Bigfoot Society - Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron 12 (11/6/22): PATRICK VAUGHN, LOUISIANA AND ARKANSAS BIGFOOT,
Episode Date: November 10, 2022Recorded 11/06/22Welcome to the twelfth episode of Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron.A live call in show on Youtube where I talk to people and hear their story live about the weird and unexplained.C...all-in guest(s) on tonight show:Caller: Patrick Vaughn with some amazing stories of him interacting with a Bigfoot group for 16 plus years.Do you have a story to share or know someone who should call in?Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sunday nights at 9 pm CST.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QWe'll see you at the next Open Phone Lines on Youtube!
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It walked out of thicket.
It turned around and looked at me.
It was a monkey man and the monkey man jumped down out of the tree.
It started running away.
And suddenly they're right in front of the car.
He slams on the bright.
and manage to stop and you're skidding because it's like quite, you know, and gravelling.
And literally for about a second and a half, they just stood there because they don't know where to
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Welcome back to Bigfoot Society, a podcast where we focus on cryptids, the strange and the
unexplained of this world. If you've got a story or something weird to share, send an email over to me
at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.
And if you'd like to support this show, head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society.
And now on with the show.
Good evening on this Sunday night for strange stories with Jeremiah Byron.
Number 12.
We are 12 episodes in.
Good to see some people hanging out already with us.
We've got Memphis Song hanging out.
Good to see you again.
and we got Mr. Mike Casey.
Hey, fam.
Good to see you, Mike.
Always a pleasure.
Yeah, so if you're new here, this is Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron.
We're 12 episodes in.
And if you've got a story to share on our show, this is a live calling show.
It's live on YouTube.
And it is also recorded for the Bigfoot Society podcast.
And I also have put together a separate podcast for this as well.
So if you want to just listen to the strange story stuff by itself, you can head over to look up on iTunes.
You look up Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron.
And there's a podcast just for this show.
It'll start with episode 10.
That's when stuff started to get good, I think.
And you can always hear the other stuff on the Bigfoot.
society, but check that out, subscribe to that. I know it's on iTunes. It's kind of slowly getting
to other places, but we'll chat for a few minutes while we wait for our first caller to
head on in on this Sunday night before most of us head back to work in the morning.
I appreciate you all being here. Hopefully we hear some good stories tonight. I know last
Thursday was a pretty wild episode. We had, we had some crazy, interesting stories. Actually, the last two episodes, the ones that come to mind were, you know, we had the young woman call in from the Pacific Northwest. She called about the Bigfoot encounter from the Lake Cushman area of Washington State.
And then there was an camping experience she had where she experienced some really interesting feelings in the woods over by the Mount Rainier bumping lake area.
So that was a very interesting call.
She had some potential dogman stories from Michigan as well.
And then I had a caller from Ontario that had some really interesting.
canine stories, a random dog in the woods and a bipedal canine in an alleyway. We've got Matt's
tube of you. Hey, everyone, good to see you, Matt. Thank you for hanging out with us. This is
strange stories with Jeremiah Byron. If you've got a story, and it could be anything, you know,
cryptid, bigfoot related, weird stuff, strange, unknown, paranormal UFO alien. You can go ahead and
call on into 515-809-0165.
If you have a friend that should be calling in with a story,
you can go ahead and send them a little message right now.
Say, hey, you need to call into this guy's live show.
It's going on right now from 9 to 10 p.m. Central Standard Time.
Call 515-809-0165.
And we'll be chatting a little bit before we get our first caller.
I know it's someone's putting in the digits right now,
515-809-0165. I can feel it. I can feel. I'm going to take a little drink.
Something cool I found out today. Future listeners will want to know this is that, you know,
Tony Merkel from the Confessionals, his documentary about Dogman is out in different places.
You can get on Amazon, but you can also get it on Tooby as well.
So if you're wanting a free option to watch his documentary, you can definitely.
check out.
The 2B app, TUBI, has a lot of really good, awesome, bigfoot encrypted stuff.
And now it's got Expedition Dog Man.
So I can't wait to watch that one.
I know it's going to be a really good one.
If you want to probably support Tony a little bit more,
you can also check that out on Amazon Prime Video as well.
It is not on YouTube.
Had a great weekend, a beautiful weekend in Iowa,
getting a little cold, but, you know, here and there, one week, it was, well, one, one day, got down to the 30s, and the day after it got up to the 50s.
So, you know, I wear my winter coat and shorts and that was fine.
But hope we're, oh, all right, who we got here?
Hey, we got Squatch, Squatchwatch is here.
That's awesome.
Squatch watch.
Good to see you.
Thanks for hanging out.
We are waiting for our first caller.
tonight. So we're just kind of shooting the breeze about some stuff. If you've got a Bigfoot
story or a cryptid story or UFO alien, anything weird, you can call on into 515-809-0165.
This is live on YouTube, of course, and recorded for the podcast. If you have a friend that
had a Bigfoot encounter or a Cryptic counter, dog man, anything weird like that,
maybe even a story that they haven't shared yet.
Go message them the phone number, 515, 809, 0165, say, hey, this guy is waiting to hear your story.
It's a non-threatening environment, no judgment.
And, man, we've had, I would wager to say we're up to six to eight stories so far,
where the person said, this is the first time I've ever felt comfortable enough to share,
which is very cool.
So go ahead, share the link for this in all your social media groups, maybe your
discords, all that good stuff, and let people know that, hey, the week's coming tomorrow,
but you can still hang out, get one last thing in tonight.
You can have fun, listen into some stories, call on in, share your story, and we'll see
who calls in tonight.
I feel the vibes.
Let me make sure that.
Okay.
That was close.
I thought I felt it.
We're up to five people here.
Patrick Vaughn says,
new to the subject,
what are we talking about?
Well,
so here's the thing.
This is a live call-in show.
I do every Tuesday,
Thursday,
and Sunday night.
And thanks for being here, Patrick.
And if you have a story to share anything weird,
paranormal,
UFO,
Alien, Bigfoot, cryptid stuff.
People will call in.
I have a phone number, 515, 809, 0165.
It'll be live on the air, of course.
And it is recorded for the podcast.
But, yeah, we just, we hang out together for an hour.
We just put the fishing line out there.
And we say, hey, this is the time for someone to call in.
Spread the news, people.
and let's hear some stories.
Let's see.
I would like to tell my story sometime.
It happened in 2004.
I had one staring up at me from the bottom of my tree stand for about five minutes.
So it seemed I would love to hear that story, Squatchwatch.
You are welcome to call in Tuesday, Thursday, or Sunday night right now from 9 to 10 p.m. Central Standard Time.
Whenever that works for you, I'll be here live.
You can call 515-809-016.
five.
We're almost 10 minutes into our hour.
9 to 10 p.m. Central Standard Time.
We got six people hanging out with us.
Guys, if you've got a story to share,
I just had a notification.
I thought that was it.
It wasn't, though.
I got a little freaked out.
Patrick's like,
Patrick's like, cool, someone jump on.
Well, that's the thing.
You got to wait it out.
Sometimes the calls coming in fast and furious like Vin Diesel.
Patrick,
sometimes I got to wait until 950
and I start sweating it out.
And then Sharon from Vancouver Island calls
from Canada and tells me about
all these amazing Bigfoot stories.
So,
oh, cool.
So SquatchWite says it was definitely the reason why I started
the IG page, love your content.
That means a lot coming from you.
You put some cool stuff out there.
We got seven people hanging out right now.
Appreciate you.
all being here, hanging out with me on your Sunday night. This is Strange Stories with Jeremiah
Byron. If you've got a Bigfoot story, cryptid story, weird, paranormal, unsolved, UFO, alien, all
that stuff. If you got any stories like that, now is the time to call in, share your story live.
We're up to episode number 12. Holy Macro, we got Hellbent Holler here. Dude, now the party has
begun. Actually made it onto a live stream. I appreciate you being here. I don't know if it's Joe
or Jesse, but either way, it's a party with Hell Bent Holler here.
We are just hanging out, waiting for that first caller to call on in on the strange line.
I'm going to call it to Strange Line from here and out.
That'll be cool.
515-809-0165.
Call on in, and you can share that number with any of your friends that have stories that they should be calling in.
Remember, this is a, oh, my goodness, we got...
Captain cool and awesome here.
We got Greg Morrow from all dot the dot weird due.
I heard this is the place to be.
It is the place to be and you are awesome for being here.
I appreciate you, Greg.
Guys, we are just literally just having a big hangout time right now.
So we're kind of chatting.
People are putting stuff in the chat.
We're sharing stuff.
We're waiting for that first caller.
We got eight people hanging out.
We're 10 minutes into the hour.
We got 50 minutes left.
Sometimes you got to wait until the very end.
You got sweated out.
but that first caller is coming and it's going to be good.
So we'll just, we'll wait it out.
Mike Casey says, Greg, you heard correct.
That's right.
Guys, I don't know about you, but I'm excited to be going to Crypticon.
It is about 13 days away.
We got November 6th today.
November 19th through the 20th is when CryptoCon is happening in Lexington, Kentucky.
Can't wait to get down there.
We've got 10 people online.
Thank you for being here, everyone.
Also, this guy's birthday is coming up on the 15th.
Oh, wink.
I don't even know how old I am.
It's not the big 4-0 yet, but it's getting pretty close, guys.
So hold on to your hats for that one.
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Patrick says, I've been on too many channels.
I love to hear other encounters too.
So do I.
and that's why I'm just waiting for that first person to call in.
We got 11 people hanging out waiting for our waiting for that first call.
We're going to 515-809-0165.
See, the more I do this, the easier it is to drag it out.
We're just going to drag it out, guys.
If you could do me a favor, though, one, subscribe to this channel, hit the bell icon so you don't miss out on the next one.
Also, take this link, share in some groups right now.
Share in your groups, your discords, your social medias, whatever.
Lord of the, Craig says Lord of the Ridge.
Oh, that is so funny.
That is so funny.
Mike Casey, dude, you already, Mike, have the medal for getting a ton of people on this show at the beginning, which I really appreciate.
I always appreciate you.
Are you kidding me?
Tom Cantrell will call in sometime.
Oh my goodness, that would be wild.
Guys, also, if you have Bob Gimlin's number,
just throw it out, say, hey, Bob.
You should call into this cool dude
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Question.
Did you hear Michael Freeman on Night Call?
Greg, honestly, I didn't listen to the whole thing.
I need to go back and listen to the whole thing.
I was multitasking at the same time.
But I did catch some of it.
It was interesting.
He was like in Hawaii or something, right?
But that was the first episode of this.
I had Mike Michael call in and I got to talk to him thanks to Mike Casey.
That was pretty rocking.
Mike Casey says, dude, no joke.
I'm working on that for you.
Dude, if you get the Bob Gimlin connection, hats off to you, my friend.
Hats off to you.
We got 12 people hanging out here.
This is kind of a fun chat episode.
Of course, you know, the real good time.
would be, you know, someone call in 515809-0165.
This is Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron.
You can call in.
We do Tuesday, Thursdays, and Sunday nights.
And you just call on in, share your story.
It can be Bigfoot-related, cryptid stuff.
We get UFOs, aliens, strange stuff.
Oh, my goodness, Greg.
That is a question.
I don't know if Bob Pironomus is still living,
but that would be an interesting chat, wouldn't it?
I don't know.
I bet Tate would know.
Not that I'm saying the joke that they're related,
but Tate has a good handle on stuff like that.
So I'm going to have to ask Tate.
Their last names are not the same spelling for anyone curious.
Guys, if you know anyone that should be calling in, sharing their story,
go ahead.
And you can send the phone number over to 1515-809-0165.
We got 11 people hanging out.
I got a feeling this is going to be this is going to be sweated out night but we'll see
fingers crossed let me check to see if my do not disturb is on it's this thing on yeah it's on
oh all right here we go this interesting is interesting Patrick says with bigfoot cave paintings
going back 1700 years on his continent accepted by the indigenous people that live here expand
your thoughts on why modern civil
has such an adverse view.
Interesting thought.
I'm not really,
I'm not really sure if that's a question or not,
but it is,
you know,
it's always an interesting thought,
Patrick,
where you find those,
those,
you know,
indigenous drawings of Bigfoot.
I think that's what you're referring to,
like the one that Kathy Strain was involved with.
It's cool stuff,
you know,
really cool stuff.
And the stories that you hear,
one,
one person that I want to talk to.
Flash of Beauty documentary had a lot of really cool interviews in it.
And I definitely want to talk to, I think he's Henry Franzoni, up there in the Pacific Northwest.
That guy is cool, big time 1990s Bigfoot researcher, but still, dude, now it's a party.
We got Alan Lasseter.
What's up, dude?
Good to see you.
I've got Squatch watch throwing up the signs, throwing up to squash signs.
Guys, if you've got a story to share, oh my goodness, Bigfoot and not now, it's also,
if you got any stories to share about weird stuff, this is an open, an open phone lines,
this is strange stories of Jeremiah Byron.
Everyone has the ability to call in right now, 515, 809, 0165.
We're about 20 minutes into this.
or just kind of chat and chat about stuff,
seeing who stops by.
This live program I do every Tuesday, Thursday,
and, dude, everyone's hanging out tonight.
We got Keith Rollins.
What's up, dude?
Good to see you, Keith.
Yeah, if anyone wants to call in,
talk about Bigfoot stuff,
stuff that they've encountered recently.
Call 515-809-0165.
Ween party.
It's live on YouTube, recorded for the podcast as well.
If you have any groups you're in, any, you know, places like that on the internet that are in Bigfoot, weird stuff, go ahead, take this link, throw it in there, or send it to your friends who have a story to share.
Send it on the phone number 515, 809, 0165.
Let's see, do I have, oh, here's a story that's a few days old, or is it a week old, I don't know.
In fact, did you know the International Cryptozoology Museum will be moving soon enough from Portland, Maine, up to Bangor, Maine?
What is that going to mean?
It means if you're planning on visiting the International Cryptozoology Museum, you're going to have to be traveling of like two more hours to get there.
So maybe if you live in New England and you've never been there, make the trip soon.
So you have to drive an extra two hours.
even if you don't, you know, get there before it moves to the bank or it's still, of course, worth going up there because it's going to be in a really cool old building.
And also, it's going to be in the same town as all the Stephen King stuff too.
So hit the Stephen King stuff.
Let's see.
Oh, man, we got a few people hanging out right here.
Let's see.
We got Bigfoot and I and Connor hanging out.
We got, Greg, I don't know if.
that's Stephen King's hometown.
I just know that like all his, it's where his archives are at.
And like you can, I think his house is there too.
Don't quote me on it.
Squatch Watch is talking.
Let's see,
2004 I had my encounter with one staring up at me from the bottom of the tree stand
in South Carolina.
Wild stuff.
Wild stuff, dude.
Yeah, Squatch watch.
One of these times you got to call in and share that story.
Let's make sure my phone is, a strange line is ready to go.
Got rev it up.
Rev it up.
Come on, phone.
You can do it.
We're 20 minutes in, guys.
Actually, yeah, we're 21 minutes in.
If you've got a story to share, it can be Bigfoot-related, cryptic-related, UFOs, aliens, anything weird, unknown, paranormal.
Go ahead, calling in 515-809-0165.
We got tons of dudes and cool, cool guys hanging out.
and I appreciate you all being here
Asher's what's up oh my goodness
now it's an extra party
I'm going to say that when anyone shows up that
it's now it's a party
good to see ya pal
looking forward to Crypticcon
13 days
what's up I'm going to take a drink
guys do me a favor
and
share the link for this
YouTube channel
or this YouTube video
this live
share it in any of the Facebook groups you're in,
share it on your Twitter, share it everywhere.
My goodness, anywhere there's someone that could call in
and share their story, their Bigfoot story.
Now you need to share it because we got to get someone to call in.
We got to do it, you know.
This is fun just hanging out, chatting with people in the chat,
giving people a way to hang out together before the work week starts out again.
I love providing that.
Squatch watch, let's see.
Long story short, after five minutes of me panicking, it just turned around and walked away.
What do you think about that behavior of the about face they do?
You know, I've never actually heard of that behavior.
That's why I want to talk to you about your story.
It sounds very interesting, my friend.
I'll never understand that it only started moving once I acknowledged it.
Hmm.
That's really weird.
That is a really weird thing that you experienced it.
But it's cool that it puts you on the track to creating something as big as Squatch Watch networks.
You know what I mean?
Guys, this is Strange Stories with Jeremiah Byron.
This is a open call-in show.
I do every week, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays.
You honestly never know what you're going to get with this.
Some nights I have my last one, I have four callers right off the bat.
Bam, bam, bam. Four callers. We're talking about dog man, big foot. Crazy stuff. Some nights, you got to drag it out. You just got to drag it out right into the end, 950, and then you get someone calling at the end. You got Sharon from Vancouver Island and Canada talking about a big foot that she had crossed the road in front of her car at midnight. And the crazy vocalizations she's been having at the
in the backyard of her house.
Crazy stuff, man.
But I appreciate you all being here.
I'm just going to do a little check here.
Let me know in the chat if you're going to CryptidCon.
I know Asher's is.
Hold on.
I had a buddy just message me.
I got a...
Wait, where is this?
Oh, it's on Met.
Okay.
Sorry.
And we got 12 people hanging out.
If you've got a story to share anything weird, go ahead, call that number 515-809-0165.
You can share anything weird.
Now is the time to call in.
We're about 20.
We're about the halfway mark.
This is going to be an episode where we just kind of, we drag it out.
That's all right.
We're having a good chat.
We got all sorts of people in the chat here.
We got, hmm, Patrick says, I've tracked them in five states.
elusive. What states have you tracked them in, Patrick? I'm curious to know. Maybe is Iowa one of the
states? Maybe we could get some info. Thank you, Mike Casey. Press that thumbs up button and subscribe
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This is kind of a hangout time we're having.
But the main point of the show is if you've got a story to share, go ahead and call in 515-809-0165.
I can call in with any Bigfoot stuff, cryptid stuff, UFOs, aliens, weird stuff, paranormal, stuff you just couldn't explain.
Now is the time.
Now is the time to call on.
And we do this three times a week, Tuesday, Thursday, and Sundays.
Some nights were just hanging out chatting in the chat, which is awesome.
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If you have a story, now is a time to call in.
515809-0165.
I'm not going to beg.
This is live on YouTube and recorded for the podcast also.
So it's recorded for the Bigfoot Society podcast.
I also did set up the strange stories with Jeremiah Byron podcast as well.
You can find that on iTunes right now.
So if you like just listening to this stuff and not having to listen to the interviews,
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It would be fantastic.
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and share that story that you've been holding on to,
you know, the Bigfoot 1 or Crypto 1 or UFOs or aliens.
Man, it's this thing on.
I think it's on.
I'm just going to, oh, let me check this.
All right.
Let's see, Matt's Tube has an interesting question for people in here.
Anyone heard of any notable sightings in the San Bernardino, Riverside, California, Mountain area?
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Hello, Patrick.
This is live on YouTube and recorded for the podcast.
Thanks for calling N, man.
It looks like you were struggling a little bit.
I didn't want to share much behind.
I appreciate it.
Not struggling.
just getting the clock to get a little closer to 10.
Sometimes you got to wait a little bit longer,
but I appreciate you calling in.
So what do we got going on, man?
There's so much to tell.
I'm not sure where to start at.
All right.
I had two unsolicited and encounters in which I never thought.
Bigfoot was real.
Really?
And after my second encounter, I grew up, I'm a third generation track.
I grew up kind of living off the land.
When I got out of school, I got into permanent survival and started studying criminal survival.
And in doing that, that caused me to get into the far out of waiting places.
And then I had an encounter where I was chased for a mile out to my truck by a fast car.
Really?
I didn't believe it real.
Whoa.
And then I had a second encounter six years later when I was trying to put it all away
and put it all back in this nice little package so I could ignore it.
Sure.
And that second encounter, you know, I had to start studying.
And so I've been studying since 2003, so 19 years.
I spent 16 years of one group, studying one group, and I spent a year tracking for a YouTube channel called Blue Put Explorer.
Okay.
And so I did a season with them, tracking with them, track it for them because they wanted to see what I was seeing in the woods.
Sure.
And so I took them out, got them experienced in it, and then, and I've been on a few channels.
and I lean towards the practical application of, you know, of critical discernment for the subject to gain, to gain evidence.
So that's me in a nutshell.
Your name sounds so familiar to Patrick.
It's what is from a while back, but I can't remember.
I know I've seen your name around a few places to do with, to do with.
the Bigfoot.
So you said you were studying a certain Bigfoot group for 16 years?
Yes.
That's incredible.
What part of the country was that in?
North Louisiana.
North Louisiana?
Yeah.
Okay.
That was my first contact with ever knowing these things were in existence.
And then I started tracking.
I had to, I was already a tracker, but I had to, I had to, I had to, I had.
to expand myself many more times to be able to build the tract them and understand how they
use the land, you know, how they move the difference between how the males move and what the
females are doing because they're going to different patterns.
Sure.
Because, you know, a female are stuck with young and they need a more consistent nutritional
nutritional nutritional value because they're nursing.
and so I found that the young and the bombs,
when you find a trail,
that's what the, in my area,
what I found in my experience was
that it was the young and the females
that were running the very known corridors
that you find, the big males,
I just walked through the thick of stuff
and just, you know, they stay out of sight
that was really hard to track.
Sure.
But I learned that with that core group.
How big would you say that core group was?
Right now there's four.
Okay.
There was a female, and then before I know it, I'm tracking a little seven-inch track.
Okay.
So that means that there's not just a female, but there's also male, and now there's a little one.
I tracked him as he grew.
Okay.
he and I actually kind of
he never trusted me
but I tracked him a lot
it's not like we were friends
but then
he got bigger
and then I started finding these little
seven tracks again
and so I realized
wow
there's there's
you know there's a teenager here
there's a you know
what I found out is that
you know on a five size five track
is they're toddling
mom is picking up and putting them down.
Okay.
So if you're tracking mom, if you're tracking mom,
you'll find a little size five track picked up, put down, picked up, put down.
They can't quite walk them up.
Gotcha.
But at a size six, it's moving around pretty good by itself.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah, I got a, I had a lot of insight tracking that one group,
and then I took what I learned from there, and I took a YouTube platform.
out because this guy told me, well, we don't believe you can do what you do.
You have your skill set.
And I submitted, I told him what groups I belong to, what, tracking and the survival of the
skill instructor.
And I gave him all information that he vetted these through all these groups before he
would even listen to me.
Wow.
He goes, okay, I'm going out with you.
Yeah, he goes, okay, I'm going out with you.
That's incredible.
I took you up.
Yeah, we did several, several, you know,
field investigations
three, four days apiece
and expeditions.
And we had success,
but then it was always inconclusive.
Okay.
But it was a lot of fun.
It was a lot of fun, you know.
But these things are real.
They're absolutely real.
What would you say,
you know, we'll jump right to it.
What would you say over the years
with that one group,
16 years is such a long time?
Do you have any, like, you know, class A encounters that stick out in your mind,
or what was the craziest encounter with that group that you would have had?
The craziest one was the first one.
Okay.
Okay.
I was hunting.
I had no idea of any of this existed.
And this young female comes up and falls in trail behind me.
and comes up, and she's so elusive and so behind the brush.
I didn't know what it was at first,
but it was playing a cat and mouse game,
and I was the mouse.
I didn't think I was in the house because I was armed,
but I wound up being in the mouth.
Oh, man.
And we're, you know, I'm trying to get out of this bottom
when I was hunting, and she's entailed behind me,
and I couldn't catch her, so I fooled her.
I kind of took a step and paused and looked,
and I looked, I saw it right there,
but I did it.
And she jumped from, you know,
behind, from one behind one tree
and glided between
two other trees and
landed and bounced behind it. And that's when
I got the first glimpse of
something real disturbing.
And then I jogged
all the way to this dim road. And when I
got there, you know,
I dodged her and took off.
And then she was 12 foot from me
in the Bush room for a mile.
I would look at her and she's running and she doesn't move like I move.
They move completely different than they do.
Okay, their hips don't work like I lose.
Can you elaborate that?
Sorry, go ahead.
A human can run and twist their hips as they run launching themselves smoothly.
Her hips don't move maybe two degrees and her feet are moving or hitting it down twice as fast as far as right.
and it's almost like her feet
or grabbing it down and pulling it to her.
She's not actually extending her leg backwards,
kicking off like I am.
Her feet are just like,
it's like he's grabbing the ground
and just pulling it to her,
and she's so fast.
But they don't work,
her hips don't work like ours,
their legs don't look like ours.
That's why I had to go back
and watch the Patty film
and watch Patty how she moves.
That's not a hoax.
People are,
your move.
She doesn't twist her hips.
She doesn't move like a human does.
Wow.
That's...
When a human's moving,
you can see the hip's rocket back and forth.
You know?
Yeah.
They don't do that.
Their body doesn't allow them to do that,
but there's so much pressure with me.
That's incredible.
So you got a really good luck at this figure,
is what it sounds like.
Yes.
Were you able to see, did you, were able to look at like the head of the figure?
Were you able to look into its face at all?
Anything like that that you remember?
Yeah.
The face, she had my nose.
That's what creeped me out the most.
All right.
I was armed.
I was armed.
I was armed.
I'm a family of living skills instructor.
I know my animals.
Sure.
Okay.
I've killed most about it.
everything I walked across on this front.
You know, buffalo,
elk,
deer,
you know,
alligator,
but I know my animals
and when I looked at
this one's face,
she had my nose
and that's what
that spooked to me.
I had two years of nightmares.
Okay.
It spooked to me so bad.
Yeah,
I had two years of nightmares
from the encounter time.
I actually thought it was hallucination.
I thought I loosened it first.
Really?
But then I went back from,
yeah.
And I ripped back.
back and replayed it.
And I'm like, you know, I'll research
him then on, and I finally
was able to put it to bed, and then I had
a second encounter. But her face
had my nose, a wider
jaw.
She had
a reddish one color
hair. And it covered
just in her eyes
got whiskey our teeth.
And it's just
full beard of the nose
just hair and there's
wispy hair.
in her nose and the jaw was wider,
a jaw was heavier.
She has extremely,
the most terrifying,
the most terrifying course of an account
is when you look at its eyes
and you don't know what
the rules are
when you're looking at the one's eyes.
Because you know how
you were raised with a certain amount of humanity.
You don't know what it's within them.
Okay, when you're standing there
and you're a mile in
and you're by yourself.
And this thing is your size or bigger.
She wasn't a big thing.
She was my size.
And I'm 62250.
She is my size.
And she's looking at you in your eyes.
What are the rules of engagement?
Is she hungry?
Is she accountable?
Am I on the menu?
Because I didn't know anything about these things.
You know, everything is up for question at this point.
You know, is she violent?
Is she going to attack?
All these questions come up.
And when you're looking at one, and I don't care if it's later on,
if it's your fifth or eighth encounter,
when you look at one in the eyes,
you don't know what rules are applied to you.
That's wild.
That is absolutely, that's wild.
I'd be thinking if she's here,
where's the, there's got to be bigger ones around here too, you know?
Oh, yeah.
that was in my second account
and it was a big male
and that was what went through my
I actually tried to deny it was there
I was I tried to deny it was there
I kept just walking down
through this right away
to get to my dear stand
it's pre in the dark
and I just got my light and I'm trying to want me
and it's right there and I'm trying to deny it's there
and finally I'd turn around and I addressed it
and I'm like yeah it's there okay
it's right there
because I tried to put it away as I would never have another encounter.
There's no way a person could have two encounters.
But here is.
And when you look in its eyes, when you look at its eyes,
you feel very long and very vulnerable, very small.
It's almost equivalent to waking up on a very small raft in the middle of the ocean
when you feel insignificant, very threatened, very insecure,
You don't know what the rules are anymore.
No rules around you apply it anymore.
When you're looking at its eyes, what's it going to do?
It sounds like, you know, and, you know, looking into its eyes like that, you know,
you'd have so many conflicting emotions.
I don't know if I could even take the shot.
Like, you know, like it just feels like there's some conflicting humanity there.
I don't know. That would have been very, very hard in your situation.
Well, I've never been compelled to want to shoot one.
Sure.
I'm a no-kill actor.
Okay.
Because they are not, they're not an animal.
They're not an ape.
They are a primitive being.
Wow.
They're just different.
They are extremely intelligent, extremely talented.
very fast, great eyesight.
Sure.
But they have, I can't, I, I would have a very difficult time shooting something that has my nose.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I've never wanted to harm anybody unless I absolutely had to defend myself.
Sure.
But, you know, you look at this thing, it has your nose, but it's eight feet, it's eight feet tall.
Yeah.
It's two feet taller than me and got 400 pounds on me and it's fast.
And you're sitting there looking at my eyes.
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This thing could have walked off when you'd have never known it was there.
so why is it standing here?
What is it, what is it, you know,
because I'm very, very skilled and understand
affecting my survival towards other beings,
other creatures, you know, I learned,
I grew up learning how to discern behavior of game
and understand and track them and find out when they're going to be there
and then meet them there and affect my survival on them.
You know, I've taken game.
and I understand about engaging and affecting your survival.
So what is this thing doing standing here?
Patrick, a really weird question.
Were you involved with the Tom Brown School at all?
No.
Okay.
Have you ever?
I kept thinking of that, you know,
you kept thinking of like talking about tracking and survival.
And he's a famous tracker I had heard about back in the 80s and 90s.
He was pretty popular.
but um my grandfather was a tracker for sure oh okay cool in southeast Oklahoma okay and and then I just
it kind of came down the family line and I was I started tracking the line and you know
trains uh you know my family is also reservation up in the Indian nations in Oklahoma
okay and uh I've had I've had a lot of teachers
One of my teachers, he was, you know, Cherokee off in the nations.
Oh, wow.
That taught me, he taught me, he made me, you know, I learned a lot of the mechanical tracking.
Mm-hmm.
But then, but then this man taught me more of the spiritual side of tracking.
Sure.
Of getting to feel the woods.
Okay, mechanical tracking is only half of it.
you know, you can mechanically track someone and it's half of it.
The other half is feeling your environment.
And to be able to connect with your environment,
you can feel everything out to, it's hard to describe, you know.
I have to do an exercise where I went out in the woods and I just closed my eyes.
Yeah.
and I just and I audibly discerned all noises out until you couldn't hear anything else except for white noise okay and then you with your eyes closed your picture and everything perfect in its place
the leaves the grass everything perfect in its place and before then when you opened your eyes you saw all the disturbances a lot you know water runoff animal tracks human
disturbances
and so that really gets you in tune
and feel your environment
and not just mechanically tracked
but it's kind of a special thing
as well as you're walking through
feeling and tracking
and it makes you a better
tracker
is there anything you would notice
you know tracking that way
when there would be a Sasquatch in the area
would that affect you in any way
yeah
if you practice,
it's been so many years now for me,
so many decades now for me,
that I can just put a switch.
And I can hear,
you know,
there's a hum,
even in your studio.
If you close your eyes,
you've got a little quiet
you can go home.
Okay.
Anything,
anything that chooses that home,
you can tell the direction
and distance of it.
Okay, I don't care if it's someone,
you know,
touches a wall lightly,
you'll hear it.
And, you know,
it just changes that home.
It's such a light sound.
You may not connect it to a sound,
but it'll change the hum of that
of what's out there.
And you'll notice it.
And so I will hear that
when I'm out there.
And I've told people
it's coming in.
It's 300 yards out
at, you know,
7 o'clock position.
Wow.
And then,
and then I've had,
had them come in.
We had two come in on the fire
in an expedition with this group.
I had two come in to a fire.
They're just outside the fire.
And I'd tell him, I'm telling the cameraman,
they're right there at 2 o'clock position.
You know, they're there.
I hear them.
I hear them, the disturbing,
the hum of the vibration of the woods.
I feel them.
They're there.
And the cameraman didn't believe me.
And then something doored it out
and the right of way across the waterway
into the other set of woods
and he said,
hey,
there's something behind that tree.
Oh, my goodness.
And I said, yeah,
I told you,
it's here.
And then it went further out,
it went further out
and darted back across
and then I picked my flashlight
and I'm going to track them in the building.
And so this guy's video and me
tracking these two Sasquatch in the door.
I track up behind them.
He freaks out.
I told them they're right there.
He freaks out turns back and runs to
fire.
What?
Yeah.
So I go back, so I'm at this point and I go back to the fire, you know, at least two take
off and they come walking, they come walking.
Hello?
Hello?
Hi.
Yeah, sorry, we had a little bit of interference there.
Yeah, they come walking within about 50 yards of the fire and you can hear them
out their chattering.
That's Sam and my chair.
Remember?
Oh, really?
And we heard them five times.
They walked all.
way out of hearing.
And the guy
of the camera,
you know,
you got to understand,
and I understand
what he's at,
is that there's a difference
between believing,
knowing,
and accepting.
Because,
see,
I never believed.
I found out,
but I didn't accept it.
But then once I knew,
once I knew,
then I had to get
to another level of acceptance
for my mind wrapped around it.
So this guy,
I'm watching this guy,
I'm watching this guy scrub,
I was accepting what,
here.
Sure.
And he is,
he's doing this knock.
He'd do a knock and this thing with him,
he'd do a wolf at him.
Really?
There'd be one look and there'd be another,
another wolf.
And they come all the way back into hearing within about 60 yards of us doing
looks.
And he's like,
I hear that out there.
What is that?
I said,
we just tracked it.
I showed you the track.
It's like,
what are you here to see?
Yeah,
you know,
he could not wrap his head around.
Yeah.
We made those 14-inch tracks out there
because we had been there
and the flight track to the area.
I tracked over somewhere
around 8 or 9 individuals in that
one area in that in state of Mississippi
in the 20 miles that we would have the expedition going on.
But I told him,
what do you think made these 14-mitch tracks out there?
That's what's out there looking at you.
You know, what was doing the samurai chatter
So this guy, and I understand it, if he would have stepped in the spotlight and he could look at it, he would have been just like me.
Oh, man.
He would have had a meltdown for his life, you know?
Oh, yeah.
I can't imagine.
But by now, by now, I'm like 17 years into this.
I've been around a bunch of times, so I'm kind of statured to this, you know.
And he thought I'd lost my mind when I pulled out my flashlight with the track of him in the dark.
He's like, you've lost it.
your mind going on the darkness jumping you don't know.
Oh, that's funny, Patrick.
What do you think the best evidence that you've captured from, you know,
your almost 20 years with these groups?
What kind of have you captured any evidence from those groups?
Other than, I mean, I've photographed hand grabs and handprints.
Oh, okay.
And I've casted tracks.
And I guess the closest week I got with a camera behind me was in Arkansas.
We had casted the tracks, and I'd been tracking this thing.
I tracked the second or the third day.
I believe I was tracking this tick or one, and we catch up with it.
It's on a hill.
But it gets dark with the moon's up.
This thing isn't going to expose it.
when we're the moon up.
Sure.
As soon as the moon goes down, I said,
okay, let's go.
And we start doing knock.
We start doing knocks, start provoking it.
Well, you know, you see its eyes shine out there in dark,
and it turns it takes off towards this field.
So we double back.
We get on the corner of this field,
and six of us are out there.
There's two landowners and then Cammer Guy
and my track in Portland land.
I'm a team in this year.
We're watching this thing.
and walk in the field.
But the camera guy is so busy
catching what is going on in the group.
He's just filming past me
and all you get is the glint of the
eye shine out there walking out in the field.
Okay.
So we had one on camera in the dark,
but it's inconclusive.
It was conclusive.
It's conclusive for us
because we all saw it.
But like I said,
You know, it's just they control a quarter mile around them.
You know, they build a barrier up around them.
If I had a quarter of a mile from, they know I'm there.
So can you elaborate on that?
So they can, they build a barrier a quarter mile around them, what that means?
Their eyesight and their situational awareness.
Okay.
Okay.
They are hyper-digituals about their surroundings.
hyper-vigilance
about
knowing what is within a corner mile of it.
Okay?
Okay.
Of hiding and brush,
using topography,
knowing what's around them.
They don't guess at anything.
They know.
Wow.
Okay.
And so that makes them elusive
to, you know,
you can track up and find their tracks,
but then they're a good quarter mile away from you.
or still, and they're pushing away from you because they're watching you.
You know, and so there's a barrier there of a quarter mile.
You've got a breach through brush, through trees, through water barriers, grass, you know.
And what sucks about our technology is that the light, you know, we all work off light refraction.
Sure.
And especially at night, especially at night with the camera, the light will shine out there.
and it'll shine along with foliage,
but anything that, you know,
behind the foliage in the dark,
it doesn't light it up.
You know?
Yeah.
The foliage lights up and what's in the dark,
just 30 yards out,
it doesn't light up.
So if you've got one 50 yards out there,
you're not going to catch it.
And that's what I kept running to the Patech period.
Were you ever able to utilize,
like,
any thermal technology?
Yeah, female investigator had a thermal and got an image at 90 yards.
It's on her Facebook page.
That's a Christi Syphi, so it was.
Sorry, what's her name?
Christy Siphonite on Facebook.
But, yeah, she captured the thermal at 90 yards, which you can see the shape of the body.
but it's not real conclusive.
You know, a thermal image.
Okay, I'm a firm believer that no images are going to convict anybody
into believing it puts real unless it's a motion video of, you know, done 10 times.
You've got to have at least 60 seconds of video 10 times of 10 different Bigfoot, 10 different periods.
So you're talking like a modern equivalent of like a Patterson given on film pretty much?
I'm talking a modern equivalent of a Patterson-in-field 10 times.
Sure, yeah.
I got you.
Okay.
Okay.
Before you're going to raise an eyebrow.
Yeah, I know.
To anybody, you know, because of all the hoaxers.
Yeah, and it's getting harder and harder with technology improving
and people being able to make fake stuff look so real.
And it's just, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, which I have a real good theory on how to film.
I've been down for eight months from the shoulder injuries.
Oh, man.
You still plan it to go out, though, after recovery?
Oh, yeah, I plan on going out.
That's awesome.
I'm three weeks out of surgery right now for a bigger cut.
Okay.
Whoa, man.
Yeah, I've been down a while.
It's been a boring year, but I kind of got shy away from YouTube.
Because, I mean, I've told my story.
I don't know what else to say.
I got you.
No, this is a very interesting story, Patrick.
I'm so glad you called in, man.
This has been super cool.
So if people look for Patrick Fond,
they're going to find interviews from a while back on different places.
Like, you are out there, it sounds like.
Yeah, I'm on Bigfoot Explorer.
I'm on a young monster.
I'm on Mike College Bigfoot Radio.
Oh, yeah.
Love night callers.
Yeah.
I'm on Sasquatch Out of Shadows with Alex.
Oh, really?
Oh, that's probably where I've heard your name before is because I watched a lot of his stuff.
Yeah, I'm on Sasquatch Carnicles.
Oh, nice.
Two and Canada.
Episode seven.
782 I think
Dude I have to check that out
Yeah I'm all right
I'm out there
I don't want to inundate people
I got you
But
but my thing is awareness
I do what I do
For awareness because
I don't want people
Get blindsided
And have two years
In that nurse
Oh for sure
For sure yeah
Because
I actually stepped out
Into public
To discuss this
Because I was told not to
By the other groups
I belong to
but I started watching this
4-1-1 stuff going on.
And while I don't think all of it is fast-luck-related,
but I think there could be one or two.
And if there's just one person that it was missing
because of one of these things,
and I had a very good question on
did I almost go missing during my first and second encounter?
Really? You think it was a potential 4-1-1 that almost happened?
Yeah, I really had that fear.
Wow.
You know, I don't express that because I don't,
I try not to express that way because I don't want people to be violent
towards one if one comes out, although they should protect themselves.
But once I heard of the full one, there was one case that I heard that I said,
okay, that's, you know, that's why I come out and say, okay, be aware, you know,
don't think these things aren't real, okay, because I,
thought they weren't real.
I found out they are.
Some people are alleged
when listening.
So pay attention to your surroundings
and be aware,
you know,
and don't hurt yourself or anyone else
trying to get back out of that situation.
You know, that's my angle of awareness.
Wow.
Patrick,
this has been a
extremely enlightening interview.
Thank you so much
for calling in.
Hopefully, maybe sometime in the future, you know,
you get out there and you're able to have some,
you know, some more things come up.
I'd love to talk to you again in the future.
I feel like we could talk for hours,
but I definitely want to respect the time of the show.
But man, this has been so much fun.
Thank you, Patrick.
Oh, thank you.
And I hope I added some kind of value,
Oh, totally. Is there any way people can keep up to date with what you're doing or you're just kind of laying low and recuperating right now?
I'm recouping right now. I was on Facebook. You know how toxic stuff started and not get wild. Yeah. Yeah.
But I mean, I have plenty of platforms to choose from when I get back to researching put out and I may reach out to you.
Yeah, and you're open to definitely reach out to me.
Anything you want to send my way, you can email me,
Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.
Yeah, I would love to see anything that you can send over.
That would be amazing.
But thanks so much for calling in, Patrick,
and you have a great night, sir.
All right, thank you.
Bye-bye.
Wow.
That's going to take a while for me to process that.
Yeah, that's a way.
where I'm going to listen to that again.
That was good.
Wow.
Thanks all for hanging out.
That was an incredible interview with Patrick Fawn.
Patrick knows this stuff.
I love it.
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