Bigfoot Society - Squatchy's Adventure from A to Z and a Cryptid Themed Theme Park | Cryptid Artist | Max Lim

Episode Date: March 5, 2022

#117Max Lim is a St. Louis based transaction attorney who specializes in Healthcare and Real Estate law. At the beginning of COVID, Max found out he was going to be a father and decided to get back into art. Max wanted to create something special for his son’s nursery. After his wife and he decided on a bigfoot-themed nursery, he set out to make his wall décor with kid-friendly bigfoot designs. Max’s projects soon evolved into an ABC book featuring Squatchy along with a series of cute cryptid characters. Max is currently working on a detailed map of the United States featuring cryptids and lore from each state.Join the Bigfoot Society Patreon for an extra 18 minutes with Max where we talk about Max's ghost story that takes an unexpected turn! You'll also get a sweet membership card, a special vinyl sticker and much, much more!https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyTune in every Saturday at 5 pm Central for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QIG: https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Website: https://bit.ly/3jvKIm7Donate: https://bit.ly/3C4hodMShop: https://etsy.me/3ptlubQiTunes: https://apple.co/3fmmhTCSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3vF1vIriHeart Radio: https://ihr.fm/3CarDgDStitcher: https://bit.ly/3m75I4xFacebook: https://bit.ly/3b5XgMpFull links: https://bit.ly/bigfootlinksResource:Pick up Squatchy's Adventure from A to Z, some stickers, and more from Max at his Maximus Prime Art website - https://www.maximusprimeart.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety)

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people in the cryptozoology field, authors, artists, and researchers. This week, I'm able to talk to a new friend, Max Lim from Maximus Prime Art. You may have seen him blow up on TikTok recently. with his cryptozoology themed maps, and he does all sorts of cryptid-themed arts. So we're talking about some crazy stuff this week. We're talking about NFTs. We're talking about TikToks.

And I do also want to say, of course, this episode is not financial advice in any way, of course. But it's a fun chat. So let's talk to Max about his plans for a cryptic themed theme park. And I sure hope there's a van meter visitor land as, I mean, you're on board with that, right, guys? But thanks again for listening. If you're listening and watching on YouTube, please do me a favor. Like this video, comment what you would put in a cryptozoology themed theme park down the comments.

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But let's go ahead and start chatting with my friend Max Lim from Maximus Prime R. All right, Bigfoot Society. Thanks for coming back to another episode. I have the privilege of talking with someone I've talked to online for a lot, Max Lim, but this is my first time actually talking to you through the screen, I guess. Hopefully we'll be able to meet someday, maybe at the VAM. meter visitor festival or something.

But, yeah, Max, let's give the audience a background before we get into it. And so I've got a bio from you here. I'm going to go ahead and read that. So Max Lim is a St. Louis, St. Louis based transaction attorney who specializes in health care and real estate law. At the beginning of COVID, Max found out he was going to be a father. Congratulations. And decided to get back into art.

Max wanted to create something special. for a son's nursery, and after his wife, and he decided on the Bigfoot team nursery, amazing, he set out to make his wall decor with kid-friendly Bigfoot designs. Max's projects soon evolved into an ABC book featuring Squatchy, along with a series of cute cryptic characters. His artwork served as a creative outlet for his passions of lore and art from his younger days. When Max is not illustrating, he spends his free time researching and learning new stories and spending time with his family.

after accomplishing his first goal of creating a book for his son. Also, congratulations. Max set his sights on building a cryptic theme park. That's cool as well. Max is currently working on a detailed map of the United States featuring cryptids and lore from each state. So, Max, I have you primarily on the show because you're an amazing artist on Etsy. Your stuff is really cool. You're killing it, and I'm a huge fan of it.

the Iowa part of your map is a really cool interpretation of the Van Meter Visitor. I'm a huge fan of that, of course. But I just got to start out by asking, so it sounds like, did you have a love for cryptids when you were younger then? Or is this something that just kicked in in the last few years? Definitely when I was younger. So I want to say it was probably around like, I want to say six or eight, somewhere around that age group. My sister went over to Lochness, and she visited Lochness Lake. So she brought me back cool things, and I read about Lochness Monster growing up,

and definitely got into all the Bigfoot stuff, whatever was available back then. So it got me really into it, and I loved watching and reading about different things for all the cryptids out there. I got really into ghosts when I was a kid, completely terrified of them. But I really liked some of the stories. and as it just evolved, there were more TV shows, more different publications about them. So I just kept growing and reading about all the different cryptids there were. That is awesome. Do you have a favorite cryptid that you've learned to love?

I want to say, like, so my gateway cryptid was definitely Bigfoot. It got me really deep into everything. And then Mossman was a big favorite. So I want to say the Fresno Nightcrawlers, those are probably my favorite. Yeah. Okay. Just love them. They're like spooky leggings really.

good footage on them and I just really like them. The Fresno Nightcrawlers, that's a fun one man. Like for sure. When you were getting into stuff, what was your, was there a certain program or a movie that kind of sucked you into the Bigfoot thing? Oh, Bigfoot one, movies and stuff like that. Definitely fighting Bigfoot was a big one. Okay. And then, what was it, Harry and Henderson?

So that was a good one when I was a kid. Those were a great one. And then even like the new, I think is an expedition Bigfoot that's out right now? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So that's a huge one that my wife and I, we love watching right now. And it's just good to get fresh material on Bigfoot out there. So, yes, we're big believers.

That's awesome. And so I'm noticing that you're saying we. So your wife is along for the ride on this. Oh, definitely. Yeah. That's amazing. When I first met her, actually it was on our first day, I asked her, like, what's the strangest thing about you?

We just dope straight into Bigfoot Lochness and all the cryptids out there. So I was like, this is the one. I know it. This is it. It went well. I wanted to know that I was going to have someone that I could talk to you about this stuff and not really hide it or pretend I didn't like it or just kind of keep it on the side so people didn't think anything of me.

So I wanted someone that knew me. I love that. Oh, that is so cool. being in St. Louis, do you ever get over to Kansas City? Actually, I just went for like the first time like two weeks ago because one of my best friends moved out there. But I've rarely never gone out to Kansas City. Oh, man. I think, well, there's a there's a huge garden outside of Kansas City called, I want to say it's Powell's Gardens or Howells, something like that.

But when we went down and visited, unbeknownst to us, they had a huge, mythology exhibit throughout the garden. And this is a huge garden, multi-acres. So like you go around the corner and you'd have like a huge bigfoot statue.

And it turns out the guy that made those statues, he is the guy that's coming out with the world, I want to say it's the world myth museum. Okay.

And that's going to be down in I think the Kansas City area. But, uh, okay. I think I heard about that new museum that they were trying to build out. So it's a huge, huge deal.

for sure, especially for the Midwest. We'll take all the weird stuff we can get. A lot out here. Have you found being in Missouri, have you found any, do you have any cryptids that are, you like from your home state of Missouri? So we have the Missouri Monster, the MoMA, it's like Bigfoot variation.

I think a few people have heard about. But then, actually it was because of your podcast, I learned about the Butterfly people from the, Joplin area. Yeah, that was a really cool one. And then actually through this, I met a guy named Carter Reeves, who does another podcast. And he taught me about the Tuscoma space penguins. Yeah.

So that's just a really weird tale. It's like almost cryptos slash alien side. But those are probably like the top three good cryptids here in Missouri that aren't too far for me. Yeah, Carter's a good dude for sure. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's another guy. I need to, I need to meet somebody because he's, well, I don't want to dox anyone. He's not that, we'll say he's not that far away from one of us.

Yeah. He's a good dude, though. So curious, I mean, your art is very good. And I feel like this is a thing where it's like, you weren't just in the middle of COVID. And you're like, oh, I'm just going to get an iPad and like a fancy Apple pencil. And oh, man, I'm really. really good at this. Like, you probably were doing it back in the day. I appreciate that. Yeah, so back in high school, I was traditional artists. I mean, growing up, I always sketched and like drawn, doodle as a kid. And then in high school, I did a lot of sculpting classes and a lot of different art classes. And I did a few shows here. So it was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. But growing up in a Chinese American household, we kind of really had two career paths. So I had to put aside my love and passions for law and medicine. So I chose law and that's how I became a lawyer.

But now, COVID and having a child really opened up my perspective and kind of just got me back into it. And, you know, it's scary buying an iPad. I never really liked to buy myself all the fancy things. So I dove into that. I really didn't like drawing with an iPad. I thought it was really weird from like a traditional standpoint. But it turns out I loved it. That's awesome.

That is awesome. Yeah, I mean, I think there's so many stories that are similar to that of people just being locked down in COVID. And like how many podcasts and different weird cryptid things would not exist if we never had to go through that. It's a very weird thing to think about. But you've done, I want to say you're also, it feels like you're so you're into art, but it's like you also have like a very like entrepreneur sense like you are trying all the cool things uh over the years or i not that long actually but um you've done a you did a kickstarter

which was uh you're wearing one of the shirts right there there we go you got squatchy the little little squash guy on there so if you're listening to this on the podcast you got to go over YouTube to see it. But what was that? Was that your first Kickstarter that you launched or how was that experience? That was good. It was my first Kickstarter. I've tried a few different business opportunities before in the past.

And, you know, each one kind of just taught me a lot of different things. I didn't think it took off as much as I wanted to do. And so it brought us to where I found a passion for art and got to relive that, making my kids book. and then getting into Kickstarter, that was just a fun thing. I think I saw someone on TikTok that did a really nice embroidered anime shirts. And I was like, hey, we should do that for cryptids. There's a lot of different apparel out there.

A lot of them are larger prints on T-shirts, which looks awesome. But I wanted to wear something that was a little bit more subtle, wear it every day, go out there. So I just sat down and took some of my cool little cute art and then made simple embroidered designs with it, found out of a vendor. and it was awesome. It was a little bit more tough during COVID since there's a lot of supply chain issues, but it was a lot of fun to learn how to do it. And now I want to roll out a few more kickstaters with cryptid stuff. So I'm definitely all for it now.

Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Did you find, I'm just curious, this is more for myself personally. Did you find it's hard to translate your designs over to embroidered? Oh, yeah.

Is that hard or is that, just me because it's like, that sucks. I had to revisit a few of them. And then once we started embroidering, I was like, oh, cool, I can pick the colors. And then the colors I chose weren't really the same, like, thread colors. Yeah. And then I had just a whole wall of, like, probably 10 different yellows to pick out for one of my colors. I was like, oh, it was just so overwhelming looking at everything.

I'm not a big fan of a lot of choices. So I was like, oh, let's just get with this. And then we went through embroidered, changed up the design. and got new thread colors. But it finally worked out really well. Wow. Yeah, it's people, if you get it if you get it. Like if you've ever tried to like make embroidered stuff,

it can be really frustrating. But anyways, when you're coming up with these designs, like you've got Squatchy, you've got Bat Squatch as an enamel PING, you've got Van Meter Visitor and these little cute, little cute versions of the cryptids, Did you find, did you use, are these like you just reached inside your head and came up with these versions? Or did you look to different things for inspiration? You know what I mean?

Is this just something like it was just floating around in Max's head? It was kind of just floating around there. I think I just take a live inspiration from my nerdy side. I'm a huge anime person, so I grew up on my Giyu Haka show, DBZ, and all. the good grades from back in the 90s. And so I always had like, I guess my art style was always kind of cartoonish in that style. So I love seeing the different inspirations that people put out there for like Bigfoot and all the other ones. And then I just want to translate that to like a kid friendly nice logo for it.

So that's how I just kind of did it. It took me a lot of times in revision, just rework into designs on how do you take something like as big as big foot and then shrink them down to like a tiny little guy. Totally, totally. Oh, man. Did you find yourself leaning on any particular books

as you were getting these guys ready? Did you have any resources that you can't go back to? Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. I definitely like to

Cryptid Wiki online. I was going through a lot, but I went to a library and I got like the encyclopedia of Cryptozo and then I think A to Z cryptozoology. So those were really big bucks in like the encyclopedia one. That thing's a massive textbook.

It is. So that was a really cool one and I could siphon through there and just like see all the different cryptids there were. And I was just trying to choose. If data management is slowing down your business. You need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI-native ERP solution that consolidates, migrates, and automates, all in one place.

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Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Rees. Legends and folk war that we had around the U.S. is like my big first jumping off point, and then I kind of branch out to other countries and different legends as like went on. Wow.

That it's in how many different, how many different cryptids are you up to now, roughly? That's something I didn't go in and count. For the shirts, I want to say we did about 15. 12 to 15 different designs. I think we had about 18, and a few of them people just didn't want them. So I was cool with that, and we just didn't embroidered them. And we went with the big ones

and then kind of analyzed where we were and did some data analytics and then just kind of pumped up the numbers from there on the bigger ones. But the traditional ones, it's like, Mothman, Bigfoot, ghost design. Those were like the big three that everyone kind of wanted, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, no, totally.

It does. The book, Squatchy's Adventure from A to Z. So you make the design. Where does that come into play again? Is it you make the shirt after, you make the book after the Kickstarter or what's the timeline on that? That one started before. So I want to say it was early of 2020.

We found out my wife was pregnant. So we did some wall art. so we could decorate his room. And then the wall art kind of really adventured into just a really short-lived comic series with Bigfoot, Squatchy and his little friends meeting some of the Yetis, Mothman, some other people. And then I really liked the character design from there and wanted to do an ABC book from that since there's just so many different cryptids out there.

I was like, oh, how cool would that be to have a kid-friendly cryptids book where you could explore the different cryptids and legends around the, world basically. Kids could get associated with Bigfoot, Mothman Yeti, Praxie, as they grew up and they would just have like cute little versions with them as they grew up and then they could explore

into the bigger versions and the videos and everything else. That is really cool. So when you say from A to Z literally you are, you're taking a different cryptid for each letter of the alphabet and yeah, I brought a book just in case.

Nice. But, you're Yeah, we can go like right there. You can see like some from like Japan and China. Oh, very cool. And then we got to the, I guess the big ones for Mothman. So you can go from there and then go over to Africa and some other legends. But yeah, we definitely tried to find all the legends from A to Z, which some of them are a lot harder. Z was definitely a harder one for me just because there's not a lot of Z named cryptids out there.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then, like, I had to some other, like, legends. Like, I went down with South American lore for the exes, but it wasn't a lot out there for those harder ones. You'd think that it'd be a little bit easier, but it was kind of a little tricky for some letters. I love that.

Like, I'm definitely, I'm going to have to pick up one of those from your Etsy for sure. My kid loves the, uh, uh, mothman learns the ABCs. Oh, that's a great book too. We got that one. So it's crazy. Like for us, it was, it's the TV shows.

That's the gateway drugs. But for right now, all these kids growing up, they've got books. Yes, they have so much stuff. Like your book is going to be the gateway. I hope so. That would be such a fun thing to see. For sure, for sure. Have you found, you know, over the last few years,

have you been able to go and start checking out any cryptic theme spot? or, you know, like, anything like that? Not yet. We, uh, my wife and I, we definitely want to do like a big foot, I guess, I don't know, like a hike with somebody that's experienced out there, but we went over, um, we did a few hikes out in, I think the Smoky Mountains, we were just talking with locals out there, and they were just telling us all the different spots that they were and they had their encounter.

So we did, we did go out for a little few hikes out there, just check out. And she makes a great big foot call out there. and we just sit there and we'll listen and it was just really peaceful to be out of nature but I could totally see how you could miss them we went to Alaska back last summer and we were out there looking for moose and they're super hard to find

and it took us like three or four days of hiking but we finally found one but it was just so like unnoticeable in the and all the moose? Yeah as huge as those are too and they're just grazing and kind of fields and I was like if I'm missing I'm missing this like 20 feet away for me.

I could totally miss a big foot. Dude, if you want to see moose, I'm going to let you know. So I'm from New England originally. You go up to northern New Hampshire to like the Pittsburgh area, Kangamangas Highway. Literally, you're driving around. You'll run into 13. We saw 13 moose in an hour like that, that's twilight, you know,

like almost dark but not really tight. So New England's got the moose. into the boost. Check it out. Go out there. Okay. I know where to go. You know where to go, man. That's cool. So I would love that. I'm going to have to try. That's an experience I haven't had yet where it's like go somewhere, be able to talk to a local about like their Bigfoot sightings. That is a very special thing. Yeah. It was cool because you can hear the different stories about them and everything seems very like it's a calm experience.

like they just feel like they've been watching tracks and make sure things are good in nature, but it's cool, but kind of freaky. Like one guy was telling me about how he was hiking along a river path, and he could just hear the footsteps along on the other side of the river, and it was dark. And every time he stopped, the footprints would stop.

And I was like, oh, that's terrifying. Like in the woods, but if you know it's kind of big foot and peaceful, it's good, I guess. Or he's going to rip you. your face off. Exactly. Which I think he's a nice dude. I try to believe that, especially if I'm alone in the dark in the woods.

Yeah. What is, what do you feel that Bigfoot is? What's your, how do you explain him? Oh, you know, I do like, there's been a lot of theories. I like the theory where it's almost a dimensional creature, where it passes through. and, you know, I play around with different thoughts, like, why do they knock on trees? And I kind of wonder if it's, like, a way for them to get back, just different thoughts and stuff like that. Dude, I've never heard that.

That's amazing. Although I've never read a lot of books about it, but that's really cool. Yeah, that's just kind of my theory. Because, like, you'll see the evidence of, like, I want to say their LIDAR, like, just the heat map scans. You'll see them right there, and then they just all of a sudden vanish. which is kind of weird, yeah. So if they're vanaging, are they going into another dimension? Or it's kind of hard to just turn off your body heat sensors on the middle of nowhere.

And I know you're, there was a part in one of the Expedition Bigfoot's episodes last season where I think they saw something like that happened where it's like there on the thermal, then gone. I don't know how you explain that, you know. Exactly. But I like that. That is really interesting because most people will say, well, the tree knocks or knocking the rocks together, that's like communication. But maybe they're opening up like a big foot stargate, dude. I don't know. I don't know.

That's kind of my fun theory where I'm going with there. There's just a lot of tree knocks and there's like, why are they doing it? I can see it's a communication, but maybe it's some secret code they're in touch with nature and they can figure away. back. If not, you've got quite the story there. And that might be a good. So that's Max's theory. No one steal it.

You'll make a cool sci-fi book out of it, maybe. Let's talk. And I'm going to have like a thing at the beginning of this episode where it's like none of this is financial advice. So don't worry. Are you cool with talking about your, your uh your uh nfts adventures yeah definitely all right so what's an nfti oh we got we guys start there for some people NFTs were like non fungible tokens and it's tough to explain

without like looking at something all the time but it's almost it's like data that's solidified on the blockchain so that it's a unique representation that you would show ownership through very data from other verifications on the blockchain, which is a really cool thing, especially with artwork and seeing where a lot of different projects are taking, that it's producing a lot of funding for small-time projects. And they can go a much bigger where they go from there and kind of branch out from there and really build in the funding for it to the artists and the creators, get all the funding up frontwards.

Like, you look at music producers. When you sign on to the label, you lose, I don't know, 50, 60% of your revenue because it's going to branding and publications, marketing, and those kind of things. But with NFTs, that creator would get all the money and they can distribute it however they want to. So it's a cool, big step with everything. It's still real tricky to me. And, you know, the NFT adventure, it didn't go as well as I'd hope it would be. And I needed to redraw the NFT map. So I know a few people did purchase this.

and I need to reach out to a few people to let them know because I'm going to do air drops for them whenever I launch, relaunch it again and try to get it back up. I don't like that's cool. Projects going just not taking off as well as I thought it would be, but I'm definitely figuring out the utility. I keep a little notebook wherever I jot down my ideas. So I'm going back into that going to go hardcore into that one too. That's awesome. And the idea behind that NFT venture was to raise money for, you're pretty much your passion project someday you want to uh launch a cryptic team park correct

yes correct so yeah uh that's still the overall goal i'm just revisiting how do i get to the to the to the end step right there but yeah so i'm we're getting into NFTs again quick blur it will be it will be almost like a cryptic comic series so i need to develop some storylines from there and i'm going to build that out and hopefully build out a few revenue streams and maybe new shows coming out with that, maybe YouTube shows animated, cryptic shows, and then go back into it and hopefully build into the theme park that way. Legit, legit. Are you a growing up where you were a big theme park kid, or is that just something that you

were like, want to get it out there in this way? Definitely a big theme park kid. I grew up, we have six flags here in St. Louis, so I would go out there almost every day with my friends. We had the season pass. Our family, we went down to Disney World. My sisters and I, we love going there. Frontier ran $40 round-trip tickets from St. Louis to Orlando.

So we had to jump on those randomly. But, yeah, we grew up with theme parks all of our lives. And I just love the magic that's out there. And I thought it would be cool to have something that's cryptid-related theories, almost like a spooky park, basically. that anything that's weird and unnatural and that would just have its own theme park would be much more fun and you have Disney that's the glamour side of everything and then you have the cryptid side of things totally so run me through what's your what's your when you try to imagine what this cryptic theme park looks like in your head like what's what do you see what's your what's your dream there it's a jumbled nuts right now for the cryptic theme park i just actually started designing some stuff for it and just kind of laying out like a foundation based off of like other theme park maps but i think it'd be cool to have different like rides that are associated with it like i've seen

roller coaster rides where they would go through like a forest and you would pass by like big foot kind of running along the tracks with um your roller coaster ride yeah and then kind of disappear and then maybe a jump scare out there comes at you. Kind of like the Expedition Bigfoot or Expedition Everest ride at Disney. There's a cool Yeti one out there, and that gives me a lot of inspiration that local legends could have their own, like, huge ride out there. Or back in the day, I want to say this is Six Flags. One of the Six Flags had like a Superman ride where it was like you were going back and forth

on the side of a mountain, like, through the tree. I may have just made it up, but I'm pretty sure it's real. It's a weird roller coaster set up, but a big foot version of that would be pretty wild too. Yeah. I thought that'd be cool. Yeah. Where would your theme park be ideally set in the U.S.? Ideally, I would probably put it in West Virginia just because that's like, for me, that's the capital, weird, everything out there.

They have all the legends, but then I kind of want to put it here in my own hometown of things. Louis just because it is central USA and everyone could fly in and be great to see St. Louis. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. Go back into a big hub city and kind of take over again. But who knows? Yeah.

Plus, we don't really have a lot of cryptic stuff out in St. Louis. So I like to build that up myself. You don't for sure. But you do have one of the coolest museums ever. City Museum. Have you gone to that? Oh, yeah. I love the City Museum. It's such a fun time. I met the artist before he passed away a long time ago, and he was just, his theories and

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climb around, all that stuff. So you met the guy who came up with the city museum? Yeah, I think his name was, wow. It's been almost a decade since the last time when I met him. But yeah, it was just a really nice guy too. Man, then if people don't, people don't know what we're talking about, if there's any chance you ever going to go to St. Louis, don't look up the city museum, just go.

Oh, yeah. It's just experienced as a mystery, because that's what I did my first time, me and my family. We had no idea what we were getting into. And it just blew our minds. It was amazing. It's an immersive world.

It's just cool to see art come to life, basically. It's like you think, easy way. Do you think if you think Meow Wolf out of Vegas is good now, this is the original crazy immersive museum experience that's just going to blow your mind. Oh yeah. I want to try out those Meow Wolf places. They look really good too. Yeah, I'm always living vicarously through Jacob the carpet beggar and you know, those YouTube guys where they just like travel around whatever's. but something that I saw you working on the other day in one of your TikToks. We'll get to TikTok in a minute.

But your new venture, you're trying out vinyl rings with Sasquatch on them. Oh, yeah. What's the story behind that? That is cool. That was just something. I saw Enzo rings. They were doing Disney princesses on their rings, basically etching in faces and stuff. I was like, oh, why not?

Let's do Bigfoot. Yeah. I reached out to them, you know, no avail since I was just a smaller shop and everything. But I thought, oh, cool. Let's just design out a new ring. And we got a laser printer for everything. And now I'm just going to start making silicone rings because I love these things. Wow.

I don't wear my actual wedding ring just because I got a little bit bigger for me when I got through COVID and stuff. And then I'm a really active person. We're doing volleyball and weightlifting. So it would always rub. And I'd always have to wear a silicone. want so. I was like, why not have a subtle one that has, um, accrypted on there and then we'll believe just to keep reminding us to believe out there. Wow. And it's safer for you too, you know, it's vinyl. So if you, you know, something falls on your hand, you're not going to

like, you know, break your finger off or whatever. Yeah, I never realized there's like a lot of incidences where people like have to amputate their fingers because of the wedding ring. Oh yeah. No clue about that. So you have a, you have your own. laser printer for this. Yes. We got that at the end of last year, just a little treat, and we're going to try to step up all the artwork and just get a lot more cryptid stuff for people.

Dude, that is so cool. Plansom maybe putting any other cryptids on rings or just stick with the Sasquatch for now, get that under your belt. Yeah, we have probably like five or six designs I kind of went through with Lockness and Moth, Man, a UFO one, just because I feel like there's a huge, huge alien population out there.

And then I'm going to start working on a ghost and spooky one for all the Halloween season. Oh, man, dude. Yeah, definitely some cool designs that we're going to put together for that. Just real simple, subtle one. It looks like a regular silicone ring, but if you get up close, you can see the details. You'll see

it all carved out. And your favorite cryptid will be out there. I feel like a lot of my projects have been based about hometown legends, big home cryptids. Like, everybody has their favorite home state legend. And everyone grows up somewhere around the U.S.

They have, for sure, for sure. Ohio has the Frogman, everyone in Pacific Northwest. They have Bigfoot and everything. So I was like, everyone has their favorite legend. Let's just do something for everybody. Dude, here's what I want to see. This would be cool. And this is a free one for you.

So you can be like what else. But what if you had set of two rings on one ring is half the Squatch Face. the other ring is the other half of the squatch face. It's like, oh, these are our wedding rings. And when you put them together, you see the squatch face. Like, I love that you said that. You know, but whatever. It's actually, so I did that with my wife's ring that we split the

Oh, really? It's on the right and left. And boom, you can match them together. But I love, I love that we think like. Yeah, there you go. That's cool. It's cool. So let's get into,

want to talk about your TikTok stuff. And I will preface this by saying Max is going to, so I'm doing a clubhouse panel next Wednesday, I want to say the 9th, where it's going to be a group of us talking about how paranormal TikTok is and why to become involved and what can happen. So this is cool that I'm talking to you before then.

because maybe we can get a little bit more detailed into things than we would be on the panel. Yeah, for sure. So what has your TikTok adventure been like to you so far? It's been awesome. At first, you know, when TikTok first came out, it didn't go as well. I didn't know how to make video content. And I was just kind of piecing things together. I got frustrated and I just put it aside.

I was like, I don't have time to learn a new platform. Like Instagram was my platform where I learned things. and it went really well. Instagram grew and then I don't know, it's like, it was about a month ago. I was just randomly

wanted to pick up TikTok and started my new Crypted States project. And I was just kind of posting it out there and still rarely a couple hundred people which I was like,

oh cool, it's getting some engagement. And then it was like the last video for the night. I was like, oh, we'll just put together, slap something together.

And that video just blew up and it went viral. So that's been a lot of fun and then just cranking out and trying to match the speed with people. And it's just awesome to connect with so many more cryptid lovers out there. I just feel like I have that same engagement on Instagram and all. So let's explain what going viral on TikTok is because people don't get it unless they're on the platform.

So literally, let's say your most viral video, how many people have seen this thing just so people get what we're talking about? So before I got into it, I had maybe 100 people following my art site. My viral video went 550,000 people saw this video. So it went huge. And now I'm up to like 28,000 followers on TikTok. It's crazy. That was over a month of, and it just grows organically, which is just so awesome. The creators and artists, anyone that has something to say,

it's just great to get like a natural audience following you without having to pay for ad walls or just kind of getting out anything out there. It grows so organically, which is fun. It's wild. So, like, I'm guessing on some of your videos, you probably have hundreds or more comments, probably maybe even thousands. I don't know. Yeah.

I think that first one, I think I got somewhere around four or five thousand comments on there. So just responding that it takes a while, I'll try and get through everybody, try to go through there. And once you start pumping out more, everyone's just commenting left and right. It's just a chaotic mess of everything. But it's awesome to see all the likes, comments, engagements. Yeah. And just getting out to reach more people.

It's just been so awesome. For sure, for sure. So there's another, of course, there's, you know, when you start getting so many eyes on your stuff, has this affected, you know, your Etsy stuff? It has. So Etsy, Um, Etsy went well first, um, I think, I think first year we had 300 sales all, all year. So that was about the pace.

And then this last month, we've done 300 sales. So it drove traffic like crazy. Oh my goodness. And I don't know if I'm like just producing better content or my art's getting better or just what's happening. But it's just been going crazy. So I'd ship out one, one, like a few items, handful of items before. Yeah.

And now I'm going to the post office with like a box of 50 things, just shipping out like twice a week now. And it was just crazy. Wow. Good for you. It's been a lot of fun. I appreciate that so many people have just been loving it. So it's made me even so much more motivated to keep pumping out artwork now. Like I'll set up to 1 or 2 a.m. just designing out a new state just so I can get more people happy because everyone accommodated.

They want their state. So I'm like, yeah, let's just crank it out. I'm like so motivated and pumped up right now. I'm fired up. Oh, man. I love it. I love it. And once you get the whole U.S. states done, are you going to, is it going to be like a big print?

Or what are your plans with? Because that's going to be a really cool graphic. Yeah. So it's going to be, I think like putting together a lot of different ideas. We're going to have a regular map, just a print map for people to have a couple sizes for the posters, some scratch off maps. So people who travel to the states can scratch it off. Yes. You can just have wherever you want.

I thought that would be just like a whole map. fun cryptid road trip journey. So people come back up there. Yeah, dude. And then some coloring books too. So yeah, we have a whole bunch of stuff out there. Oh, Max. You just killed it.

You just won. So you're going to have a, it's like a coloring book with like a different state on each page? Yep. And then I might, I haven't decided I want to write a little about the legends. And probably most people don't know which legends or what from outside. So I just do a little blurb out there so they can read about it.

But yeah, my new adult coloring book for a cryptic. That's a great idea. What do you think? What's been the most requested state? I want to say to Wisconsin and West Virginia have sold awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

But right now coming up, I want to say anywhere Washington, Oregon, or Michigan, everyone loves a dogman up there. And there's like six good legends up in Michigan too. So I'm pumped to try to get out the first version of everything. and then go back and then redo all the different legends that people have there, too, even the smaller one. I love that idea. I was guessing it would, because this, man, Hodag fans in Wisconsin.

Oh, yeah. They go crazy for the Hodag. Ravenous, dude. Ravenous. I want to go to that Hodag festival that they have up there. I hear it. It's just amazing. It's, yeah, I got invited to go up.

I had some stuff going on. I could not make it happen. but it sounds like a really, really fun time. Yeah, definitely does, because they love their Hodeg up there. And Ben from the Hodag store is a super cool dude. We got to hang out at the Van Meter Visitor Festival last year. There was actually quite a few Wisconsin people there. It was a good time.

Oh, awesome. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Can you give us any previews on any other ideas you might have? coming down? Yeah. A big one I'm working on right now. It's just going to be, I haven't decided to decide, but right now it's said at an 8 by 10 print.

It's going to be a big foot digital treasure hunt right now. So I'm going to hide clues in my artwork for people to basically purchase the print, find the clues in there and solve the puzzle, and I'm going to put up 500 bucks for people to win, basically. And then hopefully if that sells well, It's going to just keep funding each further treasure hunt. And I was going to hopefully take money from the sales and profits and put it into the pot, too, just so it can keep growing as time goes on.

But I thought Bigfoot would be the big first one to go for. I love the movie National Treasure, basically. Oh, yeah, for sure. And just watching the big old page, just like salt puzzles and everything. I was like, oh, that's so fun. Why not do it ourselves? I like that idea. Yeah, it's, I'm psyched they're bringing Disney Pluses.

making a national treasure series. Oh yeah. I thought they were going to make a third movie too. I thought so too, man. Yeah, I'm so excited. It's been so long. I've been wanting that for the longest time. For sure. Through all the eyes on your TikTok account, has that led to any interesting interactions that you are not expecting to have or like, like, wow, this person is anything cool like that? or?

I've met with a lot of, like, bigger creators, so that's been a lot of fun right there. Like, people with, like, 200,000 people following them. So it's awesome to connect with them. I'll see them pop up. I'm like, oh, I follow these people. Oh, man, that's cool. It's a big shock right there. But then I guess I'm getting into the tattoo game right now with some of my cryptid state arts.

So people are one of them, yeah. So I've been developing tattoo passes, people, except. now about five or six of them. Okay, I'm sorry, I don't know what. You said tattoo pass? I'm not sure what that means. Yeah, so I looked up, I guess it's the lawyer's side of me of how do I license out my artwork without people stealing it and getting permissions.

And I guess larger tattoo parlors, they like to see, they do their own art. But if they're having someone come in with their own artwork, they want to kind of see like a letter or path or something that shows that the artist is given their consideration. consent to like, oh, you can put this on this person's body and stuff. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. And maybe it's just random like Google searches for me, but I thought that was the best way to protect myself and my artwork and still let people get their past tattoos out there.

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That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. I thought that's just awesome, basically seeing my work on someone's body like that. Wow, so people have been using, like, having tattoos done of your characters? I guess so. No way. I'm going to get them out, so I'm still waiting to see what the final results look like. But, yeah, my North Carolina, some of my Dirtfoot comic series, and then, I think, a few other states.

But I've been getting, like, random requests to do commissions for tattoos. and new states and new projects. So that's been a lot of fun seeing that come out. I love it. It's exciting. It's definitely turning into a huge deal for sure. Definitely. I hope to get up to 50,000 just so I can get like,

I feel like TikTok has different tier levels. So if you hit like a different follower level, you like unlock a new feature of TikTok as a creator, which is kind of weird for me. but it's like leveling up in a video game. So that's what it is. Yeah. So once I get there, I think I can put together like playlists and different cool things.

It's much more organized. Yeah. That's because right now it's a chaotic mess of my feed, just whatever I put out there and just my products and stuff. But I am so excited about that. Like I will sleep. I'm like midnight till 6 a.m. That's like my sleep schedule sometimes. Like the majority of the day.

Yeah. I'm just so fired up like trying to make. things, yeah. Just make it happen. Are there any plans for you to go out to any cryptid festivals? Right now, the only one for sure is Cryptid Bash. So that's when I'm trying to be. Oh, my goodness.

The Moth Boys are off meeting them. So I am pumped to go there and I'm looking to Van Meter just because that's pretty close to my place. It's really close to you. I'm like five or six hours drive for Mesao. Dude. That's very doable. I am so jealous.

One year I'm going to be able to go out. out to CryptoBash. It's on the list. This year I'm doing Crypticon and, of course, fan meter because I live like 20 minutes away from it. Yeah. But I'm excited. That's perfect.

You'll be able to go out to Kirby Bash and you're going to have like lots of your stuff to sell, I would imagine. Definitely. Like I've, I've ramped up like I have orders coming in like probably every couple of days from my sticker manufacturer and my art prints and stuff. Yeah. So we got like a nice printer.

I can print off stuff. I've been finding new vendors and just trying to find out a whole bunch of new things. So hopefully, hopefully Mothman Festival is going on this year. I'm not sure. But if that doesn't, I know I have Cryptabash as my safety net where I want to just go big with a lot of, I would try to bring in some fun like Easter eggs like surprises for that one too.

Dude. I'm loving it. Like, it's party time. I'm curious. This will be one of the last questions. But I'm curious as a, this is kind of a nerd out question. Who do you think is the better sticker maker?

Like a manufacturer? Yeah, who do you partner with? Oh, I partner with a Zug Monster. They're a little bit slower. Yeah, so they're a little bit slower, but man, the prices are awesome. Really? It takes me probably about a week, week and a half

to get from order to delivery. So it takes a good time for it. But they just ran a sale for a three-inch stickers, 50 of them for 20 bucks. And they make fantastic stickers. Like, matties, glossy, they can do chrome. They can do everything. So I love them because sticker blitz is really good if it's fast in a pinch. You'll get in like, once they got mine three or four days.

So that's really good turnaround time for like any big orders. That's really good. in a pinch for something. Stickermail is good. I think they're like the gateway jump ball for everybody. Yeah, they are. Yeah, definitely if you get a chance, check out Zug Monster.

And if you want to test out stickers, there was a good guy, let's make stickers or let's print stickers, one of the two, but he'll do 100 stickers for 20 bucks. That's really good, too. Yeah, I mean, I'll have to check that out. He does like a cricket and stuff,

but he still does great, works if you want to do like promos or giveaways in like your sticker packages super easy way to get those affordable yeah dude i'm i'm i'm telling you what i'm going to be so i'm at the van meer visitor festival i'm going to be vending that's the plan this year and i have got a exclusive design by jonathan dodd for just a festival that is going to rock some faces i think it's going to be fun my idol of like cryptic artists like I just watch him like pump out content oh all praise to jonathan dodd so good too yeah for sure oh man max thank you so much for coming on i i've wanted to have this chat for a long time um so i'm i'm really thankful that you came on um how can

people what's the best way for people to keep up to date with uh you know your new designs and what's going on and all that good stuff. So I actually just started my website, Maximeart.com. You can go there, sign up for the newsletter. I'll be doing that hopefully this month. And that's where I'm going to be sending out a lot of my newsletters for the updated products, new designs.

I have my cryptid states map updated there and then kind of my roadmap on how I'm going to build a cryptic theme park. Just rough idea on how there is. Yeah. So a few project ideas on how I'm going to build up. to it, but let's see where this journey takes us. Dude, I love it. Awesome.

Well, thank you so much for coming on. And for those listening, if you've enjoyed this conversation with Max, and even if you haven't, but if you haven't, shame on you. But Max has agreed to hang out for a little bit longer. We'll be chatting for an extended conversation for Patreon supporters. I think we're going to talk maybe about some ghosts or some weird stuff. Who knows? Always a fun time. So thanks so much for coming on, Max.

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