Bigfoot Society - Sasquatch Siege of Rainier, Oregon (Archives)

Episode Date: August 11, 2024

Originally aired 8/28/23In this episode from the archives, we talk to Wade, who shares his traumatic experiences with Sasquatch while living in Rainier, Oregon. Wade recounts his family's move from Ca...lifornia to Oregon in the late 70s and the increasingly intense interactions with a group of four Sasquatches near their home. They discuss various frightening behaviors of these creatures, like looking through windows, destroying property, and observing the children. Wade also touches on the impact these encounters had on his family, the community's reaction, and the eventual sale of their property to the federal government. Listeners are provided a detailed and chilling account of cohabiting with these mysterious and enormous creatures. Wade’s reflections reveal the emotional and psychological scars left on him and his family from these inexplicable encounters with Sasquatch.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:06 slash the bigfoot society and now let's get on with the show all right big foot society I've got the privilege of talking to Wade tonight he has contacted me from a great state of Oregon how's it going tonight Wade it's going very well thank you very much awesome and you see you reached out and you're saying how you would like to provide some information, hopefully it would be able to help listeners about the time that you had lived. And is it okay if I say the area where you had lived in Oregon? Absolutely. Okay. So you had lived in Reneer, Oregon. And you had some really interesting interactions
Starting point is 00:02:50 that sound like with Sasquatch in that area. So I'm just going to let you go ahead and share what you had experienced. Okay, that'd be great. Well, we came to Rainier, Oregon from Southern California as my dad was a pipe fitter. He was hired onto the Trojan nuclear plant as it was being built. And I'm one of many kids and boys and girls
Starting point is 00:03:21 and I was the youngest. And dad bought this land. and when we first got there, there was, we moved into this just horrible, a single wide trailer until we can get a brand new one there. And right off the bat, some very odd things were occurring. We thought it was just the neighbors coming over, but it wasn't. to be to be blunt these animals or whatever they are whatever you choose to call them
Starting point is 00:04:01 there is real as the vehicles driving down the road that being said they had a nasty habit at first of just looking through our windows and scaring mostly all my sisters, all the girls and my mother.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And they would scream and run from the room, and dad would always run out the door, and he would hardly ever see anything, but he would hear loud footsteps as if you were dragging a engine block through the woods, so to speak. We all started to get pretty good looks at him here and there, and in the daytime and in the daytime. time and it was obvious as we cleaned the single white up, the outside of it, that these animals were pounding on this trailer.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And it was just pounded. And we slowly understood what was occurring. Now, they didn't do anything aggressive at first. they were just, they were just curious of what was going on. It was obvious to a plow boy that nobody had lived in this trailer for quite some time, years possibly. So we knew that there was four. We knew what there was four because we all seen all four of them at the same time, many times. mostly in the daytime.
Starting point is 00:05:48 There was obviously a large, and you'll excuse the cliche, there was a large male. And well, saying large is kind of a understatement. There was a smaller female. She was more boxy, chubby, chubby kind of shaped. And then two younger ones that were almost identical. One was a little brown, one was a little cinnamon red. And they were very almost identical in height.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So their mom and dad had to rationalize this. They were lying to us children. They had to become professional. to their children by saying, oh, these things are just like monkeys. They're monkeys because we came from California and we'd often go to the San Diego Zoo, you know, once a year kind of thing. And so because they did not want their children frightened. So we thought, okay, they're monkeys, so we wouldn't be afraid.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So in time, we had a new double wide put in above where we were at and cleared off a bunch of land. And dad had hired a company to come in and start cutting down trees that were enormous within themselves. They're, you know, the kind of logs you'd only be able to put two or three on a logging truck. and that's when things changed quite a bit they would just come out and stand there away from the tree line by a few feet they were quite unafraid
Starting point is 00:07:56 all four of them they would stand most of time motionless they had no fear of us whatsoever at least to us the family family. Everybody was hassled. And when I say everybody, let me qualify that. The timber fallers that dead hired, they were being hassled and they were being scared off
Starting point is 00:08:27 by these things. The people that we bought the land from, a very elderly couple named Bell and how they still lived on the property in old shack they were being harassed and so slowly over months and months things would uptick so what dad thought he would do is let people at the time who was working around him he would let the men live in the single wide that we did stay in there for for one reason. Dad said, I'm not going to charge you any money to stay there because at the time it was super hard to find a place to live there.
Starting point is 00:09:23 These things were on the property. You'd make a reasonable effort to air them out in any way that you see fit. and you're good. And so they did. I was always instructed to stay away from them. And it just got really bad, especially for the girls.
Starting point is 00:09:49 For some reason, the male and female, they were just, they, they couldn't, they were, it's like their curiosity got the best of them. And the girls, of course, would use high-pitched voices because we were young. And the girls were just frightened of absolutely everything. My older brother, he was the oldest and I was the youngest.
Starting point is 00:10:22 We were told things a little bit differently. Dad, of course, being this five-foot-tall pipe fitter that resembled Yosemite's ham. also a Marine in the Korean War era was no joke. He, you didn't mess with this guy and you're not going to tell him what to do, you know, but a very decent man. And he'd look at my brother and I and say, these things are a threat. I don't want you to grab a rifle and go after them because that's what they probably want. And we never did. but the men in the trailer
Starting point is 00:11:05 started to seek these things out to fulfill their obligation, so to speak. And it just got worse. I think that was kind of a mistake on dad's part. So, you know, this is a span over four years, at least it was for my brother, my dad, and myself. Now, after two years, all my sisters, including my mother, who was a heart patient and not to be startled.
Starting point is 00:11:41 They had had enough. They're always, these were not the girls that we remember when we moved there. They could never get any sleep. They're always scared. They, they changed. And dad was, dad was, of course, concerned. I'm more than the concern. He was, you know, scared for all the girls.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Every once in a while, you know, one of the girls or both of the girls or all four of them for that fact would run in the house screaming and, you know, and that's not good. And the nerves would be high for a couple of days. But then a few days later, something else would happen. The girls would get scared again. So, and this went on for a couple of years. And dad finally sent the girls away to Kennewick, Washington. And the day after dad had sent the girls away, he got the men from the trailer down there. And us two boys and informed everybody, the girls are gone.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I want these things aired out. know all all bets are off so it's funny people think oh just turn on all your lights and and they'll go away that's that's that's that's not exactly true they don't care about the light they don't care because often you would see them in a light like an old farm light in your driveway that you would have and they'd be standing just a few feet away from it, either staring at the house most of the time or off at one of the other animals, creatures. So that's not, you know, people think turn on the lights and they'll go, no, they're not going to go away. They're not afraid. So they tried a lot of different things
Starting point is 00:13:49 to actually lure these animals in. And not a darn thing worked to lure them. They try to bait them or whatever. They just wanted to get a shot at them. And, well, let me describe the animals. The large male, I remember this boiler maker. He was a boiler maker. And these are all savvy men. He had said the male was at least 10 feet tall and a little under 1,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And he never qualified how he knew that. you look at these group of men, they knew that. These were old school, very tough, all go, no stop, hunting almost year-round kind of men. And the female was probably about eight feet tall and a little bit lighter. But just there, it's my experience. opinion that when people go into shock, they think that, you know, they could see when it's no big deal, but they're not ready to see how enormous these creatures, these animals actually are. And that's what stops people in their tracks. I think it's something inherent in all of us that when we either see something that large, that's not supposed to exist, that it, uh, you know, it scares us into, to act out or just to shut down and not move. But anyways, the two smaller ones, I believe it, probably their children, they were at least eight feet tall at the very least.
Starting point is 00:15:53 But they were very, very fast. And they would run every once in a while, they would run. but they wouldn't uh it's it's kind of hard to describe uh they would lean forward a little bit but their hand their arms wouldn't like uh pump back and forth like like ours would they're they're they're they're almost completely still so it's a little off putting it you don't uh it almost looks a little cartoonish yeah it's almost a little cartoonish so uh about two months after that had sent the girls away to Washington State, the large male was standing directly underneath the light on a water well pump house.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And we had just put that thing in and built it. And these animals had a nasty habit of not taking things, but they were. would they would pummel things, they would beat it up. Whatever it was, they would just pummel it into the ground. It was, you know, who could guess the behavior of such animals. But that's what they did. It just, it was really infuriating. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. What if you could get more from what you already do? When you're a Shell Fuel Rewards member, you can. Say your Saturday could be filled with more rewards, more special offers, and definitely more savings when you're fueling up your car.
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Starting point is 00:20:21 it was just absolutely smashed like you literally ran it over with a car and And, but there's no mistake, you know, with the footprints around this talk on the ground.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You can clearly see what the, what had happened. So, but anyways, the large male, he never had a facial expression. Never not once. everything on his face was it's like extravagated like his eyes his nose his lips like you could put
Starting point is 00:21:09 both your fists in his mouth and still have room he was kind of like and with all due respect he looked like he had down syndrome verbatim he's you'd look at this animal and just say, ah, he has Down syndrome.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And the reason why I can say that, because they would put their faces right up to the window. There's no mystery. Their eyes would move very quickly, and you would just see little shards of white on the sides of their eyes when they would move left and right or up or down. and the female looked like just like a huge mouth person all the same body parts of course
Starting point is 00:22:04 but she was expressive her eyebrows would move up and down quite a lot I was always surprised at how you could like see the her pink nostrils really is just like the brightest pink within her nostrils that you could always see and the two smaller ones that were almost identical they were well they kind of look like bonobos it's a certain type of monkey
Starting point is 00:22:44 so we try to keep an eye on these things what time they would come and go the noises we would hear and how they behaved and we knew always that they would leave in the wintertime and they always but when the snow hit they were they were gone I don't know why I don't know why I'd be guessing but they would do things that were now they about it now is the most god-awful creepy things that like between the new house and there was a very old barn there in that we had well over a century old very large
Starting point is 00:23:39 they would crawl clearly on their bellies there's no other way you know to describe it between the barn and the house and it was about three foot tall grass and they'd leave a swath in this grass easily eight nine ten feet wide it's just and it would just be an harking crawl and I do remember distinctly standing there with dad and my older brother and my older brother exclaiming with his hands up in the air going dad I don't know what they tell you they're crawling they're crawling you know through the grass you know and even though the grass wasn't very tall and you would think okay how can such a large animal crawl only through three feet of grass and not be seen and um it's just absolutely creepy they would uh sound completely different um in two different ways they would if they were at like a distance they would howl.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Nothing else sounds like that. They would make very large, loud calls. But when they were close, it would be like, like if you recorded somebody mumbling but played it backwards, if that's when you, it's like they would,
Starting point is 00:25:18 they would mumble for lack of final words to each other. So they, let me get back to the large mail here. The, about a month and a half after the girls were sent to the tri-cities in Washington, there was a large male was standing in the blight by the pump house. And his shoulders were well, above the pump house roof, which was in your standard, you know, roof. And dad was so angered by the hubris of this creature that he went to the gun case yet again.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And he pulled out his rifle. And this was, and I still got that rifle, actually. It's a 30 out six weatherby. And he was so irritated at the time. he didn't want to run all the way to the end of the trailer, excuse me, to open the door and shoot at this thing. He slid one of the two windows on this big window on the front and shoved the rifle through the screen and shot at this animal. Now, Dean and I were standing there in the middle part of the unopenedable window. What if you could get more from what you already do?
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Starting point is 00:29:22 can see what it's like when that, when a bullet will hit an animal like that. You see lots of dust and fur and the shock on the body as a bullet hits. Now, Dad hit it in the left shoulder and aiming.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But I'm telling you, this animal, as big as it was, is what turned around and got out of the out of our view, which is maybe 30 feet to the tree line, and out of that light, faster before the fur that came off the animal, hit the ground. And you can't, it's hard to articulate how fast these animals are capable of moving. but they can if they're if they're motivated so um not too far after that they started their behavior changed a little bit so what they would do is that they would step out of the tree line a little bit they would make a left or a right in this big circle i'm we're talking maybe four acres cleared off in a trailer right in the center um and they would run along the tree line.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Like you see some people in the yard where that dog has been in that yard for years and it's got this, you know, this trail just completely worn down. It had that look, but this was maybe four feet wide. And it was just dust. There was nothing growing on the circle. So that's kind of humorous, but it's not, it's a little unsettling. Everything about it is absolutely. settling. So what I understand now is that they had a problem with a few things. They had a problem with the color black. I'm just going to go ahead and say this. At the time,
Starting point is 00:31:51 mom had two cars. She had a big Ford van with lots of wind. windows and bench seats for kids and it was a light green but mom dad also bought mom a big huge almost like a 1970s some Lincoln Continental and they would run into that thing uh from it could be just a little after dusk and they would literally run into it it was odd I can't explain why I can't explain why I don't know but um I went against my dad's wishes. And I was, I wasn't messing with these animals,
Starting point is 00:32:34 but I wanted to try something. And what I did is that, okay, the reason why they have a problem with splitting their attention. As if they can only pay attention to one thing at a time. And what I did is
Starting point is 00:32:56 I hung a pop can from a fishing wire over a branch, just barely inside the wood line. And I fed that the fishing line all the way back to the porch of the house. And it was up there for about two weeks until I finally had the nerve to jiggle the can when I would see one. this was the female and I could see her even though she was just a few feet in the tree line, she would sway just a little bit. I seen her and she wasn't aggressive, but she seen me and she knew I could see her. And I walked over to the edge of the patio and I started jiggling that fish line. and as if
Starting point is 00:33:56 you were teasing an animal they became tormented or frustrated that she did not want to take her eyes off of me especially after I jumped off the patio and started pulling the string again
Starting point is 00:34:17 but she could hear what was going on about 25, 30 feet away from her and that's the only time I really seeing her neck really move a little bit independently of her just as the enormous blocky body. And she became frustrated and started like crying like just this high-pitched kind of frustrated cry. So I was just a knucklehead kid at the time. I knew nothing. I just do nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:55 but I did this and it lasted for about which seemed like an eternity but it was only just a few minutes and I didn't even have the guts to go retrieve the can after she turned and walked away but we did see the mail that dad shot twice after that and
Starting point is 00:35:22 but this wasn't a terribly consistent thing with these four. But it was just an instant, maybe once a month, sometimes twice a month, but it spread over almost four years until Trojan, the nuclear plant actually opened. And we're talking to the late 70s here. And but dad had a very hard time with the people. around him, the neighbors, there was two houses across the street from us. They never came out at night time. I knew that they were angry with mom and dad for cutting down the lumber for some reason. And I think that they already knew that these animals were around.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And here comes my dad mucking everything up. You know, you're stirring the power. and you're making trouble for all of us. There was people that would show up and give my dad a hard time. They, all the way from the Department of Interior, I think, I'm trying to remember the logo on the side of that vehicle. but there was a man in a white shirt with pins in his pocket and heavy black glasses and black slacks Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 00:40:04 and they were telling Dad what not to do. And I didn't hear them very well, but I definitely heard dad. And he said,
Starting point is 00:40:14 you're not going to tell me what to do. Of course, dad used a lot of colorful metaphors and he goes I know what I'm shooting at I've had it
Starting point is 00:40:24 if you don't like it why don't you come up here and stay a couple of nights and see how you feel you're not going to tell me what to do on my land and if you don't like it then tough
Starting point is 00:40:36 you know the police and game boardens would be there at least once every two months and that was a little bit more cordial, calm conversations, but everybody knew up on that land. And the land sat a couple miles up a road called Near City Road in Rainier, Oregon. And it was just passed, about a quarter mile past a cemetery that is a private member-only
Starting point is 00:41:13 cemetery. I don't remember what the membership is on the right. And everybody knew without exception that these animals were up there. Without exception. So
Starting point is 00:41:31 I understand my dad's motivation that he wanted these animals gone. Dad bought the land to harvest the lumber. But these animals were making it hard on everybody up there from just absolutely everybody. So it would be financially ruinous for us to leave, even though dad was still working as a pipe fitter at Trojan. So like I said, these are not mythical creatures.
Starting point is 00:42:11 They're absolutely blood and bone. I think that they're a primate, but I think they're just more than just a primate. They're more. Whatever that is, whatever that is, I don't know. I think that you would be a fool, foolhardy to jump in the woods, ignorant of a lot, to go look for these things. if you think you know where they are, there's no part of that equation
Starting point is 00:42:50 where that'll turn out a positive for you. And I want to qualify that. Everybody knows, even a plow boy would understand if you don't want to be seen in the woods, all you have to do is stand still, for the most part. But they have the ability to move so quickly that I'm telling you
Starting point is 00:43:16 because I hunt every once in a while you're not going to be able to draw a beat on these animals you're not going to be able to lead your shot if you get a clear shot I think if they let you let you see them they've either made a mistake or they want you to see them and you're in a face full of trouble
Starting point is 00:43:42 but for some reason these animals they were just absolutely fascinated with us kids they weren't aggressive towards us they would just observe us for lack of final words but they were aggressive to everybody else without exception the even the men coming up that drilled the new well up there their equipment was thrown around they seen him they were frightened now and i want to prove that even the
Starting point is 00:44:26 men that he hired to drill the well were frightened on the second to the last day before they hit water dad and i were coming up the hill on a saturday afternoon um in that deep forest green company truck he had and And they were coming down in their trucks. And they just said, hey, look, Dean, we've had enough. You've got to get rid of these things. We're done. And he, you know, of course, they were exchanging some colorful metaphors.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And he goes, all right, you know, I'll put the men right on the land while you're working as much as I can. And we'll make sure everything is okay. and they came back the next day and they hit water and then that was it but they they they harassed everybody especially the the lumberjacks the the all the men that went up there to cut down all those trees and not just a little bit of trees but it took at least three years to cut down and process all these trees, which was good for us. That's why we bought the land. But they never harmed us kids.
Starting point is 00:45:57 They never harmed us. They, like I said, their curiosity would just get the best of them. I didn't know a lot of the problems in my family. while there were so many problems with my siblings, regardless of their education, but they were still traumatized from when they were young. And until an older cousin convinced me and says, hey, you've got to get this off your chest. And I also want you to understand why so many things happened the way they happened. I remembered a lot, but he helped me a lot to put it in a straight line to where
Starting point is 00:46:45 I said, ah, got it, I understand now. So now to be sure, the property still exists that old double wide is still there. The barn is gone, but there is two old bachelors that live in that place. And I have no doubt
Starting point is 00:47:08 that they're having trouble. So I rode by there, I think about a year and a half ago now. And I go on motorcycle rides. And I couldn't help but stop in and see the place. And it brought back a lot of memories. And not a lot of them good. So if they don't want you, to see them, you're not going to see him.
Starting point is 00:47:48 If they want to, if they want to take you, they're just, they're just going to take you. And there's no choice about it. They're too fast and they're too quiet. There wasn't any really odor to them. I heard somebody say once. I never smelled anything bad with these animals.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think there's a heck. of a lot of them they would have to be just like any breeding you know animal they'd have to be enough of them around but uh if you hear somebody else talk about them it's hard to know what to believe or not to believe um i'd like to i would like to hope that they were just uh like a dog uh a simple creature some intuitive and some kind of the smart you can teach tricks but they're not they're more than just a primate because they're emotional uh they do emotional things they they act out they'll they throw fits uh they're it's hard to describe but they're thinking about it now how they were acting sometimes
Starting point is 00:49:09 They're clearly, they're emotional creatures and that's scary within itself. If they were just a simple animal like a deer or an elk or a pig, but they're not. I think that they're considerably smarter than we give them credit for. So that's just about it. Wade, can I ask you some questions? Oh, please do. Have you shared this with anyone else? Yeah, I talked to one man who was a very decent man,
Starting point is 00:50:01 and it kind of helped me a lot inside since then to, it kind of made me angry because it affected my family severely. and only in the last several years that I realized that it really affected our family and what happened to us and how it shaped our lives. But I was so young at the time, I couldn't grasp it. Right. So this is just a random individual that you had talked to to try to work through some emotions you were having? Well, no. this person was suggested to me and who's had similar experiences.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I thought, well, I'll talk to them and try to, you know, put it in a linear way that kind of makes sense. And it was, it made me happy, but it also made me angry for what these animals did. And they were just being themselves. that's they're doing what they're doing. I don't think they were evil, but they're just, they're just saying,
Starting point is 00:51:17 hey, we're here too and we're going to do what we're going to do. Wow. So it wasn't a guy, was it a guy with another podcast? Because if it was, I want to listen to that one too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It was, what was, a very decent man. I liked him. His name was Wes Germer. Oh, yes. That's right. Sasker's Chronicles.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Cool. I had a feeling. Wade, this is wild. Like this is a wild, wild story. Did they ever try to get inside the houses or the trailers on the property? No,
Starting point is 00:51:57 they never did. But what they did, when they would like act out, like negative behaviors like you would get from a child, they would, They would destroy things. At first, dad put in a white picket fence. It was a joke.
Starting point is 00:52:19 He always promised my mom he would put one in. And by God, he did. And it was a nice one. And they would stomp it and not just knock it down. They would just stomp back and forth on this thing. After they knocked it down, they would try to tear the barn up. tear branches off. They were just like property damage, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:43 It was, it was illogical. It just, you know, my young mind at the time just couldn't process that. Did you, do you have anything from that time period that could be used as evidence of these creatures besides your memories? Other than absolutely everybody else's memories and experiences, well, I'll tell you what. I tell you, well, there were so many people involved and absolutely everybody knew. Every police officer, every game warden, we would, there used to be a restaurant downtown Rainier. It looks like a Thomas Kincaid painting, right, at the time in the late 70s. there was a pizza parlor called Mr. Benjango's.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And we would walk in there as a family. And we were all, I was standing by this little music box, and there was another family there. And there was a little girl in there that would, she was pointing, of course, their children. She goes, look, Mom, Mama, it's the monkey family. It's the monkey family. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 00:56:17 At least, I've learned to get to the 50, I've learned some things, like the value of the family, the importance of the work, and that the 99%
Starting point is 00:56:27 of the people of the most of 50 have the virus that cause a Culebriya. Although not all the
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Starting point is 00:56:46 to the doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocinado for GSK everybody in that town knew what what was occurring the two bachelors that still lived there as of like a year and a half ago i think um as soon as i told them my name my whole name you could see uh paul just rest on
Starting point is 00:57:22 these people like oh it's one of you and um and they knew right away because there was so much history there in that town when all of that occurred. I think people kind of take these things for granted that the fact that somebody would grab the rifle and go, when they bang on trees, that's right, bang on trees and try to call one of these things in, you're toast. just a year you're not going to make it so I haven't looked into
Starting point is 00:58:10 tracking these things down too much or what they really are too much I'm still angry in my mind and in my heart of what what our family had
Starting point is 00:58:25 had to live with over those four years and this is in your saying mid to late 70s? Yeah. Trojan was finally done. And Dad just went to the next nuclear plan, which was
Starting point is 00:58:44 in the Tri-Cities. It was it was not, it was I think the worst part about it is, is not just those animals. It wasn't just those animals. It was a, it was
Starting point is 00:59:04 the social things after the fact when my older cousin who was the same age as my brother, my brother's the old son the youngest, he looked at me and he was the one that encouraged me to talk to Wes. He goes, ever wondered why you guys by Christmas so time so much? I'm like, no, I really don't know because, you know, I really put on a dog, lots of decorations. And he goes, because those animals would always leave in the wintertime and you guys could relax. Oh, wow. I'm like, I'll be dipped in chocolate. I had no idea. It didn't really dawn on me, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I thought, well, okay, right. Okay, okay, I get it. And when we finally got up to Richland, Washington, the Tri-Cities, those girls, they were nothing like I remembered. And they all went on to have fantastic education. It was fantastic, for all intents and purposes, fantastic lives. But all their lives were just, well, they were kind of train wrecks because they never, they had such a hard time growing up in that place.
Starting point is 01:00:16 At least they were there for two and a half years. And my brother, too, I mean, the very next day after he turned 18, he joined the Navy and he was gone. He didn't want to have. And of course, there's, you know, me, wait. And of course, nobody's going to stop and explain stuff to me because I was just that, you know, kid. How old were you during that time? 10. Wow, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Oh, man. I wasn't super young, but I was old enough. I understood a lot what was going on. There was a man that worked. He was a pipe fitter two. And I always wondered why dad brought. this one man with him wherever he went and he was this large black man but a sweetheart of a man and his name was Sippy I don't know if that's his real name or not but that's what everybody
Starting point is 01:01:15 called him and Sippy did something that he said worked real good the fact that one of these creatures even walked by him and hit the butt of his rifle but it was so close with leg but he was so close to the house and And he was facing the house. Sippy was with his gun. He couldn't shoot. But what Sippy would do would get a bunch of trash bags, this old black trash bags and tape them together.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And he would hide under the trash bag just in the yard waiting for one of these animals to show up. So he could give him the business. Now, dad wasn't a fool. Dad promised these men. a pretty good cash incentive if they were able to get one on the ground. So this particular man named SIPI did his dead level best. Until dad died of cancer. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Well, you know, he worked on all those nuclear plants. That's where it's from. I totally get it. Um, um, um, wherever dad went, like a month later, Sippy would show up and Sippy, dad only worked for three different companies this whole life. And he brought Sippy with him wherever he went. So whatever Sippy did, as they would say in the vernacular, Sippy did data solid somewhere that I'm unaware of. Um, so, uh, I have no doubt. that those animals of some type, I don't know how long they live, there's no reason for them to go anywhere. There's every possible resource an animal could want.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I mean, you think, gee whiz, you got brown bears living in there. Well, sure, you could throw a big primate in there. What's, you know, so I have no doubt they're still there. Wait, how far out in the woods were you guys? living from the town of Rainier like was it quite a dread drive out into the woods no no not at all we're talking up you leave downtown Rainier proper and you go through maybe a half a dozen blocks of the small town hilly very hilly roads and there's a very large school at the bottom of the hill i think it was some kind of academy maybe i'm not sure and you take a sharp right around that and that road is called
Starting point is 01:04:02 near city road and you you're only going to go up that road maybe a mile and small change if that and it's a one long straight shot up this road not a lot of curves so it was close it's not far away at all idiot. A few months ago, I Google Map. It just looked on Google Maps. The cemetery is still there, and it's all just there. And even since the short time that I rode through there on a motorcycle, they built a couple of more houses here and there. But my suggestion is, if you desire to find one of these animals, it's real simple. You go up that hill and between that old cemetery, it was some odd members only cemetery, I don't know which one it was, and there's a power line road there. You just hang out around there and they'll be right along because they liked the power line road for whatever reason why. You could, as sure as a sun comes up every morning, you could always go down there and find tracks on the power line road. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Goodness. I'll track down those bachelors so bad. You know they're being messed with probably to this day. There's no doubt in my mind. Right. That's right. Now, the barn is no longer there, but it doesn't look like it just fell down and there's a pile of a lumber. The barn is gone.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You know, they took all the lumber. But to the lip where the barn was, there is a short. little alleyway cut little cut through the woods and there's an old cabin that's built I'm telling you what until this day I've never seen anything like it the cabin is built
Starting point is 01:06:10 out of like 16 by 16 logs that had been hewned off pretty good. It's just overbuilt like you wouldn't believe and that old couple that dad bought the land from named Bell and Howell they look
Starting point is 01:06:26 they look like they just stepped off Norman Rockwell calendar it's really something else they lived in that cabin even the whole time that we lived there so
Starting point is 01:06:40 but just a delightful old couple you know and it kind of makes sense now why they would build a cabin like that there's nothing that's going to stop these animals if they have it in mind to do it you can run to your vehicle and close the door
Starting point is 01:07:02 that's that's even that's laughable let alone run into a double wide mobile home you feel safe there you're you can look from what i remember there's no doubt you could go in your a mid-sized car or your standard pickup and there's no doubt in your mind that this animal, especially the male, can just shove it right over. That's not a problem. But say that you would see one of these things from a distance and you'd just be justifiably so pretty freaked out because they're not supposed to exist or however. But they start, they move in such an odd way that's,
Starting point is 01:07:50 when it makes it creepy. They're so fast and fluid and fluid and muscled up all four of these creatures were that, like, how can something that large move like that? It's really something else. But I did find out a few things about them.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Their attention can't be split. They get frustrated and really easy with that. At least a large female did. Do you have any relatives that are still alive can also? Yeah. I talk to my oldest cousin about, or a cousin of mine, the man who encouraged me to contact somebody and try to work it out. He can, I think that he would be, I would think he's a very reasonable man, that he'd be more than happy to. talk to you or anybody that
Starting point is 01:08:56 of interest and he helped me put a lot of pieces together. Now, this is a very reasonable, well-adjusted man. He's not given to wild unsupported statements. Exactly, yeah. So he would have been in the same area time period with you. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a Shell Fuel Rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday.
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Starting point is 01:11:13 At least, I've learned some things, like the value of the family, the importance of the job, and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 have the virus that causes the Culebrilla. Although not all the people in risk, I'll see the sufferer. The eruption dolorouss with ampollies durows' months, making that even
Starting point is 01:11:37 the tasks more simple are all a real real not learn about the quillardia of the
Starting point is 01:11:41 way to talk about your doctor or pharmaceutical patrocinated for GSK Well he was because
Starting point is 01:11:49 Dad hired him as an apprentice on the Trojan job site so he had absolute first-hand
Starting point is 01:11:58 knowledge of all this that occurred but you know he was nine years older than I was
Starting point is 01:12:04 Oh so that's perfect I mean, what he's 17, 18 years old, totally aware of what's going on. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I'd love to talk to him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Well, we'll try to get that together. Anything you can try. Yeah. This same man lives, I think it's about 30 miles away from me now here in Oregon. You know, and he's working the land, you know, and this is a very, a very decent, hardworking, uh, mature man that,
Starting point is 01:12:40 uh, his feet are on the ground. He doesn't, you know, uh, pretty straightforward, uh, old school,
Starting point is 01:12:50 uh, dude. So we'll try to, we'll try to put that together. But, uh, I hear, I hear of all kinds of stories.
Starting point is 01:12:59 It's, it's kind of funny. You, the Pacific Northwest is full of all kinds of big foot and Sasquot stuff. And you, I even seen a Sasquatch motel one time going over the past here. And you got to just shake your head and you're like, oh, gee, Wes, you know. You, uh, my wife grew up here in Oregon.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And everybody has some kind of experience. We're more willing to talk about it here in the Pacific Northwest. but it's just it's just kind of laughable we even got a company here in Oregon that has bigfoot beverage right on the side of their trucks and they distribute you're like oh he's not cheap with do you mind if I ask you one more question
Starting point is 01:13:50 I'm trying to be respectful of your time oh you can ask me anything you want so logically there was a time when you guys left the property and it sounds like the Sasquatch did not leave the property. So did you guys leave because the Sasquatch in a way there was a situation where they won in quotation marks or was it you left because of a different reason? No, it was an absolute, well, there was a couple of reasons, but we consider it,
Starting point is 01:14:22 I would consider it a draw. Now Trojan, Trojan was completed. Okay. It was completed and dad brought us up to the Tri-City. to work at Hanford, but also a federal agency came in and bought the land from dad. And these people were no joke. They would always show up in two and three deep. they were very cold and distant and aloof people, very analytical.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They weren't warm and close. These were some serious hombres. And yeah, they, they, you know, he sold the land to the FedGov. And you got, you just kind of wonder, you're like, wait a minute, why would the federal government want a bunch of land that's just been. and cleared of timber, you know, and it's all residential up there. It's all residential. So hopefully in time, with the help of my cousin, we'll try to, you know, nail that down.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But he promised me he wouldn't bug me about this until he's going to give me some time to, you know, think it through. And all it's really done was just make me angry because of what it had done to our family. I can't imagine living through four years of that. That is absolutely incredible. And I'm thankful that you reached out to me. Out of nowhere, you came through a message on face, but I'm so glad you did.
Starting point is 01:16:15 This is absolutely incredible this story, but it must have been extremely hard to live through. So I'm thankfully you can bring it up. Well, you're very welcome. But it wasn't as hard for me because of my 10-year-old ignorance. But it helped having the dad that I had. Because even if the situation was spooky or creepy or whatever, when dad looked at you and said,
Starting point is 01:16:47 don't worry, kid, everything is going to be okay. I got this. there was nothing else to talk about. Your dad was literally a superhero, you know. And when he said something, you believed it. When he told you to do something, you did it. And that was, it was literally that simple. Did you ever talk to him later about it?
Starting point is 01:17:08 You know, I did. And he would always start off with anger. He would use a lot of, you know, a lot of profanity. Yeah. And he said, you know, those damn, those damn animals cost us more than than I thought it was going to. And he said,
Starting point is 01:17:30 we tried to kill every single mother-loving one of them and nobody could really get a shot on him except for him that one night in under the light in the driveway. In the shoulder, right? In the shoulder, that's right. Wow. And he was the only one that, you know, and gosh, I wish he would have, you know, dropped it right then and there.
Starting point is 01:17:58 But knowing what I know now about rifles, firearms, game, et cetera, that rifle wasn't big enough. I can assure you of that, it was not big enough. And there's a bolt action 30 out six weather me, right? You dropped hell with that thing. you're not going to it just wasn't big enough it wasn't a big enough gun wasn't a big enough
Starting point is 01:18:25 round to drop this animal no way I don't know what you're going to have to have but it better be at least 50 cow I think if you had if you guys had dropped one that probably would have been the worst
Starting point is 01:18:44 decision you ever would have made in your lives I don't want to think about In situations like that You know that you're going to have to deal with the other ones If you take one down Yes That would make sense Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:59 Man that could have gotten real dicey really quick Well my cousin had said something that was kind of odd I didn't get it at first He said you know I think those these things are vengeful Wade like like big cats he said big cats are
Starting point is 01:19:22 vengeful creatures and I didn't you know I had no I'm like what whatever dude you know kind of in my mind
Starting point is 01:19:30 because yeah I think these these things they got a mean streak and I'm like you know you got me today
Starting point is 01:19:39 but you know what I'm going to be back here in about 72 hours in your toast oh yeah and I just said yeah okay, you know, sure, whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Of course, that was in the initial conversation with him. So I'll contact him and maybe we can get them to talk to you and get more clarity and more information. Absolutely. If you could hold on for a few minutes off air, but Wade, thank you so much again for reaching out to me. This has been an awesome chat. And I think that there's going to be.
Starting point is 01:20:16 some interesting things that come out of this. But thank you so much for chatting tonight, Wade. Well, I hope that you're welcome. I hope that I can help somebody out there that's maybe struggling with the same thing, you know, and some useful information. Like, don't go, don't go running in the woods. Exactly. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you
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