Bigfoot Society - The Day I Made Contact With Her | Fall Creek, Oregon

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

TJ, a female listener from Lane County, Oregon, joins Bigfoot Society to share a captivating Bigfoot encounter from her youth. TJ vividly recounts her sighting at age 13 near Fall Creek, describing the creature's appearance and behavior. As they delve into TJ's story, they also touch on intriguing family anecdotes, including TJ’s grandfather's mining days near the famous Patterson-Gimlin film site. Dive into this detailed and compelling episode that offers a unique glimpse into Bigfoot encounters in Oregon.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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And now let's get on with the show. Three, two, one. All right, Bigfoot Society. You got the privilege of talking to TJ today. TJ's a listener that reached out to me through email. TJ's from the Lane County area of Oregon. Specifically, we could say about 30 miles away from Oak Ridge. So that gives us kind of an area of what we're looking at here.

But TJ, thank you for coming on the show today. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me on. Absolutely. So I think there's going to be some really interesting things that are talked about today. Just in the pre-interview, you brought up some stuff that just blew my mind. But let's start with what you reached out to me about first, which is the citing you had when you were a much younger individual, correct? Yes, I was 13 at the time, yeah.

Is there anything that listeners would also need to know about you, or is what I said enough for people to know, do you think? Just about that if I stutter or can't understand me. I have a three-time search survivors, so give people patient with me. Absolutely. Yeah, that's right, yeah. So anyway, so I was about 13 years old. They did in Salt Creek, and we grew up on the farm, and we had, specifically, we raised rabbits for a friar.

So we made our money growing up. My dad was a private farmer pretty much what it said, and we put so rabbits for the day, back then used to sell rabbits like chickens, some of his food. And we had about 15 hundred rabbits, and we had goats and all that things. And so we had found the country, so we had cow fields all the way around us. and we had a house and then about 125, 30 feet from the palace is the barn back behind us. And then we had a big old trail

that went through the cowfields about 100, 100 yards or so from the barn was the actual Fall Creek. So I would go back there as a kid and just wander around in the woods back there and all the bristles and things about the creek. And the favorite thing to do was to hunt for special rocks and things like that.

And if I get any stones with Jasper or anything, or anything like that. And I can use big rocks to crash open and open the smaller rocks. I was doing that one day. And I had this big a rock and smashing a rock. I was about, probably about 15, 20 minutes I was doing this. And now if I hear this cracking of a sound behind me to the left and to figure out it was the same sound I was making the cracking rock together.

I thought, what the heck is going on here? And we have river otters out there, so I thought maybe the river otters were eaten the river clams kind of thing, because these rocks crack a little bit of clams. And I thought, just to me like that. So I sat there to steal for a minute, and this rock and cracked against another rock against the sea. And it happened again, and a little bit louder this time. Okay. And so then I'll send that big rock fan flying by me and had been in the creek in front of me. So I freaked out a little bit and sat there and about, I'm not, and find you, I'm a

convoy. I'm not really afraid of my street from you. I was raised in a farmland and was in many, so I wasn't really afraid of much because I said a lot of time in the woods. I stepped out in the creek a little bit about ankle, means Catholic deep and I sat there and I leaned forward to look around the bushes. I see this about five foot tall or so. I was five, about five foot tall.

I was three feet, I'd say five foot because about the same height as I was. And so I thought five foot tall. And I'm looking at this thing. And now back a little bit, we had in Salt Creek and the Hills, we have these people that are called the mountain people. That's what we call them. They're just people that have gone and lived in the mountains, just regular people.

that would go into mountains and live, and they would grow their hair long and all stuff, and just be, this kind of, you know, regrets kind of, you know, and so if they couldn't afford just living in home, whatever. I thought that's what this was. So I sat there and said, hi. I thought, how my mom raised me,

being up to people, so I said, hi, and this kind of thing looked at me, and he said, it didn't say anything, but he was actually, I think it was a she because it had feminine pieces on the face, and it was, It looked like a person. And it had, and it was, had blondish, reddish hair and long hair, curly hair.

And it's nothing like I've seen portrayed in the videos I've seen ever. And it looks for nothing like I've seen. And it looked like a person, but not a person. So I knew it wasn't a person, but I could decide. So I was kind of completely good. And so then I said hi and the same kind of smirk, kind of half a mile. So I think it might have been a younger one. You know, it was only five foot tall, so I think I can imagine what age it was, but I'm sure it was a younger one.

But I didn't know that. And I thought, like I said, that was not in person. And I didn't even think about it. So then I just sat there and didn't say anything to me, but walks together, fun of themselves, herself. So I clocked my walk again, it gets into each other too. And so I found one that was really pretty. Not, it wasn't like a gem store or anything. I found, found it was really pretty.

I said it away from me to give it for her. and she didn't get close to step back a little bit like she sprayed me and I thought okay I'm still thinking my mind that this is a mountain person I just couldn't get that on my head I now know today that was probably a sask squash you know the saskwash because now I know what I saw and so I set the rock there towards her and she stepped back from me from me like she sprayed us okay that's fine you could just think I when I need you can just grab it and he can Tell you yourself. Tell me to yourself.

She said, she didn't say things, sorry. I could say like a conversation. But I thought I was having a conversation. I backed up a little bit and again. And then I made for me before my rock, so I had left for myself. And I said, you have a good day and I'll see you later. I was inside with scary because I wasn't sure what you can do or what. Or if mom and dad were close, whatever, and because you didn't know.

And so I got my rock together. I had my lapelch and I was fully backed away and making an aunt-content that whole time. that whole time. And I fell back to my way and it walked fully through the woods to the clearing and I ran my butt to the house because I did and I got my room at my house. I got my room just out there and breathed for a while going, okay, not sure where I saw or what I saw, but I think it was not in person that was scary because as a 13-year-old kid, you're not especially any people. You think you're alone. You leave on loan on this property. You think you're alone you don't think you can see anybody in the woods with you. So that's how that all went down.

That is absolutely fascinating. So I'm going to say a few things back to you. So it was a five foot tall, long curly hair. Now, was the curly hair just on top of the head? Or was it all curly hair that was covered with? No. We're coming off the head, yes. And then her hair was so shorter.

But it was all blonde just color. Like, like, I think in myself, now, I wonder for the second, down by now, kind of, because he's really light blonde. It was almost white. And there was a red spot streaks through it though, too. And yeah, it was mostly all the top of the head was wrong. And the head was the head was the whole round. I think that's why I thought it was a person because it was around her head.

And the face was not a black at all was wrong with a person. They had a bigger nose, like the spooker spunk. Your nose was mixed down a bit, a bit, and then I'm kind of wider mouth. And just, but with a real little lips, like she was a person. So, yeah, I'm not sure. what I mean, now, by now, Seattle was a juvenile sauce course. Absolutely. Did you notice anything about the eyes in particular?

They were, I think that's why I thought was female, because they were more rounder and more feminine-looking, and they were dark brown, almost black, and they're dark brown. I had really long eyelashes, like I thought. She was, I was about 20, 225 feet away. for me. Very close. And now I'm thinking myself, what the hell is that thing? But I didn't know then. I thought it was perfect. I thought it was worsened. Yeah. Yeah. And I know that I've got in trouble in front of my mom and dad. There was a person in the woods with me and I'm trying to creep on myself as good.

We wouldn't want that. Were there any white parts to the eyes at all? You said it was a darker eye? Yeah, it was that eyes were really round and big, and I didn't notice there was any white to the eyes. She did look around, but I didn't really, maybe I'm not remembering correctly because it's been 53 years ago, four years ago.

Not 54 years ago. So I don't know. I can't remember really if there wasn't any white in it, But the eyes were big and black, but they were really more round and more and more of the old corners came out. So, the woman's eye, like that's why I thought she's feminine, a woman, a girl, because more, more feminine's looking eyes. Sure. More sun down on the corners kind of thing, and a big long line of lashes, yeah. And this happened, it sounds like in the, in 1980-ish.

88. Okay. Gotcha. No, 80, 83, sorry. 83. Okay. That's what. Yeah.

Got it. Did you notice anything about the length of the arms or the hands at all? Yeah, that's one thing that I did notice that. I couldn't really, I didn't see her whole body because she's leaning out. But yeah, I just seemed that she had longer, longer arms. And I didn't know how kids things. I thought, and that's crazy. And if I lived in the woods, when all my hair girl I got too, and I thought, I'm going to ask

myself. It's like, oh, wow. hair my arms and all that stuff. I thought, I was crazy. But I didn't notice the online much, but I'm pretty sure. Now that I think that, yeah, it's very lanky and kind of spindly, yeah. Were there ears, sorry, were their ears visible? No, I couldn't see her ears.

Okay. I couldn't see your ears because the hair was so long come out to top her head. And it was almost like a, I don't know how to, they weren't like ringlets come out, but it's just long as wavy curly come up her head. First try I could spend it better for you. And then the hair went down in the back that I could see. I only saw the front of her back. It looks like the hair went down down in the back,

but then there's some hair going hanging down in front of her faces. So I think it was up. I was saying from the eyebrow from the forehead coming down. I think the hair on her head was like 8 and 10 inches. That's long hair coming off. Oh, wow. Yes. Okay.

Yeah. I was actually very pretty. that's another reason why I thought I was female because she had long pretty hair so yeah crazyness so it sounds like the entire entire subject was covered in hair were you were you able to see anything like muscles or any other features under the hair at any time yeah yeah her hair was not long over mostly i'll go on top her head like i said

but here on the legs and arms were shorter but again like blonde hair and then I can see her calf when her legs leaned out I could see her calf muscles were huge and but like I said again, Spingley but she yeah they're muscular also but an arm muscle I couldn't see

because she just said that with arm back and lean for it unless I was a left left foot calf and then I didn't and because I got scared and ran I didn't think about looking for her print or anything because I was just gave them back out there sure

and nobody would get to get kidnapped by number Exactly. You mentioned already that the mouth was pretty wide. The area above the upper lip, but below the bottom of the nose is called the filtrum. Did you notice anything particular about that? Like how long that length would have been? Was it longer than a humans would be, etc.? A little bit. Her face was longer period than a person's. Of course, not this is I'm coming to this now looking back now and think about these things and I think her face a little bit longer than a person's but the nose the upper lip I guess it was a little bit longer I wouldn't say was like overly long but I guess I didn't know all that much better like said it's four years ago but I think I'm sorry I get lost my head something oh you're good sorry but yeah I think I don't think it's not much longer a little bit longer not much But she had, like I said, regular lips.

And so she was longer, too, but she dragged it out forward a bit. I remember that part, too. And she had about an inch and a long beard hair off her chin. Sure. But that's why it's continued because I thought, as a female or male, I'm a beard. How long again do you think you had a time frame of actually looking at it? I would say between me saying hi and me getting eight gallons and backing up and going back in the back in the woods. I think about maybe.

Actually, from what I'm hearing, I was pretty long. The counter by about maybe two minutes, three minutes maybe. Yeah, it's great, yeah. Because we sat there for a while and just studied each other. And she smirked her half smile. Not, no tea sewing, but her mouth went up. But I. So she said, hi, back me kind of thing.

I was really good people kind of being serious that time left. But then again, I thought, I was a person not a question. So I thought, okay. I was loud. I did think it was person because I probably would even more freaked out if I knew it's the house. No, just like I said, a closed mouth smirk. It was all shaming. Got it.

Yeah. Did you smell anything? Oh, yes. That's right. I thought, yeah, we have tons of grunk through stuff out there. And I'm not, I smell a scar, but I smells different. That's weird. And so I didn't need to include it off.

Because we smelled small as long as I am. So I didn't think. And I didn't try blueed off. They didn't think about it. But, yeah, we had the smallest. And then they think you back. I was at home. And they didn't think about it.

I think that I smelled horrible. What was after? So, yeah, it was horrible. It was like a dog poop, urine, dead meat. Oh, yeah, yucky. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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Prices in participation vary. Were there any other sounds that you heard it make at all? Oh, yeah. She kind of kind of kind of, I told me not only she made it kind of like she's trying to say hi. I'm not sure that's what she's trying to do, but she just just, mm. And she did it quite frequently, just a little tiny, those grunts, that's all that. Gotcha. And that's the reason why I didn't think she was, that's not a reason why I didn't think she was very aggressive because she just acknowledged me.

I think there's just acknowledgment. Hi. Here I am. We're both here. We're looking at each other. You're going. I'm looking at you. You're going to be.

Okay. We're okay. What would you say the number one thing would be that told you that you were looking at a Sasquatch and not one. one of these mountain people of Fall Creek? Back then I didn't think anything different than mountain person, but now that I'm thinking back and looking, I'm thinking myself, now I'm thinking it would speak this stance, the way she stood and, but being forward and not,

like a person would stand, not like a person would stand. It was a way a person would stand, and that in the end, the longer hair, the way her face was shaped, was not person shape. They did, judder down chin and the bigger forehead and things like that. I have to see all the other examples of not necessarily, not necessarily the heavy footage, but it feels nothing like buddy.

It's very, a lot lighter skin. I won't say it wasn't light skin, like white people's skin, but I think it was more like a darker tan skin. And then, and then I don't know if it, I don't know. I think that definitely. I think I thought maybe she's more like a person because she had just looked at her. She had a question not anything else. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. It sounded like you were able to see, I'm just going to say, see her move around. Did you notice, Aang, out of the ordinary, about the way that it was walking or the gate of it as it walked around? I did really walk around. She just stood there, froze it with me for those three minutes because, yeah, she didn't really walk around. She's constantly there. And neither one of us

were to move to We could stay each other And didn't really Other than me say hi And her grunting Her little thing she did And then she didn't really move much As in that

So other than the But leaving forward to You never see me That's pretty much all she did And no no way they walked in moving anything So yeah Gotcha Remind me how the

The encounter ended again Oh I Gipped up my rock I left the lock for her Because I thought He goes, his rock, you can have one of my rocks. It was a pretty rock with anything special, but I thought it was pretty. I gave her one of my rocks and laid on the bank next to me.

You can have this one, and I grabbed it out on my little rocks in my pouch and I had fought with me. And I backed away, keeping eye contact with her, I was sure what's going to happen. And I was, I was never scared. It's just uneasy, not really scared, but it's uneasy. That wasn't true. And so I backed up in the woods and then I backed up in. Well, fully, fully, that's in the clearing behind my house and then run the house and run my room. Gotcha.

You mentioned before that the area you were living at was a rabbit farm with about 1,500 rabbits. Yeah. Did you guys ever encounter, do you think any of these coming close to where the rabbits are? Or was that, did you ever notice anything weird happening around the house? The only thing we ever, and again, we saw it was just regular, I'm sure what we thought that was, but we had gays at one point. We saw the kind of gays because they kept getting missing. And we hear the gays and I honking out crazy, freaking out, and then we'd get them to say,

we have a kiss missing. And then, but they never really bothered the rabbit barn, which I'm surprised because I figured they would be in there. And by my dad would have a manure pile, back up the barn that we would have the rubber. revenue because we sold that too for fertilizer for gardens and I had a renewable pile and you notice that there's people there was something digging in it all time so I didn't know what it was but back that we didn't have cameras we could put out or nothing but they would cost much back then but so he was how something digging in a little pile so I don't know if they were eating it or taking it for I know what they were taking it for but even if it was that and taking it I don't know but

something was digging in the moon new pile all time I thought we knew and that and they keep missing and we never I never I said, we never thought to look for any kind of friends or anything in that crap, because we didn't know they existed out there. Because this is not like in town, but it's not, it's out in the country, yes, but it's not like in the actual forest or anything. It's like we have Nester Creek and it's, you know how Oak Ridge is. Hope it's gone in the forest kind of, but down when you go down further. You probably drove past Paul Creek when you're up to Oak Ridge. So I took, I took 58 down from Eugene. So I would have been driving through Dexter, but I didn't go up on that Jasper Lull Road or whatever it's called. That's the road I lived on was Jashers'L Road.

Okay. But then, yeah, yep. So you know what that. Yeah, it might be an area I need to check out next time I go out there for sure. There's so many different things so I could check out. Were you saying. I'd have to show you around. Right.

Were you saying that how many times have you shared this story before? Just one other time. Oh, wow. Okay. To my best friend. It's my best friend. I didn't know my family or anything like anything because of the fact that I thought I was getting trouble for being in by the creek by myself. I was supposed to be out there by myself.

I talked to a lot of people when I was at the festival in Oak Ridge about sightings in the area. And there were more than a few of them that said, I had something happen over by Fall Creek or by Windberry. Oh. Oh, okay. Now, that's good. Growing up, did you ever hear any other things happening in this area as well? Never. No.

Never. Wow. Not that area, no. Extremely interesting. It's just such a stigma, and it's more so than it is now. You just thought crazy if you said, like that back then, if you thought it was Sasquash. something that got mentioned to me in passing at that festival they said that there was actually a study that was done i want to say in the 70s in that area about the

was it wild man of winberry i don't know if i'm saying that but i don't know if any listeners have any info about that but it was just an in passing thing that i heard one of the larger universities yeah i was born and raised out there so i hadn't heard anything about that guy about things. I know. Yeah. Any other, just asking, passing, any other things

you've heard about Bigfoot in that area of where east of Eugene down in Fall Creek or even down to Oak Ridge, that whole area? Yeah, and that's the funny thing is my cousins were raising Oak Ridge. They went from

Bursford to one of those who stood there and I asked one of them one that lives here in town by me And he asked me if he'd ever see anything out there, but like this one, he said, nope, never. And so I said, well, I was interesting. Because I know they spend all a lot of time in the woods, and the boys. They have three boys and four girls. And they all spend all the all time in the woods.

They have all tall boys like me. And so the girls were, right? And, yeah, they, the dump said they never saw anything. Any such question, there's nothing. Which I thought was maybe they had not time made the truth. You never know. That's. Because they don't know much for either.

You know, there's a lot of people where I would talk to them and it took them a while to open up, which is understandable. But yes, that happens sometimes where it takes people a while to open up. Now, you had mentioned something really interesting in the pre-interview that came up. And I was actually like, oh, let's talk about that later because this sounds pretty wild. and it was a story about your grandfather. Uh-huh. Do you mind sharing that with us? Yeah.

The grandfather, Russell, Soul. He was the best guy. He's just mostly nice. He used to be a minor down in, they lived in what's called Happy Camp, it's down by Hoopach, California. And so they lived in Happy Camp on the Loiseration there. And he and a group of guys where minors down there,

they mined Bluff Creek. And he had told stories to me, allegedly, that he had, his buddies were mining on the side of the creek when passing film and filmed their potty. And I didn't never realize what that was until these days. Now I see the film a potty. I'm like, what? Like, back then I didn't even saw those contacts. We didn't watch a lot of TV back then. We didn't have TV back then because that's how old I am.

But yeah, yeah. And so I thought, and so I thought, that's cool. And so I never thought he's crazy or anything. I thought that I thought that was interesting. And my uncle had confirmed that he had told us for him as a kid as well. So that was his son. And so I thought, I was telling you with that. He had some reason why to me.

He was a granddaughter or so. But yeah, and he just didn't say a whole lot about it. After then he heard this hoop and he screaming while they're running and they looked over and they saw President Drummond on their horses. And then they saw a hair from looking across the creek and they saw. And he looked over and he said, oh, my gosh, that's what they say. He didn't know what it was. And then after the news came out and I'll say that, then he knew what it was.

The chastcas they saw. So that's cool. My claim to fame. Oh, absolutely. So this is where it gets really interesting because, I want to clarify a few things, because the Patterson-Gillen film does not have sound to it, right? You've always seen it. There's no sound.

However, what you're saying is that your grandfather was mining in an area that was close to where the filming was happening, and they heard a scream? Scream, I heard of them. Tassan, the killment hollering it. So they came out here, get the old area, and then heard a crash, and apparently that was when Parson fell. Right. Right. And before they fell up, yeah. And so he was crashing in.

And then he has, are you okay? And there's all that kind of stuff. and things about that. Then he looked, and then that's when he looked over on the other side, he could have seen Patty. If he, they said saw her on the back. So if you look at my Patty film, she's looking directly at the camera. And then grandfather would be down downstream to left, but they two left more down.

That's probably a hundred, hundred, five, yeah. Oh, my goodness. So you're saying, so they didn't hear like a Bigfoot scream, but they did hear Patterson and Gamelin yelling at each other. Hey, uh. Yeah. And. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Are you also saying that your grandfather looked over and saw Patty as well? Yeah. Yeah. He did. Oh my goodness.

But from a different viewpoint. Nobody ever. And even my grandma didn't believe him. And so my grandma was like, I'll stop telling that story. And here's a really crappy part, Jeremiah. I said my grandfather, my grandmother threw away all his pictures and all the stories when she died. Oh. She thought it was all crap.

I know. Yeah, my grandma was not very nice. What kind of things did she throw away? One of those stories, like a journal, he had Cateau about it, mining and things like that, things you saw and stuff like that. But then he sees it all the way, not just, not just big stuff, but all of it. And she was just journaling and things like that. There were some pictures with him and the game, and I would try to pass on his pictures

to see if there's anything in the background to see if there's anything there. to see it because the guys were hearing now that they saw a couple other ones back in the background in the woods behind Patty so I'm wondering now if I had those pictures

I could see if there was anything in background that was pictures if there's anything any other Sasquash in there that pictures he had that area kind of thing so and I remember being in their yard

and things like because Happy Camp is very far away from Bluff Creek at all I'm sure they were on their house as well sure. I used to go down there visit with them all time. It's about six-hour drive from where we live. That's incredible. Oh, my goodness. So even if there was something that would have proved that your grandfather was there, it was thrown away when your grandmother cleaned house pretty much. Yeah, it makes me, I'll be a few of it. See, my grandmother was one of those ladies that just did her duty by the man she's with and then once they're gone. Oh, dear.

That's what they did back in the 16. Yeah. Because they were born in 19, I understand. So they were like, that's what they did back then. As was gone. She's gone. What an incredible story. As part of that story, did your grandfather ever describe Patty at all or what he saw or anything like that?

I don't remember. He really didn't describe much for anything. I think he's scared to say anything about it at all. Because he told my cousin when we were alone with him. and because he's afraid that my grandma would walk in and say, oh, shut up, whatever. That's just how I love life. BigFa Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.

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He was a little scared. Yeah. So my grandpa, yeah, she won't as for sure. But my grandpa, he was so sweet guy, though. But my cousin nine,

he was, he's sitting down his lap, and he did tell stories and stories at all kinds of different things. I should miss that guy. He's fun. He's fun.

It's a good grandpa. He sounds like he had probably the best stories. Just one of those guys. Oh, gosh. Yeah. And no matter what he told either we were on prison. He was going, what are he going to go?

What he's going to go to his next? But he's all right. Absolutely. Wow. He's great. Yeah. Incredible. And then how crazy is it that he had the, he was part of that famous sighting.

And then you about a less than 20 years later have your own. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. And I swear I really was not. I don't know if I was.

now that I knew or not, but I was better do live with a hindsight. I'm not sure. But if I knew, if I had known, if that was fast course, I'm not sure how it would have felt. After that, my grandpa had told her stories about that. So I didn't know, you know, whatever. So I didn't know. I saw the comforted him, my story from grandpa.

I didn't know. Because, like I said, he has nothing in my patty. It's totally different. Different face, different, longer. with blonde hair. I think it's so diverse. I find to the say, I believe that there's different species of black people. I think there's different types.

I believe that now. Interesting. Well, it would be positive having long, long hair and the different face shape, composed to these more squattery, black hair, short hair, and they have more squishy, short face like that yet. I don't know. I really believe that they have to be, just like animals. And dogs have, I mean, though, they're the same, they're same.

species that just different breeds kind of thing. I would have the case with Scotchwash, too. Just to double check. Just to double check, as part of the story your grandfather would share with you, was there, did you ever say anything like, yeah, afterwards we went over and talked to Roger and Bob or like we would talk to him afterwards or we had any sort of interaction with them? No, I think it happened so quick.

And I can say they were on a crew. I think they were on a timing. I'm not sure where it was, but they had to prove off all the kind of stuff about then. They had actual businesses, money businesses back then. My grandpa worked for us.

So that's, it wasn't just a, it just wasn't just a hobby thing. It was like a job. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So he, I think he, they've heard the whole, heard the L watch what happened. They're saying that that. And then he didn't say they, they talked about that.

Or, I don't know if it's my mob boss, sorry. My name boss did that. Yeah. That's funny. Many boss went and talked about. I don't know about that. They didn't, though, no.

What an absolutely fascinating story. That alone could be just, Matt could put you down a rabbit hole to try to. You think? I know. Yeah, you're like, I've been doing it. So you did mention, though, that was it your uncle was the one that would talk to him a lot about it? Yeah.

He is his son. So, yeah. Actually, it's his son. So, yeah, they go up with him. Yeah. Okay. Is that individual with us anymore or not? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. We haven't talked in years. Okay. So I'm right there. Absolutely. No problem. No problem.

Yeah. If fate has it, if they're listening, reach out. Stuff like that happens on this show. It's really weird. Connections. will come out of nowhere. Yeah, I know, it's crazy, huh? And somebody may get to show up and door and say,

how dare you? Yeah, is what it is, right? Yeah, I'm sure since I know how I'm shopping. I'm sure your grandpa would be tickled to or ecstatic to hear that his story is being shared with tons of people that appreciate it, right? And I have to thank you because it were very people like you. and he feels so comfortable in telling the stories. And so I've thought that for a long time

that Grandpa needs his stories told. He needs, I honestly thought about Rodney book about my grandpa and how, like, told him all those stories and it's all fascinating. Not just this one, but all fascinating. I think he went through and went many days and growing up as a kid and things like that. And it's just so, all so interesting.

So, but I think, I appreciate having the platform to tell the stories and get them out there. And you're right, he would think that's great. And he goes, yeah, I'm glad. Finally, let me hear my story. And they're all really excited about it. And they're going to be probably talking about it for a while. Wow.

Thank you for the kind words. That's why I do this show is so people can get their stories out. And even people that aren't with us anymore, they can get their stories out as well through their relatives that are still here. And, TJ, I just appreciate you coming on. Did you have any, you know, just to check, did you have any other things that you would want to share before we start to wind down our time together? I don't think so. I think that's pretty a shit. I just show my appreciation for you and have me on and get my stories out there. And like I said, I've been to watch the audio shows.

We just get catch up on things you've done. And every time one comes out, I have all notifications set until I can see one every time it comes out. And I love all the praise. And here's the thing I want to ask, I mean, I want to ask the listeners, too, is that once you have, once you have had this encounter, some people are like, I have seen one. I don't want to see one again. Some people are, oh, gosh, you can't wait to see one again. And I'm on the sense about it.

I saw one and my experience was so calm and just not frightening. I think I could go ahead and have one and see one again, but I'm not sure how I would feel if it would now know it was fast-gross. I want to feel about it, kind of thing. I feel fortunate that I did see her, but the same aspect. I'm looking at, do I just leave it at that and don't go see any more? Do I just go out seeing if I can see one again? But then what I've heard though, too, they feel like looking for it,

You don't see it. And if you are just paying out to nothing, that's what you see them. TJ, that is such a great thing to bring up. And I've talked to so many people over the years. And I think what it comes down to, and I've experienced this out in Oak Ridge in the woods as well, is that it's really not about going out. Oh, man, five years ago, I wouldn't even, I would listen to myself now and I'd be like, what do you talk? about but for now what I'm learning is it's not about going out there and hitting the trees or making the calls right it's about literally just have a chair sit down enjoy the nature

have the right motivation and Jen just let it happen and I'll tell you if the right people are there with the right attitudes you're going to experience stuff and it will come to you eventually and it will just blow your mind. I had it happen to me personally and I know some people are listening to this and be like, you're crazy, I experienced it. I'm telling you.

You could do that. I know what I saw. Yeah, absolutely. And I haven't had a visual yet, but I think if I keep going to, especially at this corridor area, this 58 corridor, from like Eugene down to Oak Ridge

and even past it, maybe down to Odell Lake and over to Crescent, This whole area is just crazy. I think eventually there will be something that happens. Yeah. Yeah. And the Upper Fall Creek, this place called Little Fall Creek, too.

It's upper called Fall Creek is more back in the woods where the mountain people live. I would say there's probably more settings up there too. But I would like to hear from people out there. They have any signs out there. They live out there. Oh, okay. So you're saying Fall Creek and then you take the road out to Little Fall Creek. that's pretty far out there, but it's still a community?

Yeah. Yeah. You take, oh, it's not really a community, but it's just more country. And it's going down to the just for a little road, just a little road, and then through, once you get to the intersections go towards the end of the year, you keep going. And then that's up the little fall creek, yeah. Now, are the roads up there? Are they, like, they're probably like dirt roads or is still paved up there?

No, that page, pretty far up the page. Yeah. Yeah. If you come up this way, I love to show you around and take you out there. It'd be fun. Yeah. If you ever get this out this way again. I'll keep it in mind.

That whole area, and thank you for the offer. There's so much wild stuff. Even down in the Dexter area, like Elijah Bristow. Yes. Lowell, that whole area just seems wild, too. Lowell, built, is an other place in checks. Oh, low. You're saying Lowell Butte.

Lowell, low will boot. And it's right up above dexter, up above dexter. Okay. And that's pretty much that's doing a lot of housing projects of that now, but I'm sure there's people that have had encounters up there. I'm pretty sure because I know there's one back of the day. I heard about now, but not recently, but I know that back in the day was hiding out there.

I heard about it recently, but somebody saw one out. out there. Oh, wow. Just off to the side, do you think that the whole mountain people of Fall Creek are, that's still a thing that might happen up there? Oh, yeah, definitely. And Codd Grove as well, they have people up there, too, they have people in the hills. And Cards Cove, they call them people of the hills, and Fall Creek would call them Mountain People. Yeah. Wow. Crazy. I know, I mean, it's just just, just. It's very interesting. It's scary, really.

Just not sure. And I'm not sure now. I still hear of them. And I'm not sure if they're, and it's a lot of stuff going and just like whatever happens with them. And if they don't go to school, don't do any, they just live up there. Oh, wow. Okay. So it's a whole different world and the rules don't apply.

And be careful when you go out there. Okay. I got it. You never know, right? Yes. Good morning. Jeremiah. This is called foreshadowing, right?

You never know. Yeah, when I go out there, you definitely want to have people with you that know the area. And I'm not just going out in the woods by myself, especially out in this area of Oregon. Not a smart idea. Yeah, great. Yes. Take a big man with a bat with you. Out there, it's a whole different world.

And that's why I was wondering too. And I think I said you email about this before. But I wonder why you don't hear a lot of studies in Hawaii? I think it's because it's on it, just on an island. That's a good question, right? Because there are stories from cultures on other islands, Papua New Guinea, I believe. There's other examples of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know. That's a good question. And if anyone has any ideas, feel free to share them. But I've never actually really thought of that before. I've just been like, what's a thing where they're just not there, right? Yeah, who knows? That's a good question. Even if you hear somebody who's just not talk about it,

where they're actually there and just going to leave them alone wherever. I don't know. Because they're the native people out there too. You can be a try about that. It is. It is. It has been a pleasure chatting with you. Thanks again so much for coming on the show.

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