Bigfoot Society - Sasquatch Grabbed the Camera: Allegheny Bigfoot Is Close!

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

What happens when a tech-savvy Bigfoot researcher builds a live surveillance network in the most active Sasquatch hotspots across North America? In this chilling episode, we reconnect with Logan Schoessow — creator of the Bigfoot Livestream app — for a stunning update on what he’s captured since his system went live. From an undisclosed location near Pennsylvania’s Allegheny Forest, Logan shares footage of a mysterious nine-foot figure caught up-close on infrared, strange heat signatures, jaw-dropping vocalizations, and a scream that shook him to his core. We also explore bizarre phenomena from Radium, British Columbia, including missing apples, gifts from unseen hands, and trailer-shaking encounters. This is more than just tech — it’s a war for proof. Whether you believe or not, something is watching... and now, it’s being watched back.You’ll hear about AI that hunts for Sasquatch, the screams that chilled a veteran researcher, and the property so haunted by creatures that the last owners left dishes in the sink and fled in the night.Resources:Search "Bigfoot Livestream App" on the Apple App Store and the Google Play Store.Referenced video - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.live.stre/video/7518918508093148447🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Logan Seshow is back with more information about the Bigfoot live stream app. and you're not going to want to miss this one. They've been capturing things around the U.S. and what they've been able to get themselves into in Pennsylvania is quite extraordinary. So sit back, relax, and stay with us as we catch up again with Logan Chesau.

All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Logan Chesau again. He's an individual. We talked back in, I believe, October. the 2024, this end of 2024 about his app, the Bigfoot live stream app, which is an interesting

project that he's got going on. A lot of really cool stuff pretty much looking for Bigfoot remotely all over the U.S. So we've got Logan back on to get an update about what he has uncovered since then.

And good stuff like that. So welcome to the show, How's it going today, man? It's going great. How are you doing, sir? Oh, I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Up in the attic doing interviews.

I love it. So, Logan, is there anything else that the, let's let's pretend, you know, it's a new listener who hasn't gone back to episode 557 and heard that first one? Any short things that people might need to know about you as well before we get into the updates? Sure. I'll try to make it a truncated, just a brief kind of overview here. Sure. So a lot of my field research has been up in Radium, British Columbia for the last, I guess, four to five years here. and that's kind of what got me started on building Bigfoot LiveStream app and trying to build a collaboration tool for researchers and enthusiasts, what have you.

So I think when we chatted back in October, we had the system up for a little bit, just in one location, around Radio and British Columbia. and we've gotten some decent amount of data for about three months, like just to kick off of it. And then we kind of went winterized for about, I don't know, four to five months there. And in the meantime, I've been doing some stuff and kind of grown things. But as far as the app itself, it's really,

just a tool an idea for people that are like I said Bigfoot, enthusiasts, researchers, people that want data-driven I guess architecture that can be reviewed and scrutinized by anyone. So it's kind of

an idea that came out of me having a lot of interactions up there and wanted to have, I guess, kind of share Bigfoot high frequency hot zones, high frequency, if you want to call them, habituation areas with the world and trying to grow that and collaborate with people and researchers that are active that have these spots and where we could get data, video, audio, a whole lot of data points in there as far as, you know, when is the most activity?

When do these beings come out the most? Is it during the full moon? Is it during the rainstorms? Parts of the country. I mean, there's tons of data to be collected, and that's just kind of just a handful of things. I'm kind of sorting and parsing through. But yeah, that's kind of the high-level. update kind of from October and I can start digging and giving you what's going to happen between

then and now. Absolutely. Before we do that, I do want to probably address something that's on new listeners' minds that haven't gone back to episode 557, which I'd really recommend you do, because they've heard the term radium in British Columbia and they're like, oh, is this a thing like headed up by Todd standing, is it is outside of that, correct? It's pretty much your own project, or what is the current status of that right now? So I do collaborate with Todd being up in that area because it is his kind of research area and I'm looking for those high-frequency spots. It's not, it's

really my project and I'm not just focusing on one researcher or one area. It's kind of a, and Canada abroad, at least for the time being, it could go over to Russia, maybe. But yeah, it's one of the sites that has three different streams up right now is in radium. I have other researchers I'm working with in Pennsylvania, an undisclosed location, and I'm still trying to grow the network and get more areas around Texas, Alabama, Georgia, California. This is the northwest region, Oregon, all those places. So it's kind of a, you know, people have their opinions of Todd.

I'm just trying to give all the data and let people make their own decisions. So that's kind of my stance. Absolutely. Thank you for addressing that for a few minutes. And it's, so what, what has happened since we last talked? Because I've kind of seen some stuff. And I'm thinking there's been some, some interesting things that have happened. I'm going to let you go ahead and let me share some things that, that you've learned along the way since late 2024.

I guess I'll kind of start where I left off as far as the architecture goes. and I'll try not to get too technical with it, but one of the things I've been trying to figure out is how to make things more reliable and off-grid and try to get those areas that are deep in the woods like obtainable to people without having direct AC power or power source that's on the grid. So I have basically solved that problem,

mostly on my own. I did do some outside consulting with some energy people that are good at what they do. That has been resolved for the most part. I'm still tweaking things. Everything can be optimized, but I have a solid footprint and proof of concept, and I have the proof of concept running, and I'm building two more units as we speak. So that's one kind of update.

So it's not just for a cabin with power out in the woods. It's for basically anywhere, national forests, remote locations. As long as they can get a clear signal to the sky, it's doable. Nothing's ever going to be perfect off-grid as far as, you know, if it rains a whole week straight and it's solar-driven and battery-driven, you know, it might have some downtime, right? But those are forces of nature that I can't solve. So that's kind of the architecture update. As far as app updates, in the off season, I really tried to work and reach out to a lot of people and try to find good researchers to work with, good hot activity sites.

So I had one slated for Alabama that kind of fell through. And at the very last second, I had two in the Northeast in the state of Pennsylvania pop up. And I had to really scramble to get that going as soon as possible. So I literally built two systems within like a week and a half and flew up there. I flew up there in April and set up two systems in April back-to-back, work with a team of people, a research team that have a hot zone up there. And it's kind of around the Allegheny Forest, both these sites are. So they're kind of private.

So it's, you know, I can kind of get general locations, but, you know, they've been having activity in this area for 10 plus years now and they're, and they've been on the fence. They were on the fence for a few months trying to figure out if they really wanted to do this and kind of put themselves out there a little bit more than they were doing with the research team out there. So finally, fortunately, we finally convinced them to, you know, to work with us and try to build some data. So right now, I've got four streams up there, and I'll also implement thermal into these feeds. So both, actually all three sites right now, two in Pennsylvania and one in British Columbia.

They all have a thermal feed going at the same time. So it's high in optical paired with a thermal. Thermal lens that actually streams 24-7 as well. And the thermal is actually programmed to follow heat, as well as the optical. So any kind of heat signatures, movement signatures, anything, these cameras are all high-end pen, tilt, zoom. So they will spin around 360 if they need to, but any kind of movement, they will try to follow it, track it, And it kind of helps my back-end architecture in a sense that if I do have movement, it's easier for me to program some of these things that are kind of already integrated into these cameras. So I don't know anyone out there that's kind of pushed it to that limit yet.

I know there's people using drones and thermal, like handheld. But I don't think anyone is really doing what I'm doing as far as have it live and also have it searchable. So I know I'm going deep in the architecture If you want me to pump the brakes And kind of get into some other things I can I can go that direction too I will say the other functionality that I think is important Is I have everything

I basically build a streaming service within this app So just think of it as For the last two weeks to four weeks you can review any footage you want from any of these streams. So they go in two-hour chunks, and it's all automated. So every two hours, you're going to get seven different outputs in that functionality within the app to where you can go and review all these chunks in time if you really wanted to.

If you thought you saw something, or if you wanted to review something from 3 a.m. in the morning, you can go directly to that. You don't have to watch it live. and you can report on anything that you find that the back-in architecture hasn't seen, right? So there's plenty of opportunity for people to go in and dig and collaborate and find things. I still use it. Like I said, the system's not perfect, right? Like there's opportunity to find heat signatures movement that my architecture

may or may not be able to pick up just because it's so subtle. or it's quick. So, yeah, I still need help. And at the end of the day, I still need eyes on things to have people, like, review footage and, like, talk about things they find and then help me so I can post all those findings within the app or post it to social media or whatever it is, right?

So I think that's important to note. And then another important thing as far as the architecture, Again, I'm talking high level here as much as I can, but it's complicated. But I do have machine learning and AI pipelines in the back that's actively grabbing all those chunks of data and sticking that into database back-ins and doing logging and review and marking spots. So you kind of think of it as a use some of these camera systems and they have those. event monitors. It's that, but it's more focused towards an algorithm that I'm building that's really focused more towards Bigfoot and not waving of trees or, you know, some kind of animal

or a car driving by, right? Yeah, absolutely. It's more human-oriented and heat signature-oriented and frequency-oriented. and amplitude as far as sound. So yeah, that's kind of in the background. So it's a big hot mess of work for me. I'm working on every day. And right now I'm doing all of it on my own as far as the programming goes

and the app. And really reaching out to people, there's a couple of folks I'm working with that are kind of on board and kind of enjoy the project and want it to grow. So I do have that, but as far as a lot of the, well, it just, you know, head down on the keyboard, it's pretty much me doing everything. So if anyone really wanted to get involved and help me, I'm open to it because I'm only one person. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP.

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I think you were getting to that point last time we talked about. Are you actually at that point where the AI can notify you and be like, hey, we've got something here? Yes, and it's, I'd say it's a little, it's like triple-threaded. It's looking for that. So it is gearing up to just be that model, right? But it's still in data collection mode to build the full model, if that makes sense. So it's, it is geared towards that, yes. So it is machine learning AI that's, basically.

basically me tweaking and revamping it based on the findings that we're getting. But as far as being done with the actual model and reproducible and I could share an actual model, it's not that all the way I need more data. Yeah, short answer is yeah. Gotcha. And I would guess you're going to, the way for you to get more data is you need more sites where you can have this system set up and then take more data. data in, is that right?

Yeah, the more sites, the better, the more people finding anomalies that I haven't found, the better. I mean, it's a kind of data that appears, so it's about just with seven streams, it's about four terabytes a month, maybe. And that's with the bit rate kind of scaled down a little bit just for the time being. If I max it up all the way to 4K on everything, I mean, it's kind of double. It's going to be like 8 terabytes of data. But I can't really pull.

I can't really do that unless I get, you know, real, a lot of more people engaged because, I mean, this is pretty much all on my dime at this point. That's what I'm kind of looking for the right people, the right involvement, people to really collaborate with me so I can like push this to the limit. And I've got other things in the back end doing as far as like better technology and working with some folks in the government and working with LiDAR, working with thermal drone. All these things are rolling around in the back of my head on things that we could do here. Gotcha. So these are ideas you have.

You're not saying you're actually working with someone in the government, but potential in the future. I've reached out to people and I've got I've got some spec sheets in front of me that would work and I've got the right contacts. I just need some of the equipment is super pricey. So $20,000 for one high-end 4K level X thermal that they use for the Department of Agriculture, for instance, right? So I could really get the clarity like 10 times better on the thermal just by implementing that.

But, you know, I just, I need to find the resources. So I don't have like a Kickstarter or anything. Like I said, it's all pretty much just me kind of trying to fund this. I've thought about doing some crowdfunding, but I just haven't got there yet. Yes, it's pretty much. So do you and the support from the, access to the app, correct? Yep.

Yep. Yeah. Wow. That's, that's, it's extremely daunting that you're, you're taking all this on yourself. It's, it's very, very, very cool. You had mentioned that you also, there was frequency involved with things you were looking into for the AI model. Can you go a little bit more into that, like what you mean when you say frequency?

So, associate that's really into, uh, and I've got some other people that are really into looking at audio. They put recorders out everywhere, and they're really using that as a source of truth and evidence. So a lot of the frequency is between a certain, like, hertz that they're looking for in the signal on the spectrum. So when they find, like, howls and calls and, like, even, like, far off. returns. A lot of it based on what people are giving me is within a certain range. So I'm trying to dial things in to be like start in that range and kind of look in that range based on evidence of the people have given me. But at the same time, I'm trying to do it on level of

magnitude and amplitude because there's some really high amplitude like actual tree knocks or whatever you want to call them power knocks they sound like shotguns to be honest with you sounds like somebody's shooting a gun so i'm really looking for those uh parts in the algorithm um and like i said it's it's a work in progress right like once we zone in on that maybe we'll find some different sets of data would then go search in different uh zones but like there's certain uh frequencies like for birds right You can tell just looking at the visual if you're looking at a program and you're looking at the sound spikes, like when there's a bird call, it's kind of in the higher range. And a lot of times when it's a big foot oriented, you know, you can say it's potential, but a lot of it seems to be kind of substantiated from my point.

They're kind of in the lower range, so kind of focusing on that. Absolutely. Are you able to dial in and look specifically for, like, hypothetically, 20 to 40 hertz? I can do any of that. That's awesome. I've tried to do all the research on the coding that I could to make it as optimal as possible. So I can go tweak it. It's just a new commit on the code and change it if we want to change it.

but I've kind of dialed in as far as the coding goes on that machine learning pipeline, like what I think we need to start, where we need to start at. I gave it some Wobo. Logan's just been cut off for the second time in this interview. My stuff is just going absolutely bonkers. I'm going to try to call them back right now. Both times it's like all of a sudden I hear it and it just gets totally cut off. All right.

And pauses. Hey, Logan, you there? Yep. Can you hear me? Yeah, sorry about it. I've shut down all other electronics on my desk, so I don't know if there was some weird, like, interference there or something. It was like my Bluetooth was just getting, like, shut off.

So, okay, so, yeah, we were just talking about some really interesting stuff, which was that you're able to dial it in for 20 to 40 hertz, which to break that down for listeners that aren't on the same, I guess, wavelength, kind of. That's pretty much when you're able to look for infrasound, right? Yep. Yep. There's infrasound there, and then there's a little bit, like a lot of the, I'd say, if you're getting like a whatever, the Ohio hell or callback that's in the distance,

you know, maybe a mile away. somewhere between 600 to 1,000. It's kind of, I'm kind of staying in that range a bit, but yeah, it's kind of multifaceted in that sense. And there's some other off-the-shelf products, audio recorders that have found that are trying to do infra,

kind of infra stuff and some bad stuff and some weird things. But, yeah, It's all over the place. That's extremely interesting. Have you had any luck getting any of that captured, or it's still in the dialing in process? No, dialing it in.

So the other thing is, depending on where you put the system, like I have one system that's almost like a natural creek, bumpy area. So it's a challenge to clean up some stuff and to not have interference on some of these locations. But the one out in Brady on British Columbia, I think that's like just so, so remote is a really good test bed for audio in capturing that because even though like, so some of these systems, like you can hear a little bit of ambient almost mechanical.

noise from the camera sometimes. But as far as just absolute quietness, it is pristine because most of the time, you're not even hearing bugs on there. It is just dead silent, and it is like

having the best opportunity for capturing something like that. Gotcha. Since that time late 20, have you captured any interesting things

through your systems on these sites that you've been able to partner with? Yeah, I've captured a few things. I finally, I went to Radyam to go set up the off-grid system and the direct current all non-AC-based system there

in June. So that one's still going. They've had a lot of rain here this week, so I'm still working with Todd to get another battery and just to cover some of the magnitude of rain they had. But I've had some interesting findings in the Allegheny place for sure. Some interesting audio out of radium and some heat signatures out of radium, some heat signatures out of Allegheny, some Bigfoot Grimlins out of Allegheny that I don't

know what to do with it. I think I posted so I posted this one. I think it's on the app and it's on Instagram I'm not at I'm really bad at social media. I need to get better at it to be fair if I kind of want to grow this.

But I think I do have a YouTube and Instagram and a Facebook and I I just started doing some TikTok stuff. I've been trying to stay away from it for a long time just because personally I tried not to go zombie mode on that stuff, but I kind of need it to grow things. But there was this instance about a week after setting up the system in Allegheny to where the camera is about nine feet in the air off this metal and wood apparatus

that was built by another researcher to help mount it. And it's kind of scanning the tree line there on the back end of this property. And whatever it was, I had the IR on to begin with. Right now I'm doing test bedding and turning the IR off fully and just using ambient light and moonlight and stuff like that just to see the differences on like activity versus IR on and off. but that first week of IR on when we set it up something crossed directly in front of the camera

and again this is nine feet tall and it went back and forth and it's not like level ground in front of it it's kind of like a little hilly ditch there and a tree stump like kind of in the mix it's like a sawed-down tree stump and there's no way for me to even touch that camera without getting on a ladder.

But whatever it was, it crossed in front of it, it gave like, the word thing is is I don't know what to do with it, and I posted it in a few different places and talked about it. And I haven't really got any real good feedback as what it is besides people saying all that's not,

you know, it's not anything. It's somebody like playing with you. But there's like this head that comes into the picture. It looks like the back of the head almost or the back of the head and neck. It's so close

to the IR, like to get that close to the IR light, you have to be right up on it almost to block the entire thing, the entire lens. You'd have to be all the way up to it completely. And this thing blocks it and the

refraction from the IR light turns it and it whites it out, right? So it's so close to the IR that it whites it out completely and it's a like the first of it looks kind of like the back of the head like I'm saying and then it goes it kind of goes back and forth in front of this camera like

it's like super like I slowed it down but if you do it at regular speed it's really quick and it lasts for about 25 seconds where it goes back and forth and blocks the camera and at once in the frame it's so close that you can see it almost not looks like a textured skin.

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And then after it goes by, there's almost like a suture or a stitch on whatever, like I said, I'm not dependent on what this is. I'm just saying it's interesting. But it looks like a suture or a stitch on the skin of whatever this is. You see it in two different frames of the imagery. And I've reached out to people. And I've tried to, people say, well, it's someone wearing a hoodie. And they got on a ladder and they went back and forth in front of your lens.

And that stitch is a stitch from clothing. So I went out and did my own testing with it since I had my lab. I put a hoodie on and did that and I did it with various other objects like football or baseball, you know, things that have like clear stitches and see what it would look like in the IRA or nothing. The texture of a hoodie and the texture of clowning doesn't match. The texture of, you know, just athletic stitches and stuff like that. I've tried some other stuff, but I just can't find a solid match to what it is. If you really look at the evidence and actually try to recreate it, I haven't been able to say that is that.

And I don't understand how it would be nine feet up in the air and only be a portion of it. So it really didn't make any sense to me. Like I tried to debunk it my own and I haven't debunked it. And I can't figure out. Like, you can see, like, a ridge of, like, the outline has a texture of some kind of buzz or hair. But it's not like matted hair or anything, right? It's not something you would think of, hey, that's a big foot, the back of a big foot. It's got, you know, four or five inches of hair all over it.

So, again, I don't really know what it is. I've been in debate since this site is so active, and they actually leave things all around the property. If it wasn't, you know, the back of the head of a, you know, a big foot, maybe it was something they were waving in front of the camera since it was new to them. And maybe it wasn't in that inanimate object that I don't know what it was. But still, I don't know what would be waving that nine feet in the air. I like blocking the air and going back and forth for 25 seconds. So it's really intriguing.

like I said, that site is, I can give you backstories to that site, but it's been really highly active for at least 10 years now, and the property owners are just learned to deal with it. And they're really nice people, and they're kind of assimilated to it now, but like they leave items all over that place. there's for instance they left these huge boulders all over their property they've left chickens all around that place with their heads off there's dogs that go missing in those woods and they come up to that property and look for these dogs and as a recent like five different dogs have been missing there and they they slap their house I'd say at least twice a week they'll go up and slap and bang on their house like really fast and just knock pictures off the wall even they hit the house so hard and it's not just the property owners that experience it there's teams of people that go out there and and see these things and they see orbs there was an orb there when i was there to go do the system for instance uh and that and again i'm trying to give you a a multitude of things that happened just in alleghany but um like the very first uh few days

there when we brought the system up and I started kind of putting it to the back end and doing the recording there was this and this was like the very first night even the property owner was using the app and they're up all night anyway with

they have their own their own kind of problems but they really enjoy looking at it and they captured some still heat signatures before I actually had the system actually set up to recordfully of an actual bigfoot like heat signatures there and it's it looks like a classic big foot with a you know kind of that stature it's probably 30 40 50 feet in the distance

in the tree line and you can kind of see the even the the the backside of it it looks like he has a large rear end right um i'm saying he i don't know if it's a he or she but um so I had a whole other system, a whole other camera that I've, this is where the Wu comes in. I've had this other system there for audio and another camera that we ran 300 feet of cat cable out into the woods, the power of these thing. And every single time I stood it up and the system, like stood that camera up when I was there. it would not turn on

actually took the whole ring apart and tried to debug it and then I would take it into the garage and plug it in everything the same and it would turn on and I'd go out into the woods and plug it in it wouldn't turn on

and I was getting so so irritated with it I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn on why it won't come on and then I ran out of time so I had to take it home and do testing with it

and there's absolutely zero wrong with it I ran it for three months straight when I took it home of no problems. And then I sent a brand new one up there to a researcher since I already had it all laid out for them just to go plug it in, right? So they spent a day doing the same song and dance that I did to where it would work. They'd take it out in the woods. Wouldn't work. It wouldn't turn on. These cameras are...

I've been over Ethernet because that's how I designed the architecture to not have a power cord. 300 foot cables and this is the same link and they're working just fine no problems and we swap cables out we smoke cameras out and I can't get this deep wood camera action to work in the location we want it and that's just kind of one of those blue things that I haven't figured out yet I don't understand it so I still have to go back out there figure out a location that will work and set up another camera. So it is difficult, though, to keep people's privacy and to live stream at the same time and not give away areas or, you know, anything like that. So we're thinking about creative ways to do that without like giving away locations or like getting into their own lives. So right now

it's a tree-line view of the area that's hot that goes back and forth for them. But it's pretty intriguing. And that one's ongoing. I'm capturing a lot of heat signatures out of there. They have... I captured... So we set up a side camera inside the garage that doesn't go to live stream because it kind of points to the stamp fire.

And what the property owners said at that campfire all the time. so I don't really want them on camera. It gets some sounds from that camera that sound like, I don't know what you want to call it, but it was like a growl almost, like three different grunt growls, and then the animals in the area kind of run off, and then it kind of dissipates.

I don't know what to make of it. So I'm trying to be not trying to hide things from these individuals. At the same time, trying to do different things and explore what works and what doesn't. So, yeah, there's more to come at that site. The other one has a lot, a lot of animals and stuff rolling through and bears and deer and eagles and beavers and all these different things. So even if you didn't see a big foot there, you're going to see tons of animals, especially at night that are roaming through there.

I've gotten so many hundreds of different clips of heat signatures and follow. and it auto zooms in and kind of searches out where it came from and everything. So if you're just kind of a nature enthusiast. That one I haven't caught as much data on, the more wildlife. But it is in a crow's distance flight of this other place, and it's still a zone of activity over there. So yeah, that's kind of the update as far as the Pennsylvania sites. So that site sounds absolutely incredible.

Have there been actual visual sightings at that location? Yes. Wow. The research team, the property owner actually sees them frequently. They're looking through her windows all the time, to be fair. And they actually, this is the amazing part. They leave their handprints all over their cars and their windows, and it leaves the white sebum all over the place.

So that white residue that researchers talk about. It's all over. The handprints are unique. It's almost like the thumb has turned up more like an ape. Like it's not out, it's up. And recently there was like a smaller, it seems like, juvenile that did it recently in the last few days. But they actually pull those prints off. The researchers up there will pull those prints off like with a CSI kit.

Don't ask me questions about that because I am not a fingerprint expert. And these people, they know what they're doing. And I don't. But I've seen what they've done and it seems like they're doing it the right way and they're trying to send it to folks like Doug Hichick and other people that can get things to university labs. But if you just run the fingerprints, a cursory check on those fingerprints. And so you put it into some of these, you know, chat CBT, and the LLM's out there and to say,

hey, is this, what can you tell me about this fingerprint, right? Most of the time when you put those into it, it'll say it's not a standard thumbprint. It's not a thing, like the, you know, the, whatever they're called, they're too far apart. It has all these weird inconsistencies. And like I said, I can't go off that alone, but it is interesting how it doesn't seem like a normal print.

of a normal human being and they put up, there's a researcher out there, oddly enough, his name is Todd, so I work a lot of Todd, but he's done a lot of analysis on the fingerprint and he collects a lot of that trace evidence there. So they've, even when we showed up, we showed up in this kind of this printer van with another person and I kind of stayed there that first night. Like while we were at the campfire, someone saw something some movement over there by the cars when we went over there and there's a huge handprint right like on the on top of the sprint van that we just drove up like hours ago right so i don't understand like i'm still trying to figure out how they are just so elusive and sneaky without people noticing like i haven't figured that out that site is um it's a really really good level to try to put high-end equipment out and try to capture something. And it's only been a few months, right?

Like, you can't expect something to happen like every single day, right? It's consistency that gets your results. So we're going to put more stuff out there and more cameras. I'm just going to get back out there, but it's the other researchers there, they've seen them out in the woods. they've seen the glowing eyes they came up right upon them there's there's a handful of different accounts I can think up up the top and then there's probably a hundred others that I don't know

about they have tried to put out game cams like they put out you know the the movement cams and it kind of stuck them in weird places and they tried to catch them off guard and they really haven't came up with much on that about now we're trying to do the non-game camera action and set up thermal and set up, you know, my system. And eventually it'll be more perimeter base around the house when, you know, if the property owner is okay with it. But it's definitely a work in progress there. And it's definitely like a really good base site.

That's still pretty much off-grid. There don't have a lot of neighbors. And like I said, it backed up to the, forest and they don't you know they're elderly and they're private and they'll tell you this really quick so when they moved into this house they got a really good deal on it because the people that were there before them basically bought it stayed stayed there a week and left and they left all of their stuff in the house and the and the dishes in the sink so I don't know if that tells you anything, but whatever it was, they got out of their quick. The

property owner was walking the tree line just before, probably about a month before, I set the system up out there around Easter. And with her grandchildren, and they looked up and said, you know, grandma, look at that. There's an eighth right there, right? And it was, she looks up and just sees an individual in front of her. And she's seen them a lot. but the grandkids have never seen anything like that. So they didn't know how to describe it. Oh, hey, there's a big eighth over there. What is it doing?

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the chances of you capturing like the next PG film or something I would say is so high. You have so many like visuals. It's just maybe it just takes them long enough to get used to your setup and I don't know

man. I got a feeling that you're going to get some crazy stuff out of there. You already are getting weird stuff out of there is just going to get crazier and like what's the what's the plan And currently, if, like, you do get the next, you know, you capture the next, you know, PG film using your setup on this property. Like, where do you go from there?

I mean, it's, it's trying to get everyone else to, like, look at all the evidence and say that it's real, you know, it's going to be uphill battle. But if I can give them, hey, here's 24 hours or, I don't, here's 30 days worth of footage. here's the blip where it happened. I have the before or the after everything. I have, you know, here's what I've used. Here's the architecture. There's the history. And, you know, if you want to look at raw footage,

you can look at raw footage. If you want to look at something, right, that's what people aren't really doing. They're not given the whole picture. They're given this three-second clip of, you know, a video of them looking at something in the woods. And there's no backstory. there's no anything to it, and they're posting it to social media where you pretty much

fan just say that's fake, right? Or you say that's just a red circle in the woods, it's not anything. And I'm sure there's some people out there with real footage. It's just hard to find. It's hard to parse through. So I'm trying to be credible enough to have people actually say, hey, this is an incredible source to start with. And then after that, I really don't know.

like I'm just trying to get to step one and then step two, hopefully if we can get a good amount of evidence or video that's substantial, you know, maybe we can bring it and get some research grant in or something or bring in some third party reviewers from, you know, a Jeff Meldromish kind of person from a college grant. You know, they actually go sit out there for months at a time, right? I don't really know where it goes other than I kind of. I just want to prove that it's real. And then keep going and figure out how these things stick and how they work. And because I think in my head, this is a real, this is real, right? I know other people are on the fence. All the experiences I've had, this is a real phenomenon, whatever you want to call it. These are real creatures, real beings, real people. It's really important for us to do this discovery and, like,

say this is something real, even if it flips the paradigm of a lot of people on their head. So that's kind of why I do it other than it's just super cool to me. Yeah, that's kind of my thought. That's exciting stuff, Logan. You're definitely on the right path. You said there were some updates regarding radium as well. Yeah, so actually when I talked to you, I don't remember. I'd have to go back and listen to what we talked about, but,

When I was out there in October with a few individuals, we had, and this is on the app, and as far as what I capture in an audio and video, and then there's more to it now. So we had this experience back in October, I guess, I can't remember if I talked to you about it or not, be fair. But we had these individuals come out, and like it was two in the afternoon. afternoon. We had five of these weird whoop sounds that were nothing like I've ever heard before. And it surrounded our base camp, like from every angle. It went one than the other than the other than the other. And they all made that sound right after two minutes before that. I have all the time stamp. This large owl in the distance. I couldn't say how far it was.

Let's just say for giggles, it was a mile away. And then that was kind of too many. it's after the response back with all those loops around us. So we went out into the woods, I'd say at the most, 150 yards from base camp. And right now, where we went, it's probably 50 yards where I have a thermal camera set up that's looking down this trail side and the optical. But we went out and set out there, and it was me. and Todd standing and then two other individuals who were kind of in a grid pattern. We're all spread out just sitting out there after that

because we heard all those sounds and we're like, okay, well, maybe they're calling us to go out there and meet and greet. So that's what we did. We kind of sat out there and meditated, whatever you want to call it, post it up on a tree and look, I'm starting to see if we had any interaction.

God has this video to where he posted on his channel to where I'm not going to lie It doesn't look good It looks like a blob squatch It looks blurry It's not definitive It's not good evidence right

And I mean I told them that It's like yeah I believe them at the time Like I don't have a reason Not to believe them But at the same time It's just not good evidence And he posted it

I don't know some A few months back But actually I think he posted Back in February But at the same time, we were filming with cell phones and cameras, body cams. And the individual I was with was just calling Bill. When Todd started talking, he said something, what he said was, I can see you. And he said it loudly.

And I looked over at him and he was filming in front of him. And he's probably 60 feet from me. Bill was probably 40 feet to the left of Todd. And there was another guy named Billy about probably 30 feet behind Bill. And they were spread out in the woods. And again, there's no one else out in these woods, right? It's just us. There was another individual at base camp that was elderly.

He's probably 73, 74 years old that didn't want to go out just because, you know, he's a little older and didn't want to help out there. So what Bill did was he scanned the Forest Lion, right? right when Todd said that in front of them. And I posted this out there to, like I said, to my socials, and I've done some, I've been zooming in and contrast and some of that stuff with it. But you see after Todd says that, Bill's, and this is about 70 feet in front of them, it's dark-haired. I think it's probably a juvenile somewhere between 8, 11 years old, just speculating.

But actually, you can't even see. see it until it moves. It is so camouflized in the tree line and it moves, right as it moves. You see its hairy leg, right? You see its foot, you see its upper torso. You kind of see the outline of its head through the tree branches as it

moves. It's not like a face definitive, but it's this dark-haired, almost black-haired individual that's going from middle of the screen to the left and stepping out in between these trees and walking as Bill's scanning and he's getting up, right? So as Todd's saying, he's filming something in front of him, 30 feet to the left of what he's filming

is another big foot that Bill captures. And it's, in my opinion, it's super, super good evidence, right? And I know people are going to look and say, oh, this is coming out of Todd's camp, you know, this isn't anything. I don't know to tell you that. It's legitimate footage and nobody gets, like I haven't seen good footage in a long time.

And that footage, it's on a, I think it's from an iPhone. And it's pretty clear that there is this individual right there supremely camouflaged walking mid-screen to left. And I see pans from right to left

because he didn't even see it. It was so camouflaged. He didn't see it until he reviewed the footage. And this was, actually a month or so later that he discovered they even had the footage of this, right? He didn't even know. So to me, it's like just another point of data that substantiates that something was happening when Todd saying I can see you. And from my perspective, again, speculation, there was at least four to five of these

from very much actually around us and we couldn't see them but they could see us and they were just gliding through the forest just messing with us

and like I said it's out there I can send it to you I can send you the upscaled version that zooms in and then I have a video that does it

on the back end it gives you just a regular output so you can see it but yeah it's 70 feet in front of bill it's moving It's maybe six feet tall at the most. We need to do some more breakdown and do some video analysis.

And I think I can probably do, like Bill really wants to try to remove the trees from the video and try to do things with it. But I'm going to do my best to give it a shot to make it as clear as possible. But it's amazing footage, right? Wow. That's really incredible. And again, this is 50 yards away from where the camera I just set up in this tree. We scaled this tree on this trail that looks down what we call a porcupine trail like 20 feet. And we've mounted this camera that's thermal and optical there that scans and looks down both into this trail.

And it can slip around and look at Base Camp 2 and look at the other camera itself. So if something's behind the other camera, I can see it. saying it's skeptical and thermal. So it's just a matter of time before we get something there. It seems like they're having a really good year as far as amount of activity

they've had. When I went out there, I don't know how long you want this podcast to me, but I had experiences out there when I went out there just to set up the camera. The video that you were just talking about, is that on Todd's channel or you would have to send that to me?

No, I... Um, it's on, let me see, because I've been debating when to like just, because it's not my footage. So I got permission from bail. I got permission from bail. He's kind of a real big, big foot enthusiast, but he's a private person. He doesn't want any spotlight, right? I get it. Um, so I got permission from Bill to release it a couple weeks ago.

Oh, okay. So I haven't really put it out there into the full frame, you know. Reddit, like, just dumped it into everything. But I think I put it on Instagram, and I made a TikTok and put it out there. And just try to do like a promo type of video for my app, just to try to get people more interested in get community going. So, to me, it's a great advertising tool because it's real. And anyone that says it's not, I can prove it to them and it's real. but at the same time, it's amazing footage, and it just, it's, I can send it to you.

I can just send you like what I have, like a full-fledged copy of it. You can check it out and tell me what you think. That sounds great. And we'll link it, definitely. I'll have a few links in the show notes for this, too, or the description. Yeah, so we've got, I mean, the time has been flying by. We've got about 10 minutes left, but it sounds like you, you may have even some of, other things that happen to you when you were last out in Radium?

Yeah, so we have this gifting area, or I say we, but I consider myself part of kind of that collaboration up in Radium. But there's this gifting area that apples are put out at every time there's an expedition. So when I've been in the last three, four years, it's kind of hit and mess. They kind of take them when they want to. this year they've taken them every single time like I was there the first night I got there at 7 p.m. at night we put apples out we put three apples out I was out there

with two other individuals that went out with that I was while I was doing some of the setup and we set up there and just set and put three apples out once for each of us we put them high and there's news anything as for as any for, you know, chewing or anything, squirrels deer, whatever you want to call it. But, like, there was no sign of that.

And after we put the apples out, I'd say 30 minutes post, we got three callbacks, three kind of triangulated around us. And they were just kind of like yells or whoops, whatever you want to call them. I won't try to do it because I'll just butcher it. But we had three whoops around us. And you kind of took that at the time being for saying, hey, thanks for the apples. There's three of us. And we took all your stuff, right?

So when we go back up there in the morning, and this is, again, we put it out 9 o'clock in that we wake up kind of early and go over there and they're all gone. So we had some good feedback there. And then ever since then, all the expeditions starting in May to the end of July, they've taken every single apple they put out there and they put them high they put them 20 feet in air on the edge of these tree branch sticks where they're just forced into it you can't get them out um we've seen where squirrels will take bites out of them and stuff and we'll just like those instances we know it's not you know anything but a animal chew an honor or a bird pecking at it so we'll just throw those away and there's no trace evidence of any of these apples even there's no core there's no anything they're just gone right so So that's pretty amazing because there's a lot of that going on. When they did a lot of scouting in the area, there's tons of new tree breaks all over the place. They found some fresh footprints in the general sun area.

And they've been having activity like just frequent, like at least three or four times different things. So I think if you probably want to know more on that, you could just probably go to Todd's channel and kind of see what he's been saying. I won't get into everything. But as far as for me, we had that callback. We had the apples. And then most people there, they don't do what I do as far as, you can call it recklessness or courage. I don't know what you want to call it.

But it is bear country there. It's mountain lions, black bear, grizzly bear. And after I set the camera up, I said it, it was pretty much a full moon that, that night and I put it in I put all my systems to turn the hour off and do low mode and just do it off the moonlight um so I can make I can make these systems with their iris and their shutter look like daytime in the night now if there's moon right so I don't need IR and it's it's really clear and it looks amazing um so we're debunking the iron thing as we speak but um the I slept out there in front of that camera about 30 feet in front of it in this opening with another individual. I can't say it's not creepy, and I can't say there's not some level of fear doing that, because 99% of the people that go out there don't do that.

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while we were over there in front of the camera. I ended up getting up at 6.30 in the morning because I needed to warm my body because I didn't know I was going to get that cold. So I kind of talked to the guy I was with and you can see all this. If you really wanted to go to it, I'd give you the exact date.

You can watch me sleep in front of this camera because the video is still there. It's on the app. You can watch me get up. You can watch me walk away. But I walk away and I go down past base camp probably two football fields away into this clear opening that's kind of lower an elevation on the other side of the ridge line that surrounds it. This is where we found a 19-inch track.

And I kind of, I sat there with, and I did have a shotgun with me because, you know, I don't want to get, eaten by a bear and that's the only reason they take it with me but um i kind of set with my back up to the wood line um kind of given them uh you know some kind of my inkling to come behind me because i'm not looking in that direction and in front of me is more of a open filled for like 50 feet than it goes into another woodline so i kind of had my back directly to this woodline and um i'm sitting there You know, and I'm not super into the woo stuff. But, you know, I'll give it a shot. I put some mental thought process into the world and say, you know, I'm here, come play, right?

Come out. So I'm putting that mental imagery out. I'm sitting there and I'm just, like I said, on the ground kind of Indian style and with my legs. And all I hear is the ground shake behind me, right? So just like two big stomps. And I felt it in my body that the ground was shaking, right? And before I could even get up, this individual just does a scream at me, right? And just because I'm going to butcher this, but it was more of like, oh, right?

And it was loud, and I felt it. and I kind of got up somewhat quickly, but not like super quick as you think I would because I didn't know what would be behind me when I did it. And I turned around and spin around and it's hard to see what I'm looking at. You know, there's trees everywhere, but about 30 feet in, there's something looking at me and it's gray. I can't quite get, catch what it is. Like, I can't say, all I can see is the outline and whatever, the, whatever, the, air fur was gray, right? And it was staring at me, and it hits this tree with what it looks to be

his arm and bangs on the tree and just kind of disappears and steps back into the darkness of the foliage, right? And this is about 7 in the morning, so the sun's kind of just on the horizon. So it's so kind of dark in that wooded part because the sun's not directly hitting it. So again, I can't see fully, but I believe this was a Bigfoot that yelled at, stomped on the ground twice, yelled at me. I don't know why. Maybe he says I was asking for it. I don't know. And then it kind of dissipated into the forest and then I kind of grabbed my, you did bring the body cam with me.

I wasn't wearing it at the time just because I was filling myself all night with the other camera. And I was just going out and doing my own thing. But I pulled out my cell phone and started scanning the woods. I built it in a 360 or 180 degree angle. So I'd just capture what I experienced and where it was. And then I walked back in there and there's this clear tree break, probably five feet from where this individual was behind this tree. And I'm just looking on the ground, looking for, you know, trace evidence and stuff.

And I don't see anything. I don't see footprints or anything. but that's, you know, you don't always find footprints. I don't, I was making sure I wasn't crazy. You know, maybe this is a huge elk or something. I was trying to look for tracks and stuff. I'm trying to roll out, you know, in my head that this is what I saw and what I heard and when I felt. And then I'm kind of, I kind of just sit there for a while and then I hear two knocks kind of northeast of me.

and they were subtle and then I didn't really know what to do if they were gone or wanted to, I mean to stay there so I kind of just went back into that open field

and sat in a different spot and put my back against the woods again and just closed my eyes and I was just thinking about stuff and then I get two big huge animals and it's to my right I guess it would be

um east of with me and it was probably up this hillside. I guess I might maybe 100 yards up this hillside. So I didn't really know what to do with it. I knew they were around me. I knew this individual yelled at me. So I just sat there for 30 minutes until I didn't hear anything happening.

And then kind of just grabbed my stuff and the shotgun. I went back up to the base camp and went and kind of told Todd what happened. and the other people I was with. And, you know, Todd's seen enough of this where pretty much all he says is congratulations. So, you know, it is what it is, right? So I'm getting closer and closer to having that one-on-one experience that I want. And I'm trying to put the energy out there. If this is real or not, I don't know.

I'm going at this at all different angles because the cameras I put up, I can make it to where nothing can. get the base camp without being on camera or I can make it to where they have a clear way in right so I mean to get into the fact that you make it with a clear way in if they want to come in the base camp if they want to go in front of the cameras they will I don't think these individuals are stupid I think they know intention and thought process and they could more than likely see these cameras in the trees so that's kind of my my sense and sensibility of the thing is that I do plan on doing more out there.

I thought about putting the thermal further down the road towards the hill where the apples are taken. I just don't want to stop the activity fully. So eventually we'll probably get to that point to where we'll probably have another thermal, like two end of that site, to where we're going more of an 180 on a thermal. but yeah there's so much stuff there's I'm calming through all the event data

there's lots of weird sounds um lots of weird knocks there's bears that are rolling through there that we've captured um so and this one's really only been up

for like a month right it took two or three months of the first data for the first data to actually get um like some really good hit marks and um like and they and they they went beside the trailer they've shook in the trailer this year they've uh we captured some audio of it's like sounds like heavy breathing grunts right beside the trailer at night with other audio recorders where the camera wasn't even

faced that direction so again it's it's tricky like people have been trying to do this for years now, but I'm trying to get it right and trying to share it with everyone, right? Absolutely. Yeah, that's kind of the update from Radium. So I expect it to be very, very busy soon. I'm trying to get another panel, solar panel out there and another battery I've already paid for it all.

It's kind of a pain in the butt to get things in Canada through customs. So there's that aspect, but yeah, it's just going to get better from my perspective. And then I'm reaching out to a lot of other researchers, trying to get them to collaborate with me. It's hard to win people over, especially if they're in the camp of I hate Todd and you work with Todd. It is what it is, right? I'm just following the data and if people can't, if they just have a closed mind to begin with. and, you know, to meet their own, but there are the, a lot of the original Bigfooter people that just really despise Todd and they, they won't even let me talk to them, right? And I'm not even, I'm not Todd, right? So I'm just like, okay, well, you're lost and I'm going to keep going forward with other people that are doing research. So, so, yeah, it's a work in progress. And, Logan, I'd say you're doing some fantastic work. I mean, you're working.

working through everything you're getting some great sites you're getting hooked up with and I can't wait to see what comes out of Pennsylvania. Do you mind in the last minutes reminding people how they can reach out to you about this project, how they can fall along and watch the video for themselves, all that good stuff? Sure. I think the easiest way to reach out to me and you don't have to subscribe to the app is just download the app. I have a contact info on there. There's social media links right at the bottom. So if you really just want to check it out and look at it and look at the precursor of kind of the background and stuff, with the login screen, you can just get to me from there.

It's on Android. It's on iOS. It's called Bigfoot LiveStream. I will have a website set up sooner or later. I'm kind of a new age in that sense to where I don't know why I need a website, but because I'm kind of a technology guy. And if I can get to it on an app, I'd rather get to it on an app. But I will have a website. I'll just get one built and put it out there into the world.

But you can, I did, I did create a TikTok. I think it's like bigfoot.live. That the other socials are on the app. I just haven't added a TikTok to it yet. So YouTube, there's Facebook and Instagram. But as far as email goes, contact at bigfoot live stream.org. Just send me an email if you have, you know, ideas or collaboration stuff or a site or honestly, just, I'm open just to ideas or feedback or criticism of how we're doing stuff, right?

Because there's always better ways to do things. There's a lot of people with a lot of great ideas, so I'm not shut off to any of that. So, and then let me think, if there's anything else here. Oh, I do have a form on the app where you can go just like a web form. If you have an area of frequency, it'll shoot me an email after you fill a form out. I'll get in touch with you. If you feel that you want to do that. I'm trying to, it's not set in stone.

but I am actively trying to do like kind of a live event with kind of a big name and Bigfoot. I respect him a lot. It's like I said, it's not set in stone yet. It's one of the more respected people in the field and, you know, he's pretty honest and it's full of integrity. So I really love to work with him and kind of collaborate with him. him and try to build something with him on the side here. But like I said, not setting stone, just stuff that's going on in the mix. Great, great stuff, Logan.

The future is looking very bright for you and your project. I'm sure we'll definitely be in touch. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Again, it has been a pleasure chatting with you today, Logan. I appreciate it. Good stuff. Just want to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Huge thanks to Logan Chesell for sharing up.

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