Bigfoot Society - Sasquatch of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

Welcome to this exciting episode of Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we are joined by Alex, a retired Salvation Army Pastor who served Klowack on Prince of Wales Island in south-east Alaska from 2010-2012.Join us as we delve into the fascinating topic of the intense belief in Sasquatch that all the people on this island have. Alex sheds light on why the people of this island hold this belief so strongly.Alex shares his personal Bigfoot encounter that occurred in Alaska and his albino Bigfoot sighting that happened when he was a young child in Hood River, Oregon.We also explore the intriguing topic of a certain aggressive tribe of Sasquatch on the island and how it has affected the rest of my Bigfoot Society career.So tune in and join us for an exciting journey into the world of Sasquatch on Prince of Wales Island.Resources:To read more stories of Bigfoot on Prince of Wales Island, check out the following book:Raincoast Sasquatch by Robert J Alleyhttps://amzn.to/3M1AYz5 (Affiliate Link)---If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a Bigfoot encounter that you've been dying to share? Look no further than Bigfoot Society! Simply email us at [e-mail] to learn more.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!

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and eat you and a lot of natives believe that that particular tribe of Bigfoot are responsible for people disappearing in like national forests. Welcome back to Bigfoot Society. In this episode, we talked to Alex, a retired Salvation Army pastor who served in Kloak, Alaska, on Prince of Wales Island. Why are the Sasquatch so much more aggressive on Prince of Wales Island?

And what did Alex see in his window that one night as a seven-year-old? Find out this and more on this episode of Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of chatting with Alex, and Alex is a retired Salvation Army pastor that served in Alaska. How are you doing tonight, Alex? Doing well yourself. Oh, I'm doing great, just hanging out on a nice Iowa night. Alex, how are you doing?

just enjoying this Montana weather. It's a little cold, a little bit snowy out here, but it's nice. Oh, you know, I've talked to a few from Montana, and I know we're not talking about Montana tonight, but, man, there's some crazy Montana Bigfoot things happening. It's wild state. I've heard some stuff. I've heard a couple stories from, and I've had the privilege to meet a few of the Crow and Cheyenne people. and I've had a chance to chat with them about Bigfoot. And I've heard some pretty crazy stories about it.

But tonight, Alex, we are here to first chat about, so I met you on TikTok for a little bit of context. And you've had some interesting things happen during your time in Alaska and also some interesting things you've heard as well. And I would love to have you share those with my listeners tonight, if you don't mind. I don't mind. Let's just get started. I went to the Salvation Army there.

I was stationed there. I was a pastor. I would be what you would call a lay pastor, which in their rank, the Salvation Army has quasi-arming ranks. So like the officers are called captains or lie-tentants or majors, and I as a lay pastor wasn't one of those, so I would have been called an envoy. so that would have been my title. But I ran the Kloch Church from June of 2010 to June of 2012. And the really crazy part is when I first went there, I didn't know anything about Southeast Alaska.

I didn't know anything about Prince of Wales Island where Klawok is located. to walk in Prince of Wales are about three hours by ferry south of Ketchikan, southeast of Ketchikan, and they are about 45 minutes by plane. And the only way to get out to the island is either by a ferry, boat, or plane. So when I got off the boat, I met the captains who were leaving. They were the ones who'd been running the church the past few years. and they were leaving and moving on to Rangel, Alaska. As soon as I got in the van, the captain, without knowing me or knowing anything,

says to me, he said, Alex, let me tell you something. He said that this is something you'll need to know. He said that the people here take Bigfoot very seriously, like dead serious. He said, they'll talk to you about Bigfoot. If you make fun of Bigfoot or if you make light of it, He said, you'll offend people in the community, and he said you'll never, you will have a really hard time in this community. It'll cause hard feelings. Never knew this guy.

Never met him. Never discussed Bigfoot. Didn't know anything about anything. And the instant I get in the van, that's the first thing he tells me. He said that these folks are really serious about Bigfoot here on Prince of Wales. and so I just thought that was crazy right from the gate, you know, because generally if you walk up to someone you've never met and tell them that, you know, Bigfoot is real and that the people in the local area take Bigfoot very seriously, you might get one of two responses. Well, okay. Or, you know, something a lot of skeptics will be derisive.

They'll be nasty or negative or make sarcastic. comments. And Captain Ron said, very clearly, don't do that here. And he said, if they talk to you about Bigfoot, just smile, listen to what they say, and just say thank you for letting me know and don't blow it off. So that was my introduction to Bigfoot on Prince of Wales Island. I knew Bigfoot was real because I had an experience with it when I was a kid. I actually saw one looking in my window was an albino Bigfoot back in 1978 in the river

Oregon so I knew Bigfoot was real. They didn't have to tell me about it. But Captain Ron didn't know me from Adam, didn't know anything about Bigfoot, didn't know about, you know, my history with Bigfoot. But so I learned right away that the people on Prince of Wales are the people that I interacted with were the clinket, the Haida, and the Simshian, and there were even some U-PIC folks, and U-PIC are my tribe. My father, on my father's side, his mother was U-PIC-Alaska native. As I was going along there and doing my duties in the Salvation Army, I had people sharing reports

with me and things like that. But one of the things that particularly impressed me about them, is I was told by one of their culture bearers. Now, I don't have permission to use her name, so I won't. But she told me their stories about Bigfoot. And they believe in the Clinket tribe, at least in Clowoc, I don't know about the Clinket tribe in general, because I had very limited interactions with clinkets from outside of Colok.

That they believe that Bigfoot led their people to what is now Clowoc. and that it showed them how to hunt and that Bigfoot showed them how to live on the island. And so they actually have Bigfoot in their family history. Really? In their clan history. One of the tribes in particular, especially the one this one was with,

if I tried to pronounce her tribal name, I would completely slaughter it, so I'm really not going to try to. But suffice it to say, say that Bigfoot is a part of that tribe and it's in the name of their tribe, their particular tribe in the Klinckett Nation. And so I thought that was very interesting. I really didn't meet anybody in Kloch or Prince of Wales who hadn't either had a sighting directly or knew someone in their immediate family who had a sighting. And I talked to

many different people out there. And the clinkets now on Clorak, there's a bit of a thing because a lot of people think that this Kushika is a big foot. Now, from what I was told by a tribal elder from Saxman, which is in Ketchikan,

he said that the Kushtikaa is like a, is like the skinwalker. It's an evil spirit of shape shifter. And in clinket, Kushtika means land otter man. Exactly. And so it's very interesting.

But according to Captain Joe and some of the elders from, when we had celebration in Kloak one year, they had a gathering of the other flinkets from around southeast Alaska. And they all came and they were saying that the tribal elders from several of the different areas like in, you know, Juneau and some of the other cities around in southeast Alaska, like Sitka and some of the other places. They said the Kushtika is not a big foot. They said it's an evil spirit or a spirit, and it can be benevolent or harmful depending on its feelings at the time. But they said it's not biological. It's never been human. And it doesn't have

children, it doesn't reproduce, and it doesn't, you know, propagate or do anything that the Bigfoot do. And so anyway, now the folks in the Walk do call Bigfoot Kushtikaa, and they believe that Kushtikaa is Bigfoot, but I know in, I know in, like I said, meeting with the other tribal elders, they felt differently about it. So I'll just say that it is what it is. But that was the understanding that I had from different folks. The funny thing, though, about this Kushika, though, is this tribal elder from Saxman told me that they're always seen with orbs and spiritual phenomenon.

And they are the things that people see that travel interdimensionally. And he said that they can appear as Bigfoot. they can take on the form of Bigfoot. But he said they're not Bigfoot's. And he said that he feels, and this was his opinion, that a lot of the people who see like, quote unquote, UFOs or orbs or other spiritual phenomenon with Bigfoot are actually seeing a shapeshifter. And that's what he said, because he said that's what the Cush to Cuccah.

is. So, and again, whether that's true or not, I don't know. I'm not a clinket. I don't speak for them. I can only tell you what their tribal elders told me. Alex, I've got a quick question for you. That is extremely fascinating. And not a, I was not expecting any of that at all.

When you said spiritual phenomenon, right? Or phenomena. You said, orbs and spiritual phenomena. what else would fall into that category? One person related to me a sighting of this Kushika in Ketchikan. And they said that it hit you've seen the movie Predator, right? Sure.

How the Predator goes invisible. They said it did that. Really? The Kushika. The Kushtika. Wow. And they said that it looks. like a part otter, part man is what they said.

But they said it shifted into like a fish and jumped into the water like a salmon, like a really large salmon and jumped into the water. And but they said that it had orbs floating around it. And it said that they, the orbs were glowing different colors. And I think that actually, and I'm not saying all you, UFO phenomenon, but I think some of the UFO phenomenon associated with Bigfoot are actually these spiritual orbs that these shapeshippers are able to manifest.

And my understanding is they can actually travel in between dimensions is what they tell me. So I think that when people see a Bigfoot that's traveling interdimensionally, I don't think that's a Bigfoot. And it's not only them that say that. I've talked to Navajo, Zunis, Hopis, Sue, I've talked to Crow, I've talked to Cheyenne, I've talked to Yutes. I know as a Yupic person, we have a legend of the Amakuk, which is the same type of creature. It's also associated with spiritual phenomenon like orbs, appearing and disappearing. like you would follow the footprints of it, for example,

and it would go in a straight line, and it would travel for so long, and then it would just stop, and it has nowhere to go. Have you ever been in talk to any individuals by the Uinta Basin part of Utah? I have, not to my knowledge. No, I have not.

That's the Skinwalker Ranch. Just a random thing I wanted to, throw in there just in case. But it's just very interesting to me about all these different things. But like the actual Bigfoot in Prince of Wales are different here than I think in the lower 48 because they, now I've heard of Bigfoot doing this in other places, but I've never actually seen it personally in Cloack and in Heideberg and and Cassan and Thorn Bay and Whale Pass and Kauffman Cove and some of the other cities on Prince of Wales.

They've actually been witnessed by locals, the bigfoot, the real bigfoot, not the Cushita Ka. The actual, honest-to-god Sasquatch. They've been observed pulling trees up by the roots out of the ground that are like alive, pulling them out of the ground. and then turning them upside down and shoving them like three to four feet into the ground with the roots facing up toward the sky. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages.

And the Plinket Elders told me they do that to mark their territory. And that if you see that, you know that's their territory and you're supposed to leave and not go around there because they said if you do, they'll get really aggressive with you. On this episode of Plant Killers, explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer.

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20% of $025 dollars in the moment of the firm and deposit of They'll like throw rocks, they'll throw sticks, but if you don't leave, then there's actually been reports of them like grabbing a hold of people and throwing them against trees and hurting them and stuff like that. Incredible reports from people who were like police officers, former military, you know, people who aren't known in the community to be liars, hoaxers, or storytellers.

They don't use drugs or alcohol. they're not mentally incapacitated or ill. They're just people who saw something really crazy that they couldn't explain. How many toes do the big foot have on each foot in that area? Do you know? The track I saw had five. Okay. Do you know if there's any, is it talked about in that area of certain individuals?

I've heard of four foot or four toes. I've heard of a little. I've heard of a four-toed big foot. Okay, so you know what I'm talking about. I do. I also heard they were reddish in color. Yep. And they were smaller than the regular Bigfoot.

And they were like way more aggressive. Is what I was. So Alex, this is wild. This is wild. Yeah, they are hyper, hyper aggressive. They are actually called cannibal. If they catch you in the forest,

they will kill you and eat you. And a lot of natives believe that that particular tribe of Bigfoot are responsible for people disappearing in like national forests and stuff like that in Alaska. And it's just, it's really, really interesting stuff. And by, it's really funny because science is always saying there's no evidence for Bigfoot and things like that. And yet you have native tribes who I personally interacted with in Canada, like the Ojibwa.

and others, and you would, you know, some of the other First Nations and in Canada, who are geographically separated from, you know, these other natives than like the South, southwest of the U.S.,

like in the Navajo and like Arizona and New Mexico and places like that. And yet they have the same legends of the same creatures. And they have them right alongside eagle, bear, you know, horse, beaver, you know, scorpion, snake.

And, you know, they're actually reporting on creatures that they see in real life. To the two natives, Bigfoot, is as real as you and I. And, you know, they're always, they're always like, they always think it's funny the natives I've talked to because I'll talk to them about Bigfoot and they're like oh the white man believes in that now huh

you know it's like we've been knowing about that for years this is old news to us we're we're dealing with this for years yeah they're like these white scientists come around here looking for Bigfoot and we tell them they're stupid and I'm like okay why and they said because if Bigfoot wants to find you he'll find you you don't find Bigfoot, he finds you, you know, and stuff like that.

So I know the clinkist told their kids to stay out of the forest unless they're together and to be careful when they're walking in the woods, to use the buddy system and to make sure that they're always watching the area that they live in, especially if those those weird red reddish colored hair colored saskwatch are running around so Alex the crazy thing is is that and I have to be really careful about what I say but I talk to a lot of people and all the things you said about those those four-toed big I've heard from at least one other person in another state, not Alaska. And it's not just like, you are absolutely right

because I've heard this same almost details told that they happen even down to pulling up the tree by the roots and putting it upside down. And that's all I can say right now. It's just incredible how your story had so many similarities. Do you think that four-toed tribe is in different states or just in the Pacific Northwest? I think they emigrated across the Lambearing Strait Land Bridge, the same as the other Bigfoot's. I'm almost wondering, based on the descriptions that people have given me, if maybe they're not some throwback to the orangutan or something.

some of the people I've heard describe them in a way that almost makes them sound like orangutans and it's also interesting because a lot of people they think orangutans are these you know common peaceful apes and yet orangutans

will grab a hold of you know other animals rip them apart and eat them you know even their own young so you know that's that's just the thing is that I've heard a lot of bad reports and from what I understand this, that red-haired tribe, I know there was some tribe, I was talking to a guy who was Hoopa, and he said there's OMA, Oma, or Oma, and he said that means the boss of the woods, like the boss, the king of the woods, the owner of the woods, the leader of the woods, whatever.

he said the omas are different than those guys and he said that the omah will leave you alone if you leave them alone the other guys the four toes um and he had a name for them but i do not i could not pronounce it i'm very sorry i i guess my linguistic skills are a little weird but um he pronounced it and my my ear and my mouth just could not my brain in my mouth could not coordinate to form the words. No problem. If any listeners know of that name, feel free to send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.

So much stuff I learned in Clowoc, and then there's my own siting. And Clowoc, I didn't actually have a personal siting because I was distracted during the event that happened. If you want, I'll get into my siting real quick. Oh, absolutely. And we can get other stuff. after if you like or not.

Sure. Okay. My brother Morgan and my sister Tara, my brother Morgan passed away three years ago. I really wish that he was still alive because he could tell you like what he saw and some of the stuff he observed that I didn't observe during the event. But what happened was we were going up Big Saul Road,

Big Salt Lake Road, that's a road that leads from, from Clowoc to Thorn Bay or to Coffman Cove. If you go right, you go to Thorn Bay. If you go left, you go to Coffman Cove. So I turned left on Prince of Wales Island Road, and we were heading towards Coffman Cove, which is where we were going to go and visit.

It's really pretty out there. There's a pebble beach, and it's really nice, and I wanted to take my brother and sister up here and show it to them. and so anyway we get about a quarter of a mile half a mile or so up up the road uh prince of wales island road and my brother's diabetic so he's like Alex can you stop I got to use the rest room and so I'm looking for a place to pull off and I see what it looked like it was either like an old logging road or something um I'm not sure but it was like it looked like at one time it had been a logging road

but it hadn't been used in a while. And so we pulled off into there, and he gets out, and he's urinating. And then he comes back around the corner, and he goes, hey, Alex, come here. And I'm like, what, man, it's cold. You know, it's April. It's cold. There's snow on the ground. I don't want to get out.

You know, but he's like, come here. You need to look at this. And so I'm like, okay. And I get out. And he calls me over. I walk over to him and in a snowbank there were three tracks and the tracks were about I'd say roughly about five feet apart and they were in a straight line which is weird you know because when people walk they walk you know side by side with their feet you know what I mean these look like somebody

who was balancing on a tight rope or something it was weird but there was three tracks and they were in the snow. The ground was hard. So it didn't leave like, it did leave an impression, but it didn't leave like a deep impression. The tracks were about, I have,

I wear a size 14, triple E, and these were a couple inches longer than mine. So I'd say about a 16 or a 17, and its feet were wider than mine. Somebody asked me about how, how big I thought it was. And I'll tell you what, I am not a math person, okay? Math is actually my worst subject. So I say, well, I think they're about three or four inches. When I told Morgan that, he was like, you idiot. And I was like, he was like, those things were like six, seven inches

apart, man, and they were six, seven inches wide. He was like, they're not three to four inches, you idiot, you know, and he was fussing at me. So that's one of the reasons why I was glad he was there, because I have a real problem with like looking at something and reckoning how big it is, you know, and he doesn't. Morgan is very mathematical. He, you know, was very logical and factual. And so he, I guess, the shoe was a 16 or a 7. It would have been, if it were wearing shoes, the foot would have been like a 16 or a 17. And it was wider than my triple E.

and so we're looking at it and we're like Morgan had pictures of it but unfortunately when he passed away the pictures were lost and I don't have any photos left of them but the other part was we got chased out before we could do any measurement or anything because he was like he told me he said why don't you do that big foot stream you do and so I did it and I'm not going to do it right now

because it would like blow our audio out. But it's just a basic screen. I did that. And then about 20, 30, 10, 10, 20, 30, I don't know, seconds later, something grabs a hold of a big old tree and start shaking that sucker back and forth. It was whipping it back and forth. And that was a good-sized tree.

Whatever was grabbing a hold of that tree, it was monstrously strong, monstrously strong. And then, like we start hearing like, you know, branches breaking and stuff like that. And then off to my right, I'd say about 10 or 20 feet away, I hear a, and then again, it goes, real loud and aggressive just like that scared the livin piss out of me and whatever vocalization that thing was doing I could feel it in my body it resonated in my body you know what I mean and it was like I was like we need to get the hell out of here now and then so we all jump in the van get out of there and I had straight back to the church.

I'm done. You know, I saw a big foot when I was a kid. You know, it would be interesting to see another one, but let's not and say we did, right? But when we get back, Morgan tells me he actually saw one peeking its head out from behind the tree. He said it had a very large head. He said it had, it was black. The skin on the face was black and the hair was black. and it had like brownish eyes.

And he said, you saw it for about a second or two and it popped back behind the tree. And he said it was probably about seven day feet off the ground where the head was. And that's pretty much the experience we had with that. Now, I went back and I talked to one of the clinket elders. His name is Al Jackson. And I actually do have permission to use his name. On Prince of Wales, they call him Mr. Bigfoot. Whenever anybody in any of the tribes has a Bigfoot sighting, they go and tell Al Jackson about it.

Anyway, he was featured on the show Monsters and Mysteries in Alaska. They actually interviewed him for that. That was, I don't remember what year that was, was 2011, 2012, 2010. I can't remember. But anyway, he was on that show, and they interviewed him, and he took him up there. up on Clowoc Mountain where those upside-down trees are. And he showed the guy, and the guy actually took pictures of him and videoed him. And the thing that's weird about those trees on Clowoc,

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But, like, if you see those and you're out in the forest in, in, in, uh, near, near, walk mountain if you see those or around Kloak or Hydeburg, if you see those trees you're supposed to leave the area and not go near there. You're not supposed to hunt there. You're not supposed to fish there and you're not supposed to go around there.

And the elders also said that if you see a big foot out there, they said don't look them in the face because they take it like you're trying to challenge them. And they said don't look at the eye. Look down to your right or your left. And they said just back

way slowly. And there's just so many stories I heard about Bigfoot. It's just crazy. I mean, I never met a people who were so open to share their culture and their stories and their traditions with an outsider to their tribe. Because they would just tell you stuff. I mean, and they didn't like try to hide it or, you know, it wasn't. They had stories that they wouldn't tell people, obviously.

But like if it was about Bigfoot or about their clans or their totems or, you know, the stuff they believe in spiritually, they tell you all about it. You know, we had a lady who was a culture bearer who was a good friend of my wife and I. We used to go over there and listen to her tell tales about their creation stories. And it's kind of funny because their stories are very similar to other tribal stories I've heard about creation. Do those stories have anything to do with Bigfoot? Absolutely. Really? Mm-hmm.

He's one of the big feet, one of the big people in their belief system. I don't want to say mythology because it's actually real. They actually talk about stuff that they really observe about nature. now, you know, people will take it or believe it or disbelieve it. To a skeptic, everything's a dude in a suit or, you know, a misidentified black bear or brown bear or something like that. Because to a skeptic, no amount of evidence other than a physical body will, even if you brought them a physical body, they might not accept it as evidence. You know, they might say, oh, people just made that. up that's stupid. To a person who really doesn't want to hear the subject, there's nothing you can say to

convince them. But to a skeptic, everything's a dude in the suit. And I told a skeptic one time, I told him, I said, so if everybody's a dude in the suit, you're telling me that these, there's some society of hoaxers who've been jumping out on Native Americans since time and Memorial here in North America, Alaska, China, Russia, Asia, you know, Australia. You know, there's a society of hoaxers around the world who are wearing suits and jumping out in monkey suits and scaring people for the last thousand, two thousand, three thousand, however many years. You know what I mean?

I said either that's what you're saying it has to be. or there is actually a real living creature that's out there right now today, roaming the forests of different countries around the world, and people are seeing it, and either they're all liars and hoaxers, or it's true and there's something to it. Now, do I believe every single Bigfoot story? No, I do not.

But you can usually tell if somebody's really had a big, foot sighting because they they have tells you know what I mean one of the things that I watch people is their eyes people who've really seen something you can see it in their eyes you know what I mean what is it that you see in their eyes trauma somebody who's really seen a big foot up close and personal not you know somebody who's seen it like, you know, 75, 100 yards away and they're looking at it through a scope or a pair of binoculars or something,

I'm talking about like somebody like me as a kid who saw an albino bigfoot looking in his window and was three to four feet from it. You know, but like I said, to a skeptic, everything's a dude in a suit or a bear. You mentioned how you've seen the look of trauma in someone who's actually seen a big foot up close

is that a look that you would see often in that cloac area people have had an up close and personal experience yes absolutely it changes you it also shreds your brain imagine as a seven year old kid looking out your window

and seeing something looking in at you that science religion and all the other people out there say doesn't exist. In one fell swoop, your brain now questions everything. Because if Bigfoot exists, nothing is off the table. Because I've heard, as a kid growing up, I'd heard stories about Bigfoot, but I'd put that in the same place as unicorns, trolls, elves, you know, rainbow bright stuff

you know that kind of stuff okay that's where I put Bigfoot but when you look out your window and you see one of those suckers looking in at you you're done and that changes you literally they actually have done brain scans on people who've passed polygraphs and stuff for Bigfoot

and they have a different response in their brain to processing information than people who have not seen one. And they have a strong trauma response when they talk about it. And that is something you can't fake. I mean, people, if somebody tells me they've seen a big foot, I just look them in the eye. And I do. If they're smiling, if they're laughing, you know, if they're just like, like, you know, not taking it seriously.

I don't listen to anything they say. I saw a guy who was a Navy SEAL. I kid you not. A guy I met who was a Navy SEAL, okay? He had his DD-214s, his military ID, all of that. He told me, he said, I was a Navy SEAL, and he said, seeing an effing Bigfoot changed my life forever. He said, because now, he said,

I used to go in the forest all the time. I used to hunt, fish, hike. I can't do that anymore. He said, because that scared me so bad. He said, I was in Vietnam. He said, I faced every type of human and animal that you can show me. He said, I fought bears. I fought people.

He said, I fought wolves, tigers, lions, all kinds of stuff. And he said, there is nothing that scared me like that big foot. And for a guy who was a Navy SEAL to say something like that, that's telling you something about Bigfoot. Did he mention where he had seen that Bigfoot? What area? Yeah, near Pikes Peak in Colorado. Do you feel like, so the first thing is, you know,

in that Kloak area, everyone has either seen or knows someone that has seen Bigfoot. Is there, are there stories that are always passed around in that area? as like the ultimate encounter slash story like this story proves that they're out there. Anything that the story you kept hearing over and over and over again referred to? There was one and it was told to me I actually, Al Jackson introduced me to two 10 people. again he's Mr. Bigfoot. He's a clinket elder

and he introduced me to these guys and they all told the same story that they had a big foot walk out there was a cedar mill on the outskirts of clock where they processed cedar wood and stuff like that

and they had a big foot walk right through the middle of the factory or the sawmill, excuse me. And it was howling, letting out this horrible screech. It scared them so bad they wouldn't go back there again to work for like a month. And these were people in the community who were well known in the community as honest, God-fearing people who are not hoaxers, not pranksters, not liars, not liars, not alcoholics or drug addicts don't have mental illness.

They're just people who saw something really crazy. They couldn't explain. And I believed them. They all saw it. And they heard it walking through the middle of their work site. That almost sounds like a portlock type situation, except for there wasn't a massive amount of people being killed. But they did leave the area and not return.

that's really, really interesting. Well, and plus the Haida now, in Heideburg, they actually have a name for their Bigfoot. They call it Goghete. It means like Wild Man or something like that. And they've had some stories like Bigfoot, like, you know, rocks through people's windows or through their doors,

stuff like that. Living up there. And this is a totally random question. Did you have any thoughts about missing 401 or run into any situations regarding that? They've had children, adults, and people go missing in the forests that were not found. they do have black bearer on the island they're not they probably get up to about two 300 pounds

but the average of it is about 150, 200 pounds and they're I mean if you run into one obviously you know it would cause damage but you know it's just It's just weird

Because when you have bear kills You know you find body parts You know you find where the bear Gragged them off You see blood marks stuff like that These are people who disappeared And are never seen again Not hiding her hair

Not clothing They may have been carrying rifles Or fishing equipment It's all gone And nobody ever finds it Would you ever talk to hear from people that would run into large animals that would have their

necks broken, almost twisted and broken. I've gotten reports of that from Montana where even creatures like grizzlies would have their necks broken and stumble upon animals like that. In Kloch, when the bigflets kill something or on Prince of Wales, they eat it. So you don't find animals

usually that are just preyed upon and not eaten. So I would say that they have found animals who were killed. Like one, it had its skull crushed in. And the way it was done, it doesn't make sense that it would be a bear. Because if a bear did it, you'd have, you know, claw marks and stuff like that. What it looked like is somebody took like a hammer and hit the, the deer in the head, just like one hit.

And, you know, who could run down a deer and hit it in the head with a hammer? I don't know. Just saying. That's, that's intense. That is intense. How long ago, again, was it that you were in that Kloak region? 2010, June 2010 to June 2012. I still hear a story of 2000.

stuff going on out there. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. I was going to ask you. So there's still events unfolding in that area. Oh, wow. That place is a paradise for Bigfoot, man.

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You have like shrimp. You have like seals. You have like different fish. You have all kinds. I mean, it's actually a temperate rainforest is what Klauak is classified as. And Prince of Wales. And so you have like lichen. You have like all kinds of fruit.

They have like gooseberry. salmon berries, boisenberries, blueberries. They've got all kinds of berries around there. It's literally like the animals there don't starve. Sounds like a perfect environment. Yep. So they've said, I know one guy he reported the sighting where he said he saw a big foot take a rock. And there was a seal swimming in the water and the big foot beamed it in the head.

And then slam out, grabbed it, threw it over its shoulder. or slammed back to shore and walked off into the forest. That is incredible. That's why I like, when people tell me Bigfoot throw rocks at them, I know for a fact the Bigfoot aren't aiming at them directly. They're just trying to scare you and drive you out of their area. They will throw it at you if you don't like, you don't get the hint and leave.

You know what I mean? But like they've had reports of them doing that to deer to, you know, I've heard in Anchorage. I heard reports of them doing it to Moose. I actually heard of a Bigfoot running down a moose in Anchorage. Out in Denali, before us, there was a couple of hunters out there. You're not actually supposed to carry firearms in Denali Park. But, you know, a lot of people disregard that because there's frigging huge grizzly bears out there.

And if you encounter one, they're not afraid of people. at all. And if they're hungry, they'll eat the crap out of you. So a lot of people do carry rifles out there and whatnot. But anyway, they saw Bigfoot run down a moose, grab it, and like break its snack and drop it like a bad habit. And they said it literally picked the moose up. And this is a huge moose. They said it was probably seven foot from the top of the head down. And they said, that thing. threw it over its shoulder and walked off. They said the big foot was about nine feet tall.

And they said it was built like a brick shite house, is what the guy said. He said that that thing was frigging massive. And he said it easily picked it up, threw it over its shoulder, and walked away. The strength of a big foot is unfreaking real. That's why when I hear people saying they'll shoot one, I talked to one of the elders about that. I said, does anybody ever shot one? He goes, hell no. What do you think we're stupid?

We're not going to shoot them. They live in families out there. If you see one big foot, there's two or three others surrounding you. If you shoot one, the others will come in and kill you. So that's why I laugh when I hear people saying they're going to shoot a big foot. It's like you better hope it's alone. You can try to shoot a big foot, but it doesn't sound like you'll be getting away alive potentially. you probably know yeah yeah definitely did you another thing is oh go ahead sorry sorry no you go ahead

I was going to ask did you ever have any reports of people hearing a lot of localizations in that area oh yeah I heard of myself oh really what what kind of things did you hear well I've heard whoops you know like that and there's nothing in Klawok and on print of whales that makes that kind of noise. I've heard that. I've heard I've heard growls, obviously, that thing I heard, they go like,

like that at me. I heard that. I also heard one that kind of reminded me of that B.C. how thinker-thunker put it on his site. I can't even imitate it. It's like real, real,

real weird and high pitched and it's just like it sounds really bizarre but it sounded like that and then i heard one once that was almost like that ohio mowg how sure that some people do like that oh that kind of stuff you know what i mean that um i heard something very like that and then i heard one that was like a scream um and it sounded like uh cliff berrickman used to do it on finding Bigfoot, beginning of it. You'd do this scream and it'd be like, you'd just go like that. And I heard something like that, but it was a lot louder. And it carried for miles and like you could feel it.

And one of the neighbor's dogs, when I heard that, ears went down, tail went between its legs and that thing yiped, went in the house and wouldn't come out for a week. It was hiding under the bed. It actually went all over itself and defecated on itself. It was so terrified. So you've definitely heard a few things when you're up there. Did anyone ever report anything similar to like language or something that sounded like language or anything like that?

If you're talking about like that samurai chatter, one, no. Okay. I never heard anything like that. Gotcha. If you're talking about that, what's that guy's name? Oh, I can't think of that gentleman's name. He's, he's got that Sierra sounds.

One morehead. Yeah, I was, it's pretty much the same thing. That's what I was referring to. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I have never heard anybody say they heard anything like that. Gotcha.

Yeah, but you're hearing all sorts of things up there. That is so interesting. It's crazier that I haven't heard more about this particular area. And maybe it's just because I'm not overly familiar with the Alaska Bigfoot scene. But, man, Klohawk, Alaska definitely seems like it's the place you should go if you wanted to research. Is this a place you can just walk into, though, or is it all like you have to be associated with the particular tribes in order to go to that area? Well, it really depends. Okay.

Because like Craig, Craig Alaska is not a tribal town. It's actually a town for people who are like not natives. And I don't mean native to Prince of Wales. I mean like people who are not Native American. A lot of them live there in Craig. And there's a guy out in Craig. Craig, who's name for the life of me, I cannot think of that man's name, but he researches Bigfoot out there.

He'll take you around. Generally, it's a good idea to reach out to people online because there are like people out there in Craig or other places who let it be known that they are looking for Bigfoot on Prince of Wales. if you Google it, you can usually find somebody's name pop up. And you can always email them and see what they have to say. Gotcha. Do a little dig in. It sounds like you'll find them, definitely. And like I said, I cannot for the life from you think of that guy's name.

I haven't talked to him since like 2011. I'm not even sure if he's even still alive, to be honest. Gotcha. Yeah, definitely. He was an older man. And I don't know if he's still. living or even active. Like I said, that was like, you know, all those years ago.

Oh, yeah, exactly. Well, Alex, this has been an amazing chat about an area of Alaska. I think deserves more respect for sure. I know it gets my respect now. No question. I want to thank you for coming on this show and for chatting for a bit. I mean, we could talk for hours on all the stories I think. No, I think we've covered the basics.

I think we've covered enough. The one thing I do want to add, though, is that just that a lot of people out there think that the interdimensional Bigfoot stuff is Bigfoot. I just want to propose to people that it might not be a Bigfoot. it really might be a shape-shipping spirit. Now, I'm not saying to people who are diehard believers that Bigfoot is an interdimensional travel or a UFO not or whatever. I wouldn't, for the life of me, disparage them.

I know people have had their experiences, and I know they believe what they believe. And so I would never try to challenge that or disrespect that. But I would just like to put a bug in somebody's ear, you know, to just think about that when you're talking about Bigfoot and saying that they're associated with orbs or UFOs or like they walk into a forest and they disappear and the tracks stop dead and there's nowhere for them to disappear too,

that you might not actually have encountered a Bigfoot. You might have encountered a Skinwalker, a Amakuk or a Kushikah or whatever. Just a thought. That's all I got. It hasn't been a lot of fun. Yeah. Thank you for coming on, Alex.

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