Bigfoot Society - Something Was Watching Us! – 45 Years of Bigfoot in Michigan

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

What happens when two childhood friends spend decades returning to the same Michigan woods — and begin to realize they’re not the only ones out there?In this intense and unforgettable episode, we sit down with Dean and Norm, lifelong outdoorsmen from Northern Michigan who have been encountering strange activity in the Manistee National Forest for over 45 years. From their first teenage experiences of being followed through the woods to full-body sightings and hair-raising moments at their remote cabin, their stories are as raw as they are chilling.You’ll hear about encounters in places like Mesick, Interlochen, Ludington, and the infamous Harlan Swamp — including rock throws, massive footprints, tree structures, and the terrifying moment something lifted their trailer in the middle of the night.But more than just the evidence, this episode dives into what it feels like to be watched in the dark... to know you’re not alone... and to keep going back anyway.This isn’t just about Bigfoot. It’s about belief, friendship, and the deep mysteries hiding in Michigan’s wild places.🎉 Sasquatch Summerfest 2025Mark your calendars! Sasquatch Summerfest is happening July 11–12, 2025, and it’s going to be epic.Special Offer for Listeners:Get a 2-day ticket for the price of 1 using code BFS (like Bigfoot Society) at checkout.Big thanks to Priscilla for hooking us up!👉 Grab your tickets now at: www.sasquatchsummerfest.com🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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who spent over 45 years hunting, fishing, and living deep in the woods of northern Michigan. From the back roads of MISIC to the shadows of the Manistee National Forest, something has been following them, watching them, sometimes even showing itself. Tree knocks, rocks thrown with impossible accuracy, faces at cabin windows under a full moon, and a creature so massive, one witness ran barefoot through the forest to escape it, leaving his gear behind. This isn't a campfire tale.

It's not a story passed down through generations. These are the firsthand experiences of Dean and Norm, and they say Bigfoot let them see what it didn't want others to. This is the Michigan episode. So stay with us. Right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Dean and Norm today. They are from out there in the great state in Michigan, and they've got a lot of really interesting things to cover.

We'll be going from Northern Michigan, Manistee National Forest. us down to southern Michigan. We're going to be going all over the place for this one. So Dean and Norm, welcome to the show, guys. How's it going? Yeah, pretty good. Thanks. Thanks for having us. Absolutely. So, guys, I know that you've got, we've got a lot of ground to cover with this one. So I'm going to go ahead and feel free to, you know, start sharing from here. But if possible, you know, we want to make sure that we're not talking over each.

other as well. So I'll let you go ahead and take it from here, guys. All right. I'll go first. I'll start from when, I'll save the best ones for last because, but they're all pretty good. First time I started having anything happen, I was 14 years old. I used to ride dirt bikes. And Norm and I grew up together. And, you know, we're both like in our, you know, early 60s, not early, but mid, you know, like 65. So when I was younger, I used to drive over to his house on my dirt bike, and I'd have to go through woods. And it was a really thin trail, but I'd swear something was running behind me.

I could hear it like real heavy thudden. And back then, I didn't have a clue what a big foot was. Or, you know, I just knew something was out there. I thought maybe somebody's horse or somebody was riding a horse behind me or didn't have any idea. So a little while later, you know, we saw the people. Patterson Gimblin film and I'm like, you know, that's, that kind of makes sense. I never, in a million years, never thought I'd, you know, see one.

And so Norm and I, you know, later on, we started hunting together. He had a cabin up here up north and interlocking, and we'd go there almost every weekend, you know, when we got to where we could drive and we'd come up there. And if we weren't hunting, we were fishing, you know, stream brookie fishing. And we started hearing all this noise and stuff. We were kind of aware of what a Bigfoot was then, but we didn't relate the noises we were hearing the Bigfoot. He kept telling me that it was a porcupine screaming.

And we thought guys were out in the woods chopping wood. And I'm looking at Norman. I told him, I goes, it's going to take that guy forever to chop that wood because you can only hear it hit once in a while, which was them banging on trees. and I have my own conclusions about that after dealing with, you know, with the bigfoots for all those years. When they're banging on trees, that's a warning.

You know, you see these guys on these Bigfoot programs. First thing they do is go out and bang on trees and start that infernal yelling. And all that is, you know, they might get a hit once. That's a warning. That's telling the other bigfoot's in the area that there's huge. humans in the wood. And you won't get any responses after that. They get might you might hear a bang out of tree once and after that they are gone. And if a big foot lets you see him, it's because he wants you to see him because you're not seeing the other ones behind you or on the side of you sneaking up on you. If you want to see big foots, don't look for them. You'll never find them if you're going to look for them. You sit there by campfire almost every time we've had an experience, when we've been sitting, quiet. Don't go in there making any noise,

all that infernal yelling and banging on trees. You're not going to do anything, but scare them out of there. And if you want to keep them away from your house, if you're having a problem, put up trail cameras. They smell the batteries. And I told this to us on a typical Bigfoot show

that you watch on TV. Anyways, I told them they smell the batteries they can see infrared. And a lot of people when they're putting a trail camera, they don't even think about the human scent that's on the camera. These things can smell. If you want to get a picture on a trail cam, you need to put it on the ground facing up or high up in a tree facing down.

Because we've got a video of one. We only got his arm because he was aware the camera was there. And he wouldn't show himself to that. Anyway, getting on from there. I came up here with my ex-wife, and we were by the window in the cabin. There was a, you know, they had several bedrooms in there, and we were by one, and the window was right over our head. Big window.

Yeah, big window. And it was full moon that night. And all of a sudden, it got really dark. I mean, real dark. I couldn't see anything out of the window. I'm like, you're talking about three feet away from my face. And all of a sudden, it bent down and looked in the window. And I'm telling you that face, no one's going to tell me that these things have any humans because they're not human at all.

They're a great ape, period. The great apes have 24 chromosomes. They have two sets of chromosomes. Human beings have 23. They have two that are fused. but I'm not a Darwinism. I'm a creationist. And they are just totally different.

And the people that say they're seeing dogmen, I believe they're mistaken. I believe that they got them confused with something that's called dynopithecus, which is like gigapithecus, the dynopithecus is like the baboon version. And I've noticed that just through the years doing a bunch of different research

that some big foots have actually the thumb that comes out like a gorilla on the foot. Some of them have tails. Some of them don't. They can exhibit all the signs of the other great apes, you know, because I'm into the scientific end of it. They don't have any magical powers. These things move so fast, you know, and they are always underestimating the weight. You're talking 1,200, you know, some of them 1,200 pounds, you know, yeah, sure, there's younger ones.

And they don't weigh as much, but their weights are always way off, you know. You get something that's seven, eight feet tall. It's going to be anywhere from 800 to maybe a little over 1,000 pounds, but it's not going to be under that, depending on how tall it is. Anyways, when that big foot looks in the window, I didn't dare wake up my wife because if that would have happened and we went home, I mean, she would have gone home, want to go home immediately. I guarantee the car wouldn't even point north again.

after that. So, yeah, and through the years, I've had a lot of different experiences at the cabin. And like I said, most of the time is when you're sitting by the fire or you're playing cars in the cabin, but you're not making any noise. We've had, I'm telling you, we've had deniers. I mean, people used to laugh at Norman I about our stories we tell, you know, oh, you guys are your bigfoot, you know. Well, you know, you can't convince these people.

and we've had several people that have been up here and been to the cabin that will not come back. You know, we've invited different groups to, you know, online to come up and they're welcome to bring their analytical equipment with them. And they just won't, they won't do it. They won't come back, you know. So if you want to find a big foot, you here aren't going to do it like any of these TV shows. I guarantee you you, you're not going to find them. because they don't want you to be they don't want to be seen you're not going to see them and if if you see one it's because they allowed it um and they can hunch down and they drop so fast onto the ground they are a great ape they're not human in any way shape or form um i think a lot a lot of it is mistaken identity you get a lot of these guys that came back from vietnam and they've gotten into the woods and you know people that see these guys uh oh yeah it was a human well i think it actually was a human that they've seen, you know.

Gilly suits. Yeah, in gilly suits and just different things like that, but they don't look human at all. I mean, if you want to, the ones that I've always seen, they look exactly like gorillas in the face. Some are a little bit different. Some, you know, they have, they're just like people. They have different facial structures from specimen to specimen,

you know, they're all different, different, different, coats. And for a while there, I was thinking actually, like the snowshoe hair, we were thinking that they might turn white in the wintertime. We're not sure, but see, because you've had color phases that all these people describe, you know, blonde, white, brown, red, black, all different kinds, you know. And a lot of the ones that come up tracks, a lot of the ones that only have three toes, that's from inbreeding, you know, they don't have a large,

population when that happens, because that's a genetic defect caused by inbreeding. That or, you know, I mean, if you live outdoors all your life, I mean, a lot of things can happen, you know, they could easily lose a toe here, you know, break a foot there, you know. So, so all the bigfoot tracks, you know, we've had a lot of different experiences. And going into Cabin Road one day, we saw one going across the creek. And it was so fast, it looked like a black blow. and it's just amazing the speed these things can generate. And I believe the reason these people think that they just disappear through a porthole

is because they can drop down to the ground and be gone in seconds. And, you know, the Army crawl away really fast, real fast. Most of the time, if you're in the woods and you do see one, you know, it'll be on the ground. It'll be lower to the ground. They don't stand up a lot when people are around them. They don't stand up. they're always hiding and they get low. You know, most people's mistake they're making is they're looking straight ahead or trying to look up.

Another thing people don't do is they don't look up into the trees. These things climb like you wouldn't believe. And they go from tree to tree like quick, like lightning. It's amazing how something that weighs that much can move that fast through the trees. It's insane. And the smaller ones, they're frightening in a tree. They do some acrobatics. you don't even believe.

I mean, you know, we've seen that. And what I like is the skeptics to come up here. That's my favorite thing. I'll let Norm tell you about his, you know, all that. But I'll tell you about one of them that came up to the cabin hunting. And he was a real skeptic. You know, if we've even said big foot, he'd start laughing, you know. And the thing about it is the people that live up here, the natives,

like we live really close to a town called MISIC. and you can tell the natives from the people that are downstaters because the people from downstate laugh when you mention Bigfoot. Natives around here don't laugh. They got a name for one of them and the city of MISIC and there's a road called Morilla Road. They have a name for this Bigfoot because so many people have seen them, they call them the Marilla gorilla. It's insane. You know, I mean, there's just so much. proof. Like I said with the

dynopithecus, there's a lot of dynopithecus in the Manistee National Forest. But I also believe that the government, because there's a thing called the CRISPR machine, and it figures out genetic codes and everything way faster than we've ever been able to do before.

And yeah, I believe the government has actually done super soldier experiments, you know, to get a walking canine, you know, So I'm not crossing out the dog man thing, but I think a lot of it's a misidentification, you know, because you get an eight foot tall baboon, you know, and it's got a long muscle like that. You're going to, unless people don't even know what a baboon looks like.

So I think a lot of that's mistaken identity. And I've even seen, I've mentioned that on mine before, and the next time we get online, we see all these guys, you know, buying into that or using what we're using what we're, We told him just like Russ from Expedition X there. You know, I told him about the batteries and stuff. And then he said that, but did I get credit for it? No. Of course not.

You know? So we have hair samples. Oh, okay. Wow. We've got hair samples. We've got rocks that have been thrown that we kept. And the thing about those rocks that were thrown at Norm, he was out walking the dog, they weigh identical.

They're the same exact size. 3.5 ounces. Exactly. I'll let Norm tell you about that. I'll tell you one more thing and I'll hand it over to him. We have so many incidents. It's just, it's crazy. So anyway, I'll tell you about the hunting incident

when we had a company come up to hunt. And I'm going to tell you the man's name, but let's put it this way. He won't come back. He had one of those over-tenances. go over the back of a truck bed. Well, the first time it messed with him, he

heard it coming down the hill and it stopped over him and he could hear it breathing. Now, he had a 45 and he's still thinking it wasn't big enough. He was scared to death. Actually pissed himself. Yeah, he did. You know, he lost it as bodily functions, man.

He left the next morning. Yeah, he left the next morning and he was convinced. Well, that wasn't the... He hadn't... experience like the time before. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Eistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is Bowen-Yang from Los Culture Easters with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang.

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And he heard something run down the creek line. And it was breaking branches off. We went out there the next day and they were broke off about 10 foot up. Some of them higher. But all the way down the creek, they were just like in the line, you know. It was just insane. But there's one of the guys that won't come back up here. Two seconds.

Yeah, he said it was like two seconds. He couldn't believe it. His cousin, the real good friend of mine that I grew up with, he came up here bow hunting, and he went out there, and he heard all this, he heard it, he heard banging on the trees, and he said it was the foulest smell that he ever smelled. And he heard it tree knocking,

but he didn't get to see it. So it wasn't like it. So he was convinced, and he's had incidents here on our property here where, yeah, he's got a camper trailer. And it's on the bed of his truck, and it's pretty big. Anyways, he kept hearing a scratching on the side of the trailer. He was thinking it was a dog or a squirrel or something, but there's no 12-foot dogs around here. So the next day we went out there, and there was a big handprint, and we had pictures of that. we got a lot of pictures.

We've got pictures of trees upside, pushed upside down. We had out on this property, which looked like a grave and it had two sticks and an X. And, you know, all these guys can't figure out what those X's are. I'll tell you exactly what they are. They are property markers. They're territory markers. You know, all these people, when they get on these Bigfoot shows, we sit here and laugh because they don't know. They don't know anything in what they're talking about.

They really don't. And they're supposed to be, you know, in parentheses, the experts, you know. So I'll let you talk to Norm here. I mean, I've got, we've got so much. It's so many things, you know. We've been interacting with these things for near 45 years, you know. You know, it's just, it's insane. They're out there, you know.

Like I said, I'm not a Darwin. I don't believe in the Darwinism. I do believe in creationalism. These things are not human. Like I said, the chromosome, a lot of time when you see these people on the DNA, they tell you, yeah, they, oh, it's got all the genetic markers is human. Well, of course it does, but it has also one extra set of chromosomes. Humans have 23 sets, I mean 23 sets of chromosomes, which will give you 46.

apes have one more. It gives you 48 for them. You know, they have an extra step. But we have one, one, two chromosomes that are fused. It makes us human. So it's real close, very close. And, you know, and if you get the wrong reading in the lab, it could easily come up, you know, human, easily. But they always say there's that one extra thing in there.

If you ever listen to these guys when they're giving you a DNA analysis, there's always that one extra thing that doesn't make them quite human. So I'll let Norm tell you about some. Here's experiences. We, like I said, we have so many things that have happened to us over the years, you know. Knocking on windows,

we've had them in this trailer where we live, knocked our porch light off. They hate lights. They don't like lights. You didn't knock it off. You let the whole trailer have dropped it. Well, I didn't tell them about that. Well, I didn't tell them about that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was, that was, we call him the murder monkey. Well, anyway, where should I start? I want to tell you about my first incident I've ever, you know, had. I was hunting in Lenington. I had a girlfriend at that time. I had a big friend. He was like 6'4 and had his girlfriend there.

I'm not going to say his name. we're up there hunting and was going to be there you know for a week or so whatever where the first day out and went out hunting and stuff and i found i found this open field but all these little uh popple trees all the way around it real little ones because they cut it out you know and they started growing back but they were pretty good size open field there and i'm well anyway by the cabin where we were that it's not a cabin it's like like a house, I call it a house cabin, whatever. They had a pond right there too.

So they had water around the area. And I'm like, okay, so I'm sitting out there, I've seen a big buck rub. And I'm sitting there and all of a sudden I hear the deer snorting. And here they come running out of them. It's pretty thick in there. You can't, how they see anything. They come running across this open field and I'm talking 25 to 50 deer all at one time. It was a herd of them.

I'm thinking myself, what in the heck is going on? Something scary these deer, you know? So I said, well, my hunting is done. So I get up and walk back to the cabin, and I told them about it. When the next morning, we got up and we walked, you know, through these pine trees off to the left of the, it would be the east side of the cabin. There's these pine trees, and you come to these popple trees, but they're real bigger. They're bigger, you know, a little bit farther apart.

They're not real, real far apart. Still kind of thick in there, but they're six inches round, whatever. And they're just, you know, we'd walk them through there, and then Marilyn goes, what the heck, look at? And there were these three scratch marks on a popple tree. And it's pretty good size. But the scratch marks, there were three indentations in there, and they were thick.

They were round, you know, really bigger than a human finger. And then too big to be a bear, but they were 12 foot high. And I'm thinking, wow, that's weird. You know, I don't know what could have done that. I said,

I'll tell you what, I'm going to look around here a little bit. I'm going to hunt in this area tonight, and I'm going to see, you know, what's going on. So I, they go back and stuff, and they went,

Maryland and Bob went hunting over the wrong side of the pond over there, and I went through them pines, and I found this where these pop trees were. And there was like a path there. It was probably, oh, I'd say four foot and almost five foot wide opening all the way up. And I could see up a hill. And then there was two big red pines there. And I mean big ones. I mean, if I stood behind you, you ain't going to see me at all or anything else far as that goes. And they were about, you know, yeah, probably, I'd say about 10th floor

apart. Well, anyway, I'm sitting there at the bottom. that and I'm looking the other direction because the wind's hit me in the face. Because you get all these deer hides, you got to have the wind hitting you in the face. And I'm sitting there and I'm with a browning bowl, the bushmaster. I got this bucket with a full-bo seed on that bucket that swobles around and around. And I got my quibber on the ground with my arrows. I got an arrow on my ball. Up then I see this dough coming with a pond.

They're coming right up the hill by me. and they went by me, and I wasn't going to shoot dogs, look for a buck, and they come up to the right side of me, and they didn't even make it to, you know, where they could smell me because it was in front of me a little bit. All of a sudden, that ghost snorted, and they both turned around and took off running. I said, wow, that's weird.

And I'm sitting there listening, and I thought I could hear something coming up that hill behind me. And, I mean, it's big. You know, I could tell. I was like, crunch, crunch, crunch, and it's big steps. And it sounds like a, you know, bi-peel person walking. And all the time, I turned it all the way around my swam looking up the hills, them pine trees, the way to finish thing come over the hill.

All the sudden, they step from that one pine tree, one, two steps. It went from that pine to the next pine, and it was behind it. And I'm thinking of myself, you know, It was like 50 yards away from me. I'm thinking, is that Bob? You know, he's six, two, or whatever. And I goes, hey, Bob, quit, you know, messing around. You know, I'm hunting over here.

This thing took one step back, turned, and started walking down the hill towards me. And the closer he got, the bigger he got. And then I was noticing I wasn't really paying that much. I didn't even look at his face. I was looking at farms and how big and how tall it was. and how wide it was. I'm like, well, heck that, you know, but then it was, it had his arms down, mind me. I mean, mind you, his arms are down to his side, but he's just grabbing them popple trees with six-inch poplar tree with his wrist,

snapping them off on both sides of that trail. I think he did like 10 of them, but he got, I drew back my bow. I seen the hair on it, it's arms. And I'm thinking, well, heck, that ain't Bob. And I'm thinking, I threw back my ball and it's, man, I'm going to shoot you. And it just kept coming. And I'm like, I'm looking at it. And it's getting bigger and bigger closer to God, every step.

I'm like, if I shoot this thing, I'm dead. You know, so I just turn around with my bowl. I run. I just took off run. I left my clever, everything there, except for my bow and that one arrow. And I'm running ahead. I had these real big boot on. They're pretty heavy, you know.

I can run pretty fast. I was pretty fast, you know. And I'm booking through there, and I'm going through them pines and get back to the cabin. I was probably about, I'd say, 200 yards. No, they didn't under the porch. Well, anyway, I was moving so fast. a pine tree caught that you know in the corner of my bowl

and it got me dead I was moving so fast the whole body went straight out and my boots went right off my feet and I hit the ground I looked back and this thing's coming I can see it coming and here it come I can see it coming too I jerked that ball out and I got up and I I was barefooted well I had my shotgun but I was running

I was gone I'll come running Yeah, Jared, by the pond, and there's Bob and Maryland coming out of woods, and I just yelled at them. Get in the cabin now. They went wrong. I said, get in the cabin now, and I'm still running. I got in the door, and it was crazy. I was like, I got in the cabin, I grabbed my 16-gauge pump. I lowered it with buckshot slug, buck-shot, slug, loaded it up.

I took a big old Reckinder chair and I sat it right in the middle of the living room and I sat right in that chair with that gun and I'm pale white and I'm shaking they said what did you see? What did you see? I said you won't believe me if I told you

you ain't going to believe me if I told you and I didn't talk to him for like a half hour almost an hour and then finally I told them what I've seen you know and I of course they said what? I go yeah I said I don't know about you guys, but in the morning, I was already going to pack my stuff that night.

I said, my butt is out of here. I am gone because that scared me that bad. But anyway, on the way out, or I don't know what next morning, I'm packing my stuff. I was first four and up already had my stuff in the car. I see you guys going. Are you ready? And then, oh, we got away. We go, what about your stuff in the woods?

I said, I'm not going back there. And they go, well, come on, man. he said, we're with you. Let's go go back and get your stuff. And I said, I don't really want to. I was really scared. I said, okay, we'll do it because, you know, my girlfriend and her, whatever. They were four of us anyway, which that thing could take us all out with no problem.

And I'm thinking, okay. But I showed them, I didn't realize this, but when I showed them where the poplar trees were snapped off, which is arms were up in the air. They were down low and they were snubed. they were snapping them. They were snapped off at six feet high. Bob was two inches higher than all them trees. It was all even all the way across on both sides of that little trail.

He goes, yeah, let's get out of here. This ain't good. You know, and there's the rest, you know, popple tree. You've got to leave them and everything. I said, okay, so we leave. And then we'll get, there was a, what you call, a restaurant bar. we want to stop in to get breakfast and we walked in there

and said that the bar bench thing there and I tell I asked the guy you know how they say aloud or nothing they say hey man anybody ever see

you know a big foot or anything around and he just put his finger up and says what you try to scare my bed just off I goes no I should I'm just asking that I said you know low enough

nobody can hear me he goes yeah yeah they have I don't Well, that was enough for me, so I left. That was just the first incident I had. That was in Monington. He's talking about all the locals.

That's the day I'm going to clam up right away. Oh, well, yeah. Well, he didn't want to scare off his customers, you know. Sorry, Norm, real quick. Was that at the same cabin that Dean was talking about? This is a different place. Oh, no. Oh, that's what's in Monington.

That my cabins are in there, or Traverse City, I should say. Okay. My cabin. No, that's just one. listening now. I mean, that's just one. I got, I could tell you into a blue in the face. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Reesis with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culture Reesisters with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card and earn up to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's

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So I didn't even know, you know, I've heard of them before, but I didn't really believe in them. He's telling you about them. Well, I mean, I still haven't seen what I'd seen is believing, is all I'm saying. Okay, Vince. Well, I bet on that, didn't he? Yeah, he had to see that too. Yeah, I know. Well.

So, Norm, what you saw, was it similar to what Dean saw then? Yeah. I can't really say that because I didn't really. really pay attention to its face. Sure. But all I knew was this thing was over 10 foot. It was probably, yeah, it was probably 10 foot high. Man, might have been higher because the closer he got, the bigger he got.

I mean, he was big. You know, that's all I can tell you. He was, he was, he was, and I'm talking if I was in pound animal here, whatever it was. And then he had hands so big he could wrap him right around them trees. His finger touched together and he'd just snap them right off. I mean, what can do that? That's crazy.

It was crazy. That's a scary thought, man. They're so strong. Tell them about the trailer, man. Oh, real quick. What year was that again? That was 1998. Okay, thank you.

Yeah, go ahead. 1998, that happened. Well, okay. Well, I got to tell all the other stories before I get to that. All right, go ahead. But in the sake of a week, I don't know. I got to punch me. more to.

Anyway, let's see. How can I go with this? My next incident when I was up here. Well, we moved to Colpnees, me and my wife, and Dane. We moved up here, and then my wife was doing pretty bad off. Well, anyway, she ended up. We got an argument, but she was pretty bad. I mean, she was older.

She was dying. She was dying. and I'm trying to take care of her stuff. Well, everything was a little frustrating. You know how that goes. It was, you know, I'm trying to take care of her and everything. We got an argument. So I said, man, I got to go.

I got to get out of the house. So I get out of the house. I go over the Hurling Swamp over here, towards Mesey. That was a, that was a big mistake. Yeah, they had Dogman movies, novice, whatever. But I, you know, I just, you know, every since then, I kind of paid attention what I was listening to and, you know, knocks or whatever, different sounds, screams, or yells. Well, anyway, I went over there, had my camera with me.

I'm over at this dirt road. I forgot the name of the road anyway, but it goes down there, there's a culvert there, just like a river. It's like a little stream on one side, and then it goes in and the culvert comes through, and then to your left of you, you can park your car there and then they'll walk over to it. And then there ain't no way to get out of there unless you go down this road, right?

Back and forth for like 30, 40 yards. You got to run up that. Either that, you're going in the water. On one side. Now, on the other side is real thick. You're just going to sink in mud anyway. And there's a river there. But anyway, I could see probably

there's like, it's like winds around and it turns into like a lake in the back of this. And there was these big tall, other trees growing out of water that was up probably six, seven foot maybe. I'm thinking six, seven foot. I'd say seven foot. I don't just stand in it.

You know, trying to chill out. All of a sudden, I mean, it was foggy. It was nine o'clock in the morning. Or eight o'clock, eight 30, right around there. And, uh, it was. And it's fog, and the fog's left in and stuff, and I could see them trees a little bit, you know, and then all from the hair, cool, plush, cool, cooose, cool poohs, four times. And this thing went from, and it's in that water, which is probably over my head.

I can't believe how big this thing was. And I could see the top of its shoulders in his head. That's it. And he was grabbing them bushes like trees. And he was just pushing them to their side. You could see them just mowing them. I mean, he's just mowing through there, just walking actually. And I try to get a picture of it.

And I take a picture, which it was foggy out. And my picture, I didn't even get in my picture. I was like, what time? That's the way makes sense, you know? I got them in the camera, but yeah, they didn't show up. I was like, man, this don't even make sense. Well, anyway, the four steps, it got silent. I mean, real quiet.

And I'm standing there and can't believe what's going on. There's just red pine trees that are over there. And, I mean, they're so big. I am not exactly. They're red pines just like the red, big pines. You can drive a car through the trunk of these things. They're huge. I mean, math, 120 feet, 150 feet high, green tree.

This thing starts whipping back and forth, little that one time goes back. The whole tree. The whole tree. And then the third time I did that, it snapped off and he put it in the water. And I'm thinking, holy crap, it's time to leave. You're telling you when we were over there? Not yet. I haven't got there yet.

Well, anyway, I had left. I got the heck out of there. It scared me. I mean, what can do that? I mean, this tree, I don't know how much it would have, or how he even did that, but he snapped that tree off. and it hit the water over there and you could see where it went in the water

and it's old, this tree's so long and it's halfway across that pond, you know. And I'm like, holy crap. Okay. So I go get in the car, come home, I get Dean. I said, Dean, you ain't going to believe what I just seen. I said, no, you're probably right. Well, I grabbed him.

We go back over there. I want to see where this tree fell. I want to walk right up to it. I want to see exactly. I already knew how big it was. I just want to see where it snapped off at. You know, or he just,

well, he had to snap him because it may have big cracks out. Well, I know it was. Well, anyway, we walked across there and there was this little two-track road to go,

if you walk past that, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, to your left,

there was a little sand, two-track road, like, you know, forward wills or whatever, but they only go so far. I've been down there before and haven't seen nothing or anything, but it comes to a dead end bunch of these little pine trees. You can't go any farther. I'm thinking, okay, well, whatever, but we were walking around that corner and I looked at the ferns.

I'm saying, look at this. And all the ferns are pushed down. It's a big, wide path. We followed that. We started following that, right? I was like, we come to this ditch line. that goes into that pond to the lot. And we're standing, I'm looking at me, that's pretty, you know,

it's a pretty good-sized dish. You had to go down and come back up the other side, but it wasn't just a little bit of water going at the bottom. I wasn't real deep or nothing. And I'm standing there, and we're looking around, all of a sudden we hear, just like that. It was just like,

do you look at me? Did you hear that? Do you hear that bear? I go, I just want my finger out, you know, like this, like, quiet, quiet. I was like, okay, I heard it, but it was real faint. It was, whoa, but it was like real deep. I was like, okay, and we're standing there. We thought it was a bear.

And now I was beside him with just like that. And it was so wild. It was like, I looked at Dean, that's just, that's not a bear. I took off running, man. I was gone. He's yowing at me. So, oh, no, you ain't catching me. You can catch you.

You can catch you. He ain't catching me. I was gone. We come to the corner down there where we turn to go on that people, a little two track. And we're standing there helping and popping, because it was just quite a ways. You probably went 100 yards or so.

And no helping and puffing. All of a sudden, we're standing. And what the hell? You believe me now, you know, a deal. Yeah. what the heck, you know? And now all of a sudden, right in the corner off, in the woods, it wasn't very, it wasn't very far from us, whatever.

It was a baby one that's the only I can think of. Yeah. And it was like, it was chatter. It was like, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was crazy kind of sound, you know. It was like, I call it Samurai chatter, whatever. That's what they call on mine. Well, I'm just saying that's what it sounded like. And that first thing you said, what was that?

I said, what do you think that is? And I took off running to the car. And that was just that, that was one of our incidents right there, man. That's like, and I'll never forget it. I mean, I was scared. That scared me. Well, I ain't going to say that was the scariest part. I got a bunk of them, man.

That's like that. You guys are going to be here all. You know, well, anyway, that's. That was one of them. But what, what, what people understand, these things, these big foot, I call them the big apes, because I'd feed them pretty good, you know, but that, these things, they can smell you set and they can follow you home no matter. Well, far you're, you're away from them, whatever.

They can follow you home. That's where I made the mistake. Tell him about the Harlan when he followed me in that night. I was dead sleep. Tell him about that. The what one? The one that followed us with Harlan. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, probably two days, three days later. After that happened? No, no, that's right. It was quite a while after that. No, it was three days. Well, yeah, three days after.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm falling involved with the guitars and stuff. Oh, that was a lot later. That was a lot later. This was after bed pads away. But anyway, man, I can't understand how they can do that. They just know who you are, what you're doing.

They watch you constantly. Monkey see, monkey do. Tell them about the flashlights. Well, yeah. It's crazy. And I think, like he's saying, with flashlights, people see them light in the woods, without, you know, the big woods or whatever, you know, ones I see on, you know, TV, whatever. I really think they steal them flashlights from people and use them in the woods for themselves.

I really do. I really do. I was like, yeah, okay. So that's what my opinion is. But anyway, after the wife passed away, I made the mistake again, going over to Harlan Swamp. And I just standing around, walking around, you know, and then ditching that. And I got my cameras and stuff.

And, well, I made the mistake of putting apples out over there. I put them up high. I took a ladder with me. I put them real up high and stuff. You know, two days later, went back up over there. And they were gone. And they were gone.

And they're like, well, you know, I'm thinking maybe squirrels, whatever. But there, you know, it was just like, okay, I didn't really think none. Didn't see no footprints or nothing. And then I comes home and they were sitting there. Was it like two in the morning? I think it was. Two in the morning. I didn't feel the little trailer go up in the air and nothing.

but it came down and then, boom, I mean, it hit so hard. The guitars, they hit the wall three of the four times. They just bouncing because we got some hangers on there. They're bouncing. And I yelled at, Z, you know, what the heck you doing in there? I thought he dropped something real heavy or something, you know. And he comes running out, what the heck he did go? I didn't do it.

He goes, I says, oh, no. And that's the first thing I thought about, is that it might have followed me home. Tell them about how the guitar is laid up there. Huh? Tell them how we got it laid up. It's in the hallway. Yeah, it's in the hallway. And my light's right in between the lot of the entire and so.

But they just smacking on the wall back and forth. I mean, it takes a lot of pressure to do that. Well, and being of, well... Hey, Norm, sorry. Norm, sorry. Real quick, we got some weird disturbance when you were talking about something in the hallway. Can you read share that again, please? I had the guitars in the hallway.

You hear me now? Yeah, you're good. Okay, I had it probably too far away. I'm getting excited. But anyway, them things just bounced off there three times easy. I mean, boom, boom, boom, after he dropped it. I didn't know he just dropped it, you know. About 10 guitars on the wall.

Yeah, like 10 guitars on the wall, whatever. But anyway, Diesel, you can go out and tell? I don't know, man. I don't know. And then I said, well, you know what? It's my property, it's my trailer. I've got to check this out. So I go out there with a flashlight.

I go all the way around the front of the trailer and I come around. I look. I'm like, holy crap. I have one of them lights, you know. They just got the blue plastic thing that screwed into the wall or into the trailer. And then it's got the light hooked to that. This is Matt Rogers from Las Cultureistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Las Culture Reuters with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

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and there's a portrait there's a door right there too. Here's this big footprint. We can't see, told them because there's a bunch of leaves there, but you could tell it was a big footprint, you know. And I'm thinking, holy crap, so I started looking last white. I think, well, I'm going back in the house, man. That was enough for me. I mean, I can't explain anything else that could do something.

something like that. If it wasn't for the bands on my trailer, I think it'll lift the whole thing up. Yeah. I really do. He lifted it up and up and stretching bands and he just dropped it. I thought he'd just smack,

you know, kind of like smacked them to the wall, but he didn't do that. There ain't no vent in the metal or nothing. It's just like he pushed it up and let it down. That's the one, that's, well,

second incident. But, right, man, you, and so I'm blue in the face. Out back here, I've had a buddy of mine come up. I don't know what year was that. That was just two years ago, no, two or three years.

Two years ago. Yeah, I think it was that. Two years ago. Came up here. And I told them, I said, I got two blinds. I got 50 acres here. So, you know, it's, they're far apart. They're like, probably, you know, I would say 80 yards from my blind where he

He was at. There's box blinds, you know, he's sitting in, look out the windows and stuff. Well, anyway, when he was in, we go down on the two-track road, which I can drive right out if I want to, and it's a big old field, and it goes down, but where he's at, there's some, you know, tiny trees on your left, and then there's road, and then a bunch of hardwoods, and a big hill goes up. But you keep going straight, there's this gate that I put up right by the top. off.

What you call it? Not a power line. It's pipeline. It's a cattle gate. Yeah. I got a cattle gate I put up and I put poles in the ground. I put my, you know, trespassing signs on there and stuff. And now I'm just sitting there.

Well, anyway, yeah, I'm just sitting there. But anyway, the gate itself, if I walk up, I'm five, too. I walk up to it straight up to my chin. Okay? Well, I'm. I'm sitting there and I'll say here he comes. I'm thinking myself, well, heck it's like, I don't know, three o'clock in the evening. You know, I got out there late.

I just go out there late and wait for eating there, dark to come. But he was coming back. I figured he was just going to get lunch or something. But he's walking real funny. He looked pale white. You know, I'm watching. I mean, it took him 20 minutes to get from where he was at from that blind to me. I was in here watching him walk up.

Well, anyway, he comes by my window of my blind, and I don't even know if he knew I was in there. I go, what's going on? He goes, dude. He says, man, you got some weird. He said, man, you got some wind going on here, he said. I goes, what are you talking about? He said, man, I see something big and black,

and it walked right over. over to that gate, just lifting its legs up and walked right over it. Instead of going around it, it was just, just, right over top of it. But he said it had ears, but it was skinny, her wasn't, it was really tall, but it had a six-foot tail on the end of it. And I go, what? I said, don't you tell me that. I don't want to hear about nothing like that, you know, because I've already seen my

big foot before, and they don't have a tail far as I know. It's like, well, this thing is. I remember all variations, but... He said, I've never seen anything as big and ugly as that thing. He said, I'm thinking dog, man, right away, you know, of whatever they want to call him. And I was like, man, I don't need that around here, you know. But they've been known to be around here, too. So I get up here, I said, you know what, I'm not even going to hunt anymore.

I said, after he come up here and then they seem. them and he was packing it. He was leaving. He was done. Yeah, that was first day. That was first day, huh? Yeah. And he goes, I'm done.

I never, he hasn't been back since. Well, he should come up here for him. So I don't know what to think of that. I got so many incidents with my dog. I can't even, I mean, I took a walk with the dog. back there. Wait a minute, I'm going to go back a little bit. Right after he left this shit, by the way, when I did see this shit, I put a camera up,

I put a, you know, what he called, cam, you know, deer cam out. And I took the ladder. I put it 10 foot in the tree. And I'd be done. I forgot about it. I left it out there. It was out there, I mean, July or something like that, and I left it there until the whole net.

I forgot all about the camera being out there. And then I started thinking, oh, my camera, I goes out there and gets it. And I started looking through those. And I was there. I'm a very first picture after I tested it in here with me sitting in a chair. Here's this thing. It is 10 foot up in the air, and this thing, the shoulders, his eye was, had to be above it, but it was, and it turned, it didn't see its face.

All you see is the shoulder and the hair, and the whole long in the hair was like eight inches. He his arm for a second because he knew the camera was there. And it turned, and I'm thinking of it off, what do you think of this? You know, Dean goes, that ain't no bear. Everybody has shoulders to say, yeah, that's not a bear. There ain't no way it's a bear. You could tell us walking on two legs the way it turned, turn. and, you know, just walked away.

And I'm thinking, okay, so I got that on camera. That's the only thing I got good on camera. Well, I ain't going to say that. I got some pretty good footprints. Yeah, but tell them about the recording. It's a cabin. Oh, well, that's a wrong story, dude. We don't have to go through the whole story.

You just tell them about the importance. Well, I want to ask you a question. Okay. Okay. Do you know how you're going to? delete something and they can they actually get that off there after you delete it?

What are we talking about specifically? Oh, no, like after I get in there and can they find you know, what was deleted was on that card? Yeah, a small recorder tell them. Yeah. I got a small recorder, which is

pretty expensive. I paid a lot of money for it. Well, anyway, let me just go through their story. Okay, all right. My sister comes from Florida. Non-believers, she don't believe in Bigfoot, and her husband, they're like, I have you guys in your big foot and this and da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Then we get up there.

I drive my truck, she got her band, she got her to some with her, which is not all there. He just had a heart attack, and he, you know, it takes a lot of medicine, and he's not all there. But anyway, he is there, but he's not all there. I mean, I kind of got along with them. We could talk a little bit here and there. Anyway, we get there.

We're driving up the driveway, and it gets out. There's a fire pit by the cabin door, not too far from the cabin door anyway. And there's four chairs that were there. There were plastic ones, two green ones, and two white ones. And I was just there not very long as though, you know. And I get there and look, and I get out of the truck, and I go, look, look at my Just says, man, somebody stole my green chair. It's gone, you know.

I'm like, oh, that's weird, you know. And we walked all over the place for this chair. I thought, well, maybe I put it back, you know, in the shed in the back, and it wasn't there. Yeah, you know, no big deal. When they went, I had this recorder. And I said, you know what, I'm going to put this out. I grabbed a can, what are you called a coffee can, a big Maxwell house can. and I put that inside there for when we get wet,

and I put it down by the creek. The creek is by, what, 100 yards away from the cabin? No, not even that. It's like 50 yards. 56, yeah, it's right, because 100 yards away down there. All right, yeah, it's about 50 yards from the cabin. Well, I put that out. This was 2022 just happened.

You know. You're telling them what skeptics here? What means? You know, how bad they didn't believe in... Well, yeah, I told them. They're non-believers all the way. Well, anyway, I guess just puts it out there that night. I, you know, I talked in doing it.

And I said, well, okay, I met the cabins, the date and everything, what time it was, which I put it out at 9 o'clock, and it's still a little bit daylight, but it was getting dark. And I put it in that camera by the creek. And we got this little pipe that comes out. You know, we dumped the buckets down. down in there to get water. Yeah, you're a cold, like, thing, a little pipe. And I have a little ramp I put it up there that I can just put my knees down on it and

get the water. Well, anyway, I pushed it out there that night, and I get you up next morning, and grabs it up. I didn't turn it on or nothing after that. We started talking to stuff, and, you know, and I've been talking about, I'm always looking for signs of Bigfoot, you know, twisted, trees and, you know, all that stuff, which I found out there. Who had a few of those.

Anyway, we're sitting there. It was like two, three in the morning. Me and my sister sitting at the table. We're listening. I started it early. And I mean, it took a long time. It was like, you know, from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock in the morning, but that's all what time it went off.

And, you know, you can hear the water running. And it was like a little, you know, like a. kind of like that to it and we're, you know, I just got the thing sitting on the table. I'll tell and I hear nothing. I thought the batteries went dead.

I picked it up. I was on here and it comes back and this thing let loose. I mean, it's on top of this and it yelled. It didn't really yell. I would say it was like

And it went crazy. I mean, it was so loud and hurt your ears off of this recorder. That's how close he was. I mean, he put his hand right over that, no. And what I got out of that was he was telling his wife and the two kids that were there because there were two little ones there, chattering away with her. He yelled at them. and then she started yelling back at him

and it was insane. My sister, we both went back in our chairs and we fell all backwards right out of our chairs and he goes, they are real, they are real. I said, I told you. I said, I'm quiet, quiet. I went here with their, you know, trying to tell us to, you could almost tell what they were saying,

but you couldn't, you know. And it's crystal clear. I mean, this is the best evidence I've ever had in the world ever. I mean, you couldn't get nothing better than this. It was really good, really good. And their husband was supposed to pick him up, you know, after this, you know. I said this is what happened. Before, the next day I went for a walk down the pipeline, and this is at the cabin, too.

and I set that thing on the table anyway. I left it on the table. Well, anyway, Jeff got a hold of that, and he deleted that. I want to know if I can, if that still stays in there or not. I'm really, really, really, yeah. There's a mini recorder. It's a good one, too. It'll pick up till, like, what, quarter mile or whatever it is, real clear.

You can hear it, man. You can hear anything. walking or snapping twigs or growling or it's just a good but this thing scared me or whatever I know what it was I know exactly what it was so that's anyway that's when it gets tricky if if you've erased something like that like you could always try tracking down data recovery businesses but usually I mean that kind of thing is going to cost some serious money to try to get stuff back and I mean that's just what you my guess well how much serious How much serious money because it's worth it to me.

Yeah. I mean, this is beyond cool, man. I mean, this is, they've been wanting, you know, everybody said, I'd like to hear them talking and all this. Oh, they're smart. I mean, they're smart. But that was really good. I mean, it was so good.

It was just, it would blow your mind if you heard it. I can you to you. It would really blow your mind. Is it one of those recorders that have the, like, small SD card chip that you put into it? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yes. All right. Well, do you guys watch the show on YouTube? Yeah. Okay. So I would wonder if other listeners that know more specifics about this, maybe they can put something in the comments about how they could probably look into doing data recovery on an SD card from an audio recorder. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture East us with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is

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It's hard because a lot of times government, I'm going to try to go to government, but they're just going to cover it up. And no, they want nothing on there. Yeah. Oh, it wasn't on bear. I guarantee you that. The test of the government, it's a fair. They didn't know.

My buddy who's a park radio, they tell them. But, yeah, I hear what you're saying there. But I really, man, if I could find somebody that could do that, this thing's, I ain't, you know, trying to gain money out of or not. I just want to have it, man. It was just, that was the best evidence I've ever even seen ever. I mean, this is beyond cool, man. because after we picked their husband up, okay?

We get back, we gets back there, and, oh, you guys, and you know, that's his wife, he's talking, man, dude, they're here. Trust me, they're here, man. And then we couldn't prove it to him because he deleted that. And I was like, man, you know, I had it. I had some good evidence, real good. And then it's like, man, man. Well, anyway, he didn't believe him.

Well, I tell you what, Bob, let's go down there to a creek and look around and see the footprints because I went down there, right? But, okay, well, anyway, let me finish the story last thing they were talking. They were talking. He yelled at the kids. She yelled at him. And she was a little bit more higher-pitched, you know, voice. When him was real, low, deep, I mean, it was deep, deep, it was so deep and big lips.

You could tell he had big mouth on him. And the little ones are going, just like monkeys would. It was weird. It was so cool, man. And then I finally got silent. I didn't hear nothing. I can hear the crick running.

Next thing you hear that, I think it was the male, the big male, took his hand underneath that pipe, filled a little full of water, and went sucking that up. I mean, this was really good stuff, man. And then all of a sudden you hear, walking down the creek, cold blues, cold blues, it was like five steps, and the farther he got away, but, you know, the lesser you could hear it. And I'll say, you didn't hear nothing.

And that didn't dawn on me. I went down there, look for footprints right where the device was and where the can was and stuff. and I couldn't believe he didn't take it, to tell you the truth. I was like, man, he already knew it was there because he could put his hand over it, you know. It was really crazy. But anyway, I looked for put in front, well, I waited, had to go get Bob, and we went to pick Bob up there. He said, okay, let's go down there and look. And he went on one side of the creek, and we went, I said, oh, yeah, they walked down the creek, right in the water, you know, right in the creek.

We're walking down through there, and I'm looking at it. the mud off the sides, you know. No footprints, no footprint. And Bob goes, oh, my God. He goes, he goes, what? He goes, what? He said, man, go get your camera. Holy crap, look at the size of that footprint. And this is two, uh, it was two days later after that.

And it's through the creek everyone's with sand. And that footprint was in that all the way up. You could see where he walked all the way up and they stepped off the side and took off. And there was a baby one there too, a little one was one of the baby footprints. I was like, oh, man, cool. But he was a believer then. It was like, really? He couldn't believe it because this was like 21 inches by 10 inches wide, you know, with toes and everything.

And it's in the water. Do you believe that was still there? I couldn't believe it was still there because usually the sand cover it up, you know. about the pitch of margar scott of the little baby one. Oh, yeah, that was at the cabin. Yeah. But he was a little monkey. Norm, was that in Carlin, that whole story?

Yes. Yep. Wow. Yeah, well, that cabin was built in 19, well, I can't say it was later than that, but we put the shed on it in 1910 when I was a little wee, big kid. My dad did. Not 1910? Yeah, it was.

you were alive when in 1910 well I'm just saying we put the shed out there that little shed right there I got a picture of McCallon on the wall but it's still standing today which I can't and that's another thing that's another story I can tell you it's like man well we went up here and my wife

went there hunting one here and went up there and I went out and I went to the left down these roads This was before they built houses over here. And there were these big old trees up this big hill. I was back in there hunting. And she stayed at the cabin. And I come back in the cabin just before dark. I looked at all coats because we had these nails, you know,

nails they hang in clothes on and stuff like a little, you know, closet or whatever. But it wasn't. It's just a pole there with the, you know, nails where you can hang your clothes on. All of them coats are on the floor. All the pictures are on the floor. on the wall were on the floor I go in the

back in the back room of it and we had an old one of them old what we call Castern Tubs

that was up on the wall nails and that was on the floor all the pictures were on the floor and this cable

was on the floor I'm thinking I'm looking around Bev where you're at and there's no Beth I'm thinking

somebody come in got there you know and he had this little red Ford truck full drive, Ranger,

and I goes off telling them, damn, my meal, you know, because she didn't answer me in there, and I was freaking out. I was like, something got her. And I was putting in here

the window with down on her truck and I'm over here, real quiet. I go, what's going on, man? He's a dude, they get out of here. There's something big out here.

It was funny to me. You know, I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah, man, it's something. Right there, you know, where the shed was, it hit that, or right in between the shed and where the cabin part started, boom. And she said it hit so hard and knocked everything off the walls, which it did. All the pictures were broke.

I mean, the glasses on the picture. It was messed up. It was just a regular, long cabin, yeah. And, oh, man. And I'm looking like, okay. So I go down there. with a flashlight because it's dark at this time. And I goes,

looked up there, holy crap. Here's a big dent right there. I mean, a big dent in my old, metal roof. I mean, it's big,

and it's up there quite a ways almost halfway up the cabin roof. And I looked down and I'd be darned a thing in the footprint there. Good one. That's all I did one. And I said,

okay, so I goes in the house, or everyone calls the cabin and I tells her yeah, let's pack her stuff let's get out of here and we locked we ended up leaving

she was scared about Sally she was just she said she was sitting there this boy she told me she was sitting there off on her hair just started stood up on her neck

the back of her neck you know just had that feeling something was wrong you know and all found whoa that ain't the only time

that's happened anyway at that cabin I mean I've had I could man I can tell you some of this stuff. Well, anyway, I'd have my sister come up. This is the same year as I got that on the audio.

You know, I, she, she, they ended up leaving and then my other sister comes up. And when she came up, we have this apple tree by the pirate pet, not too far from it, and a pine tree. it has bent over, I mean, twisted, bent over and down on the ground and all the leaves right off of it. And I'm thinking, well, I'm going to do with this. And she's looking and she said, wow, what the heck would do that?

That's probably a bear, you know? I didn't know. And, you know, I'm, you know, I believe in a big punch of stuff. And we always, you know, well, anyway, we was up there cutting the grass and we were doing stuff. And this thing, We got to look, and she goes, hey, look.

I go, what? She goes, they mean bear hair. They were kind of like reddish color, real long inches. And there was a couple of rolls on there. I put gloves on it, and the whole night yards with tweezers, and grabbed that hair off of there, and I got that in the little box. But then there was a big old clump of hair, too. You know, it's black with a little bit of gray.

it. And I grabbed that, I'll put that in there. And they're all long hairs. And I'm, I'm, I'm, oh, cool, man. Maybe, you know, that's what it was. But, you know, I'm taking Bigfoot. Because the way it's twisted, I can't do that. It can't grab something and twist it and then pull it down. It's just going to pull it down. This thing was twisted and pulled down. I was like, you know, it's like four or five inches, not even that. maybe, let's say, two and a half inches round where it was twisted and pulled down, but it really tall was, and it ain't even more. But anyway, we're speaking out about that. Well, what happened was I had a big red pine right next to the cabin. And half of that got, don't ask me how it happened, there was no storms or nothing,

but I'm talking a big burger. It wasn't rotten either. It was not rotten. They've been there for years, and half it went up straight, and then it split. Well, the split part that went towards the roof of the cabin was on the cabin. I cannot believe it did not crush it. I mean, completely to the floor. I mean, this thing is heavy.

It's huge. You take two people to get your arms around this thing. You know, it was massive. And I got that off of there, and I had that all the way, on the ground and stuff all caught up, which was a heck of the job. I was thinking myself, well,

we would have done that? I'm thinking maybe a lecture, you know, what you call lightning, but then I'm thinking, no, because we didn't have no storms. We didn't have no storms.

No when, no storms. Well, anyway, that's the way in there, and my sister says, I'll get a picture of me on that, that's laying there, and she sets down, and I take,

a picture of her. Well, she got running smartphones, right? It's really a good camera on this thing. Super. I mean, you can zoom in up to a quarter mile away. It was right by the fire pit. I took her picture. She goes, let me see.

I want to make sure it's okay. You know, she wants to look good or whatever. And I go, yeah, okay. And I get the tour. And then she goes, oh, my, I goes, what? You don't look good? She just, that ain't it. You see what?

I have, no, I didn't look at it. And she was, you ain't a little bleeple's in the background. I goes, what? Here's this little baby big foot, peeking around the corner on this oak tree, and he's peeking around looking right at it. And you can tell what it is. You can see part of its arm. You can see its face.

You see his face clear as day. It's a good one. It's not a blob squadswomen. No, it's not a blob squatch. It was crystal clear. Way to way, we, we've, we, took that, she took that picture. We took that up to one of the places that you can have it blow it up

or put it into a CD and we wanted to see it on TV before you can put, you know, she had one of them CD TVs you just put in there and turn it on and you can see it. And then first thing that lady said when she comes back, oh, a baby Sasquatch and she don't know what from having. We didn't say nothing about it. Yeah, she just knew. I was How the heck you know? Oh, I've been to Washington State.

I know all about these things. Just like that. So I was like, okay. Cool. Tell them what? You want to tell them something? Hold on. Do you guys still have that photo?

She does, yes. Yeah, she's got it. Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah. I got that one with the hair with their shoulders on it. I got all that. See, it's hard.

It's hard to believe. It's hard to believe. this has happened throughout the year. I mean, we've got so many things and you hear a lot of stuff on these bigfoot things and a lot of that sounds real. See, I'm not, I'm more than science, you know, you're not going to tell me there's no portals. I'm not going to believe that. I'm not going to believe in the cloaking. The only reason I say that is because you see how fast these things move. You could walk right past one. You wouldn't even know he's there. For as big as those things are, you wouldn't even know they're there. And, you know, we're woodsman. I

I know what a bear is. I know all my animals, you know, I've been out in the woods for years. I know what a bear is. I know what a elk is. I know a deer. You know, these people always blame that bear. That bear gets blamed for so much. I got a buddy.

It's a park ranger. And the first thing they told them, and no matter what happens, it's a bear. They call them to say that. And if it's not a bear, you know, you don't tell them it's a bear. You're going to get a visit from Uncle Sam. And they tell him, you know, he's sworn, they got a signed a non-disclosure agreement about that. Yeah. I don't know what the rules are.

This is a long time ago when this had, when he told me this. Yeah, like, yeah, we got cougars up here too, and the DNR said they don't exist, but yeah. Yeah, we got them on camera. Yeah, I got those on camera. See, a lot of stuff, we actually have proof for all this. We have physical evidence of a lot of this stuff. one of the best footprints, and he didn't tell you about that, Harlan Swamp. Oh, yeah, that's a boy.

Yeah, Vince was a... That was the big boy. Yeah. We had a picture, and that one's 23 inches long. It's like 10 inches wide, 23 inches long. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Rees with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Colteriscer with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card in an herb to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash.

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It was in hard pan dirt. And our friend is a pretty big guy. He jumped up and down. He couldn't even make a bad at it. And it was about maybe three-quarters of an inch deep in a hard pan. So you had to be pretty heavy to make that, you know. But anyways, I'll get to the best story I have. We were up here And Vince was up here Our non-believing buddy This is a crazy story This is really good

And beyond good And none of us We were so scared We didn't take a picture Didn't even think of it Didn't even think of it We're running for guns We're running

My girlfriend's on the phone with me We just saw it at first started And she was a non-believer And I'm sitting Now my room is at the end of the trailer I've got a room there, and Norm's got his bedrooms in the other end of the trailer. Well, my room has the biggest windows because we used to start to, yeah, I used to start tomato plants in there, and then transfer them out to our greenhouse because we have a huge, we have the biggest collection of heirloom tomatoes in the United States.

And I did a lot of crosses. I got about 150 crosses, an heirloom cross that I made. Like I said, I'm into genetics, and I used to breed bettas, too. Anyhow, so I'm sitting there, and I hear all this growling out there. But this night, let me get to the beginning, we were grinding deer burger. We had three deer here that we were doing burger. And we were putting the, you know, the refuse, you know, stuff, parts that we didn't use. We put it out in the trash can because, you know, there's no room for it for it in here.

So we put it out in the trash can. And we were all done at that point grinding and didn't even think anything about it. And I'm sitting out there. And it's pretty cold. This is November. November 15th. This is, what, three days later. Yeah, three days later.

So I'm sitting at my computer at the desk by my windows. And the trash can is like a, like right underneath my window. But if you look out there, you can't even see it. It's so black out there, you know. And I hear all this growl. I kept hearing it. And it was going on for a good four or five, you know, minutes. I mean, straight.

I'm like, I'm thinking it's. and Norm and the, or the dog, because Norm will go out there and shake that tree once in a while because he knows it. Yeah, he wants to freak me out because he knows it. The murder monkey, what we call him, you know, he comes and screws with us a lot. But, and I come out here and I goes,

well, first happened was I'm on the phone, I hear all this, just steady like, er, just like that, exactly like that. I'm thinking, the first thing I'm thinking was a bear, because we do have bears here. And so I told my girlfriend, he said, Hey, Heather, you want to hear a bear? And she goes, yeah, yeah.

So I went and I put the phone closer to the window, which you cannot see out of, even though, you know, it's right there. And it got louder. Then it sounded like it was getting mad, you know. You're like that. And so I come out here and see if these guys were messing back. I said, let me come out here and see if no.

Norm or Vince are out here screwing with me. Well, they're both in the house, and the dog is sitting in between them. I'm like, what fact? I go, hey, man, there's something out there growing, you know. But it was too cold for the bear. Yeah, I thought it was a bear. I said, yeah, there's a, I think there's a bear out there. Norm went out first, and he came in here like he was on fire.

Yeah. And I see them with the lid open. He's looking at it. He bent over, and it was huge. Yeah, well, Vince, the biggest night. We know he walked right out on the porch. Now, you've got to understand, from the porch to the trash can is only about 15 yards. Not even that, maybe 10 yards.

Yeah, I think it's only 10. Yeah, it's about 10. And this thing stood up, and he's got one of them high-lumin lights, flash spotlight. And he shined it on its face. This thing got pissed. He took one step, and Vince was in here, going for his 45. and I'm going, that ain't big enough as I'm loading my 270. I went to pull the boat back and it was empty because Norman used it for dinner.

You usually, you know, we're usually loaded around here all the time because you never know what's going to happen. So I'm sitting there fumbling trying to get cells and meanwhile, Heather's on the phone with me the whole time. She's hearing this. And it's just chaos in here. Nothing but chaos. It's just, it's crazy. You know, and this is scared to death now. And Norm is like, it's just confusion around here because it's, it's craziness.

And I'm telling you, that was a, I don't know what you call a class A signing, because he was right there. We all seen him, you know. Well, Vince says when he stood up, when he stood up, he was up, there was a line on the trailer, then you got maybe two more inches. to the roof starts. Yeah. His head was even with that line,

and I measured that. It was 12 foot. Yeah, I saw... 12 foot from the ground to there. And we got footprints of that, too. We got pictures of that. They locked in between them too. Yeah, he walked in between them too.

Yeah, he walked in between. His head was over it. Yeah. So we have footprints of that. We've got evidence, and I know this all sounds unbelievable, but you've got to understand. We've been living up here,

and we've been in the woods a lot. You're not going to find them if you're not in the woods a lot. Like I said, If you look for them, you're not going to find it. You got to sit. Yep, you got to sit. Like, all these, we laugh at all these Bigfoot shows because they're out there banging and doing all this infernal screaming and yelling.

It's like, you don't understand what they know. Those Bigfoot's know where the other ones are. They know where they're at, you know. And they make really, they try to imitate. We have one out here that tries to do one out on. That's the worst sound than I've ever heard my whole life. You know, and owls in territorial, unless they're a barnall. And then next door over here, there's a bunch of commotion out there.

You know, it sounded like there was 10 owls. I go, no, 10 owls are not going to be in the same area. It's just not going to happen. You know. But anyway, get back to the story. Vince, our buddy, I says, well, that very first day, the day he was here, we was talking about Bigfoot. And I goes, well, he found a foot plant out in the Harlan,

like a month before or two months before, you know, I goes, well, something made that footprint, you know, yeah, these people, you know, keep saying, oh, there's no such, well, something made the footprint, you know, oh, it's the alleged big, a legend by, there's no alleged about it. We saw what we saw, and there's no alleged about it. It was a big foot, not a bear. It just kills me when these people, you know, that's 23 inches by 10. By 10. Yeah. And we were going to cast it.

Norm was going to cast it. It rained that night, man. God, we were, that would have been the best. It was a perfect. It was a perfect. It was going back and cast it by the rain,

but I wanted to stick it around. That was the one that was in the hard pan. And you could see the tolls. I mean, it was the best definition. I mean, it was perfect. But that,

you know, it killed me was there was only, only saw one. And that's what I don't understand about a lot of these footprints. There's only one, you know? It's like, where are the other ones, you know?

and like I said they disappear quick like really fast they're just super fast you know so I can understand why people think that they might have oh this magical portal where they you know no

they're just so quick you know they duck down so fast too and we caught them ducking down it's like there they are there they're not you know and people look well they're got to be human they talk and go yeah well parents

talk, cockatoo's talk, minor birds talk, crows talk. That's a story there too. But yeah. Guys, you have been having some crazy wild encounters

and I didn't know this was happening in this area of Michigan. Like this is intense. Just blows me right away. I got a few questions for you if that's all right for a little bit. I got an answer.

All right, cool, cool. So I am a little bit familiar with this area. Have you ever heard of any activity happening by the Lake Ann area? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And Holden Piled Dam. Lots over there. I mean, they've had a lot.

And Dead Man's Creek, you ever hear, that's on the Bigfoot report, actually. And that's right down the road. We can throw a rock and hit Harlan Swamp. right here. And oh, that time he went over there, the first time we went over there and made him together, that thing followed us. I know it did. Because we drive down there, but it's only about, oh, maybe a quarter mile down the road on the left-hand side. And that night, I slept, my window was wide open, and I was in a dead sleep, and I smelled this fall. I mean, it was bad. I mean, I can even, you can't describe the smell of these things. These cabins that you've been having,

all these things happen. Are they still in your possession or have they been sold off? You're welcome. If you want to, you know, like I said, if you want to see a big foot, we'll go and make a fire sit out there and just listen.

Or, you know, you get out there and they come around when you're, you know, you're not looking for them, you know, you're not going to find go out there bang on trees. Do an infernal yelling and you'll never see one ever.

I just, you know, I don't believe that. Every time we've ever had an encounter, You haven't been looking for them. We've been sitting or hunting, you know, you're sitting in a blind or you're sitting out still hunting or anything. You won't see him if you're walking around, but you're sitting, you will, you know. No, I agree.

That's how it happens is you're just hanging out, and that's when the stuff happens. And they're curious, they like music. Like when Mike had his experience, my buddy's name Mike, the one that had the camper out there. And every time that we've ever had something happening out there, we've been playing our guitars because we're both guitar players. And we go out there and we play. But he was in his camper trailer by himself playing guitars. He kept hearing his scratching on the side of the camper.

Well, he's sitting there. Well, I didn't know if it was Jake. You know, I go, Jake isn't 12 foot tall. You know, and he kept hearing it. And the one time it scared him so bad because he kept the shotgun. He's got a brush shotgun. and it's kind of shorter than, you know, shorter than, you know, shorter than a 28-inch barrel, shorter than that. But he ran out there with the gun, but he didn't go around the side of the trailer.

He really didn't want to see. You know, he wanted to be gone, but he didn't want to see it, you know. Like me, I don't ever see it again, ever. I don't want to see it. I just don't, you know. I mean, you got for years, and you've been programmed, there's no such thing. It's just like these skeptics we had that won't ever come back. here again. They won't come back. And we know this has been our buddy for what, 40 years.

Yeah. And he won't come back here. He's done hunting. He won't go in the woods anymore. He's just that scared of it. And I got another buddy of mine that lives in Ohio because I had a little bigfoot site on Facebook and I had Tony, his name is Tony, Brandon. And he had the worst experience, you know, it started messing with him. And, yeah, it was actually hunting him. He had catfish in one of those horse crops on the side of his house to clean them out, you know, burp them out so that they taste good

and so they don't taste like the bottom of the lake. And every once in a while, one of them would go missing and all of a sudden pretty soon, you know, all went missing. And the river was right by his house. Well, anyways, he went out there. he's got like 25 feet from a, uh, 25 feet from a, uh, female. And, and she actually was, uh, stalking them, you know, and the one night got so bad that they were, they were getting ready to break into the house. And Tony and his wife packed up. They got into his truck. They left a fully furnished

house. Just took the gun. And just took, yeah, I don't think he took the gun. Did he say that? He was on the phone. We had, like we are now, have on the speech. phone and he was crying and Tony is like an ex-ex what seal he's a thing he was seal ex-seal he was on the phone and he was crying telling us this and he moved to Arkansas and he just left everything his house his furniture everything just up and they left that night and then he goes when he got down to Arkansas he he started having incidents again down there exactly oh my goodness so this happened in Ohio or Michigan Oh, that was Ohio.

Now, he's gone to the psychiatrist and everything, and they just can't, that guy is just mentally done. He's done. Wow. Yeah. Oh, man. And it's just destroyed his life. And a lot of people that see him, you know, that's just a bad thing about it. They don't want to see them again.

I don't want to see it again. But that thing right here, that was the recent one. That was just this last November. And Vince with Vince. And that thing, it had to be about, and I'm not kidding you, this is no exaggeration. It had to be five or even six people. It's the biggest thing that I've ever seen.

Wide. Yeah, wide at the shoulders. He wouldn't know, sent through the hallway. It's like, you know, you look at this thing. I go, man, thing's got muscles in it. You know, you know, just, I mean, it's just like you can't conceive. That one's here to see. I mean, that would have been a great picture if one of us would have had the brains to grab the camera.

I was too afraid. Yeah, we were afraid. He scared to death. And he took one of the bags out of the garbage. Yeah, he took one of the bags. And he didn't run. He walked away. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Rees with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

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You walk. We watched him go away. Just, I'm thinking, yeah, keep going, go on, hurry. So there's three of us watching it, looking at this thing. I defy anybody to tell me there's no such thing. There is a such thing, and they're there. If you want to deny it, that's on you. Let me tell them on another story. Yeah, we got a million of them. Yeah. He might run out of the line.

This is all true. Everything we're saying is true. You hear me? You got it. You got it. You got it. Oh, you got it. It was about, let's see, three years ago, all hunting.

I had dog permit, so I got three goats. cleaned them up in the pole barn and stuff and I took the hides, the rib cages, because we don't mess with that. And I put them out on property, put the way back there. There's a little hole I put in the ground. There's a hole. It's not really a hole. It's like a real big indentation hole, actually. I could drive right back there, back up there, and I just put the hides out there in the heads and, you know, the feet, you know, the legs, feet and all that.

three rib cages with three hides, heads in the ring. Okay, this was the second day of beer season on that year. The next day, I went out there with the dog, took a walk,

put the orange vest on and stuff because I got a lab. And we went out there and everything is gone. I'm talking every bit of it. Nowhere to be seen. None of that. I couldn't find the hair, the hide, the ribcages, the feet, nothing.

It was all gone. Well, in the meantime, I'm checking this out. The dog took off. Here he comes with one of them ribcage, not the ribcage itself, but just one of the ribs off the ribcage. It had in his mouth. He come up to me. I grabbed him, where'd you get that?

I'm looking at it. And I'm looking at the inside of that, and there ain't no marrow on it. You can see through it. I'm thinking, where'd you get that at? And he's really a smart dog. He lifted his head up, and he took off running. So I followed him. We came to the back almost to the pipeline, probably about 100 yards away from where it was that.

Oh, yeah, that's at this house, right where I live, out back. And I get around there, and he went right up to this thing. Here are these three paint trees. They're probably 83 high. They're tied together at the top with vines. I don't know what kind of vines. And you couldn't see around the whole thing except for the V part in, you know, like a doorway. The limbs were snapped off.

And look, here's these ribbons. all the backbones, they're stacked knee-high in a square, like, Legals. And there ain't no marrow in them, right? I'm looking around like, man, this is pretty fresh, you know. And I already know about the big foot. And I'm thinking, well, I got a picture of this. I took the dog, hurried up, and I'm practically running back up here. I got my camera, I left the dog here.

I was so scared I almost flipped out but I ain't done yet I get back there and I'm like Are you kidding me Here's the same spot I'm in the same spot

The trees are on tide They're apart And all the rib bones are gone You think about how many rib bones It would be on a deer Each deer They were stacked at high But they were like them legals

It was very intelligent, whatever it did that. It wasn't coyotes. It wasn't, you know. And when I seen them gone, I'm getting out of here. I took off running, because I didn't think about grabbing gun. I didn't have my gun or nothing. Which I probably wouldn't shoot them of one or a few. You know, I just can't, you know.

You don't have a big enough gun. Really, yeah, you got to have a real big gun to do that. I mean, it's crazy. But that was a real weird. experience, man. I'm telling you, that was freaked out. Think about that a little bit.

If you've seen that yourself, I mean, you know, you got the ribbone straight this way and one straight here and then another one on top of the directions

and they were all stacked up knee high. That's pretty wild. That's some weird stuff, man. I knew I did it. Ain't only thing as a bus because there ain't nobody out there going to climb that tree, which he could reach up and do this because they're big enough and just put them together like that.

That's what blew my mind. I wanted to get a picture of this stuff. This was good stuff. And it was already took apart. And all the rib bones are gone. How are you going to carry the many ribbons? I'm talking three deer's worth, which is snapped up. What was weird, I never found the hides and never found the heads.

None of it, except for them rib bones. but they were gone too. I was like, okay. And another thing that's really strange, this just happened last year. Matter of fact, you carry pies? Oh, yeah.

Well, we had her pie, and we were eating them. He made them, and they were really good. And we didn't eat them all, and they started getting mold on them. So one, I was like,

well, I'm going to just take them out back. I ain't just going to throw them out. I don't go feed them burgers or whatever out back. And I went out, and I got a spot that put this, These pans, right? They're in a pan, a silver pan, like a size of a plate, you know.

And there was only a half a pie and one in a whole pile. I said, I'm right next to each other. This is so crazy. I mean, beyond crazy. I went out there to the next day, the pies are gone. But the pie tens were there. And then the pie 10s was on the inside. of the other pipe in.

No scratch marks, nothing. I'm thinking, wow, but there's no footprints there. I'm thinking, how can they do this? Be as heavy as they are and there ain't no footprint. And I think that's the first thing I thought about because I put a pie out there before it was a year before that, and I seen an eagle eating out of it. You know, eagle, and they have big marks in it and shit

and they actually ripped the bottom of it and stuff. or even a raccoon would do the same thing. But this was, I couldn't believe it. But that ain't the end of the story. I come back up here, and I'm taking the dog for a walk two days later, after this happened. I couldn't believe this in a million years. I got a trailer back to old trailer that I just put junk in the stuff or whatever. But it's probably, I don't know, 300 yards from the house here.

and I come across right by where my John Zier tractor is, pain cones in a circle in the middle of the driveway, the same exact size as M-Py-10s. And it was weird because, you know how you got the point out of pine cone and you got the white end? They're all exactly the same all the way around in a circle, right? I think He's telling me he wants more pie

That's the only thing I come That's the first thing I came to my head Because it's exactly the same I even checked it You know And then I called my sister up She said well Well leave it

Leave it there and she said no I'm going to try something You know So what I did is I took Four or five of them pine cones out It made like a horseshoe out of it And I put them, you know, straight lines from the, you know, the back of the pipe then all the way out, right? And I said, okay, I'll leave it like that.

Next day, I go out there. This blew me away, man. It's back in the same circle. I mean, I didn't know it. I know nobody else did it. I said, okay, man, this is it, you know. And that's exactly not too far from that's when I had them stones throwed at me, man. I almost had my kneecap taken off.

That's how fast this thing was coming. You know, here it coming through them trees. You got it to stone. Yeah, I know we got them. It was like, man. And I yelled at whatever. At first I heard like, you know, laying it over the top of my head and they hit the ground on the, you know, the side of the driveway.

I won't call it drive well, it's a driveway, two track, whatever. And it bounced and I went over and picked it up, and it was a stone. I thought it was acorns at first one. No, I don't even have acorn trees out there. I do, but not there. It was like, okay, anything, nothing. Okay, I picked it up, put in my pocket.

Two more steps, and then here come one, B-line, straight through. I mean, it wasn't bobbed in or nothing. It was coming, I don't know, I couldn't see what threw up, but it was, and it just missed my knee. I mean, it hit my pant leg, and you could see the old, and it goes bouncing off the side. I go over there and I started to yell and I first of the wind got there rocking. Hey, what are you doing over there? And I even stood there for a while looking around and he walked in there a little bit.

You thought it was a neighbor. Then I thought it was a neighbor and I started thinking, ain't no way. There's no way he could throw that fast. Ain't no way. And what distance it came. It was over 60 yards, man, our 50. I could hear it coming. And what amazes me, how can they not hitting other trees?

It was crazy. I was like, wow, man. I was scared. And the dog started growing, too. He was looking over there. He was growing and he wanted to leave. Oh, I've had, I'm not, here's another story to hold back. Okay, that's what the pie thing.

That was a good one. but I, man, so much stop, just so much. I've got paint tree snapped off, nine feet high, off the ground, shoved in the ground upside down, and you can't pull them out of the ground. Wind don't do that. That's why it's going to be so hard for people to believe, because we got so many stories. I got pictures of that, too. Yeah, we do have pictures.

Yeah, I got pictures of that. That matter of fact, that paint sheet's still there, that warrant is, but then I found three. more. Tell them about the grave and then tell them about the trees upside down. Well, that's what I did. That's what I'm talking about, the trees upside down. But anyway, what else? There was something about, oh, what about the dog? I took the dog, that's really made me bad. I was so mad. I get out there by my blind. I got the dog with me. He goes into the woods to my lap. And then actually, he's so far

in and then it's neighbor's property, right? I don't just, standing there looking around and I'm looking down my field trip I've seen the deer cross or whatever all of a sudden here he comes I hear him yelp one time yep like that he comes he comes flying by me at a hundred miles an hour I mean he's hauling with his tail between his legs and he just flew by me and I got one of them zappers things I had everything out there and he didn't even stop he just kept going run all the way up here to the house all right I'm thinking, what happened to him? I thought maybe bees, he got stung by a bee or something, because it's the Y.

And I'm looking over there, and I'm trying to see this maple tree. And I see this big, big, same black thing on the outside of it, just picking out, you know, a little bit. I'm thinking, what was that? And I'm watching, and I start looking up, all of a sudden I see a hand on the tree, and I see his head peeking, and he's looking right at me. and it was a big foot and it was a big one and I was like I grabbed my phone up right

I'm going through all these things trying to get to the camera I got one on flip phones and I didn't know how to get toward right away and stuff and I'm trying to find it trying to find it and finally I got it

I brings it up and he's still there and I just said I'd bring it up he went back behind the tree and I'd never seen him leave I'd never seen him take off and I was like what a bummer you know

I wish I had one of the smart. He was cloaking. I wish I had a smartphone, you know. But no, he wasn't cloaking. He was gone. He just took off. You know how I feel about that. Yeah.

Well, and that was one of the incidents, and that happened to him three times. And one time I went out back, but I went to the right side, because I got a lot of property of 40 acres back there. He went into the woods, Because he finds, always finding bones, you know. Always.

Every time he goes out there, he'll find a bone. Well, this time he comes out of the woods, this little trail got back there. He comes running up there. He's all prints, and he'll give me that. And it was a deer leg, but I still have blood on it. I'm thinking, what? And I grabs it from him.

And then he turned around, he starts growling. You know, he's drowning towards where he found it. I started walking that way and all of a sudden I heard. I was like, oh, I didn't know if it was a bear or what. I didn't go find out. I just like, let's go. We're out of here, you know. There's so many incidents.

It's crazy, man. That's what's going to be heard of bleed because we got to mention. There's so many. I mean, there's just so many. I mean, it's insane. This is Matt Rogers from Las Culture Rees with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Las Culture Reuters with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Spend your balance instantly.

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I don't know if he shook that little, it's like a camper trailer on the, you know, the legs of it. And she was not, no, no, no, no. She was weird, you know. Well, she was a skeptic, too. Well, at first she was, no, she ain't no more. No, she's a, no. She's a, another thing, this is at the cabin. Well, I'll tell you that.

This is a good. Beyond good, too. This is in Carlin? Yep, at the cabin in Carl. Not in Copneys. We were up there cleaning the yard again and stuff, planting trees. Maybe that's why I didn't come around because I plant a lot of trees. I got American chestnut trees.

I got hundreds of them. And, you know, I actually probably more than that, probably thousands. But anyway, we were over there. And yeah, we're talking stuff by the fire pit bull making hot dogs. Oh, man, I could, man, I got so many stories. I want to jump to that to something else, but I can't. I'm not going to do that. Well, she went to go to the outhouse.

We got an outhouse over there in the back of the cabin. Hey, you're a clarifier. You got those saplings, seedlings coming up all over. Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah. Well, I got full-sized trees, too. They're getting up on them. thousands of them.

Well, there's a lot of saplings back there. Yeah, little bitty ones coming up from all the swirls taking them. Well, I'm talking the ones I planted even. There's a lot of them back there. Anyway, she went to the outhouse.

And I'm just sitting there cooking her home when he's on the fire. The fire, you know, grill right there on top of the fire, open fire. And all of them are here, A big tree hit the ground. I wasn't laughing at first.

I was like, man, there's no wind. Nothing. There comes my sister. She's screwing along real quick. She ain't running. But she gets up there. He's over there. That's talking about pictures over there.

It's like, what? I said, let's go check it out. She ain't going over there. I said, come out. Let's go check it out. And she goes, man, I don't want to go. over there. I said, we got to see what kind of tree fell. When we get over there, it is a full-sized maple tree,

half about nine foot up, it snapped off, and then leaves on it and everything. And they ain't riding, it ain't nothing. And I said, yeah, let's go. That's definitely that right. We go back, we get, we sit down, you know, our chairs, we're cooking our hot dogs and stuff. I call them, boy, but mad. But, you know, Either could see, I'll see here, whoop, over here to the left of us in the swamp, because I got a lot of swamp. And then to the right of us here, whoop, and my little kid, she grabs her phone, you know.

You know, she's going at it, going at it. So I runs in, and she's getting her phone ready, you know, take videos. I runs in and grabs my binocchio that got some Nikon. I was like, oh, my, I couldn't believe it. I comes out there and I'm scanning down through there and she's taking her phone. She says, I hope this is running. She didn't know if she had it on. She's just going like this with her phone.

She doesn't know. I don't even know if it works or whatever. Well, anyway, I'm looking through my boxers. It was probably, because you could see through that slump and there was a little swell with the like cat towels and stuff out there. It's quite a ways of way of it. It's probably about 150 yards in there. I see that big foot.

All I can see is these bun. What? His calves, his feet, his legs, his arms, he's walking away from me. And he's wide and he's big. I mean, he was built like a brick house. I ain't never seen anything built like this. You know. Don't want me. Yeah.

They see, the gorilla has a strength of 10 men. Right. And his Esquots has a strength of 10 guerrillas. Right. Right. Absolutely. That's strong. I'm going to tell you what.

I couldn't believe what I I was like here look hurry up before he walks off because he was big man I mean you could see the bulges in his back the muscles in his back you could see his butt

biggest buts I've ever I mean the muscles it was just crazy and there's calves down here where his feet are they were sticking way out like this and back like a football or not in a football I would say a

basketball, but bigger, you know. It was just massive. This thing was massive. I was like, holy crap. And she's all she just sitting here about herself. That damn camera, I don't know if it's working on a da, da, da, da.

You know, in the meantime, she's scanning this around. And then she's a low-law, I'll have to if I did anything, and she pushes the button, and she's scanning back and forth with this thing, because they were her dumb whoops, you know. And she wasn't, And closer to us, there were these, like, trees that fell over and stuff,

but you can see a little bit of legal anima stuff. Here was the female and the two babies. It ain't real clear, but you could tell there's something there because it wasn't there after the fact. I mean, you know, if you look down it, you could tell what picture she took. It still wouldn't be considered a good picture. No, it was still. That's what it was.

and then she lifted it up with that. I'd be darned, and she didn't get that sticker on camera. I was like, holy crap. She goes, look at the size of that thing. I know it, man. And she won't get off of that. I was like, man, come out. I want a copy of that, you know.

And she won't get off of it. She doesn't have a female or else that every email being a baby picture. Well, that baby pictures are good one, too. That's a good one, too. You can see his face and everything. I know. Oh, so it's the same person has both of those photos that are really good. My sister, my wife's sister.

I got two sisters who lives in the other one. And, man, I was at her house. I ain't going to say what she lives. I only want to mention that. But anyway, I didn't even want to, you know, just, I was having a surer outside of her house. and there would not

they were nothing else but a woodnack here's the thing about that people start after you have an experience they're not looking for that when they don't know about them right right

you know about them you know what's to listen for and look for yeah yeah anyway you know that was another incident there at her house

but I knew what that was I wasn't going to look I was just I'm done here I'm going in the house you know but what other thing I had happened

oh okay when I had that audio that the same time my other sister from floor was up there when we got there I told you about the chair

being gone right the green chair out of the four chairs was gone we could go anywhere well the next day

I come out and I'm splitting with my wood splitter I fires it up it's got a Honda motor on I fires it up and I'm flitting why it is you know it's pretty loud

and super loud because it's a Honda but it's you know it's still making a lot of noise and I'm I just got down maybe two pieces of wood here comes my sister

out of the cabin screaming at me hey hey I go I shut up I was talking what? She's Where'd you find your chair?

I go, what care? I looked down and I said, what the? I'm talking within not even a minute. Where did care come from? She didn't put it there.

I didn't put it there. And Jeff was still on bed. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. I've had shovels. Oh, yeah, they still yeah. Always.

We've been through. Okay. This story here is at the cabin. This is one of the scariest things that ever happened to me. But it was the big foot. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. I'm driving in the driveway to spring.

One year was that. Well, you were fixing in the cabin. No, no, no. It was after it was fixed. I went up there. They check on everything, make sure everything was good. The logs in the driveway? Here are these old logs that I cut, you know, I push them up to the side.

Well, I didn't push them off the side. They dropped them off the side of the driveway. Here they were picked up two in the, you know how you drive up the lane, like a two-track. Two of them this way and then two Chris, because they put an X on the top of it, right by the other path it goes off to the left. And look, what is that?

I get out of the truck and I'm trying, you know, I already know what somebody's trying to block me from coming in. And I was like, and I went to move them things

and I couldn't, because they were soaking wet, there were big poplar trees. I mean, they were long, 10 foot long, and they're hard to move by hand. And I was like,

well, I finally got, I got the smart idea to get on my button to roll them off on my feet, the top ones, rolled them up to the side, then I rolled the other two off, right? And I got through there with my truck. Well, in the meantime, I called my sister, right? And I'm thinking, I saw, after I did this, I called her, I'm hoping and popping and pop up. Man, you ain't going to believe it.

Some side blocking me. You're probably probably. and I got looking up that other road that goes all the way around the property there too. They're still on the ground, a little bit, just, you know, maybe a half inch or so. And I see these footprints from the distance, but I couldn't, you know, I knew they weren't there. I was there. Well, I walked over there.

There's here they are about five and a half feet apart. There are in the ground. There's footprints from Bigfoot. Okay. There ain't nothing else. The has toads. pictures of the baby big foot footprints out back. Well, Mike, I got the one with Mike over here in Ireland, too.

What about the handprint? Who, Mike's got that handprint. Tell them how big that handprint was. It's big. It was like 13 inches long. I don't know why. It was big. That was big.

That's a big one. But anyway, I goes up to the cabin. I'm talking to my sister on the phone. I pulls in, I turn their truck around. and I backs it up towards your door in the cabin. And I was going to put the lights on and they're checking anything out in there. And I stand in there talking to her. And all of a sudden, I hear, whoop, down here to the left.

And then, whoop over by the pipeline, the right of me, that quick. It went, whoop. And the other one went, whoop. And my girl, was, what's that? I goes, what the hell are you thinking? She said, you better get in there. I said, yeah, better. And I hung on the phone.

which I wish I wouldn't have done it. You wouldn't believe what happened to me after that? All of a sudden, I hangs upon up. And I went to go ahead for the truck, and I'm standing there looking to see if I can see these things. And I can't see them. You ever can. All of a sudden, this thing screamed.

So loud, it hurt my ears. I thought they were bleeding. I didn't kid you, it hurt that pat. I had to cover my ear. and they've vibrated my chest, my body, and I can't see it. This is Matt Rogers from Las Culturesis with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is Bowen-Yang from Los Culturiscer with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card and earn up to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash.

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It was bad. I had a headache. It was like, I couldn't believe what happened. I was so scared. I jumped in the truck and still going. I mean, this was over a minute this thing was screaming. And there ain't nobody in his world. I'm all pushing how loud it was.

It was like, I can't explain it. Well, train horns is all I can think of. You get 20 train horns. You go, whoo-oh, then it goes, they start out low, and then it go high-pitched. Like, man, it was just killing me, man. And then I got in the truck. I took off by the creek, and it quit,

and I got by the creek. It opened up again. It rattled my truck. I mean, literally vibrated it. And I have the windows up, But yet it's still allowed as heck, you know. I was like, I come home here with Dean. I said, Dean, I'm not going back.

I'm done. I am done. This is it. That scared me more than seeing one. I ain't kidding you. That thing, that scared me, man. I mean, I was so scared. What, three months later, I finally went back.

Finally. I was scared. All the sightings and stuff I had, that scream. just was beyond stupid. That was stupid. There ain't nothing out there could get that loud out. But that's what it was.

I know exactly what it was. That's exactly what it was. A big foot. What do you think of that one? Guys, man, it just keeps getting wilder and wilder, and it's like this is now one of the areas that is on my radar. I mean, if other people are experiencing the same things that you are up there, guys,

this area has to be just crazy. Oh, it is. Oh, they're them fishermen down there and, what is that, Manistee River, they get rocks throwing at them. All I'm all they get back to Dean, I've got to take a break. Yeah, just so much stuff. The butcher up in Mishik, we go there. It's a grocery store.

But he's got stories, boy, if you can get a hold of him, He said that they're so thick from here. Yeah, from here to Cadillac. He said they're just filthy with a big foot. And, uh, there's a grocery store owner. And yeah. You know, he works there.

He's been here. And, uh, he's got some stories. I mean, and that's why they name because there's a bar there called the Bucks North. And in back of there, I mean, so many people have run into this thing because he goes into trash cans back there. Okay. And the big...

Yeah, so a lot of people have seen them. That's... I mean, like I said, they got a name for the tank. They call them the Marilla Gorilla. And we... Wow. About the egg lady, too. Yeah, the egg lady had...

I mean, yeah, we've had a lot of stuff happening, like, uh... Just so many things. It's, you know... That was bad, but the one that we... The recent one, that was... That was my worst experience. when he was by the trash tank because that was up close and well at the cabin when it looked in my face i was only i got his face when it came down i'm probably only three feet away from my face looking to be

square in the eye square in the eye face to face nobody's going to tell me they don't exist or they look like a man this is gorilla gorilla gorilla you know i've seen one that looked kind of like an orangutan tank too Oh, really? Where was that? That's here. That's here. Really? Yeah. Norm seen one that's like an orangutan down there by the dollar store down the road. And like I said, being a geneticist, like I know that I believe that they can express all the different combinations of different traits of the great eights, all of them. I believe they express all because we found footprints with a thumb on it,

like a chimpanzee or a gorilla would have. Yeah. And like I said, a lot of these dogmen, I believe it's from, if you look up dynopithecus, you'll see this is a prehistoric baboon. I mean, you know, a lot of these people, they don't have no clue what a baboon looks like. You know, it's a dog man. No, it's dynopithecus. just like I believe the holdover of Bigfoot is gigantlepithecus.

You know, I'm sure that's probably common knowledge, but a lot of people don't go in and they don't get into it. Like I'm more into the genetics thing, what makes stuff work and what they come from and, you know, like that. Sure. But then Norm at the cabin, he didn't tell you, but he's seen two of the little ones, and they were playing out there.

They were orange. You look like little monkeys. Oh, wow. So it looked like they were wearing its hands. Yeah. I thought you said there was two of them. Okay. Only one.

Guys. I thought it was a fox squirrel first. Yeah. I was on the aisle and the door open and it was swinging tree to tree. And I got looking at and I was, more like a monkey than a squirrel. And then it came down in this oak tree where I was at probably only about, no, I don't know, probably 20 yards for me. and it came down And when it came found

I know it weighed at least 90 pounds or more It had a tail It This is what it was to me A baboon Exactly like a bad boon I mean It had seen me

It turned and looked at me It took off running out of fours And it was gone In a slickety splice Yeah they are quick man I mean that thing was so fast I was like I told my sister that

do. Looks like we're over time if I could. A little bit. I just got the, I just got the, the peek inside the door saying, yeah, we got to, we got to do errands. But, dude, I don't know if you guys are up for, I would love to talk to, I mean, I have a feeling you guys have more things to share. I don't know. Oh, wow. Yeah. I would love to talk to you again. There's an open to any of the Bigfoot researchers, we put it up every year. You want to come up to see a big foot. You got to do it, I come up in my cabin one time and you will believe.

Is there a way people can contact you? And they, well, they've been every year. Yeah, through you. You can email me. They get a hold of us through you. You know, you got my email. They want to, because we're not going to give our number out or nothing. Right.

You know, they got to be serious and they got to have, you know, Right. You tell them what are out in the yard? Huh? Oh, yeah, we got a big foot statue out in the yard. And it's one of those realistic looking ones and there's Bigfoot footprints going to him. That's hilarious.

That's hilarious. So, no, we can't share an email or anything, Dean. No, I'd rather, you know, if they get a hold of you, and then you can email me and then we'll set up a contact. But they got to be serious. They've got to have equipment. You know, I don't want just anybody coming up here, you know. All right.

Yeah. All right. But, guys, man, this has been just an incredible conversation about an area that I had no idea. But, you know, yeah, we got to talk again. Guys, if you want to, you know, you can use that whenever you feel like you can. You've got the link still. You can set up another time. I would love to talk to you again in the future sometime. I got your email.

I just, yeah. and feel free to you can pass on my info to you know any of these other people you know up there like the guy working at the grocery store you said or whoever that would be pretty cool Well, we've got friends around here, too, that have had experiences. Yeah. I can tell you stories to a boom. Yeah, lots of stories. Oh, man. No, we're definitely going to be talking again, guys.

Dean and Norm, you guys are awesome. Thank you so much for spending some time with me this afternoon and sharing what you've been going through. I appreciate it. Thank you, too. Bless. All right. We'll be in touch, guys, okay?

All right. That was good. Yep, we'll see ya. I just wanted to say, thank you truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Dean and Norm's stories are powerful reminder

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