Bigfoot Society - Something Was Watching Us on Mount Mitchell!

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

What happens when a Navy veteran and his friends take a late-night drive into the snowy wilderness of Mount Mitchell — and stumble across massive footprints that shouldn’t exist?In this intense and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Greg Zapp, who shares the story of a spontaneous 1993 trip into the remote North Carolina mountains that turned into a brush with the unexplained. With snow piling up and no one else around for miles, Greg and his friend found themselves face-to-face with 18-inch tracks in untouched snow — and the eerie sense that something was watching from the trees.You’ll hear what happened as they raced back down the mountain, grabbed a camcorder, and returned to document the tracks. You’ll also hear how that night changed Greg’s understanding of the world — and why Mount Mitchell remains one of the East Coast’s best-kept secrets in the world of Sasquatch sightings.This isn’t just a story about what they saw — it’s about what followed them home in memory, and why they can never forget it.Featuring real locations like Buck Creek Campground, Little Switzerland, Fire Tower Road, and the Blue Ridge Parkway — this one will make locals listen twice and skeptics think twice.Resources:BFRO report: https://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=3339🎉 Sasquatch Summerfest 2025Mark your calendars! Sasquatch Summerfest is happening July 11–12, 2025, and it’s going to be epic.Special Offer for Listeners:Get a 2-day ticket for the price of 1 using code BFS (like Bigfoot Society) at checkout.Big thanks to Priscilla for hooking us up!👉 Grab your tickets now at: www.sasquatchsummerfest.com🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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just back from service, who took a snowy drive into the mountains of western North Carolina and came back, changed forever. No cell phones, no internet, just a 1993 night on Mount Mitchell, a Jeep, a few friends, and something waiting in the snow. Massive footprints, deer frozen in place, and the undeniable feeling that they weren't alone out there. They didn't go looking for Bigfoot, but something was already watching them. This is the story of Greg Zapp in the night the mountains went silent. Stay with us. Hi, Bigfoot Society.

We've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Greg Zapp today. Greg is an individual I got connected to over on the X or Twitter platform. Some people might know it as. And we got to talking. It turns out Greg has some interesting things that have happened over the years. We're glad to have Greg on the show here. And how's it going today, Greg? Very well, Jeremiah.

Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. Absolutely, sir. Well, you know, I want to make sure that we have the, the time for you to share what you experienced after, you know, we were just talking about, we got a little blizzard coming in here in Iowa, but I think we're going to make it through.

But, you know, feel free to take it from here, sir, and take us back to when this all started happening for you. Sure thing. I grew up in the West North Carolina Mountains just under Mount Mitchell. And anyone familiar with the area knows, they closed the parkway after, about around Halloween they used to close it because it started getting heavy snows past a little Switzerland all the way up to Mount Mitchell and then down on the other side going into Asheville usually about the Weaverville where you pop off the parkway and go into Weaverville the backway that's usually where the gate is open again or the parkway opens up down south to Asheville. my friends and I, we used to love to go to Buck Creek Campground.

Buck Creek Campground is right off of 80, right off the Parkway going up to Mount Mitchell. It's Carolina Hemlocks, that area. And it has a road at the back of the campground that goes to the parkway. Sometimes that gate is open in winter and sometimes it's not. I haven't been there in years. I don't know what the status of it is. now. When it would rain in Marion and Spruce Pond, wherever we happened to be that night, and it was 35, 36 degrees, we would always go up to Mount Mitchell and see if we'd go hang out

in snow. We never gave two thoughts to anything else other than seeing snow. That was our entire purpose for going up there. So we've done this several times over the years. I've just gotten out of the military. It's March of 93, and it was 34, 35 degrees, rain and down in Marion, I was visiting my friend. I wasn't quite out of the military, but I was really close. And he said, as usual, let's go Mount Mitchell. Let's see if we can get up to the top of Mount Mitchell. Okay, no problem.

We're getting his Jeep. He had a CJ7, very good at driving in the snow. Because when you go to the parkway and there's nobody there, you're the only one in and out, right? So I know the whole night, nobody came behind us. I'm skimming ahead, sorry. That night we left, we went to Bucks Creek, we got there, went to the back road, got up to the parkway, the gate was open.

Not an issue. Got on the parkway, three, four inches of snow. It took us probably till 1030, 1045 at night. It took us about an hour to get up there from Marion. It wasn't that bad. At the top, they, you know, You usually have a gate that closes off going to the welcome center and the campground because it splits off in a couple. There's the one road that goes to Mount Mitchell, one way in, one way out, up to the top of Mount Mitchell from the parkway.

That probably mile and a half road is where we had our whatever happened. We go all the way to the top, or excuse me, we go as far as we can before the gate, right before the welcome center, the gates close. around in some snow drifts because right there is where the snowdrifts come over. Goof, got in the Jeep, came back down the hill. As we're coming down the hill, I've got it marked on a GPS spot. And when you take out the trees, you're able to see how it was in 1993, 32 years ago. It's flat right off the road, but then there's an embankment that goes up. And of course, the hill, the mountain continues going up because you're coming down the mountain at that point, just a little bit.

We come around the right turn, and there's deer, deer tracks, deer jumping around. We get out, we look at the deer tracks. Oh, that's cool. It's my friend and I, he's driving. I'm in the passenger side. We go probably a quarter mile. We see those deer, deer tracks, get out, look. That's great.

get back in the Jeep, go down again. I see more tracks, but it looks a little bit different. And I told my friend to stop. He said, no, I'm not going to stop. It's just deer track. And he stopped. I got out. He said I instantly turned white.

White as a sheet. I felt immediately frozen. I just froze. I couldn't move. I was astounded, stunned. and what was there was a huge footprint bear. There know the tracks. Nobody knew we were going up there.

It could have been a hoax, absolutely 100%. But I'm telling you, nobody knew we were there. I didn't give the crap about Bigfoot. I never gave two thoughts to it, never in my life. And I can just, I can still see it. So I jumped, ran back to the Jeep, and he said, what's wrong? Because I was telling him, Googie, get out of here, get out of here, get out of here. He said, what, he stopped. He got out. He went. He looked. And I saw him, his face. He turned white.

White is his sheet. He come running back in, jumped in the Jeep. We took off. And it took about 10 seconds. Wait, wait, wait, wait, somebody is messing with us. Somebody is having, somebody's hoaxing us. There's a ranger up here. He's, you know, he's messing with us. Somebody, this can't be real. This has got to be a joke. We turn back around. We go back up to the clearing. We only went maybe 100 yards down the road before we stopped and turned around. So we'd get out.

We look. And that whatever it was with no shoes whose feet were 18 inches, 16, 17 inches long in the snow, was standing there with the deer. So he had a spotlight. He took the spotlight and went up in the tree line above us and eyes flashed. And I about crap my pants. It was deer. But still, it was kind of funny.

It was like, oh, shit. And it was deer. But seeing that, they were still there. And I thought that, I thought that whatever was with the deer and whatever was watching over was watching us. And it was just, you just got a funny, funny, funky feeling. So, and looking at what the deer did, they went up one way up the embankment, but whatever was standing there watching, get this. So you can plainly see it goes uphill. Now, we did go back down and grab a video camera and come back up.

And I'll get to that in a minute because we had to document the strides of how far this, whatever it was, traveled. Because you can't, I couldn't hoax it, no matter how much. which I tried. The area was a little flat, goes up a hill, up a small embankment. So it had one foot at the bottom of the embankment. Its left foot was at the bottom. Its right foot was in the middle of the hill, but its right foot was pointed towards the road,

and its left foot was just above it pointed towards the woods going straight uphill. Okay? So as we, looked and discovered the position of everything. We think that we were so freaking close to seeing him eye to eye when we came around the corner because his foot was pointing at the truck coming around the corner. He was watching us come around. And then he jumped one more step up on top of the embankment, and then he took off through the woods. So one at the bottom, two in the middle, one at the top.

I went over probably five, seven feet left of him and did my best to get up the hill. And there's a foot of snow. There's more than a foot of snow at this point because this was an hour later and on top of Mount Mitchell. So we stayed there a pretty good while and it snowed pretty hard. It took me 18 steps to get up that embankment. I'm six foot to 210 pounds and I was a heck of an athlete. still am. I'm close to several, yeah, I'm not a, not a lazy person by any means. So whatever it was, had zero problem climbing up that hill in three steps. And that would

have been impossible for me in the dry land if it was flat. Impossible for me. Maybe not somebody else but me, let alone in over a foot of snow. So we haul out back down the mountain, grab the video camera, grab our other friend, Jeff. Jeff comes with us. We all get up there and he's thinking it's a hoke. We're telling them the truth. This is it. This is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

We get up there. We film it. We filmed the whole site. It had snowed a little bit. It was a little rough. I mean, this is 1993, so it's not 4K ultra vision. But my friend has downloaded that to Google. And you get a sense of you can see where it went up the hill and went up the embankment

and how big the size of the prints were compared to my shoe. and I was wearing a size 12 boot at the time, and it just was one and a half the size of mine. Five distinct toes, huge. Man, it was huge. And it sank all the way down, you know. I did not, even at 210, 220, I didn't sink all the way down, but it did. We filmed it and put it on Google, forgot about it.

My friend found the tape after his mother passed. I found it in the garage, and ever since then, I've been fascinated with it. I never gave it two seconds thought. It's just not been my thing. But ever since then, I can't help but think how close we came to seeing one. And how it really changed my view on a lot of things. But it was pretty cool. Either somebody pulled a really good hoax or we saw something up there that was unexplainable at the time.

Wow, Greg. That is, man, it's one of those stories where it's like, so, so close, man. But it sounded like it really did change. the rest of your life. Did you get involved with trying to go out again and have another close encounter after this at all? Well, I sure did. As long as I was in the area, I always would go to Mount Mitchell. That's where I proposed to my wife. I would always ride my motorcycle up there. It's just a really special place because there's nobody around from miles. What you don't understand is when you get to Mount Mitchell, there are no businesses, there are no homes, there are no streets,

there are no turrets, there are no lights, none of that. And it's completely shut off in the winter. So there's nothing there, and it racked my brain on who or what could that do. Now, we did, in the summertime, we went back up to speak to a ranger. And I said, hey, have you ever had, and I asked him just a roundabout question, you know. And I said, we came up here in the winter and saw something rather questionable. and he kind of looked at us kind of funny. Like, what do you mean questionable?

And I said, well, you know, we just saw tracks. And he said, really big tracks. And I said, yeah, and he just kind of chuckled and didn't say anything else about it. I've never had another experience. I've never come close. I've never heard anything. You know, I never did before. I never did after.

But I certainly do look, listen. and thinker-thunker's one of my, he's one of the guys that I love to listen to his reason and his logic and how he breaks it down. And I've always had something of that nature in me. And we actually have a friend who says, if he ever sees Bigfoot, he's going to shoot him. And I said, if you shoot him, I'm going to shoot you.

We kind of go back and forth at it, but we thought it'd be a good reality show to take him out and see if we couldn't find one. But, you know, it's something that I just believe as wholeheartedly is there. We don't know everything that's on this place. And that's very, I don't know, it's very grandiose if we think we know everything that's going on. So I try and leave an open mind and who knows what's out there.

Oh, I agree 100%. You know, you always see the reports of what new animals are discovered in the year and all the things down the rainforest. And I don't think it's out of the question to, you know, think we've got something in, North America as well that we still haven't been down yet. That's what my hope is. But is this footage available to watch anywhere?

Well, I'm 100% sure I can get it for my friend. I mean, he did download it to Google Drive and he sent it to me. I since moved. And let me look real quick, because I might have it if I can. I can just note to you now.

I did Google Earth the location. And you can certainly see what I'm talking about, where we come around the corner. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Sometimes, you know, people I talk to, they actually have, you know, video. And I've started to actually put it in some of the more recent episodes. I mean, if it's something where you would be up for that or if not, that's, that's fine, too. I can always just.

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weird things like what happened to you guys? Oh yeah, that's, it's pretty much in Bakersville towards the Rome, they have the same thing and people are, a lot of people are putting up their their trail cams or ring footage, you know, and they're getting some really funky stuff in the woods at night. The closest one that we have here is Little Switzerland, and Fire Tower Road, they have a couple of people that have been there for generations, you know, a few hundred years, a couple of hundred years, probably.

And this guy swears up and down that Bigfoot comes up, Takes his food, takes his trash, runs through it because of what he does. And it's pretty funny because it's something that I could get behind hearing the guy speak, you know? I'm just thinking, yeah, I can see this. And you do get a lot of questionable footage as to what that is. People hunting. The big one is the North Carolina hunter in Thanksgiving. I'm sure you've had to have seen this footage.

but he's in a tree stand and one comes underneath him and he's in Bakersville which is seven, eight miles away from us and it's crazy what went right underneath him huge and hooping like an owl

or excuse me like a monkey I believe I know the one you're talking about so do you know the individual that was involved with that or just it's one that gets passed I do not yeah it's just one that gets past I know

I know several people that claim they have it on their, their ring cam. And it's just, you got to, you got to wonder what's, what's out there because anything's possible. So, I just kind of realize what you said.

So you know actual people that have, like the ring cam where you just have it on your back door and they've captured stuff. Yes. Oh, man. That's nuts, dude. I wonder if a ring cam has IR. I know, I'm trying to think somebody else said the reason

what I was hearing over what I've heard, and I'm not sure which one is which, but it seems to be somewhat true. They have a trouble, or excuse me, they don't have a problem seeing infrared light, but a man in Texas was with a sniper scope inside of his house and he said

every time he was inside using his scope and using IR he could see him but when he went outside he couldn't and he thinks that they have some they have some way of detecting what light I don't know I think anything is possible at this point

it's just blown my mind and I've vacationed in Siberia traveled there several times lived in Japan and they just know it's a fact it's just something that lives out in the wild the wild man and it's you you want to talk about they talk about the almasi that's him yeah yeah they they yeah they they yeah they don't have any problem saying yeah we know it is we leave me alone yeah exactly i uh this is years and years ago but i interviewed a lady her name is jacky tonics

she's a researcher from the ukk and she would go to that area, you know, Siberia and Russia and looking for the Al Mastie. And it was so funny that the farmers were just like totally confused. They were like, why are you guys spending all this time and money looking for something that obviously exists and we see it all the time? It was just the craziest thing to them. So I thought that was the coolest thing ever. But yeah, it just goes to show you its perspective.

But when you're in some of these areas like like, like, say, Siberia or Japan. So you were talking to people over there like, okay, what kind of weird stuff you guys got over here or things like that? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm a cold and snow guy. I've always been a cold and snow guy, which is why we would go up to Mount Mitchell. It was never about Bigfoot or anything else. It was just cold snow. So one of my places I've always wanted to go with Siberia. And when I got there, I'd already had my incident. So I asked around when I was there, I was there. there, Greg, everyone knows this exists. Why you ask, you know, common knowledge, like not even a big deal. Oh, wow. Was there any conversation like that over in Japan at all?

Any weirdness over there? Yeah, you know, Japan doesn't, they don't have, I think that's one of the few places that does not have some kind of force giant. But they still have the Kappa, which. is a stream, I don't know how to, I don't know how to describe it, but it's a, it's a weird animal sprite kind of, I don't know, man, I've never had any of those experiences. Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't forget them. Yeah, but I never heard of Bigfoot or anything like that being in Japan. I think, I think Turtle Sprite is probably a good way to put it.

It's a weird, it's a weird crypt. I remember reading and seeing about it in Lauren Coleman's Museum out in Maine. And there's some weird stuff. You know, listeners can do some research, check that out if you want. But it's interesting. Japanese cryptic culture is a interesting time. But, you know, based off of this, okay, so a few things. This area, this Mount Mitchell area, first off, was it?

Was it hit pretty hard by the hurricane that went through a few years ago? I would imagine six months ago. Yeah. I would imagine it was, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it was last September. Backer all. Yeah.

So it's, I would imagine they got hit, but, man, that place gets storms all the time. So it's nothing new from Mount Mitchell. But there's not many people up there. I think actually it was worse at lower elevation. I don't know. I could be wrong. But it's the perfect place for one to be, if you think about it. In the area you are in the area I am and where I am,

it's the only place where there isn't a population of people anywhere. There's nobody there. You know, that's what gets me is the fact there's no one around. nobody knew we were going there that night we didn't even know we were going there that night and that happened it's it's it's just confusing are there any um any stories or legends to get passed down in this area about them do you think this is a creature that's been seen for for quite a while yeah when you go back and look in north carolina the um in this area it's since the early 1970s one lady here in

Bakersville, which is the next town over I mentioned before. Same thing, she saw one through her backyard and for about a couple of weeks there in 19, I don't know what year it was, 71, 72, there were a lot of sightings in Bakersville like there was

one that was just, you know, walking around. But it's sporadic at best. And I always thought the best place to have to do a recon, do a research with be Mount Mitchell because there's just nothing there but you know you've got to stay in the winter time get special permits and be allowed to stay there camp there for a couple of weeks because you're not just going to walk up on something it has to find you you're not going to we're not

going to find it you know we all know if it's going to find you it'll find you but I'm not going to be able to track something down like that there's no way no I agree with you know people think that they're going to do some some sneaking up on it you're not going to do the moment that you're in that area like it's it already knows it knows it knows it knows it's it's very interesting to see how many

they have the Bigfoot Festival of Marion every year I think that's coming up in May and they all they always have that and my friends have we've talked about it for years about telling our story, but I don't tell many people. I just don't. You know, that's not,

I tell a few people, few of my good friends know. And a lot of my good friends don't because I don't. It's not that I'm embarrassed. I just didn't. It was tough to tell people because they instantly think you're pulling their leg or you're full of crap, you know,

and it's just, it's, I don't need that attention. It's kind of, it's unsettling to realize there's something there that could snap me in half. And I'm just, I don't know, I was really, yeah, I was frequently aware. And my, I still, to this day, my hair stands up and I can remember it instantly. You know, it's, it's something that you don't forget. Never want to.

Did you guys send in a report to the BFRO? My buddy did. He gave the same report to the North Carolina Bigfoot researchers, and he sent it to me. He said, hey, here's what I wrote. And, you know, we've never collaborated or collaborated or told stories. It's everybody, all four of us have the version. And it's just, it's pretty cool to hear them tell their side of the story. because from what they saw, their perspective, you know,

we all had that different view, but Marty made us take him up there the next day, and we took him up there and showed him, and he was completely blown away, because the tracks were still there, and nothing left, you know, and the snow stopped. So it was preserved for quite some time. It's, there's some interest, it's very,

so this is such a cool example. example of I love it when there's a person I'm talking to but then there's a report but the report is from a different person in the same party it is so cool just because there's different ways of looking at things and sometimes there's other details for example you know the he does call out the length of the tracks are about 14 inches long but also is seven inches wide which is a really interesting detail for him to throw in. Interesting.

Wow, so you're looking at it right there. Oh, yeah, yeah, I got it right there. So the years, the years have grown. The fish has gotten bigger. Would I say like 16 or 16 or 17 inches? Well, I mean, and that's, I don't think, you know. Could have been dependent upon a track as well. I mean, a different track, a different spot, snow melt, several issues.

years. And that's the thing is it's like, you know, I've, I've experienced this myself personally. I just being out in Oregon, because I didn't make notes, like, I can't, I found tracks way out in the woods. And I would have to say they were either 15 or 16 inches. I can't say 100% because I didn't write it down. That was just this last July. So, um, wow. Another cool thing is that he does say that, uh, they're four wheeling in a Jeep.

no one in the vehicle had a drop to drink any time that evening, which is a, that's actually a super huge detail. And I was still in the Navy, so I couldn't, I couldn't be a part of any drugs or any type of none of that. And my mother was hit by a drunk driver, so I never drank and drive. I never. I still don't drink to this day. I just don't. Sorry to hear that. Yeah.

Yeah, that is, you know, it's funny how you mentioned. what you had said to the Ranger because you know I hear you hear just different versions of that but it's almost like the guy is saying

in his mind you know come come back when I'm retired you know we'll have a chat because right you would have you wouldn't even believe the stuff that I've experienced and heard up up here but

I can only imagine I bet those guys I see all kinds of stuff. After the hurricane happened, this is just off to the side. I don't even know if I'll leave this in, but did you hear any stories going around of people having sightings after the hurricane hit up there? I did not. Okay. That's something I should have everyone once in a while because I did have someone reach out to me once.

I used to do a call-in show. And actually, it was weird, man. They reached out during the call-in show, and they were sharing about how they had left their house, and there were like these volunteers that come in to try to help out. They weren't there. The homeowners, and they were finding all sorts of stuff. And then as she's sharing all this, the phone gets disconnected,

and I couldn't get back in touch with her. I was like, oh. Oh, that kind of thing makes you wonder. It happens a lot to me, actually. Yeah, it's pretty wild stuff. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultureistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is Bowen-Yang from Los Culturisters with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card in an end up to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash.

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so it would probably be 55, 60 miles of nothing on a one way in, one way out road, right? Just one road. There are no branches. There are no other subroads except for the occasional fire road. And that's the state park. So I don't know the exact square mileage of that state park, but nobody's there, no businesses, no homes, nothing. It's not allowed. Man, that's the kind of thing that makes you wonder because, yeah, okay, you got like 40, 50 miles.

That's a nice little piece of land, especially for the East Coast where something could just hang out and not have to worry. Yeah, especially since you're saying it's a one way in. one way out road. So very easy to keep an eye on for sure. I really think it would be worth the effort to have some type of reconnaissance or show up in Mount Mitchell and just have the ability to stay there for a couple of weeks. I think you could get a really good surprising result. It's not a well-known place.

People don't really go looking for it up there, that kind of thing. So, you know, the less it's sought after, I guess, maybe the better off it is at remaining hidden. I don't know. It's kind of a test 22. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it can get so interesting because it's like, as humans, and I guess I'm just speaking for myself, I mean, we have that curiosity if there is, you know, living in a culture where we have so much information and we think we have all the information in the world.

And then if you find out, no, there's this big thing where you guys have no idea what's going on. I think it just eats at us as a culture and we're like, no, we have to know exactly what's going on. and then another side you have to think, is it really the best or whatever's going on if we go in there and mess it up? I don't know, man. Yeah, I'm a little, I would be a little weary of doing that. Just do, why mess up his home?

I mean, if it is, and this is a species, I think, why he doesn't deserve that. You know, I can let it exist without having that issue, but it's something I'd love to see and I'd love to get more into. Absolutely. The other individuals that, other individuals that were with you in the Jeep, did this affect them at all either? Did they start becoming really interested in the subject or not so much?

Yeah, they do. And we still, you know, we still talk about it and make jokes about it and send Bigfoot stuff to each other all the time. It's funny, but, you know, we all have our own lives. We lead our lives, but still none of us stopped everything and became a complete, you know, big photaholic. But we certainly have, yeah, the ability to turn it on and listen and be aware of other stories and encounters because it makes, it all tells a story when you start putting them all together that this many people can't be in on something like that. It's just, it's too convenient. It's too easy.

And this kind of show, you know, it will bring out other people that have had things happen. And the way that you're talking about this area, like there have been other people that have had stuff happen. I guarantee it. Like, it is just a really perfect area. You know, I'm sure that you've played over that night a lot over the years. You probably, you know, thought of it a few times. is there, if you could go back to that time, is there anything that you would choose to do differently or have things play out as, as they did? You know, I went up, when I went up the embankment, I followed through the woods a little bit.

I went through, I don't know, maybe 25, 30 feet. And I can still see the light from the Jeep down at the bottom. but it stepped it took one step and then it cleared a branch that was about four feet high and it was three or four feet on the other side of it

you know and I had to go under it and I just remember looking up at the trees and the snow was cleared eight feet now whether or not it was using its hands when it was walking through or its head or whatever the case was I just thought man I really don't need what am I going to do

what am I going to do if I stop and see it? You know, crap my pants and then what's going to happen then? So I'm going to have to ride home with that. I can't think of anything else I would do different other than I wish I just really, part of me wants to go back and just arrive five seconds earlier with the lights off and bang, turn him on and see what he looked like. just see what it looked like you know just

was it white was it dark brown was it red was it black was he you know what was he because he lives up on Mount Mitch when it snows all the time did he have whiter skin or whiter hair grayer hair whatever the case may be

it's it's it's something I would love to have seen maybe it would have affected me different the cool thing is that you are you know, still going up there at different times of the year. When you're up there, do you ever hear any noises that don't belong or smell anything out of the ordinary when you're up there? I know, I don't. And the only few times that I've really stopped and, you know, listened, I think to myself, am I doing this? Am I wanting something? Am I wanting to hear something?

Am I going to make up in my mind that I did hear something this time? You know what mean because it was so far-fetched for us to see anything like that whatsoever the odds are just through the room that that would happen and it's yeah i i want to say yeah i grew something but i've never i never have never seen anything never even come close never heard anything it's crazy it's just that one time and boom been looking ever since the really cool thing though about this this whole thing is that you do have footage of what happened it sounds like. And so often, you know, people that share their encounters, it's just, it's just a memory they have. But you have something tangible if it's still, you know, if it still exists, you have something tangible that

proves that. He's going to send it. You were there. So I'll email it to you. Yeah. So make sure you send me an email and I'll email it to you. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that was the telltale sign because he said, my friend said, nobody's going to believe us. We've got to go home and get the video camera. We've got to go get the video camera. We've got to go get the video camera. And he loved cameras. So bang, we went, I'll go now instantly. We went down so fast. And then it was raining by the time we got the Buck Creek. So we were able to make it down the mountain pretty quick. man that would be very interesting uh well i'll get you that information so we can hopefully you'll be able to get sent over and then maybe we can even put it in this this video we'll see if i can get all the tech stuff to work out but but gregg it's been it's been a real fun time chatting with you i want to make sure is there anything else that that you wanted to uh to to share or make sure you share before we uh we uh finish out our conversation today

Nothing I can think of. Nothing I can think of. I just, if you're out and about, just stay alert and stay vigilant. And I think if you do come across something, I really believe it has the ability to know our intentions and know our thoughts. And I've always kept a happy mind on those trails so that, you know, there's no issue. And I make sure I'm not invading someone else's space. It should be respectful, right?

No matter what it is, you can at least be respectful. absolutely well thank you so much for for chatting uh it's been a pleasure to join with you i appreciate it jeremiah you have yourself a great day sir i just wanted to take a moment to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of the bigfoot society podcast gregg's story is one of those rare encounters that sticks with you not just because of what was found in the snow but because of how close it came to being something more huge thanks to gregg for sharing his memories from that chilling night on Mount Mitchell and for reminding us that sometimes the unexplained finds you when you least expect it. If you enjoyed this conversation, please subscribe on YouTube to us. Hit that bell icon so you don't

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