazing. And it's just going to get. better and better. Thank you for sharing your story, Bill. It's very, very cool. I hope it was worth of wait. Definitely. A lot of listeners need to realize that a lot of these interviews, a lot of them

take a long time to set up and to wait for them to happen. So there's a lot of work that goes into it for sure, but it was worth it waiting to talk to you, Bill. How can people keep up to date with what's going on? or can they contact you if they have encounters to report in Oregon? The easiest way to find me is on Facebook. Okay, cool. I've actually pretty much kept a low profile until now,

and pretty much only the researchers knew who I was. Ken Garhart's like my little brother. You know, Alex, Doug Hichick, they all know who I am. You know, everybody knows. Adam Davies sent me an invite from, He was somewhere up in the Arctic somewhere. And when Adam sent me an invite, you know, to be on his friends list, Adam, Gwen, all of them, you know, the she squatchers, they're all good friends.

And they've known about a lot of my stuff. But I've kept a low profile because I didn't want to be public about things. But now it's kind of my clan is they're kind of pushing me. They want me to put their story out there because they want people to know that they're not so big, scary creature. So the easiest way, because I was a horse trainer for 20 years, and I was everything, completely natural horsemanship all the way. No force, no nothing. And I had an amazing result. What killed my business was the economy with the first crash when the housing market, everything went down.

My hay bales went from $2 a piece to $1850. Gas was over, that was the first time it shot over $4 a gallon. and I had to give everything up. I gave away a half million dollars worth of horses. Absolutely gave them away. And so you can find me under Mustang Bill. That's the easiest way to put in your search. It'll come up.

You'll see me. And I'm in Willow Creek with one of the famous Bigfoot statues. In Willow Creek, I went there for my birthday this year because I'd never been there. I was very, unfortunately, I was very disenfranchised. disappointed and how everything has degraded. It's still savable. If somebody, some entrepreneur went in and said, hey, you know, we're going to put the money out.

Let's fix this. We can stabilize all the wood carvings because that can all still be fixed. I'm a carpenter, so I know that can be fixed. And fix these places up because that's what put that place on the map with Sasquatch. No, ifs, ands, or butts. The only thing that's in good shape there is the hardware store. on the hardware store with all the Bigfoot's doing, working with the natives and everything.

That beautiful, iconic piece is pristine. It looks wonderful. They've done a great job. I went into the hardware store and check it out. Like, well, there's no Bigfoot stuff in here,

but it's all on the outside. Pretty cool. It's a really steep little hill to get up into there, too. But I went and checked everything out. Unfortunately, the bookstore, which I understand Stevens moving out of there. But I think a stiff one would probably blow it to the ground.

just a lot of stuff. Unfortunately, I couldn't go out to Bluff Creek itself because there was a big sinkhole that happened at the time. Just happened probably days before I got there. And so they had the road kind of blocked off. So I didn't make it out there. One of my next trips, because I have other people that are out there right now that are there at Bluff Creek and they're camping right now at this moment.

And it was some of the researchers I was just with. and which I love Beachfoot. You got to come, Jeremiah. Absolutely. You got to come. Come do interviews with all of us. I've had an invite for a few years. And so...

Get a hold of Todd and say, I want to go. Get your butt there. Bill, hold on. I'm going to talk to the listener for a second. Okay. Listener, here's the thing. I have these invites to go to places like Beachfoot, but I can't because, hey, nine to five, right? The cool thing is that there's the goal of going full-time with Bigfoot Society.

I'm 39% of the way there. Yeah, I saw that. Congratulations. Thank you. Listeners, if you want to jump on the train and help me get there, this gets me to places like Beachfoot where I can interview people in person and, like, it could happen someday. And he can write it off because it is part of the show. That's what makes me.

it happens, Jeremiah. That's what makes it happen. But someday I will get out there because I have to meet Kip, you know. He's so elusive. Yeah, he's elusive. He's the most elusive cryptid there is on the planet. Like I said, I've seen eight Sasquatches, zero Kip. Now I finally got one Kip.

And I actually have a photograph to prove it. Bill, it's been so much fun chatting with you. Mustang or Bill. That's what you can find out on Facebook. book. I've opened up. I have 400 fans now on there. Yeah, that's just from the book. And a matter of fact, people started

recognize me a couple years ago at Squatchfest. I was with Ken Gerhard. And Ken kind of looked at me like, because I was taken away from his glory at the time. They go, we recognize you. I went, you do? From what? I forgot that was even in the book.

Oh, that's funny. I went, oh, oh, from face to face. Oh, okay. Okay. This is what an amazing story. I said, well, you know, things have changed. I'll have to check that book out. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it was great. I'm glad we finally got to catch up. Maybe you'll have me again sometime and we'll talk about a little more of what's been going on in my area. You got it. Well, Bill, thanks so much for coming on. I appreciate it. Hey, we need it to almost three hours. 244.

Well, this is honestly a record and it would probably be a two-part episode. But thanks so much, Bill. All right, Jennifer. Have a great day. at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you

have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well-deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through and I appreciate every one of you listening. Your first sip should do more than simply start today.

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