Bigfoot Society - Searching for Sasquatch with Jason Kenzie and Chad Datema

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Join us in this thrilling episode as we delve into the mysterious world of Sasquatch with Jason Kenzie, a renowned filmmaker and photojournalist, and Chad Datema, Bigfoot researcher.' Jason recounts h...is evolution from wedding photographer to documenting Bigfoot encounters, sharing spine-tingling stories of footprints, tree structures, and eerie noises in the remote North American forests. Chad takes us behind the scenes of their documentary efforts, revealing the dedication and challenges faced during week-long forest expeditions and the intricate editing process. Discover their investigative techniques, collaborative team efforts, and get a sneak peek at their upcoming projects and potential live broadcasts. Tune in for a blend of adventure, fun, and a serious quest for the elusive evidence of Sasquatch on this episode of Bigfoot Society.Resources:https://searchingforsasquatch.cahttps://www.facebook.com/searchingforsasquatchfilm/Watch Jason Kenzie on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@JasonKenzieWatch Searching for Sasquatch on Tubi:https://tubitv.com/person/281914/jason-kenzieSearching for Sasquatch graphic novel (Amazon Affiliate link)https://amzn.to/3yPBBYrShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:10 You've got the privilege of talking to Jason Kenzie. Jason Kenzie is a filmmaker. You may have seen some of his work. I'm going to have him talk about that in just a minute, but I was privileged to be able to meet him at the Oak Ridge, Oregon, Sasquatch Summerfest Festival just recently earlier this year. It was a privilege chatting with him and being able to be involved with some interesting research, which you will all hear about in different ways.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Jason, how's it going today? Very good. Thanks for asking you, I do you mind sharing with the audience a little bit about what it is that you do and how you got into all this wild Bigfoot stuff? Okay. I've always been a photographer and photojournalist. I actually started as a event and wedding photojournalist and photographer. And then one day someone walked up to me at an event and said, hey, would you take pictures
Starting point is 00:03:08 of my dog? And I was like, okay, I could take pictures of the dog. But you want to be in the picture? And the owner's like, no. I said, okay. And I met up with them and I took these beautiful pictures of his dog. And he told me some stories about his dog that really touched me that made me think, I wonder if other people have similar stories about their pets.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So I started doing photography with people's pets and asking them questions about interesting things about their pets, like their dogs and cats. So one day someone came to me and said, hey, I have a pet Cayman, which is similar to a crocodile or an alligator. I was about three to four feet long and it lived in a makeshift aquarium bathtub in his basement. So after telling everyone that this guy has a K-Men as a pet and wants me to photograph it, no one believed me. So I went out and purchased a video camera, and I went to the photo shoot, and I filmed behind the scenes of this incredible photo shoot. Couldn't believe how close I can get to this little Kaman.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And it was so exciting, and I earned the trust from the owner. He asked me not to put his name out there or pictures of him. and don't let people know where his place was, for his came in. And he trusted me after that. So his friends also had exotic animals as pets. So then I started getting requests to photograph their animals. So I started flying all over North America,
Starting point is 00:04:50 photographing people with tigers and grizzly bears and greens and kangaroos and everything in between. wolves and bobcats and ostriches. Yeah, it was just so much fun. And I would film the behind-the-scenes. I made a web series called My Animal Adventures, which you can find on YouTube. That's it called Jason Kenzie's Animal Adventures.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And there's over 400 behind-the-scenes of my animal photoshoots. It's a lot of fun. And then in 29, the world shut down. and I wasn't able to do my animal adventures anymore and I was driving myself nuts I didn't know what I could do and I was pacing back and forth and one day my buddy Paul joked to me
Starting point is 00:05:38 and said heck maybe he should do something on Sasquatch maybe he's an animal and I was like hmm we laughed about it at first and I thought yeah it might be on to something maybe Sasquatch is an animal of some kind
Starting point is 00:05:53 I went and interviewed a person who had an encounter, Class A encounter with a Bigfoot walked up to him. And I found it fascinating. And so he sent me to someone else who had a Class A sighting where they were fishing and the Sasquatch stood over him and pointed as to show him something. And when he looked over and looked back, the creature had walked back into the forest. So then I started filming and interviewing and I thought, I'm going to do a documentary. So then I got introduced to the First Nations people, and they pointed me to an area in the forest, deep in the forest, where they think that the big forts live.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And so when I went into the forest and went deep into the forest, I found a mountain lake. And in this mountain lake, there were hundreds of... of these giant footprints that went right through it. And I filmed it. I had a drone, and I would drone it from the top, and you could clearly see all the footprints. And I went and took the footage to the First Nations people, and they told me that I found the migration path of the big foot,
Starting point is 00:07:11 of the Sasquatch people that migrated from Alaska all the way to California. I put it all together into a documentary, my very first one, and I put it out there on YouTube, and it just blew up. And then after that, I started getting film awards. So I won probably about 13 international film awards for number one and number two, number three, number four. I think number five, I had some awards too. And what was happening was Bigfoot investigators, they had these groups,
Starting point is 00:07:47 and they would contact me, They would fly me in with my gear, and they want me to film us looking for evidence, and we would go deep into the forest. Sometimes either by helicopter, by boat, by like, ATV, like any which way to get deep into the forest. And the one reason I love going deep into the forest, it's if something happens, if we hear something or we find something, or we find something, or we see something, we know it can't be human because we're so off the grid and off the beaten path, but the chances of someone just happened to be walking by would be next to swim to next. And yeah, it's been incredible. I've been to over 20 different states, over 30 different locations throughout North America.
Starting point is 00:08:46 and I've seen some crazy stuff in the forest. I've been roared at, screamed at, howled at, rocks thrown at me. I've found some of the strangest tree structures, these giant axes. I've had an incident of a spider crawl where this creature just went right across the trail in front of me. It was in the forest, just like that. It was so quick. And I remember the eye shine. The eyes just stared at me the whole time.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It was as if it was on a gimbal or a stabilization. There was no bobbing. It was straight and into the forest it went. Yeah, it's just been a really amazing ride. And I hope to continue. I'm up to 15 documentaries right now. You have a very intense backlog of documentaries and talking to your team, because it's not just you that goes out.
Starting point is 00:09:46 on these. You have a whole team with you as well, full of, they're just great people. And you have a few that you're currently working on getting ready for release, and that doesn't even include the Oak Ridge footage that was just shot, which is incredible. You are constantly working on this, for sure. Yes, I have five more documentaries. There's two paranormal documentaries that I'm working on two. But yeah, there's, so now I have about six searching for FastQuatch documentaries I'm working on. And soon there's going to be another two. I'm flying out to Michigan and into the Ozarks to go after the Ozark Howler, which is possibly another bigfoot creature. That will be extremely interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:37 There's a lot of different viewpoints for the Ozark Howler. What's the most remote you think that you've gone on these? documentary expeditions? So I don't know if anyone knows British Columbia, but we have some of the most dense forest, anywhere in the world. We have places where humans haven't placed their feet. And one time I took a helicopter and I got dropped off, way off by Pitt Lake, just on the backside of the mountains. And I was hundreds of miles in every direction of any civilization.
Starting point is 00:11:14 and I spent a couple nights in the wilderness. And I found trees that were pulled out of the ground and turned upside down. They walked over, walked the trees somewhere and just ram them back into the ground. I found about four or five of them. I found footprints. I've seen the eyeshine. That's probably the most remote that I've done. I've been, yeah, Oak Ridge, when we're out there,
Starting point is 00:11:44 by the meadow, that's pretty remote out there. And we actually turned on to a couple other roads off the main road. We turned off and went even deeper into the forest. But I really love going off the bean path for sure. I don't really like to stick on the path. Oh, absolutely. I'll share a little story about how wild you guys get. And then if you want me to take it out, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:13 but I remember the night we took you guys up as a film crew, one of the nights, and I was hanging out with Steve, and you guys said something to the effect of, we'll see you later. We're headed out, and we're like, okay. And then you guys just went for it. We were driving four service roads for what felt like 45 minutes trying to track you guys down, and you guys were up on top of the mountain. And I think it's just, it was, it's amazing that we saw all of a sudden your flashlight come off the top of a mountain. We're running down the side of the mountain in the dark around 12 o'clock. And I was like, these guys are wild. This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. They are in this 110%. I'm just glad we found you. Oh, I could not, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Now that you said that, back then, I was like, wow, what is the odds that we come down the mountain after about 45 minutes to an hour being out there and we just happened to come across you. I was like, we were very remote and to the point where we actually found, we found those weird sticks, the knots of the trees that were pulled out of the trees and laid in a row. And then again, I was filming it. I'm so glad that I had my video camera with me at all times. because some of the stuff people wouldn't believe, but there was the knots of a tree. Imagine pulling one of those out of the tree, like just the knot.
Starting point is 00:13:50 So it goes right down to a point. And we found them lying on a stump in a row, about five of them. So we didn't know Chad or Gwendolyn. They thought maybe it was left for us as a gift. So we took them, but in turn, I left them, we left them gifts. So I can't remember what Gwendo left, but I left them a Canadian dime. It's a Canadian 10 cent coin, which I hope I didn't insult them because it's pretty much worth nothing. That is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's a big picture of come by and go, look this. It's worth nothing. I'm going to kill that guy next to my series. That could be, that could push it over the edge for sure. That's really interesting. I think Chad may have showed me a picture of that. And it was the weirdest, one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. That whole area is weird.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But has there been a time when, and you can think of all your expeditions, which are a lot, has there been a time where just things have really escalated a lot? And you've been like, man, if I could get out of here, I probably would get out of here right now. It's just, it's very intense right now. I went to Texas. I think it's the river that separates. Louisiana and Texas, and we were right on the border of that. And it's one thing I don't usually tell people.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And the reason why I don't tell people is because, I know, I feel that people might think very negative of it, but here goes. And when you see the documentary, it's number five. Searching for Sasquatch number five, called, you know, the Texas screams. So I went into this area to go and interview a guy who said that he shot and potentially killed a big foot.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So I was excited to meet this guy and I wanted to interview him and I wanted to hear his story, even though some people said, why do you want to like put that kind of negativity into your docs? It's kind of important to get all the facts from all sides. We waited for him. In the middle of the night, he shows up. He pulls up, we're sleeping, and he pulls up in his truck. And the truck, the, how I say, either he had cut off the exhaust or he added a piece to his exhaust because it was loud.
Starting point is 00:16:31 the exhaust was so loud. It was like, like I couldn't even, I couldn't even explain exactly how loud it was. It was, you could hear him coming for miles. He had all the windows down. And he was blasting this music, which was like death music.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You know, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, he had it blasting so loud. Then again, you could still hear him coming for a mile away. Bigfoot Society will be a run. right back after these messages. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here,
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Starting point is 00:18:16 Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. He pulled up and he steps out of his vehicle and he's talking on his headset. And the music is just blurring. And then he, it wasn't even music. just noise. He turned it off. He went and I think he had a chainsaw and he was cutting down logs.
Starting point is 00:18:55 The entire forest around us erupted in screams and howls and roars all around us. It was nuts. It went on for an hour, these howls. And then there was coyotes that were howling at the same time. and I loved it. I loved it when coyotes are howling too at the same time as these unexplained howls because you can clearly tell the difference between the coyote howls and the unexplained creatures or whatever they are howling.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And then we're getting roars. And it went on for so long. And I was wondering that maybe it was because she maybe really did shoot and kill this Bigfoot creature. And that the creature, the Bigfoot, recognized him and were pissed off. And that's why they were going off.
Starting point is 00:19:57 They went off for so long that it got to the point that we were all sitting around talking and just talking about, I don't know, cooking a hot dog on the fire. So how's the hot dog? we're going to be eating a whole bunch of that, or another howl. So anyway, so about the hot dogs and stuff around the fuck,
Starting point is 00:20:19 but that's where it was. They were howling and screaming so much around us for so long that we got numb to it. We basically was like, oh, okay, another howl. But I didn't think for one second that I needed to get out. There was times. There was a time where something walked up to me in a hammock tent and five feet or eight feet from me, it flunted in my ear,
Starting point is 00:20:44 and I started shaking so badly that I was like, if this is a bear or a wall bore, I'm going to be injured here. And that's pretty much one of the only times where I really thought, okay, I'm in great danger at this moment. Wow, that is incredible. That area you're talking about in Texas, it is so intense.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I've gotten witness reports and interviewed people from that area you were referring to that are just absolutely insane. So I could definitely agree with you that, yeah, I'm sure that you, I don't think it's out of the question that you would experience something like that in that area is so full of Bigfoot. It's intense. You should see the documentary. It's pretty wild. We even got something that stood up in the forest. We went to a graveyard We went to a graveyard in the middle of the forest
Starting point is 00:21:38 It wasn't like there was like a major road That went to this graveyard We had to take ATVs to this graveyard In the middle of the forest And there was a gate Off to the side That led to a farmer's To a farm
Starting point is 00:21:55 Way down the way And we were there for 45 minutes And we're howling We're doing wood knocks And I walked over to the gate and there was a sign on it saying do not cross violators will be shot and then I looked at everyone and said I walked around it and just as I walked around it I heard walking in the forest and I'm like no that's no chipmunk and that's there's something heavy walking I turned to everyone
Starting point is 00:22:24 and said guys there's something walking everyone scattered they went beyond went on the other side of the the gate and they we stood up. So I ran into the forest with my video camera because I wanted to capture the audio, the sound of it walking. Well, everyone pulled out their flurs and they were looking. And at one point, you actually see something on the ground and it was hot and it stood up. It literally stood up and someone took a picture of it. And it was like either it was a Sasquatch creature or,
Starting point is 00:23:00 because it looked like whatever it was, didn't have any clothes on. So either it was a farmer, naked, walking it from the forest, or it was a big foot or something that didn't have clothes on. Because when I went and stood right next to the trees, you could clearly see my clothes, even on slur. I look white hot, but you could clearly see I was wearing clothes. But next to whether the creature, it was naked. Or you have that photograph, and it's actually pretty cool to see. Man, the good thing. The thing that I noticed about you is that the Jason that you get in the
Starting point is 00:23:38 documentaries is the actual Jason in real life, which is really cool. You are a 100% passionate individual, fun loving, like to have a good time, but you are very intensely focused on going after the Sasquot subject and documenting what you can. It is very cool to watch someone and everyone on your crew shares the same passion as well. So it is very cool to see. The other thing I want to mention real quick, before I forget, is you have a really cool graphic novel and I picked up one of those for my son. He has just read it cover to cover and I thought it was cool. You signed it. But the graphic novel, if you guys are into like Marvel graphic novels and stuff like that, you should definitely check out Jason's graphic novel.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It is very cool. Thank you. Yeah. I do try, like I am trying to find the evidence of these creatures. There's something out there when I first started five years ago, going on six years now. I was a 20% believer in Bigfoot. And after almost six years of searching and the crazy stuff that I've seen in the dark forest, I'm a 50% believer. And the reason why I'm 50% and not 100% is because I haven't had a daytime sighting yet. I'm hoping to get that soon. I just need that daytime siding for myself to truly believe that these creatures are 100% real. Because so far I've seen the eye shine and I've seen the shadow of them. Like they move so fast. And for some reason, they know how to stand just outside of the infrared beam of light that comes
Starting point is 00:25:28 from your video camera. We'll say this as a teaser to another Oakridge episode that I'm putting together, but if you had been in Oak Ridge a few days earlier, you would have had that daytime citing, correct? I probably would have. Yep. I probably would have. So close.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So close. I know Chad at least had multiple daytime sightings, and I'll be talking to him about that. That was before I got there as well. well. And in fact, I want to say it was even the same day I got there. They were out earlier in the day, but that'll be discussed more in depth in another episode about Oak Ridge. But have you ever been to the southeast Oklahoma area yet, Jason? I haven't. Not yet. Hopefully. I would love to see what you come up with if you can ever make it down there. I think, I used to think that was the number one best area. And it probably is really high up there. But after being in Oak Ridge, I was, man,
Starting point is 00:26:34 that area is pretty intense where we were at as well. You mentioned a spider crawling Sasquatch incident. Can you share more about that? That sounds like a very interesting. Yeah, so it was in the UP of Michigan. We had taken trucks and off-road very deep into the UP. It took a it's almost an hour just to get to base camp one and that's why we parked all the vehicles and we made a camp with all the tents right there by the campfire
Starting point is 00:27:10 and we had set up all the of the equipment so I'm sitting around a campfire and we had just been hanging out that day and it was nighttime now it was probably about 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And one of the Bigfoot researchers comes into camp and says, hey, points to one of the other guys and says, hey, let's go back and get the audio recorder that we put out earlier in the day. And the other Bigfoot researcher was like, no way, I'm not going out there. No, I'm just, I'm scared. I don't want to go up there. So the other researcher was like, I could see him go. And then I stood up and said, I'll go. So I grabbed my video camera. and off we went.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And we were probably about, probably half an hour walk into the forest, going deeper into the forest. And I was photographing and filming all the tree breaks, saw all the branches that were broken and twisted. A lot of these researchers believe that these creatures, they do these tree breaks, but they twist it at the same time,
Starting point is 00:28:25 which is really hard to do. even a small branch trying to break it and twist it is almost impossible and I was fascinated so I'm filming must have filmed about 10 of them so far and we're walking
Starting point is 00:28:41 and you come to this area where all the trees had been pushed over across the path and there was probably about six trees in a row they were all pushed over but the roots weren't showing
Starting point is 00:28:56 and these were big trees. They were probably about maybe eight to 12 inches in diameter. So they were still bigger than a dinner plate, these trees. But they were pushed over almost like bent
Starting point is 00:29:13 over the trail where we had the basically and all the trees were straight before it and after it. Like it was pretty thick on the other side except for this big patch as if something had come
Starting point is 00:29:26 laid them all down. And we had to crawl through and over and under these trees to get through. And then we carried on, and I'm still filming all these tree breaks, and we get to the end. And we know no one's been down there for a very long time, at least a couple of years, because the grass that we were walking through at one point was probably about two feet, two feet tall. and it was very eerie. It was dark, it was quiet. We get to the far end, and we gathered.
Starting point is 00:30:00 We got the recorder, and we started heading back. As we're heading back, we took a wrong turn, and we went for maybe a thousand feet a long way, and then we were seeing Cooger tracks, and I don't think it was Bear tracks. We saw Cooger tracks, I think we saw Wolf tracks, and then we walked back, and we found the spot where we missed the turn
Starting point is 00:30:26 and we started walking more and as we're walking we see this tree branch that's over top of the trail like it's just, it's hanging and it's a tree break literally two of them over top of the trail
Starting point is 00:30:42 hanging there to the point where as we're walking up I turned to the research and I said hey I don't remember that being there because I was filming all the tea breaks because I was fascinated. And to the point where when we walked up to it,
Starting point is 00:30:58 I had to like turn my head and walk around it, like move around it, like walk to the side because it was in the middle. And you could see it was just broken because the sap was still dripping. Like it was still wet. And all of a sudden as we're looking at it, we hear a cock from behind us.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And we turned around and Blake had taken his gun. He had a gun with him. He held his gun and he was looking down at the far end of this trail and there was nothing there. And then he put his gun back down. And then all of a sudden I saw some eyes shine right there. And I'm like, oh my gosh, can't I see it? And I'm trying to get my camera to focus on it. And you could clearly see it was looking at us. It was tall. I would say probably at least eight feet, nine feet tall. And then all of a sudden, it closed its eyes. And after about a minute, it came back out.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Like the eyes shine came out really slowly. And there was again, then a smaller creature had walked out. And it opened its eyes and looked at it, and it was much smaller. It was probably about seven feet. at least a couple feet smaller than the other one. And it's just standing there looking at us. And it was just out of the reach of my infrared light on my camera. And as we're watching it, we, Blake goes, you could hear cracking.
Starting point is 00:32:40 He's listened. And you hear cracking all around us. And he's, I think there's more of them and they're circling us. And I'm standing there. I'm freaking out inside. But I have a rule. I have two rules when I go out into the forest. If I go out with people.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Number one rule is don't run. That's my rule. Do not run. If something happens, just stand your ground. Because we're in the middle of the forest. These creatures are going to kill you. They're just going to kill you. There's nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So by running, if it was a cougar or a bear, they would chase after you because predator and prey. And also, the Sasquots people would probably start laughing going scared a cat. Who knows? I just don't run. And the second rule I have, but actually the first rule is no hoaxing. That's basically my number one rule if I go out with people. Don't hoax.
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Starting point is 00:35:19 And then number two is don't run. So we're standing there. I'm looking at it. We're looking at these two eyes shine, whatever they are. And then all of a sudden they close their eyes. And I don't know whether they close their eyes, They just turned their heads and they walked into the forest.
Starting point is 00:35:37 We walked up there really fast to that area, like a minute after the eye shines disappeared. And sure enough, beside where they were standing was a big open spot in the trees. The trees on either side of us were sick, except for that one spot where it was an opening, where something had just walked right through. So we walked back to the spot with the, we wanted to influence. investigate a little bit more of the tree break.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So as we're looking, I did this maneuver where I pretended to walk one way and I turned really fast and there standing in front of me. So Blake was looking the other direction because he was still looking down the way to see if you could see any more of the eyeshine. And I was standing beside him looking towards where. where he was looking and then I pretended to take a step forward, when really I took a step forward and turned really fast and there something that was probably seven or eight feet tall dropped to the ground in front of me about 20 feet, 25 feet and it went right over the trail.
Starting point is 00:36:51 It looked like a giant spider, like massive with the eyeshine that just, and I'm looking at it. The thing is my camera, my video camera was facing my, facing me because I was talking on camera explaining what was happening. So when I turned, my eyes, because of the light of my screen, my eyes were still adjusting back and forth. And I was looking at it as it went across. And I think it was a second one, too, that was behind, and it stepped behind the tree. But I was so focused on the one on the ground that I'm looking at it going into the
Starting point is 00:37:30 cougar. Because I know cougars, they do hunched down. when they're about to attack, right? You know how cats will go right down? So I'm looking at it going, oh, my gosh, and went right across it, it was gone. So now I'm thinking to myself, did I just, what was that? Was it just my imagination of the shadows of the darkness
Starting point is 00:37:51 playing tricks on me because I was really hyper and very emotional and basically scared? That's what I was. I was just terrified. And then what I didn't see in real time, I saw when I was editing the footage two months later where I saw the eye shine behind my head because I walked to the spot where I saw whatever it was when it crossed the trail. What I didn't, I was talking on camera talking about, and I saw the eye shine behind my head
Starting point is 00:38:26 probably within five feet behind me. All I would have done is just turned and looked and I probably would have seen it. at the moment I didn't see it but when you if you watch the documentary I think it's a number that is on number three number two and three is part one and two
Starting point is 00:38:44 but number three is the very is the ending with the spider crawl and you actually see the eye shine behind my head so yeah that is my whatever my spider crawling story is wild I have not had a visual of any kind yet it almost feels like
Starting point is 00:39:02 I'm being built up slowly to it. I think that if you were to go zero to 60 with, you know, seeing something like that, oh, man, I'm not quite sure what it would do to you, but I experienced some roars and screams in Oak Ridge and who knows what will happen next for sure. Have you gone up to, there's a property in northern Minnesota with a gentleman named Randy. Were you involved with going up there? So I did a documentary on Randy's place. It's called the Minnesota Roars. How was...
Starting point is 00:39:40 So that is number two. How was that? Yeah, it was quite interesting. So he would take us to all the tree structures that he's found on his property. All these tree structures. And, yeah, they were very fascinating. There was one point where we went to a pole that held all this big foot hair that Randy said that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And he said he's seen these big creatures walking across that. It was along a, what do you call it, those power lines going up the mountain. Oh, clear cuts. Yeah, clear cuts. So it was a clear cut. His place is directly next to a clear cut. And he said he's seen a couple times the Sasquot. And so in front of me right now I'm holding some of that hair that I pulled off of the
Starting point is 00:40:34 of the pole. And there was quite a bit of it. Now I'm not saying it was big foot hair because I haven't got tested. It's all we know it was bare. It is quite fascinating. It was interesting. I had mixed feelings with Drandi's property.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I wasn't sure if somebody was going there and hoaxing him and building these tree structures behind his back. But I do know that there has been a couple tree structures that he had no idea about the spider. Like I saw, I found a tree structure that looks like a spider web. So it was at nighttime and we stumbled on it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And it was huge. It was big. All the trees were woven on it. And it looked like a giant spider web. And he didn't know about it because when I got back to Canada, he called me asking, hey, where did you find that tree structure that looked like a spider web? And I explained it to him. and so he went out looking for it
Starting point is 00:41:37 and then he called me from the forest again saying, hey, I can't find it. Exactly where did you find it? And then I explained it to him and then the next message I got from him was when he got there, the tree sector was knocked down.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It was on the ground. Yeah, it's interesting. If you ever get a chance to go out there and explore his land, you should. I've interviewed Randy. I believe he even gave me an invite to go up there. And the interesting thing is I also had other people reach out after I interviewed him saying, yes, we know where this property is. We live near it too. And we have stuff happen on our property as well, which I thought was very interesting. It didn't lead to any interviews, but it's always interesting to hear multiple people in the same area. Another thing that happened when we were near the meadow, I remember shiard. Harry had been walking to our area, and she had said that something had actually called her name from the woods, which I wasn't really sure how to deal with that. It was very strange. Have other things like that happened? So I have, I've caught whistles. I've caught like kids playing in the forest. We're talking one o'clock in the morning and deep in the forest, catching what sounded like.
Starting point is 00:43:05 children playing, only briefly. I've caught singing, like melody, like a melody of some kind of enchanted singing. I haven't really had anyone call my name. The only time I've ever had things call my name is when I've been doing a paranormal, when I'm investigating haunted locations, like churches or houses, or that's the only time I've ever caught things calling my name. But out in the forest, I haven't had that yet. But I have interviewed quite a few people who have had their names called in the forest. It's very weird stuff. Also, you just mentioned hearing singing, which I think is a fascinating thing.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I've heard that reported in the Pacific Northwest in southeast Oklahoma. Can you share the area that you had heard the singing out in the woods? So I was in Michigan in the very same area where the creature was looking at me to the forest, bouncing back and forth, bawding his head back and forth, was in that same area.
Starting point is 00:44:15 But I'll tell you one story here in the Pacific Northwest out by where I live. I interviewed a lady who said that she grew up back in, I think it was like the 1950s where there was no the road that she lived on wasn't paid. There was no, it was on the First Nations land, and she lived in a smaller cabin on the edge of a mountain by Harrison.
Starting point is 00:44:43 It was close to Harrison Lake. But back then, there was no houses, very little houses, very little population. But every evening she would hear what sounded like a crying baby coming out of the forest. And she would sit there on her port. and she had three kids, three little babies that she was looking after. And she would sit there on her porch in her chair listening to this crying baby. And the First Nations people would tell her that is where the Sathclots would give birth out there in the forest. I asked her to take me to the area during the day.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And she did. She took me to the area where she actually physically saw one run across a, a road. I went and picked up one of my buddies and we took a giant Bluetooth speaker and we went to the area where she said that she would hear these crying babies and we hiked in for probably about 45 minutes and then in the middle of the night we sat down and I had downloaded a crying baby sound and I put it in the Bluetooth speaker and I played it into the darkness
Starting point is 00:46:02 of the forest. Played it for probably two minutes and I stopped it and I'm telling you, Jaramara, as I'm sitting here talking to you right now, out of the darkness came a blood
Starting point is 00:46:18 curdling scream as if the thing was trying to mimic a crime baby that I had just done. I was filming it and I caught that on film. The only disappointing thing is I was standing up. And because my camera was rested facing me, I didn't realize the camera didn't face,
Starting point is 00:46:41 it cut my head off and didn't actually capture my astoundment when I was like, what the? And I sat down, but Paul was sitting there. And we're like, what the, and it just, and it was close. was so close to us, I would say maybe 200 yards in the forest. So I decided to go walking towards the area to see if I can get a closer look. And I could hear running through the forest, running away, whatever it was. But I was like, I could not believe it, that that happened right after I played this crying baby.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And I was so happy that I was filming it. I've heard that. I've heard people use that baby cry. I've never had the guts to do it myself just because I'm afraid of what might come back towards me and that you prove that stuff can respond out of the dark. You also mentioned an interesting thing, which I also experienced multiple times, which you hear researchers say that you're only going to hear stuff if your recorders are off. I experienced that multiple times.
Starting point is 00:47:50 were you able to actually capture any audio or anything interesting up in Oregon? I wasn't able to because my recording stuff had issues or was turned off when I heard stuff. Yeah, no, I wasn't able to capture any audio. None of the, we heard a couple howls off in the distance, like that roar. but yeah it's so weird how it's as if the things in the forest waiting it's off
Starting point is 00:48:24 okay let's do it guys oh we're about to turn on everyone shut up no absolutely and I used to think when people would say that I would be like okay yeah but I experienced it once my stuff was turned off and put in the car there's something to it I think
Starting point is 00:48:41 it's just it is so incredibly weird I do want to ask you one more question, Jason. It's a basic one, but it's a fun one. You're into this five or six years. Do you have any thoughts as to what this is that we're dealing with what these Sasquatch actually are? It's interesting. I do think they're some kind of an animal of some kind.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I think they are highly intelligent. I can't tell you if they're alien. or if they're from a different planet. This thing about cloaking, there's a big possibility that they have some incredible camouflage skills, only because when I think about that stuff, I always think about the real animals in real life that do have abilities of cloaking, or at least camouflaging themselves, like the octopus. The octopus and the cul-fers, they have incredible abilities of camouflage to the point where they could almost cloak. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 00:51:12 Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music, or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. can't Bigfoot have some similar kind of abilities of being able to counterflage themselves. The thing about them going through portals or at least being invisible, the only one thing that goes to my head is, if you think about it, allegedly these animals don't want us to see them. That's why they run past us, if they run away when they think that they're being seen, if they could be invisible
Starting point is 00:51:59 or if they could just transport themselves through a portal, why would they ever come out of being invisible? Why would they ever come out of a portal? If they don't want to be seen, when they get seen, there's a chance they could be shot and killed.
Starting point is 00:52:16 So it could be dangerous. So if they have the ability of being invisible, why would they ever come out of being invisible? People say maybe it hurts them when they're invisible. I'm like, I don't know about that. Why would some nature, why would they make something like that where you're in pain when you're invisible? I think they're flesh and blood and probably a matter of time before we finally get an amazing shot of one.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Not to shoot one, just a nice picture of one. Yeah, exactly. Documentation. Yeah, that's a great clarification to make. my viewpoint is actually very similar, so it's good to hear that as well, even though every viewpoint is fine on this podcast. I talk to all sorts of people, but I do also think it's probably some kind of physical animal that can do things that science just can't explain yet. Jason, it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you this afternoon. Do you mind taking a few minutes,
Starting point is 00:53:18 reminding people how they can keep up to date with what you're doing, watch your documentaries, and maybe even what you've got coming up next with all that. Yeah, if anybody is interested in finding my stuff, you can find my documentary, Rita Watts on 2BTV, Roku, Plex. You go on Plex, you can find it there. You can find it on Prime Video. You can find it on YouTube also.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You know, you can find my comic book or my graphic novel. You can find that on Amazon. on. In fact, if you just Google my name, Jason Kenzie, Animals, or Jason Kenzie, Sasquatch, or Bigfoot, you will find all the news reports that I've been written about me, all my documentation. I do have a website called Searching for Sasquatch.ca. Yeah, you can find me in Instagram called Searching Sasquatch, TikTok, searching for Sasquatch on TikTok. But yeah, I just, I just I want to know if you want to lose yourself in my Bigfoot adventures. They're fun.
Starting point is 00:54:32 They're adventurous. They're good for the whole family. And seeing you will see Jeremiah in one of them. It looks great on film. So get out there and have fun. That's true. You will see me in one of them, won't you? It was fun being involved with that.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But Jason, it's been a privilege chatting with you and hopefully our pads cross again someday in the future. And thank you for coming on, man. Thank you, Jim. Chad, whenever you're ready. My interest in Bigfoot came in the 90s when I really got interested in Bigfoot. My first knowledge of Bigfoot, believe it or not, came from a TV show called the $6 million man. and also in search of with Leonard Nimoy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Okay, so now I'm giving away my age. And the Patterson Gimlin footage, that short clip. That as a young child was my introduction to what Bigfoot was. And I always was told that it's not real. What you're seeing is all made up, what people are saying is all made up. And as a young child, influential, it's easy to believe. But I always still remembered the things that I watched. And then in the 90s, with the Internet and things becoming more available,
Starting point is 00:56:04 and me seeing something Bigfoot, and I go look at it. I don't even remember what the first thing was on the Internet that I saw. And then I realized that it led to more things, more stories. I spent years just reading and watching any video I could following researchers, years. I'm outlooking for Bigfoot, listening to what everybody else had to say, all opinions, because everybody has a different opinion, but listening to every opinion. And then all of a sudden finding Bigfoot comes out, I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. This is the greatest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I love the show. I mean, no, I'm not a fan of the show. I understand how network runs it now and all that. But it brought attention to the topic. And then it brought more people coming out. See, Finding Bigfoot did a great thing. It did a great thing with their database, Matt Moneymaker. He did a great thing at making sure that happened.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And then he did a great thing at bringing the... bringing the attention to the topic and then people that have held in their experiences for years and years coming out in the open and telling people. So this was huge. Now the Internet's even getting better. And now I'm finding researchers out there. I find a guy named Mark Zaski, who is my mentor. And I studied everything he did.
Starting point is 00:57:44 everything I followed him and everything he put out I followed him for years I became good really good friends with him one day he says to me because now I'm an armchair researcher for five plus years says you know what chat you just need to get out and find out for yourself and I'm like I have no clue what what I'm doing out there even though I'm an outdoorsman and a hunter I'm not a big foot professional I've just been watching all these videos, even though I didn't realize I really had all the knowledge I needed to make my own decision as far as cognitive decision as far as what was happening. And I'll admit, it's easy to think, if you're looking for Bigfoot and something happens, it's easy to think Bigfoot, but that's the last thing you want to do because most of the time it's not.
Starting point is 00:58:35 But Mark convinced me to get out in the woods. And the minute I got out and I started researching, I was amazed. I took all the knowledge of tree structures. I started finding tree structures. And a lot of stuff falls in the wood. But I'm finding stuff so intricate that it has to be built. It would require hands to put the stuff together. And then so now I'm finding these areas.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And then now I'm like hanging out. I'm not just tromping through the woods. I'm going and sitting and listening and camping in areas where I find. this kind of stuff. And I was amazed that the activity that would happen at night when you're in your tent or when you're
Starting point is 00:59:24 sitting around the campfire and you can't see anything because all you have is a campfire light and everything outside the campfire is just jet black and the noises you'd hear and the things you'd find the next morning. I'd find a camp spot that I'd search
Starting point is 00:59:41 the whole area. I'd look for signatures and sign structures, glist, and all that. And I know I search the area and wake up the next morning and get up. And all of a sudden there's this glyph in a tree that I know for a fact wasn't there. Now this
Starting point is 00:59:57 is telling me there's something going on. There's something real. Then I find this area that I didn't believe they were in, but they were. And I knew from what I had learned. And I started habituating them. I spent
Starting point is 01:00:11 a couple years every day, or every other day leaving them apples, habituating them. Done. I had my first daylight sighting out there. Like I go out after work. It's about dusk. I hang these apples.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I can hear stuff moving towards them. It's like you got to the point they were so comfortable. And I just go do it and leave. And I'm walking out. And all of a sudden I just had this feeling I'm being watched. And I turn. and in an arch of a tree, it wasn't a really big tree, but it was a wide off tree, and there was a wide.
Starting point is 01:00:50 In the arch of it, I look, and there is a shape of a head. It's a dark head, and then there's an outline of like shoulders outside of this tree. Staring at me, and I'm looking at it. I don't think it. No way. No way am I seeing this. And the minute I think that, it steps out to the side, and it's standing there right in front of me, just looking at me.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And it's not a huge one. Maybe six, I believe it was a juvenile. And it just stands there and it just looks at me. And then I just get this feeling. And I get this like pulsating going through my body, it tingling. And I get this like this dread going through me. And, you know, I stared at the thing for five, six seconds, the longest I've ever stared at one in the daylight. But I just, this feeling that came over me and through my body, it's like, it made me retreat.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And I retreated. I mean, I have a lot of stories and I can't get into all of them. But really, I got my start because of the Internet. Because I always had the interest and I was able to look up all these reports and stories and people's beliefs. and to be able to study the greats out there. There are great people out there. There are. I'm not going to name names,
Starting point is 01:02:20 but anybody that's into Bigfoot research knows. There's people that are long gone that put in so much time and effort into this that I get to study what their findings are. And there's people current out there today that really actually put in the work, not network type people, even though I have nothing against them, the network personalities. They're doing their job. They're bringing attention.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So what they do is important. But those aren't the personalities that I follow when I want advice about Bigfoot. And I don't know. I don't know where else will go from there, Jeremiah. That's such an incredible story. You know, you're the first person that's brought up $6 million man, which kudos to you because comments is going to love that they're always there i was talking about that but just the fact that you put in the work about five years doing the research before you
Starting point is 01:03:25 actually were like all right i will go out and see what happens and i don't think enough people get do enough time getting the foundation down so kudos to you how did you get involved with this with the Jason McKenzie, this Jason Kenzie guy, this crazy dude, who I love. I say that because I got to hang out with him. And dude, the dude is amazing. You guys are the most fun team ever. He's definitely crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I think that's the only reason that I can hang out with him because I finally found somebody crazier than me. But it's not even really that difficult of a story. I helped start the Michigan Bigfoot Conference in ANR. It was the first one ever. I was a big part of it. I was a big part of getting the speakers, setting it up, organizing everything. There was a lot of other people involved.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Shout out Dave Dominique. Shut out Ernest Bargo. Shout out Sherry Barcia. Shout out John Thaler. I can't even name Josh Parsons. There's so many people that were involved to help make this successful event happen. And Ernie said, have you ever seen this guy? He's got a dockey. I think he had one or two documentary. He's so funny. I watched his first one. I said,
Starting point is 01:04:45 this guy ain't funny. This guy's an idiot. And he says, watch the next one. I watched the next one. I said, he's getting a little better. And then he says, I think we should invite him to the conference. We had a minimum budget. And at the time, Jason was young, knew it up and coming. I talked to him. And he accepted it. But the deal was, is he wanted to hang out after. he wanted to go do a documentary after. So that was the main deal to get him there, pay his way there, room, and I do a documentary. And so we get him there, and I'm like, okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:05:24 His personality on film is him, but it's not, you don't get to see spending 24 hours straight with him. And he's such a pleasure to be around most of the time. Don't get me wrong there, Jeremiah. Most of the time, he's such a pleasure to be around. I contacted him again. I said, you know what, Jason? I'll fund this.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'll fly you in. Let's do a documentary in Michigan again. And ever since that, it took up. Now, that was a bad thing, though, because I flew him in for three weeks. I'm going to tell a story. It's not really Bigfoot related, but it's Bigfoot event-related. I'm flying him in for three weeks.
Starting point is 01:06:07 the night before I'm supposed to pick him up from the airport early in the morning. I mowing my lawn and it starts downpouring. I run in the house. It quits rain. I run out to get the rest of the lawn done. I hit the bottom step and my feet slip out. Wood deck steps. Slipp out.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I fall. I break five ribs. I almost die. I spend two weeks in the hospital. Literally. I get surgery. Get plates put in my ribs finally. And then I'm out within a couple days after that.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I have one day to spend with Jason. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here, and one here, and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like starting, starting over, you need the Intuit ERP.
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Starting point is 01:07:41 There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy. it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. Out there every day with him, hiking through the woods, hiking, I'm falling down a cliff. just out of the hospital.
Starting point is 01:08:26 So that is our first actual, really me and him, aside from the conference thing. After that, it just took up. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Pennsylvania. No, Ohio. Michigan three times. Ohio. Florida. It wasn't Indiana, but I made Indiana happen.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Then Kentucky. Then Pennsylvania. Oregon. And this is all within the last. less than a year and a half, like these six that I mentioned. So, yeah, I'm just going to keep doing it. We're all a team. We all chip in.
Starting point is 01:09:03 We all do our share. We all take this really seriously, Jeremiah. You see it. You've been out with us. We have fun, too. I want to comment. So I've seen not all the documentaries, but I've seen some of them. And my first thing was like, wow, this guy is goofy, but he's having fun.
Starting point is 01:09:21 but then after i got to spend time with them i was like wow these guys are having fun but they are taking it way more serious than i'll say they're at the top of taking this like they are seriously trying to get evidence and document and they're just having a really good time when they do it and it's just it's such a unique combination i haven't really seen it anywhere else to be honest so it's great I'm not in it if there's not seriousness. And that's just me and Sherry too. And as you speak of Jason, that's just his character, man. He's just a clown.
Starting point is 01:10:03 But sometimes when we're out in the woods, it's a totally different Jason. We really research. We really solo camp. We really go alone out in the woods. Everything isn't on film. It can't all go on film. Most of the times you're out there all. long nothing happens nothing worthy but it's times that something happens which they happen
Starting point is 01:10:28 you spend enough time and you do the research right you will have something happen has there been a time when you're out there filming a documentary where it's just gotten really weird or things have really escalated and you're like wow i'm not sure if this was A good life decision to be in this right here where stuff is just out of my control. It hasn't yet, not during a documentary. Wow. Okay. Cool.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Cool. I mean, that's good. Just watch the Michigan one when we had Robin Haynes McCray there. And she's telling us the big one right here, they're mine speaking to me. His name's, what do you say? Harambe, they have a family. They're worried about you. You're scaring them.
Starting point is 01:11:20 They're right there. And then all of a sudden, eyes everywhere crashing through the woods. It's all, it's in a documentary. What one is that? Six or seven, I think, seven? Five. Or five? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:33 It's a Michigan one. It's all. Everything that happened is there. Jason, Tommy, Chad, there's something in front of me. And you see his eyes up and you watch it drop to the ground. Chad, it just dropped to the, I'm standing right there looking at it. I'm not saying nothing. and I'm just locked down the eyes.
Starting point is 01:11:51 All that really happened. And then the crashing through the woods. Yeah. And then we also have other fun things. We go tramping through a freaking roost of turkeys up in the trees that scares. We get on film. But yeah, the first thing you think, we're about being attacked. Have you ever walked under 25 turkeys up in trees?
Starting point is 01:12:15 Not totally. And all of a sudden they all take. Okay. No, we've got this on video. It scared us, dude. I am not kidding. You know, I think it's coming out in one of the documentaries. You will hear it in our voices.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I've never had that happen to me before either. But, yeah, we're out there looking for Bigfoot. All of a sudden it's just a forest, just erupts. Yeah. Oh, man, I'm looking forward to that. Definitely. What do you hope is accomplished through all these documentaries that the team is putting out?
Starting point is 01:12:48 My main goal is to one day get paid, but that's not what I'm looking at. My main goal, actually, is to get the word out there, to get other people interested, to get other people researching. Truthfully, my goal is to be a part of getting validation of the species that I know exists. That is my true goal, okay? Am I ever going to make money at this? No, but maybe I'll break even one day. But that's not what this is about. I've been doing this so long that it's not what it's about.
Starting point is 01:13:33 What it's about is the next generation getting the young interested. Because we're a dying breed, Jeremiah. We are a dying breed. We are falling out. All the OGs are dying. They're either dead or they're dying. off. And now it's us. And it's our responsibility of the people between 30 and 55 to get the generation below us interested in looking into it. And seeing for themselves is real so that they
Starting point is 01:14:09 stay dedicated and continue. It's going to be hard to prove it's real. We know it's real. We have a battle ahead of us for that. Media. And I don't even want to get into the details. Most people that are into Bigfoot understand who's stopping us from this being the truth and being out there and being validated.
Starting point is 01:14:36 It's not the trolls. It's not the trolls on Facebook that aren't helping this be validated. It's higher sources above us. So I'll leave out of that. Oh, yeah. And I'll just throw a little bit in there, too. I agree with the chat 100%. There are times when I've been doing certain interviews and certain things are mentioned,
Starting point is 01:14:58 things just go, it just totally shuts down. You know, it's just like, dude, I don't know. You've heard things I've heard. I have a personal experience with Department of Interior. Am I allowed to say that? Yes. So you're saying you have. an interesting story with the Department of the Interior?
Starting point is 01:15:24 Absolutely. Okay. Go right ahead, my friend. I was in Florida. I moved down there a couple years, for a couple years. I started a business. The business didn't work out. So I took a job with my brother.
Starting point is 01:15:40 We installed gates and security systems and things like that. And one of our clients that we did their gate for was that. the panther preserve in the Everglades, 15 miles from David Shealy's Skunk ape headquarters. We happened to be down there. Doing a job over by date, we had to do two of them right in that area. And my brother, my first time at the
Starting point is 01:16:10 Skunkape Research headquarters, so my brother would drive right by it. Have to, so he stops there for me. I buy a hat. I walk through it. I buy a hat. Then we go to the Panther Preserve. We get there. I meet this old guy, Department of Interior, federal government, and I'm a Bigfoot researcher.
Starting point is 01:16:38 And my brother introduces me to him, and we're just chit-chat. And I bring up, hey, does anybody ever came to you and reported a Bigfoot? And he laughed. And he said, no. And then I give him this look. As I'm wearing the skunk ape research headquarters hat, I give him this look, and then he looks at me. He says, oh, unless you're talking about the Shealy brothers.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And I'm like, okay. And so then I let it go at that. And then I said, you have to have trail cameras all over out here, don't you? He says, oh, yeah. I'm like, what's the weirdest thing you've ever got? So I'm like, fishing, why I'm working? We're repairing his gates. He says, tell you the truth, Chad.
Starting point is 01:17:24 an Arctic fox. I'm like, what? He said, yeah. Don't know how I got here, but we've got an Arctic fox that we've got on trail camera, which why would it be in the Florida Everglade? We're working and stuff,
Starting point is 01:17:37 we're just chit-chatting, and I'm not pushing the Bigfoot thing. And my brother sends me to the van. I forget what he sent me to go get something, a tool or something we needed. And this is one of my brother told me,
Starting point is 01:17:54 He said, when I sent you there, I looked at it and I said, my brother's really into this and really believes in this. We all just laugh at him. He said, folding his arms and stared at him and didn't say a word. He said it was the weirdest thing, Chad. But I get this all after what I'm about to tell you happen. So he finished the job up and everything. Federal government, he can't tell me nothing. He can't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:18:19 I'm getting the van. He says, hey, chat. I turn around and I said, hey, yeah. he looks at me with his arms folded and he shakes his head yes like majorly shakes his head yes turns around and walks away whoa he's not allowed to tell me he can do that my brother made fun of me he looked at he knows i know but a lot of people know most people just believe what they're told by media let's be honest why would the government want us to know they're real why would that What how does that benefit the government?
Starting point is 01:18:59 It doesn't, it hurts it. It, financially it hurts. It hurts so much. Just with the parks and recreation. Oh, missing 401. Okay, yeah, all these people that were missing here. Yeah, we think most of it's Bigfoot related. Oh, yeah, bring your kids, your children here.
Starting point is 01:19:22 A billion dollar industry. What's it due to the Catholic Church? They already took the book of Enoch out of the book. Bible, which has, I believe, a lot of what Bigfoot is in it. I can't say it does because it no longer exists, but I believe it is absolutely wild stuff. I just recently have been having, they say their National Park Rangers reach out to me from different areas and the interviews never get set up for some reason. They never follow through and I don't know if there's some that I don't know but it is getting to the point where I think people are trying to
Starting point is 01:20:04 reach out from behind that curtain of government protection because I think there are definitely park rangers that know something and they're at the point where these forestry workers these park rangers are like we have to get the word out and I don't know it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next 10, 15 years. Yeah, and when they come out on their deathbed, because there's so many that they say, oh, they're old and senile. It's wild. It's absolutely wild.
Starting point is 01:20:40 And what you guys are doing with searching for Sasquatch is just, it is the coolest thing. It's a documentary series that sneaks, it's sneaky because it looks like it's just goofy, but then it's incredibly serious. And I totally recommend everyone check it out. It's on Tubey YouTube. I think it's on Amazon Prime too, right? Yep, yep, it is. And we all love each other.
Starting point is 01:21:07 That's a weird thing. You do. The whole team, we love each other. Like, we share tents together. We pick kicks off of each other. If my back is, anybody but Sherry will scratch it. It's weird. like spending hours with you guys in the woods like I totally get it.
Starting point is 01:21:30 A lot of listeners will be like, it sounds kind of weird. It's like guys, it's just, you'll get it. It is very unique. It's totally unique, but it is an absolute legitimate thing. Spend a week and a tent together and drive into a shower or, and they haven't even experienced it yet. In my early days, I've bathed in a creek. and Sherry hasn't experienced that yet, but that's coming up. Oh, Bade in the Creek?
Starting point is 01:21:59 Oh, she has. Oh, that's right. You did bathe in the creek. Yeah, literally. People, they see, okay, Ohio, we'll just say they see this documentary. And it's an hour and a half long. They don't realize we spent seven days in the woods together. And they just see the hour and a half.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Absolutely. Oh, man. It's, yeah, there's. more the behind the scenes would be too much to handle but it is amazing and i loved every minute that i got to spend with you guys chat thank you for for spending some time hanging out talking to me tonight do you mind reminding listeners how they can keep up to date with what you guys are doing with the searching for saskatch and all that good stuff we actually have a whole lot planned ahead there's we're we're not behind in documentaries because we've got one
Starting point is 01:22:55 editor and one main guy Jason and it takes time to get through these documentaries. I think we're like actually three that still haven't even began editing and we're about to do we're about to do four here in a month and a half that we're going to film in a month. And so there's going to be a lot of documentaries coming out. It really does take a lot of time. Yeah, I've been thinking about maybe we go live more just to do a little fun one-hour shows while we're out in the woods. If we're somewhere, we can have signal.
Starting point is 01:23:33 If I pick my phone up right now, Jeremiah, and I walk 15 feet away, it's going to hang up. I'm sitting in a perfect spot. I can't touch my phone. But I'd like to do some live stuff here in the next year so that we have more content out there. available. Because we're typically four months then the next documentary
Starting point is 01:24:01 is out. And then once that's out, then Jason has to edit for four months and then we have to do all the research that we do. And that takes four months between the research we do and the other documentaries we film to get that next one done.
Starting point is 01:24:18 But then the one that we just filmed, that's a year up the road before it comes out. I don't the Oregon one, I don't know, man. It's probably, it's going to be months before that one comes out. But it's going to be
Starting point is 01:24:33 well worth it when I do it. Does she have any that we could contact for you an interview with? What are you talking? Why would you know? What? Do you realize he's going to have to edit this all out?
Starting point is 01:24:45 I'll be in a minute. You probably were finished. She's the best. She's so good. But, Yeah, okay. Okay, you want to redo anything or with that or no? That's great. That is great. Thank you so much. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.
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Starting point is 01:26:06 I'll see you there. And again, thanks for listening. You're her and I can get on here. We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it.
Starting point is 01:27:10 feel so bad about it. Who cares with anybody's things? I know what I saw. I know what's off there? That's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know if you ever see one of these things. You need to tell. Because if you don't,
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