Bigfoot Society - She Screamed, ‘It’s Evil’ — And Then the Forest Changed | Colorado

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

What happens when two outdoorsmen follow a tip from a mysterious woman at a Bigfoot museum — and stumble into what may be a portal deep in the forests of Colorado? In this gripping and bizarre episode, Mike and Todd recount their escalating encounters with strange smells, distorted visuals, vanishing orbs, and something climbing a pine tree that wasn’t quite real… or solid. From finding a giant barefoot track next to shredded underwear, to watching glowing eyes blink out on a silent trail, and even a surreal piano deep in the woods — this story has it all. You’ll hear about hotspots around Bailey, Leadville, and the Snowy Range, and a chilling warning they received: “If the forest goes quiet, and you hear a hum — back away.” Whether it’s a Sasquatch, a spiritual force, or something much stranger... this is one encounter they’ll never forget.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account comes from two men who followed a strange tip from a woman at the Sasquatch outpost in Bailey, Colorado. Where they ended up and what they ended up seeing is incredibly intense. This is the story of Mike and Todd in the night the forest opened up. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome to the show today.

We've got two individuals. that we'll be talking to today. We've got Mike and Todd. These two gentlemen have had some interesting encounters over the years. They've been involved with an expedition with Mr. Jim Myers from the Sasquatch Outpost. So we've got some really interesting things to talk about today. So Mike and Todd, how are you guys doing today? Doing good, Jeremiah. Thank you for being on the show. It's a honor. I'm Mike from Wyoming. I live in Wyoming. Yeah, doing good as well. My name's Todd, and I live in Northern Colorado. Thank you as well.

And I've been listening to your show, working my way up to get current and enjoying each and every one. What was it that introduced you guys to the world of the Bigfoot? I always look back at when I was a kid, I had this, remember getting these books from, I don't even know what it was. I think it was a Woolworth store back then or something like that. But they were these books that had like one page kind of blurbs on different things. I remember like Locknest Monster and the pyramids and different random things. But one of the things I remember was reading about Bigfoot.

And I got a few books. My parents signed me up for a book club kind of thing where they mailed your books every month or whatever. And there were a couple. I know one was Bigfoot and one was about a Yeti. And I actually kept those until actually moved to Colorado here. And I gave them my kids to read. And they weren't so interested in reading them because they were all books. But I remember reading them after digging them out of the box.

So that's kind of my thing when I just remember back when I was a kid. Jeremy, when I was a kid, I was in a dinosaurs. And I followed the Loch Ness Monster on any show I could. And then one day I came across in search of with Leonard Nimoy and he did the Patty, the Patterson Gimlin film. And I was like, if dinosaurs exist, then Bigfoot must be a caveman. And that got me into it. All right. So extremely interesting.

I mean, similar to stories such as myself as well, you know, introduced to those shows and those books. but what was it guys that made you cross the line from watching shows and books to actually maybe going out and having an encounter? Is it something that just happened organically one day? I kind of got reintroduced to it or more interested in it with finding Bigfoot and seeing that they came to Colorado and that was a thing and I never really considered it at that point. And living and call it,

like I'm in the hiking and camping and fishing and stuff, but I took a job in Leadville and working at the hospital up there. And that was in, like 2012 through 2014. team and just being into the finding Bigfoot thing and I ended up having conversations with one of the maintenance guys up there and I kind of had my first experience up there that made me really think like this is possible and this is you know this is a thing maybe and um and um you know kind of kind of started me on that that path of like wanting

to go out, wanting to learn more and seeing what's all out there. That if they're not just in Washington or California, they're here too. And then finding out, I'm also from Pennsylvania originally, finding out there from there as well. And, you know, looking back of like, did I have anything going on that, like, I couldn't explain. And I couldn't really think anything. but, you know, just having that possibility that that could have been, you know, something maybe, who knows, but, you know, nothing really stuck out then. But my, my first real experience was in Leadville. Mine was, I was watching, finding Bigfoot to an expedition, Bigfoot, and listen to your podcast and then West Germers podcast.

and I started putting the pieces of the puzzle together that these things that happened in the past that I couldn't explain was possibly Bigfoot related. And that got me on the path and I met Todd. And then we started hiking and doing some research in Colorado. And that led up to the Bailey incident. but I do have some stuff as when I was younger. I'm a big outdoorsman. I love to fish hike. My friends were in a honey.

So many years ago, we would, there was a group of five of us, me, my brother. And then there was Bob Perry and Troy. And we would all go camp and fishing every weekend we could. We used to go up to Curt Gowdy State Park, Crystal. And then we went up in the medicine bow, the snowy range area to Lake Owen. And we had, when we were younger, we stayed in a tent. And we would play, it's a crazy game, but we used to king of the tent. We would put draw straws, whoever had the shortest would get in the middle,

but four guys on each end of the tent, put all the sleeping bags where things would hurt us. And we would just beat each other up, you know, wrestle, whatever we could to get somebody to forfeit and get out of that tent. And you were king of the tent. It was kind of a crazy game. But one incident, my brother got pushed into the edge of the tent. Something grabbed his hair and held him. He screamed. He couldn't move.

We were trying to pull him in. He was stuck through the nylon tent. Something just, we had longer hair back there in the 80s and something had his hair good. My friend at the time, we didn't know he was loaded, had a gun, ran around the side with it. There was nothing out there. We couldn't find anything. And he said, Raccoon. which made sense.

You know, the raccoon has a little hands. About an hour later, one of our fishing pots, you could hear it dragging off into the rocks and trees. You could hear it clang in the hallway. Bob went running out after it again with spotlight and his gun. And so the raccoon had taken his fish. That skillet was heavy. It was heavy cast ironback in the days. They don't make them like that anymore.

And it just didn't, you know, at that time when he said raccoon, I was like, yeah, that was the easiest thing to think it was. but it didn't make sense. How could it carry that? Those cast iron pans were heavy. And years later, up there, there were as many times where they have, I guess you'd call it a gondola, where I'd take my dad in a picnic table there, we could fish from where the crick goes into the lake. Many times walk and there's bushes to the right, there's the creek to the left. As I'm walking towards the lake, it just felt, I felt uneasy.

Like I'm being watched, but I couldn't see anything. And one time it was so bad. The wind was blown and everything and I walked by the bushes and it was like I ran into a brick wall. The wind stopped. All the sound was stopped. I stopped there carrying some sodas to go back to my dad and lunch. And I don't know what compelled me to do it, but I sat there and stared and I said, I know you're there. There was nothing.

There was nothing. It's just like I wanted some kind of reaction. I didn't know what it was at the time, but I knew it felt like I was being watched. and then years later we would go to Kurt Gowdy State Park that I hope somebody comes forward on this and between crystal and granite reservoir we used to fish down in the creek and one of the weirdest me and my friend Bob would throw rocks at each other try to Bob had some plumbers crack going on so I would throw a little teeny rocks to try to see if I could get it into his back in you know like a little hoop well we started to get hit with rocks that I'd be like Bob stop throwing rocks those are bigger

and he swore he didn't do it. Later that summer, me and him and another friend of mine, Scott, were fish and it was foggy, went to this ledge and has a six-foot ledge above us. There was a little waterfall, and we could see the fish in there the night before, so we were going to get there, but we spooked him.

We were going to get there early in the morning, and fog was heavy in. We're sitting there. Me and Scott, Bob is just up the way, and rocks are being, like, if somebody's to the top of that, kicked off onto us. And I thought for sure, you know, that I told Scott, Bobby's messing around with us. And some rocks were going in the water is pissing me off because I thought it might scare the fish.

But it turned out that Scott started throwing some rocks back. And I was like, oh, let him go. Let him have his fun. Scott picked up some bigger rocks. We, you couldn't hear anything getting hit. But on the third time, oh, probably a little bigger than a 50-cent rock, he threw it back. and you can hear the son. It made contact with something solid up there. And I was like, oh my gosh, you hit him. And at that moment, we heard a sound that almost was like A-E-I-O-Woo together, but it was a deep grunt.

Like, I can't even do it, but it's like, I looked at Scott, Scott looked at me. I panicked. First thing I was thinking is push Scott towards that wall so I could get across the other side. Mountain Line came into my mind. That's the only logical thing I could think of at that time. Scott was just quivering. We couldn't hear this.

We couldn't hear it moving. It didn't make another sound. It stopped the rocks. Mark, another one of our friends to the far end, Bobby had caught a fish. And we'd heard it. And I screamed, Bob, we're catching fish left and right over here. I could barely get the voice out of my mouth. I was so scared.

Scott was sitting there trembling. And when Bob came over, he said, oh, you guys are catching a lot. I said, there's something up there. and of course he was back and he walked up. I walked behind him. Nothing. I don't, Jeremiah, this, this can, this canyon is steep. There is no way when we were going down that, I'd have to lean to the edge.

You take a step and you're almost going three, four feet down on granite, the little rocks, because it's just so steep. There's no way anybody could run up that. No way anybody could be anywhere around there that we couldn't see them. And there was nothing up there. But again, I played that off. is mountain lion. But there are several times we were down there, just me and Bob by herself fishing.

And I'd be like, do you feel that? And he said, yeah, there's some yo-yo's up there watching us fishing. If you get a fish, let the drag go out. Don't let them know because that was a good hunting spot down there for fishing. Several times like that, that we just felt like we were being, watched is not the right word. It was so strong. It was like we were being observed. I felt like we were little ants in an ant farm.

that somebody on the outside was watching and we were the ones being watched. I never seen anything. That was the only time I ever heard anything. Never smelt anything there. But yeah, that had and then probably a month after that, a gentleman had been fishing very close to where we were. And this was a secondhand story, but I got to talk to this guy. He left there because, well, his wife, he had him and his wife and he had a a Volkswagen Beetle back in the days. His wife started screaming.

His wife and kids were up there towards the creek. He was more towards the lake. Come running around the corner. And what he described, he said, looking over the rock was Bigfoot. And back in the 80s, of course,

everybody was laughing at him. And my brother told him, said, my brother's into that. Would you talk to him? And when I went up to talk, he was really reluctant to say anything, you know,

because everybody was laughing at him. But he took off. He left his kids and wife there and took off back to town. and then had some of these friends come back to get his wife. I was like, oh, my gosh, it was about right where the spot that happened. And we, again, we blew it off as maybe hysteria because I wanted to be real, but it never scared us from going back to that fissionary.

But my brother, with that incident with the tent, he never went camping again. It scared him too bad. So that kind of leads us up to Bailey. I was working with Todd and we decided to do some research, I guess you would call it. We just went looking at a hike and to see if we could find anything and went to Sasquatch Outpost, ran into a lady there. I don't know if we could use her name, so I won't. But as soon as we walked in, we were asking where are the good places to go around Bailey

for any kind of Bigfoot footprints or evidence. And she looked at me and Todd and said she could read our oras, that we had purple oras around us and she goes, I'm going to give you my secret honey hole, where to go? So me and Todd went there and I'll have Todd jump in two week. Walked up in this area. It was steep and they had cameras, which was real weird. They had cameras on the picnic like the vestibules out there. We walk up and we, I found a little footprint that looked like a little human footprint.

Show Jim up there and he didn't think it was anything. But I was like, who would have their kids up? We were off the terrain, and it just seemed real rough to have kids. It was probably about four or five inches long, maybe two or three inches across, but Jim didn't think it was much. And then we found a bigger footprint we took a picture of. And we ended up finding somebody, I'll let Todd go into the piano, but we found somebody's, there was somebody's underwear that was all ripped up on the bush as we were walking up. We thought that was really weird.

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And Todd screamed at me and I went to turn around real quick. And I thought, oh, crap, mountain line. There was a deer, not 10 feet away from Todd, a buck that just set, and looked at us and I was like, how did we not see that as we got so close to it? Didn't move until we were talking back and forth and it went off about 20 feet from us. And there's a dope. I was like, how did we not see these things? You know, they were right there in front of us because we were looking for other stuff.

But I'll let Todd go on. And there was a piano we found in the forest that I, that was strange. Yeah. So the lady at the fast watch outposts, directed us to go there and she told us about this piano in the woods kind of showed us on the map on her phone generally where it's located it's not an official trail

but if you follow it there's a trail but we went up and yeah we saw the little footprint there's another another one it was more of a game trail that we kind of followed and yeah it was like you know it was like a little kid print, like maybe like a five-year-old size.

And it was kind of in the dry, dusty part of the dirt that, you know, it kind of stood out. And then they kind of noticed looking out that there's a little bit of a hill. And you could see that it was the boundary of the park that we were at, but there were cabins. It was almost like it was, they were using that if it was, you know, if it was a big foot or even just people. Like you could oversee the cabins. without really being seen, like it was in the trees a little, like after kind of thinking about where it was. And then, yeah, where we were, where the deer were, there was a lot of tree bends and what could be structures in that area. And, yeah, the deer being that close.

Like, and it was, like, it kind of jumped up behind me. And, like, I was, I was ready to go. you know, I was, it was, you knew it was something bigger and it was close and I didn't see it. So what the heck could it be? But it was kind of weird that we weren't really, we weren't trying to be quiet in any way. You know, we were talking back and force and, you know, you would think something like a deer would just kind of get out of there on its own, not let us get that close. But, yeah, then we went with, we, then we got to the piano. The piano, the piano. itself is kind of weird because it's this old wooden piano in the middle of the woods. And there's some landscaping that don't really know, like, flagstone landscaping and places to sit. But there's no, like, there's no plaque or anything. It's like, it's a memorial maybe.

But, like, who put it there and what the reason for and all that is, don't know. And I've seen people post like Colorado photography on Facebook where they found the piano. And I've asked the question of like, does anybody know the purpose? And nobody responds. And I've went back and there were people there on horseback. And they thought it was weird. And again, no idea what it was for.

But it's kind of weird to be out there where it's at. And then, you know, we went past where the piano was. And that's where, yeah, there was a pair of like tidy, witty underwear hanging in a bush that were shredded. So we were saying somebody had a bad time one way or another that they, one left their underwear and, you know, they just disappeared. There's, it's just, and it's a park. It's just hiking, day use kind of thing. It's not camping.

So people shouldn't be out, you know, that that was somebody camping there or whatever to leave them. But there was a, there was a big footprint near that that kind of noticed, like, the moss was like kicked up like in front of it and what looked like toes to me what I caught and you know it was like well maybe somebody's bad time was they ran into that big foot but um you know it was just a you know it was just a weird thing um I went back up geez the next that was in September I was 2021 and we went back up. I went back up with my family the next year. You know, and it,

things actually seemed different, you know, going on the same trails, went to the, went to the piano and went past it. And it was like, it's the same, but it's different to me. I don't know. Like, I didn't notice all the, the tree bends and stuff like that. But, you know, it's just, it's just a weird, you know, kind of area. There's been some weird stuff that's went on. There was a incident where there is a body found up there. And it was on the news and was following what was going on. And, like, they posted a story and I can't remember the exact wording, but it was like,

well, they shut the park down completely that people couldn't go in. while they did this search, but the guy was reported missing and they found them. And it sounded like it was an animal attack-related kind of thing. But there was no follow-up. And then the story just disappeared of like, you know, go to the same web page and you can go back and find the story. I'm like, I can't even find this old story to be like, you know, you know, you know, You know, who, you know, who to follow up with or anything. Then maybe contact is to be, just out of curiosity.

But, you know, it was just a weird thing. And it was, you know, it's a place, place that you go that you kind of want to know, like, hey, is there. I mean, there's mountain lions and bears pretty much everywhere in the mountains in Colorado. But like, is that a, is there a problem bear or a mountain lion kind of thing? but yeah i haven't been able to find anything more on that and i even asked um jim myers on about it um he does he's mentioned how he he gets called out with the corner and stuff if there's traffic accidents and stuff and he said he wasn't aware of anything with that himself so and it's one of his one of the areas that i would imagine he he would be going if people that he works

goes there too. So I want to clarify a few things just to make sure I have it all together in my head because in that account there's a lot you guys threw out there. So it's an area where you hike into it. There's a stand-up, like old school piano. You found a large footprint with toes. that was near a is a pair of underwear

that had been ripped in some way. Is that all correct? It sounds great, but that's correct. Yeah, they were like shredded just hanging out on a bush. Guys, that's some missing 4-1-1 stuff right there. Like if I've ever heard it, my goodness. I was going to, you know, and I don't know why I didn't take a picture of that underwear,

because I told Todd, I was like, this looks bad. It was, it looked like, it was, I don't know how to explain it. Todd, it looked like it was ripped off someone and put on a bush. I was like, oh, dear God, what is this? Yeah.

Oh, boy. How, what was the length of the footprint? Would you be able to, did you be able to get a feel for that in any way? It was big. It was, yeah, bigger than mine. Yeah, we put Todd's shoe next to it. Yeah, we're 11 and a half. Oh, wow.

Not like, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not like I have huge feet, but, you know, it was noticeably longer and wider than mine. The width had to be, the width looked like it was six inches. It was so wide. It was crazy white. Gotcha. And just, just the one footprint then? Just the one. It was at a soft spot right there because the rest is kind of rocks and some brush. So if he stepped again and we looked all over for a, a. of them, but there's bushes. You know, there's a little brush that maybe 12, 13 inches tall. It's, we tried.

We tried to find another one. It's probably the only episode I'll ever be asking these questions, hopefully. So was this a larger pair of underwear or smaller? It was large. It wasn't open. It was an adult. Well, either way, it's not a good, not a good thing. But was there any, anything that I guess is torn off of it, but anything that made it look like it was bloody in any way or just, you know, normal pair?

No, I don't think we see any blood on it. It just looked like normal pair that have been shredded, ripped. Yeah, they just look like dirty, like weather. they're kind of. Yeah, they'd have been there a while. Gotcha. Gotcha. So like has the, the dirt of the forest on it. Yes. But it almost looked like it was placed in that bush. There's no way to win. Because it was on the backside of the bush that would have been,

that wind would have came from the northwest. It was opposite of that. So there's no way that the wind just pushed it over on that side of the bush. It looked like somebody placed it there. It sounds like, well, and roughly how long does it take you to get to this area where this is in the woods? Like from the parking lot? Yeah, yeah. Not too long. Maybe like.

We actually went farther back than we thought, because we came back behind some guy's cab and we somehow got way off track. from where we were and we came up to some guy's cabin and I told Todd oh we need to swing more to the north because we don't want to come up this guy's backyard. Todd had you said around like 20 minutes something like that. Yeah, maybe if you were going to walk straight, you know, like just go straight back to that. You know, it wasn't that far. But, you know, we were checking this out here and going over here. You know, we were following this straight back the trail. You know, we just kind of kind of just wandered into that.

And that's weird. That's one of the weirder things I've heard on this show, to be honest. And that's where, you know, and I told Todd, I called him the day after and said, did you see when we were up at that, I don't even mind giving the place away. Do you, Todd? Oh, no, no. You know, because a lady told us that's her favorite big foot place. Oh, yeah, I don't give it away.

Yeah, said, I told Todd, I said, did you see there's a missing guy up there now? and they closed the park down because we were going to go up that weekend. And Todd checked into it a lot more. I was like, what is going on? And Todd's right. It was on the news and it just disappeared. It's, I don't know. I hate to say cover up, but it just disappeared.

Okay. So that's right. So there was a body found in the same area or in the same park you're saying. Close. Yeah. It wasn't. Close. It wasn't right after it was like,

I want to say like a year and a half later. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was the next year, but I mean, it was in that place. Yeah. Gotcha. Oh, man, that's very, very weird. It makes me wonder, like, why, what else this individual has had happened in this area if, like, this is her special spot, you know? Oh, she told us to me and Todd, she's seen three juveniles there.

And this is crazy because this is going to lead it. into our big encounter with Jim, but she told me and Todd said, you guys got a promise and do me a favor. And I said, what? She said, if you walk and everything goes quiet, and you hear a humming or buzzing, she said, please, backtrack, go backwards, do not go forwards. And she was talking about portals up there. And I, you know, at that time, Jeremiah, I was like, this is a bunch of monarchy. But yeah, she made it clear to me and Todd, if you hear some buzzing, or humming, she said, and the forest goes quiet. She said, back up.

So this is interesting. I don't know if you guys follow the Untold Radio Network and Chris Reinhart and all those guys, Doug's channel. But they've been getting data from all over the U.S. where there's this hum that's being captured, this buzzing, it's 40 hertz. And I just interviewed Chris, and it can be replicated using a tuning fork. And allegedly, when you play it, like, it will pretty much bring the weird stuff in. So that's really, really interesting that you just mentioned that that is, that similar thing is heard in the same area. Todd, no turning forks.

Do not bring those to us. We have enough. We have enough weird stuff, Jeremiah. I was thinking of it. No, I'm not going with you if you do that. Oh, yeah, and I did, and I'll say in this one, too, that's for entertainment purposes only. Be careful messing around with stuff. Yeah, you don't, yeah, be careful messing with.

And the gentleman that was on your show that ran into that nine foot, big foot right out of Bailey, we met him up in Estes. I've got to talk to him. Yeah, we got to talk to her about the Nes. So when you were in this piano area, did it, did you, you didn't hear any of the humming or it didn't get super quiet, nothing like that. Okay, okay. No, I was, I joked around because the piano still mostly plays.

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And I was like, it's like, you wonder if you play the right or the wrong tune. Right. kind of thing that does it bring something or you know or like it was like how creepy is it like if you're out hiking and you hear a piano you know like that's just something hitting just keys not even playing any yeah you know you're like that would be so weird and uh yeah it's like it's it's Todd do you remember what that inscription said that was on that rock on that piano oh geez yeah It was weird. It said something like,

like you were meant to be here right now, something like that. It was weird, it was painted. And it was just sitting there. And it was like, no, that's kind of weird.

And, yeah, I remember when went back, that rock wasn't there. So somebody might probably took it with them when they found it. But it's like, yeah, like,

what am I meant to be here for, you know, when you really, if you sit down and think of it. Yeah, that's weird, guys. What did, did you go back to the outpost and share with that lady like, okay, here's what we found? It was a little weird. We did. And she told us was like, I have seen, because we were, okay, we were getting close to, we're getting real close to the trip now. she was the one that suggested we do the trip

and she'd said she'd seen three juveniles and I was like, how often do you see them? And she goes, when I go out there, they come around and I was like, I told Todd, we need to go with her. She seemed to know a lot. And I don't know what you call her, Todd. What is she a medium? She could read doors and she knew a lot.

You know, I look for her every time we go up there. to ask her just questions in general because of the crazy thing that happened up there. But she knew, without getting, oh, say, with, okay, so I'm going to jump to the end real quick, just so this little tidbit, and then we'll start at the beginning. But me and Todd was having breakfast and I was like, I got to go talk to Jim. You know, that was just a weird night. So I went in to see him. And the other two people, I don't think they would mind us given their name.

they were in there at the same time. And they were talking to Jim's wife about what had happened because he had left early. He was out with his friend doing some research real early in the morning. They were over talking to his wife. And we walked up to this lady and she goes, something happened last night, didn't it? And I was like, well, and she goes, were you two with those two over there? And I was like, yeah. And she goes, oh, dear Lord, she knew that this kind of jumping ahead, but she knew that this girl

I don't even know how to describe her, Jeremiah, but she has, she said she's had dog men sightings. She draws things. She could talk to ghosts. I was like, I don't want any part of that. But this lady, as soon as she's seen that, she goes, something happened. You got to sit here and talk to us. So that was after the trip. And it's like she could read everything.

She knew she said something happened. And I said, yeah, something happened. And I don't think it was Bigfoot. But she was like, nope, nope, it was totally a big. foot and he was she said they pick on a certain person and for your viewers in case they run into a situation she told me if i and if i would have said out loud you're scaring me stopped she said they usually will stop and i was like why didn't jim tell us that before any of this happened but it's time to get into the crazy story now you want to start it well okay you know what i'll

start it because the things happen to me first and then right when we start getting into the canyon i'll go over to todd so we show up and i told todd i was like i'm kind of i didn't know jim you know from joe but i knew he had guided bigfoot tours and he had uh backpacking and camp and tours and i i told todd i'm skeptic i think he's going to sit out there and have some friends bang on some trees and holler back and i would be the one to jump of anybody and so i told todd before going in, I said, I'm going to basically for a better term, I don't myself up. So I took beta blockers, some anti-anxiety medicine, some clonidine that slows your heart rate. I said, you know, Godzilla could have jumped in front of me.

And I wouldn't, it should not have affected me. I should have been like, whoa, you know, because everything should have been really, let's just say my flight or fight should not have kicked in. It would have been impossible. but we get out. He goes to the part of the, I think we could, again, I don't know. That's one of his spots. So we show up at this park and he goes to one side. He goes, I'm worried that we might get trapped in here. Let's go around. Did you guys see where the hours is? He said he knew the people in the park and I said, I didn't see it. So we ran over, he wanted to go to one spot. He said, well, I'm going to take it to a second spot. What I really was, I told Todd, I did, I hope the people

real cool. We ran into a gentleman about our age and his daughter. And I was like, oh, thank God. You know, I thought we'd run into some people we wouldn't like. But they were really nice. And we got along well. And we had read the Bigfoot report and seen a movie. I think it was tearing the woods with two ladies that was on Kenosha Pass. And a Bigfoot had chased him down. And it's on the BFRO website there. She reported to that and to the police. And so I was hoping we were going to Kenosha Pass, but we ended up going to another one of his spots. We get out, I have so much things. I bought this infrared flare. I had so many things, Jeremiah on me. I was, I was a real green horn. I had everything. I was prepared. I thought, we step out and not even

20 feet from the car. Jim goes, I want you guys to look at this. This is a big foot break. And I went to look and I was like, now, how do you know it's a big foot break? And he goes, it's been twisted and looking at it, it did. It looked like something that you would put your hands on and twist an object almost like a slinky. It was so crazy that it was one of the few trees in the park right by that parking lot. He goes, Bigfoot did that. We walked up. So it was Jim, it was this gentleman, I don't think they would mind saying their names, but I'm just going to leave him out. So it was Jim and a gentleman. This, his daughter, me and Todd, I'm bringing up the rear.

I'm trying to get all my stuff situated. We're talking to her and she said, yeah, we live close to Utah. And she said, you know, by where that we don't say its name. And her dad said, what are you talking about? And she goes, you know, we don't say its name. And I said, what are you talking about? And she goes, the TV show. And I was like, are you talking Skinwalker Ranch?

And she flipped out. She's like, we don't say that. We don't bring that kind of mojo to us. It's going to be bad luck. and she grabbed my arm at that point. This is just a whole bunch of circumstances going up there. She grabs my arm. She said, we don't say that.

We don't ever, that's going to bring bad mojo our way. So somehow I trailed behind them trying to get things. I feel the best way to describe it, Jeremiah, is someone's pulling my shirt. I turn around, there's no one there, walk a little bit, pulls again. I was like, this got to be static cling. But I have a shirt on. I have a sweatshirt because it's supposed to be cold that night. I have a backpack on, but I could still feel towards the lower part of my back, my shirt being pulled.

Freaked me out. So I walked up to Todd and said, will you get behind me because I'm worried about losing one of my, I had so much equipment on me. And he said, sure, he did that and it stopped. And I was waiting for him to scream, you know, someone's pulling my shirt, but he never did. We go up a little farther. Now we're getting to the canyon. I'll let Todd jump in and we'll kind of go back and forth.

But we're getting to the canyon now, and it's getting darker. So going back a little bit, like what Mike said, we went to the one area, and Jim was afraid they were going to lock the gate on us. So we went back out and parked at another area. And he showed us the tree break. And he kind of explained, you know, we asked him why. He says that's Bigfoot and he said, well, it's twisted, but then he said how trees don't usually break in the middle. They don't usually break six, eight feet up.

They break at the bottom. They break at the top, you know, and they usually don't do that from snow load. And if it is snow load in Colorado or when, they usually blow over because the soil is shallow, so the roots are shallow. And you see that all the time here. So, you know, it's kind of a, okay, so this is what we're, what we should maybe be looking for, you know, add that to the, to the knowledge kind of thing. You know, we got to the, we kind of were cutting. We weren't on trail. We were kind of cutting through to get to the trail.

we and once we got to the trail there's a creek that it's a small creek it's real shallow maybe ankle deep at the most but it's not like I wouldn't say it's a

canyon like vertical wall canyon but it's steep on both sides it's not something you're just going to walk up it's going to take some effort so it kind of when you get to that part start feeling a little closed in. The guy we were with, he's a hunter,

and he kind of said how he wasn't necessarily comfortable with that, knowing there's mountain lions and stuff. And, you know, you're giving them, we're taking the low ground and giving them the high ground. But Jim also explained that that's kind of what we're trying to do for the Bigfoot to make them more comfortable to come see us. You know, we're being vulnerable. You know, and it's like one of those like, okay, cool, but I don't know if I'm all right with that.

You know, it's like, you know, this, I don't know, it's getting dark and, you know, you don't usually just go out on a hike somewhere with, you know, a couple of strangers and, you know, hope for the best. but we went, and I'm like, since it's been a while, I'm like, we, I'm trying, we, we came across the spot. Oh, the guy we were with, and I was in the, we were in the front at that point. We kind of like rotated and we were chatting and stuff on the way, getting to know each other. Hey, what do you know, what do you know and how do you feel about this and that kind of thing? but we hit this like smell and I didn't know how to explain it at first but it was I mean it was one of it's it's like how other people say there's nothing and then all of a sudden

it's just a strong smell it smelled like the guy that we were with said it smelled like like rotting salmon and there was something else there too but it was like yeah that's it's like If you just left a salmon that you caught, there's a land out in the sun all day, you know, it's going to smell pretty bad. But it was just weird how, like, you could step into it, step out of it. And, you know, we were all like, yeah, we all smell the same thing.

It's there. It's not there. You know, and it's getting dark. And Jim kind of explained, well, maybe it's a dead animal on the side hill. And because it's coming the evening, the cool air is coming downhill, you know, and it's following, following down that way. He went off on the side, you know, trying to find whatever. And we're like, dude, you're crazy because if it's like a mountain lion kill,

you know, you probably don't want to come upon that, not knowing what's all up there. But, you know, it was really, it was really weird at that point. And I actually went back up to this area. This was, what, Saturday? Saturday night. I went back up on Wednesday and kind of wanted to see it during the day so I could justify some things to myself. And that smell was still there. And it wasn't any better or any worse.

And I was doing the same thing. Step into it, step out of it, step out of it. Step into it, step out of it. And I actually had a thing of chalk and I drew chalk on the rock of like the borders. And it's like, that is really weird. Now, like, I would think if it was a dead animal that it would have in the summertime in August, it's going to either get worse or get better. Something's going to drag it off, finish eating it. Like the people that the rangers or whatever in the park would have found that there have been hike, you know, there's plenty of hikers that go through there, like something.

But it's just weird that the smell was just like in the middle. of the trail. You know, you got off on the sides, it really wasn't there. But, you know, it was kind of a, I don't know, it was, there was, I don't know, I had this like nervous tension, anxiety going into this of not knowing what might or might not happen. And you're anticipating the unknown and hoping for the best, like, We're there to see Bigfoot, you know, but what are we going to do if we see Bigfoot? You know, like, that kind of thing. But, you know, it was like we go from like tree break and then we get this smell thing.

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That's their first initials. So B stopped, bees in front of me and says, oh, do you smell that? And Kay said, no, I didn't smell anything. And then I walked into it and Todd Wright, it's a wall. Kay said it smelled like rotten salmon. I walk in and I was like, it's like dead fish. in like road kill. It was so bad.

I can't even describe it. I've never smelt anything like that. And Jim goes, where is it? And I was like, I don't know. I don't smell anymore. We step back and it's literally just this wall of funk in the trail.

So Jim said, where are you smelling it? And he goes, oh, dear Lord. He goes, I think that's a kill. You know,

a mountline has maybe killed something and has, has it up here. He goes, give me a hand. I gave me my walker that I had my, what do you call that? Todd? stick. Oh, hiking pole.

Hiking pole. So I, yeah, thank you. I gave him that. He walked up there because he had a knee brace on. I was worried about him falling. I kind of go up with him and he's digging around in the bushes with that pole trying to see if he could find something dead up there. And I was like, like Todd said, we're like, Jim, that's not a good idea. If there's a mountain lion kill right there, you're going to get pounced on. That thing could be anywhere here. So he came down, he couldn't find anything. He said, there's nothing right here. And I was like, there is something right here. It is so strong. we go up a little bit. It's getting dark now, and Jim says, let's stop at this, this little, it was like a little resting area right next to that creek. Jim goes, all right, at this time, I'm going to calm the savage beast. And he goes, I'm going to sing.

He started singing. So we let him do he's singing. And he goes, everybody close their eyes and pray to the Sasquatch and let them know that we're not here to harm them. And we, you know, we mean good intention. and how you feel and what you'd like, you know, maybe they'll show themselves. So this sounds bad, Jeremiah, but I was like,

all right, Bigfoot, I'm here. I'd like to see some proof. If you're out there, I said, please throw something at my friend's head. This is going to go on later. It did not happen this night, but Todd's got some stuff to tell you a little later after this trip.

So we're sitting there doing a little chance and everything. And Todd, I'm talking to Jim. I was like, yeah, I got these. He was like, what do you, what did you bring? And I said, I got these cool night vision that, um, you could see. I was like, and he said, oh, yeah, I've seen that before. He had a little monocular. And at that point, Todd taps me on the shoulder and said, do you see that? And just out of my peripheral vision, I was talking to Jim, I was turning towards Todd. Well, I could see between the two trees, it was like dark and then light. And I was like, uh, there's something right there. And Jim goes, what are you guys looking at?

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of this on my phone as we're talking his his channing and everything and i forgot to but grab my night vision goggles that i didn't know had audio on it the audio kicked on i told jim it's not working and he said what do you mean it's not working i was like it's not working i can't get it to work it just was working a second ago so he started fooling around with it he couldn't get it to come on either i was like what the heck. I was like, and he said, well, Bigfoot drains energy, I know from batteries, phones, and all this. And I was like, my night vision's not working at all right now. So I couldn't see where Todd seen that thing up in the hill. I couldn't look through it because my,

my night vision wasn't working. Todd, did you want to add some to that? Yeah, so, well, after Jim did his song and we were talking, kind of just talking to the forest kind of saying the guy we were with B, he did an elk call, was like an oak bugle. And then his daughter did a scream. And it was, she had this like, banshee scream.

It was a banshee scream. It was like, I was next to her and I was like, oh, geez, my ears. But it was like, that was a good scream. You know, like, whatever's out there sure heard us, you know, doing our thing. So, but yeah, we were sitting there just kind of just chatting and just,

you know, doing our thing. And yeah, I was, I sat on a rock where I was kind of facing across the trail. And I'm staring across the trail. And I'm like, man, there's something moving over there. And it was like darker than the leaves on the trees. Like, it was like almost like a shadow moving. um that like but i was just sitting there staring at it for a while and i'm like it it is legitimately it's not just one area like i'm following it from like left the right and i'm it's like

thinking man i'm seeing things like it's just me like it's it's it's the it's the nerves it's you know but i'm just staring at it staring at it and then i'm like i got to say something and Mike was the closest to me. So I'm like, do you see this over here? You know, and it's literally just across the trail. It was like 15, maybe 20 feet away, which is dang close for anything at that point. And, you know, it was, I didn't hear anything, but we were next to the creek that it's pretty loud for the size of it. it. It's because it's flowing through, you know, it's pretty much solid rock that it's going through, you know, and it,

it, like, probably wouldn't, you know, we're trying to hear, listen for it, but it's getting, whatever's over there is definitely not making enough noise, you know, more than the creek. So it's like, it's just weird, you know, with, you know, him, him pulling out in, Like, it just doesn't work. And I don't know. Not too long after that, like, nobody else seemed to see it. But we're like, all right, let's go further up the trail. And as we're going, Jim, you know, it's getting darker. It's like literally about the same time. At night, same level of brightness.

That's probably a little darker than it is currently right now. And it's like 8. Well, 8.30 here. So, you know, the sun's fading pretty quick at this point. But when we get up, it's dark then. So Jim tells us about the eye glow. And how, well, he, one of the, one of the things on our list to bring were binoculars. And I was like, why would we need binoculars at night? Like, what good is that going to do?

And when we get to this point, he explains that because you see a point of light, you get out your binoculars, then you see two. So he's like that's you know they're further you know you're seeing them from further away it looks like one and then you have the binoculars. So of course, you know, didn't have my binoculars because it was like we don't we don't need binoculars at night. But he is also saying, you know, it's best to see them using your peripheral vision. So I'm walking like turning my heads to the side, you know, kind of looking up the trail. the best I can as it's getting dark. And I'm doing side to side and, like, putting my head, my chin on my shoulders and, like, looking up, you know, and, like, lifting my head up and looking, you know, down my nose kind of thing.

See, hey, can I see anything? Pretty sure it was Jim was, like, there's eyes up ahead. And I was, like, you know, moving my head. oh yeah, I see, I think I see what you're talking about. That, you know, we're going up a hill. And it looked to me like it would be almost like they were up in a tree or they were like way up the trail. But, you know, it's hard to tell, you know, perspective-wise at that point. But, you know, it was super exciting because you're just talking about it.

And that's like what you're here to see. And, you know, it was like, okay, so, you know, I'm seeing, you know, talking to Jim, like, I'm seeing it's like a light yellow amber color. He's like, yeah, he's like, and he's like, if you, you know, if you, you're watching them and they blink out. and like yeah I'm seeing that too and the whole time there wasn't any real breeze or anything so it wasn't like it was a light in the distance and trees you know the trees and the leaves were blowing kind of thing it was like we're all staying in there looking at it like like yeah like that's what I'm seeing and then um you know we spent a couple minutes there and then um um we spend a couple minutes there and then um um The other thing at this area, there's camping allowed, but you're not allowed to have campfires. And knowing where the camping is allowed was like, and we were down in the little canyon thing, so we wouldn't have seen it anyway.

It would have been like to our left and behind us at that point. So it wasn't, you know, a camper with a headlamp in the distance or anything. like that and we're there and it's dark. There shouldn't have been anybody coming the other way and we didn't have anybody come the other way. So, you know, it wasn't that. But we spent a couple of minutes just kind of kind of just observing and seeing what was going on. And then I don't know, we just, Jim decided that like,

let's move on, keep going up the trail. And we went, we didn't go very far after that. We just stopped and turned around to look back down the trail. And there's this same thing, this glow up in the tree, like what I presumed was in the tree. You know, because this is too high. And if it would have been a big foot, it would have been, you know, 30 foot tall big foot. So that's not what it was. But it seemed like it was in the tree to me.

Like we were looking, we were still looking up on it. But we were on the higher ground than we were before. So it wasn't sure if we walked far enough to walk past the first one. Or there was one in front of us and one behind us at that point. But, you know, still watching it. And it was moving. And it was purely, like, it was

on and off kind of thing, blinking. But then that's when the other thing started to happen. Probably let Mike explain his part of this because he was probably the biggest.

Yeah, the most affected, the biggest experienter on this. and like the rest of us were kind of, some of us saw it, some of us didn't. We all had a little different perspective on it. So, Jeremiah, as we're going up, what Todd forgot to tell you was a biker came down with his light on, and that's going to lead to what I see next.

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but without his light, I would have not known he was there and I would have got taken out. But we go up a little farther as he was saying we've seen some, they've seen some eyes. I didn't get to see the eyes at that time because they had the monocular and the binoculars and stuff was looking at this time, my night vision still was not. working. What I didn't know, it was recording the whole time. I didn't even know there was a record on

there. So it was recording audio the whole time. We go up, we did do a stay, we stopped with Jim and Todd had seen something and Kay had seen something on the hills. I couldn't, I was looking real hard. I wanted to see it. I couldn't find where they were looking at. But we go up to a little area and he goes, this is a good place to stop. And like he said, that's when I started seeing some amber. or are they seen some at first they seen some eyes and as I went looking back I or as I looked back down the trail and I thought it was on the trail but apparently it was higher I said oh gosh here comes another biker that's what it looked like it was white whiteish color like light blue color kind of mixed in there but one Jim looked at

it says it's not one there's eyes there well him and Todd are looking at it too there's seeing amber I'm seeing a whitish blue glow And the gates of hell then opened up at that point. We're all, Jim is leaning against Todd's shoulder looking. I sat down just to take a break. Kay, the girl is sitting me,

sitting next to me taking a break, and her dad is up. And we're kind of, and he's doing some weird. He said, talk. Don't be quiet. If you see stuff,

keep talking because we don't want to scare them away. We want to draw them in. He said, so if somebody says, look, look, keep talking. He said, don't,

don't be quiet. At that point, they're looking, and I'm looking at this white thing, and they said, no, it's two. It's eyes. And I said, I see one white, bluish, almost like an orb that I could describe. They said it's two sets of eyes, almond colored or almond red. I didn't see that. I seen a blue white light. At that moment, I noticed that in front of me, something looks weird.

It's like it's distorting. I told Jim, do you want me to let you know when weird things are happening? and he said, yeah, what's going on, Mike? I said, there's like hundreds of these fireflies flying towards us right now, just 20 feet out coming towards us. And Jim was like, anybody else see that? No one else seeing it. Then Kay, the girl said, yeah, I see him now.

They're coming. They're almost right in front of us. I said, they're all over the place. I can almost reach out. They look like little ants with glowing butts. I was like, where are they? They just came on a trail. It was what the lady at the Sasquatch Outpost said was a portal opening.

All kinds of bugs. I'm seeing that. Todd's next to me and saying I'm seeing some kind of, I'll let him explain and then I'll go into what just, it was crazy at that point on. But Todd's seeing what Todd, it was like a glimmer, a black, or? like what it took took me a little bit to figure out what mike was talking about i'm looking above where this is going on and you know he's he's talking about this thing that is basically the trail that we we just came up um so it you know it's down lower um and uh once i figure it out like what he, you know, trying to, he's describing it and being like, okay, so this is what I'm trying to look for.

I see it and it was just like, kind of like the, it didn't, it wasn't like a defined shape kind of thing. It was just, it's just an area in front of us. But it looked like, I don't know, it was trying to think of like trying to describe it as like TV static. like it's moving like quivering kind of thing um i get migraines and when i do the the the arrow from it it's like when you're um like if your computer monitor gets a little funky and starts like shaking on you and i get a little blur in that area that's what it looked like to me like something in one of those two things combined, you know, both of them. But it was really, you know, it was weird because I'm like, there's, there's a blurry spot on the trail. And I'm not getting a migraine. I know that

because I'm seeing fine everywhere else. Just this is one area. And, you know, it was really weird. And like, as it's going on, like, Mike starts sounding more. anxious to where I'm like, is he okay? You know, like we're, I'm like, you know, we're here together. I'm afraid he's going to get up and take off like one way or the other. You know, and just to be like, don't, don't run like it's dark. You're going to break an ankle kind of thing or, you know, that, those, you know, just those concerns. But I was standing there.

Mike was to my left and Jim was behind me. he was used in my shoulder as kind of a support as he's look he's not seeing it i think looking back like i couldn't see where he was pointed for sure but i think he was looking above it to where the eyes were and not below um to where what we were seeing but um um yeah it was definitely weird. I've never seen anything like that. And

I was I didn't know what to do myself. Like, do we get away from it? Do we go, what do we do? Like, is it going to come towards us? Is it, you know, something going to come out of this thing?

Like, I don't know. I don't know what it was, but it was just weird that we were seeing these eye glit. and then this other thing happens that's I really know no real explanation other than from hearing other people it could have been a portal how far away from it was you Todd?

It was just trying to think of like this it was maybe like 30 feet 40 feet you know but it was after the fact of it was on the trail that we just walk through. You know, like, if it was there before, we walked through that. The other way I could think to explain it was,

because I just saw it recently, we were out, and when you see the, the little gnats that kind of swarm, and if you see them and the light just catches them in the right way, like you notice them, you don't always see them from a distance, but then they get closer. And then, you know, it's like, it was like a swarm of those. But it was, it was weird for me.

I was just trying to be like, just keep it together. You know, like, don't, don't do anything dumb at this point because we don't know what that is. Yeah, Todd, we never talked about that, Jeremiah, how far we thought that was. 30 feet was probably, that's probably reasonable. That's about where I was thinking too. So I'm seeing these gnats. I'm to the right. Todd's next to me.

Jim's on the other side of Todd. B is on the side. The guy is on the side of Jim. Hey, the girl is right next, right in front of me, almost touching me. She starts to see it. And her dad's like, what do you see? And she goes, right here, they're little fireflies or something. And there's something weird right in front of us.

They're coming towards us. She tells her dad, I don't like this. I don't feel good. Something is not right. It feels evil. As soon as she said that, Jeremiah, they're talking about these eyes in the tree, Todd and Jim, I look up to where they're seeing these eyes. I see blue, that bluish white again.

I don't know how to describe it. I don't think it was an eye. I really think it was an orb, small orb. I would say tennis ball size. And it was putting off an amount of light. Again, it was light, but it wasn't like a flashlight shining out. I could see it. At that moment, where that light was, something, I don't even know how to describe it.

It's like it metamorphosed a blob, a black blob. As dark as it was, the best way to describe it, it was darker than night, the pitch dark a night. and it's going up this tree. It's on the edge of this huge pine that we're looking at, and it's morphusing up to the top. At that time, I panicked. I told Todd, do you have your gun? He said, yeah, and I was like,

even though in my heart I knew a gun one I'm going to do anything to that because it didn't seem physical, Kay told her dad said, Dad, do you have your gun? And he said, yes, baby, I have it. And Jim, it was packing too. I told Todd, get your gun ready. I don't know why he said that because I don't know what shooting would have done at it.

I think it was just a comfort to know that we had a gun. But in my heart, Jeremiah, I knew that whatever I was seeing, we couldn't stop it. I lost it. I had started sweating. I felt like I was going to, I was sitting on a rock and I had to grab this rock with all my might to the right side towards Todd. Because I thought I was sliding down into the creek. My balance was off. I was having a massive panic attack, which shouldn't have happened, not with that medicine.

I had never been in the fight or flight like that. Jim couldn't understand what I was seeing. He did not see what me and Todd and the girl was seeing. She didn't say anything about a portal, but she said, I see the bugs. I see them. It's weird.

It's like they're coming after us. It just belt and built up and built up. And Jim used Todd as like a tripod, try to get his monocular and was looking. And he said, where are you seeing this? And I said, it's in the tree.

It's in the tree. rolling to the ends of the branches. It's rolling up like a blob. That's the only way I could describe it, a big black blob going up. And the K's dad said, well, maybe it's a big foot, maybe Bigfoot. And I was like, there is no way anything could be on the edge of these pine limbs and not move them. They weren't moving at all, but it was going up almost, I don't know. That's why I thought paranormal.

I thought ghost or alien or something. I was like, this is weird. And Kay started screaming to her dad. We need to get out of here. We need to get out of here now. And he said at that point, he was like, they've got, whatever it is, they've got the high point on us. We're sitting down.

He goes, Jim, this is not safe. If we're going to get attacked, we're in trouble. We got a little bit of a cliff, a slight incline down to the creek. He said, we are sitting ducks right here. So we started going down the trail. I actually had to have Todd help me because I was so. shaking. I couldn't get up. I almost fell down. I was tripping over myself. Todd was helping me. And the K, the girl was helping me too as we went down. Jim and I got nervous getting near that big tree.

And I told Todd, I want to be against the wall, the other side of the wall opposite of that tree where I seen that stuff. I said, I don't want to go. And I could see the tree. I knew which one it was. I was like, it was a big pine. I said, I don't want anywhere near that pine. That thing's going to jump out on us. We start walking down there. I would say, 15, 20 feet ahead of us. It's Kay. It's me. It's Todd's behind me. I had Todd, but Todd was behind me helping me. All at once, all three to stop at the exact same time. I put my hand back so Todd doesn't run into me because it's dark. I put my hand in front. She looks to the right. I look to the right up the hill. She said, did you hear that? I said, yeah, I heard that. And Todd said, what'd you all

here. Kay said I heard footstep, like a twig break and laughter of like kids. And they looked at me and I said, I heard one big stomp. Like if something was on a rock and stepped down like a human, it was like a boom,

almost like a percussion of a heavy step to the right of us. And it was close. We're all staring. This thing could have been 10 feet away from this and it was so dark. We wouldn't have seen it. We're all looking right at. And we're all looking right at. And it was close. We're all looking right at. And it. And it. And it. And it was, we're all looking right at it. My heart's going just a million beats a minute. Todd said, I heard, I think he said a twig break in laughter, but he said down where the creek was, which made sense for me because my left year when I was young, I did fireworks and damaged my hearing on

that left side. So I would not have heard something on the left side. And the creek was muffling it out. But they heard laughing. We called Jim back. And Jim said, what did you all hear? and I was like, something heavy stepped. And I heard the percussion of the step. Like it stepped off of a rock or a log and went, boom. And as soon as it did that, boom, it stopped. I was keen in on right there. We were all staring.

Jim comes up and says, all right, let me get my, he's looking at his monocular. He said, where at? And I was like, it's right here. I mean, it is close to us that we're here. We all heard at the same time. He couldn't find it. There is no way it moved away from us. That was.

Just crazy. And I'll let Todd explain what he heard to at this moment. Then we'll go on from there. Yeah. So we all, we all, the three of us heard what we each heard. And it was at the same time.

I heard, I heard that laughter. And I didn't say anything. I was like, this is my, this is my mind playing tricks on me. Like, it,

you know, it was just me. Nobody else heard that. You know, but I heard. I would say the other side was the twig break. And it would just be something small, like small dry twig, like just, you know, nothing big, but it's really obvious that, you know, something over there broke a twig.

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Um, but I didn't say about the laughter. at first, since I wanted to see if the other people heard it, too. But it was just that, it was like creepy, like little kid laughter. And, yeah, thinking about it, that's what it was. It was really creepy. it was almost like at that point like something was messing with us trying to trying to scare us out or whatever um but uh oh then then it's kind of well sort of funny after that as we're we're walking out and where we're coming we're out of the the canyon part

and it it flattens out and there's like a meadow and stuff But we kind of came around the turn on the trail, and we see what we thought was more eye glow in the distance. And it was kind of one of those like, oh, there's two, and there's four. There's like eight. And it was just one of those, what is going on. Like, I am not, like, this is the way back to the truck. Like, there's a whole family of it. them down here like they're just waiting for us like but uh jim was he was in the back and he kind of

comes around the around the um the corner um and he sees what we're talking and he's like figure it like took a second and then he was like oh those are just houses on the other side of the mountain that we're like oh thank god like i was not ready to walk into like 10 big foot at that point like But it was the other part with that was yeah, like we realized those were houses and you kind of know because it's like there's different colored lights. But I always said before I went back on the next on the Wednesday and I went up the trail and I was trying to find houses like from where we were at. I had to go a good mile, mile and a half past where we thought we saw the eye shine, eye glow. And I found the house like it was up on the side. You know, it was tucked back in.

And, you know, there were only a couple houses like way up. But they weren't really in that general direction. and they would have been more off to the right if we would have been seeing the houses at night. Yeah, it was going back in the daytime to total different experience because it doesn't feel as closed in. And it doesn't feel the walls down the side or didn't seem as steep and stuff, but it was still enclosed and, you know, just kind of, kind of re-judging distances. and stuff like that, but I'm like, this is, you know, this is where we had the smell. This is where we stopped.

And I saw the shadow. This is where we stopped and turned around and we saw whatever that was on the trail. And, yeah, it was, I don't know, in my mind, I felt better about going back there during the day. One part that Todd forgot was, it's all. about timing and I'm not lying. I'm the real life Charlie Brown or something's going to happen. It will happen to me. I got so nervous, I had to take a bathroom break and so did Jim. And Jim made a comment at that time said, wow, you know, with the things going tonight, it'd be surprising if, if I think it was Jim that said that, it'd be surprising if you're going to take your bathroom

break and look up and there's a pig foot. And I was like, oh, please no, there's bushes right above me. So I'm just starting and I hear scream no way, no freaking way. Just at the exact moment in the canyon we had stopped, you could see the canopy of the sky for just a little bit above us. And she goes, what in the freak is that? And Todd looked up and was like, what is that? And they saw Star Lake. There was just a little part of open trees there that they could see the, but the way the day was going on you know like k said i wouldn't be surprised if it was a UFO but going down when we ran into those those cabins with the lights she panicked she was like they're surrounding us and i was like oh my gosh just let me get out of this place i will never go back here again we get back to the

truck and jim goes are you guys done for the night and everyone all of us were like nope i said jim i will never go back to that spot ever again but let's go if you got another spot so he takes us to this creepiest spot. I would tell you the name because I can't even remember what it was. Todd Mike. But it has grass and bushes and trees so thick. If I took two steps off that main, that dirt road there, you would not see me. I could grab people as they were walking by.

And Jim brought up that they had some issues with. Somebody was, had kidnapped some kids or something up in that area. And just as he said it, we ran. into this white creepy band on the right side. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. So we go up and he goes, let's just sit here and listen. He said, because a lot of times people, I've been up here with my researcher and we'll hear whoops and see some eye glow. No sooner did he say that than we've seen two red eyes and then another set of red eyes and we heard whoop. I was like, no way. We just heard our first whoop from a big foot ever. Everybody was like,

Whoa, that's so cool. And it turned out there was some teenage or young kids that was Bigfoot hunting, had red lights on and came. That kind of tore Jim off. So he decided to leave. And I'll let Todd. Oh, he ran into some freaky guy that spotlight us. But as we left, we stopped. And again, there's a meteor shower right above us.

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and Mmm. We get off this road. Tell her, everybody goodbye, start to head back. Somebody comes up on me and Todd real fast, real fast with their lights flash. And I was like, oh, maybe that's Jim. Maybe we left something and Todd turned around. It was like, it's not Jim. Don't stop. They're flashing me and right on my rear, right on my rear.

We're going around these canyon walls. I was like, this is going to be the time that some deer, bear, or big foot is going to run right in front of me. I'm going to have to slam on my break in this yo, yo, behind me will hit me in the rear. That happened for about 20 minutes. We turned, what was that east? Todd on to, is that 85 to 85? We turned east. They went the other way. Thank God. But I was, I could not be for that night to be over. I went home and I was calculating in my head. There's no way this happened. This had to be that. This had to be this. I wanted to talk to Todd and he was tired from the event. So all night, I'm just calculating and

listen at every sound. Todd, did you want to tell them about the, whatever that spooky person was with the spotlight? Oh, yeah, when we were coming back down from, we were parked at a trailhead. And it was a decent-sized parking area. You know, it wasn't just off, you know,

a couple cars on the side of the road. But we were coming back down and, you know, after talking about, like, how kind of creepy it was and seeing, like, the kidnapper van and stuff on the way up, there's a house on the left. And Jim was driving in his truck, and, you know, it was just a normal pickup truck. It's not like we had, like, off-road lights or he didn't even have his high beams on. And, like, there's his house on the side up on the hill, and they're, like, see their lights were on.

And they start, like, spotlighting us. And we're like, what's that all about? You know, we weren't going fast. We were making noise, you know, other than the engine, basically. the sound of driving on the rocks. But, you know, it was weird. And then, yeah, we did our, we got back to where we, where we all parked on the side of the road.

You know, Jim, Jim went home and we talked to B and K a little bit and saw the meteor shower. They were, they were staying, they were camping in a tent. And we were like, have fun with that. Like, we got a cabin. Like, at least we have some, solid walls. But yeah, driving out that road going back to 285 and that car came up, it was one of those

like out of nowhere. And yet with them flashing their lights and everything, I was like, this isn't cool at all. And I just, yeah, I just told Mike, don't stop. Don't let them. Don't pull over. Like, it seems like a bad situation. But yeah, we got out to 285 and I was like, there's a gas station. out there.

You know, if we got to pull over, that's where we pull over. And at least, like, someone will, you know, be a witness to whatever might happen. But, you know, it was just a weird, weird way to kind of end the night. And then, yeah, we went, we went back to the cabin we were staying at. And it was like, obviously had an adrenaline spike along the way. I know I had one whenever we were sitting in the truck. and we heard we saw the red lights and then we heard the whoop and it was like they're here too like it was like this like huge thrill but like we're sitting there like in the dark like almost waiting for like this big foot to like come like shake the truck or slap the truck or something at that point from you know other people's stories but yeah there was it was like four or five college kids I'm guessing that were coming down, but they had these weird red lights that were kind of like,

they looked like lasers in that as they were, like, we saw like just a red light, and then as they got closer, you could see it like it was like a laser kind of thing. But we kind of, I don't know, kind of wrote that off as they were out, well, they were either just out drinking, making noise, but they were probably out like trying to find Bigfoot too. It's being being loud about it and all that, but it was, it was, it was super disappointing at that point because you're like, this is it or this is like, this is the next step. And it wasn't anything. But, but yeah, finding out like, yeah, Jim was not happy about that. And, well, the funny part was, was we were sitting there with the lights out and everything.

and we sat there for a few minutes, not making the noise, and then all of a sudden he just like, turns his lights on, turns the engine on, and the kids, the people, they're,

you know, 20 feet away from us at that point, they just freaked out, like, oh my God, there's people there. Like, so we at least got the,

we got them back a little, if nothing else. Yeah, that night, my nerves would have been shot along with you guys. There's a few things you said where, I just don't have any explanation for them. One, the blob you saw going along the tree branches and then the shimmer as well.

It kind of reminds me of some sightings people have had where it may be kind of a predator effect, or then you have, have you guys heard the Adam Davies account from Southern Oregon? no it's an old one well maybe about 10 15 years ago and seeing the portal in the woods somewhere in Oregon and but they actually saw things come out of it um it's just weird weird weird weird weird stuff um after that night did you guys continue to have weird stuff happen back at uh your homes or is it that's kind of like a one-time deal for you guys are you ready for this jeremiah yeah so i get home and i tell todd um i have so i have an alarm system in my house you know it's uh blink basically why i have it it's cameras there's one in my room there's

one in the living room the dining room downstairs and i have some outside it's because My mom has dementia. So when we're away from the house, I want to make sure my mom's fine and hasn't fallen. Or she's wandered outside a couple of times. So I have to call the neighbors if she's doing stuff. We try not to keep her at home alone because it's bad news when we do. So I have cameras on my house. I don't activate the inside ones ever because we're here and they'll go off all the time with our cats.

I go back to work and I tell Todd, I was like, I said Todd a picture. I was like, you got to see this. This is the craziest thing. My camera in my bedroom time lapsed. It wasn't on, but it time lapsed and showed me moving to the bed, moving in the bed. So I wasn't sleeping good, but I was moving, moving, moving around. And then there's a photo that's right at the very end. It looks like, so I have my window.

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Sizzle, pork, and, mm. To the right, I keep that window up about, well, the shade, I keep it up about two feet so the cat could look out. If I don't, she tears up my blinds. This picture, the best way I could describe it is, it looks like a spotlight in the window, bright light. And it looks like there is Christmas garland wrapped around my camera. That's about the best way I could describe it. I sent it to Todd and Todd showed his wife and his wife was like, Like Mike needs to burn sage around his house now.

After that, weird things has been happening. You know, and you hear the hitchhiker effect, and I'm telling people, be careful doing things. It's kind of spooked me, but weird things have been happening around the house. My mom thought she saw some big dude looking in the back. We have a back. She's been sleeping on the couch. And I don't know how, I don't know if it's the dementia or if it's actually her, but she said somebody big was looking in the back.

I have a back door and it's almost all glass staring at her. She screamed. I got up, went running, flipped on the light. I didn't see anything. I couldn't find anything. But she wouldn't sleep unless I put a blanket to cover that door. So I did. There's a blanket up there now.

But the last, it's weird. The last couple of days before we called you, I, the lady in the Sasquatch outpost told me said sometimes there's a hitchhiker effect. sometimes they'll follow you home. And me and Todd gave me an interview with somebody in Denver where Dogman followed him home on an incident. And I told Todd, we ever run into Dogman? It's our last time going out.

I don't want anything to do with that stuff. But I put in rocks outside my window here, my bathroom window, H.I. Just hi. I was like, she said sometimes things happen around your house and you don't notice it. So with the weird things that's been going on, the rocks were moved, not into a word, which again, we have snakes, some bull snakes around here. Maybe they move the rocks. And I will find these white rocks around the house.

It's just weird. We don't have any, like, it almost looks like crystal. The last three days, it sounded like a helicopter. I got a message from my neighbor that said, did you hear the helicopter going over the house? the other night said it i looked out the window i said yeah i heard it sound like it was right on my roof it was so loud our neighbor tom looked down and said there was no lights on it i could see it he said uh i could make the outline because of the moon but he said there was no lights on it and it was so loud i jeremiah it sounded like it was right on top

the night after that we heard it again but it wasn't as loud last night i haven't even told Todd this. I haven't talked to him, but it's starting to warm up a little bit. So I have my bathroom window open just cracked, about five, six inches on the cat can get in there. I usually don't. It freaks me out. That back part of the back door, it just makes, it freaks me out. Although I do have my window open on the right side. I leave that, but that wind, the bathroom just freaks me out for some reason. But I lay in here, I hear a whistle. I swear to God, it was like, and I jumped up immediately, I was just getting ready to go to sleep. I hadn't yet.

I just put my cell phone down. Jumped up because I was like, oh, crap. Something's happened to my mom. Run out there. My mom and dad are both sleep. I'm back in here and I was like, oh, no. I ran to the bathroom and lowered the window without looking out of it and locked it. I was like, nope.

If there's something around here, I am not engaging. I don't want anything here. But it's just been weird things going around like, and I can't, I'm having some health issue, so I'm not sleeping in my bed. right now and when I I've got a recliner right by my bed and that's what I've been sleeping in my bed I it's almost I have it's it's it's a fear and I don't know what it is but something doesn't want me to lay in the bed so I come over here the other day I tried to get in my bed and 20 minutes later I was like nope coming back to the chair I don't know what if it's just

nerves or what but there's something is going on around here it's weird but I want to I won't go back to that place at all. And I told Todd, I wonder if Kay transferred some kind of energy to me or something. And I don't know. I don't know what happened, but I had the worst night of my life when we went to there. And I, and Jim has asked me, are you guys coming up this year? And I was like, no, no, I can't do it. I've had some health.

Oh, and I heard one of your shows, I think it was your show about a detached redna. three months ago I have a detached retina and two horseshoe. So I have a horseshoe tear. I see a bright light in my eye. Go to the eye doctor. Said it's in my right eye. I seen a bright light. It hurt.

And he was like, no, right eye likes good. Month later, I go in there for my follow-ups year, whatever it is. He looks at my left eye and was like, can I dilate it? And I said, no, I got to go back to work. I can't. And he said, well, there's this test. Your insurance won't pay for it. But I want to see there's something wrong with that eye.

And I said, sure. Comes back and said, it's emergency, but not right now. But we got to get you down to Colorado because you got a horseshoe tear. I was like, okay. A couple days later, go down to Greeley. The surgeon goes, I can't do it here. We're going to have to send you to Longmont at a bigger facility because your eye detached, your retina detached. The next day, I go down there and he was like, you got two horseshoe tears. And I said, how is what happened? What am I doing? and he said trauma to your eye. I was like, there's no trauma to my eye. And he said, well, it could be because you're getting up in age. And I was like, two horseshoe tears and a detached retina. I was like, you can't give any other answers.

And we don't know. It's rare. He said it's very rare. And he tells me after they put this little nitrogen oxide bubble in my eye for the detached retina, you will have to have surgery in the next couple of months for, cataract. Go to my eye doctor. I've been going to him for the last every two weeks. And he was like, huh, where's your cataract? And I was like, what do you mean? He said, well, there should be a cataract. You should be having a cataract from that surgery. He said, 98.2% of the population has that within

two, three months. And I was like, Charlie Brown effect, I'm on the other side of the bell curve all the time. So knock on wood, no cataract, but it's just one weird thing after another. And my health is kind of I'm having health issues now with my lungs and hearts. So I had to get this story out before, you know, who knows? Because, you know, only God knows when we're going to go. Mike, I'm sorry to hear that you're having those health issues. And I hope that's able to turn around, man. Thank you. Wow. I, there's one more thing I want to say real quick. I my friend Bob that was in you know always fishing with me had these things that happened up there by crystal and granite curt gouty state park and up in the medicine bow national

forest of snowy range area up at lake owing he was a skeptic you know and he would always laugh my mom would watch finding bigfoot and i was like younger i was like bigfoot was definitely you know caveman now there's it can't be can't be anything but some kind of to me it It's got to be some kind of interdimensional being, you know, person. There's no way it's a cave man or gorilla. No way. There's just too many weird things with it. But he used to hunt up there by Lake O'N as a crow flies, probably five miles up by,

it's up by Battle Mountain and the continental divide up in that area. And he would go up with about 10 or 12 people. I'd go up. I wasn't a hunter, but I would go and eat the food and fish. I would take off and fish away from them. And he would meet me a lot of times at Lake owner Rob Roy and Fish. One time, he gets up at 3.30 in the morning, Jeremiah, and we'll walk for two hours, get into a tree stand and hunt all day.

The rest of the group liked to roadkill, you know, road hunt. So he wasn't into that. But one time, something happened. And his story was it something came in. He doesn't know how. And, you know, this guy's a great hunter. something snuck up on him, circled a tree around where he was at, took a big, stinky crap, and then left.

He was shaken, and he would tell me something, and I was like, what is it, a squirrel? And my dad started laughing. He goes, no. And I was like, a bear. No. I was like, how big is it? He goes, I don't know. He never wanted to tell me, and we made fun of him because he was just one of those friends,

you know, that it was, you have somebody in the group that always something happens to them that's funny. and I love this guy dearly. He passed away three years ago with COVID, but he had told it broke my heart. I'm probably going to hope I don't cry on this, but he broke my heart. He told somebody that he thinks he had a Sasquatch sighting or something similar to that. He wasn't sure what it was. It scared him so bad. He wouldn't, he gave up that tree standing.

He wouldn't walk back there anymore. He rode hunt with his nephew and brother-in-law and stuff. And hearing that, I just want to plead everybody. You don't make fun of people, you know, and it's easy to mock people until you have that. But it broke my heart when I was at his funeral, and knowing that he couldn't tell me stuff like that because we were laughing about it.

I knew it was going to get me emotional. I miss you, buddy. Thank you for sharing that. I know that was hard. hard to share, Mike. It was. I miss him. I'm sorry,

Jeremiah. You're good, you're good, man. It gets me hearing about it, and I've heard it before from you. And I never met the guy. And I'm like, I totally understand how

you feel about that. Yeah. I wish I could talk to him now about it. But, you know, it's just, I was telling Todd, I got to get this out in case something to happen. Nobody would know about, you know, these things.

And you just got to be careful. You could bring stuff home. I've just had some weird stuff here. And I haven't seen anything. And I haven't. That whistle last night was just crazy. I was like, there's no way. I'm going to come on this show.

It's like, you know, it's, it's just like things happen, you know, where some of your guests get blurred out. It's, it's just like certain things, you know, it's just weird. You just can't explain. it. It's extremely weird. I didn't catch that the first thing. You're saying the whistle happened last night. Last night. And it came from my bathroom window. I had to because I thought it was my mom. I ran because she's in the living room. You know, I'm in this recliner chair and I got up and ran to her and they were both out. And I came in and was like, nope, no, no,

went right to the bathroom, put my hand into the curtain. I was like, God, something, don't grab my hand and I put that window down and I was like, nope, not going to respond, not going to do anything. But it's just, it's weird. And you know what? And I live in a rour, rural area of Cheyenne. There's there's no trees for this. I'm out here and there's nothing. I mean, you get to these houses, there's trees, but there's nothing around here. I mean, you'd have to, there's no way. Something can come, you know, from, it's like 45 minutes away to get up into the tree area to come down to the planes here and not be seen, you know, just like that thing at the casino in Oklahoma. It's, it's just weird. There's got to be more than they're just run into places.

Oh, and again, Jeremiah, I'll end on a funny note. So my little wish, you know, to, if Bigfoot was real, to throw a rock at Todd. Right. Todd, do you want to tell him what happened to you? Yeah. I was willing to Mike. I'm going to add that. So I thought of something that I completely forgot about on our night hike and this like on our way out, somewhere between the whole Starlink thing and the sounds or whatever, there was a helicopter flying at night.

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And then I, I rolled that out, sort of. But going back that Wednesday, you know, it was in the afternoon. And, you know, from the spot, I figured we were at and looking at the trail map and the map of Colorado, that helicopter was heading towards Denver. So it could have been like a lifelight helicopter or something like that. But it was just a weird coincidence. But it gets weirder because on that Wednesday, one of the cargo helicopters,

the double rotor helicopter, the military ones, was flying basically the same path when I was leaving on my hike. and it was like, that's really strange because there's not really a military base where it came from. Where is it going to? What are they doing?

And I was like, it's just a weird coincidence. It's just the weird coincidence. But like, you know, you don't generally get helicopters flying out in the mountains in Colorado. You know, I'm like, unless that's like a, maybe it's a flight path kind of thing. but I totally forgot about that whole helicopter thing too and to the weirdness of the night. And then, yeah, Mike's saying about the asking to throw something at me, you know,

and he didn't tell me that at the time. He tells me after the fact. But let me see. So last year, last May in 2024. go go up with my family to Bailey. I had back surgery on May 7th, and this was on the 19th. So technically I had no business being out in the mountains in the woods, but I felt really good.

And it was kind of a just, we went to a, it's dispersed camping, but we were just going for the day, you know, having a, having a fire sitting around, you know, just having a kind of chill day with, with the family. So where we were at, there's a giant boulder. And you kind of pull around it. The other side of the road is a hillside that goes up and there's rocks. So I figured it was a good place for me kids to kind of explore and do whatever.

Keep them occupied. And didn't have my oldest there. but my middle child son he's not ruined the Bigfoot and he told me he doesn't believe in Bigfoot but we found a nice nice branch and we were doing some tree knocks

and he starts hitting this boulder and it makes it was like the best tree knock like resident sound that I could hear he was doing that a few times there's nobody around us.

There was like some firewood the next site down. We, we gathered that, so we had a little extra wood. But, you know, we did our thing. We cooked dinner and stuff. And it was getting towards evening and then started cleaning up. And I couldn't do that much. But I was just like kind of organizing things to be like, hey, you know, put this in the car next and, you know, do that. kind of directing more than anything.

Well, like I would be, like, if I was, I don't know which direction compass-wise I was facing, but we had a little folding table and we have a, we have a, had a Yukon. And it was maybe 15 feet to my left. My son's like putting stuff in the back.

My wife's behind me. and all of a sudden I catch out of my peripheral something flying from over the Yukon and like kind of straight line you know like you would you would throw a baseball you're not like throwing it up high blobbing it it was thrown um it almost hit me in the calf and it was thrown hard enough that I could feel the air. Like, it was close. And it was moving pretty good. Well, I saw what it was.

It was a pine cone. And the pine cones there were pretty big. It was probably like the size of the palm of your hands, maybe like tennis ball size. And I saw it, like, hit the ground and, you know, skip across the ground. And immediately I was, Like, not cool guys.

You know, I just just had surgery. Like, like, I don't need to be hit with something. I don't need to be hit with something that hard. Like, that would have hit me. It would have hurt. And I'm sure I would have, like, jumped or, like, thumbled or whatever. Like, it would have, wouldn't have been a good situation. And they denied it.

And I didn't believe them for the longest time. But the longer I got, I'm like, why would they do that to me? But they weren't in the right position for to follow the line where it came from. It came from across the road and up the hill. So, you know, we all kind of just were staring across the road. Like, what's over there? You know, where would it have came from? It definitely didn't fall.

Like, my wife said she saw it out of the corner of her eye, too. you know, and, like, actually, well, stupid me, well, I was like, I got to see if there's something up there. So I go with my son, we go up the hill. And I'm, like, trying to, like, get out of him like he did it. But he was like, I didn't do it. You know, why would I do that? But, you know, we went up and, you know, couldn't see anything or, you know, nothing seemed out of place or, you know, different from earlier because we went up there earlier. but off in the distance, back the road where we came from,

there was this like loud, angry, something's yelling angry. And it was like, I don't know what that is. But if that's what through the pine cone, excuse me, that's, I don't want to see it. But, and I kick myself too because I'm like, I wish we would have stayed to see what it was. But I'm glad we didn't stay because maybe we didn't you know if it's throwing stuff it it wants us gone Um and I kind of think that's what it was you know it was getting later man wasn't getting it wasn't dark

But it was early evening and um it was just it was just a weird thing but then I tell mike about this Like you'll never believe what happened to me and he's like yeah um that our night hike I ask them to throw a pine cone at you. And it's like, so where we were on the pine cone incident. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about. Yep, that's Addy. Good things do come in small packages.

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I'm not sure straight line distance. Driving-wise, it would take a while because it's roundabout how you get there. But, you know, it was a... It's fairly close. I was, you know, basically, whatever, eight, nine months from our night hike, it would have to go a mile a month, you know. It's not unreasonable. And there's a lot of stories of stuff that way, too.

And then, so smart me. We go back, like literally the next week. and that spot was taken. So we went to a, went farther down the road and found another spot. And nothing really happened there. I went for a little walk and I found a tree that was bent and the tip was like in the dirt. So it was like fully bent over.

And then again, it was a, it's a camping spot that we were just using during the day. But there was one of the. those like rubber, yellow rubber balls that you get them at Walmart that inflate. That was like away from the camping area that seemed like it didn't just like roll down the hill kind of thing. But it was like, oh, that's kind of weird. And we actually, I gave it to my daughter to kind of keep her occupied and we brought it home.

And I joked with her that we took. maybe we took big foot ball and they're going to want it back. And she said that we should probably give it back. And then the next thing that I did was we went back to that same road further down, went camping last August with my son. And we went up on a Friday and we got set up and everything. I put out a recorder before he went to bed. And I woke up in the middle of the night, like people yelling.

And it really freaked me out. It sounded like three or four people moving from my, well, it would be from my right to left if I was facing them. And I immediately thought, it sounds like like Indians going on in. attack or something like the way it was yelling like the noise and it was moving like running through the woods and it was weird but i was like i don't know how i just went i fell back asleep but i was like super excited like i'm going to have that on recording go listen to that tomorrow get up the next day recorder didn't work at all um the next day there we had her dog too um that there were a whole bunch of turkeys in the morning and dog was chasing them around and in the evening there were like four deer that came across on the road and um dog let us know there was something there but the deer wouldn't go away like we got up we walked towards them i was like kicking the dirt road they just were like whatever um so i thought thought that was weird um you know we we decided to call it and i had about ten

o'clock. And the whole time, there were people near us. You could hear voices, but you couldn't make out what they were saying. You just knew there were people. But I had set out my recorder, made sure it was on. And, you know, we went to bed. It wasn't hearing anything. Like, people around us weren't doing whoops or tree knocks or anything the whole time. But, oh, I wake up at some point in the night, and I hear we had my dog bowls. They're the stainless bowls. I have one for water, one for food. But we didn't have food or in them or anything, but I'm sure the smell was still there.

But I woke up to something messing with those bowls. Like it sounded like it was picking the little. up and setting them down, picking them up, setting them down. And I'm thinking, it's a bear. And it could be a big foot. But I smacked the side of the tent, thinking it's going to scare whatever off. And the sound got, like, more aggressive, like picking it up, setting it down. I do a, hey, like, out.

pretty loud. And you hear it again. Like, do I really have to go out there? And I'm like, I'm not going out there because it's unzipped the, the door to the tent, unzipped the fly, you know, well, turn around, zip the door to the tent, unzipped the fly. You know, they keep the dog inside and everything. And I'm like, I'm not turning my back to whatever that is. You know, I wasn't hearing anything but the bowls. you know, didn't hear anything or run away or anything.

But, you know, again, I'm like, I don't know if I really want to go out and see that. But my dog didn't make a sound the whole time. And he, like, at home, he barks at everything. So I was like, like, there's no, no early warning from him either. I fell asleep pretty quick after that. And it woke my, I woke my, I woke my son. sun up with my smack in the tent and my hay. And he's like, do you hear in that?

I'm like, yeah, I'm hearing that. What do you think I'm making noise for? But got up the next day, you know, super excited to go out in the daytime, see what it was. There were raccoon prints, like dusty ratcoon prints on the table. Like it was standing on his back legs, putting its paws on there. So I assume that's what it was. but you know get the recorder out and I'm really bad with like listening by recorder and like getting it done so it's been kind of recent and I thought it was like three o'clock in the morning that the bowl thing was going on

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It sounds like an African lion. And I had Mike listen to it at work the one time, and his brother listened to it. I've had a couple people listen to it, and they're like, yeah, that's what it sounds like. I'm like, if it was a bear, it was awfully close. and this roar happens just a few minutes before the dog bowls start making noise. And honestly, I've been kind of afraid to listen to the rest of it because I'm afraid that I'm going to hear the rest of it and hear raccoons outside the tent. at some point, like, they came later and we just didn't hear them. And the other thing was people that we could see and hear mostly Sunday morning,

they packed up and were gone like super early before we got up. Like it was one of those, like we got up for breakfast and I was like, oh, when did they leave? It didn't even really hear them. So I thought it was weird. Um, yeah, I, I have my recorder and I'm like, I got to listen to it. But again, I'm a little bit afraid of what might be on there. If I, if I'm sure I'm going to tell myself, it was, there's just raccoons and I was kind of chocking it up.

There's a, well, there's a bear outside or maybe a big foot, but it was, you know, it's just weird. that it was making the noise like that the way it was you know on the table picking them up and sitting them down you know and it's one of those six-foot plastic folding tables so it's it's a good three feet to the surface so where the bowls were so it would have had to have been a pretty good raccoon a good-sized raccoon to get up there but um I was just, it was just a weird, weird night. And again, it's all in the same area. So, I mean, literally, like, fine comb thing was maybe a mile from the second place. And then maybe in, maybe not even a mile where we went camping. So it's, you know, walkable.

So it's the same general area. It seems like a, there's not many, there's not houses. There's maybe, there's a few cabins here and there, but there's not, it's more just a forest road with some of the Spurs camping. And no further down the road, there's some, there's some trails, I know the Colorado, trails kind of near there too. But again, it's not a heavily used area, too. Gotcha.

It's interesting how the both of you are being affected and having different types of things happen after that situation that you were both present for. It is very, very, very interesting. Yeah.

Sorry. One of the things I think is weird was the three people that saw the blurry portal thing were the three people that heard stuff later. And we all had, like, we all have a, we're standing in a different spot. And we all had our little different perspective on the portal thing. And we all heard a little bit different things at the same time. And it wasn't, it wasn't one of those like, oh, yeah, I see it. It was like, this is what I'm seeing and this is what I heard. And, you know, it wasn't just like somebody is just agreeing to fit in or, you know, that kind of thing.

It was, no, this is what I'm seeing and hearing and what I'm experiencing. absolutely it'd be interesting to to find out if B and K also had strange things happen after the night experience with you guys but I guarantee it K did

okay gotcha yeah yeah oh Jeremiah they have so B and K have some land out there in Montrose and they've got game cameras set up two weird things on there. They showed me and Todd. One was, they call him the naked jogger, this old guy that has a fanny pack only in his tennis shoes on,

go walking through their forest. And the second is a bobcat that's turning away from the camera, look at it something, and you see these two huge eyes. I don't think you could see the outline. They sent us me and Todd the pitcher, but Jim had actually blown that up into some kind of big poster thing, and they went and measured it. Todd wasn't it like 8 foot 8 or something where those eyes were?

He went back into that area and put himself where you can almost see the outline, not quite. You can definitely see the eyes. And you can see the outline of the head a little bit. It's like the eyes are reflecting the camera. or they're glowing. I think I'm sure it's probably reflection off the light. But that Bobcat is staring that thing down. The camera going off did not even phase it. Yeah, I was saying what that was, uh, I, well, he said about there's not, I think this,

what he said, there's not like a branch or anything for like an owl just to be sitting there. And the eyes are too far apart. And the, yeah, the eyes are far apart. But, um, Just looking at it, like my, my thought was, I bet if that was that the eyes are a big foot, if that's what that is. It's, it, maybe it knew where it wasn't going to set off the camera. And that bobcat screwed that up. Like it could be. It came from behind the camera, you know, like the camera, the camera went off and got both of them. like just out of coincidence.

But yeah, it is, I mean, it's super cool to see that. You see it from people you've never met kind of thing. And you're like, oh, you know, whatever. But when you see it from somebody you've met, you've talked to since, and you're like, man, I really think that is something. Right, right. They were supposed to come on with this. they were all for it and then we just haven't heard back from them and probably a month or so we've kept in contact.

Okay. Well, who knows? Maybe they'll hear this. You never know. And reach out. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

But guys, what an incredible account. I'm so glad that we are connected. It's just, it's an incredible story of a lot of different things happening when you look at the whole story. I hope that my things get better with your health I'll be praying for you regarding that and Todd I hope things don't get too weird

hopefully that thing thrown the pine cone thrown at you is the weirdest thing that happens but now please please keep in touch with me if things continue to happen for you guys I'd be interested to know about it.

We sure will, Jeremiah. Thank you. We appreciate it. Yeah, sure thing. Thank you. Absolutely. Well, thank you for coming on the show today, guys. It's been a pleasure. It's been our pleasure. Talk to do. We appreciate it. All right. Awesome. I'm going to go ahead and end recording. Hello. My name is Bill Mowoc.

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