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Episode Date: August 24, 2025

Originally released as Episode 438. What happens when a camping trip at Harrison Bay State Park turns into a night-long siege by something massive — something that walks on two legs and isn’t afra...id of guns? In this gripping episode, we sit down with Mark Eller Sr. from Chickamauga, Georgia, to hear decades of personal encounters with Bigfoot across Tennessee, Georgia, and Arkansas. From eerie whoops echoing off sandstone cliffs near Raccoon Mountain Pump Station, to a terrifying moonlit night when heavy footsteps splashed closer through shallow water, to the jaw-dropping sight of a towering figure leaping highway fences at full speed in rural Arkansas — Mark’s stories will have you rethinking the quiet places you thought you knew. You’ll hear names like Missionary Ridge, Pigeon Mountain Wildlife Management Area, and Pine Tree WMA — and the unsettling events that unfolded there. This isn’t just a string of campfire tales; it’s a detailed, first-hand record from a lifelong outdoorsman who knows what he saw, heard, and felt.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:07 All right, Bigfoot Society, you got the privilege of talking to Mark Ellar, Sr. He's from Chickamauga, Georgia. He's a gentleman I've talked to off and on for quite a while, but it's been a while in common for us to be able to sit down and chat, as it were, over the phone. And Mark, it's great to talk to you again. Yeah, bad to be here. I'll tell a little bit about myself.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I'm 56 years old as of yesterday. Born and raised in Chattanooga, Tennessee on the outskirts of town. We lived near a wooded area, area called Missionary Ridge, a big stretch of woods facing us with a lookout mountain to the east, outing to the west, and then Signal Mountain, Raccoon Mountain, and then just five or six other mountains. Chattanooga is kind of like a bowl. So we spend a lot of time in the woods, and we hunt. hunted and fish. There was myself and three brothers and a sister, mom and dad, and a grandmother that lived with us.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And we hunted and fish to supplement our meals. And so anyway, spent a lot of time in the woods. And so I wanted to tell you about my education, I dropped out of high school at the end of 12th grade. They wanted me to come back for three more months, so I didn't want to. So dropped out. Two years later, went to college, got in the social school. degree. And about 14 years later, I went to college and got a bachelor's degree in business administration from Belhaven University, Mississippi. It was a night school program. And I worked for
Starting point is 00:03:48 the Department of Transportation, Tennessee Department of Transportation. I was a right-of-way agent because I had had real estate experience. I had been a real estate broker for 14 or 15 years. and it was kind of handy. A lot of education was with the right-of-way. That's the eminent domain. And so just say I'm a little bit educated. Always reading. I'm always trying to learn something else
Starting point is 00:04:16 and actually am currently enrolled at University of Pittsburgh. I'm trying to get an engineering degree in the field that I worked in now. I'm a fiber optic technician. I've been doing that about 15 years. I do outages for all kinds of companies all over Metro Atlanta. And so anyway, like to learn, like to read, like to know what's going on. So I'll start out with my first kind of encounter I had. It was 1982.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I was 14 years old. My dad had just bought a boat from my uncle. And we'd never had a boat before. We'd always bank fished. And we were excited. It was just he and I. and we were going to an area called Raccoon Mountain Pub Station. That's a hydroelectric power station that TVA, of Tennessee Valley Authority, operate.
Starting point is 00:05:12 They actually stuck water out of the Tennessee River. We're up this big giant pot with a slow pump, and it fills up this big lake at the top of the mountain. And then when extra power is needed, they drain that lake very fast, and it goes right, back into the river and it turns turbines and generates electricity. Well, there's a boat ramp there. We launch our boat and we go upriver would be going towards Dunlap, Tennessee. So Raccoon Mountain Pump Station would be west of Chattanooga off U.S. Highway 41. And so we're out fishing.
Starting point is 00:05:53 We're heading to a certain location. My dad wanted to go to. and we're kind of way up river. And we were just below Bowling Springs branch. The only reason I know that is I was looking to to see exactly where we were. And below blowing Springs branch
Starting point is 00:06:12 is a bunch of huge cliffs on the left side of the river. There are sandstone cliffs. And there's all kinds of caves that you can see. If you're on the opposite side of the river, you can see these caves, just the openings and small edges. and all of that property is owned by a trust company. A bunch of attorneys,
Starting point is 00:06:34 and I don't remember what year they did this. It had to been, you know, prior to 1982, but they bought a whole bunch of land that butts up against some wildlife management property. They bought it, put it into a trust, so no one could ever buy it and develop it. And you can't hunt on it. You can't, if you get caught on it, you go to jail. So I've never been to the property.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I know where it's at. But anyway, we get to this area and we throw out the anchor and we're fishing. And it's real quiet, beautiful day, beautiful skies, no wind. You know, a few birds. You can see a couple of hawks and flying around. And we noticed that every time we caught a fish, we would hear this kind of a whooping noise. And I asked my dad, what is that?
Starting point is 00:07:30 And every time we caught a fish, whoop. And he said, I don't know. It sounds like an owl. I said, well, I never heard an owl, sound like that. Then we noticed if we caught a fish that wasn't limit size and we threw it back, we would hear from different directions, but it's always coming from that cliff. We would hear like somebody that was exasperated, you know, that we threw the fish back.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And this went on for several hours. I mean, every time we caught a fish, we heard the wood. And we talked about it, and we never could see anything. Dad went to the other side of the river, the far side, where we could look up on those cliffs. And it was just too high, and the openings were too dark, and we were looking for owls. So went home, told my mother about it, and she thought it was funny.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I never thought of it again until. I saw a spot on one of Dave Pilates's movies, 4-1-1 missing The Hunted, where he was talking with Ron Moorhead, and they played the Sierra signs. And, man, it hit me like a brick that I recognized those sounds. And then it was about the time, right around Christmas, I went and saw my mother, and I asked her, did she remember? And she said, oh, yeah, your dad and I talked about it a lot. said he told me, which my dad never shared this to me, it sounded like a monkey.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And the same, the year I was born in May of 68, Chattanooga had a very small little zoo. It was called Zooville. And they had acquired a newborn chimpanzee, and his name was Hank. And we were actually born on the same day and the same year. And I always kind of, you know, like to go see him because of our little connection. And he's funny and very entertaining. And he actually passed away 30 years ago, I believe. Anyway, my mother said that dad said it sounded like Hank at the zoo hooping and hollard.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So it really validated my memories because memories are not always correct. And you think you know this and you think you know that, especially the memories. of the child. So that was my first, my first encounter of, I don't know what, but man, it sure did sound like what Ron Moorhead and those guys recorded up in the Sierra Mountains. Were there any parts of that that also sounded like how, when you listen to Ron Moorhead's tapes, it almost sounds like a language? Or was it just, you know, you could pick out parts of it, like, okay, kind of sounds like that way there?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Never heard, never heard the language part. it was, I knew at the time that we were being observed, and we were thinking it was, we were being, at least I was, it was an owl, because that's what my father says. And, you know, we knew about Bigfoot and all that stuff from seeing the, being the, what was it, the, what was it, the, um, uh, in search of that came out in the 70s. And, and my dad talked about it. My dad said, you know, there's a lot of woods around here. And there's, you know, who knows what's, what's out there and what's not out there. And, uh, and, and, uh, and, We never really talked about Bigfoot other than when it would come on television or something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 But no, we never heard a language. It was just, and it almost sounded like juveniles. It was not a guttural whoop, or it wasn't a, and when they made their exasperation, it didn't sound like it came from something very large. But of course, it was echoing to a small, you know, canyon in the water probably play tricks on the sound as well. well, but the found carried because of the water. And the river was very wide right there. How high up were those caves up on the side of the wall?
Starting point is 00:11:35 Oh, my gosh. I've been wanting to go back. My cousin's got a boat and he fishes that area. I would say 60 or 70 feet in maybe the highest spots. But the way the holes are, I was looking at it today on, on Google Earth, the 3D, kind of like the street view, but you know,
Starting point is 00:11:57 you're not on the street. And you could see, you could see the, um, the holes in the caves. Like I said, if you, if you went on,
Starting point is 00:12:05 if you go on Google Earth and go to, um, um, the, the TVA Racco Raccoon Mountain Pump station and start there and go, you'd be going, um,
Starting point is 00:12:18 I think would be north, east direction. So you start there and go to the right, go to the river to the right. And it snakes around a whole bunch. Then you look for enlarge the screen and you look for the blowing springs branch and then look down on your 3D. You'll see those cliffs. And it brought back a lot of memories to see that today.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It was amazing that I could actually find it. And I spent quite a bit of time while I was at work. A little time while I'm working, I'm sitting waiting on technicians to contact me while I'm usually testing in a data center and they're out in the field. So I have a lot of times. So I was looking. I was like, God, can't believe that I can see these cliffs like this. But very high, 60, 70, maybe 80 feet at the house point.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's all sandstone. And also kind of similar question, how close were the caves from the top of the cliff? So if something was to come from the top, how far down would they have to get to get to those cliffs? These openings are sporadic. You'll have maybe 20 or 30 feet up. You'll have a ledge. And then beyond that ledge, maybe two or three, four feet of a ledge. And then there's a big open.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And then maybe one or two close to each other. And then 10 or 15, 20 feet above, there'll be two or three more over the little ledge. And then some of them don't have a ledge. There's just holes. And I always wondered how those holes were made. And I had never, I had never fished there before with my dad, but I have been on a boat trip with my uncle in that same boat that my dad bought him. And he would always go beyond that. But we would always look at those caves and he would pour them out, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And even when I was nine, 10 years old, he'd pour them out, you know, wonder who made them caves or what made those caves. but all that always kind of made me wonder while that property was was bought up and put into a trust. And that kind of made me think, well, maybe somebody was trying to hide something. Yeah, it's very interesting. And I mean, wilder things have happened. I mean, I don't think it's out of the question to say something like that that could have happened. Have you ever done any research to see if anyone else has had any experiences like that in that area or any weird? things happen?
Starting point is 00:14:49 Well, I'll tell you this, if you go on the Bigfoot map, there's a guy, I can't think his name, I can tell you the name of the map, give me just one second. There's a guy that's created a map, and it is Bigfoot sightings all over the country, and it's called Bigfoot Map Projects. Yep. And there are hundreds, and I'm looking at it right now, and all through, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama. I mean, it's a sea of red and red indicating sightings.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And it's just, it's amazing a number of people that have had sightings. And like I mentioned to you earlier, today in the Chattanooga Times was an article about a group of Bigfoot walkers that are local that were having a conference. I didn't get that chance to read the article, but I will when I get back home. I'm still in Atlanta right now. But anyway, I thought it was kind of ironic that we're doing our interview tonight, and this was in the Chattanooga paper today. So there was a siting a couple of months ago, and I think it was Mr. Moneymaker that had it on his podcast with husband and wife that had a siding. They almost hit one on U.S. 11 in Trenton, Georgia, which is, you know, 15, 18 miles from where I live in Chickamauga, which is probably 25 miles. Austin Chabinaga area.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah, Bigfootmap.com is the website. If listeners are wanting to check that out, if you haven't already, it's awesome. Like, you look at the area that Mark is talking about in a little south of it,
Starting point is 00:16:33 down in the Crocker, Crockford Pigeon Mountain Wildlife Management area. It is just lit up like the 4th of July. There's all sorts of stuff there. My grandson, and Sunday in law and I camped there four weeks ago. It was the last week of March. And I'm going to tell you, I'm ashamed to say that I didn't know that that Fidgin
Starting point is 00:16:57 Mountain Wildlife Management was 26,000 acres. I had no idea. I've been to different parts. I didn't know they had camping. And when I found out, we went. And we had a absolutely wonderful time. And we heard all kinds of noises. And we were listening.
Starting point is 00:17:16 stayed up very late and this is a primitive camping area. There was one other group, two older guys, that were about a thousand yards from us. We were the only people there. We heard some pretty loud movement, and I have not visions and infrared, but we never could spot anything. But yes, a pigeon mountain is, well, as the crow flies,
Starting point is 00:17:44 it's about 12 miles from where I live, but it's about a 45-minute drive to get to it because you have to go up and down a mountain and a half really to get to it. It's interesting. It's even lit up more than the, if you go further east, the Blue Ridge, Georgia area, Cherry Log over where the Bigfoot Museum is. And everyone talks about how that area, of course, is very, very full of Bigfoot encounters. But, I mean, it is not lit up on this map even close to, uh, to the area that we're referring to. I'm going to tell you,
Starting point is 00:18:21 let's tell you, Tennessee, you've got four or five major cities. So you've got Memphis, you've got Nashville, you've got Cookville, you've got Chattanooga, you've got Knoxville. So that's five major cities.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Between those cities is several hundred miles of woodland. And I couldn't tell you how many state parks and national parks and wildlife management areas there are. There's areas you can get on the interstate and drive, and if you don't have gas, you better get gas quick because there's a lot of nothingness between these places. And it's a lot like being in Seattle. It's a lot like being in Montana. Now, those areas, the big towns are a lot further away, but the nothingness of wilderness between those big towns is the same. I mean, there's nothing, just woods.
Starting point is 00:19:14 and very easy, very easy for a cryptid to hide. And I don't even like to use the word cryptid because if you just look at anecdotal evidence with all of the credible sightings just within the last 100 years, I consider myself a credible person. I didn't see anything on this particular instance, but I heard something. I'm educated. I'm a person. I know I know that something happened and I know I have listened to about 15 different varieties of owls how they sound and none of them sounded like what we heard and so I know it wasn't an owl and I don't think it was a chimpanzee but anyway then you take the footprints and then you take the hair samples you know the DNA project that Dave Pilates and Scott
Starting point is 00:20:13 Carpenter did. I mean, they've proved. I mean, they got the proof. And if you hadn't read that or seen that documentary, you need to see it because they, they, in a lot of time and a lot of money with, with this DNA project. So it, to me, it's not, it's not cryptids. It's there. People, I mean, at one point, somebody will, I mean, they had, they had hair, hair follicles with mitochondrial DNA, they had blood, saliva, and flesh that they were, that were determined. Once they tested it with the human genome, it came back as in the human, the humans, the human, whatever you want to call it. But anyway, it was human, but the hair follicles are not human. Hair follicles are slick on the outside edges.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Big foot hair follicles are ribbed. They're jagged. They look like they're a scale. They look scaly. And there's no other animal other than the Sasquatch that has the same hair follicle. And they have those hair follicles all over the country. But they're testing them with known animals. They comes back on an unknown primate.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I don't think it's a primate. I just don't think it's a primate. I think it's something else. It's very interesting. And we'll see what comes in the future. I know there's also another DNA study going on right now with Darby Orca out of, I think, North Carolina State perhaps, a college up in that area. So, you know, hopefully we get some solid answers, you know, within our lifetime at least. Well, I think we will.
Starting point is 00:22:01 The disclosure is coming in a lot of different ways, a lot of different areas, a lot of different areas. areas. I have another story or two if you'd like to hear. Yeah, absolutely. I hate to say story because that sounds like, but I have a couple other incidents that happened and I'll be glad to tell you about it. Yes, sir. The next one happened and this is chronological. And I looked up the dates on calendars because I wanted to be precise.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And I got married on September 27th of 1986 and, um, I picked the date because that was the opening of squirrel season and small game season. And I knew I'd never forget my anniversary. So anyway, so Monday, October the 20th, 1986, we hadn't been married just a couple of weeks. My young wife wanted to go camping. And her parents were just absolutely upset about it. We had our own home and I had a job. And we were living away from her, our parents and my parents.
Starting point is 00:23:01 and so her dad had a pickup truck and one of those campers that slid in the back of the pickup truck and had a like the sleep route went over the top of the truck so they insisted that instead of taking my vehicle I took his truck and used their camper that way if it rained we wouldn't get rain gone and neither one of us would melt or die whatever this was a very very mild October for where we live So anyway, I went ahead and, you know, did what they asked. So I took his truck at his camp. And so we went to Harrison Bay, which is a state park, which is backwaters of the Chickamauga Dam, which is another TVA project.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's a hydroelectric dam. And when they built a dam, they back flooded all this property. And this is a slew that I spent many weekend nights with friends. friends quote unquote camping, which meant sitting around a campfire drinking a whole heck of a lot of beer. And nobody had a tent. So anyway, to this area, I knew there would be no one there. It was a Monday night in October, and she and I went. And where we went was a road named Maddox Cemetery Road.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Because it's a dead end of that road was Maddox Cemetery, very, very old cemetery. And if somebody wants to look it up, it's off of, North Highway 58 in Chattanooga. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel... Uh-huh. And more.
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Starting point is 00:26:37 road. Now I think it's a four-lane with a turning lane and I don't know if
Starting point is 00:26:44 Maddox Cemetery Road still has a sign. However, you can find Maddox Cemetery on Google
Starting point is 00:26:51 Maps or Google Earth. I looked up myself and just the other day. And so anyway, so we go to end the Matic Cemetery Road. There's a
Starting point is 00:27:02 little road that me and my friends cut in there that lead right up to the water. Year ago, we cut it in there. I pulled the truck in there, turn it around and get, I don't know why I didn't turn it to
Starting point is 00:27:17 where the front of the truck was aiming to the, towards the road to exit, but I aimed it a different way. I don't my mom. I did that. But anyway, so my wife was adamant about sleeping in a tent. So I set the tent up. And there was already a fire ring that probably me and my friends built years earlier. And I built a fire and we have dinner and we're chit-chat and have a nice time. And then it's bedtime and the fire is going down. We get and go in the tent. And the truck and camper is about
Starting point is 00:27:53 30 feet from the entrance of our tent. So we're just laying there talking, and I've got the zipper unzipped to the roof of the tent, so we could actually see the stars, you know. But it was probably only about a three-foot-by-three-foot area. I guess I took the rain thing off, whatever you call that, so we could see the stars because there was no precipitation expected. All of a sudden, we start hearing footsteps.
Starting point is 00:28:23 and it's distinct footsteps. And I'm a hunter. I'm hunted my whole lot. Squirrel, rabbit, deer. You know, I'm a hunt. So I raise up and I actually turn my body around
Starting point is 00:28:41 to where I can hear where the noise is coming. So it's coming from the left side of the road, but it's in the woods. And I hear step, step, step, step. And the, Stets were, they were sounded, they sounded, either something was moving real slow or it had a pretty good strike. And I thought, well, dang, somebody's coming through here.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And so I had, I had a 35 Marlin magazine full. I had my, had a 357 with an eight-inch barrel, and that's all we had with us. And so I, I get up on my knees and I, where my face is, up to the, the netting and I shout out that direction hey we're camping back here and I'd appreciate it if you'd find somewhere else to fish
Starting point is 00:29:33 there's a whole lot of shoreline so please find some other place to fish well it stopped for a second and then it moved again this time a little slower and then it actually moved sort of
Starting point is 00:29:51 west of us I could hear it going off in the distance to the west of where our tent was. But it was still in a westerly direction coming towards us, but it moved away. Then all of a sudden, we hear a splash in the water. Now, this is, you know, where we're at, Chattanooga is filled with what we call red Georgia clay, because the Georgia clay runs all the way into Chattanooga. A red clay doesn't know any state bounds. But anyway, packed hard, red Georgia clay is where we're at.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And the ledge from the edge of the where the land meets the water probably isn't but about two feet. There's no waves or anything unless a boat comes through and makes a wake. Anyway, we hear a splash. And then we hear, now the water's probably two foot deep, maybe deeper. But then we hear splash, splash, splash, you could hear something taking steps. I was six foot five at the time. If I was standing in two foot of water, you wouldn't hear my footsteps. Because my feet would not come out of that water.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It would be moving in the water. And I thought that was extremely strange. And my wife got scared. And it was coming our direction in the water. And now we can't see anything. Now, there's a full moon, but I can't see. We're not close enough to the water to where I can see what's going on. Well, then it quietens down for a few minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Then all of a sudden we hear something coming out of the water on the opposite side of us, on the east side of our tent, probably 30 feet, 40 feet away from us. Now, we're only like 10 feet away from the wood edge. It's walking through the wood. And I'll holler out again. Hey, I'd appreciate it if you'd find another place to feel. we're camping here. And then it stops.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And then it crossed, I hear it, not just sort of coming towards us, but basically I felt like it was coming out of the woods, crossing the road, going back to the other side of the road where it was. And then it started coming back towards us. And I hollered out again. I said, I've got a gun, and I'm not afraid to use it.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So I told my wife, I said, I hadn't heard the rifle. and I said, it's got a bullet in the chamber. And she knew how to shoot. And all you had to do was pull the hammer back and pull the trigger on that rifle. I said, don't shoot me. I unzipped the tent. And I said, I'm going to run out.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And I said, I noticed there was an old tire land over next to where I parked. I'm going to run out there. And I carried the pistol with me. I'm going to grab that tire. And I'm going to throw it on the fire. Now, the fire was just embers and no flame. And I said, as soon as I thought on the fire, I'm going to run. run, jump right back into the tent.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Don't shoot me when I come back in unless it's not me. So anyway, and I said, it won't take but a minute or two if that fire to blaze up. And I said, when it does, we're going to run and get in that camper. And a normal person would say, why wouldn't you run and get in the truck and started up and leave? Well, her dad's ignition switch was messed up. and it had a, he had it kind of rigged where he had a little Allen wrench that he put in there and you pushed that Allen wrench forward and it would start the truck.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Well, when we got there, it got parked getting in now the truck. The Allen wrench fell and it fell on the ground. And I told her, she'd remind me the Allen wrench is over here on the ground. And that way tomorrow or we were going to leave on Sunday, I think, or on Wednesday or Thursday. Remind me to get this Allen wrench so we don't lose it. We won't be able to get out of here if I don't have it. So that's why I, because I didn't want to take the time to try to find this out of the ranch to get the truck started.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Then I had to back up. I was just, so I ran and grabbed the tire, threw it on the fire, jumped in the tent. And it took just a minute or two for the, for the tire to blaze. And it did. And it turned, I don't know if you've ever seen a tire on fire, but it turned to daylight in just a quick minute. and I grabbed her and she took the blankets and the pillows and I had both guns and we ran to the back of the truck. Now this camper was a little bit shorter than his eight-foot bed of his truck. So I had to lower the tailgate and then open the door, helped her in.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I got in, closed the door, raised the little window of the door, reached out and closed the tailgate. And that way, if something had to come in, he would have to open the tailgate and then open the door. and I was going to be opening fire. So I got her up in the sleeper area that went over the cab of the truck. And I laid in the floor facing that door. And we heard whatever this thing was, walk around our truck for several hours. And I yelled out several times. I didn't want to shoot.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I didn't fire my weapon off. And I don't know why I didn't. I could have fired my weapon off at any time. air and might have scared whoever, whatever it was off. And, but I just have, I've just been taught about gun safety. You shoot, you shoot a bullet, it goes somewhere and then it comes down somewhere. And if you don't know where that bullet's going, you probably ought not shoot it. And I just didn't.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I guess that was my muscle memory training of growing up around weapons. And so I never did shoot. But finally, it finally. finally it went away and stopped circling our camp. And, I mean, it was warm enough that I had the, the camper had crank out windows and the windows had screens on it. I had the windows opened a little bit all the way around just to get some air flow through there. Because there was no power to this camper.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It was just slid into there because we had no intentions of using it. And so we're sitting there and it was kind of muggy because it was a very mild, October. It was probably in the upper 60s, even at night. And so I could hear, and I could hear it walking in circles, and never did see it, never did see it. Well, when daylight came, we were ready to go. And I very cautiously stepped out and walked all around, and I could find no prints. And I didn't really expect to find any prints. I could see my prints where I ran from the tent. were in tennis shoes where I ran from the tent and grabbed the tire because I was running and stopped quickly and I could see the I couldn't see the tracks of my shoes without see my prints
Starting point is 00:36:45 but what we did see is I walked over to the west side of our camp area and you could see the water was clear and still you could see holes in the mud beneath the water and it was perfectly clear you see the bottom there were they were and I'm not saying you can say footprints But you can see where something walked and their strides and, you know, looking through water, the distance could be skewed or whatever. But these strides were pretty far apart. But like I said, whatever it was was walking, when it would take a step, its feet would come, its other foot would come completely out of the water and splash back into the water. You could see those holes in the dirt below the water on the shoreline for about 30 feet from where it went in to where it came. out. So you just have to
Starting point is 00:37:37 just imagine I had no idea, you know, what that was. I don't think it was a, I don't think it was a person because any normal person, somebody tells you, hey, I've got a gun, and I'm ready to defend myself. And would you please
Starting point is 00:37:53 leave? Because we're camping here, any normal person would leave. And they, whoever, whatever that was, did not. That's a wild account. man, that's probably one of the more intense ones I've taken. Did you find the
Starting point is 00:38:11 Allen Ranch on the ground? I did. I did find it. It was right on the ground next to the truck. And I'll tell you, this was my first wife. Her name was, and I spoke to her and she said it was okay. We're good friends. We had four kids together.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And her name was Connie. And she said she'd be more than happy to attest to the account of what happened. And we talked about it and she said I went through my account and she said that's exactly what happened. She said, I remember. She said, I have had nightmares about that. She said, I've told people about that a hundred times and sometimes we'll have family get together and of course we share children and grandchildren and we will be at the same birthday parties together and I'm remarried,
Starting point is 00:38:58 been married 24 years to my second wife and so we're all we're all adults. We get along just fine. And she'll have somebody there, maybe the guy she's married to me now. She said, hey, tell him, tell him what happened on our campus trip. And I'll tell him. And he goes, that's exactly what she said, you know. So, yeah, she's my validation. It happened. It happened.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And I sort of put my hand on a stack of Bibles. It happened. Wow. And what year was this again, Mark? It was 1986. 1986. So I'm guessing. October, right.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And I'm guessing in that area there probably wasn't a lot of, were there a lot of houses? Like, I'm looking at the map. Oh, no. That's state park. There are some houses that are on the Harrison Bay. It's in another area. Most of that, when the TVA built that, they bought all that land up in the 1930s. And actually, my great-grandfather was a state.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He helped to lead that whole program. They paid a dollar an acre. for people's farmland and then a lot of prospectors came in and bought the rest of it because they knew that people would want to live on the river at certain spots. But they made a state park
Starting point is 00:40:15 around there and there is a marina that's there and then this would be north of the arena and if you were able to look up Maddox Chapel Cemetery
Starting point is 00:40:29 I pulled it right up and just the other day I was telling a friend. One of the guys I work with, ironically, he's not from here, but his wife is from the area I grew up in. She went to the high school right down the road from there. And she said that she didn't remember that road. But they actually found the Maddox Chapel Cemetery and sent me a screenshot of it that I looked up and found it myself. But the Maddox Chapel Road, the entrance to it got changed when they have to imagine widening a two-lane road to a four-lane with a, you know, a turning lane in the middle of it. They took a whole lot. And there was a lot of property to take because you're right there on the bay anyway. It's a really interesting account, especially if you look at a map, and I would recommend listeners look at a map.
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's just so interesting how this whole area is laid out. These things happened. Like I said, I never said it was a big foot. but I don't think it was a person or any sane person or it could have been an insane person that had a very, very, very long stride. Either way, it's like you're in a bad situation no matter what it is. It's not a fun situation. When you were listening to something walking around then, did you hear any other sounds
Starting point is 00:41:58 that were happening at the same time? No, it was quiet. And see, the thing about it is, the only reason I heard, I should have mentioned this, the only reason I guess I would have heard the footsteps sooner. I mean, I would have heard the footsteps probably later on than what I did. But we were laying there, and, you know, it's still warm out. And there's like a million frogs. And I don't remember hearing any crickets, but we did hear an hour or two and a few nightbirds.
Starting point is 00:42:30 but the frogs were almost deafening where they were chirping because it was still so warm and all of a sudden it got quiet and my wife said did she said did the frogs go to bed I guess they did
Starting point is 00:42:49 they all went to bed at the same time and then within a minute or two I hear the footsteps but she said is that a deer I said no that's a deer don't make that a deer does not make those kind of steps. That's a person.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Somebody on two feet walking, I can tell you that for sure. I've heard, I have tracked, you know, I could have killed, I could have killed a thousand button bucks that were legal to kill, but I wouldn't. I always waited for a big buck.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And, you know, just for the sport of it. And I know what a deer sounds like when it walks through the wood. I know what a coyote sounds like when I walks through the woods. I know what a bear sounds like Airboxes was this thing was not any of those things. And so, yes, I wish I had mentioned that, but yes, it was definitely quiet. I mean, there was not even any boats in the water because this has been a Friday night.
Starting point is 00:43:46 There would have been boats out on the water. You could have heard music, people playing their radios in their boats for a half mile or more. You could have heard it. There was nothing at all. You couldn't, we were so far back, you couldn't hear traffic. And we were only about maybe a mile from Highway 15th. But there's so much woods right there where we were in this little slew that the woods, we couldn't hear cars. We couldn't see the lots of cars.
Starting point is 00:44:10 So, yeah, it was quiet. Really interesting. It feels like I'm going to guess someone listening out there has had some. I just feels like there's probably something else that has happened in this particular Harrison Bay State Park over the year since 1986. So contact me, listeners, or put it in the comments if you've experienced something weird there. But, Mark, really interesting stuff so far. But what else have you experienced as well? Well, I've got another Bigfoot related.
Starting point is 00:44:45 It's not Bigfoot related, just Bigfoot. Okay. I had a horrible foot injury in like 2014. I lost my Achilles tendon and had 13 operations. and it was to the point to where I could no longer do my job at the Department of Transportation. And I'd had a CDL license since 1989. So I have an opportunity, after rehabilitation, I have an opportunity to go to work in the oil fields by driving a truck. And I made quite a bit of money.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That was 2014. And then the oil prices dropped. And the money was no longer there for being so far. away from home. And so myself and my brother-in-law were up in North Dakota working, so we decided to come home, and we got a job, team driving. We were driving for
Starting point is 00:45:40 Transport America. And so somewhere around January July, my brother-in-law had to go home because my sister was getting ready to have a baby. So I was driving by myself. So I looked this up because I'm actually made notes of this when it happened and I told my
Starting point is 00:46:00 what I told a bunch of people about it. So I went back to my notes and looked to refresh myself to make sure it happened on Tuesday, August the 18th of 2015. I was driving the semi like I said for Transport America. I dropped my loaded
Starting point is 00:46:15 trailer at a storage lot in West Memphis, Tennessee. And I deadheaded from Memphis to Little Rock. And those who don't know what deadhead means that when you drive your tractor, without a trailer. And normally it means you don't get paid or you get paid a lot less. So anyway, I got to Little Rock, fixed up my loaded trailer, but I only had about two hours
Starting point is 00:46:41 left of my drive time for the night, and I was trying to get the heck out of there so I could make it back to Memphis. So, let's see, well, I was traveling east on I-40 between Brinkley-Arts, in Forest City, and I looked that up after the fact because I didn't know where the heck I was. Because it was 2 o'clock in the morning when this happened. And there was no cars on the interstate at all at this time, which was kind of unusual. But there was another tractor trailer right next to a big old guy driving a Peterbilt. And we were in, and nowadays hardly any truck drivers use CB radios anymore. But I'm a CB guy.
Starting point is 00:47:26 and he happened to be too and he was he pulled up next to me we driving side by side and picked up his his CD mic and showed it to me and then I picked up mine and showed it to him and then he gave me the the finger numbers with his fingers
Starting point is 00:47:43 and what channel to go to and we were chit-chatting back and forth on the CB radio so so we were a traveling man and just chit-chat and back and forth We were in this section. In this area between Brinkley and the four city, it's absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I mean, man, it is nothing, nothing, nothing but woods. Little exits, exit or two here and there didn't have, you know, restaurant sign here, a gas station sign or a hotel sign. It said no services. So there was nothing. You could see no lights of any cities. There was no ambient light at all other than the
Starting point is 00:48:30 crystal clear black sky and a full moon. And we could see it's almost like daylight on the road. And then all of a sudden and I could probably, really and truly, this section we were at, I could probably see a mile, mile and a half ahead of me
Starting point is 00:48:47 just about because the moon was directly above us. And so to give you the layout, the interstate was two lanes going east than a median with about a four and a half foot concrete
Starting point is 00:49:02 divider and then two lanes going west. Then there was probably 40 or 50 feet of right of way, grass right of way, that led up to a fence that was at least
Starting point is 00:49:18 six feet tall and on both sides and which is normal for for for a road like that so uh off in the distance um and i can't i really can't tell you how far off in the distance it was because i could see so far but uh from the time i saw what i saw um it had crossed the road in the other side before we passed it so anyway i didn't see this thing come over the fence but whatever it was had to come over that fence within just a few strides of that 30 or so feet of grass, and then crossed two lanes of highway. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah. And you feel. Uh-huh. And more. More? Huh. I didn't think we could feel like that again at our age. Oh, get ready, girl.
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Starting point is 00:51:54 a lot of a clobrilla to the way difficult. Talked on your
Starting point is 00:51:58 doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocino for GSK. And then there were this area, they were
Starting point is 00:52:05 mile markers on both sides of the highway. And they had mile markers in, I think
Starting point is 00:52:12 tents. And they were on either wooden posts or I can't remember, but he
Starting point is 00:52:18 would say like mile marker just for instance, I don't know what my marker was. We'll say my marker 2.4. And it was on, I think it was on like a four before post right next to the concrete, the four and a half foot concrete divider. And this thing put its hand on that sign post and threw itself over that four and a half
Starting point is 00:52:39 foot concrete divider and ran across the highway. And then I did see it leap over the fence on the other side. and me and this guy were side by side and I looked over him, his eyes, balls was big around the saucers and mine was too. And I just hit the shoulder. And I hit the shoulder,
Starting point is 00:53:01 started slowing down, and he pulled over in front of me and got out and said, did you see that damn thing? And I said, yes, I did. And I'm going to tell you what, Jeremiah, it was either a really, really, really tall guy
Starting point is 00:53:16 in a gilly suit that was very athletic that could scale that that six-foot fence and that could throw himself over that that median and I'm telling you he ran 30 feet from the from the fence on my side two lanes jumped over that median and then ran two lanes in 30 feet or so and left over that fence on the other side very very very agile athletic you know seven half seven half eight foot tall guy in a gilly suit or it was a saskwatch. And that's all there is to it. And me and that guy changed numbers. And we talked several times over the years.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And I tried to call him. Actually, I tried to text him back last year when you and I spoke. And apparently his number has changed. He could possibly be deceased because he was possibly 10, 10 or 12, at least 10 years older than I was because he told me he'd be. and drive it for 35 years. But anyway, that was a absolutely jaw-dropping. Okay, this is definitely something.
Starting point is 00:54:28 There's something going on here in my brain happening. I mean, that's such an interesting encounter. And if you look at it on the map, there are multiple sightings in that area between Brinkley and the Forest City, I mean, especially around Palestine. I never even looked at that. You should. And I went from Palestine. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I wish I had. I should have. I never even thought about looking at the map there. I always look around where I live. I never even thought about looking there. I mean, it's lit up pretty good in that area. So, I mean, yeah, definitely check it out. But did you get a good look at the face of the creature at all?
Starting point is 00:55:10 No. He was running. I mean, it ran a straight line. wasn't no zigzagging, wasn't on nothing around a straight line, one fence to the other. And like I said, I didn't see him to come over the fence on my side,
Starting point is 00:55:23 but I've seen him by the edge of the fence. So he had to jump over that fence. If he jumped over the other one, he jumped over this one. But all I saw was the side view, and I'm going to be honest here. I've seen the gilly suit, a real one, and this thing,
Starting point is 00:55:39 they're very long and stringy, and this was not like that. This thing was covered in hair, and it was, I would say, probably no longer than four inches in its longest point. And you say it did look like it didn't have a neck, but it was so muscular. And I could see the muscles, just like the Patty film. I could see, I mean, it was in my headlights. By the time he got in front of the truck next to us within the headlight view,
Starting point is 00:56:13 he was in our headlights and he jumped over that median and was over past the other two lanes and across it and open the fence on the other side he was gone I mean he was moving I couldn't tell you what speed but we were doing my truck wouldn't go any faster
Starting point is 00:56:28 than 74 miles an hour and we were going downhill so I was probably going faster than that so it made no work at all of jumping those fences crossing those four lanes and jumping the other fence it didn't take any time at all and I just really
Starting point is 00:56:43 wish I had had dash cam. I don't even know if they had dash cam at the time, but I tell you what, I have a dash cam now. And because I'm not going to miss out on something that comes in front of me. Did you notice anything about the arms at all? The arms were in like a bent running move like you and I would run, you know, bit, but they were moving back and forth right and left. They weren't hanging down.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm not going to say that they were hanging down below the knees or any of that crap. because they were, I couldn't, it was wrong. So, but they were, they were huge for sure. And they were, they were very huge. And I did see, I did see his hands. I never, ever really thought about seeing his feet or looking at his feet because I was so, I was so dang, flabbergasted at what we saw. You know, I mean, I dropped them, I was, I was, my truck was automatics.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I didn't have to worry about jamming any gears or anything. So I had one hand on the steering wheel, and my left hand on the steering wheel, right hand on the mic that was hanging down from the spring and chit-chatting with this guy. And all of a sudden, I saw it first, and I dropped the mic. And, of course, the spring caught it. And I was looking.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And the guy told me he saw me drop the mic, and he thought maybe I saw a deer run out. And he started breaking, then looked straight ahead, and then he saw it. And by the time he saw it, it was in front of him and jumping over the medium and then watched it, you know, crossed the other side, then through the grass. But we didn't, we never, he was over the other fence before we passed the location. So we had a hell of a good look at him in the, in the full moon.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It wasn't, I guess it might have been a three-quarter moon, but it was bright out there. because there was like I said no ambient light from any towns at all there's nothing. It's just nothing out there. Did you notice any particular color that would show up for like the hair? I'm going to say I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:58:56 rusty cinnamony brown is what I saw and I got a better look in his headlights than I did mine because I was so dead dumb surprised I wasn't taking account of what I was seeing, you know, mentally breaking down what I was seeing until his headlights hit it. And I'm like, oh my God, that's a dad-cum Sasquot. And then I saw, I'm going to say Sinamini Brown. And I would say full grown seven and a half, eight foot.
Starting point is 00:59:34 by the way that he I mean no effort at all jumping over that median and then no every this thing grabbed the top rail of this fence with its left arm and threw itself over the fence
Starting point is 00:59:50 with his entire body over the fence with its left arm with just the power of his left arm and I guess he jumped at the same time but I don't know too many too many people that can do that even in my most most athletic abilities.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And I was, I played football, played tennis. I was a cave and rescue person up until I was in my late 20s. I played adult league football. I ran, when I was in school, junior high and high school, I ran cross-country track at East Lake Elementary in Uduaah High School. So I was fairly athletic. And I was a student of Kung Fu,
Starting point is 01:00:34 I love kung fu. I was pretty athletic and had an ability of agility, but never anything like that. Did you get the feeling that it was chasing something or running away from something or maybe a mixture or something in between? I just kind of felt like he was trying to get across the road. And he had somewhere to go and looking at that area where we were and looking at my notes. there was a
Starting point is 01:01:06 I can't don't remember if the next exit was Palestine or if we had just passed Palestine and but looking at my notes there are a series of ponds or lakes on the left side if I'm
Starting point is 01:01:20 going if I'm going east on 40 there was a series of ponds and lakes on the left side past the woods over there I figured he was probably going to one of those lakes for water or for food or something
Starting point is 01:01:36 was my thoughts at the time. I mean, if you look at the map, that area lines up exactly where I mean, these other sightings were seen over the years almost like they're like following
Starting point is 01:01:52 the forest corridor up and over the highway. That butts up against. If you go, I'm assuming there's private land between the right of way. Then if you go further,
Starting point is 01:02:09 if you go further northwest, looking at Google Earth, you'll see there's wildlife management that butts up right against it. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Uh-huh. And more. More? Huh. I didn't think we could feel like that again at our age. Oh, get ready, girl. Ooh, la, la. Man, I feel like a woman.
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Starting point is 01:03:51 I've learned some of the family, the importance of the job, and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 have the virus that cause a Culebrilla. Although not all the people in risk will be developed, I see the I feel the eruption
Starting point is 01:04:07 dolorous with ampollows during that even the tasks more simple be able to
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Starting point is 01:04:16 doctor or pharmaceutical patrocino for GSC many many acres and I'm telling you
Starting point is 01:04:22 the notes I'm reading from that I was looking at while I was telling you my story these are
Starting point is 01:04:28 notes that I'm looking at it right now I made these notes on the 19th day of August 2015 and I went to Google Earth then and then I went to Google Earth today.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And I had screenshots of Google Earth then and Google Earth today. And they're a heck of a lot better today than they were then. But there are a series of huge lakes, huge lakes. And on the left side of where he was heading. So that's where I think he was going. He was going for water because I don't remember seeing, I seem like I remember saying a couple of cranes. creeks on the right side of the road, but not a series of ponds or at least large enough,
Starting point is 01:05:12 at least as large as those were on the other side of the interstate. Yeah, I'm looking up, if you go further north from there, there is a pine tree wildlife management area up there. I'm looking up at Anex, which is not a sponsor, but if you guys are listening, you know, you can reach out at any time. Yeah. But Onyx is a great, uh, great tool to use too, if you have it. But yeah, there's definitely, uh, stuff for them to go to in that area. So man, I like that one.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That was a good one, dude. That was a great account. I'm still, I'm still looking. Um, I plan on going, um, this summer back to the, uh, Crawford Figeon Mountain at the The funny thing about it is, is you could name a mountain whatever you want, but Pigeon Mountain is part of, it's a leg that comes off of Lookout Mountain. And Lookout Mountain is like 2,000 or something feet above sea level. Of course, that's the very edge of the Cumberland Plateau where I live.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So I think it's only like 1,100 feet from the base of the mountain to the top. And I'm also a metal detector enthusiast, and myself and my kids were metal detecting up on up on the mountain at one time. And I had to go to the bathroom and relieve myself. And I was with two of my daughters. So I stepped off way away. And I found a little wet weather stream, which was dry at the time. And I began to, you know, pee.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And all of a sudden, I see something shiny. And I'm also a Indian airhead collector. And I've got thousands of airheads. And what I thought was Flint, that my pee was boring away at the soil was flint so when I get done relieving myself
Starting point is 01:07:13 I take my water bottle and rinse this thing off and it's a mastodon tooth and I've got a picture of it it's bigger than my palm of my hand and I got a great big hand so that part of the world was underwater at one time
Starting point is 01:07:32 and there were mastodons that lived there. So for there to be a tooth there, and I found all kinds of sea urchants and fossils and stuff up in that area. But it's a great area, and we've done a lot of exploring, and I can't hike like I used to could because my right foot doesn't have. My Achilles tendon got, your Achilles tendon is attached to your heels, and mine broke loose, and they actually fused it to the back of my ankle. So my pivot point is off.
Starting point is 01:08:04 So I can't walk around on uneven topography very well without a walking stick or at all, depending upon the elevation. So I'm limited to what I can do. But we're still looking around and listening and seeing things and hearing stuff. We have all kinds of stuff happening around our house. And where we live is wooded and sparsely populated. So I'm still looking. It sounds like the area you're in, without a doubt, there's some definite bigfoot activity there.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Have you ever talked to anyone else in the area about if they've had experiences as well? Well, I talked to my uncle, my mother's youngest brother, and he's the guy that got me in on Arrowhead hunting and taught me how to do it. he's had experiences. He's never saw anything, but he had been paced in the woods by something. And whatever it was was very, very large. And he never, he said he knew it wasn't a bear.
Starting point is 01:09:16 And the bear we have around here, they're not, I mean, a bear around here will, can kill you. But for the most part, you don't have interaction with them like that around here. But he knew it wasn't a bear. And he knew it wasn't a person because he had shouted out.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And most of us around here carry firearms with us because of, they're dangerous in the woods. So there's people that live out there that's not supposed to be. There's fugitives will live out there. There's people that have pot grows and stuff like that. And you just have to have, you need to have a firearm. And we never went into the woods without a firearm. Even when I was a kid, we had high-powered pellet rifles and knives that our parents made
Starting point is 01:09:58 sure we kept with us. And when I was walking through the woods, even on the outstretched Chattanooga, up in the woodland area, I had a pump, a pellet rifle that was as strong as a 22 that was loaded and pumped and cocked. And I had a big knife on my hip. And so just for protection, and all of us did. So it's not a strange thing for us to do that. But anyway, he said he knew that he was being paced by something. and he told me that he is
Starting point is 01:10:31 he's kind of fell short of saying it was a Sasquatch, but he said I don't think it was a person but whatever it was was walking on two feet. You know, that's as far as he would go. But I've had numerous friends that once I open up to them
Starting point is 01:10:49 about things that I've seen because I'm not ashamed. I'll just tell you, I'm not ashamed at all. I don't think a person should be ashamed or embarrassed. to tell something that they saw or heard. There could be explanations, but sometimes there's not explanations.
Starting point is 01:11:06 So tell what you see in here. And stand up for yourself and say, you know what, I'm not crazy. You know, the government, the TV, the news, everybody wants to try to make you look like you're ignorant or uneducated or whatever. But you see what you see and you hear what you hear
Starting point is 01:11:23 and stand up for it. I love that. Oh, man. And it's one of the best ways I've heard that said so far, Mark. That is amazing. You know, how do you feel about maybe sticking around a little bit longer? I know in the past we talked about in this soft off show, but you've seen some other weird stuff. You grew up in a house that had some issues going on, maybe even haunted.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And how do you feel about maybe sticking around and chatting about? about that for the members show a little bit. Hey, I'm good. I don't have to report back to work to 1 p.m. tomorrow, so I'm good. All right. I just want to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Mark's encounters aren't just chilling. They're the kind that make you rethink what's possible in the dark corners of our world.
Starting point is 01:12:17 So huge thanks to Mark for sharing these memories from Harrison Bay, Raccoon Mountain, and that unforgettable night on I-40 and for standing by his experiences, no matter what anyone else. thanks. If you enjoyed this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell icon so you don't miss new episodes and share this one with a friend who's into Bigfoot, the South, or a good old fashion mystery. And if you're listening to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, make sure you're following the show there. And if you'd be willing to leave us a five-star positive review, it really helps more people find us. Now, if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially in Tennessee, Georgia, or anywhere in the world for that matter,
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