Bigfoot Society - Sasquatch Siege of Staten Island!

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Join the Bigfoot Society for an enthralling episode as we sit down with Brian, a psychotherapist from New York City, to delve into his extraordinary Sasquatch encounters. From Staten Island to the Catskills, Brian recounts his experiences that began in the 2000s, including peculiar sightings, mind-speaking with a Sasquatch elder, and eerie phenomena like 'Glimmer Man' appearances and phantom smells. Uncover the remarkable intelligence of Bigfoot, their ability to remain hidden, and Brian’s advice on respect, meditation, and stillness for effective communication. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, Brian’s captivating blend of psychotherapy and spiritual experiences promises to fascinate and intrigue.Resource:Member's episode I referred to about Western New York here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/bigfoot-society-102713134Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail]🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Brian. Brian is a psychotherapist from New York City. And I'm excited to talk to him. He has given me a few things in his submitted info. And it's going to be a very interesting interview. I'm excited for it. So Brian, welcome to the show tonight.

Thank you, thank you. Thanks for doing the show. And I want to give thanks to Barb, who did your episode of 426, who inspired me to write in and contact you. And I came away from listening to her just really wanting to kind of contribute to the conversation. And especially because I draw very similar conclusions to her. I think they are trying to ready us for more contact. And so I just, I kind of wanted to support her. That was what made me want to reach out to you.

Oh, absolutely. And Barb was such a fun individual to talk to. She really has some interesting things going on in that property out in Washington State. Yeah. So, and go ahead. I was going to say, I don't know if you remember you had some technical difficulties in the beginning of that interview. And I think you made a joke as if you thought it was maybe the government to the men in black or something. But she took it to be the Sasquatch people maybe interfering.

And it seems like Native American elders before they talk open. about them, they're in the habit of just kind of like acknowledging they might be listening, they might be tuned into the fact that this conversation is happening and just reassure them that anything being talked about is in service to better relations. And so I just, I want to put that out there just in case because that's where I'm coming from as well. Oh, absolutely. That's a really interesting way to look at it.

I've never thought of that before. Thank you. Of course. Of course. So just want me to just jump into my story. Brian, before you jump into it, can we spend a few minutes if you could explain a little bit about for the people that don't know what a psychotherapist is, what that entails? All right. Well, psychotherapy is like mental health counseling.

It's in service to helping people to work through emotional issues. A lot of times, very deeply rooted emotional issues. my background, I'm pretty traditionally trained. I went to an institute, and I trained in developmental psychology, so it's kind of like making the connection between how issues in the now connect to childhood issues and traumas and et cetera. And, you know, there's a lot of different kinds of therapists out there, and I originally studied developmental psychology because I chiefly wanted to work

of adolescence that was who I worked with for the first and 11 years of my practice. But now I work personally, which means it's a type of therapy that is spirituality inclusive. And for example, people that want to talk about their experiences with the Satchatch people, and if they want to talk to a therapist that's going to take them seriously and not pathologize them, not think they would, you know, delusional or, you know, psychotic or anything. transpersonal therapists are ready to talk to them. So if anybody needs that kind of help, that would be the specialization I'd look for.

Well, that is extremely, I've never heard of that before. That's really interesting and pretty cool, though. Thank you for sharing that. Of course. Brian, I would love to have you star. What got into, sorry,

what got you into the whole Bigfoot topic to begin with? What was your first introduction to it? Well, first coming from New York City, I think that had nothing to do with my life. I never would have thought it'd be part of a conversation like this. Now it's very important to me. But I started having experiences that I connect, that I knew had to do with. I don't think they actually like to be called Sasquatch.

I think like as far as people, something more neutral like that is better. But I started having experiences in the 2000. and it's all pretty will at that point. I've since come to realize that I've been having experiences throughout my life, and there's even a condition I was born with that I think predisposed me to having these contacts. But in the 2000s, like circa 2004, you know, first, just to say this is a weird part, but like I started getting a lot of recommendations of Bigfoot videos on YouTube.

And, you know, I don't know why I don't know why it did that made the algorithm, you know, match it up with me. But I, you know, was watching those videos. And I was a psychic kid and I have had, well, in transpersonal language, I've had the high spiritual intelligence. So I have a lot of spiritual experiences and usual spiritual experiences. And they started having what is sometimes called the Glimmer Man experience, which I think in, in this community, you think of as the editor-cloking effect. But I would have these experiences of this large, you know, that cloaked kind of heat on the highway energy type of being. It would just kind of wander into my living room, just kind of stand there for a while, wander out.

I started having something big slapping my house. And this is on Staten Island. This is not in the country. I was about to jump in real quick. So this is amazing. So you were seeing like the predator type effect. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. On Stad Island. Some people told me glimmer man. Yeah. Yes. And it was like, and it looked like a Hulk, like the incredible Hulk, it's shaped a glimmerman. And I was having this, this slapping the house. Even slapping, there's a, I live in a converted, it's a converted Victorian mansion.

I live in the apartment, the top quarter of the house. And so it would be slapping even inside on the stairs coming up to my apartment. And it was nightly, and it was sort of around the same time. And it was clearly like a hand. It was like a real sound of a hand. And I did some research into the, this Glimberman Predator thing. And, you know, just found more about. glimmer man than anything else and you know i grew up you know just to jump around a little bit i grew up

with a lot of like very traditional irish stuff and there's there's spirits in ireland called the she they're a co-worker race they're large they're you know they're called the shining ones because they have that glimmer man effect when you see them and um you know they're they're wise and they're benevolent, but, you know, they're kind of tough on you. And, you know, so I grew up with that idea. And I had an aunt who kind of did like a kind of witchy development circle, and they were always part of that circle. And it just, and the thing about the she, right, is the most famous one is the Banshee, which is like it screams and it sounds kind of like a woman, but then it goes into this scarier,

much more dreadful sounding scream. And, you know, it kind of means it's like a death warning. It's how you think about it, so you want to stay away if you hear the Banshee. But, you know, I always thought that very much connected to this material. And, you know, and I was thinking that this was like one of the sheep. You know, I thought that this was a, like, you know, because that predator presentation. and I guess the turning point really came to when I started having these phantom skunky smells and they were they would just come in to all sorts of places and you know including my office in Manhattan

where there was no skunk and then other people that I knew started to have the experience of this weird skunk smell and so then I researched that and they found out there was this psychic medium that she was doing a she was having those experiences she did a psychic fair they put her next to like a native american medicine man they just started talking he said oh you're being visited by the saskatch people and that's like the signature that that's who it is and it's a male and so i thought wasn't that interesting let me let me take a poll of um people that I know and like I would say like I found like

almost 40 people that I knew that was involved in some kind of spiritual work that were having this experience at the same time and one of the people that I reached out to this is around 2016 one of the people that he reached out to was a shaman and he wrote back to me said this is so funny you're writing to me

I'm in a conference in Seattle right now and this is all what everyone's talking about and it was saying that it's the year of the Hindu god Hanuman, who is the king of the monkey people in the Hinduism religion. And so it's like his year and his people and they protect the earth. And so they were saying that this was the year of Hanuman and that the monkey people were making themselves more known that year.

And, you know, so a lot of people were having that experience. And he was like, you know, but we're up here in Seattle, we're thinking more of as Sasquatch. And so that got me really. into looking more and more into the Sasquatch material and that's how I figured out, oh, wow, there's all these things from my history that I never connected to it before. And then it also opened up even more communication, I guess, do mind speak, with a cesswatch elder female that was seemingly wanting to help make a better impression of humans for the

adolescence in her forest people community. One of the things that would happen was, so apparently the glimmer man thing was actually a glimmer woman. It was this female. And one of the things that she was showing up to do was to observe me with my cat and the relationship that I had with my cat and the respect that they have my cat, the love that had of my cat, the rapport that we had. And it was, you know, they kind of led into, like I have a lot of

reverence for nature. I have a lot of reverence for animals and plants and a lot of, a lot of, you know, my life is organized around nature. And she was bringing forth adolescents who were like, I later found out, you know, just are, I guess the big, this is, this is the way the information came to me. That, um, at a certain age, they get told about the different, the different peoples. And they are, they're told about us. It's a very, it's a very, very, almost like a contemptuous feeling towards humans. Because humans have been so hostile to them and so destructive to the planet. And the adolescence in particular end up feeling very begrudged. You know, when they go through the right of passage where they told these stories and given this information, this perspective. And she was trying to kind of drive home to point that it's not all of them. and so I was one that she was kind of using to illustrate,

you know, this is one that has some reverence for nature and, and it gets it, and, you know, just to kind of say they're not, they're not all the same. And that relationship and that dynamic and a lot of stuff that came from her went on for a couple of years. I don't know how much you want me to get into about that, more if you're ready to go backwards, because most of my face-to-face stuff is earlier. Oh, so you have also face-to-face stuff as well. Oh, yeah.

Oh, wow. Okay. So we can even go further back than this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't, when I had the face-to-face stuff, I did not recognize what was going on. And can I just, I'll try to be real quick about this. You know, there's a phenomenon.

I don't know if you ever heard of gifted children. You know, it's kind of a known thing. And it's, you know, education has kind of, you know, taken it and expanded the definition. But psychology first identified that these kids that are very sensitive and they're very affected by their environment

and so they kind of, you know, they're unusual and that they to kind of protect themselves and kind of stay steps ahead of what's coming. They almost hold on to very animalistic abilities that usually you would think of as psychic, but they're actually quite, you know, what animals do,

like entering into like a group mind, like pack animals and slots of birds, schools of fish they have the capacity to kind of tune into the group and kind of sense what's coming and you know they get really good with feelings

and understanding people but also they get a bit precognitive. There's something even maybe electromagnetic to it because there's an overlap with people that are sometimes called sliders that affect technology drain batteries you know drain the cell phones make the light bulb

for an adult sooner than you think. And, you know, like, there's something electrical or electromagnetic to this thing. And so I was one of those kids. Brian, sorry, real quick. Is this kind of like from like in the show, Stranger Things? Okay. Yeah. Just a little bit subtle.

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Like Aboriginal people do it all the time. In Australia, it's boiling by day, freezing by night, so they regulate the body temperature. But because we don't practice and we use some. having like heaters and air conditioners we just we've separated from the ability to do that but you know we have all these abilities and and things in common with animals and um that we could that we could do if we just exercise them and just so just also just to say um in trying to understand why this gifted things happen is now it's called highly emotionally and spiritually intelligent but trying to understand why it happens um it's been studied for a long time and only recently

they've come up with theories like it looks like we're evolving into more of a group-minded species, but also they think it might be some recessive gene from some relic human relative that is coming back to the fore. And so some early human that didn't use speech but could be still connected to their social groups, maybe through a telepathy or group mind or a pack mind, that it's thought that that gene is coming back to the four now. to kind of make us a little bit more of a connective kind of species. And so I just say that because more people like that since the late 80s than ever. Sorry. In listeners, Brian has given me the, he told me ahead of time that I have the ability to interrupt him at times.

So just so that listeners know I'm not going off of what I normally do. What do you think made those genes activate all of a sudden in the last 30, 40 years? Well, because, you know, I think that nature is making it happen. I think that the species, you know, we're born narcissistic, and then we develop more empathy, more connection to others as we get older, supposedly. But then you have to be parented right. You have to be parented in a way that helps you to kind of basically mature out of narcissism. And that just has not been happening. And narcissism is really at the root of all the ills of our world.

Like racism, nationalism, sexism, you know, all the prejudices, even speciesism where like only humans matter. And so it seems like nature is making us become much more of a connective species from birth instead of waiting for good parenting to happen because it's, you know, it's just hasn't been happening in mass. And so I think nature is making this And if the research turns out to be right This recessive gene come back to the forest So we'll be much more connected to each other And then eventually everything else And you know kind of like the rest of the natural world

It's only the humans seem to be completely disconnected this way Or the rest of nature seems to be in dynamic relation with each other And so it does make sense to me The nature would make that happen But I But it makes me think that maybe having that be the case that maybe this, if the research proves that it's because of some well, like, human relative, that maybe we feel like them. And maybe they're recognizing who they can connect with that way. And, you know, and, you know, and it's even a characteristic of this type of person that they have a reverence for nature.

They have a need to be in nature. they feel very connected to the natural world. And, you know, and there's more of people like this since the late 80s than they're ever before. And they, and I'm just thinking maybe that's, that's a possible explanation for why they're reaching out to, who they're reaching out to. You know, and when I was, I guess I was around five, I had stayed with my grandmother in a hospital of relatives when my grandmother and I were with the early risers. It was like 6.30 in the morning.

Nobody else was going to be up till noon. My grandmother had the idea that we should walk a dog to this not so nearby park where, you know, we could just like hang out. And it was so early on a weekend morning that we'd have a place for ourselves. And so we went to this park and we were barely in the park where the grandmother just kind of clunked out. And she sat at the first bench that we came to and really passed out. and which in retrospect was strange,

because my grandmother was actually very protective and it was strange that she wouldn't stay awake to keep an eye on me. But, you know, I just figured, okay, the walk was more than she thought. Even the dog was conced out. So I thought, well, just, you know, I've had these two action figures that brought with me.

I'm just going to play in the stream, but I'm going to cross the stream being on the other side of the stream so I could see my grandmother. And it was not deep into the park at all. There was a main street, Main Street rather that we came in from. There was another connective main street where there was a slow-moving string of cars

entering a parking lot to the Children's Zoo, which is right nearby. And I share that because it's part of the story. But otherwise it was very quiet. Nobody else was there that early on the weekend morning. And so I just am playing with these little figures in the stream. And, you know, I was across the stream, so I was within. shot of my grandmother. And I was like, you know, I guess it was, you know, I knew about kidnappers.

I knew about stray dogs. I knew about mean older kids. I was not like so caught up in my play that I wasn't paying attention. So I was surprised when all of a sudden there was this weird hairy girl. And she, she like, head and shoulders told me, I'm going to describe it, but this was really fast. It all happened really fast. but it just made an impact. Head and shoulders, swallows.

She looked like she had Down syndrome. She, I don't know how many Catholics you have where you are, but I was raised Catholic and on a holiday called Ash Wednesday, you get this ash oil mixture of, you know, it gets painted in the form of a cross in your forehead. Her whole skin looked like it was this oily ash, you know, like gray, blotchy, oily thing. You know, like she just covered her whole skin.

She looked like a baby orangutan, like tufts of hair on top, little spots of hair. I don't remember Jen Mills, but I always think of her as a girl. She was, like, this is another piece that's weird. I would have thought I would be weirded out by her, but I was delighted. I was so delighted to see her. I was like so, I just was like, just so excited by her. and she was you know

like I took it to be like shy she was avoiding eye contact she was like a swing a little bit looking at me side eye but really not really looking at me and then all of a sudden she was like so quick

she like turned my hands put her like reach under my fingers around my toys and started taking them and she was so strong that when she pulled them she pulled me and I let out this

involuntary in New York, hey, just like, real quick, just involuntary. And as soon as I made that noise, she dropped them, turned, and she did this weird, like, you know, it's like, how people describe this weird, floaty, like, the way she's moving, the physics wasn't lining up with the movement. Like, it just kind of shorted my brain out a little bit. And my grandmother heard, herb might me, you know, say, hey, and so she started calling me, But the girl, like she jumped over like a bush that should not have covered her.

But when she went over that bush or floated over the bush, whatever it is that she did, she was gone. And there wasn't enough brush beyond to conceal her, but she was just gone. And so I went to, you know, well, first I went to the stream and I had to, like, I had to wash my hands and my fingers because, like, she was so, like, I took, I, I thought. I thought sweaty, but like a slimy. She felt like slimy. And it felt like my toys had this sweat on them. And I just watched her real quick in this dream. I went and told my grandmother.

And she surmised, well, she must be part of the event at the zoo that these cars are lined up for. And that made enough of an explanation for me. But like, you know, I was like, okay. You know, and why couldn't see her past when she jumped over the bush? I'd just let it go. And it was just, you know, like just a weird mom. moment that I just didn't, I didn't think Sasquatch. It just thought she was just part of the zoo event. And then the next one was like maybe, you know, it could be a year or two later.

I went, I was in the Catskills. And I was, I was sorry, real quick, before we go to a completely different location, I want to chat about, because that's a different story. So, so Staten Island, I'm looking on a map. Was this Staten Island Zoo area? Yes. Okay. So the interesting thing is, and I'm sure listeners know about the Bigfoot mapping project, and you go to Bigfootmap.com.

It's cool because you can see areas lit up where there's a lot of activities. And I'm not saying that Staten Island has activity, but it is really interesting how, if you look on a map, that it is relatively, you know, close to that north, New Jersey area that has so much Bigfoot activity. And who's to say that a random Bigfoot or a family could swim across some water or take the bridge across and end up on the island? We don't know.

But we are saying, I'm saying that, yeah, it's in relative proximity to a ton of action that happens in the North New Jersey area. I believe it's Sussex County. So yeah, I just wanted to point that out to any listeners that are like, well, this sounds a little wild because it's in New York City. But look at the full picture, guys. There's stuff going on. Yeah, the pine barrens are, you could swim, you know, and we have, we have all sorts of, like, as I guess New Jersey has been development, so much wildlife has come over here that we never had before. And so it's, you know, so yeah, we're really close to New Jersey.

Even though it's part of New York City, it's much closer to New Jersey. Okay, so that's interesting. So you're saying you're actually in pretty close proximity to the pine barons as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy, yeah, that's a whole different story because there's so much activity in the pine barons I've talked to people over the years. It's wild. And there are other sightings of South Squatch on Staten Island. They call Trash Squatch.

Really? every time anybody sees it's going through the garbage. Can you share any of those sightings that you've heard? I've only, I only know one, and it was, you know, it was like in the 70s, this woman, you know, this one woman came forward about it. I know there's a man right now that has a life-size Sasquot silhouette in his yard, and he will not talk about why he has it in his yard. He won't talk about what it means, why he has it there.

But it's, you know, but this woman that's, that saw it. And, you know, it's, like, it's researchable. It's like I Googled. I don't know of her. So I found it on Google. But like, she had that experience. And then she said that other people that she knew had told her that they've had, they've seen them going through the garbage.

That's incredible. I mean, well, there you go. So there's a history. And I hope people reach out if, if you know, someone who saw, you know, Trask Watch back in the 1970s, but the gentleman that has it in his yard, did you try to talk to him directly? I just, I just fined out about him even relatively recently, you know, because they think their local paper was trying to figure out, like, what does it mean?

Why do you have this up here? What's going on? Did you see one? And he was, I think he was evasive about it. Ah, gotcha. Interesting. And he's in the much more woodsy section. Like, I'm in a more of like a suburban type section.

And he's a little bit more towards the part of the island that is much. So, yeah, talk to me a little bit about that. So you're saying there is a pretty good part of Staten Island that actually has woods on it? Oh, yeah. It's called the Green Belt, and you're not allowed to develop there. And a lot of it is like swamp land. You know, it's not really hospitable for just traipsing about even. It's, it's, it's, you know, there's just a rule against developing on it.

So it, and it's a huge swath of the island. How many? And it is a part by the pine barrens. Like that, and it's over there. It's over that part of the island. Any idea how many acres you might be looking at for this green belt area? I don't, but I can tell you, Staten Island itself is like the size of three Manhattan. So it's like, so it's pretty big.

So here's the crazy thing. So you have, you know, places like, let's say down in Florida, you've got the green swamp, which is a small area and it's got development all around it but yet there are very active Sasquatch populations that are being researched currently by people like Matt from central Florida Bigfoot down there and so it's not out of the not out of the question that you know even on satin island you could have potentially a wooded area like this could be some things going on in there. Especially because, you know, belief informs perception. And so people here do not believe. This is not in people's consciousness. So people can walk right past them and they're not going to register them.

You know, or they'll make some other sense of it if they perceive it. They're not going to, they're not going to really appreciate what it is if they see it. Exactly. And that's, that's thinking that it is viewable as a Sasquatch, not even. that maybe it's in a shimmer mode or a predator mode where you it's you know just a wavy type thing so you might be looking right at it and you have no idea right right oh man and all of new work is is very um you know lots of caves and you know like lots of you know it's like the whole all of new york is rocks and caves and cliffs and mountains and you know even stettnallens very mountainous and and you know so there's and and so there's a lot of um probably underground opportunity

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Text IHeart to 50505 today. You know, for them to kind of go unnoticed, yeah. Well, that is fascinating. That could bring up a whole, I mean, I could see there could be a few people contacting me with discussions about that area. But you said that there was also some interesting things that happened out in the Catskills, which is a totally different area of New York. That's upstate, yeah. And the Catskills, like when I was not too much older, I went away with a friend's family and we were staying. in a cabin and we went to this kind of resort area called North Lake.

And it's actually north and South Lake, but only North Lake has lifeguards. And so there was a kind of a mode service roadway, just like mowed grass, where I guess the utility vehicles go back and forth. And my friend's mother gave us permission to just quickly go down to check out South Lake and come back. and she gave us 15 minutes, but we didn't have watches. It was just an estimation, so we're just kind of going to hustle down, take a peek, and hustle back.

And my friend and his brother was so excited that we were being given this freedom, that they were just chattering away and not really talking to each other or to me that just kind of talking. So I, it was just kind of tuned out. And as we're kind of making away quickly down the South Lake, at a corner of my eye, I saw what I thought was like a, like a cigar store Indian kind of carving, but it looked more like a gorilla.

And it was very still, and it was very much the color of the trees and the wood of the trees. And it was, you know, like it was like a canopy of leaves and everything, so it wasn't like the best lip. It was right off the path. And it just sort of at the corner of my eye, looked at it, took a few more steps,

thought, well, it's weird that it's like a gorilla. Why would it be shaped like a gorilla? And then I looked back and the face was a little bit different. The face looked like a, almost like a scared kind of grimacing face. And I thought, well, that's weird. But it was so still and so, like, uniform color with the rest of the woods that I just thought it was like a carving. And we were going to zip down, zip back. So I just figured I'd check it out on the way back.

And I told my friends about it and said, well, we'll take a better look on the way back. When we came back, it was gone. And I really think that was another one. And it was, but it was a different look. It was like a much more like a, it was like a paddy kind of like, you know, rolls, like kind of rounded, you know, looking like a heavy brow and, you know, and the teeth in particular, like it was just all just square shaped teeth. But it was such a, you know, it just looked weird that it would be, you know, I would, I would not be surprised for like some kind of a carving in that, in that resorty area, but it just was strange that it was a gorilla.

And then I looked at it twice and then it was gone. And we like went back, you know, we really, really looked for it and it was just gone. And, you know, not, not, it wasn't terribly big or, you know, memory is not perfect, but I. I would put around five feet tall, a tall of the mouse and round and bulky and really still. It stood really, really still. And so that was the second one. And so it went two more. Oh, yeah.

That's, I mean, Cat Skills is such, there's such an interesting area. I've been there myself as a child. Used to be the Catsdale Game Park, which is no longer there. But that's, that's, I mean, there's. so many other sightings in that area as well. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, go right ahead.

Right. So the third one, I have two of the same, two different experiences of I think the same ones. And it was like 2002. A friend of mine took me to Lillardale, Newark, which is an outside of, it's an hour outside of Buffalo. Lillardale is famous in the world. It's like the mecca of the religious. religion of spiritualism, but for this community, it's famous for, it's built around Lake Casadega, and they excavated giant skeletons from the shoreline of Lake Casadega.

They get taken to, I guess, a museum in Buffalo, and then brought someplace else to be put in display, get written up in newspapers and everything. And then somehow between the ending of that exhibition and when it was supposed to be brought back to wherever it was in Buffalo, they disappeared. So that's what people in this community might know about Lilladell. And the documentary called the Man Beast of Western New York, a 23 documentary that really talks about that part of New York and Lilydale and that whole situation. But in 2002, I had no idea about any of that. And the spiritualists have a platform, a giant stump that they would historically give readings from. And it's in this kind of virgin forest.

You have to walk through this pathway to access. And on the day that we got there, there had been a big storm. And they were afraid to let people go through the woods for fear of falling branches. And so it was closed off when my friends and I, we decided, well, let's just, we're just going to go and take a look for ourselves. And so we went into the woods. We're going down the path. We're the only ones in there. And something was trailing us on the side.

And, you know, and it had the feel of, like, teenage prankster type, you know, somebody just trailing us and stopping when we stop. And, you know, and so we're just, we walked down the trail. And it went all the way, where it was went all the way down with us. And then when we came back, we decided to sit on the bench to see what happens. And out of all periphery, we could see. them like they were behind some fallen trees popping up and they thought let me try to take a picture of my friend but i'll try to get them in the picture because we could see it was a very

weird presentation that looked like i would say it looked like they had fur scuba gear on with just the faces and the hands exposed and they were they were tall and lanky and they had some kind of like like some kind of gear like a like a little bag or something but they had some kind of gear on their shoulders and they were just popping up peeking at us if we went to look at them full on they pulled away

and then the picture I got them but where they aren't their image in the picture looks like almost like there's like a coffee scene or something over them like just it came out discolored you know where they are in the pictures you kind of see them but it just

it's a little blemish in the in the in the in the picture but um you know no idea of not thinking about as saskatch but it was like they looked like native american the faces looked like very like um sharp native american kind of features um but human you know just very just sharp features and kind of like the red skin and um during the same trip um lillodale's famous for like having a kind of an energy that makes it hard to sleep. My friend slept just fine, but I couldn't sleep. And they said, well, there's always people that can't sleep walking around. So if you just go outside at night, there's always going to be somebody else that can't sleep that you can talk to.

And it was true. I went out and there were plenty of people out. And so I just, I just was walking around and I decided I would not only, again, check out the woods, but I would make a detour into a pet cemetery that was like off the trail. And when I went into the pet cemetery, I could see four of these guys standing all around like a new grave at the far end of the cemetery. And it was my first time ever seen the cemetery, so we didn't have a sense of like the scale of anything, but there was a fence at the back of the cemetery that turns out to be about five feet, five and a half feet. And these guys are perfectly still just standing around this grave. They're looking kind of reverent.

You know, kind of like, you know, just standing in very similar position, head down. But at some point, I got, you know, as I was easing into getting closer to them, they just abruptly all turned in unison. And the way that they all went over the fence just was, it didn't make sense. Because they, they must have been about like maybe seven feet tall. But even to, you know, they'd have to like hop over this five foot tall fence. But they could like, you know, one of them looked like a. floated, one of them looked like its leg extended so it could step over.

It was just so weird, my brain shorted out again, trying to take in what they were doing. You know, it was just, however they moved, it just didn't make sense. And then, and in that documentary, they have Native American art depicting what I saw. These, and they're very, they're tall, they're skinny. It's just the, the humanish face, all black. and the hands, you know, like they exposed, like, fleshy hands and face. And, you know, in the images they depicted as very gigantic chasing the Native Americans. But it was exactly what I saw.

And now that, according to that documentary, that is thought to be the nexus of upstate New York right now, of, like, the activity. You know, so that was my, that was my next one. It's incredible that you share that because I've talked to an individual. His name is Ryan Reading. This is back in April. He's spent years and years researching Western New York in that same area just outside of Lillydale. And everything that you just said, I mean, he's pretty much saying similar things where there's, you know, Bigfoot he's running into in the woods. And the way that they're interacting is just, you know, stuff that would be concerned.

considered, you know, potentially like mind speak, et cetera. And that interview I had with him kind of changed a lot of things the way I looked at things regarding the subject. But that's episode 418. It's a member's only episode. So a lot of, a few people haven't seen it. But I just wanted to say, I mean, you're not the only one that has experienced that type of activity in that same area. It's intense out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then my last one is another one that's Stent Island. in maybe around 2010. I had a dog, and I was walking around maybe 1230 at night, and we could hear this incredibly loud owl hooting. It looks super loud, like a booming owl hoot. And first of all, we didn't get a lot of owls over here. So, I mean, so it's just weird even to just hear an owl, a little longer it was booming.

And we walked for blocks before we found people, standing under this tree where they said this owl was was up there and um i looked i went under the tree and i looked up and it didn't look like an owl look like it to me it looked like a child in a onesy clutching the tree really and it didn't and it didn't do any of those you know usually like a bird with like the feathers rustle or like the you know certainly an owl like the head moves around and it was just that i've even seen like somebody took a film one time of what they thought was a baby's Watch just like completely lives around the bear

tree top, head tucked in and the people in that video like is that a bear? What is that? It doesn't have ears. Like, you know, what if it? It looked exactly like that just from below, but it looked like a kid in a onesie. And the hooting was so

like, was so loud, like, just incredibly loud. And so I you know, I know that I have since learned like that's a thing. You know, like that's, you know, and, you know, it's, it sounds like the animal, but the volume is just over the top. Oh, it's absolutely a thing. Yeah, it's absolutely a thing. I mean, I've got reports just recently from Oregon where, you know, they hear loud, large ravens, loud, large owls that are way too big for a normal owl. It's just, yeah, that is an absolute thing. All right. So I didn't, I didn't see anything during COVID, but.

We had a lot of activity I think with Sasquatch during COVID, and at least during COVID. I knew what it was by then. Really? But they were making, like, you know, it makes me think of the Banshee. They were making, we had so much ambulance activity. And they lived right down, right by the hospital, right down the street from the hospital. Okay. And they were making, booming, like, siren sounds.

There's a lot right behind me where they were. were making it sounded like they were imitating like you know like the sounds of cars as they come closer and then they drive off like they were just imitating the sounds and so it sounded like a like a human imitation of motorcycles of cars and like the sound of them approaching being in front of you and then driving off but it was all coming from the same area and um you know and just and and the sirens up at the hospital and my neighbors we you know we shut down um in march and my next her neighbor um she graduated from high school and so her mother said you know i want to have a little party so let's just have the immediate neighbors come over and during her party everyone's talking

about are you hearing there's weird crashing noises of those deer there's like this you know there's stuff crashing to the lot it's like crazy and then another couple was saying yeah and there's this this this It's weird. I don't know if they're Chinese. They're going through a garbage. Sounds like husband and wife fighting, talking in Chinese, going through a garbage. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. And now a break from our sponsor, Miracle Grow. Let's be real.

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Yeah, just all sorts of stuff like that. And, you know, everyone's talking about they felt like someone's watching in the woods. They feel like there's somebody watching them. There's like everyone's talking about that. The woods is, it's a lot right behind my house. And this is, just to say this too, it's the, there's a church that took, that replaced a house where there was a big arboreum, and the arboreum was the length of several backyards, including mine.

And the church replaced the house, but it left the arboreum, and it was like a big kind of lot of overgrown plants. And, like, my whole, I grew up in this neighborhood, nope, it's always been like that. It's always been overgrown and messy. And, you know, even, like, too overgrown to play it. Like, you know, for the kids to, like, use the lot. It was just too overwhelming this whole volume.

And everyone felt, was feeling like there's somebody living back there and watching. And it was making everybody nervous. And I was having, and they had like a mind speak experience. And it, and it was like, look what I did. And it at one point it was like, look what I did. And it made an X, a big X with two big sticks or whatever, like, you know, just two trees, two young trees. and then it had like I don't know like some kind of

like a lean to TP thing like it was just like it built these things and it was like saying come come come look and come see and and it was it was saying it was like excited like a kid but I was at the point in my my reading about stuff there was like you know cannibals

and you know she was like I think I didn't want to go and so I didn't so I was like I'm not I said I'm not coming And then it just, it just, like, I offended it. I feel like it's, and it just shut right off. But anyway, I wrote, after that, I wrote to Christopher Noel. Yeah, up in Vermont. Who does all the pre-structure stuff.

Yeah. And, you know, so I wrote to him and he was like, oh, people tell me more. So I wrote back. I never heard back from him. So the first time in all the years that I've been in this neighborhood, like when I was a kid, and then they came back in the old 2000s, they cleaned, they moored it all. They cleaned up that lot for the first time ever right after I sent that letter to him. So I don't know if that's coincident.

I don't know what that's about, but it was like for the first time ever, people came in there and cleaned it up. That's really interesting. Yeah, that was strange. I also want to... And during COVID. I also want to address something so that people new to Bigfoot doesn't, don't think that we were saying something else.

But so when you were referring to hearing something that's how much, sounded like Chinese language and I was like, oh, that's really cool. Why I thought that was really cool is because that, to me, sounds like the Sierra sounds that were recorded back in the 1970s with Ron Moorhead. And so whenever you hear that, you're like, oh, wow, that is very, very cool. So that's for the new listeners, that's why I was like, that's pretty cool. Right. So, man, the more you tell me this whole, Staten Island Sasquatch,

trash squatch could be something there, man. That's some pretty wild stuff. And what's funny is like the parks are not, they're not like wild parks. Like they're, you know, they're modestly sized and like there's always you know, you can,

nothing so far away can't still here treat, you know, the street traffic. But I like I have seen what looked like like smaller versions of the structures, right? And so I was thinking, you know, when I even thought maybe there's some other Sasquatch enthusiasts

and it's, you know, and it didn't seem gigantic, it didn't seem like some of the things you see, like, you know, that people find deep in the woods. Right. But, but I recently heard somebody else in another podcast talked about the kids, the children's Sasquatch practice, building them. And it looks like the scale.

And when I was having my mind speaking experience with this female, she was all about the kids. Like she was all about like trying to bring the kids. And so, you know, it just gave me this. I was wondering if like maybe the kids come here and the kids are practicing doing stuff. And they're practicing the mimicry. They're practicing the tree structure. It's probably a pretty safe place. You know, there's no hunting.

Nobody believes that it's them. You know, it's like. Right. Yeah, absolutely. It's probably like, you know, yeah, so it's probably like so, so it, and it's very close to New Jersey. And, um, um, you know, even, and, and, uh, I've had, I've had these, it's more of like, the Wu kind of experience where like it's almost like a, you know, like almost like a spirit, like a projection, the hologram kind of a child Sasquot that kind of gives me like a mental zap. But it's like that, it's like, like if you, like a teenager, annoying.

an animal. You know, it's like, it's like, they think it's funny. And, you know, so I've had such a strong sense of the kids. Like, even during COVID, there was, there was, you know, like, we could hear crawling around on our roof. And it was, it was not big and it was mischievous, you know, and it was like, you know, it was like, you know, making enough noise to notice it, but then, like, you know, skitter away to look at the window.

And, you know, and so just like, like, I, that's, that's my. working theory that it's like this is like a place where they're bringing the kids you know that's kind of their big summer camp training area or something who knows something i don't know so yeah you you have all that stuff going on around covid now was the stuff from earlier going on at the same time where there was like the cloaking effect the glimmer stuff and the slapping of the house was that all at the same time it's stuff no it was well the the stuff during COVID i almost want to say it feels like there are just like spring.

Everything seems to happen in spring. You know, especially June. You know, and there were some things like the house slapping. That can happen almost any time. But a lot of the other activity seems to be like a springtime activity.

And, you know, we have we have a lot of stuff they could eat here. you know, that during the spring is when you would really see them like a lot of deer, a lot of turkey, you know, like there's just, it would maybe make sense they might come when it's, you know, they can come and eat and there's no competition here, you know. So hold on. That's interesting. So I didn't realize that. So you actually have, you're saying a lot of deer and turkey in these wooded areas on Staten Island, really? Not even the wooded areas. They were on the street. Like since since 2000,

the extent now that I grew up with was like pigeons, squirrels, and, you know, sparrows. Now we have herds of deer running around. Turkey's run the streets like street gangs. You know, it's really just, we have otters. We have seals. It's the best place to see seals on the eastern seaboard now. You know, we have a lot of wildlife here, a lot of sea life here.

There's, you know, and it's really, it's had a real renaissance that way. And when the spring comes, the dears are running around all over the place. They went through all the parks. They run through the streets. The turkeys are everywhere. So, yeah, there's plenty for them to eat. And is it a thing where, you know, it looks like surrounding Staten Island? You've got a lot of city, right?

It's, you know, there's New York. There's Manhattan and Brooklyn. And then we're really, like, it's like New Jersey spoon in Staten Island. You don't think it's very, very close. Yeah. You know. Wow, this is, I mean, I, when I'd heard from you earlier and you'd mentioned Staten Island, I was not thinking about this area in this way. It's wild.

That's wild, dude. Man, I'm going to be keeping an eye on it for sure. Because I've been, you know, I keep in touch with some individuals out of South Jersey. This guy is a swamp dog who's great. And then there's a few individuals from. North Jersey as well, but I mean, yeah, adds Staten Island right to it, I think. This is very interesting. I mean, I think they're everywhere, you know. I think that they, you know, I think that you just, you know, they're just really smart and they just know how to avoid us. And, you know,

and Staten Island is really low key and it's, and we just, you know, even, I mean, I don't, I don't think that Staten Islanders take advantage of all the parks. all the green belt. So, you know, anytime you do go, it's never really that popular. Clove Lakes is maybe the most popular on the weekend,

but the rest of the time it isn't. And, you know, so they, they can probably go really on, you know, like it's just not, like St.

It's a mall place. So they'd rather go to the mall than the park. Gotcha. You know, so it's like, so they can really, they can really probably have the run of things here,

you know. Are you still... And the greenbelt is dense. So it's very dense, gotcha. Yeah, it's dense. Interesting. You had mentioned earlier that you were talking to a Sasquatch, elder, female, and having mind-speak with the individual. Is that something you're still actively doing?

You know, I mostly get... See, when that was happening, I was actually teaching a class. And I think that she was, she was wanting to, like, she was bringing these young, males and I think trying to like broaden their perspective on humans. But she was also weighing in on this class that I was teaching. It was like I'm a, I got certified as an ecotherapist, so like using nature in therapy. That's another, that's so like there's a lot of transpersonal ecotherapists even. And so I was, I was teaching a class and it was very much like using a lot of like shamanic

skills and and you know she's giving a lot of stuff about like um at the time it was like about like you know rhythms and being trying to be in rhythm with the seasons and you know stuff that's very very like typical shamanic stuff and so she's just wanting to underscore a lot of stuff and she was like you know like i like it you know i think i'm so the best of my ability to describe it it it's It's like, you know, that expression, book, Smart, Life, dumb. Right. I think that's how they look at us. I think they look at us as, like, we're dumb about everything that really matters.

And so I think that, so, like, a lot of what she was doing was really trying to, like, get me to, like, understand stuff that's to them is very basic. And it was stuff that had to do with, like, you know, just how important it is to live in rhythm with nature. And, you know, again, having reference for nature, using nature, using the resources available in nature for healing. And it was just stuff that was very in line with like the class I was teaching. So it was, um, you know, she was, she was, like, it was almost like a barter. And she was like letting these, she was bringing these kids around and like showing them things. And, um, it again, very interested in my relationship with my cat, very interested in the way that, that I, you know, like, I just, like, I treated with respect. Like, they were really into that.

And, um, uh, it's, yeah, it's been. But since then, I've been getting, and this is something other people have talked about, too. I've been getting this, like, an elder male is like a, like, white hair with a one white eye. Really? And, yeah. And I get it like a, I get it like a spirit form. I get it like a, you know, like a projection or hologram or whatever. But it reminds me of Odin in Norse mythology.

And it seems like it's very much like. like teaching, guiding, you know, because it's more of that same, like, you know, what you have to do, the same rhythm with the plan or what you have to do, like, how the type of relationships we're supposed to have with life. You know, and just, you know, it's so, it's so, you know, like a lot of them, like, like, looking to Native American, with some looking to Native American practices, even explaining, like, a lot of what they do that people think is so mysterious, is like Native Americans can do it. Like Native Americans know how to walk with them, making noise. Native Americans know how to be dramatic

to intimidate people. You know, like they just, they're really pointing me in a lot of directions of like where, you know, where the wisdom is already accessible. And once upon a time, the humans just had it across the world. And now, and we've just separated from it.

But, you know, like really, I think that's part of why, again, like with Barb, I think I'm feeling like they're not only trying to reconnect with us, but I think they want us to get back to a relationship with the natural world, it's more like theirs, especially because I think we're at critical levels now. And it affects them too, whatever we, whatever we do to the Earth affects them too. Oh, I mean, in a way, there might be some, I really don't want to rabbit trail on this, but it almost kind of reminds me of how when the point in history, when we're going into like,

have almost having issues with nuclear weapons and then UFOs will show up and shut stuff down. Yeah. Kind of sounds a little similar maybe, but who knows what's going on out there. Did they ever provide names for themselves when you were talking to them? So the, do you know, um, what's, um, is it Kalani, Kalani? Do you know him? He has a book out, right? He's got a book out?

Yeah. Okay. I haven't talked to him, but I know who you're talking about, yeah. Okay. So his wife is like she does the psychic Sasquatch communication. And she, when I just went to her and I said, you know, I just said, I'm having an experience. I don't want to give you any information. She said, you have this elder female comes to when she's bringing the young man.

And I was like, that's right. That's exactly. And so she gave me the name, Nanit. And what's funny is that the name Nanette is an important name in my life. Even the friend that I went to Lilita with, the name is Nanette. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. And now a break from our sponsor, Miracle Grow.

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Yeah. What's also interesting is I was just going to ask and you kind of answered it preemptively, but do you think she was going to other individuals besides yourself as well? I bet that's okay. I mean, I do. I think that they keep tabs on us. Like, I feel like they, I feel like they, you know, You know, people talked about the, they mark us, so they're like, but I think that they keep tabs on us.

And so I think that she's doing other things with other people and other places. And she was, she would just kind of come, come by for the purpose of, you know, like, trying to, trying to broaden these young adolescent men, male Sasquatch's perspective on humans. because again, I do think they hold this in a kind of contempt. I mean, sorry to if this is a little tangential, but like, I really think that a lot of these seven-foot-tall rob your camp, steal your food, I think that's adolescents. I think that's adolescent behavior. I think it's hormonal. I think it's they want, just like our humans, they don't want the healthy food. They want our crap food.

You know, it's very much. But I also think that they're brought up on story. that give them a contempt for us, and they think that's in the mix, too. You know, that they have, like, a hostility towards us because of the stories that they're raised with. Can you imagine the stories they must have, what their viewpoint of certain things must be. It must be incredible. Just, I can't imagine. Right.

Did she ever say where she was based out of, like, if she was talking to you from a certain area? I felt like she must be local. You know, like, you know, because they, like I said, I even feel like she was keeping tabs on me. And even sometimes the younger men would just, they'd pop up on their own. And they just, just to watch, they're just watching, you know, just observing.

And it would really be, you know, like I had, you know, Like, even just with my cat, just to say, my cat, a really great rapport with her. Like, you know, I even feel like one time I got up from the couch and went to theater, and I just realized, I think she just told me her food is empty, a bowl's empty. And it was. And it was like, I think my cat just communicated to me. And so, like, I was thinking that something like that is what made them interested in the relationship, that it was like a we weren't so in rapport.

And when she died and we buried her in the yard, they put this at what at the time, it didn't understand what it was. It was this strange, you know, it looked like a weird deformed tree, but it was the tree turned upside down with the roots. Like, you know, it was like the top of the tree in the ground and the root, the ball of roots was exposed.

And they put that behind, where she was buried. Do you have pictures of that? You know, I don't. I, yeah, I just didn't think that way. But, you know, I mean, I wasn't, I never was thinking I would go public than anything. So I took a picture of the X in the yard to send a Chris from up with Christopher Noel. That's about the only picture that they took of anything going on in the yard.

Also, it's very hard to lose a, to go through a loss, I guess. So I'm sorry for that as well. Thank you. Thank you. You experienced that. But it's just, it's fascinating, though, that they did that. If you look at what is found in places like Southeast Alaska, Prince of Wales Island, Pacific Northwest, you see things like that, you know? That tree upside down. And that's just, that is, to me, is fascinating that you experienced that.

Well, and also at the time, I didn't know that was a thing, you know, so it's like that's, you know, so it was. It was just a weird, you know, I didn't even, I didn't recognize that's what it was at all until I started reading more Sasquatch material. And they said, this is like a marker there. And said, oh, that's what they did when my cat died. You mentioned that. So you are, and I know some of this, you have to be careful because, you know, you are of what your line of work is. But so you are, you talk to quite a few people and help them through what they've seen regarding Sasquatch. the main Sasquatch thing that people went through was the smell.

You know, the phantom smell. And most like the, whatever, that's just a thing that happens. You know, I got a lot of certifications, you know, and so I got certified as a Chi-Gong instructor. And one of the reasons why I got that certification is because from a Chi-Gong perspective, the more healthy you are, the more intuitive and more psychic. And even if you're not intuitive and psychic, that means you're not well. And so my clients, as they got better, they started to get more psychic and more intuitive. And their experiences were more with, you know, like the dead or intuitions and synchronicitities and things like that.

I have one client that had an experience where he woke up and, to the best of his ability, he said that he thought it was like a sheep that was like it was looking down at him. Like it was like, you know, he said it was like a big sheep. And I think that was, I think that was, you know, he just, he, his brain made sense of it as a sheep, but I think that was that he had a Sasquatch experience. And if that, that's the, that's the closest that I know of. And, you know, but in transpersonal psychology, there's like, you know, there's even a book called spiritual emergency. And I believe they have a chapter on, you know, like UFOs and Sasquatch, you know, that

people and people have those experiences and how it seems like it goes one of two ways. Either opens up the whole paradigm of what's possible, and that's why they have so many different kinds of experiences that it's, you know, they see Skastewatch, all of a sudden, then they're seeing extraterrestrials and ghosts and, et cetera, or the people get so scared, they lock down, and it's like, it's just an ape in the woods, and it's just Nephilim, and it's just, you know, it's just going to still fit into my preexisting beliefs, and they just really double down because they're so unnerved by it. But it's, you know, that's why the, in transpersonal psychology, they acknowledge that, like,

you know, there's got to be something going on that all these people have these experiences, you know, a lot of, like, people that have abductions and things like that, transpersal therapy addresses it. Wow. So you've had years and years to work through this, just think of, think through it, and you've experienced so many things. And have you come to a point where, you know, know, you can say this is what Sasquatch is to me.

I have a strong idea. I don't feel like I'm an expert. But I feel like they are, I think it's, I think there's a whole bunch of different relic humans that survived. And they think that they've mostly gone underground. I think that, you know, that, first of all, anthropology and archaeology told us that they have been practicing shamanism forever. And so after all this time, they're probably really amazing at it.

And so I think that they have these abilities. And I think that, you know, those abilities open them up to all sorts of other kinds of, well, you might, I don't know if you want to see spiritual beings, but they think that the fairies and the extraterrestrials and like all that's why they're all in relation because they think that the shamanic ability is just, like shaman's open to all those things. And so I think that they have just mastered all that

shamanic stuff, and so they can do these amazing things that are probably things humans could do too if they believed in practiced and were trained. But I think that these are still surviving relic humans that have largely

on underground. And I think it's more than one type of relic human. I think it's, you know, and they're vibrant. You know, I think they've been to breath. And I think they're really intelligent. I think they're super intelligent. I think they're not apes.

And they are super intelligent. Oh, is that, you know. This is Sophia Bush from Work in Progress with Sophia Bush. And now a break from our sponsor, Miracle Grow. Let's be real. We're all feeling a little digitally distracted and time starved lately. We're craving real connections and ways to unplug. And honestly, gardening is the ultimate way to.

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Do you have any advice of how they might best deal with that? Well, first, I would say, like, be respectful, you know, and, you know, just maybe even consider, you know, I mean, unless you're one of the people, you're coming to close to their children, you know, if you're one of the people that they're actually reaching out to somehow, you know, I would really feel honored by it. I think they don't just trust, you know, easily. I think that you've probably done something that they've gotten a good impression of you. And, you know, and I think that just really respect goes a long way.

I think they, you know, they can read intentions. They think they can basically communicate with us, whether it's actually through our language or through just, you know, just energy that we translate ourselves. like I don't know, but I would just say that to meditate, to be, to really just try to be still, to not be afraid, you know, to not, don't, don't just assume all those are the worst. You know, I don't think that the ones that reach out are the ones to be worried about. I think that, you know, I think that, you know, I think that you could go to, like, a spiritual, church and practice the skills of mediumship and it would probably lend itself to having more communication, more contact with them. And the spiritualists don't care if you're not a spiritualist,

they'll teach you. They'll just want to spread their words. So it's a place to learn skills. But I think that mostly if you just could be still and just meditate, I think that they'll take it from there, really. Extremely interesting. Brian, it has been such an interesting conversation with you. Brian, psychotherapist from Staten Island, New York City. The conversation went areas I wasn't expecting, and I'm glad it did. But thank you so much for coming on. I know that we've kept you at first name only.

I'm going to get a lot of emails. Are there ways people can contact you, or maybe we'll leave it to fate if people run across your path, they might be able to talk to you someday? Well, like maybe I'll check the comments or something and about me and they'll reach up. I like that idea. I'll see what I can do. I mean, I'm, you know, the only reason I'm keeping it on the download is, is not because I'm so closed about it. I'm actually quite open with my community about this.

It's just my, I'm fault. My caseloads really fault, you know. Absolutely. My practice is false. So there you go. guys, if you put something in the comments and you never know if Brian might be watching and he might reach out to you. But Brian, thank you so much for coming on. It has been a pleasure. It's my honor. And thank you so much. Thank you so much for what you're doing and for, you know,

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