Bigfoot Society - Thanksgiving with the Swamp Apes | Florida

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

What happens when a Florida hunter stumbles onto more than just deer in the palmettos? In this gripping and emotional episode, we sit down with Stephen, a traditional bow maker whose life was forever changed one Thanksgiving morning in 1995. Deep inside Three Lakes Wildlife Management Area, Stephen and his hunting partner came face to face with not one — but two Sasquatch, including a massive black female clutching what may have been a baby or a pregnancy.Stephen recounts eerie moments from the swamps — snapped oak branches, thunderous bipedal chases, and the unforgettable sight of a bow-legged creature fleeing into the palmettos. We also trace his early childhood encounter in Massachusetts, the footprint discovery in Indiana, and the anxiety that followed these life-altering experiences.From Island Pond to Johnson Slough, this episode digs into what it means to be a knower — and why one family of swamp apes left a hunter forever changed. More than just a sighting, this story raises questions about fear, belief, and the truths hiding in our forests.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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See lows.com for details. Visit your nearby lows on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account comes from a hunter who spent decades in the swamps of Florida. Thanksgiving morning, two figures stepped out of the Palmettoes, but one of them was holding something no hunter ever expects to see. This is one account you definitely won't want to miss. So stay with us. All right, Pickfoot Society.

You've got the privilege of talking to Stephen today. Stephen is a traditional bowmaker from down there in Florida. He's got some really interesting things that have happened to him over the years. So it's a privilege to have him on the show today. How are you doing today, sir? Oh, I'm doing wonderful. How about yourself? Yeah, I'm doing great.

It's not too hot up here in Iowa, so we're enjoying it. We're out of the corn sweat stuff. So if people know what that is. But, you know, I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to you, Steven, so that you have the time to share what you experience. I can't wait to hear about it, man. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. It's funny you mentioned corn sweat.

I'm in Indiana, and that's where I moved to. And, oh, Lord, we got so much corn here. It's crazy. A little bit about me. I was born in Massachusetts. and lived there for up until I was 18 or 19 years old. Growing up, I was kind of like the Daniel Boone kid. You know, I love the woods.

Spent a lot of time in the woods and the swamps and doing all kinds of stuff. And I was always interested in the outdoors and stuff and hunting and fishing and stuff like that, which my parents did not like me hunting. We moved to the great... Great Woods in Norton, Massachusetts in a little cabin and we lived there

I don't know for five or six, seven years until I moved away. I was in a band and the guy said, hey, let's move to Florida. So I just turned 18 or 19,

I think it was in 79. And, you know, so we went on the road and went to Florida and I stayed there. And I lived in Florida for 43 years. And from there,

you know, the music career, About 30 years into that, I injured my ears on a show and started realizing that, you know, the music industry is complicated. And I spent my whole life wanting to do this. And I realized that, well, I better have a plan B, you know. So I started doing a lot of things in between. I started my own business in 83, furniture service business, finishing mostly. I became a fullest.

Did that for quite a few years. Did upholstery and service repairs on various pieces of furniture and whatnot. Plus played in the band. And then I started making bows in 2004, between 2000, 2004. And, you know, I was really passionate about it, started making them out of wood and all that. But I just kept doing it and doing it. And finally people were like, hey, these are nice. You know, I want one.

So that was a supplementary income for me. And so I just continued to do that. And that's where I'm at today pretty successfully. And very happy I have what I have. So I've been into hunting quite a bit my whole life, mostly bow hunting. Started off with compound bow. And then got bored with that and went with trad. And the place where I saw this is Three Lakes Wildlife Management Area.

And before I get into my siting, I want to back up to Massachusetts again. Me and my sister and I were walking through this woods, and it was massive, but there was a trail going right through it, through the middle of it. And we were always out there playing around. And it was snow on the ground, probably about six inches. and we decided to walk out into the woods one day, and I seen these footprints, and they weren't really big, but they were people footprints,

and it looked like barefoot. But they probably maybe a 12 or a 10 in size, my guess, but they were exactly right in front of each other, like step, four foot, step, and it was just like a line. That's what made me look at it, Because wherever walked didn't walk zigzagging like a person would do or an animal, they were all in a line. And I asked my sister if I said, what do you think that is?

She goes, I don't know, you know. So anyway, I never forgot that, didn't know what it was, and moved on and, you know, lived my life and whatnot, moved to Florida and started hunting at this place at Wildlife Management Area. and I had that place probably 15 years straight every year. I'd spend three weeks out there every year during both season and in gun season two. And I had some things happen a few times. There was this one place that I used to love to hunt. It was a swamp. And I don't know the name of it.

I know it was a slew. And I want to say it's Johnson's slew, but it's not that. It's some other weird name, which I can't remember. Very spooky swamp, because you had to wade through this, and nowhere are you going. I kept a trail cut so I wouldn't get lost. And there was an island out there, probably about two, three-acre island.

It was a high spot. It was full of live oak trees, big, huge ones. And it was a great place because the box would go out there and bed down and stuff. So one time I'm out there, and I used to go out there alone, I always had the spooks coming out there. I would never go out there in the dark. I would always wait until the sun just started coming up. Then I would hit the swamp, and I had to use hip boots most of the time because it was deep. And there's water moccasins and alligators and pigs and everything else out there.

So it's a little bit spooky. I get out in this place And I'm sitting in my stand Probably I don't know About 10 o'clock I hear this huge crash on the island I felt it

And I was like Dang I wonder what that was And it was a tree But So it just kept bugging me So I ended up leaving early Probably I stayed another hour or so

I ended up walking out And I get about 50 yards from my stand and I see this huge live oak branch green probably 12 inches across and live oaks

grow they have big branches that are low relatively low but this one was about 12 feet up I couldn't reach it it was just completely snapped off right at the tree and I looked at it and I said man there's no termites in this

there's no carpentry ants and I'm like wonder why I'm like, wonder why this broke. You know, and I mean, it was a big branch. So I'm like, hmm. So I just left. Didn't even think anything, you know, I'm mosey and on out of there. And kind of told the guys back at the camp, something weird happened to me.

And that was about it. Not too long after that, it might have been the next season or it might have been that season. I'm not sure. But I was hunting in the same slew, but about a mile the way the crow flies opposite which way the creek runs. And I was approaching it. And the wind was blowing right where I was approaching. And I knew that was wrong, but I had to ease through there to get to where I was going.

And as soon as I hit the tree line, which was basically Saul Palmetto's and Cypress trees, very thick. You couldn't see in there. I heard this huge just take off through the swamp. And that scared because at the time, we didn't have bear. And, you know, we had pigs and deer and stuff like that. But this was like a person. You could tell it was a bipedal because it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, snap.

And it was breaking these big downfall timbers that was jumping on her. You know, and deer just don't do that. And it ran very deep in there. I actually walked in there a little way. see if I could get an eyeball on what this was. But I never did find out, but it freaked me out. So I left there immediately, went back to the camp, talked to my, you know, I used to hunt with the same people.

I'm like, man, you wouldn't believe what happened. And they're like, ah, it could have been a bear, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I never seen no bear tracks, no bear out there. And I was always in some pretty heavy areas. So whether it was or not, I don't know. But so I just kind of wrote that off. But I think it was the next season. I didn't see a whole lot during archery.

It was gun season. And my friend Jim and Becky, good friends of mine, used to hunt with them all the time. It was Thanksgiving Day, 1995. And I had my family there and my wife and kids. She had her husband there and her dogs and all stuff. And we're camping out. So Jim and I decide we're going to go hunting until noontime.

girls will be cooking and all that so we get out we get out in the swamp early for a song it's up we didn't really see anything it was in and the climate right then was dry it was hot and it was dry not real hot but florida's hot so but it was dry we had a drought so the swamp wasn't full and i remember coming out um we were rifle hunting and course three lakes management area you have to use a orange vest and a hat and all that stuff. So my Bronco was parked down this fire trail and, you know, in about 20 yards. And down the road, there was about 150 yards. There was an overhang of live oak.

It looked like a tunnel. It was a really cool spot. So I went up to my Bronco and I unloaded my, well, Before I unloaded it, my window and my Bronco made a huge streak all the time, my electric window. And it's just going, ah! Jim's laughing at it. He goes, well, there ain't going to be sitting around here, no. And I'm like, yeah, whatever.

So I unloaded my stuff, and I walk out to the road. Now, Jim, he's unloading his now. And I see this dude walking down the road sideways, like away from me on an angle going into this big. parameda patch about 150 yards and from head to toe uh this dude i call him a dude um it he was he looked buckskin it was like uh orangey red uh color and it didn't look like a gilly suit because a gilly suit is bulky this wasn't bulky this thing was really tall like maybe seven foot but it it was lanky looking and long arms. That's what was weird to me.

And I said, Jim, look at this dude. And he comes out and he looks at him and he's like, dang, you don't have no orange on. I'm like, yeah, he's crazy. I said, what kind of suits he got on? And then he kind of eased into the palmettoes. So we're standing there looking going, hmm. And all of a sudden, right where he walked in, this other one walks out. but it walked straight to him,

and it wasn't going diagonal down the road. It walked straight out and went right in the middle of the road, and it stopped and looked up and seen us looking at it. And I'm going, whoa, and it was jet black. It wasn't as big, but it was big and had a big fat belly. And you could see the breasts on it from that distance. It was no doubt it was a female, because I remember Jimmy's like, that's a bang gal.

And I'm like, he's like, I think that's one of them dang swap apes. And I'm like, oh, boy, what? And we're looking at this thing, and it was jet black from head to toe. Now, I couldn't see any features other than a big belly that she was holding. And I could see her breasts. Couldn't make any facial features or anything like that. But when she's seeing us, it was like an old crap moment, you know. You could see the reaction.

As soon as she's seen us, she just like grabbed her gut tighter and just started and she ran bow-legged like she couldn't run right because of what she had around. And I think it might have been like a baby around her waist or she was just very pregnant. I'm not sure. But she ran into the Palmetta's where the other one ran. And meanwhile, you know, Jim and I are going,

what did we just see? You know, there was hair on them things, you know? And we're sitting there. we're just like whoa so we go we're going let's go down there so we went down there we drove down there we pull up and that side arm but

that didn't even enter my mind I walked in there a little bit Jim's behind me he goes Steve he goes I'm not going in there and I said yeah I think you're right he goes here's on my neck standing up he goes when that happens he goes I listen to it I'm like all right

I agree so we're sitting there out by the car out in the road or standing there actually and this guy drives up and I guess he was behind us down the road quite a ways he pulls up and he goes hey

what was that in the road and I look at and I got this because by now I'm starting to sink in that I just saw something weird and a guy's like you know they had hair on him right and that just nailed

the seal the deal for me I like, yeah, it looked like hair to me. He goes, no, he goes, it was hair. I was scoping him with my rifle. And he pulled his gun out and he had this big old scope on it. And I was like, well, I think there are swamp apes. And he just laughed. He goes, well, I wouldn't doubt it.

He just drove off. And Jim and I, meanwhile, we're wide eyes. Like we got this, you know, we call it moon on where he just round eyes. You're like, oh, man, you know, I got goose. Flums right now just talking about it. It comes back. And funny, these kids pull up. There's about four of them.

Y'all see anything? And Jim goes, well, we just saw two swamp apes. You should have seen these kids. What? And I'm like, yeah, we just saw two swamps walk across the road. They went in that swamp. And, man, they got out of there quick. They were like, you know, I'm not, can't say,

what they said, but they're, now we're leaving, so they just drove off. But anyway, so we get in the truck, we went back to camp. Now, we have to go through a check station, and you got a fill out of card. And Jim's looking at me, like, you're going to write it down? I said, yes, I am. They want to know what I saw. So I wrote it down. And the checkstation guy looks at it, because he always looks at him.

you guys start drinking kind of early haven't you? And I'm like, sir, we haven't drank a lick? And he looked at us and I said, y'all got some stuff out there that's weird. And he's like, well, all right. He just, you know, he didn't believe us. So I left it at that. We just drove off, went back to camp. And, oh, man, we got back to camp.

I remember Jim walking up to Becky. He's like, Becky, we just seen swamp apes out there. and Becky's like, oh man, you guys are, he was saying, you know, she said BS. You guys are BS and me, man, you didn't see. And Beck, and Jim's like, Becky. And you should have seen Jim's face. I mean, he was just white and wide-eyed. And I said, Beck, look at him.

This is what's normal to you? And she started, you know, mellowing out a little bit. Now, I told my wife, my wife, believe me immediately. She said, wow. Well, you know, did they come after you? I'm like, no, it was, you know, it was, you know, it was, you know, I don't know, circumstantial. We were in the right

place at the right time. The first one didn't even see us. But these things are real. And, you know, I'm just like, whoa. And needless to say, it tormented me. And it tormented Jim.

Becky would not go out in that swamp hunting again. I went out there two more times. And I had the bad vibes out there because I started putting all these things together that it happened out there. You know, two things. It was them. And they were warning me or trying to scare me out.

So I left three tree stands in there. I never went back in there. And, you know, last time I went in there, I was with somebody. And I told them, I said, I'm done with this place. I'll never come back here again. and so in between that I contacted the BFRO and you know made a citing report and all that

and they took Jim's name out of there I don't know why but anyway she'd come out one of the girls come out and met me we walked around went back in there and it was some interesting things that we found but nothing you know no footprints or weird stuff but we did find a couple of branches

twisted off and we found a few drops of blood on some palm metals which was kind of weird but other than that you know nothing very dry pine straw ground uh no evidence and uh kind of left it at that you know she was very nice and i said well you know you probably walked up on a family pot or they were just passing through or whatever uh so i just kind of left it at that and stopped hunting out there. And meanwhile, I'm having anxiety about this, you know, and it's really bothering me. Now, again, they did not threaten me. I'm threatening myself because of what I've been taught.

And this opened a huge rabbit hole about my education, about what I've been taught, about what I've been taught in life, where I come from, my origins, what I'm supposed to eat, medical, everything. This is where I woke up. And I started investigating and talking to people and, you know, listening to stories.

And I'm going, there are thousands of them. This is real. You know, this is absolutely real. So how I dealt with it is I'm not going in any state for us anymore alone. I don't want to go out and confront these things. And I know from my experience is listening and learning that they're not, most of them are pretty passive,

but some of them are aggressive and they will hurt you and fully capable of doing it. And I don't want to have to get in a fight with something like this, you know, because I'm probably on the losing end of it. And I don't care what you're carrier. I have no military training. I'm pretty good with a bow, but, you know, don't even enter my mind. You know, I was growing up pretty ethically. You know, my father, the way he taught me.

And so I was like, well, you know, these things are wild. And, yeah, I had my own idea on when I think they are. But so when I moved to Indiana, which was, 43 years after I moved to Florida. My life's parents passed away. They left some property to us, her. And she's like, well, it's time to move here. We've got to either move or, you know, get divorced or something.

And I was like, well, okay. So I moved up. I was running my business up there or down there. And so I moved here. So that was a big deal. But the year before I moved here, because I would come here hunting for quite a few years, it's better hunting for me anyway, colder and I'm more open.

Anyway, I'm getting out of my tree stand on this property. And there was some frost in the ground. And I see this big huge footprint. You know, I swear, when I saw this, my words were, are you effing kidding me? And I said it out loud. And I looked down. Now, it wasn't like the perfect footprint, but you could tell it was a footprint.

And I still have the picture. I just have to dig it out in my cloud. But I put my foot in it backwards. That's how much mess me up. I put it next to it. I took a picture and I just got out of there. And it was only one. And I go back and I go back.

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pharmaceutical, patrocinoed for GSK. Like, Oh yeah, you think so, huh? I'm like,

I just find a big old footprint right right near my stand. And he's like, well, we got some

big farmers around here, you know. I said, well, I don't know. I'm not even going to think about it. I'm just going to

let it slide. So that was that. But this is pretty much where I'm at now. I've been living here about three years. We don't have a lot of sightings around here per se. There has been some within, I don't know, 15 mile radius, but we live in a very rural area, spotty forest, ridge lines. And I know these things can travel and do whatever they do. But now, some of the state forest around, definitely there's been sightings out there. And I used to hunt out there, and I won't go out there alone anymore. I just don't want to be confronted with one of these. And now, you know, I'm good now, really, comfortable in this area, hunting my little wood lots. I mean, we got 30 acres. And I can hunt here or my buddies.

have some leases. And I don't really feel any threat. But I'll tell you, when I'm walking in the dark, I'm 65 years old, and I still get the eb-begebys if I can't see. And I seen something online the other day where these contact lenses where you can see in the dark, I'm like, man, I think I'd get me a pair of them.

Because, you know, it might come in. handy. But anyway, Jeremiah, that's, you know, that's, and I know it's not an exciting, exciting, and it's not scary because I've, some of the ones I've listened to are just absolutely petrifying. And I'm sure you want to know what it looks like and all that stuff. And I have my opinions. Are there any questions you have to me about this? I'm sure you do that. Absolutely, absolutely. It is, in my opinion, it's a very unique one. I don't think I've ever heard one where there's a potential of it being pregnant. That's a brand new one for me.

Before it gets away, I heard about those contact lenses too. And did you see, this is all like allegedly, but what they were experiencing when they're testing them? Oh, well, no, but you know that blue glass. There's a name for that blue glass that the military used to use. I guess they outlawed it. What is that glass? So I don't know the exact name, but it's pretty much what was happening when they were using that same type of deal over in Vietnam. They're starting to see stuff.

It's the same deal. Now, this is all allegedly, but it makes for an interesting. thing to think about for sure. Now, definitely want to talk about your Florida siting. It's just absolutely incredible. Were there any weird sounds or smells in that same time frame that you were down there that you noticed? Nope. No, but you got to think before that I would smell something in the swamp or whatever.

and you know there's dead stuff around and you know it would have went right over my head now if I smell the skunk because some people call them skunk apes but no I didn't we didn't smell anything there was no residual of it and you know I wish there was but and I you know Jim didn't see anything we didn't see it we know

we've seen right where they went across the road, but you just couldn't see anything. It's so dry. No imprints or anything. Absolutely. And I wouldn't climb these creatures, at least the ones I saw, they weren't super heavy and super big. You know, I say the male, I don't know that it was a male because I only saw his, he come out with his right shoulder facing me on an angle going down away from us. so he didn't even see us he didn't even look down the road

he just entered out on the road and started walking down his gate the way he was swinging them arms and you really couldn't see a separation between his head and his shoulders I don't know if that was hair

but it wasn't a person you know I've had people call me about this back then I think I actually did that I don't know what I'm supposed to say is that and I just told him, because he goes, you think it could have been somebody in a suit. And I said, anybody that wears a suit in a wildlife management area during gun season is an idiot.

I mean, this place sometimes had 300 hunters on it. Now, it's a big place, you know, 40, 50, 60,000 acres. I'm not sure the total, but it's around it. It's huge. And there's no houses out there. Plenty of food. Plenty of water. Plenty of mosquitoes.

So I don't know, man. It's an enigma to me, but as I've gotten older, I know what it was. Right. You know. You said that, so we'll just say the male and female. So the male was around seven feet tall. Can you remind me how tall the female seemed to be? She looked like she was two feet shorter.

Okay. But she was just stocky. You know, her chest and her belly. And whatever was on her belly was round. It wasn't, you know, food or stacks of wood or a bag. This was the same color as her. So whether it was an infant, I don't know. But when she wobbled off, she was holding that belly.

And I'm trying to think of how to describe how she ran. And the only thing I can think of is if you've done number two in your pants. Right, right. Yeah. Because I had children that have. Anyway, yeah, that's not the only thing I can think of. But she wobbled off like that. And, but you can see the reaction when she's seen us.

She went, oh, no. Oh, no, got to get whatever this is out of here, kind of, you know. Yeah. And we were there within three minutes. We were down there. Wow. So they were in there looking at us. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

May I, I'd say it was a right call not to go in there. That probably would have gotten really bad for you if there was a young one. being protected in some way. I agree. So carrying something on her stomach, was that thing, whatever was being cared? Was that covered with hair too?

It was the same color as her. Okay. So I would say yes. Okay. That's why I think it might have been you know, her being pregnant. I couldn't see any definition and, you know, head or arm going around or waist.

I couldn't see that. It just looked like one color. So, you know, I don't know what these things do if the babies ever. I know, I've heard of people saying that the babies crawl on, you know, they, so maybe so. I don't know. But she definitely, it was something to do with either being pregnant or had been pregnant, you know, I think. That's just as a. As a hunter and an observer, and bear in mind, I was quite a bit younger.

My eyesight was perfect. And, you know, I'm experienced in seeing things. So there's no way this was a bear. There's no way this was two people playing a gag on us. No way. I just completely, I completely disagree with, with that. And I thought about this for years, you know,

well, maybe. And I guess there is the maybe, but, you know, logically, I don't think so. I think this was, and look, I'm not the only one that have seen him out there. That's the other thing.

You know, I didn't meet this guy, but I read his report. And he watched one for a half hour in his tree stand. And there's other places out there. One of them was called Island Pond. That's a big island in this swamp.

And I think that's where he's seen his. But there's other people that seen him out there. I talked to a guy one day that said he saw a giant barefoot footprint out there one time. And this is, you know, after I had seen it, asking questions. And, you know, most people laugh. I ain't seen any of that. They're crazy. You know, all my friends, they've hunted their whole eyes.

I've been hunting, you know, 30 years I never seen. You know, that's nuts. And I'm like, all right. So. So this account that you read about this gentleman, was that on BFRO then? Yes. Okay. Yep.

Gotcha. And you can probably, whether it's a year after, it might even be the same year, 95. I mean, you're going back a long ways and, you know, things have turned digital now. So your report got put up there too, then you're saying. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Yep.

I'm going to have to see if I can check that out at a later time. Yeah. So we already know that you weren't able to see details of the face, but were you able to see like a shape of the head at all? Yeah. Yeah. And I've thought about this a long time. It didn't look like an ache, okay? It looked like a caveman.

That's what it looked like to me. And I told Jim that. He said, Jim, I look, didn't that look kind of Neanderthal? He's like, yeah, it kind of looked like cave people. So that's what it looked like to me. Now, of course, my depiction of a cave person is what I learned in the Boston Museum of Science walking through and look at the cave people. You know, they were small.

You know, I don't, it's not exactly the same. But let's just say Neanderthal. That's what it looked like to me. and you know I my views on what I think it is I'm just going to say it I think it's the missing link or you want to call it nephalum I think it's part of that too and you know you might have to take that out I don't know but that's just my look I'm not saying I'm right I'm just saying that's my gut feeling because you know we're not been told the whole story here about everything you know you know that. So somebody's hiding this. Now why? I mean, one's only guess, but these have been in the forest for a long time. Now, do they, is this an earthly thing? Is it extraterrestrial? Is it extra-dimensional? I don't know, man. Maybe. Wouldn't surprise me. But, you know, they definitely can materialize so they look real you know and maybe it's different ones i don't know

you know i know there's you know like the dogman and uh the Patterson Gilman one patty and so there may be different versions of it i don't you know that's just my feeling but these look like neanderthal people that's what they look like to me they didn't look like apes That's fascinating. Now, if I got close to them and seen, you know, their face, their teeth, their nose, everything, I might have had a different perspective on that. But my observation from the distance that I was at and my partners were that they look like cavemen. And they didn't look human. Now, the male, definitely his arms were way longer than ours were.

The way he strolled, he just had his arms went way out in front of him when he was just eased. But you could see his arms swinging real low by his knees. It just looked odd. And his color will look just like buckskin. The same color as the deer. Kind of a reddish, orangeish. Were the females' arms hanging low as well? Yes, because they were underneath her stomach.

Okay. So, yeah. But you could tell she had them underneath her stomach when she started. And when she came across that roach holding her stomach, because that was the weird part. I'm like, what she got? You know, we're thinking she had something like a pig or something. But it wasn't anything defined like that. It just looked like the same color as her.

It looked like she was pregnant. And Jim even said it. Dang gal. I'm like, yeah, it is. Pretty scary one. Right, right. So look, other people have talked to me about wild people living out in the woods and all this stuff and Indians, possibly, Native American people. It wasn't that.

Now, you know, we don't know that. It possibly could be wild people. I mean, who knows? You know, I don't know if this is, somebody knows about this, but, you know, that's not really being offered. So we just have to make our own decisions on what we believe based on what we've seen and what we feel. You know, and I always go by my gut feeling. And I'm, you know, it's not about me.

It's not about money. It's not about anything. It's just about what's true. I'm a truther. You know, I've taught that. My dad taught me that, you know. There's a, are you, are you okay if I bring up how this affected, or ask questions about how this affected you emotionally and mentally afterwards? Is that okay?

For sure, man. Okay. Because, dude, you know, you've done enough shows. You know that it's what it does to people. Some people, it traumatizes them so bad. And can you imagine the ones that have passed because of it? Right, right. I can see where somebody would just want to wash this down and, you know, I can see that.

So, but you got to talk to people about it. And there's always light in everything, Jeremiah. So look, it wasn't violent. It was an education. why I was chosen to see this? I don't know. Maybe I wasn't. Maybe it's just luck or maybe bad luck.

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but trying to express that to other people that are believers, but not knowers,

you know the difference. When you're a knower, you've seen something, and nobody can take

that from you. they can say some stuff, maybe hurt your feelings or, you know, but I don't second guess myself anymore. I'm not a stupid person. You know, I shouldn't say stupid ignorant. I learn things that I don't need to learn. Me working, I have my shop.

No one's here. I listen and educate myself every day on podcasts and truth channels and stuff. And some of you've got to learn. not as a decipher, you know, because it can be a little weird. But I've been doing it for years. I started back when podcasts weren't cool. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah. When they just started it. And, you know, I've done a few. But it helped me. But I learned a whole lot more, especially, you know, people that have gotten some crazy sightings. So there's a lot of diversity. in this. It's not just one thing. It's, it's, it's in, and people, you know, like, oh, you know, there's probably three or four hundred of them. I think there's thousands. Oh, yeah, it's definitely

thousands at least, yeah. Yep. And we've, we've never really been told how much land there is in this country and Canada and stuff in the land bridges and the mountainous. And you just can't go into these places. These things, they climb up vertical walls like nothing. So, you know, they've made a life out of hiding. And they're good at it. and you know kudos to them you know i think there should be protected nationally but we need to be protected seems like now that's for sure yeah yeah that's some pretty wild stuff um was there a a way then that you were able to overcome that anxiety that came about due to this Yeah, drinking a lot of beer.

Sure. That's just a joke. Gotcha. I'm a country boy, man. Okay. We do beers every now, man, but look. No, I just dealt with it. And I dealt with it through listening and learning about them.

And once I realized they're real, I said, okay, so I'm still going to be paranoid when I'm in the woods. meaning that I'm, you know, aware of things. What help me, Jeremiah, is knowing when I go in the woods, if I see stacked rocks, if I see bent over trees, if I see stumps sticking out of the ground upside down, if I see X's, if I see TPs, which I've seen before, I don't know where, but I've seen stuff like that. And you always think turkey hunter or whatever.

But those are the signs that these creatures leave and what they're saying, I don't know. I would interpret it as, you know, this is my area. You know, better watch out or don't come on here. So, yeah, it has helped me. But talking about it brings up a certain level of anxiety.

It's in the only way I can really describe it to people is, and you're going to find this amusing, I think. is when you first go out on stage, that first song, because you don't want to mess up. I'm like a perfectionist. Everything has got to be perfect for me. And I'm very hard on myself. And, of course, that's why I make Bose.

And, yeah, so that's, it's, you're on edge. And I've found in my life that when you're on edge like that, you run your life better. your alert, your senses, your gut feelings, your intuitions, everything becomes alive. You know, you listen to that. And that's my belief. So when I'm in the woods, I'm not just like, you know, I'm looking around, I'm smelling, I'm hearing, I'm listening to the animals. I'm looking at the ground.

I'm looking at the trees. Everything. You know, I look up in the trees. So, yeah. Now, call it paranoia or call it just being a great, you know, observing well. I don't know. But, yeah. But it has helped me, though.

That's good to hear. I don't think it's paranoia. I think it's you're aware of what's out there now and you're more prepared and observant, as you said, to just be prepared for something. after you had this situation in Florida, did anything out of the ordinary start to happen in your house or any other locations? Or is this not a thing where you've had to deal with things like that? Nope. Not that I can ever, ever imagine.

the only thing no no no you know I never not that I don't believe in stuff like that I just don't go looking for it you know I'm a pretty spiritual person

I'm not very religious but I'm very spiritual I believe in the creator and you know if I've done bad I try to apologize for my actions and I believe the creator is in our hearts, you know, and you have to apologize to yourself. So, you know, as far as evil or funky stuff, lights,

infrasound, no, I've never heard any of that or saw. Never seen a UFO that I can, well, I've seen some weird stuff, but nothing that I could say, wow, that was an orb, a UFO. or I did have one thing happened to me one time, but I think it was a meteor here in Indiana. I was in a tree stand. This is before the siding. No, no, no.

This is not before the siding. This is way after. I was sitting in my tree stand, and I went out early, about four in the morning. And I wanted to get there before, you know, the deer started to move through this area. And all of a sudden, this green light goes through the woods. it freaked me out.

And I couldn't see the actual light. It's just this light went through the woods and it was green, really fast. And that was it. So I said, wow, that was a meteor. I didn't hear it. See, that's the thing. I didn't hear, you know, or boom or anything like that. So I just saw that.

That's the only thing I've ever really seen. that made me think, whoa. Now, of course, I was in an earthquake out here one time. That's another, well, I guess it ain't story. I was in a blind on the ground. Not too far from the house. All of a sudden the ground starts feeling like jelly. It's moving.

And I'm looking down thinking something's trying to get out of the ground. Like, you know, Goonies, those weren't. worms that come out or something. And, oh, man, I could feel that gut feeling. You know that gut feeling when you're scared? Oh, yeah. That's what happened. And in my feet, I can see everything moving.

And I'm like, what is this? Because I've never been anything like it. So I didn't see anything. I went back to that house. Pops goes, do you feel that earthquake? It shook the whole house, roberber. I said, I was wondering what that was. because I thought it was giant worms under the ground.

You look at me and laughed. So, but, no, I don't think I've seen anything that's or heard anything that is related to that. That's great. I don't want to. Right. You know, I don't be freaked out. I'm good with what I know. Now, would I want to see one?

I would like to be friends with one and trust it. And, you know, like I hear some people have relationships with these things, you know, distant type. But do I want that to happen? No. I think I'm too old for it. I don't know. I'll be able to handle it. You know, so I think I'm saved it now.

Absolutely. Steve. Well, this has been just a really fascinating conversation. I do mean it is it's very unique in my opinion thinking over all the ones that I've heard over the years. I do want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you came to the show today to share. I just want to thank my parents and my father for teaching me things. My dad's 90 and he's old and he's failing. So it's going to come a time he's going to leave him.

us, but he did a good job, whether he thought he did, I don't know. But, you know, he always taught me things. And as you get older, things change, you know. Life becomes more important. Family becomes more important. I'm not a killer, and I've said this before to people. I love animals, and I hate killing. When I kill a deer, it brings, it's emotional for me.

And I like to hunt. I do, but I don't like to kill animals. So I guess what I'm saying is, is when you get older, you mellow out a little bit, and you're more receptive of time and what's about to happen and, you know, all that stuff. So I'm just happy I had the experiences that I've had, and I was given the chance to see something weird like that. And, you know, I'm blessed with the talents that I've been given that I've polished over my careers. And, you know, I'm very thankful. I don't have a lot.

I'm still working. But I love what I do. I love where I am. And I enjoy doing farming and just having a peaceful life. You know? I still hunt. It's not as important to me anymore, but I still enjoy it. But, you know, and I like to eat deer meat and all that stuff.

But I have a big respect for the environment and animals and the place for everybody and, you know, the trees. And I just want people to protect what we have. You know, and sometimes you have to stand up and yell at somebody about it because people do weird stuff. Thank you for coming on the show today. And I think a lot of people are going to learn some things from what you've shared from what happened down in Florida. And definitely, you know, keep in touch if anything else happens to you while you are out hunting in Indiana as well, Stephen. I will. And it's been my pleasure.

And I feel like you and I know each other just because I've been listening to. your voice for a long time. And you have a very soothing voice. It's not aggressive. And I can see where people open up to you. Kind of like a counselor, you know, a Bigfoot counselor. There you go. Thank you for the kind words, man.

It has been a fun time. Yep, enjoyed it. Jeremiah, you take care of yourself, brother. You as well, Stephen. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot. Society podcast. Stephen's story is one of the rare encounters that lingers, not just because of what he saw in the palmettoes, but because of how close it came to being something much more. And huge thanks to Stephen for opening up about his years in the Florida Swamps and for reminding

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