Bigfoot Society - Terrifying Tales from the Catskills: My Bigfoot Encounters with the Squatch Father (Archives)

Episode Date: September 8, 2024

Originally released 9/29/23Join Jeremiah in this captivating episode of Bigfoot Society as he interviews Al Santariga, the 'Squatch Father.' Al shares his incredible journey into the world of Bigfoot and Dogmen, sparked by his first sighting at age 12 and paranormal influences in his family. Delve into hair-raising encounters with these cryptids, the chilling effects of infrasound, and the threats posed by government surveillance and unknown entities. Explore the investigative methods combining old-school and new-school techniques, insights from Native American tribes, and the interdimensional aspects of these elusive creatures. Tune in for an unforgettable dive into the supernatural realms and Al's ongoing mission to uncover the truth behind these mysterious beings.Resources: Facebook Bronxville Paranormal Society BPS - https://www.facebook.com/groups/355803847924300New York State Dogman Project - https://www.facebook.com/groups/nysdpShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, I got the privilege of talking to Al Santa Riga, today. Some people might know him. Well, actually, most people might know him as the Squatch father. How's it going today, Al? It's going. Good, Jeremiah. How you doing? I'm doing great, man.

I'm excited to talk to you. We've been trying to make this happen for a while. And we finally were able to get you on. You reached out and said, hey, I got some time. So let's make it happen. You are out from the great state of New York. And you've been involved with quite a few things out there. For example, you're the founder director of the New York State UFO Project,

the New York State Sasquatch Organization, the New York State Dogman Project, and also the director of the North American Dogman Project, New York State Chapter.

And also, a member of Mufon, many different things. Any other things that you'd want to make sure that you know? Absolutely. The Brocksville Paranormal Society

is the, is the mother the mothership of all of these things. But it all started from there and then branched off into different little genres. Absolutely. You know, I'd love to know right off the bat, what's the story of the name the Squatch father? That sounds like it could be pretty interesting. Oh, I was doing a show for Chris Reinhart from the Sun Discovered Sasquatch from Connecticut. and, you know, my heavy Bronx accent and being Italian, you know what I mean?

So he came up with the Squatch father and it kind of just stuck from there. That's awesome. Are you from a certain part in New York that you'd be okay, Sharon, for context? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I grew up in Yonkers, New York, and, you know, I spent a lot of time. Yonkers is like an extension of the project. Bronx since I spent a lot of time in the Bronx as well, you know, growing up. So, yeah, so I mean, like people, a lot of people can't understand me because of my New York accent.

You know what I mean? They have a lot of trouble understanding what I'm saying sometimes. So, or they'll get, they'll say, is that a Brooklyn accent? I'll say, no, that's a Bronx accident. Absolutely. I grew up in, in Western Massachusetts. it. So I've heard, I heard the New York accent a few times. So I get it. It's, it's a good sound. I like it. I am, I'm curious to know. I always like to, to hear, what was it that first

got you into, into Bigfoot in the beginning? Well, I mean, that's easy. My, my brother was, a, is a parapsychologist. And, um, he always had books in that. the house that on all kinds of things you know all aspects of the paranormal um he used to work with hon holzer's right-hand man and their um psychic i think her name was ethel and uh so you know my mother was a psychic my aunt was a white witch i had a cousin who was a black witch you know what i mean and uh so the paranormal in my family was just normal. And one thing led to another.

I remember, man, it must have been 10 years old with all of my cousins. We all lived on the same neighborhood. It was like a dozen of us. We went to the movies one Saturday at St. James Bond and something like that. And at the end of the movie, they had the Patty film, Patty Gibblein film. And I remember turning to my cousin Dino and saying, man, that thing, that's real. that's no hoax that's the real deal you know and you know of course all my cousins you know broke my chops over it and stuff you know but uh i just had a gut feeling from the moment i've seen

that video that that was the real deal and then you know every friday we used to have to take books out of the library to read over the weekend in school so i was always that kid with the the, you know, the nest, the locknest monster, the bonnable snowman, you know, I was that kid who picked up all those books, the UFO books, the ghost books, that was me, you know. So that's how it got started. I love that. That's so good. Just being able to see that footage in the theater, that must have been incredible.

What a privilege to be able to see that at that point in time when they were showing that in the theaters. Yeah, I mean, on that big screen, it was great. And then, you know, I was about 10 at that time. Two years later, I had my first Bigfoot experience down in South Florida. That was just insane. And, you know, after that, I wasn't a believer. I was a knower. And the rest is history, you know. Yeah. So that's interesting. So you had a, do you feel you had a skunk ape sighting down in South Florida? you said. Oh yeah, absolutely. I had a major siding down in South Florida. Absolutely. I mean, not only was the creature walked right by our house.

I mean, literally right along the side of our house, but it attacked a wild horse in our development. And it ripped the head off a Brahma bull, too. You know what I mean? It's a crazy story. And we the night it ripped the head off the Brahma Bull, my brother-in-law and sister would just get home from a night out in Miami and me and my cousin Anthony were babysitting the kids and we heard some horrific scream.

We didn't know what it was. Then we heard a shotgun go off and we jumped in my brother-in-law's car to go see what was going on. Long story short. We got caught behind a deputy sheriff doing a patrol and everybody was looking to the left because that's where he had a spotlight like that's where the swamp was. And the creature ran out from the right and he hit it with his car.

And when he hit it, I mean, my brother-in-law, when the creature got back up, it limped over to this police car. And it punched this police car with like a hammer punch with both hands. And the back of the car came off the ground. And my cousin Anthony was sitting in the front seat. And I was in the back, but I was hanging out of my brother-in-law sunroof. So it was like, it was right there. you know, a car length away from me, screaming and the scream just goes right through you.

I mean, every fiber in your body of vibrates. And it's just, it's just unreal. I mean, I tell people all the time, be careful what you wish for because the first time you see this creature up close and personal, your brain will not be able to comprehend what your eyes are saying. just like a little tidbit of the experience. There's so much more than it goes on with it, but you know, I don't know where you want to go tonight, so we'll just keep going. That's very interesting. So, man, it almost makes me wonder, did you ever see if you could get like a released report about that night? I wonder if they had to write anything about, you know,

a skunk ape punching out their car window or anything at that. Well, you know, it was crazy because that particular summer, 1974, down of South Florida, there was a drought. And there were fires in the Everglades. And my sister lived right on the edge of the Everglades and the development called Sunshine Acres. And all the creatures were coming inland. All the animals were coming inland. And there was a lot of Stunkeap reports in our area from local sheriffs and state police and stuff like that. and county police.

And then it started happening in our development. And when that particular incident happened, we thought for sure that the next day there would be all kinds of news reporters at our house because we were the only witnesses to it because the sheriff was actually coming around the far end of the development. It was like a big square, two miles square.

And when he came down and he seen the car totaled, he was like, you know, what happened? And he was taking our report. He took the deputy's report. He said, why don't you shoot it? back then they carried the shotgun in between the two seats up front and the deputy just said the shotgun wasn't big enough you know um I always say the creature was about nine feet tall maybe 900 pounds I'm probably being white on his weight um but he was he was a big boy he was definitely a big boy and uh and I always I you know when

when we found out that I had ripped the head off of the Brahma bowl I could believe it because I had seen that Brahma bull up close and personal on. That Brahma bowl was like the size of a minivan. If he was 2,500 pounds, he was an ounce, you know, and I couldn't just, I just couldn't believe the strength that this creature had. And so we thought we would get all these people come to our house because that night, the sheriff called in the state police the county police, they came in with helicopters, they came in with horses, they came in with dogs. 1974, South Florida town we were in, it's called Davy, was still a cowboy town. The biggest thing that happened in that town was the rodeo on the 4th of July.

Every pickup truck had three rifles in the window, you know what I mean? And they couldn't find anything. And we thought for sure we were going to be interviewed, you know, but no one ever showed up at our house. And I gave that report to the guy who ran the Skunkake Museum in Florida. And a woman from the BFRO, her name was ReMagolith or something like that. She was the director for Florida. She had read it. And she reached out to me.

And she put together this comprehensive sightings. You know, it's on the BFR site, us websites called the South Florida Skunkate something or another. But she actually got area shots of Sunshine Acres, the development. And she showed where, like, the course rancher lived, where the cattle rancher lived and all of this stuff. And then she, at the end of my, I think, a woman named Savilla Irwin, she's an artist. Yep. She did an artist's rendering of what I seen.

She put that in the report. And then she put, like, 30 other articles in the newspaper, all that happened around that time in there. And then she went on to tell me, she was like the same age I was, and her father, she lived in the next town over, and her father had a business in Davy.

And she went to tell me that her uncle was a police officer in the next town south of us, New City, I think it was called, something like that. And he had two books, the official report and the unofficial report. And that particular time, they were getting a lot of calls for peep and tombs.

And when they would get out there and, you know, try to sneak up on the peepa tom, it was a skunk gate. When they hit him with the fleshlight and the skunk ape would jump into the swamp and swim away, you know. And so they had an official report and an unofficial report. And she was going to get her uncle's unofficial book on all the sightings that happened. And she was going to put out a book at some point. I don't know if she ever did. but she did an amazing job on my experience, when she wrote it up on the BFR website.

And yeah, it's just crazy. I mean, she put so much work into what I was blown away by what she did. You know, it's just really above and beyond the call of duty. That sounds absolutely, excuse me, that sounds absolutely incredible. I'll definitely have that in the show notes because I'm seeing the link already. Oh, okay. Man, this is such a wild story. Going back to the Brahma Bull, so was that a thing where the act of, like someone saw the skunk ape actually ripped the head off?

Or it was a thing where the creature was found and there is enough evidence where it was like, okay, this is what must have happened? Well, no, what happened was it was two o'clock in the morning. It was pitch blackout, okay? And the farmer, the cattle rancher didn't have any lights in his pasture. And my brother-law and said, so we were getting out of the car. And we were, we were, we need, my brother-law had asked if there was any action. And we said no. And then we heard this blood-curdling scream or cry, and we didn't know what it was.

It was definitely not the skunk. We've heard the skunk-gave at this point go off, you know, in the swamp. This was not the skunk-cund-k-k-one. No one knew what it was. But then right after that, we seen the shotgun blast coming from the cattle ranchers farm. So we knew something had happened there, you know. And when we got there, when we actually, eventually we followed the sheriff to the cattle ranchers farm because he said to the sheriff, you got to come see what this damn creature did to my prize.

Bull, when we went back there and the sheriff was panning the pasture with his spotlight, the bull was like just bleeding out with no head. the head was 100 yards away on the side of the pasture, you know? I mean, I don't know if the paddle ranch has seen him do it or if he just heard the scream and he came out blasting, you know what I mean?

Because on our little development, we had a lot of action. Like, in the beginning of the story, experience, a friend of ours who, his father owned a horse ranch down the street and would take tours out in the Everglades, you know.

He had this wild Mustang or whatever it was from Wyoming or Montana. He had a Native American Seminole trying to break this horse so he could put it in the corral. He couldn't put it in the stalls because if he did it would kick it and made all the other horses

nuts. So he left it in the corral one night. And one night we were sitting again, it was late, 12, 30, 1 o'clock because when Brothermore had just come home from his restaurant, he had an Italian restaurant and he used to bring us like burnt pizzas at the end of the night. We would set up and eat burp

and we heard a blasting coming from the horse rancher farm and when we ran to the front of the house, we could see like a muzzle flash of a 30-30 going off. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. So we jumped on our dirt bikes and rode over to the house to see where it was because, you know, it was still, you know, maybe eight blocks away from us, even though it was, everything is flat, so everything was close. So we rode over there and we went over there and they told us what happened, that the skunk ape had snuck up on the wild Mustang in the corral.

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everybody was there, and the whole neighborhood basically was there. And the Native American, in Seminole Indian, and rode out to the pasture to get the horse. And when he brought it back, the horse had handprints in its hinds quarters, not claw marks,

handprints. Like if I was to grab you by your wrist and squeeze as hard as I could, leave that indentation, that's what this horse had on its hindquarters. And that's why, you know,

the Seminole Indian thought that the horse may have kicked out when he got grabbed, and that's what he jumped to corral and ran into the pasture. And like I said, my friend's father.

that he heard all the commotion. He came out blasted. So there was a lot of action going on in our little development. We were surrounded by swamps. There was a one lane bridge in and out of the development. It was, you know, pretty rural at the time. That's incredible. And, man, when you were 12 years old, so wild to have experienced that at such a young age. From, you know, you were able to see the creature a bit, it sounds like, but something I ask people is when you, when you see the creature in some way, did you feel like you were looking more at something that was more human or maybe something that's more ape or something completely in the middle? Well, the very, very first time that I laid eyes on the creature, my cousin and I would just

going to bed and my sister had a big picture window in her sunroom it was like eight by four and we had the pull-out couch we were going to bed again it was the wee hours the house was surrounded in three sides by a six-foot fence but the front was open with a circular driveway with a fountain in the middle and there were sensor lights on all the corners and we were laying in bed and the very first time we went by we smelled the horrible smell and my sister had two large german shepherds K-9 Shepherds, and they went crazy, and we had to put them in the garage. And then they told us it was the skunk ape. And we didn't believe her.

We thought they would, you know, bust in our chops until we talked to our friends in the neighborhood who told us, yeah, you know, when it's hot like this, it comes around. And then a couple of days later, a couple weeks later, it came with walking through our front yard. And the sensor lights went on. And as it was walking, we've seen this huge shadow go across the wall in front of us, you know? and so I got out of the bed

and I did like a belly crawl to the window and I pulled open the shade to see what was out there and I seen what looked like King Kong to me standing in the driveway. It had red eyes. I don't know if it was from the sensor lights you know, eye shine from the sensor lights

but it had red eyes. It had canines. And I guess it had seen its reflection in the big picture window and it did this incredible Hulk kind of flexing scream, almost like he was challenging another skunk ape. And when it was screaming, I thought it had seen me peeking out of the corner of the window

and it was screaming at me, you know, but hindsight being 2020 was probably the reflection on the window it's seen. And when it walked along the side of the house, we had an empty lot by our side of our house that had wild watermelons in it. As it was walking past the side of the house, my cousin and I ran into one of the bandrooms in between the kids' rooms. We left the lights off and we were watching it because as it walked past that corner, the sense of lights went on. And we were watching it and it was looking at us like it could see us in the dark. The windows were tinted.

The screens were black. We left the light off in the bathroom and it never took its eyes off. It was like it was watching us. And at one point it stopped, reached down, grabbed the wild wall. Watermelon, took a giant bite. There was left nothing but two nubs, dropped the nubs, walked to the back of the house. We ran to the back at house because my sister had a screened in patio. We went into the screened and patio again. We left the lights off. As it walked past the back of the house, the sets lights went on again. Again, the whole time, it's half, that's top of its body

tilted back looking at us. Behind our house, there was a man who had a man-made lake. At that man-made lake, it squatted down and it cupped his hand and it drank the water out of the lake. And then it got up and it walked into the swamp where we used to go horseback ride and ride our dirt bikes and have bonfires and stuff like that. And then it just started screaming once they got into the swamp, you know? And like I said, that first time I seen it, I was behind that plate of glass that was like an eighth of an inch thick or whatever how thick it was. And it was a baby, God, I would say no more than 25, 30 feet away from me.

And it looked like, to me, it looked like King Kong. It was huge. And the way I got its height was because it was head and shoulders above that fence. And I know that fence was six feet tall to keep the dogs in. So it had to be between, you know, nine and eight, nine feet tall. I would say closer to nine feet tall. and I use a rough estimate 100 pounds per foot. So at nine feet tall it had to be a minimum of 900 pounds,

maybe probably closer to 15. I don't know. But it left 18-inch tracks along the side of the house in the sand. And we were, my brother-in-law said he was going to come home from work and at lunchtime, and he was going to cast him. And he was going to put one on the bar in the house and one at the bar at the restaurant, you know. But the restaurant got busy. He never came home.

The horse tours went by, and they always rode right by our house along that empty lot, and they destroyed the track, so we never did get a chance to cast them. But I seen them up close and personal. And like I said, when you see these creatures up close and personal, your brain cannot comprehend what your eyes are saying, and they just can't. That's absolutely incredible. Well, after that point, was it, you know, all bets are off? Or was there a time in your life where you're like, you know, this Bigfoot thing is cool?

I'm going to get away from it for a little bit. Or were you like, I got to figure out what's going on from here on out and you're a game on? No, after we got back from Florida that summer, because that was our like, my cousin Anthony, my cousin Anthony was closer to me like my brother. He was 15. I was 12. and that was our summer vacation. That was our summer camp.

It would send us down there. My brother-in-law being an ex-marine guy, he always had chores for us to do in the morning because in the afternoon it would get too hot and then we'd just go swimming in the pool or the man-made lake or ride our dirt bikes or whatever. But, you know, when I came back from Florida that year, I had, like, PTSD for, like, three years, you know?

I couldn't sleep in my room at night. I would sleep as far. My father was a carpenter, and what he did was he turned a front porch into a bedroom. So the bedroom was maybe 10 feet long and six feet wide. And the only window he had at his carpenter shop was like a front window for like a house. He had a big picture window in the front with two little windows on the side. So I always used to think that that thing was going to reach in because his arms were so long. you know, and I used to think it was going to come to New York,

reaching that glass window and pull me out and take me away. And for three years, it was a rough three years at night, you know. Then, you know, that passed, and then, you know, I got into girls and cars and stuff like that, motorcycles. And I kind of forgot about it for a long time. And then I started hanging out with a bunch of guys at work when I started working at the post office, and we started going out doing paranormal investigations, you know?

And one thing led to another, and, you know, we always believed the guys I put together, after my brother said to me at one point, you know, it's great that you go out with your friends in the post office, but you should put a real team together. And I was a member of a group called the New York's The Roundtable, the UFO roundtable in Yonkers. And so I got all the guys from the roundtable

that were interested in it. I put a team together and called it the Bronxville Paranormal Society because originally everybody that was on the team either worked with me at the post office in Bronxville or lived in Bronxville. So that was our name. But then we all believed that everything was connected.

You know, we believed that it was all connected. Ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot's, all of that stuff. We all had the same mindset. And that's how that led us out going out and finding, you know, these locations here in New York that are squatchy and then researching those locations and having activity. And, you know, I got five different locations. I work in three different counties. And I got one site called the sacred site that's never failed to me. Whenever I've gone there, I've always had experiences. And stuff is really, really getting crazy now

because I started getting telepathic communications with them now. I had an ascension two years ago, and I guess it raised my vibration and frequency. And so I'm having these telepathic, but it's not just me having the telepathic communication. It's Chris Reinhart in Connecticut, it from Discover Sasquatch. And it's my psychic down in Arkansas.

We're all seeing the same Sasquatch. We're all interacting with the same Sasquatch in three different states, you know, hundreds of miles apart. And it's just getting crazy now. Can you describe the Sasquatch that you're all seeing in your, when you, when you see that? Yeah, he actually came to me. When he came to me in a dream state, he told me his name was Alarek, capital A-L-I-Dash-R-E-K.

And he was a shaman. He was a king shaman. That's what he told me. And he was a healer. And he was the eldest statesman of my clan that I'm dealing with at the sacred site. And he showed himself to me two or three years earlier. I had seen a white Sasquatch on a parkway, but I was told I wasn't ready at that time when we locked eyes, you know.

And he's massive, just absolutely 10, 12 feet tall, 2,000 pounds. He's a beast. He demands respect. When I was in his presence, I felt like I was in the presence of royalty, my psychic in Arkansas, I've been using forever and she's never been blocked by anything. He's gone to her and told her that she's not going to be able to foresee anything at the sacred site when we go to do our investigations because it's just for me and Chris.

And Chris was actually in deep meditation one day and he's seen a white Sasquatch looking at him through the woods and it shook him. and it knocked him out of his meditation. When I asked him what shook him, he wasn't being truthful to me. He said, he goes, oh, it's just that it was white, but I had a feeling he wasn't telling me everything, you know. And when I talked to my psychic in Arkansas, who does not know Chris from, doesn't even know who Chris exists, she needed to cite, the Sasquatch told her that she needed to start mentoring Chris psychically. So now she's mentoring Chris to develop this.

Because Chris was just like a flesh and blood guy. He didn't do anything paranormal-wise. But he had an experience down in the green swamp, and he brought something dark home with him. And I had to call some people I knew on the paranormal side to cleanse his house and seal it, you know? So this Saskatch what she told her, she needed to start mentoring Chris.

And when she called me up and she's like, who's Chris Reinhart? And I'm, why am I supposed to mentor him? I'm like, how do you know Chris, you know? And she said, this giant white Sasquatch came to me and told me that he was a, you know, a king shaman and yada, yada, yada. And I was like, okay. And he told her that, you know, don't try to foresee what's going to happen at the sacred site

because he's going to block her and she won't be able to see. And we did go out recently. and she was blocked. She couldn't see anything. She's like, he's got me blocked. I can't see nothing. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers,

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and then I had another experience with a difference as which a female who told me her name was hyanet capital H-Y-N H-H-Y

H-Y capital N-E-T-H-N-E-T-H-A-H-A higher net capital H-Y-A-H-A-A-T-A-K-C-T-A dash N-E-H and she told me that she was excited that I was going back to the sacred site after two years because I was researching at other locations and she was excited and her clan was excited because she's the alpha male to meet Chris Reinhardt because they heard wonderful things about him and I was like freaking out like what is this real like this dream real and I called

not only my psychic, but other people I know who are connected to these creatures are people, I should call them psychically. And they both of them, everyone has told me, yeah, this is really happening. This is really going on. And, you know, you guys are going to have some amazing experiences when you go out because Chris is coming down here. I'm going up to his location in the Berkshire Mountains. That's what he researches. And apparently this Allarek is going to come down and introduce himself to us and tell us what we're supposed to be doing or what he wants us to do.

And it's just absolutely insane. Like when my psychic told me that she had the same vision to Chris. And then I asked her, I said, was there anything strange about him? And she said, the only really strange thing about him is that he's got these fire. ball red eyes. She goes, but don't be scared because he's not scary. It's just who he is. And the one

I seen on the parkway had the same fire ball red eyes. So then when I spoke to Chris one day and I said, what was it about that thing that freaked you out? What was like, you know, was there something strange about him? And he goes, no. And he goes, was there something strange about the one you

seen? And I said, yes, the one I seen had these fireball red eyes. And then Chris was like, okay, I got to come clean. Yeah, the one I've seen had fireball red eyes. That's what knocked me out of my meditation. So we're all seeing the same guy. You know what I mean?

And it's just crazy that like his saskwatches are communicating what my Sasquatch is telling him because he's had psychic, even though he doesn't believe in the psychic ability. Like he doesn't, not that he doesn't believe it, he questions all of his experiences, you know, because he's always been a flesh. and blood kind of guy. And I told him, I said, Chris, the longer you do this, the stranger it's going to get

and you're not going to be that flesh and blood guy for long because things are going to get weird and things have really gotten. He started having telepathic communications way before I did, you know? And apparently Alarek is connected to me, him and my psychic in Arkansas. So it's absolutely insane what's going on up here. That is extremely intense and just a huge group of synchronicities for sure between, you know, Alarek and Hyaneth. And that's wild. And I wanted to ask you, you know, about the New York State Sasquatch organization.

I'm sure most listeners are aware how large a state New York is. I was just curious, how are you, you know, narrowing down what area to go to? for your research areas. Is there a, you know, a certain location that you try to focus on or anything like that? Well, I'm at the southern tier

the Catskill Mountain Range and the Catskill Mountain Range by itself is like 500,000 acres, okay? And then you have the Adirondacks about three hours, two and a half hours north of me, which are like 6 million acres. But what the way I do it is I get pulled. I get pulled to locations. Like something will say, you got to go here,

you got to go here. Like, I'm just being pulled there. And then when I go there, and I really don't know what I'm looking for, but I'm looking, you know, and then I start to see all kinds of signs, arches and X and bends and breaks and twists and little rock carrings that they make, you know, those carons that they build. I start seeing. signs. Once I start seeing signs and I know I'm in a I'm in a good location, then I'll go back and I'll start doing what we do. We have a couple of different things we do to try to make contact with them or to bring them in. You know what I mean? So we we play with Tibetan Singham Bulls frequencies. You know, we try to bring them in that way.

Native American drum music or flute music will bring them in. I like to go whenever I go out to do an investigation, I always go day night and I always go old school, new school. So, you know, I know a lot of guys just are all high-tech stuff. Sometimes those high-tech stuff, the batteries die, they don't work, and you need that old-school stuff to really bring everything together, you know. And so I go out day night. I know a lot of investigators or researchers that only go out during the day.

And I tell them you're only getting about 10% of the activity you could be getting because these fast-wash people are nocturnal. They hunt at night. They move at night. And you get so much more. But I understand it's scary to be four miles in the woods, deep in the woods, not being able to run out if you had to because you're off trail and, you know, they fit people afraid. They're just afraid to be out there and being vulnerable like that. But I don't go out with

any subconscious fear in my head. And my psychic reads everybody who comes out with me. And if there's anybody on the group that's coming out with me and they have subconscious fear, they stay behind. They're not allowed to come. And so I never go out. I'm never afraid when I go out. I'm always looking for, not that I know what to expect. I mean, look, even if my psychic tells you what I'm going to expect, sometimes the stuff she says is so off the charts, you know, I got to laugh at her and she's the real deal, you know what I mean? Being from New York, I didn't believe in psychics for years until I met this woman. She's Native American. She's fifth generation. She's, I tested her. She caught me every time I tested her. She's done stuff that absolutely

blows my mind. Chris is dealing with her now and Chris has called me every day. He's like, you're not going to believe what Cindy said now. I can't believe. How does she notice? And I say she just does, man. I told you. She just does, you know. And so I don't bring anybody out with me who has any subconscious fear because I don't want anything. And I tell people all the time, especially squatchers, guys who go in the woods, protect yourself not only physically, but spiritually, because there is so much stuff in the woods that you don't know what you're going to run across. So you have to protect yourself spiritually. That was the problem with Chris.

When he went to the green swamp in Florida, he protected himself physically, but he wasn't thinking, you know, paranormal wise spiritually. And he something dark attached to him and he brought it home to Connecticut, you know. And thank God I had friends who lived not too far from him. We're able to take care of it, you know, but you have to protect yourself spiritually. And now, listen, Halloween is coming. They're going to have all those haunted attractions and cemetery tours. Protect yourself before you go into those attractions.

Those attractions are attracting dark energy. I can't tell you how many people I know that have done a cemetery tour and had something come back, dark attached to them. Protect yourself. spiritually before you go on those tours, before you go in those haunted houses, before you go in those hayrides, protect yourself spiritually.

And if you're going out, squashing, protect yourself spiritually and physically, I don't allow anybody to carry firearms when I go out. Sure. Because I don't trust anybody with a gun but me. And if I'm not carrying one, you're not carrying one. But we do go out with 18-inch machetes

and 10-inch survival knives and pepper spray and stuff like that, you know, I've never, I've been bluff charged, but not by a Sasquatch by a dog man, but that's a different story. But I've never had anything bad happened to me at any of my locations. And I've been going to the sacred site forever. And I've never had anything bad happened to me there, you know. So I'm very confident when I'm at my locations and I'm dealing with my group of my clients. that I'm okay. You know what I mean? I don't have to worry about anything messing with me at that point.

That is, you know, absolutely true. You know, when you get involved with certain things, you want to be aware of what you are getting into and how it can affect you, but also your home, your family, and you have to be very careful about how you position yourself with certain things. I had a weird question come into my mind. And it may not hit or anything. But have you ever gone to look at, do you know Catskill Game Farm? Absolutely. Been there a million times.

Anything weird going on? I know it's an abandoned property now, right? Yeah, but they've redone it up. They've fixed it up to be like an Airbnb. B&B. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I will tell you an experience we had at the Catsville game farm where my children

were young. We took them up there. We were up at the Catsfields. There's a water park up there we used to go to. And the game farm wasn't far from the water park. We were walking into the park one day. And the Lions cage or the Lions facility was, God, it had to be a quarter mile away. And it was down in like a ditch.

like a gully, right? And there was one line that was just going off. You, the growls and what this lion was doing, every other

animal in the game farm was losing its mind. They were freaking out. It was so scary that as we were walking towards it, because I mean, I want to see the lion doing this, right? I'm all excited like, oh my God, this is crazy. you know, it's so deep and it's so powerful.

And we're so far away, but yet you can feel its energy, like go through you, you know? And this thing is down in a gully like 50 feet below us and it's coming up and going out. We got about 100 yards away from 50 yards away. And my wife and kids refuse to go any further, you know? But I went right down to it to see. And this line, and I'm thinking, here's this line. with maybe, you know, 500 pounds doing this. And it's got every animal in the game for I'm going nuts.

And the infrasound that was going through me, vibrating my body, was terrifying, just terrifying. And I knew what it was. And I could see it doing it. And it was still, you know, I was well protected. There's no way he could have jumped up out of that ditch to get me. So you can't imagine when a Sasquatch goes off in the middle of the woods and you're there to feel it. I can't emphasize enough the power they have that goes right through you. It's like getting hit with a shockwave from a bomb.

You know what I mean? It's unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. But I haven't heard anything like haunted at the Casfield game farm. I never heard anything like that. There are other locations up there, like some old abandoned Wild West villages that were like back in the 60s and stuff,

70s were like Wild West attractions that I heard are abandoned, but I haven't heard anything about the game farm itself. That's such an interesting story with that lion. Just that very cool anecdotal story. Al Santorega, the Squatch father, I would love to talk to you a little bit about dog man. So you're not only just into Bigfoot,

but you're also looking into Dogman in the state of New York. Can you tell my listeners like, what is going on with Dogman in your state? Well, I mean, it's not just my state. It's every state. If you have Sasquatch, you have Dogman. Okay. There's no doubt in my mind about that.

At one of my locations I go to, the Sasquatch is on the east side of the mountain range. And the dogmen, no, the Sasquatch are on the west side of the mountain range. I'm sorry. And the dogmen are on the east side of the mountain range. And they're everywhere. They're not just here in New York. They're wherever you have Sasquatch, wherever you have these large national forest, you'll find these creatures. I mean, we've actually taken reports of them being at Central Park in New York City being spotted.

You know what I mean? So they're not just in the woods. They're in the cities too. Yeah, no, like I said, what happened was originally when we were getting invited to symposiums, and we were going as the Bronxville Paranormal Society because, you know, we did everything. we were getting a lot of grief from like the eophologist. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.

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Pine Bush is supposed to be the UFO capital in New York State. We go there. We get invited every year. We go there. We were actually on the board at one point. We go there every year. We put up all of our UFO banners. You know what I mean?

And now nobody gets us any grief because you don't have to deal with like the Mufon people or stuff like that, you know? Because if you're not part of Mufon, they... They look at you cock-eyed, you know what I mean? So I am part of Mufant, so I get invited anyway, you know. But even if I go as the New York State UFO project, I don't catch any grief. And that's how all the groups actually got started. You know what I mean? We said, you know, we didn't come here to fight with anybody.

Let's make everybody happy. And we'll have the same team to give it different labels, different parts of the, you know, one of one unit. And so when we did the dogman stuff, we came up with the dogman, the New York City Dogman project. We were actually, before we started the New York State Dogman Project,

we were, like my and my partner, Brian, we were National, North American Dog Man Project New York State Chapter directors. That's what our title was. And then there was an issue with somebody on the NADP and us. I'm actually my partner.

And so we decided to just walk away from that, start our own group. We ended up with the New York State Dog Man project. But eventually that guy left, and Jody Cook, who's the founder of it, asked us to come back and be directed. As a matter of fact, they want me to be the regional director, the Eastern Regional Director, but I really don't have time to be the region. I barely have enough time to be the state director,

never mind the whole region, you know. But so we started our own thing, and we knew we had experienced dog manics at a couple of different locations. and we knew where they were and, you know, if we went to certain locations, like, long story shot, we found a den.

And in the den, right? I was being pulled into the woods, didn't know why, being pulled into the woods. Long story shot, we find a den, and we zoom into the den. My camera guy has like this camera that you can see the alien bases on the moon. And he zooms into the dead.

den and there's a giant canine head um like a wolf head uh facing south and right next to that is another one that looks like a hyena snarling at us okay and we were actually at that location once before where we were bluff charged and at the point we were bluff charged we thought we were being bluffed charged by a big foot because the big foot came out and did three whoops and then it did tree knocks and I did tree knocks and it did rock knocks and then eventually it threw a rock at us the size of a ball and ball that came down over the trees and landed in between all three of us and hindsight being 2020 it was trying to get us out of that location because we were in a danger zone You know, we didn't know that the dogman's den was behind us in the swamp.

We were up on a high ridge, and it was trying to get us out of there. But we, I was very stubborn that night. I wouldn't leave. And eventually the Bigfoot backed away. And the dog man, Bluff charges, came charging up the ridge after us. And we pulled out our machetes and we stood our grounds. And we heard it come charging up like a quadruped charging up the ridge. But it never came over.

It was like a little stone, three foot stone wall. It never came over to stone wall. The whole time, we thought it was the Bigfoot. Months later, we put all our evidence out on our pages, on our YouTube page and on our Facebook page. And actually somebody from, I think it was from California, called me up and said, you know, in that one photograph you took that stone wall? And I was like, yeah.

He says, there's a dog man in that photograph. I was like, send me the picture. He sends me the picture. I thought it was Photoshopped, right? I look at it. I take my SD card out of my camera. I put it in my computer. And right there, I mean, I don't know how we didn't see it, but there it is.

And I believe it's the one that looked like the hyena that was standing behind the wall sniffing us. And you could see its nose and it's got a square mug and it's snout. And it's got pointed ears. And you can see its eyes shine from the flash of the camera. And then that same guy sent me and he called me up again. He said, hey, Al, you know, you got a big foot in that picture of you guys at the Meadow, which we had moved out of that location at one point and moved to another location. We were doing three different, one, two, three different locations that night.

And he said, you know, you got a big foot underneath the tree at the meadow. And I was like, what are you talking about? And he said it to me, again, I thought it was Photoshopped. And again, I put the SD card in there. and there, you know, in the shadows of the photo, underneath this one little red oak maple tree, the only tree that has leaves on it, right, is this giant Sasquatch head.

And you can see it's like leaning on its belly and it's on its forearms and it's watching us. Now, I don't know if it was watching us because what we were doing, there was a lot of stuff going on in the middle. And it's way too much to get into. now, but if it was watching us because of all the activity we had going on, or if it was just hanging around to make sure those two dogmen didn't come out of that den and shred us,

you know? But I think the reason why that one dog man chose not to come over that wall was because all three of us did have 18-inch machetes, you know what I mean? And I believe the dog man and the Bigfoot as well, respect. of the long blade more than the gun, you know? Because they've been on this planet for millennium. They've probably dealt with men for thousands of years and seeing what swords and spears and long knives can do to each other, to them as well, you know?

So, yeah, I think it was those long blades that stopped. And I think it was because we were set up in like a triangle formation with me at the front. I've got to be brutally honest, which you, when I heard this thing coming up the ridge, and you could hear the bipedal because it was, again, it was in the fall, and there was a lot of leaflet, and you can hear all four legs hitting the ground, jump, running, coming up. I thought, not that I thought it was the Bigfoot charging us,

I thought it was either a black bear or a mountain lion. And I said, oh, my God, this mountain lion is going to come over this wall. I'm going to be the first person that sees. I'm going to have to sacrifice my left arm and stab it with my machete. You know what I mean? And, but nothing came over the wall. And but the crazy thing is we never heard it leave either. You know, as loud as it was coming up the ridge, it never made it sound leaving.

So I don't know where it went. But that's a long, it's another experience that goes on. That's a long experience had so much stuff involved in that one. If I tell you everything that happened on that night, it would blow your mind. Oh, absolutely. it's crazy because you kind of, there's a, there's a place I was wanting to go and you kind of already went there a little bit. So I'm excited you already did. But let me preface this question a little bit. So there's a podcast I love called Cryptids of the Corn. And they have an episode

about Dogman, but it's specifically down in Kentucky. And it's not all about Dogman, but it talks about how the potentiality that Dogman could be a misidentified North American high. hyena. And you kind of brought up that what you saw looked like a hyena in that sighting. Do you have any thoughts? Like, do you think there could be a correlation there? Or if you think Dogman is another thing entirely, what do you think this creature is? I personally, I believe there are a couple of different misidentifications.

I believe there is a creature that is wolf-like that can go bipedal, that is flesh and blood. I believe it's, I don't know where it's from or how it got here, but I believe there is a flesh and blood creature. All of the world-renowned psychics that I have met over the years at all the symposiums, whenever I get to sit down at a table, one of these psychics, I have to pick their. brains. And one of the first questions I always ask them is, what's your opinion on dog man? And they always tell me interdimensional being. That's what they tell me, interdimensional being. Now, I believe there are dogmen that are interdimensional beings. But then there are people who say that dog man come in their house, this and that, the other thing. And I think the creatures that they're seeing that are that are actually coming into these people's homes and scaring them

and threatening them and are demonic creatures that are using their fear of the dog man to get that um uh adrenaline you know what i mean that's the rush from them the feet off of that fear you know what i mean i don't believe that even if the dog man is interdimensional and it can go from our dimension to another realm. I don't think necessarily it's using that ability to pop in and out of people's homes. You know, I've heard too many stories with, hey, we just ripped the door off of hinges

and shred everybody in the house. They're not popping in and out. You know, now I've, I've, I've interviewed, I've talked to people who have killed these creatures, you know what I mean? So they can be killed. And I've talked to people, who have shot them multiple times,

follow them, follow the blood trail to a certain point, and then it just disappears. Those are the ones, I think, that are interdimensional. They go back to their dimension, heel, and the ones that they actually, that are killed here, I believe, are flesh and blood creatures. So I think there's three variants of them as far as like flesh and blood, interdimensional,

and demonic creatures that may, resemble dogman, but, you know, a demonic creature can resemble whatever your biggest fear is. I have heard the interdimensional way of looking at that creature from, it was Jody Cook. We talked years ago, and he had some very interesting thoughts about these could be alien creatures coming from different worlds and trained by the government, et cetera, and it was just really eye-opening for sure. But, you know, has there been a time when, let's say, you've been out involved with looking for Dogman or a Dogman expedition? And things have just got very intense.

And you were like, you know, I would much rather not be in the situation right now. Well, there was a time where we were, we were actually, we went out one night to do, there's an abandoned asylum here in New York State called, Letchworth. village. Okay. It's a whole village that's basically abandoned, but it was an asylum and it was a hospital. And we were investigating

a hospital one time. We ran it to security guard. And security guard said, you have to go to the cemetery. The cemetery is really weird. And they've seen like these light orbs, like tubes of light come out of the ground, you know?

And they said, you guys would love, you got to go there and investigate it. So we said, okay, we'll go investigate it. So one fall, my partner and I, Brian, we went, really guys on the team. I never had everybody on a team go to any investigation completely. Someone's always working or going to a wedding or something like that. So Brian and I go out and we're now this particular cemetery, not like any cemetery you've ever seen in your life. And there's no signs for it.

I thought we were going to a city cemetery where you could drive right up to the plot, you know what I mean? I've investigated a ton of cemeteries in New York and you usually can drive through them. But we pull into this location. It's just like a dirt parking lot. We pull in there and we go in and the cemetery, there's a giant stone, you know, monument to all the people who are buried there with their names on it because there are no headstones there.

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you'll receive AARP benefits for two. Go to AARP.org slash IHeart to join today. There it just crosses with numbers on it, okay? And it's built on a hill, so all the crosses go up the hill. And it's in the middle of the woods. I mean, we had to walk like a quarter mile into the woods to find this place, you know?

And we actually had some. something attached to me there. Because Brian was like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, you know, I'm in denial. I'm saying like, there's nothing wrong with me. But I felt that there was something attached to me, you know. And he's telling me, oh, you don't sound like you or you don't look like you. You're not acting.

And I'm like, what hell am I acting like? Or am I talking like, you know? But I had known. And I was in denial. And he knew I was in denial. But so we were doing a day night. And we went there and we did all our stuff, all our testing during the day. and there was a must have been like a dog camel in the neighborhood

because there were dogs were just going off and off and off. And I did a tree knock. I don't know why I did a tree knock, but I did a tree knock. And when I did a tree knock, the dogs all went silent. So we made, we made, we made it. That's a very interesting, you know. We started noticing, again, it's a location where we've been there for hours walking around and it felt like we had blinders on.

Like we should be seeing more, but we're not seeing anything. But after that tree knock, it's like the blinders were removed. And now we're seeing axes and arches and bends and breaks and twist. And we're thinking, wow, this is really crazy. You know, this could be a hot location for Bigfoot being, but we're in the middle of a city, you know. But these woods, the city's built around these woods. So as we're walking out of the woods, I'm being pulled to my left. I don't know why I'm being pulled to my left.

So I said, Brian, come this road. We're walking, we're walking, we're walking. And we're walking across this rocky terrain. I mean, you couldn't run across this terrain if you tried. If you went down, you were breaking your knee, your head, or whatever. You had to be very careful. And we came across this tree, and the only way I could describe it, is it looked like this giant oak tree, what other trees, long trees, 60-foot trees, jammed up into it.

Okay? And it went around in a circle like a carousel. And to me, it kind of looked like an umbrella without any skin on it, you know, that was opened. And we're looking at this thing. And the trees that are jammed into the main tree are. so big. I mean, there have to be a foot and a half of diameter. There's 60 feet long.

But the crazy thing about it is they're not touching the ground. They're like nine feet in the air. And we're thinking, what had the strength to do this and still have these up nine feet in the air? They're not even hitting the ground, you know?

And then Brian started getting pulled deeper into the woods. And I stopped them. I said, Bryce, stop. I feel like were being pulled into a trap. We're in a really, really bad place. We can't barely walk on all these rocks, you know. Never mind trying to run out of here.

Let's back out of here and come back later. So we backed out and come back later. A lot of crazy stuff happened that night when we were there. But as we were leaving, we had to park the Jeep across the street. There was one street light on this whole block. and it was by the entrance of a hiking trail. And I had a Jeep. So I didn't know if I could park on the road.

There was no cars parked on the street. There was no cars parked in the dirt park lot. So I didn't want to park there and let everybody know that there were people in the cemetery. So I parked underneath this streetlight. I got my Jeep up off the road onto the dirt. And I parked underneath the streetlight right next to this hiking trail. And we went in. Okay.

And we're having all these. experience. And again, the dogs, and I'm walking with my camera recording, and the dogs are all going off. And then you hear this one dog or, you know, at the time we thought it was a dog, okay, it did something. I don't know if you want to call it a bark or a growl or whatever it was, but it was so much louder and powerful than any of the other dogs. We just turned around and we looked at each of like, we know what that is. And all the dogs stopped barking at that point. And it got really quiet. And it came right from the direction where my Jeep was parked.

Okay. So now we're leaving us. We're leaving the cemetery. We got all the evidence. We're leaving. We got our headlamps on because we're walking out. It's in the dark. And we get to the edge of the road.

It's a two-lane road. And my Jeep is parked underneath the, the head, the lamp, the street lamp, the street light. And as we start to walk across the street, I see eyeshine behind my Jeep. But it's not like a something small. It's like it looks like it's six feet tall, what's ever behind my Jeep. So I stopped Brian. I go, wait, stop.

I said, what's that? And he looks and he sees the eye shine. And it's amber eye shine. And it's looking at us. And we're looking at it. And, you know, and we're doing. debating, trying to be, you know, logical, isn't a deer, if it is, it's a big buck, you know. I was like, man, that thing is like the size of Marmer Duke, you know, look at the size of that thing, you know.

And I'm like, now we don't have any weapons on us because we were going to a regular cemetery in the city. So all I got on me are two cans of pepper spray, you know. And so I gave one to Brian and I had one on my bag. And as we're walking closer to it, so, well, if it's a deer, The closer we get to, it will jump off and run away. But the closer we're getting to, now we're in the middle of the road, and I'm getting these really, really bad vibes.

Like, this is not good. And I turned to Brian, I said, Brie, this is not no deer. You know, I didn't use that language, a little profanity. I said, this isn't any deer. Because whatever this thing is, it's not run. I said, whatever this thing is,

it's hunting that trail. Now, if it's hunting that trail, and it's six feet tall because the eye shine is about as high as I am six feet tall, either it's standing straight up or it's something sitting on its hansches. And if it's something sitting on its hansches, how tall is it when it stands up? And I told Brian, I said, either this thing, and neither one of us wanted to use the D word, right? I said either this thing is hunting that trail because deer use it to go back and forth across the road and it's a good hunt, a good ambush spot, or it's hunting that trail because it thinks some idiot is parked here jogging this trail at night and it's, and we're easy prey. You know what I mean? And Brian's like, I don't know, Alice, we'll just keep going and maybe it'll run off as we get closer and closer.

My spidey sense is tingling, and I'm like, dude, I don't like this. I feel vulnerable. This is no good. This is that and the other thing. And then Brian says, I have to piss. And I was like, well, you're not pissing here. Get in the Jeep and I'll pull on the other side of the road and you can piss in the empty lot across the street because I don't know what this thing is. And it's not leaving.

You know what I mean? It hasn't moved. he's like, no, I have to go right now. If I don't go right now, I'm going to pee in your car. So you're not going to pee in my car. So you better go. So he steps out behind the car, a couple of feet. I'm throwing all our equipment into the back of my Jeep.

Never taking my eyes off of this thing because I am getting such bad vibes that we are in harm's way. And we both know. We just both know we're dealing. with a dog man here and where and he's peeing and he's doing this piss that goes on for like three hours and I'm screaming and cursing at him get in the effing car brian or I'll leave you and he's like you're not going to leave me what would you tell my wife and kids ha ha ha ha I'm like dude get in the car because I swear to God I feel like if this thing explodes out of this woods

not only is he a dead man because he's got his back to him but I'm a dead man only thing I got between me and him is my Jeep door. So eventually, this creature goes dark. Now, I don't know if it closed its eyes or if it shut off the light in its eyes. I don't know what it did. But every fiber of my being was telling me that it had dropped down to its belly

and it was belly crawling towards Brian. I jumped in the Jeep and I backed the Jeep. And I backed the Jeep up as close as I can to him without hitting him or the tree. And I swing my passenger inside door open to put it in between him and this creature. Because that's the only thing that is going to stop this creature from grabbing him and ripping him to shreds of that door. And at some point, during his 20-minute piss, he got the goosebumps from head to tell that he was in harm's way. And he said, okay, now it's time to go. And he jumped in that truck.

And I did a dukes of hazard, 360 out of air. And I couldn't get out of air fast enough kicking up dirt. And I don't know how close we came to being killed that night. But I'm going to say we came pretty damn close, considering we didn't have any weapons to defend ourselves. That's intense. Man, that could have ended a whole different way. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

Scariest thing is that you said it's in the middle of a city, like a city town where it's unexpected. Yeah, there's like a little, like a little neighborhood built right across the street. But like I said, you can't see the neighborhood from the cemetery because you're still a quarter mile away in the woods, you know, and there's nothing but woods around you, you know. And, yeah, and I think it was that dog man that made down. structure because I had never seen anything quite like that in my life. And it was just the most craziest look at structure you ever seen. It really was. And I believe, and this is just one man's opinion, I believe that dog man seen that Jeep and said,

oh, easy price. Someone is hiking this trail. And it's at night. And he said, I'm just going to sit here for whoever this idiot is come running down the trail and I'm going to grab them and drag them away and no one will ever find them and but we didn't come down the trail we didn't go up the trail we came from across the street and its eyeshine gave it away you know because you couldn't see it in the in the book even though it was the fall it blended into the to the shrubs and everything you couldn't see and i i'm telling you when i when that thing

went dark and i could no longer see it's ours every alarm in my brain was going off time to leave, time to leave. I couldn't get Brian to get in the car. I just wanted to put that road in my car between him and that creature while he went and urinated, you know what I mean? Yeah. But he wouldn't, he said

he couldn't make it across the street. How long was it going to take us to get across the street? Five seconds, ten seconds. He couldn't make it, he said. And I was like, dude, you're going to get us both. You know? Right. Oh, man. That's been terrible. It's something

you had mentioned in passing earlier is you mentioned that someone has actually taken down a dog man before. Is that anything you have any more info about? One group were a bunch of

you know people you know like outdoor people. You know what I mean? People who want I mean? People who hunt for a living and stuff like that. And you know, they took it down and then they buried, they put the bodies in ditches and burnt them.

So there was no evidence of them because the government is watching these creatures. I had a, how do I put this? I had men and black experience over my dog man investigations. I wasn't necessarily guys in black, but they looked like special. guys, you know what I mean? And they knew everything about me and Brian and our groups and everything. And we held two meetings, one downstate, one upstate, and everything about everything. And they threatened me with stuff that was so vile that I was like, listen,

keep me out of the woods for two years. You know, I didn't go back in the woods. But they do monitor these creatures, you know. And so, yeah, I mean, just, you know, you. the second group were Native Americans that I know. There's an Iroquois Museum not far from my house. And whenever I get the opportunity to go there, I'd like to go there and do a tour.

And, you know, they know me now. I've picked enough brains. And I go to there and I talk to the elders. And I pick their brains about stuff. And whenever there's, whenever the tribes in this area have powwows, they have two or three of them in this. area. I go to all three. Again, I try to sit down with the elders and the shamans and pick their brains. Big for society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers,

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Go to AARP.org slash iHeart to join today. I've been to enough room now that they know who I am. You know what I mean? So they tell me stuff. And one of the ones that were that told me about them killing the dog, men were the Native Americans. They said they killed them and they buried them in the, the sacred cemeteries, you know, their sacred sites, you know.

So they just buried them. Yeah. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, like I said, the ones that are flesh and blood can be killed. And I, and honestly, personally, I believe the ones that are even interdimensional when they're here in our dimension,

they're flesh and blood, and they can be killed as well. You know what I mean? So the only thing you really can't kill are the ones that are demons that are disguising themselves as dogmen. But the other two, I believe, could both be killed. And like I said, now,

both groups, the guys I know, the hunters that I know that killed them at their hunting lodge. up in the Adirondacks, you know what I mean? They buried them on their property and the Native Americans on the, on their reservation, you know, both groups, the ones that were, they burnt and buried the bones, because no one wants to deal with any re-concussions from the government, you know. So I don't know what the government has to do with these creatures or what they're, you know,

what's going on, why they're, you know, why they're mine. monitoring them or what they're monitoring, but, you know, no one, no one wants to deal with the government when it comes to this stuff because, believe me, they don't play games. They, they, they don't play games. When I, when I was, had my experience, I felt like I was going to get whacked that day. I said, all these guys are going to whack me. Just leave me here. It's linched over my car, you know.

never mind all the vile stuff they were telling me that they were going to do to me if i didn't stay at our woods did they show up at their house at your house no but they they followed they followed me for about two weeks every day they would just it would like they would fall out of the sky in the middle of the park where they would be behind me every day and it didn't matter what time i left to go to work or what time i left work to come home i don't know if they were tracking me there was a certain location that every time I passed it, two minutes later they were behind me. I don't know where they came from. They just, boom, they were behind me, you know? And so I don't know if they were tracking my car or what, because I was trying to bury my time going to work from one day.

I would go four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock, and it didn't matter, no matter what time I went past that one exit, boom, two minutes later they were, and they would follow me for a couple exits and then they would get off just to remind me that they were still watching me you know so wow and the same thing coming home it didn't matter if i worked eight hours 10 hours and 12 hours whenever i came home so as i passed that exit boop there they were it's just to fall out of the sky never even seen them come on and get on the park we all all of a sudden they're right behind me just like they fall out of the sky but you're saying eventually came to a head where there was a confrontation and they were actually telling you to stay out of the woods.

The very first time they pulled me over. They pulled me over. There's an abandoned ski lodge up here off the parkway that I drive through and I drive on and it has this giant parking lot, you know, you would imagine a big park and left with ski lodge, right? And they had a lot of like construction material, the dirt and rocks and stuff. and one day I was driving home just cruising up the parkway, chilling,

you know, listening to Leonard Skinner just minding my own business. When this car pulls up behind me, falls out of the sky. And it's up here, the state police have blue and gold cars and the park police have white and green cars. Well, I see this park police car

pull up behind me, put its lights on, and tell me over the loudspeaker to pull into the abandoned, and, you know, get the ski resort. So I pull in. I know I'm not speeding. I'm just cruising, you know what I mean?

And I pull in and he tells me, go behind that big pile of rocks, you know, like gravel. So I go behind it, which didn't feel right to me to go behind her. So no one could see me back there, you know. And then I get back there. And again, on the loudspeaker, they say, shut the car off, take the keys out, throw it on the floor of the passenger.

side leave you seat belt on and put your hands on the steering wheel roll down the way of this. So I do what they're saying? Because I don't want to get shot. You know what I mean? I don't know who these guys are. I'm assuming they're regular cops, you know? And then they get out of the car.

And both of these guys look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean? And a long guy pulls out a little black book and he starts reading off of all this stuff about me and he's screaming at me. You know, you think you know what you're dealing with. You have no clue what you're dealing with. Stay out of long woods. And I was actually researching a certain location at that time that I had just seen a dog man at that location, you know.

So I was researching that area. And then the other guy starts screaming and they're both screaming at me from both sides of the car. But neither one of them came close enough to put their hands on the car. I said if they put the hands on the roof, like maybe I get their fingerprints, you know. And then I said, well, let me see some ID because you guys are in plain clothes. The guy goes, you want to see ID?

I go, yeah, I want to see ID. He showed me his gun. He goes, this is my ID. I said, okay, that's good. That's good enough for me, you know? And then the other guy actually pulled out a badge, but it was like the badge didn't match the car. It was like they pulled the badge off of a wall or something, you know, what I mean? Like maybe a retiree cop or something.

I don't know. Nothing felt right. You know, it didn't feel right. The whole thing. And they're screaming at me and it tell me this and it tell me that. It's out of the woods. And if you don't, you know, not only are you going to lose your pension, but you're going to, the other really, really bad things are going to happen to you.

We have the ability to do whatever we need to do to you via technology and everything else, you know. And I'm like, you know, time out, calm down. What do you guys want? just tell me what you want. You got it, you know. And then they're screaming, stand in the woods. We don't want you going into the woods. We don't want you going into state parks, county parks, national parks.

We don't even want you going to the soccer field. You know what I mean? They didn't want me in any kind of park, you know. And I was like, okay. And we were doing a UFO meeting upstate that Thursday. We did a paranormal one down in Westchester and a UFO one up in Dutchess County where I live. and we were doing a UFO meeting. And, you know, we've had a couple of experiences

where people came in that we thought were feds, you know, just the energy they put off. We both look at each other, as I said, that's a fed, you know. He's just monitoring the group. And then one of the guys says to me, oh, by the way, what are you guys discussing Thursday night, you know, a red hook? Because that's where the group was. And I go, UFOs.

And the other guy goes, yeah, stick to UFOs. Nobody gives a shit about them. stay out of my woods. I was like, until somebody does give a shit about it. Until somebody does give a shit about it, right? And then comes and knocks on my door. But I was like, okay, no problem. Then just before they left, they turned to me,

they go, oh, by the way, tell your fat effing friend, my partner, Brian, that we know where he lives. They gave me his building number. He lived in a big building down in the Bronx. Give me his building number, his apartment number, everything. You know, and they said, tell him it would be, terrible because you know what in new york city you can't own a gun it's impossible to own a gun right they said it would be terrible if he got arrested as a domestic terrorist because you never know

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But I'll pass the message along to him. and I called him up immediately and I was like, dude, you, this is just what happened. You have to stay out of the woods. You have to, you have to,

no, go into woods anymore. I said, if they arrest you as a domestic terrorist, you can't even call a lawyer. You have no rights as a domestic terrorist. God only knows what they'll say they pulled out of your apartment.

You know, they may come out in there with a bazooka, who knows, you know? And so he went out and he bought a two-way camera for his car. If he wanted to film him, You know, they pulled him over, you know. But he didn't, he, you know, we didn't do any more investigations in the woods. We started doing more CE5s and stuff like that.

We stayed away from the woods for a couple of years because no one wanted to deal with that nonsense, you know. Wow. But I'll tell you what they told me. Yeah. But I won't. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm glad you made it through there and it sounds like you are going back into the woods again so that is that is good and hopefully nothing else comes out of that. I started going back in. I started going back in two years ago

I think again when COVID in 2020 I think in 2021 I started going back in again a couple of years had passed you know what I mean and I was like okay I think we're good at all I think you know what I honestly I think what happened was I happened to see one of these creatures at the location. So I went, which was one of my locations that I used for squashing, okay?

So I happened to see one of these creatures there. So I started investigating it. I think they were there investigating at the same time. And they seen me, you know, and I was messing up their investigation. And it just wanted me added there. because they were in the middle of something and then it needs some greenhorn like me, you know, coming in and messing up their gig, you know?

So I think that's what that was all about. That makes sense. I haven't seen or heard. Yeah, I haven't seen. I've been back to that location a couple of times now and again, found all kinds of big foot footprints there and a knee print, a fist print, all kinds of stuff. No more, I haven't seen any more dogman evidence there.

But I haven't seen anybody else there either, you know what I mean? So it's just been me. Oh, sure. Al-Santariga, Squatchfow, this has been an incredible chat. I mean, you've got, you've been through some amazing things. Thank you so much for hanging out tonight for chatting and sharing some things with my audience. But what are ways that people can keep up to date with all this incredible things you've got going on? Yeah, you could just check out the Bronxville Power and all.

Society on Facebook. We have a group page and we have a members page. The group, I do most of my posting in the group page. Brian does it on the other one. But we also update the New York City UFO project, the Dogman Project and the Bigfoot Project. I'm actually going out October Friday to 13th. I'm going back out to do an investigation.

There's going to be 1% of the. moon out that night. So it should be an interesting night. And then I'm going back out on the 28th. There's going to be a full moon that night. So that should be interesting. And I want to compare how a full moon and a no moon, you know, kind of energy brings and what kind of evidence, you know, we can collect. So it should be interesting. Absolutely. I'm sure we'll be hearing from you in the future. Al, Thank you so much for coming on tonight. No problem.

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