Bigfoot Society - Sounds Like a T-Rex Up Here! | Georgia

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Join host Jeremiah Byron from Bigfoot Society for an enthralling episode featuring Ed, a U.S. Army veteran and former police officer, who shares his extraordinary Bigfoot encounters from various locat...ions. Ed's background as a trained observer provides a unique perspective on his experiences, which range from eerie wood knocks in Georgia's Chattahoochee National Forest to unexplained lights in the woods and mysterious scat in Washington State. Along the way, Ed recounts spine-chilling events that have left him questioning the existence of these elusive creatures. Don't miss as Ed reveals the strange happenings that could suggest Bigfoot is closer than we think.Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:58 on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Ed today. Ed's an individual that reached out to me after he stumbled upon the Bigfoot Society YouTube channel and he has some interesting things to share from his past years. So Ed, welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Thank you. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. You know, we've got some really interesting ground to cover today, Ed. And you do actually have a very interesting background as well. And, you know, we were talking about that a little bit before the show started. I'd love if you could spend a few minutes kind of sharing about that background. And I think it plays in very well with the other things that you'll be sharing right afterwards.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Right. Okay. not to go too deep into the weeds, but I was right after high school when I was 19, I joined the Army. I was in the infantry for about eight and a half years. And the reason I think that's important is because I'm a United States government trained observer.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm a desert storm veteran. And my job was to destroy enemy tanks. And so I know how to look for things that are trying to hide from me very well either the eyes binoculars thermal scopes all that kind of that's what i did for eight and a half years is is look for things to shoot basically um as far as the desert storm thing goes i didn't have any big foot anything happened out there but i did have some uh some other things that are kind of related i'm not sure it had something to the balls of light um after getting out of the army
Starting point is 00:03:50 I was I returned to Hawaii. I was stationed in Hawaii in the Army, so I went back over there for other reasons. And I became a police officer over there. And I was a police officer for 25 and a half years. And if anybody is a trained observer in this world, it's police officers. They see things that other people will never see.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Just driving down the road. I tell my wife, did you see that? see that guy? You see that? And nobody ever sees it. And they're like, how do you see all this stuff? I was like, you know, it's, you can't unlearn it. And then, uh, the last thing that I, I'd like to throw in there as far as my, you know, being able to see things. I'm, I've a licensed private pilot. And, um, you constantly have to look for things. I mean, yeah, you're up in the air. You're not going to see big foot in the air, but you're constantly looking for anything and everything. And then if you're playing, you've got to look on the ground too for places to land
Starting point is 00:04:53 just in case the plane craps out. So they're constantly looking for this kind of stuff. So and on top of that, I've been in the woods ever since I was a kid. I grew up just south of Atlanta. And I retired back in 2017 and moved up here to North Georgia. I live in Towns County, right outside of a little beady town called Hayawasi. And I live up here on 10 acres on the side of a mountain. I got like two neighbors. And if it's summertime, I can't even see them. So that's basically my background.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I just turned 61 this month. So, you know, I get out in the woods as much as much as I can, but I'm not up and down these mountains like it would be when I was a kid. I'm going to go kind of in a reverse chronological order of what has, why I'm on there here today. And I'm going to go from the latest one back to back in time years ago, if that's all right with you. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:14 So when I retired in 2017 and we moved up here about a year, so maybe 2018, I took up turkey hunting. And for the other guys up here, they're listening, you know, turkey hunting is one of the hardest, that's one of the hardest animals there is to kill. I mean, you got to be just sit there and be completely still. And most of the places that I turkey hunt up here are within the challenge. Chattahoochee National Forest. So the Chattahoochee National Forest is, of course, regulated by the federal government. And within the national forest are things called wildlife management areas. And those are maintained and regulated by the state of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So the main one that I hunt in up here, and it's only about five, six miles away from my house, really, as a crow flies. it's called the Swallow Creek WMA and I finally killed a turkey this past year in 2024 in right at the end of the season which was I think May so
Starting point is 00:07:26 right say May 15th was the end of the season May 16th they start it's I think it's called a fox and bobcat or a fox and hog or something like that anyway for the last two weeks of the month you can hunt
Starting point is 00:07:43 you know fox and bobcats and if there's anything in season you can hunt hogs and I like to hunt hogs so I went back up to this food plot where I had killed my turkey now this food plot is on the end of a road it's called Mill Creek Road it's one way
Starting point is 00:08:00 in and it's one way out it's a gravel road and it's two miles up to the end where I was hunting and so the reason I tell you that is when I drove in, I went up there that day to look for pig signs or whatever. And there was nobody else up there. Because there's not really anywhere you could hide a vehicle. You can barely pull off the road at some of these little spots they have for you to park at the food plots.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And there was no other vehicles on that road that day. And it was probably, oh, I don't know, three, four in the afternoon. It was a nice day, sunny day. And I went up there. And I had my AR-15, just in the case I run across the pig. And you could drive almost up onto this field. It's about 100 meters, 100 yards in either direction. And this field is in between two ridge lines. There's one that's the closest mountain top is maybe an eighth of a mile north of the field. And then there's another one about a quarter of a mile away.
Starting point is 00:09:11 and there's no trails or anything going up off of this field. It's, I mean, as thick as peanut butter up there. I've heard some of your other guests on here from North Georgia talk about the mountain laurel, and if you want to get through it, you've got to crawl under it. Well, they're not lying. That stuff is thick. And so I was up there, and I didn't see any signs of hogs or anything, which is another point.
Starting point is 00:09:41 that I need to come back to later, but while I'm standing there, from the closest bridge line, I hear just out of the blue two consecutive wood knocks. And the only way I can describe it is this, somebody was up there, had a Louisville slugger baseball bat or something, and just, you know, whack the hardwood tree like, twice as hard as they could.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And I'm just standing there in shock because honestly all my life I had been like on the fence about the whole Bigfoot thing and I'm just thinking myself, oh my God, did I just hear what I thought it hurt? And about 10 seconds later
Starting point is 00:10:31 on the other ridge, which I said it's got to be a quarter mile away. I hear another knock, a return knock, an answer sort of. It wasn't as loud because it was shorter away, but it was a knock and so I just stood there for a minute and just I was in shock basically because I've been hunting up there for several years and I've been all around the world and like I said I kind of
Starting point is 00:10:58 didn't really know what to believe about this but I I heard this and I'm thinking there's there's no trails going up there I didn't see any trucks or cars on my way up there so there I mean Could it have been a person up there? Maybe, technically, I guess, but they would have had to hike all the way up the road for two miles, and then they would have had to hike for the better part of a day, at least to get up there. And then their buddy that answered the call would have had to hike. I don't know how long they'd take you to that other location because there's nothing over there. I mean, they have signs on the side of the road that says wilderness area.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And they're not kidding. It's seriously thick. I'm betting nobody's been over there since the Native Americans, probably, because most of the guys that hunt out here, they're like me, and they're kind of lazy. They don't want to bust Bush anymore than after. That's why we hunt on these big fields that the state makes for us. You know, you could just walk around out there and sit on the edge of them.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So to get up there and to just randomly, I don't know if you're be hoaxing somebody or what, but I just can't believe that people would have walked all the way up there. They would have had to take backpacks and stayed up there for the night because there's no way they're going to get down that mountain in the dark like that. There's just no way. So I'm just standing there in shock like, what else could it be? The only other big thing that lives out there that would have the strength to do that,
Starting point is 00:12:40 would be a bear and you know they can't hold a stick like that and beat on the side of a tree so i was just in shock and i decided to uh get my truck and leave so i got my my truck and i went home and i told my wife about it quiet and um she doesn't really care that much about it and uh so the next day i go down to the dump nearby to dump my trash. And there's a gentleman that works there, and he's always been working there. And so I thought, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:23 if anybody knows what's going on up here, maybe this guy, so I asked him, and said, hang out, how long have you lived here? He goes, I've lived here all my life. And I said, have you, do you go out and hunting fish? He goes, yeah, I used to quite a bit. So I ask him the same question I asked everybody. I said,
Starting point is 00:13:41 so what's the weirdest thing you've ever seen out? And before I could finish it, he goes, I've seen Bigfoot. And my jaw just dropped. And I was like, what? And he said, I was driving up to Hazel, North Carolina the other day.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And I seen this thing walking through this guy's yard. And he went on to tell me about it. And I thought, oh, my God. And then he tells me that he's seeing these giant tracks right outside the dump over here. That dumps only like three miles from my house. That kind of gave me the chills. I was like, oh, that's just great because right across from my property here is National Forest.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I mean, hundreds and hundreds of acres of. I can just sit there and look across and nobody lives up there because it's national forest. So I was like, oh, my God, this is the only guy I've talked to that has, you know, told me they've seen stuff like that. later that day, I couldn't stand it. I just, I had to go back up there just for my own, you know, I don't know why. I just felt like I felt the need to go back up there. And the funny thing is I took a couple of apples with me.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I thought, you know, I'll just put them on a stump up there in case they're watching and just let them know that I'm a good guy. And please don't try and kill me when I'm out hunting. I'm not here to mess with you. So I'm driving back up that road again, Mill Creek Road. and I get within about 20 yards of the little turnoffer I need to go up to that field. And now there is a tree bent across the road, not broken, not blown down by the roots or anything. I mean, it was bent.
Starting point is 00:15:26 That tree had to be as big around as my leg. I think I sent you a picture of it. I stopped right there, and I was like, what the world is this? This wasn't here yesterday when I left. And there was no, you know, rough weather overnight or anything. It was just, you know, calm. It was spring weather. We didn't have any windstorms.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And none of the other trees around this tree were molested or touched. They were all fine. And the base of this tree where it was growing had to be a good, I don't know, 10, 12 feet off the road down the side of the hill. And it stretched all across the road. So I got to see how this thing is being held in place. And the funny thing is there was nothing holding this tree down. It looked, you know, it should have just sprung right back up, you would think.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I pulled on it and everything, and I couldn't get it to pop out. There was, like I said, there was nothing holding it. And so for a person to be able to pull that tree over, you'd need like a football team of guerrillas out there. And somebody would climb way up that tree with a rope and, you know, a whole bunch of guys pulling on it. or a wench. And then still, I don't know how, to this day, I don't know how it's being held down. I haven't gone back up there since.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But I thought that was really odd that right after I heard those knocks, the next day I come up here, and there's this tree across the road, which I've seen on, you know, some of the different shows and stuff like that. And I've encountered that one other time up here when I was out hunting with my son-in-law,
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Starting point is 00:18:21 They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recess. And it was another big tree. pulled all the across the road like that, just out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:18:54 None of the other trees around were affected. I just kind of put it in the back of my mind, and it's weird, but, you know, whatever. But now I kind of think back about it and I thought, well, who knows? So that was really odd. And the next thing, going back about it, year or two ago, my son-in-law and I were hunting hogs up there in the same area on the same road, that Mill Creek Road. We were just at a different food plot.
Starting point is 00:19:38 There's one at the very beginning where you park, and it takes you about a half hour to walk up to this field. It's pretty far up the mountain. And I think it was in like a small game season. It was like August. in Georgia area the fun of season like for small game
Starting point is 00:20:00 opens in August they're taking so you gotta take a 22 or something like that up there but you can like say if there's anything
Starting point is 00:20:07 in season they let you hunt hogs so we were up there looking for hogs and we walked way up there with our calip flies and our arms dress
Starting point is 00:20:15 and everything and so we finally get up to this field that's a pretty good size field and I told him I'm gonna post He's got down here on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm going to a tree to set up against. He went further up to the top of the field, and I see him disappear up into the bushes, and he was going to wait up there. And so we said, and the thing about up there is there's no phone service anywhere. So you can't text, call, nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Your phones just don't work up there. So I'd been sitting over there, you know, twiddling my thumbs, waiting for about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, sitting against this tree. And my rifle had a scope on it so I could watch the whole field. And about that time, I see him coming out from the top of the field to his orange vest. And he's stopping and looking back up the mountain as he's walking down towards me.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And about every 20 feet, he stops and he looks back up again like he's looking at something. I kept wondering, what was he looking at? So I came out, got on the road, was starting to get late, and we forgot flashlights. So when he comes down there, he says, were you, were you beating on a tree down here trying to signal me? And I said, what? And he goes, I heard somebody, it sounded like you were down here with a big wooden branch or something, smack in a tree. And I thought you were trying to signal me to come back because we don't have phone service. I said, no, dude, I haven't moved.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I've been sitting here, you know, quiet as churchwise. And he goes, well, I heard it. It was coming from down here by you. I didn't hear a thing. That's the odd thing about it. I didn't hear anything. I didn't fall asleep either. And then he tells me, he said, when I got up and started walking out, right after I heard that noise, it sounded like somebody was further up the mountain yelling at something.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Except he said he couldn't understand what they were saying. It wasn't like, you know, there were enunciating words or anything. It was just like he just, he thought. initially that somebody who had hunting dogs up there maybe and was yelling for their dogs trying to find them. And I told him, well, there's nobody else up here but us. There's no other trucks down here on the road. So how would they get in here?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Even if they came from the other side of the ridge, I mean, man, they would have been walking for days to get up there. And he goes, yeah, but he goes, I didn't hear any dogs, but it was, he said it sounded like a person yelling. and I said, man, that's kind of creepy because there's, once again, technically somebody could have walked up there. I've never seen anybody do it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Everybody drives in there, but I thought, you know, it's starting to get dark, dude. We forgot our flashlights. Let's get on down the mountain because we've got really small caliber rifles. So that was the next thing that I thought was really odd that he heard Woodnox that I didn't hear.
Starting point is 00:23:23 and then he hears something up there yelling. Now, this food plot was within a mile of the other one where I had first heard those knocks that I just told you about. One of the other weird things about this area that I have encountered while I'm up there, and I'm not sure if it has anything to do with Sasquite so much or not, but I've heard other people talk about it,
Starting point is 00:23:53 is these balls of light. I have seen those things going through the woods out there. Like, so like if I go turkey hunting, you can hunt legally a half hour before sunrise. Like I said, it's first come first serve on the spots up there. So I'll go up there an hour or two early.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I'll be up there like 3.30 in a morning park just so I can get my spot. And I'll just sit in my truck and wait. And I've seen these lights. going through the woods or down the road, it looks about the size of a softball. And it's not like a flashlight or it's projecting light. It's just a light. And they just kind of phase off.
Starting point is 00:24:41 It's a steady light. Ed, we are getting some really weird feedback. I don't know if that's on, you're aware of that on your side or. I don't hear anything. Really. It was when you were trying to describe the balls of light, all of a sudden it just went crazy on your side of the phone. know if you could restate that part at all.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay, yeah, let me move over here to the other end of this room. Sure. Yeah, so, like I said, there was these balls of light up there in this area where I've heard the wood knocks and everything, and I see them. I've seen them a couple of times going through the, like through the woods and, or down the road. They're about the size of maybe a baseball or a softball, and they're just, the first time I saw one,
Starting point is 00:25:30 I thought it was a guy on a bicycle coming through. And then he never passed me. And I jumped out there and turned on my flashlight. There was nothing there. And I was like, what was that? It was a ball of light. And then a couple other times that I'd be sitting on a stand,
Starting point is 00:25:47 waiting for pigs or whatever, and I see these things moving through there. And I rub my eyes and I see them again. I don't know what that is. That's the most bizarre thing. But I've heard other people talk about that in connection with Sasquatch. And one of my neighbors up here, we have a campground place by where I live. And one of the guys over there said he's seen those down by this creek that's next to my property.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And I'm like, that's crazy. I thought I was the only one. But he goes, no, I've seen them. I've seen these balls of light. So we don't really know what that is. I saw something like that at Desert Stormwell, I was out there, a ball of light, me and a couple other guys, and it was just in this big thing of wood. Like I said, I don't think it was Bigfoot in Saudi Arabia, but that's the only other place I saw these lights like that, and they just disappeared. It was really odd.
Starting point is 00:26:54 one of the other things was my son-in-law and I see my son-in-law and my stepdaughter moved here from Hawaii my wife is from Hawaii and so they moved up here to live with us and he's a big hog hunter that's why I ended up you know going out and learn how to hunt hogs and stuff because that's all I have the hunt in Hawaii is hogs and one of the other times that and this is something that one of your other guests have noted that they experienced and when they said this it just came rushing back to me and I remembered it but my son-in-law and I we were hog hunting off of highway 180 up here right
Starting point is 00:27:45 right near Brass Town Ball Brass Town Ball Brass Town Ball is the highest mountain in Georgia. So you get there via Highway 180. And it's all national forest out there, which means you can hunt out there. It's a public hunting area. And there's a couple of roads and stuff that you can, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:07 you can park and get out there. And so he and I had found a place where the hogs had just been tearing the, tearing the grass up on the side of the road. They will, it looks like someone goes through to plow and just plows everything up. So we had gone out there and We were following
Starting point is 00:28:25 This hog signs down this old service road It was a good enough road where you could walk on it You couldn't drive because there was little trees Who went up in and everything But we could tell the hogs had been through there And we had been walking Oh, I don't know, maybe half hour or so Actually, I'm not as young as I used to be
Starting point is 00:28:45 And he's in his 30s So we came across an area where there's a tree had fallen over the road, and I thought, oh, this is perfect. I can sit down and take a break. I told him, I said, I'm going to sit down and, you know, take a break for a few minutes. He was like, okay, I'm going to go on up ahead, and I'll be back in like 15 minutes. I said, okay, great. So I'm sitting there, and after, I don't know, five or ten minutes or so,
Starting point is 00:29:16 the only way I can describe it is up the side of the mountain roadways. about 50 yards up from where I was sitting. It sounded like an elephant just stomped his foot on the ground as hard as it could. Or like someone was way up in a tree and dropped a huge bowling ball or something. I mean, I felt it got through my body. It was just this big thud, like, boom! And it scared me. I jumped off that log.
Starting point is 00:29:46 The safety came off my rifle. I looked up there. I didn't see anything. But I mean, it was just this big bud, like there was an invisible elephant up there, and it had just stomped the ground. So the whole time I'm waiting for my son-in-law to come back because, like I said, there's no phone reception out in these areas. So I'm standing there the whole time with my rifle just watching, like, what was that? So he finally comes back. I told him what happened.
Starting point is 00:30:18 and went up to the point where it sounded like a cane flower. There's nothing disturbed. There are no... I mean, if a limb had fallen out of a tree, you'd hear it coming down. I've heard trees fall. I've heard limbs fall out of trees. And you always hear it busting other branches on the way down or something.
Starting point is 00:30:39 But when it hits the ground, it'll crack. That's not what this was. This was just this big thud. I mean, just I saw what I can describe it. It's just this big thud, something hitting the ground like that. And we went up there and looked around
Starting point is 00:30:57 and there was nothing. There was no trees, you know, recently broken off or anything. So I'm not sure what that was or how, I have no idea what it was. But I've heard a couple of your other guys that had,
Starting point is 00:31:15 that was up here in North Georgia, that it describes something similar to that. And I was like, man, I've heard that. It just creeps you out because you're looking around you like, what was that? Just out of the blue. So that was one of the other things. And like I said, I'm not going to say any of this was Bigfoot,
Starting point is 00:31:37 but I'm not going to say it wasn't because I don't know what else it could have been. I mean, bears, Bears don't make, you know, the biggest thing that lives out here that I'm aware of that I have seen, I've got one on my, my webcam, not webcam, my game camp out of my front yard. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer?
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Starting point is 00:33:22 That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a Rees. I got a bear on it that's easily six, seven hundred pounds. But I don't even think that bear could make a noise like that. Unless he was way up and a hundred foot up in a tree and just fell out, which case I would have seen him, which I didn't. So there was that. That's a really odd thing.
Starting point is 00:33:55 the other thing I've experienced taking notes here was probably back in 2008 and this one is really to me this is the most bizarre of all of them because this is where I grew up south of Atlanta this is basically suburbia I mean there's a lot of woods and stuff around
Starting point is 00:34:26 This is right at my parents' house. And there's some big swamps that looks like Cambodia back there. I used to play in when I was growing up hunting and fishing. But there's a lot. It's a very populated area. And I was there, I think it was May. There was my parents' wedding anniversary. I was there visiting them.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I had flown in from Hawaii. And at that point in time, my mom and dad still didn't have air conditioning. in their house. And it was kind of warm for what, for May. And I was sleeping in my old bedroom. And that room had a big
Starting point is 00:35:08 window that went from the floor to the ceiling. And then back behind the house was woods for about oh, an easy mile before you hit the next subdivision. Like I said, creeks and swamps and stuff. And I'm laying there asleep
Starting point is 00:35:26 and something wakes me up and it was the most ungodly sound I have ever heard in my life. The only way I can describe it is if you took a roaring African lion and a silverback mountain gorilla
Starting point is 00:35:49 roaring as loud as he can and then you take that T-rex from that Jurassic Park movie that sound that tear X makes and you combine all three of those and you and you run it through like a big martial amp like a kiss concert and you turn the amp all the way up and and you let that noise go for about a good 15 seconds i could feel it through my bones i mean my body was vibrating when i heard this thing and uh it did it two or three times and it i had a 357 magnum revolver on the nightstand next to me.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And I didn't even think about reaching over for it because I was like, oh my God, whatever that is, this isn't even going to tickle it. Because to be able to make a sound like that, you would need some gigantic lungs. I mean, I don't know how big, but it just went on and I'm just like, ah, I mean, just went on at least a good 15 seconds each time. And it did it two or three times. And it sounded like it was only, I don't know, maybe 100 yards down to my parents' backyard. It scared me so bad that I just lay there and I tried not to move.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I mean, I did that thing where I opened my mouth and I tried to breathe real shallow. So because I thought this thing could walk right up to the window. The only thing between me and it is the screen from the window. And it could just, you know, pop that out and be. in here. And I was just, I couldn't believe it. I had never heard anything like that in my life. It was horrifying.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And like I said, it was like, if you took that sound and you pumped it, if you were in front of the speakers up on a stage at a kiss concert and they turned the speakers all the way up, that's what it felt like going through my body. And I had grew up in those woods, I had never heard anything like that. and so finally it stopped. I don't know. I made that sound that scream howl, yellow thing two or three times. And it finally stopped.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And I just kept laying there listening as hard as I could. Just wait to see if I could hear anything moving. And I never heard anything else. And I finally fell asleep. And so the next morning I get up and I ask my dad, I think, did you hear that thing last night? And he goes, I didn't hear anything. I was like, oh, my God, you must have been in a coma. How could you not hear that?
Starting point is 00:38:26 It was ungodly. So I didn't go down there in the woods to look around that day. It was just me. Like I said, the 3507 was the biggest gun I had at the time over there. And I wasn't going to get my dad to go down there with me because he was getting older. And so I had one more night to stay there. And the next night, it happened again. I mean, it was just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:38:54 the volume on this thing and how long it just kept going and in my mind I'm like how big do you have to be to generate that much noise for that long of a period of time? I mean a human being you could scream
Starting point is 00:39:14 as loud as you could for maybe I don't know 10 seconds or so and then you'd be like out of breath but this thing just kept going. It was just unbelievable. So the next morning I got him and asked my dad again, did you hear it? He goes, yeah, I heard it last night. I said, what was that? He goes, I don't know, I've never heard anything like that in my life. And my dad was like me, he'd been basically to all the states in the country and he was in the military.
Starting point is 00:39:41 He'd been around the world and, you know, same thing is like, you know, you've never heard anything like that. You've been all the way around the world. You've experienced a lot of stuff. And, you know, that's just so crazy, bizarre. So my sister came to pick me up later that afternoon. I was going to go to her house. And I told her, I said, come with me. We've got to go down the woods behind the house. I want to see if there's any tracks down there
Starting point is 00:40:07 because there was like a real sandy area where the water bubbled up on the ground down there and had the gun stuck in the back of my pocket. And so she's going down the hill with me. She goes, why do I have to go with you? I said, in case something happens to one of us, the other one can run back and, you know, get some help or tell people what's going on. She goes, well, why do you get to carry the gun?
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's my gun. I'm not letting you have it. But anyway, so that was just, I never figured out what that was. And I can't say that it was Bigfoot, but it's, I don't know what it was. I mean, it was unbelievable, whatever that was. It was just crazy, crazy loud. And then one of the other things, this was, when I was in the Army, I was stationed up in Fort Lewis, Washington.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And this was before I went to Desert Storm. So I think it was in about 1990. So the way the divisions in the Army works, or at least the way they used to work was about every month a unit would be the duty battalion and you got stuck doing all the dirty jobs around the base, picking up trash and mowing grass in different places and all kinds of crap like that. So we were on that duty and the first sergeant gave Michael Tonsarge, who was a guy I was pretty close with, we were pretty different. he gave him a, they call it a detail that this one training area needed to be, they call it a police call.
Starting point is 00:41:57 All that means is you're going to go out and pick up trash. If God didn't put it there, you pick it up. So there was this training area somewhere out on the outskirts of the base that needed a two-day police call. So we're going to go two days in a row and pick up trash. So it was me, the platoon sergeant, and this private, who was our driver. we had a Humvee and so we drive way out there and we got these trash bags and everything
Starting point is 00:42:25 and all our MRI used to eat and there was a they had a gate across this area believe you or not and you had to unlock it and go inside and if you've never been up to the Pacific Northwest especially the Tacoma Seattle area I think it's a temperate rainforest
Starting point is 00:42:43 is what they call it it's like it's like Jurassic park back in there. The trees are just gigantic. They have ant hills that are three, four feet tall made out of pine needles. And it's, I mean, it's beautiful. There's ferns that are, I'm six one, and these ferns just towered over me. It's just the only thing I could think of was just Jurassic Park. So we pull in there and we immediately can tell that this is just a sham job. There's There's not any trash back here to pick up. Nobody's been back here since, you know, Moses wasn't private.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So we figured, okay, we basically get two days off. We just sit out here, hang out, and as long as the first sergeant doesn't find out that we were just out here, you know, BS around, we're fine. We get two days off or away from the company. So the three of us decide we're going to go out and walk around because I told the platoon sergeant and said, you know, Bob, this would be a great place to bring the platoon up here for jungle training because it basically looks like a big jungle. And he said, yeah, so let's go and check out the area. So we're walking around and we find this game trail going up, it's not really that
Starting point is 00:44:07 mountainous over there, but there are some pretty good hills. We're going up this hill. At some point across this game trail, we come across this big pile of poop. And it looked like a person, except if it was a person that was like 10 feet tall, maybe, it wasn't like, you know, regular person poop. It was gigantic person poop. It wasn't a dog. It wasn't a coyote or a wolf or a bear. I know what all that stuff looks like. That wasn't what this was. This stuff was huge. And we're all just standing there looking at it. And we're looking at each other. And we're all thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I know we are like, oh, my God, this can't be, you know, bigfoot. But that's what we're thinking, I know. Because like what else could it be up here? It's not deer elk or anything else like that. Their poop doesn't look anything like that. And so we're looking at it, looking at it. And we thought, well, maybe we should head back already. because none of us wanted to be scared or anything,
Starting point is 00:45:19 but there's no point in just challenging water that we didn't have any guns or anything. So on the way back, I told my platoon started, I said, hey, I got a 9-millimeter pistol. I think I'm going to bring it tomorrow just for our own safety. And he goes, yeah, I think that's a good idea. So we kind of stayed close to the home being the rest of the day. and the next day
Starting point is 00:45:45 we come back out there with the pistol this time we'll feel a lot safer with a you know even though some little 9-millimeter pistol is better than nothing so we go in
Starting point is 00:45:56 we start to explore in the opposite direction going down the hill and there's a river down there and I don't remember the name was a river that saved my life but it was a pretty good size piece of water
Starting point is 00:46:10 I don't know, it was maybe 40, 50 feet across. And it was running pretty good. It had salmon in it. It was that kind of a river. It had salmon. Because as we walked down the river, we found a salmon that was kind of almost up on the bank, but just barely in the water. And you could tell it was still fresh.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It was just, you know, it wasn't rotten or anything. And the thing about it was, there was this huge, bite mark on the belly of it and we were standing there looking at that going what do you think bit that big chunk of salmon because it wasn't like a bear has a kind of a pointed muzzle a coyote or wolf you know they got their they're kind of canine-shaped muzzle this wasn't shaped like that this was shaped like a person except a person whose head would have been two or three times bigger than ours.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You know, that's what it looked like. It was kind of a half-moon shape. And so we're standing there looking at that, and we're thinking about the poop from the day before. And we walked maybe about 10 or 15 yards further down the river. And on the other side of the river, the bank went up drastically, I mean, almost like a cliff,
Starting point is 00:47:39 up about, I don't know, 50, 60 feet up, and there was a lot of brush on the side of it. And as we're going down, we heard something. I don't know what it was. Up there in that brush, moving around, and the next thing you know,
Starting point is 00:47:58 there's rocks hitting the river right out in front of us. Like if, I don't know, somebody was throwing rocks, and they weren't, you know, like basketballs or anything. They were just maybe the size of your fist or something. But so I'm not sure if whatever it was was scrambling up that mountain, which a person, I guess a person could get up it, but it would be really hard.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I wouldn't have, even back then I was young, you know, in the Army and everything, I wouldn't have wanted to try it. But we weren't sure if it was somebody, something scrambling up there and kicking rocks loose. But I don't think so because they would have hit closer to that, the far shore. And most of them were hitting out in the middle or on our side of the shoreline. And so we were like, we couldn't see what it was. But when that happened, we put that together with the salmon that's just right upstream, a few yards,
Starting point is 00:49:01 with that giant bite out of it. And then the poop from the day before. and we were like, oh, that's it. I took off running up the side of the mountain. And the other guys were like, hey, wait, wait for us, wait for us. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad?
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Starting point is 00:50:36 Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a reases. Why? Because you've got the gun. And so we got back up to the Humvee and we stayed up there like for the rest of the day. And we didn't really, you know, we didn't really talk like. We ate our lunch and stuff. And it was almost like we were on guard.
Starting point is 00:51:05 We were sitting around and standing around right outside the vehicle and just watching, waiting to see if something was going to show up out there. And it never did. And, you know, when the time came, we went back to the company area. We didn't really discuss it with anybody. But it was really, really odd. Like I said, I can't say that it was Bigfoot, but I've never seen any poop like that since,
Starting point is 00:51:35 except that the Bigfoot Museum over here in the Cherry Log, Georgia, which is about how far down the road from me, they've got the, I don't know if it's fake poop or whatever it is, but supposedly Bigfoot poop on display. And I looked at that. And as soon as I saw that, I was like, wow, that looks just like what I saw up in Washington. And since Washington is kind of the Bigfoot Central up there,
Starting point is 00:52:03 according to everything else, that's the first thing I thought of. So that's basically some of the stuff that I've experienced. Ed, that's incredible. My goodness, thank you for sharing. I was actually going to ask you the question you pretty much just answered, which is what was the orientation of the SCAT that you saw? And it sounds like it was kind of in a straight line, because I'm picturing what's at the L.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, exactly. It was right there on that trail of all places. And like I said, there's no homeless people out there. It was a military training area on the base, and it was just plain as day. We were just walking in, boom, there it is. And you couldn't miss it. I love to hunt and fish, so I'm out in the woods a lot out here.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And I see bearscats all the time, and it doesn't look anything like that. Hogs, I've never seen anything like that ever again, except for that stuff that they have in this little museum over here. but that was kind of bizarre and the whole tree thing I've now that I remember
Starting point is 00:53:21 right down here on my property I go deer hunting like here's the other thing I wanted to get to about the pigs and the deer on the wildlife management areas I've been up there like I said turkey hunting I always see turkeys out there there's tons of them out there
Starting point is 00:53:39 and up until about two years years ago, there was lots of hogs out there. I mean, you would see signs of them. Even driving down the road out here in the mountains, you know, there's always a grassy area on the median, the side of the road, whatever. And you can tell where the hogs have been because it looks like someone took a rotiller and just went out there and tilled up a garden plot.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Even in the woods, they go through there and they'll be 15 or 20 of them and they'll just take their noses and they just turned the earth over. and just tear it up. So basically, every time I would go, or me and my son-in-law would go out here into the WMAs or even in the National Forest, we would find spots. It was pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:54:26 You'd go out there and start walking. You'll find a spot where the hogs had been until about two years ago. And suddenly, we just didn't see hogs anymore. There was no signs anywhere. I mean, I used to get them on my trail cameras over here on my property. We even sat down here in the bottom part of my yard a year or two ago with our bows one night in the summer and our green lights because we had about a 200-something pound hog kept coming through.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And then suddenly they were just gone. And I just wondered, I thought, well, what? And I've never seen a deer on those WMAs. Maybe one. I don't even go deer hunting over there. I come down here on my property or my next door neighbor lets me hunt on there. property, but I have never seen a deer other than maybe just one on there. And then the hogs just suddenly, it's like, I don't know, it's like, you know, Star Trek came
Starting point is 00:55:25 and beamed them up or something. And after hearing those wood knocks up there, I kind of wondered, did, are these things nomadic, did they move into this area? And then did they eat all the hogs, or did they run all the hogs? off and then oh there was one other thing I almost forgot when I was talking about the turkey hunting I met a guy a couple of years ago out here we met up we were out hunting turkey in the same area you know we came friends and we were up there in the Chattahoochee wildlife management area and we had decided to basically call it a morning and we knew that there was these
Starting point is 00:56:12 two guys camping at this one camp spot. And this spot is the only place up on the mountain where you can get a phone signal. So they call it the phone booth, oddly enough. And they had a fire going. And so we kind of meandered over there and started up a conversation with him and kind of an excuse us to stand by the fire because it was cold that day. And so I was going to ask them, the same thing, whenever I meet anybody out here in the woods, hunter fishing, I always ask them, are you from up here? And usually it's always yes. And I'll ask them kind of a round about, beat around the bush.
Starting point is 00:56:48 What's the weirdest thing you've seen out here in the woods? And I'll usually ask them, fine. Have you ever seen Bigfoot? They always laugh. Everybody laughs and says, no. But these guys were a little bit different. So they were camping. Apparently they come up here every year to get away from their wives for a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:57:09 So while we're standing there, petting the dogs and standing by the fire. I asked the guy, what's some weirdest thing you guys have ever seen up here? This one guy tells me, he'll back down here in such and such hollow, which I had a specific name, and I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:57:28 He said, I was hunting back there, and I've heard children laughing, giggling, and there's no children back there. I thought, well, that's pretty creepy. you know so I don't know if that's a residual you know Native American thing or is it
Starting point is 00:57:49 juvenile Sasquots that he doesn't see and they're I don't you know if they laugh or not because I was listening to a different podcast the other night and there was another guy from up here in Georgia and he said he heard one sound like it was singing which I was like singing. Wow, that's different.
Starting point is 00:58:11 So I guess if you could sing, possibly you could maybe make something that sounds like laughter. I don't know, but he seemed to think it was kind of a honking sort of thing. I was like, okay, well, that's kind of strange. I'll try to
Starting point is 00:58:27 avoid that area. And then he tells me, he said, I haven't seen Bigfoot, but, and he goes, you remember when you was a kid used to watch the pink Panther cartoon. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 He goes, remember how the Pink Panther walk? Yeah, that funny, goofy walk? I was like, yeah. He said, well, I was down here coming off of whatever highway, which is right up in this area somewhere. I forget what it was. And he said, and this thing stepped out on the road, and he said, it had to be seven plus foot tall, had a real long tail, walked on two legs,
Starting point is 00:59:08 and he said it walked across the road he goes the funny thing about it was it walked just like that pink panther cartoon and that little bebop kind of thing as it walked across the road and I'm looking at him I was like
Starting point is 00:59:24 what I'm thinking this guy just you know yunk in my chain but he was deadly serious and he said I went across the road he goes I turned around and I came back to you goes I thought there was some kids or somebody up here playing a joke on me and I wanted to catch him.
Starting point is 00:59:40 So I turned around and came back and he goes, I stopped where I saw going to the woods. He goes, I didn't see anything. I thought, you're serious. And I just, you know, you know, just BS and he goes, no, I'm deadly serious. I saw this. I thought, okay, that sounds like one of those dogmen things because I've never heard or seen anything about a saskatch with a big long, bushy tail. But anyway, so that's something else that someone has related to me up here.
Starting point is 01:00:07 and then like I said the guy down here at the dump that told me that he'd seen the one in Hazel in a guy's yard and he said it was like Ben and over picking something up as it walked by and this was like 11 o'clock in a day in you know daytime
Starting point is 01:00:21 and I said well you know the thing about that is if somebody was trying to hoax somebody people driving by or say the guy that lived at that house they're taking their life in their own hands because everybody up here is armed to the teeth.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I mean, everybody up here in the mountains has guns. It's just a culture. You know, we're not out looking for a fight. That's just everybody carries guns. And sooner or later, there's going to be some good old boy redneck, and I don't use that as a disparaging term. I'm a redneck myself, I'm pretty sure. But sooner or later, you know, there's going to be somebody sees one
Starting point is 01:01:06 and goes, there's a big foot, and I'm going to shoot it, and they're going to shoot at it. So if you put on a big furry costume and start walking through people's front yards trying to scare them, either that guy that owns the house is going to come out and put some hot lead on you, or somebody's going to stop their F-150 pickup on a side road and pull out his rifle and put some lead on you. So it's either that, a crazy person, which you would have to. to be mental to do something like that, or it was real. So, I don't know, but that's what he told me. And then the other neighbor over here where the campground is, there was a guy over there,
Starting point is 01:01:51 and he's from Florida, and he claimed that he was going through the Everglades, and there was one standing right out on the side of the road. He said, traffic came to a stop, and him and his wife both saw it. So he, when I talked to him about it, he doesn't last. He's like, yeah, I saw one. And I was like, well, I'm not the only person that, you know, encounters this. But then, so this year, like I said, I deer hunt back here right on my property. And my next door neighbors have given me permission to hunt their property.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So during the rut, I was putting up cameras back there trying to, you know, see what time the box are coming through. So I'd go down through there every day and check these things. cameras. So I know what's what in the woods right in that area. So I go down there one day and there's a tree that's about, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:02:48 about as big around as my arm, maybe about 15, 20 feet tall. And I thought it had been pulled, well, I guess it was pulled over, but it was pulled over and broken off down by the base. And I thought, now what in the
Starting point is 01:03:05 world would have done that? Because there wasn't any windstorms or anything last night, and nobody else goes down there and hunts but me. I mean, I'm the only person that goes down there. Now, I guess it could have been a bear that did it. I guess, maybe. I've never seen bears pulling trees over like that before, but I guess it could have been a bear, but I don't know because down in that area is where the guy said he saw the balls of white, and then the next thing you know,
Starting point is 01:03:36 I got this tree down there that's pulled down out of millions of trees. There's just this one tree right there. And it's along the avenue that I was traveling to go check the cameras, which is kind of creeps me out because it's almost like in their face like, hey, I'm letting you know that I'm over here. So to, and it may sound strange to people. I don't know, but it makes me feel better because I don't know. I like I said, listen to all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I see the shows on TV. And some people think that they're telepathic and whatnot. Maybe they are. Maybe they're not. I don't know. But just in case they are, just on the odd off chance that they are, when I get out of my truck to go hunting now, I say a little, maybe a prayer, but a little message to them in my mind.
Starting point is 01:04:29 You know, I'm like, hey, I'm not here to bother you, your family. I'm just out here hunting deer, pigs, turkey, whatever, the case maybe I don't really want to see you. I don't want to be bothered by you. And as soon as I'm done, I'll take all my trash with me and I'll leave. So I don't know if that helps or not, but it can't hurt, you know what I mean? So I do that. But yeah, so I don't know, like I said, with the hogs, they're just suddenly disappeared up here. So I don't know if Bigfoot is wiped them out or if they've decided Bigfoot is something they don't want to deal with so they've left the area. But I haven't seen one up here really in about two years.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And I think that's just so bizarre because there's not too many guys up here to actually hunt hogs. I ask guys that too. You see any hogs or you hunt hogs? I only met like one or two other guys and actually dedicated to hunt hogs. And I'm pretty sure they didn't wipe them all out because there's must be thousands, hundreds of thousands of them up here probably. They breed like roaches. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.
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Starting point is 01:06:18 Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. By the time I hit my 50s, I'd learned a few things. Like how family is precious. Work can always wait. And 99% of people over 50 already have the virus that causes shingles. Not everyone at risk will develop it. But I did.
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Starting point is 01:06:57 Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recesses. It's extremely interesting. You have a ton of really interesting anecdotes from all over the place. I had no idea that you're really going to go all over the place.
Starting point is 01:07:29 This has been a very cool conversation. It's very unique to have someone on the show that, or at least for my show, I've only been able to talk to a handful of individuals that have been involved with out there in Fort Lewis in Washington. It's such an interesting area out there. Yeah, it is. It's crazy out there. I've never seen ant hills like that in my life until I first got there.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And you could just see the ants crawling all over. The whole thing is pulsate. Oh, man. No way. That's the only place I ever slept in an igloo overnight, too. It snowed on us, started snowing one night. And we didn't have tents, and they didn't like us sleep. sleeping inside the vehicle.
Starting point is 01:08:17 So we actually built a snow shelter and our whole squad of us got in there like sardines and we were very comfortable. So it was, I experienced quite a few things out there. You go to the eastern part of state and it's all desert and we did lots of training out there. And yeah, it was different, really different. So when I moved here, when I moved back home to Georgia, and the whole big, thing was I blame it on my father because when I was a little kid, they didn't have all these shows on TV. There was no internet back in the late 60s, early 70s. Like I said, I'm older than
Starting point is 01:08:57 dirt. But you had to go to the theater to see these documentaries about Bigfoot. And every time one came on, my dad drugged me to the theaters to see them. So I always kind of blame him for that. But I never really thought that Georgia would be a place where there was Bigfoot's. I mean, you know, there's, I believe in polar bears,
Starting point is 01:09:27 but I don't think there's any living in Georgia because this, you know, that's not where they live up the Arctic Circle. So I believe in moose, but I've never seen one in Georgia. So that was my rationale. You know, they all live up in the Pacific Northwest or Canada. or somewhere far up north like that.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And I even talked to a guy right down the road. I think it was last year I was going to go turkey hunting. I got a lot of national forest around my property here. And I was going to this one spot, and there was a couple walking down the road. And when I came back out, they were going the other way. And I figured they must live over here in one of these houses. So I'm going to ask him about the turkeys.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And so he said, oh, we don't live here. we're here with my wife's parents live over here. We're from Ohio. So I told him about the turkey. He goes, oh, I'm a turkey hunter too. I love the turkey hunt. And I said, oh, really? So here we go.
Starting point is 01:10:27 He opens me up. Now I know he's an outdoorsman. I can ask him my question. I ask everybody. I said, you're from Ohio? I said, so I just came right on and ask him. I said, have you ever seen Bigfoot? Because it's a pretty popular thing up there.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And he goes, no. He goes, no, but I believe in it. He goes, I live on the wrong side of the state. All the Bigfoot lives on the other side of the state. And I was like, what? I had no idea that there were, you know, segregated like that where they all live on one part. But I guess that's, you know, whatever. But he goes, yeah, I believe in it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I was like, you're the first guy I've talked to at this time. It has ever told me, yes, I believe in this. Because everyone else soon as I ask them, they just start snickering, laughing and whatever. So for me to experience these things up here And you know how a lot of these people will tell you I was out here and hair stood up on the back of my neck Well, I don't have hair anymore but if I did There's only one place
Starting point is 01:11:28 Oh, I almost ready to tell you this one This is I'm not really sure but I got to tell you this It's another It's also part of the Swallow Creek Wildlife management area. So people know, this wildlife management area encapsulates about
Starting point is 01:11:49 19,000 square acres. It's a pretty large area. And there's lots of little feeder roads to go into it all around. Kind of like you have a spider and then all the legs come out. Those roads, the legs will be the roads going in. So
Starting point is 01:12:07 I had found another road that wasn't even marked. It was just off of another road, and I went down it and come to find out that's the service road for that part of the WMA. And then I found a trail to go down the mountain. It takes about 10 minutes to get all the way down this mountain. And there's three food plots down there.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And I find them on this map, on this hunting app that I got. And I saw him on there, and I was like, okay, I had to find the trail. I finally found the trail. And sure enough, turkeys down there are thick as peanut butter. So I decided I'm going to start turkey hunting down there. So getting down there in the dark is creepy to say the least. And I'm, you know, I'm heavily armed.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Not only do I carry my shotgun, I got a 10 millimeter pistol with me in case the bears want to, you know, try to eat me for lunch. I have been paced by a coyote going down there before. You know, I'd be walking and I hear something walking next to me, and then I stopped and it would stop. I walk a little more, and I thought, what does that? Turn the light, the chicken coyote. He's got the balls to, you know, he's pacing me.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I'm like, you better run. So I'm down there one morning, and I get down there before sunrise, because the sunrise is when the turkeys come off the roost. and they're going to fly down onto these fields, and that's when your best chance to get one. So I get down there, and like I said before, there was no truck in the area,
Starting point is 01:13:42 so I felt comfortable to stop there and go down and figure there's nobody else down there. Well, I get down there, and I have to pass through two other fields to get to the very last one to where I wanted to be, and I'm sitting down there, and this field is long, and it's shaped like a football field,
Starting point is 01:14:00 long and skinny, and the very back-end, is the service road where the DNR comes in and they'll plow these things in the summer or whatever and they plant different food for the animals and I had talked to another gentleman who lived back there he goes yeah that road goes through my property so the DNR has come through my property to get to their road okay that's that's interesting so I'm down there this morning and I'm sitting there waiting waiting waiting and from across this field further down down from me, towards where that guy said his property was at, I see what I thought at the time was a person emerged out of the woods. And he kind of walked out into the field a little bit and then went down towards where that guy's house was. The thing is, I couldn't really see clearly because the son was just starting to come up a
Starting point is 01:15:00 little bit, but I know he didn't have a gun, which I thought was. kind of odd because I'm thinking who else comes down here on this field first thing in the morning turkey season and it's not packing a shotgun that's that's just odd and you know it just he was I couldn't see if he was wearing camel or what he just was like a black figure it came out of the bushes and I kept thinking about it thinking about it then why would somebody be over there if, you know, there was, and when I got back up, when I left, I went back up to my truck. There was no trucks up there.
Starting point is 01:15:39 So if he came from up on the road, he had to walk down a pretty hazardous decline through all that brush that we've talked about. I think I would have heard him coming down. And I don't know. It just, I didn't hear anybody out there. And to get there that way, I mean, you're really working hard to get through that stuff if you're going to come down there just to go and get on that road and walk. And then I thought, well, if it's the guy that lives here, what's he doing over there in the woods, in the dark, you know, and he doesn't have a gun? Not that I could see, but it just came out.
Starting point is 01:16:22 So the more I thought about it, the more I kind of wondered, you know, after I heard the Knox and stuff, I thought, was that really a man that I saw? I don't know. But it just gives me pause to wonder. Because like I said, I went back up and got my truck, and there wasn't any other trucks up there. It was just me. It was kind of odd.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So I don't know. And honestly, be honest with you, I don't want Bigfoot. to be real because I enjoy going out in woods. And the thought that I'm going out there, and there's some eight, nine foot, thousand pound gorilla out there that can rip my head off, it kind of freaks me out now.
Starting point is 01:17:13 You know, I don't want to see it. I don't want to know it until I can say my little thing. I don't want to know you're anywhere around. I don't want to smell of you. I don't want to see you. I don't want to see your head peeking out from behind a tree or any of that kind of stuff. I just, I don't want to want to.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I don't, what I really don't want is the people that I hear them when they say they're coming up and whacking the side of their houses at mine and stuff like, I'm not going to put up with that. I mean, I got more guns than God would allow up here. And if that kind of stuff starts, you know, I'm going to take care of business, but, you know, do you stay out of my yard and I won't bother you? But so far, I haven't had any, you know, problems with stuff like that, knock on wood. Yeah, I don't want to. but you know just a thought that you're going out there and there's this thing that could just rip your arms off is kind of um just kind of creeps me out the good thing though is that i like how uh before you go out hunting you even though you may not entirely believe in the communication you know mentally you are
Starting point is 01:18:20 still having that you know you're sending that out you know you're sending that out you know you know And so your intention is correct, you know. Yeah, I let them know my intentions are very respectful. When I go out there, I see places, I mean, sometimes I walk for a couple of miles out there, and I'll find beer cans and trash. I'm like, who walks way out here to drink beer? You know, who brought a six-pack two miles up the side of a mountain to drink beer and there's just throw it on the ground.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And I'm like, you know, you have no respect for the woods and, you know, Mother Earth and all that kind of stuff. Because one thing I learned in the Army was trash is the enemy can tell a lot about you by your trash. So if you leave trash on the battlefield and they find it, they can tell a lot about you. So I learned early on in my life, when you're out in the woods, everything that you bring out there, you basically goes back out with you. I mean, I went through a school when I was in the army, which was, I don't want to mention the name of it because I don't like the politics involved with it. Now, one phase of it, most of it is actually here in Georgia. One phase of it is actually up here
Starting point is 01:19:42 in the North Georgia Mountains. And so they would give us a certain amount of food to take out on the patrols and say if it was a seven-day patrol, you got seven meals. When you got back, you better have either the meals that you didn't eat, which was basically most of them, or you better have the trash because they would check to make sure that whatever you took out, you brought back. Because otherwise people can, you know, hey, I found this toilet paper, and I found this candy wrappers. These guys are very well supplied because they got candy, They get toilet paper. They get cigarettes where they threw their cigarette butts down.
Starting point is 01:20:23 And all those little things I've learned over the years. So I don't leave stuff out in the woods like that. It's just a habit. And when I see people living trash and stuff out there, it just burns me up. I'm like, you know, you're just destroying it for the next generation or the animals that are out here and whatnot. So like I said, I try.
Starting point is 01:20:45 If they are real, if they really are out there, I let them know, hey, I respect you and I'm not out here to cause you any problems you know if you really don't want me out here throw a couple of rocks or some sticks at me and I'll leave, believe me
Starting point is 01:20:59 because I don't want to I'm not the redneck that says I'm going to shoot one because I don't believe that there's just one running around by itself. I have a feeling that they're probably family units and if you
Starting point is 01:21:15 I just get the feeling if you mess with one of of them that the rest of them are just going to gang up on you and that's going to be a real bad day for you you know no i i have the same uh thought where you know i think there's a lot of other people that also have the same feeling it kind of kind of like in you remember Jurassic park the first one and you have moldoon you know it tries to take down the raptor and then the other two raptors show up on either side of them. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable
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Starting point is 01:22:58 They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recesses. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recess. Yeah. It's going to be like that pretty much.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Only a lot more. Or like a... Or it would be like, you know how mountain gorillas live? They're big family units. There's not just one of them out there. Matter of fact, pretty much everything out here, except for the bears. The bears are pretty much loners, unless you have a sow in her cubs. But everything else out here, I kid people, I tell them,
Starting point is 01:23:52 I basically have a deer farm, a deer and a turkey farm out in my front yard. because it slopes away. We're kind of up on the side of mountain. And sometimes I have to honk the horn on my car to get the deer to move off my driveway. They're just standing there looking at me and they're like, what do you want? I would like to get by it, please. Can you just move out of the way? And then you can come back and eat all the grass you want.
Starting point is 01:24:19 The more you eat, the less I have to mow. But, you know, like I said, we've had hogs and stuff out here. but I do think it's strange about the hogs and the deer. Matter of fact, this month, there's a, I think it's called Georgia Sportsman magazine, something like that. It's a Georgia-specific hunting and fishing magazine. And on the front cover is a wild boar. And so, you know, I went to go to go to flipping through it while my wife's shopping.
Starting point is 01:24:51 And you don't have to report killing hogs up here. There's no limit. The game warden told me what they'd have to kill as many as you can, you know, because there are just so many of them at that time there were. And they have this state divided up into different sectors. So I looked on my sector up here in Towns County. And like I said, I don't know who was reporting to the DNR that they killed hogs. But for the whole hunting season,
Starting point is 01:25:20 I said like either one or two had been reported killed. And that's odd. See, every time I tell you something like this, it makes me remember something else. So my son-in-law, the big hog hunter from Hawaii, is taking my granddaughter to school, and the school's just right around the corner down here one morning. And apparently someone had hit a hog out on the road out there.
Starting point is 01:25:49 And he threw it on top of his Jeep Cherokee, brought it back to our house and threw it out here on the side of the yard because he wanted to see how his dog would interact with it. Well, he didn't tell me about it. So, you know, he goes to work. My granddaughter goes to school, and I come outside, let my dog out.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I got a Rottweiler and then my son-wels healer, and I see this thing out there in the yard. I'm like, what? What? No world is that? I go down there and it's a dead hog. I thought, how did this hog get in the yard and just fall over dead? So anyway, long story short, he tells me what happened. And I said, well, we can't just leave that hog laying out here in the yard.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Pretty soon it's going to start to stink the place up. So I put it on the back of my truck, and I had an idea. So I'm going to take it down to the other end of the property where there's a power line cut that goes through our property. And I'm going to stake it down and get a metal stake, and I'm going to tie it down to that. And I'm going to put a camera on it. And I'm going to watch and see what comes over there to eat. it. So for about, I don't know, three or four days or so, I can drive by there and I could look with my binoculars and see the hog laying there. And I checked the camera a couple of times
Starting point is 01:27:07 and it was like nothing wanted to touch that hog for some strange reason. Once in a while there'd be a crow or a buzzard come down, nothing. And then in the afternoon, I usually go and pick up my granddaughter from school. And so on the way home, she says, Papa, let's drive by and see if the hog was going on with the hog because I had already pulled the camera off of it because I needed it somewhere else because I was like nothing's touching that hog I'm not wasting camera time I've only got a few of them and you and I've had bears take my cameras and chew them up before and so the camera was gone but we drive by and I get the by and I was look the hog is gone I mean completely gone and I was like wow it is it's gone I mean over
Starting point is 01:27:52 night was gone. Now, when I took that hog out of my truck and I had to drag him over there to that power line, you probably wait about 50 pounds, maybe. I had drug him through the leaves and it left the trail, a big drag mark through the woods. So I go down there after I drop my granddaughter off, you know, at the house, I go down there in my truck. The cord, which was, it was like a almost like parachute cord, real high tensile strength cord, had been broken. It didn't look like it had been chewed through. It looked like something had just snapped it.
Starting point is 01:28:29 And the hog was gone. There were no drag marks anywhere. It's like that hog just stood up and walked off. Or something came over there, snapped that cord, picked up that hog, and left with it. Now, we have a bear out here. Like I said, we have about a 600-plus-pound black bear that we call Big Jim. I guess Big Jim could have picked it up in his mouth and walked off with it.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I don't know. But I thought that was really odd that there wasn't a drag mark anywhere. And you can see the drag marks where I drug it over there. So whatever, I had no idea what picked that clog up and ran off of it. There wasn't any pieces of it laying around, nothing. You know, that's so weird because I hear, man, I have. I hear people tell me stuff similar with like elks they've shot out in Idaho where they come back real quick.
Starting point is 01:29:28 The elk is entirely gone. It's like where to go? There's no drag marks. It's just, it's crazy stuff. Ed, you've got some really interesting things that have happened over the years. I think if you keep doing what you're doing,
Starting point is 01:29:41 stuff is just going to keep happening to you. And I'd love to keep in touch with you. Okay. Well, maybe I'll stop doing what I'm doing. I don't really want it to keep happening. That's true. I forgot. Most people are like, well, this isn't really my thing.
Starting point is 01:29:58 I mean, I'm fascinated by it. Like I said, it's been a part of me since I was a kid. I watched every TV show. There's one on there. I watched just a heckle because I think it's kind of funny. This will be my last little story. When I was still a policeman in Hawaii, A few years before I retired, like I said, my wife was from Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:30:23 I brought her back over here to Georgia, and we came up here to North Georgia for a day. She and I and my sister to drive around, and I said, this is where we're going to live. And she was like, there's no, I don't see any houses up here. Where are we going to live? Most of the place where we was going through was an actual forest. So, of course, there was no houses. And in Hawaii, people live on top of each other, basically. So she was like, wow, this is, there's, there's no.
Starting point is 01:30:50 nothing up here. I was like, yeah, it's perfect. There's no people up here to bother me. Nothing because after being a cop, you just don't want to be around people no more. But anyway, so this was the first year that the show Finding Bigfoot was coming on. And we'd gone back to Hawaii and went back home and the very first episode was going to come on and I couldn't wait to watch it, you know. And my wife was laying on a little sofa in front of the TV and she had fallen asleep. and so the show comes on and what do you know they're right up here
Starting point is 01:31:25 in Helen Georgia it's a little alpine village thing right this like 15 miles from my house and tonight we're in the north Georgia mountains looking for Sasquatch and I thought oh no if my wife sees this she ain't never moving to Georgia so I tried to think I turned the volume down
Starting point is 01:31:44 you know a little bit thinking she won't wake up and you know they do their little town hall meeting things. Well, they had their town hall meeting right there in Alpine Helen. I don't know if you've ever heard of it or whatever. It looks like a little German town. They have October Fest and everything. So they're having their little town hall right there, right where we went through,
Starting point is 01:32:05 right by where we had lunch and everything. Right when that part of the show was airing, my wife wakes up. She looks up at the TV and she watches it for like about 30 seconds. And she goes, hey, that looks like that place we went. And I'm sitting over there going, oh, no. And she goes, I said, it is. That's Helen, Georgia. She goes, what show is this?
Starting point is 01:32:32 I was like, here we go. I said, it's finding Bigfoot. Oh, that was it. She just lost it. Finding Bigfoot. There's Bigfoot and Georgia. I am not moving over there. No way.
Starting point is 01:32:45 She just kind of lost her line. about the whole Bigfoot thing, but she got over it. But I was like, well, it's the odds that she would wake up right when that was on, you know, and I got to tell her that. That's hilarious. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was. Oh, good stuff, Ed.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Take the good with the bad, whatever. Absolutely. Man, thank you for coming on the show and for sharing what you've experienced over the years. And, you know, definitely, you know. Yeah, there's anything. If anything else happens, you will be the first one. Please reach out, yeah. Absolutely.
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