Bigfoot Society - The Cobble Mountain Critter! | Massachusetts

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

What happens when two lifelong outdoorsmen follow a braided Adirondack stream to a beaver dam—hook a bass—and the forest erupts? In this high-intensity episode, Tim and Eric Vogel revisit a harrowing 2013 encounter: two trees shaking like snow globes, a nonstop roar that thumped their chests, and the chilling realization they’d crashed a Sasquatch fishing operation. We also dive into a class-A moment at Balance Rock in Savoy State Forest in Massachusetts—an eight-to-nine-foot figure, a 17.5-inch track, and a warning roar that followed the team back in—plus a daytime “white Bigfoot” sighting along Cobble Mountain Reservoir, and a remote Connecticut ridge where a siren-like scream lit up the night before a rock crashed through the canopy. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when Bigfoot doesn’t want you there…this one’s for you.Resources: https://www.facebook.com/thevogelbrothersCobble Mountain Critter Project on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559204812849Cobble Mountain Critter Festival on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Cobble-Mountain-Critter-Festival-61563987231526/STM documentary on Savoy State Forest - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoUFW4Crkko🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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And each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to the Vogel brothers today. We've got Tim and Eric here.

I'm going to do just a little intro for them. Here they're kind enough to provide some info. So, you know, the Vogel brothers have been researching Bigfoot encounters experiences and reports since 2015. They've done investigations and expeditions for things like the BFRO and Squatchititz. They currently run the Cobble Mountain Critter Project, and they also provide the Let's Talk Bigfoot Talk presentations as a fundraiser for youth outdoor education, which is really cool. But welcome to the show, guys. How's it going today?

Hey, nice what happens. I'm doing well. Doing well. I'm glad to be here. Beautiful day. Awesome. Awesome. And just for the listeners' sake, do you mind interested?

introducing yourselves separately so they can get to know your voices before we start chatting. Yeah, I'm Tim. I'm Eric. All right. We're the vulnerable

brothers. You know, we got into this, I don't know, we've been out in the outdoors all of our life. So that's, you know, that's what kept us involved.

So part of our thing is is hanging, is being in the woods and we grew up that way. So that just kept us, involved and that's a little bit above i love it and guys what was it that first got you into the bigfoot subject out there in massachusetts well we were teenagers and was back in the 70s 76 actually and we went to see the movie saw us watch the bigfoot and it was in agam

it was over in the next town away from us. And it was, it was in December, or in November it was. The November, December, it was in the middle of the winter. Yeah, you're shoveling or snow. Yes. Anyways, this thing here was out in

Aguam at the Quinn Cinemals. And we hiked, if you know, in the area, we walked in Colorado Lake. It was from west side to Aguil. And it was Sasquatch, the legend of Bigfoot. And it was back in 76, and that's how we

got introduced to it. You know, it was something new to us. We were in the Boy Scouts like Eric was saying. We grew up in the woods and this thing was new to us. So it was kind of weird. It was different. And, you know, you grow up thinking one way and you heard all the animals and you heard about them all. And all of a sudden they throw this thing out there and say, what, you know, come see this. And, you know, it was big foot. What the heck is a big foot, you know? So we did. We went over and checked it out. And that was kind of how we got into it. Yeah. There was always a West Coast thing.

It was never here. Yeah. So that was absolutely wild to us. It turned into a, you know, a bigger deal than just going to the movies. That ended up being, you know, a few weeks later, there was tracks in our backyard and throughout the town. And West Springfield and into Aguam up the Westfield River, railroad tracks and whatnot. And it, the tracks themselves went for probably a few miles, you know, crossing. the river on ice up the railroad tracks into our backyard, which was an apple orchard

and a book, goes back to the Westfield River near Mittnake Park. And we could go as far as the park. Or is the river. As far as the river. Yeah. We were just young. And once dad said that was it, that was it. Yeah.

So you're just following the tracks. But the tracks were out there. And that's what kept us interest. And then the media got involved and the police got involved. And it became a whole to do because all of a sudden, you know, we've got these ginormous tracks in our yard. And it became a news media show. It's interesting. You can actually look it up.

Yeah, it's in one of, you know, the 1976 Aguam Bigfoot. Yeah. It's out there. And it's out there. It's interesting because you guys just came up just a few days ago on the show. There is an individual that had a siting in 2008 in Agawam, which is kind of the same area, right? and they brought up you, which that situation you just referred to, which I believe was in Robinson State Park, correct? I think I found the newspaper for that.

Correct. Yeah, it was almost, that's it. We're on the opposite side of the river of Robinson State Park. Right on the other side of the dam. So it literally came up to railroad tracks, walked through our backyard. And then it went down the river and back across into Robinson State Park. So, yeah, that, that, that, guys got that's three right yeah that's really interesting how how uh what were the size of these

tracks do you remember geez i want to say 20 inches yeah somewhere between i think that's that 17 to 20 inches and it was it was a lot of snow it's deep snow too yeah it had just snow so the snow was soft and it was deep yeah this guy had to work out i mean it was a if you're a snowsher and you did the walk that he did it was a heck of a hike it was a heck of a That was incredible. Absolutely. It ended up turning to be a hoax. It turned out to be one of the local.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what you'll read. One of the locals ended up seeing the same movie that we did, and he wanted to freak out the kids in the neighborhood, so he cut himself out some plywood shoes, and off he went. And, of course, this was a new phenomena here. And the people just went for it, and literally the...

Once he got out of hand, he didn't know what to do, so he didn't say anything. think. Yeah, he was 16. It was scared, you know, when he did it. Made sense. Anyways, that was, that was the... That's all we got started.

But it was cool because they were all camped out in our backyard. They had, you know, at that time, Bigfoot investigators in our backyard camped out looking for Bigfoot. So, you know, we never thought it would go to this. There was more sitting here talking to you about it, but, you know, it's clear where it is, you know. Yeah, it was pretty wild for an experience and, you know, a teenager, it really sparks the imagination, you know?

Yeah. Especially when you've been out in the woods, you know, for years. And this thing doesn't exist in New England. At least you don't think it does. And then 2013 rolls around. Yeah, that's when really, you know, that's when things really took off. It really sparked our interest was 2013. Yeah, we had a business company to Coa Mountain Outdoors,

and we had that for nearly 20 years, and we did it as a good. guiding business and we were certified New York State guides. We were guiding and we were certified and everything. We used to do professional development, first aid certifications, you name it, rock climbing, blah, blah, blah. We did all. And we spent a lot of time in New York paddling and portaging up in the St. Regis Wilderness and Cranberry. Yeah, all up through there. And it was a great area. And so in 2013, Eric and I decided we were, you know, we were on our trips and, you know, one of our weeks there. And we had a scout group or something.

We were, you know, touring up to there. And we decided we were going to go on vacation in that same area. And we did. So we went out in September, late September. Yeah, the schools were in there. All those schools went back. Everybody was off a major school. schools were back in session.

And it was empty. We knew it was going to be. The Adirondics would be empty. Everybody would be gone back at work. So you'd have, it would be nice, quiet, and calm. You know, everything would start to come back to nature's normal, I would say. And we decided that's when we were going. So we packed up and off we went.

We got out to Long Lake and we parked the car, took all the stuff and took off. and we started paddling. We got to the far end of Long Pond, and there was a campsite off to the left. And we decided, well, that's, you know, that was big enough for us. Everything else was kind of taken at the time. Yeah, we were headed to another pond,

but it was in the middle, so we stayed there. Yeah, it was off to the left. It was a nice spot for us. So we set up camp and kind of straightened it up because at first it was a little trashed. It was trashed. You know, with trees and limbs. So we kind of moved all of that out of the way.

We never thought anything of it. Eric and I worked at Ridge Runners on the Appalachian Trail years ago. And when we used to brush in trails, you'd throw a bunch of debris and dead sticks and logs and stuff in it to camouflage the trail or encourage people to stay out. That's exactly what this campsite look like. It was tragic. Yeah. With spruce tops and limbs and stuff like that, it was loaded with it. And it was like in the Adirondacks, that is very highly unusual.

They're very well-kept sites. They're marked. They're monitored. There's rangers out there. They don't play out there. They'll throw you out if you got too many people in a group. So it was one of those sites where it was like, what the heck is this? But it was one of those sites we wanted to stay at.

So we put the effort in to clean it up. But anyways, that's where we, that's where we were. And so we were, after we made the site, We were going to go fishing, and we were going to go catch dinner, actually. At this point, it was a dinner, and we were looking for dinner. So we get out there, and we don't take anything with us. I don't have a cell phone. Eric doesn't have a cell phone.

We didn't have cell phone. Yeah. If anything, we would have had a digital camera, you know, like, you know, strollways, you know. Yeah, we didn't have nothing with us. Half the time it didn't work anyway. And besides that, we were going out for dinner. So we took a fly box with some movie buggers and a five-way fly rod and off we went. And it ended up being like a fishing story.

It was catching fishing. If you were a fisherman, it was one of the best. Oh, he was catching fish. One of the best days of fishing I ever had. Every cast was a bass or every third cast was a bass. And they were almost five pounds on a fly rod. I felt like Miss Daisy driving the condition. I just told him to keep paddled.

Yeah. Yeah, I just saw him working to me. I said, just keep paddled it. I'll catch him. And that's all I did all afternoon. So we saw this stream off to the right. And he says, hey, let's go down downstream. And I said, all right.

So we started going down into the stream. It gets a little crowded. Yeah, it got crowded all right. It's like a single track. No, when you're in the front and there is no hope of seeing the outside of this, the other end. spin around. I spun it around and I said, you go in it. So, so he wasn't that bad. It was sad. Let me tell it. It was just braided. It was a braided street. We went into it.

It was, it was tough to navigate because you really couldn't tell which way to go. It was braided. So there was a lot of options that we didn't know where we were going to end up because we'd never been down there. Well, we just kept following the current and lo and behold, we ended up at a beaver dam. And we're going right to the beaver dam. And then I, I, I start fishing there at the beaver dam. Yeah, that was the first and last time I let him fish. Yeah. So I cast over the beaver dam.

I'm sitting in a canoe. I'm in the back and I've been working all this way. And I get to the beaver dam. I start fishing and I cast over the beaver dam. And the beaver dam is about four feet high. And I'm head level with the top of the beaver dam at the lower portion of it. And anyway, I catch a fish in this small. all we caught were smallmouthed and they're three to five pounds.

If you ever catch smallmouth, they just bounce out of the water and dance. They're a lot of fun. So anyways, we were, you know, we were catching the fish and this thing bounces out of water and starts tail dancing. And the next thing you know, all hell broke with the slain and some... Actually, the one tree started shaking. And it was just all of a sudden, you know, we're just sitting in a canoe fishing. And it was like, hey, yeah, I got one. And all of a sudden, roo-lo-blum.

Well, this tree is starting to shake like it's in a snow globe. And then moments later, a second tree starts shaking. It's like, what the heck? So we got two trees shaking like they're in a snow globe. And then the roaring starts and growling and now we have to go back through this web of tree limbs, you know. So we got that. We're sitting there like, what is this? And, you know, we're what the heck?

You know, so I'm still reeling. a fish and all this lorine is going on and we're like what is going on with that. We don't know what it is. We can't see it but the two trees are shaken literally like there is no New York at a, you know, New York

at all. You can't see 10 feet in. Yeah, it should the artorial forest. It's dark. It's dark. I can't see in there. And like I said, this is dinner so we're going in there. It's dark. And it's dark inside at 4 o'clock. Outside, it's still light So it's not bad.

But let me tell you, when that thing started yelling or screaming or roaring, whatever you want to call it. It was a mix of everything. Stuff starts coming out of the trees. Whether whatever's out there is throwing it or it's breaking limbs and there's... You couldn't even put something together to an animal in your mind to make that noise. And that really kind of freaked you out because you couldn't figure out what it was. Yeah, nothing in the memory bank that was when it was, you know. So it was a freaky experience, and we're just sitting there.

We're in the middle of nowhere, and all of a sudden these trees are shaking and it's going off. And you could feel it. You could feel the yell. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was like being at a Ted Nugent content. Yeah, you could feel the radio on for you. It was crazy. Yeah, so, and actually, that's what made us start to move back, because I actually...

That's when we started getting out of it. Well, I actually wanted to go further, but the Beaver Dam was in front of me. And it's like, no way, no way, we're out, we're out. So, if you could picture the cartoon at this point, it breaks in half. I'm going one way, he's going the other. And that was kind of where we were at because I wanted to see it. And he's like, nope, we're done. And it was that scary, actually, because you could feel it in your chest.

You could feel, actually, your whole body. When that thing roared, with the tone of it, as it went high, the vibration in your body got. We still had a paddle out of the street. to get away from whatever this thing was. We're going to find our way through. And it wasn't that far away from the side of the, it had to be 30 yards in maybe. So as it got louder,

we backed out because we actually thought, whatever this thing is, it never stopped shaking the trees and it never stopped growling and yelling and making the noise that it did. It never, ever stopped. And we were noticing that. We actually say, hey, dude,

that thing just hasn't even stopped. And it went on. This now has gone on for, by the time we actually backed out and got into the existing lake that we were in was maybe 10 minutes, maybe 15. And this thing never ever stopped shaking or the sound never ever stopped. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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And we just kind of looked around like what just happened. And we're trying to, you know, hey, what was that? Was that a bear? Was it a mountain lion? Were they fighting or something? What's going on? You know, you start paddling away, and then you're in a canoe, 16 feet long. And all I said was, you know, we're on the same side as this.

Yep. That's where our campsite was on the same side as all of this took place, maybe 200 yards away. Yeah, so there's no run into your car. There's no, you know, going to be too far away for that. No Dunkin' Donuts, no nothing. And it was paddle back to your scary little campsite that you had to clean all that debris out of. And you wonder why. And now all of a sudden this.

So, yeah, I'd say it was a long night that night. Yeah, we had a fire all that long. Yeah, yeah. We had a deer come through because we didn't really, we heard a deer come through. It was crazy. And then we got out of there that morning, you know, probably just the sun came up. We could paddle. So it was probably 5 o'clock, 5.30 in the morning.

and we're heading out. Now you've got to remember. We're guides. We were guides up here for 10 or 50 years. We know this place very well, and this is never, ever, ever, ever, ever happened, ever. And then this is right. Exactly. Exactly.

It never happened. Yeah. But, you know, then years later, during a couple years go by, we started talking to people. We talking to different people that. Facebook. Because we didn't have Facebook. at the time. And we finally got into Facebook or got a phone or got a computer that we could get into Facebook. We ran into other groups that were out there. And people with the same experience,

and listened to their story. And it was like, hey, you know, that happened us. We had this happen. Yeah. So we went back out there the following year or a year after, and we went out and we checked. I think it was the very next year. We went out there. And we went right back to where we were. And we got in there. We measured the trees. The trees were about nine inches in diameter. Ten inches, give or take, eight to ten inches. And almost ten feet apart.

Yeah. And these things were shaken like they were in a snowboard. Just like surreal. It was crazy. Very, very weird. And you say, I mean, that's. And they were the only two trees in the whole forest. And, you know, we've been asked many times, was it a bear?

Was it this? Well, the bear, if it was, it never, ever, ever stopped making. a crazy loud screen noise. And if it were to hit the ground, you would have thought you would have heard a bear make a huffing sound or some type of noise. But this year, it just didn't do that. The noise that never stopped at this point now,

you know, we had no clue, but not Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, that's what we're doing. And now we believe there was multiple. It's a possibility. Multiple big foot there. And between the roaring, one got a breath and the other one is,

roaring so you didn't really notice it. And that may have been how, that's why we always took it as continual roaring when they might have had multiples and they're doing their thing and yelling and screaming and roaring just to scare us. And it didn't sound like it stopped. It was all different octaves and different tones. So it was, you know, there was no way to decipher who did that or this. You know, it was just a cacophony of roaring and screaming.

It's bizarre. And we turned around and that, we came to a conclusion later on that they were fishing. There could have been multiple. So we figured three at least. And they were fishing. They were pushing. Their hands are like big first basements Mitch.

You know, these things are enormous. Giant match, yeah. So when you got four of those things pushing through the stream into a beaver dam, now mind you, this is a small, yeah, it's just a little, a small creek. coming into a, and it hits a beaver dam that's kind of apex in shape. So it's got a curve to it. And the curve is only, you know, it's probably only 30 feet wide, 40 feet wide. This whole dam, this whole thing that's holding back.

And the stream coming in is only four or five feet wide. And it might be knee deep, if that. So if you got two or three big foot and they're walking with their paws and their fingers or, you know, whatever in their midst. And as big as they are, it's like a, a wall moving whatever's in front of them down into that holding pin, what is we're calling it at a beaver dam. And that's where they're pushing all this fish.

And they were fine with us fishing all the way up until that point where I pulled the fish out. And that's when one of them dudes just had it. And they said, no, you're out. And they went off. And they said, no, this is our fishing hole. Get out. And that's exactly what they told us.

And we left it. Wow. that is such a wild. I mean, I can see how that would that would push you into where you guys are today. That is just crazy. And there was no easy way to get out of there

once you describe, you know, how big this dream actually was. I mean, you're not getting out of there quick for sure. No. Oh, no. Not at all. So that's what we think, you know. And now, like I said, we're Monday morning quarterback.

But in 2013, we were just kind of cutting our teeth on this Bigfoot thing, really. You know, we think we had an experience. We started hanging out with Squatchez, Massachusetts was a group at the time. We're local. We got involved with those guys. We got involved with the BFRO. And we did that for, oh, geez, almost, we've 13, 15 years now we've been doing it. And now we're doing our own thing.

We've got the Vogel brothers, and we do the Cobble Malt Critter Prize. project. And, but, you know, throughout our investigations, gosh, we, we've had, you know, Eric had a, I've had a class A sighting. Sure. We've had 2016, 2018, we had a sighting. We've had a sighting through a flare and smell and New Year's encounters. With, with a few people at the same time. So really, that's the best part of when we talk about our experiences. It's always been with a group of people. most of the time. Yeah, we were leading expeditions or we had groups of people with us.

There's multiple witnesses that can verify. It's not just guys coming up with a story. There's multiple. And not just Bigfoot. Yeah, orbs and other things. Sure. So it's kind of nutty. Can you share one of those experiences where you were able to have a Class A siting of one?

Yeah, I'm going to fill my coffee and then everything about his. All right. Go ahead. Okay. Well, all right. It started on a Friday night. We were up here up at the camp. We had an expedition going on.

There were about 12 people, maybe 14. Yes, Western mess. And we pulled in, and we're all getting out of the cars. And all of a sudden, these kids come running out of the woods and adults. And they're saying someone's throwing rocks and they're yelling at us. And we're like, what? Tim's the Ranger here at the camp. And he says, there's nobody here.

And the teachers turned around and says, somebody is yelling and somebody is throwing rocks. So they're running out. We go in, but we couldn't find anything. We couldn't find anybody. Couldn't find any trash. Couldn't find anything. So they all, the kids and the teachers took off because they didn't want to stay.

So we all take off and we're sitting around the fire. We're talking, getting ready, having dinner. And then we're going to go out into the, the camp and we're broken into groups. And everybody, each group had had a fleer. And I had a father and son with me go out into the field. And we're standing next to a tree. It's about one, two o'clock in the morning.

And his son's looking at a mouse running around. And the gentleman, I'm standing beside, we're just kind of talking to each other real low. And I looked across the field and I see this. this orangeish, no, a yellow orangers ball about the size of a beach ball. And it's about 30 feet in the air from where I'm looking at. It's a good over 100 yards away. But it's one in the morning and it's pitch black. And I looked at the gentleman beside me and he just, he looked at me, he looked back at the glowing ball.

And we watched it for a good 10 seconds and it just went up in the air and gone. we were like what just happened but we didn't say anything we just kind of looked at each other and never experienced you know nothing is supposed to be over there I mean he's been arranging here for almost about 15 years

I know what the Lord was yeah you know and you see you never heard of one so over that night there wasn't any it's just an open lot there's not supposed to be anything there so the following day we all get together it's been raining now for about four days.

So we all get together where Tim stayed here. He was teaching a fishing class for the state. So we turned around and we took off and we went over to Savoy. We went to one spot and it was nobody wanted to get out and it was just raining too, too hard. So we went, we drove to another spot deeper into Savoy. It stopped. It slowed down enough to where most everybody, went. There were a few cars that, there are few people that didn't get out, but they said, we'll

wait for you here. We said, okay. So we walked in and we get in, we're hiking into this place called Balance Rock in Savoy. And there's always two gentlemen that come with the group that like to drop back and they like to watch the group to see if the group is being watched. Right. They kind of check that makes sense to you. And we had a father and son team go up in front of us. So we're kind of, we, I'm in with the group of about nine or ten people. We're walking up. We get up the balance rock.

We're standing there. Everybody's listening. And we asked if anybody wanted to make a big foot call. And this little, this young boy says, yeah, I will. So he gives out a big foot call. But I said to myself, I'm saying, wow, that thing, it was so soft and so quiet. I don't think they heard anything. while the two guys that

behind us come running up and they said, hey, we've got whistles back here. And at the same time, the gentleman and the guy in the sun up in the front sent the son back and see, he says, hey, we got some kind of knocking going on up here in the front. And we're like, what?

So we just kind of walked in and fanned out in a 45. So we walked in and I stood on this little rock. It had moss all around it, but the rock was showing. So I was standing. on it. It was a higher elevation.

Not high enough, but it was high. So I'm standing there, and there were a dozen people in the woods all looking. And I have an orange rain jacket, so I really stuck out. And I'm looking around, I don't see anything, and it's really quiet.

So I kind of bent myself down at my knees so I can look lower to see if I could see leg movement or deer walking by or something. And And I kind of noticed this big black thing that wasn't there a second ago. So I kind of stood up and went, I leaned to the left. This thing leaned to the left.

And I went, what was that? And when I stood back up, it stood up and turned. And I went, what? I said, oh, it's there. And I pointed and I started running right at it. And there was a gentleman beside me with a GoPro. and there was another gentleman on the other side of him that saw the lower half at the same time I saw the upper half

moving and he ran into the same frame of the GoPro going together, pointing in the same direction as I was. He saw the bottom, I saw the top. And there was a tree laying down. And the guy in the middle was standing right in front of a tree where this big foot was standing. Yeah, one of the odds? unbelievable. So what you see is two people running pointing at a tree. Yeah, that's what you see, but it was there.

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You just got to. I says, you won't believe what happened. So I told them the whole story. We drive back up. Yeah. We go in. We get it. We get up to the balance rock and we go in and we're going through the whole story again.

Show them, showed them the rock where I was. We brought out the range finder and a tape measure. I had them walk to the tree where I saw it. We did. I pulled out the rangefinder. It was 40 yards from me. And then I turned around. And I said, Tim, start raising your hand.

So he raised his hand. I said, no, got to go up. He got a, he got his hat. And then he went up. And then he had to get a stick and go up with the hat. And it stopped about eight and a half, nine feet. And it was like I was looking at a sheet of plywood. When I saw it, it had to be almost four feet wide.

And I only saw a part of it when it moved. And I, and there was nothing there when that day that it happened. We went up there and I'm going. going through the whole scenario, after we measured it, I was on one side of the tree, he was on the other, and he comes walking down the tree,

and he goes, wow, look at this. And there was a track, beautiful footprint track. 17.5 inches? Yeah, 17.5, 8.5 inches wide at the top. And the heel was four inches deep,

and it was five and a half, five, five and a half inches wide. It was big track. and seven feet away we found the ball of the second track of the other foot and the reason why it was just the ball

was because there was a root and the toes caught the root and it peeled the bark off the roof but you can't it just doesn't work it's an all rodid room so you get the ball but when you put the ball when you put the ball of one foot

with the footprint they're at the same depth so you know it was the same creature. But the two gentlemen that were on the other side of that path never saw it coming at them. And they were right there. The two gentlemen that were behind us, they came down the same path that this thing was headed and they never saw it. Yeah. So what does that tell you? You know, I mean, where does it go? Why did 12 people miss it? How did 12 people miss it? And why did we only get two tracks out of it? You know, nothing, nothing moved. He said, the breeze never moved. There were no snapping, there was, there was nothing.

It was dead quiet. Yeah. But yet there's the track. There's a half a second track and no one's, and no one else saw this thing. I just, it's crazy. So I went after he found it, we got our friend of ours to come back. He was going, he was on his way to a ballgame. He turned around and he came back to.

We walked out to the end of the dirt road. Yes, he met him at the dirt road. Covered the trekkits so they wouldn't be. hit by animals or walked in. Yeah, we met him out on the dirt road. We got in his truck and we drove in. Yeah. Before we drove in, we had a roar. Yes, we were driving. Yeah, we were driving in. I was in the front. Tim was behind me on the passenger side. Yeah. And there was a roar that came up off of that, that top of the mountain that sounded just like the roar that we heard in New York. And the depth in the same, almost the same one. It was incredibly close.

together. And it must have been a warning setting out, here they come again. You know, they're coming back in. So when we went in there, the other guy was he was standing there, he was looking at it. He goes, no, he says, I can't believe we didn't see that. And there it was. So we casted both tracks. So we

have two casts. And like he said, you know, one is, it lacks toe prints, but it's got heel definition. It's got the depth. And it goes in real deep. So it shows you where the impact was, the initial fighter flight. Well, there's an in-way drive.

Lands, boom, gives you a full-foot track. And then the second one is just the ball of the foot. And like he said, the reason why we cast it is because it's the same depth as the heel strike from the track before. So it shows you something the same way made. Normally here in New England, it's hard to get one track. Never mind, too. Yeah. Why?

I don't know. But that's definitely a cool conversation to have as well. Wow. this is guys I've so my and that's right as Savoy stayed for it yeah I'm in Savoy right here and man yeah I used to do a lot of outdoor stuff with my father growing up and I like I've been to that balancing rock area I know because I grew up in Northfield and we would take Route 2 over and I can't explain to people how wild the northwest corner of Massachusetts is it is absolutely crazy I'm just blown away I mean I can totally see that you would have that experience in Savoy. Isn't that the same area where Jonathan Wilk had his stuff too? Yes. Yes. Same state for us. Yeah. Different area. Same state. Matter of fact, he is the gentleman that I was referring to. Okay. He was a gentleman day. We had him tell his own story, but yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. It's an incredible story. People can watch that on.

Small Town Monsters has a really good episode. I'll put the link in the show notes. with him. But oh my goodness, that's awesome. I've heard so many things from southwest Massachusetts, but not the northwest corner. And man, I mean, you know, just to make sure that I get it in, but something I ask in Massachusetts episodes, just in case, is there's got to be someone out there someday who can, who has experienced something in Franklin County. I don't know if you're familiar with that area. It's further east and you've got like Greenfield and Northfield and Gill and Warwick and all that good stuff. Have you guys ever heard anything from out in that area?

I have read stories from out in that area, yes. There's not too many. The one I'm familiar with, you're talking about a road crossing on Route 2, like on the Mohawk Trail. Yeah. No, that's the one we're talking about, Franklin County. There's not too, to be honest, it's just a weird place that doesn't get that much reports. I haven't had that many reports.

Yeah, and we tried. We've gone in there and tried to pull out, you know, get people to talk, open up to us. All the other counties have a heavy reporting, but the other ones, like we've just had, in Beckett, Blandford, Russell, and in the hill towns at Western Mass, in the hills towns, we've got almost a dozen reports between wood knocking and woops, vocalizations. And one person said he's heard it, chatter kind of thing. but I don't I you know I that's what he's saying so he's we've had chatter we've had whoops and numerous wood knocking reports this year alone just in our local area and we get that through the Cobble mountain and really fall hasn't even come yet that's when that's when that's when

that's when most of the June next over November starts really hard harvest season you know yeah and when we say that you know a lot of people think oh you know corn and the far and farmers. Now, right now the white oaks are dropping, and the oak forest, if you look at the oak forest at the 30,000 foot level, it's huge. So it's in the metric tons of oaks that are falling, that there's, it's feeding everything from the moles, voles, so the turkeys to the deer to bigfoot, everything in between. That's the harvest I'm talking about. And we have plenty. And right now the white oaks are dropping or they dropped in was it the the more in the summer and the red oaks will be dropping a little bit later and literally when when you walk around here on this property

it sounds like you need a hard hat because the oaks will fall and it's like you know like you know raining rocks oh my goodness so there's plenty of food there's plenty of food i i just think the our area in, let's say the northeast, is a quilted thing of vegetation. If you look at the big view, and there's fresh logging, which gives you certain foods. There's old growth, which gives you certain comforts, and there's other things that gives you, you know, the farmland and the agriculture and the quiet. And, you know, this is a network of geographic stuff that makes New England a great area. And for us, Western Mass has a bunch of that right here.

Oh, yeah. I think it doesn't get enough credit, all the stuff going on. Everywhere from the Coabin to down in Mount Washington in the corner of Mass. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on. But, you know, a pattern that I keep getting in reports when I talk to people for the podcast is that over the years, there's a lot of people that have seen what they describe as like a white bigfoot. kind of north of Springfield, Quabin area, but it's really interesting. Have you guys run into that?

No. I've heard that stories. I've heard those stories too. I haven't seen it myself, but yeah, I've heard that story. Yeah, well, I just listened on your latest podcast. It was from, he's a musician. Yeah. Anyway, he did a thing right there in Quabin, and it was the White Bigfoot and Quabin that you guys did a show on. It was great. We had heard investigating through the BFO in Squatchitucent, and other people talking, that they had seen. There's multiple reports, let's put it down. We have a white, big foot in that area. And then in 23, in 2023, my wife and I, we live right here on the Cobble Mountain Reservoir, and we have a 1,300-acre camp that had butts this property. And we were out, we call it a Squatch ride. We go driving in a long-story show. We go look up her big. foot. So it's a squash ride. So we get our Dunkins and we're off with our coffee and driving along, and we come down Wildcat Road into the clubbing reservoir, and we look across the reservoir,

and my wife happens to see this big white thing come walking out of the woods right down to the lake, and at that point she gets my attention, and I'm looking over at it, because she thought it might have been a sign that blew around or something. And she said, look at that, look at that. And so we stopped, and now we're looking across the lake. been a half mile through course of a mile, which I'm, I live right above a lake, and I'm looking across the lake through my picture window right now, and I can see the shoreline a half mile away. So this thing wasn't that far away, but we, let's put it this way. When this thing walked down, it walked down, it looked like it bent down and got a drink of water for a few

minutes. It stood back up and walked back into the woods and then disappeared into the woods. what we never got was a profile shot. What I mean by that is when a deer or a moose or a beer, because that's what people say, oh, you saw a bear on your moose. Okay, great, that's what we saw. But this moose came down 60 feet of shoreline to the water. It drank and then walked backwards without ever turning around.

If that moose or bear or something walked down to the water, it would turn around to walk back to the woods. It never did that. And the profile we were looking at was this tall cylindrical white object that looked like it just went up and down to the water, got a drink potentially, and literally just walked back to the woods. We didn't ever get that side profile shot where you would normally get of an animal on four legs, that big side body shot. We never got that. So that leads me to believe we saw white big foot right there in Cobble Mountain. So, you know, hence the name Cobble Mountain Critter Project.

We've had numerous accounts right here in my backyard, Burnett. That's incredible. And I know that area has come up on the show before with Ernie. I was able to talk to. Oh, Irmy, Gavaro. Oh, yeah. It's a wild area, dude. And so you started a festival in that area, too, correct?

Correct, yes. And I had Ernie as one of the speakers. We had Dave McCull. Gene Tewspere. I had a bunch of people here speaking. And Ernie Davaro told his story on Drake Mountain and what an incredible encounter he had. And so, you know, he's of the mind

and he's got a lot of us thinking more on communication levels now. I've been hearing numerous reports. I've heard a number of reports where people have discussed hearing chatter lately. And that's kind of a new thing. around here lately, at least in the western mass area, chatter. We don't hear that often, and you don't hear reports of it. But, you know, it's starting like, like we've been around long enough to where people

drive around and are seeing the local gas station or the store, hey, it's the Bigfoot guys, you know, that's kind of the report we've got in town now. And we literally have these little wooden mailboxes we made and put up in like the Beckett country store. and it becomes the, you know, the mailing station or the reporting station for Western Mass. And through these little, you know, we go up there and have coffee and cryptids at the grinder shop. There might be two people that walk in. There might be nobody walk in.

We don't care. But we're there to talk about Bigfoot locally. And so we're starting to open some doors. People are starting to reach out. And like I said, we literally have a dozen reports now that we probably wouldn't have gotten from people. Otherwise, you know, between the library shows that we do, the talks that we give, you know, whether it's a conference or a festival or next week I'm having down the Pennsylvania talk. They'll talk to you. Yeah, the more they know you, the more they can hear you, they'll open up and you start to hear this stuff.

With the Cobble Mountain Critter, that's kind of when we started this, we do the stories. And when we do the library portions and we make money on this, we only get a couple hundred bucks. So if you're a library listening and you want us to come out, we'll only a couple hundred bucks to do us for you know, you get us for two hours. We come with our own cast. We have a half a dozen casts that we cast that a dozen people saw. These are others. Yeah, these are authentic tasks. These are mold.

Yeah. So anyways, we turned our business into more of a fundraising effort. So when we go off and we do these talks, that money goes right into where we're sending kids to camp. We were involved with the town, the town police. is making a badge for us. That's going to be the tech. Russell Town, Montgomery, Russell, Police, and we're going to use them as fundraiser patches.

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And so these patches will help pay for that. These library talks help pay for that kind of stuff. That's what we're doing with our Cobble Mountain Critter project. So we investigate Bigfoot stuff as the Vogel Brothers. We do business as the Cobble Mountain Pritter Project and the kids benefit. That's fantastic. My goodness, do you think a lot of people are having. sightings and interactions in this Cobble Mountain area and they're just not talking about it?

Oh, absolutely. They didn't know it's out about it. We actually did. There's a local brewery called Skyline Brewery. They've been making a Cobble Mountain Critter beer for years now. And so when we had started the business, we didn't really think of working. There was no one, there was no thought behind that. So here we are.

We started a business and all of a sudden we realized he's got a beer and we start talking to each other. So we actually go there. When they opened their IPA and they have that room for that month, they had us come in and do a talk, I believe it was in March. And so we talked about the Cobble Mountain Critter, and they broke out the new Cobble Mountain Critter beer. And it was a big to do and it was a lot of fun. And there was a lot of stories on that. A lot of people came out and said, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah, and this and that. And there was different names. State Trooper had some howls at 2 o'clock in the morning. Eric, my brother did a report on fishermen up there getting howls and screams.

You know, the legends go way back up there. Right here in my backyard, Cobble Mountain. Man, that is absolutely fantastic. It's great to hear someone call it grinders because I say that out here in the Midwest and everyone thinks I'm crazy because they don't get it, you know, what I'm talking about. Yeah. So you guys have been involved with a lot of investigations over the years. Are there any that really stick out that are like that was a crazy thing that we were involved with looking into for the BFRO or Squatchezucet that you could share?

Yeah, it was actually on our own and it was a, we were doing a school group. We had a business called Toccoa Mountain Outdoors. It was an adventure education business. So we'll say that we've been doing this a long time and we're in the woods all the time. Yeah, this is why. This goes back to 1990 when we started the business. So 1998 when it was legit, I guess. So we've been doing this stuff for a long time.

And we were in Northwest Connecticut providing a ropes course, a high ropes course for a school group. There's a Catholic school group. And there's 30 kids, two teachers, and Eric and myself. And we've got them for the whole weekend. So it's a team building event up on the mountain, which is pretty remote, and there are zero people around the area. There's zero people in the area, put it to have nothing there. Southern mountain all by itself. Yeah, southern.

It's on the Appalachian Trail, but west of it, and it's in between the Taconic's and the AT. So there's no easy way to get into it outside of a trail. So anyways, it's a hard place to get to. That's my point. So we're doing a ropes course. And we've been doing ropes courses here for 15 years, and we've never had this issue. And we've been on that mountain numerous times, numerous times up and down it. The only thing on the top of it is a chimney.

There used to be a house and it burnt down, so it's a chimney. And the schools take kids up there, classes and whatnot, and they go up there and they sit there and they reflect and whatever. So the chimney is being used all the time. And there's nothing up there. It's just mountain chimney and trees. So at this time, me and Eric are making dinner. We're down at our campsite. We're cooking dinner.

And the teachers and the kids are up at this chimney. And it's a bit of a hike and it's pretty steep to get to it. And in the 30s and 40s, that was a big thing. Cabot's on mountains until they all burnt down. They were called Summit Houses. They had an old rope, toe rope, ski slopes. Yeah, ski slope there. So anyways, that's all gone. So there's nothing up there. Anyway, these guys come down from their Bible study. Eric and I are done cooking and we're

fixing that, handed out. We're, you know, doing burgers and whatnot. And, you know, everybody's at this point just about ready to sit down and eat. And at that point, I was pouring coffee. Yeah. And Tim was standing on my right and the pastor was on my left. and out of nowhere you heard this siren sound like somebody flipped the switch and turned it on it just went on but it went on for 15, 20 seconds. It sounded like the highest tone of a plea. I'm top of the mountain. Now the pastor's stand there.

His eyes are like half dollars and he just looks at me and I said, yep. And they just left the mountain. I said, Tim, and he goes, yep, big flagflip. So the preacher's all freaked out. Yeah, he looked over at the pastor and says, and he came over on the yard. Oh, she was seeing the look at this thing. You guys said that?

Yeah, that's hilarious. Oh, yeah. He'd been talking to Bigfoot all weekend, and of course, it's bizarre. They thought we were crazy until this happened. And then all of a sudden something bizarre happened. And literally, it came from an area where they believed they were just at, No explaining it. Literally, it sounded like a police car at its very highest tone. And, of course, when we went to cheating it up, we had other people say that they've heard that saying sound.

Yeah, other reports, we've had this high-pitched siren sound. So that would have been related to today. It would have been a whistle. Now, you know, we say it was a siren sound, but that would have been potentially. That would have a very high-pitched powerful whistle. So now we're finishing dinner. We had our fun. Ha, ha, ha. That was Bigfoot. and they all got the point and laugh. So Eric and I walk off in humiliation.

So we had fun with it. We go back. We're finishing the night. And it's kind of getting dark and the owls are kicking up. And it's, you know, that kind of thing going on. And if you know owls, they're territorial. And there's probably a half a dozen, maybe more owls. And it sounds like they're fighting.

And we've been down here for years. And it really never happens. Never. You hear the coyotes. once in a while across the swamp. We heard something similar in New York where they were territorial and fighting, but not like this.

This was crazy. Has a gowls going after each other like that? And then we heard coyotes. Coyotes all night long. They were going off like they had just gotten a fresh kill. That's what it sounded like. What was on a fresh kill? That's what it sounded like.

It was absolutely nuts, and we've only heard it a few times. Heard plenty of coyotes. It was on our side of the swamp this time, not on the other side where usually it's on the other side. Now, Farms near the world and we're set up, tens of ten,

I'm in a tent, I'm in a hammock, and I'm laying there. I get in there, and I'm laying there, and I said, man, I said,

all of a sudden you could hear them. You can hear them down the mountain. They were on our side. They were coming down the mountain. You literally could hear them hitting the ground. Highouts are running down. And I yelled over to Tim, and I said,

man, I hope I'm high enough, you know. And I have an undercryl quilt that goes under my hammock taco. And yeah, I'm like a taco. So you can hear them. They're thundering down, down the mountain, and they're coming right at me.

And I just yelled to them. I say, here they come. And I felt my undercult move as it went underneath my hammock. And they went right by him and I down the mountain off, off into the wood somewhere. Yeah, doing the crazy coyote. Yeah, it was nuts. I never had. That ever in my life, I was like, you've got to be kidding.

That was called him. So that in itself, it was a very excited night. The atmosphere was excited. The pilots, the owls, that Bigfoot scream. That was probably, you know, never, ever had any of that on our side. Everything, the weird, most of the noises and stuff came from the farm side, which is to be expected because there's food over there for every critter out there. Yeah. Never on our side, but everything was happening on our side that night.

Yeah, it was the coyotes. So we got up that morning. We finished off the ropes course. We went back, we started packing up. Yeah, the group leaves. And we're standing there. We're talking to each other. And all of a sudden, there's a tree. Yeah. There's a tree laid down. It has to be one. This is a full-sized oak tree that has a full green canopy. Yeah, it just fell over. It had 60 to 90 feet across in the canopy, at least. It's got all the leaves on. It's like a blowdown and a thunderstorm. It just fell over. And all of a sudden you hear something coming through all of these leaves and these tree limbs and sticks. And it hits the ground and it's a rock the size of a candle pinball.

Yeah. And I went, what? 15 feet or? It was half a feet away. Far from us. I was like, what is that? Yeah. And I just looked at him and I said, yeah, it's time to go.

Yeah. And prior to that, we heard noises behind the tree. and we thought it was just a deer and didn't even really give it a second thought but after you could hear that rock come flying through and hitting all those branches all the way through it and then

and then cream and landed and all of a sudden that's probably one of the craziest ones do you think it's because the other group left and you guys were still hanging out? I think I think there's a symbiotic relationship

with the coyotes and maybe the owls. Bigfoot has been mimicking owls, and I have reports and no people that have class A sightings watching a Bigfoot do it and making the sightings, and he thought it was an owl. So we know the Bigfoot's make owl calls, so probably it's a camouflage tactic. And the coyotes, they might just, you know, work together. Coyotes might go get something.

Big Bois walks in Ireland. Bigfoot makes it away. It doesn't say it happens on all their kills, but potentially on some. of them and that's why all three were together and all three were excited we had a big foot what we believe a whistle hours before all this the owls started up very uncanny it was very it was very different the way they behaved and the the coyotes were from the top of the mountain all the way down like they had a kill and it's kind of weird because generally around the kill they're all in one area and they're making all that noise because they're excited this is they're excited and

and they're running like hell down the mountain and they're still yippin. And I don't know, if you've learned behaviors and stuff like that, it was an odd behavior. And that's what we noticed now. So it was an odd behavior. All three behaviors were at the same time. Is it linked together? Possibly. Maybe the coyotes had something and the Bigfoot wanted it and we interrupted it.

Wow, that makes sense. Did you guys say, did you just say that you got a report where someone had seen a Bigfoot mimicking an owl sound? Yep, right here in our camp. Wow. Yeah, I'm not going to give his name, but he's a local here. He called the police. Actually, his first thing, he called the police and made a report to the chief.

Now, I don't really know the chief at this time. I've been here five years, so this is all, you know, kind of new to me. I don't really know the chief. So the chief comes up to me and says, hi, I'm the chief, blah, blah, blah, I introduced myself, blah, blah, blah, blah. He says, I've got a hunter that's got a concern. He made a report. And I had already seen this report on, I think it was the BFRO site or something.

And called the guy, talked to the guy. And so when the chief came, I already knew what he was looking at when he said, I've got this odd report I have to talk to you about. I said, no, is it about Bigfoot? And he says, oh, you know? So I said, well, I don't know. Let's share stories and see if we're talking about the same thing. So the chief gave me his story, which turned out to be the same story I heard from, you know, the guy himself.

And he and his son were out in the back of the property here, just a little ways away from my house. And he was down in the swamp. His kid was up on the hill. And he was hearing what I'm going to call the berry white tone owl. It was a very low-toned owl. It is too low to be the normal sound owl. If you've heard the, like I just did on, you know, that's an owl sound.

It's not a, you know, now add that a super low tone to it and put Barry White's voice on it. That's what it comes out to be. So that's what this guy's describing to me. It's a Barry White sounding owl. That's what he's trying to wrap my head around this. I said, okay. So anyways, he calls his kid at the top of the mountain. And he says, hey, are you doing that sound?

kid says, no, I thought it was you. He says, all right, let's get the heck out of here. So they come down, they meet the stream. They walk up to the quad, and they're going to drive out. And on their way out, walking to the quad, dad turns around and sees this big foot. He thinks it's a big foot crossing, just kind of walking across the path, way down. And he sees this movement and this large object walking across the path. So he makes his report.

The chief comes up, does his report. I can go back out there a couple days later with this guy with no real hopes of finding any evidence. And lo and behold, first off, this guy didn't want to go back. I had to go back in the woods there myself. He would not go back with me. I went back to the spot and I came back with a picture of a dollar bill in a track, in a bigfoot track. This track was located in the top of moss, this stuff called sphagnum moss. It's really spongy and really thick.

And this big foot had enough weight to compress it, enough to keep a shape in it, to look like a foot, where I put a full dollar in it, and it was probably, I'm going to say, 14, 15 inches long. Maybe a little bit bigger. But I didn't really tape it out. I put the dollar in it for reference. Took the picture, and I got out of there. And I went back and I said, you know, I think I might have some verification for your story. and I showed him the track where I found.

He said that's exactly where I saw it. And when he said he saw it, you could kind of where he was, you could, you could see that area where if it was a big foot, it was down the, if you're looking down a trail, it's kind of wooded on either side of the trail. And you got this long hallway of tree sort of in this bigfoot crossing at the end of the hall. That's what he said he saw. And that's what I went down there and I saw a track. So I took it. It was a, it's, you know, rough substrate. out here. It's leaves, it's oaks, it's dirt, it's rock. It's really tough stuff. So it's hard

to get a track. And this happened to the way this foot landed straight in the middle of a sphagnum moss patch and it was just one. We actually did find another one, but it was disturbance in the leaves and it was five, six feet away. But couldn't really say that was a big point. But that's right here, you know, half mile, not even a half mile from my house. Oh my goodness. It's incredible. It's incredible. You have the rapport like that with the local police chief where they're coming to you too. Yeah. No, we do the Russell family fund day. We're involved with that as the Cobble Mouth Critter Project.

And like I said, next year we're going to be handing out pine trees. And we're using their police badge. They're putting our logo on their police badge. And that'll be a fundraiser for pine trees so we can hand those out. And then we do trunk or treat. So if there's anybody in Western Mass looking to help out with trunk or treat, that's October 21st. You check it out on the Russell police page. They want to get some paranormal people out there and you know, just make it big and fun. That's up. So yeah, being Bigfoot and being in the communities,

is the only way to get these people to talk to you. And, you know, you're not so new to them anymore. You're not so scary anymore. You're just the Bigfoot guys in Cumberland Farms getting a coffee. I feel like that's a huge, huge lesson for people to learn that are listening about, yeah, I mean, just be nice, help out with the community and stuff will probably happen for you. Guys, it's been such a pleasure chatting with you, Tim and Eric. And do you mind just taking a few minutes to remind people how they can, you know, keep up to date with what you're doing, maybe talk about the festival. I don't know if the festival is going to be back for year two, how they can contact you and all that good stuff.

All right. Well, that's a good question. For contacting us, you can go to the Vogel Brothers Facebook page, and Eric and I are there. You just leave a message, print out whatever you need to. That's the Vogel Brothers on Facebook. Then we have the Cobble Mountain Critter page, and that hosts our outdoor education mostly on that page. And then we have the... You'll see us on Instagram.

No, yeah, Instagram and whatever it does. We're really not a social media giant. We don't really get into all that stuff. having we're more we're more about research and get boots on the ground stuff than we are advertising so anyways we'll probably change that down the road but anyways we also do the cobblum mountain critter festival at least we did that last year turned out to be really great we had a lot of rain in june we're looking to do it again yeah right we had some rains but we had you know the people came out they they helped support it which was really good yeah for a first time event out and

Western Mass, we had over 300 people show up in the middle of a rain and pour her later. We were very happy with those numbers. This year, we might do, not this year, we're going to set it up for next year. I believe we're going to look, we're changing up. We're going to do a research or rendezvous, and we're inviting any local, local meaning Northeast investigators, research, you know, through the East Coast, Northeast, we want to talk with you.

We're interested about sharing information. We don't have a collective database where we can go and do all this stuff at. So we're going to provide a place. We're at the camp here in Russell Mass. We have 1,300 acres. We've got a huge building. I've got over 150 tents. If we do it at the right time of year, you can stay at.

So anyways, we're going to do a researcher rendezvous, I believe, in 26. And then in 27, we're going to bring back the festival. And again, the festival showcases new researchers, new talent coming, in people you're not going to recognize most likely. Some people might, their locals, that they investigate locally for, but it's not a lot of big names. And these people are boots on the ground, and they're getting it done, and they deserve recognition. And there's not a lot of platforms for these people to get recognition. So the festival started in that vein to bring light to people that didn't have big names and big money and things like that.

We're just people making it day by day, having fun, spending our money, our own earnings and our own time, chasing around Bigfoot. And really, that's it. Guys, I love it. You guys get it. It is so good talking to you guys. And that idea for the future with the festival and the researcher rendezvous, man, you are on the right path.

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