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Episode Date: December 30, 2025

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a truck driver shares one of the most unsettling and emotional Sasquatch encounters ever documented. While hiking and practicing bushcraft in the Southern California mountains, he comes face-to-face with a massive, humanoid figure unlike any Bigfoot description he had ever heard before. What follows is a prolonged visual encounter, detailed physical observations, and an experience that challenges everything we think we know about Sasquatch behavior.Years later, during a remote stay in the same mountain region, the witness believes the same mysterious being saved his life by aggressively warning him of an approaching wildfire—throwing rocks at his shelter until he escaped just moments before the flames arrived. The encounter left him convinced that whatever he encountered was intelligent, aware, and protective rather than hostile.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere. And each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way. you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, pick for society. I've got the privilege of talking to a gentleman tonight.

His name is Arturo. He's from the South Oregon area. He's a truck driver. He's got some really interesting things that he's experienced over the years. And we've been kind of going back and forth for a bit. But his info came out of nowhere, and I'm glad I'm actually able to talk to him on air now. And Arturo, how are you doing tonight, sir? pretty good

fantastic and the road is treating you well out there yeah it's uh it's not the time of year I have to really build the snow and ice and all that so summertime is high mileage good pace so really enjoy the spring in the summer fall and winter I'm gonna be a little more cautious with other drivers and road conditions but right now it's it's a great time of year to be driving truck

absolutely just you in the open road sounds great Well, Arturo, you've got some really interesting things to share. We talked a little bit earlier today, and the stuff that you told me then, I was like, wow, this is going to be a very unique one. I'm excited to get into it. So Arturo, I'm going to let you go ahead and take us where we need to go with what you've experienced. Okay, well, it's going to be a two-part thing. the first part will be my personal experiences and what happened to me back in 2010. And the second part will be a count of a story of I know of what happened in Southern Oregon.

But I guess we'll start with 2010, my personal experience. I've always been a kind of heavier set guy. I was like about 250 pounds since high school. And a couple years before my incident, I'd been a really bad. had car wreck and ended up being in intensive care for a long time and bedridden for a couple months and like, you know, a whole year of therapy, just be able to walk good again and all that. And during that period, I'd put on about another 100 pounds. So I was really large up to like 350 pounds.

And my health came a big concern for me. And I've always been kind of into like bushcraft and survivalism. And, you know, since I was a kid watching Terminator. you know, things like that and like, you know, a lot of things like that. And then, but I was really into the wilderness and outdoors. So I decided for the better my health, I was going to start doing some, you know, short hikes and maybe getting out and practicing a little bushcraft. So I, I started to do that in Southern California. And this area between Orange County and Riverside County, there is a road that kind of divided the two counties on this mountain top.

But on the below that in the valley, there was a couple. creeks with small waterfalls and things like that. There was a, basically, a BLM road that went up into the area. So I started going there as far as I could drive, and then I parked my truck. And I was doing these short hikes about three quarters of a mile in, and I'd hang out at the creek and, you know, messing around bushcraft and practice in doing like bow drill and hand drill, starting fires and different things like dad do some wood carving and I was doing that for a while and then eventually there's too many

accidents on that mountain of people mostly like high school kids partying up in the hills and end up driving off the edge of the sides of the mountains and lay it to a couple fatalities so they closed the road down where I used to drive in to get to that area so then it became a thing of you know limitation on if I was going to hike in there became about a about five and a half to maybe six and a half mile hike to get to that area where I was hanging out. So I decided to start, you know, hiking in and bring in a hammock so I could just stay overnight or hike in, hang out for the day, you know, have a little fun, stay at the night and then hike out the next day. So I wouldn't have to, you know, try to do a 10, 12 mile hike in one day.

So I started doing that for a while, started building a pretty decent kind of permanent structure. but there was a small series of mines and caves and stuff over there where they used to look for, I think they were looking for copper and silver and different minerals and stuff, but they basically all ran dry and had got closed down. So the forager service had one in and put concrete and rebar up on all the interests to close them off. But I found one of those was a fairly good size opening. And I noticed that there was constantly a draft that pulled into the,

the cave. So I was like, you know, it's going to be an awesome location to build a little permanent structure. So that's what I did and had a little fire pit to the back I built. And really nice. I could have a small fire in there and the smoke would always draft into the tunnel and come up out the hill somewhere. So I fortified the entrance real good. It was built up real nice. And behind a big brush line, it was really hard to find the spot. And I always try to take different routes going to my little, you know, hideaway. But at the time of doing that, I had this little chihuahua mixed dog that I had gotten was a rescue.

My former employer, his wife was real big on rescuing every animal, you know, she'd find strays, bring him back and all this. But this little dog ended up being a crazy dog and a little tiny chihuahua just scared to everybody. And they told me if I could take him for a couple days, so they could, you know, find an owner, somebody would be willing to take them. And the dog ended up just like, just pawing me around everywhere, abate me and everything. So I decided to keep that dog and solve the whole problem.

And then I ended up having somebody to do my little hikes with me and stuff. But the dog really didn't like anybody or listen to anybody. Anybody got within 10, 15 feet of me or anybody at my house, he'd start growling and barking and, you know, the whole Chihuahua Yap and thing. But I started to notice when we were hiking. in when we got to a certain point where there is this ridge, my dog would always get distracted and he'd put his ears up, like if I'd call a whistle for the dog or whatever, get over here, you know, he'd put his ears up, he'd look around and he'd run right at me.

And he never did that for anybody else, like ever, not even the people who live with me. He just wouldn't respond to anybody, but I started to notice when we get to this point, he'd put his ears up like if I was calling him and he'd just go running off in the bush, go trying to get up to that ridge up there and I started bothering me like what is this dog hearing that's like attracting him so much that he's just completely disobeying my commands you know running off so you know I started you know kind of watching him more and I got to the point where he was just like he'd take off and he'd be gone for like an hour I just continue hiking towards my little buscraft shelter I built and uh I just got really noise this but I started putting him on a leash when we go past

a section. And I started to realize that like, every time we go through that section, besides the dog acting, you know, completely out of the ordinary, just completely, you know, different from his normal day to day. I started noticing I always had the sensation of, you know, being watched, you know, and then I started

thinking, oh, well, maybe somebody else has a camp there. Maybe it's, you know, there was some transit and homeless people in the area that used to camp out there, but they're more down the valley towards all where the massive amount of citrus, orange groves, and grapefruit were and things like that. So I wasn't really thinking it was that. And then I thought, you know, it's just a weird feeling.

And one day in particular, we were walking in. The ridge is above me to my left side. And it was probably about 60, 70 yards up the side of this hill was a real steep cliff. As I was walking, it was real quiet day, like hardly no wind, nothing, and everything got real quiet. And I started actually hearing, like, leaves rustling and things like that. And then at one point I saw a couple little small rocks, like, rolled down the hill. So it caused me to look up to my left, and I realized that my dog was already staring up at that direction the whole time we were walking. So I started really paying attention to that ridge to the left of me.

So I'm just like walking ahead and just kind of focusing to my left the whole time And I'm really getting that eerie feeling of just being watched. So I just come to a complete stop. I start glancing the ridge. And then that's that's when I saw them, right? And, you know, I've heard a lot of things about, you know, Bigfoot being this big giant, you know, gorilla ape and type things like that. What I saw was nothing looking like a Bigfoot, you know. And the best way I can explain it is like I grew up in the early 80s watching wrestling and Hulk Hogan and all that.

I kind of pictured it. It would be like Andre the Giant that they had from wrestling back in the day. But it looked like Andre the Giant with like totally straight hair, not curly hair. The hair had like a light red tint to it, but with a lot of gray hair, like an old man. but it looked like a caveman you know like not with like you see with like the loincloth you know

patch of animal fur over him carrying a club it just looked kind of like a nanderthal but just like really huge like Andre is a giant so I stopped I'm like staring at it and I'm like so

the photo I'm so confused on what I'm seeing I just start to slowly just keep walking forward and I'm staring up at the hill and when I'm seeing starts to walk forward to and it's and it's staring right back at me and my dog just full eye contact. I'm walking almost like 20, 30 yards staring up the hill as the thing I'm watching goes to where there's like a clearing of trees and it's not such a wide open part of the ridge.

The thing I'm watching is watching me so attentively just like I'm watching him. The thing I'm watching walks right into a tree branch that was right at its head level. and just smacked it in the head. And so I was like, what? I saw the whole tree shake real bad, and the thing let out this roar like a yelp. Like I tried to explain my one buddy. It's like, you know, like you're walking down the hallway,

you know, middle of the night, you get up to take a leak, and you're walking down in the hallway, and you just stub your toe, you know, just like unexpected pain out of nowhere, and you're like, oh, you know, you let out of sound, you know. And it was kind of like that. And then it looked stunned.

And then it looked away from me. He looked at the tree branch. It put its left arm up to where his left arm was like level with its eyesight almost. Grab the branch and it just bent it all the way back, snapped it off. And kind of scurred it away a little quicker. And it just disappeared. And then no more sound, no more nothing. And I was so confused.

I kept trying to just play back in my mind of what I just saw. I really started thinking about it and like the way the body was I just kept thinking like this was like a really old like really obese man you know I'm a big guy walking out there

I'm struggling to make this hike all the time you know and I'm seeing this other creature that looks way very very old and very very heavy set too but with a lot of muscle and what I remember when I was looking at it

So I used to work at an animal shelter probably three or four years prior to that. And we had a dog that came in that we had to quarantine and kind of put in its own separate kennel out in the field in a different area and all that. And I'm like, well, why's that dog out there? And they said, oh, well, that dog has mange. It's really highly contagious. You know, the other animals can get it real quick. We've got to keep them separate. You know, if we go in there to feed them, we have to bleach the things down.

I had to wear rubber boots and gloves and everything's got to get bleached to sanitize. But I remember about the dog having kind of like big patches of fur missing that looked all like scratched up and kind of scabby. And that was the same thing that I saw on, you know, what I referred to as Andre the Giant. And I just remember having big patches of like where it had been like scratching at itself to where like the fur was gone and it was just like raw kind of scabby. you know, nastiness underneath and it just looked like in such poor health

like I'm out there struggling and you know and I see this other thing and then I was thinking is this thing always follow me because you know he's feeling sorry for me trying to get up this ridge

up this hill all the time you know is he is like a sympathetic thing you know like when I walk through he walks through just to you know see if I can make it or is he you know somehow kind of like

sublimbly like encourage me to keep going every time that I'm you know struggling trying to get through and basically I you know he went over the ridge I lost sight of him and then I had to spend like the next three or four hours almost like trying to figure out how to get up to that spot where I I'd saw the thing you know and it was very difficult was a high steep ridge so I had to miking it hiking ahead of

about a quarter mile trying to find a way up, couldn't find nothing, where I could, because it was so vertical steep, I couldn't get up there. So then I ended up hiking back about a quarter mile backwards, and I found a little small kind of game trail, but it was still pretty steep. But I was able to get up the hillside by just like pulling on the roots of different trees and little shrubs. And I got myself up there. And I got to the spot where he had smacked his head on that branch. And, just reached up and just broke that whole branch. And the first thing I noticed that that branch was like four or five inches thick. You know, it was the very bottom branch of the tree of a big, big tree.

So it was a nice thick branch. And I was thinking, how did it snap that? And then I went closer, got up there, and I was trying to grab it to see, you know, just how stiff or whatever the branch was. That's what I realized that the branch was so high up. You know, I'm only 5'10. and I put my arm up as high as I could put it up so that, I don't know if that's another foot and a half up or so,

and I couldn't even touch the branch. I had to pull out my little hiking stick to telescoping one I had, and with it just like one slot like halfway out, so I had it had about another foot and a half or so to, you know, the height of my arm. I was able to smack that branch, and it was a live green tree. where the break was it looked really fibrous.

You can see like the fibers in the tree, like splintering open and even had like a slight bit of sap kind of oozing out by then, but it was a totally fresh tree. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. You know what I love about, Andy? Everything? Well, yeah, but it's as little as 20 bucks a month.

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a Mai Tai in your hands, and the sounds of Hawaii around you. You almost forget you're on a plane. And that's the point, because when you fly with Hawaiian Airlines, lines, it's hard to tell where your flight ends and vacation begins. Hawaii starts here. Then I started thinking about like when I'm doing bushcraft,

and sometimes I don't feel like really sawing through material to build for, you know, certain structures or for just firewood or kindling, whatever. A lot of times I'll find a tree or two trees next to each other that are kind of wedged in a V shape and I'll take dead standing wood. wood that I find it's maybe two, three inches in diameter and I'll wedge it down between the tree. And then I use my upper body to press against it and then kind of use a pendulum, you know, use a little leverage to just snap the tree. But that only works on dead trees, you know, if it's something live, green tree, you're

going to be pulling out and it's just going to bend and bend and not snap. If anything it's going to, you know, shove me back on the ground. So then I was just so confused about that. I didn't know what to do. I just looked at everything, stared there for a while, realized it was already getting pretty dark at that point because it took me forever to get up there. And I'm like, well, either I've got to keep going forward

to get to my shelter or head back to the truck, and I just really didn't feel like staying there with only having a Ruger 1022 rifle on me. And that's I used to carry a survival knife, a bushcraft knife, and a Ruger 1022. But that was mostly used for just plankton and squirrel hunting and rabbit hunting. I just had like a big fear of me, whatever this thing, was able to, you know, just completely snap that branch that by 22 was going to do nothing. So I decided to leave and I hiked back out. And that's basically the first half of my encounter with the.

with Andre. This is really interesting. This is a very unique account, you would say. I haven't gotten many like these. I'm just going to refer to as Andre. Was Andre wearing any clothes then, or was it like pretty much nothing? Okay. Nothing.

Nothing. You mentioned at one point there was fur. This individual, was it covered with fur or was hair or what? did you notice in that? It looked like kind of like my old high school gym teacher. Like he'd take his shirt off and he just had

his hair, his whole body, but the thing it was crazy. I've never seen somebody with that much hair over their chest and their arms and their neck and all that with that, you know, it's always like curly hair. All this hair was straight. There's a lot of hair over the whole body

except for like over the pecks of the chest, like where the nipple would be. It was kind of bald right there and then on the center of like where the belly would be is kind of kind of balding right there but all the hair was straight there was no curly hair it was all real straight really fine in hair gotcha is there a color that kind of stood out uh about andre well if anything i would say it was kind of like a reddish brown but kind of like uh like if you have like a chocolate lab or something. But it was like that, but like if it was really aged, like very old. Okay. Like if a lot of that hair had already turned like gray and white, you know, like if it was younger, it would have been like looking like a chocolate lab, but it just looked so old like

a lot of the hair had turned gray. It was really faded, you know. How tall would you say it was? For the height of the head where that branch was, I'm just, estimating probably about eight and a half foot up to where that branch was where it smacked its head on. Definitely. Did you notice anything about the arms, the arm length, anything like that? Well, when he put his, like, forearm up to put his hand on the branch, to, like, push the branch out of the way that it smacked its head on,

the arms still had like really huge muscles in the arms. It was like, you know, it was, you know, like Schwarzenegger back in the day, but just like a lot of hair. It looked extremely muscular. But at the same time, it looked like if it was like overweight, you know. And I'm a big guy, you know. So I was just like kind of judging off myself of, you know, how my body structure looks, you know, at that time being about three feet.

50 and prior I did do a little bit of wrestling and MMA fighting. I did use to train, but I never got extremely yoked. You know, I was never a bodybuilder, but I know what it's like to have some muscle mass with fat over it and just kind of looking from what I saw compared to that height to the like the build of my body and all that. You know, honestly, nothing had to weigh, you know, 700 pounds or something or 800 pounds at least, you know. But I did see a lot of good amount of muscle, you know.

Okay. Yeah. Were there any points where it was walking and you saw the arms, they were kind of like down by its side at all? Almost the whole way that it was walking, the arms were, you know, hanging down towards the waist. It never put its arms up until it hit the tree branch. The whole time I was walking,

it was just kind of like walking with his arms down at his side, but they're kind of slightly swaying maybe back and forth about a foot, foot and a half or so, but it wasn't like swinging its arms as it was walking. It was just kind of just swaying them side to side as it was pacing me. And if you had to imagine, like, let's imagine the hands are, you know, the arms are by the side, it's walking. How far down would the tips of the finger on the hands go? Are they going above the knee or are they going way down the leg past that?

Probably like two. Okay, interesting. Hands were massive. Were the hands covered with with fur or hair or could you see like the actual fingers and the palm? I could see I could see fingers of the hands, you know, and then I couldn't really see fingernails, though. But I do remember when it put its forearm in front of it. it to grab that tree, it looked like his fingers almost touched each other on the other side of the tree branch when it was going to break it. Because the side I was looking at, I was on the side that

I was between him and the tree branch. You know, so he put his arm up, his fingers went around the branch, and on the other side, it looked like his fingers almost touched. And when I went up there, that tree branch was, you know, four or five inches. of stick, you know, maybe six inches. I doubt it was six, but probably four or five inches thick. And as I'm sitting there, I'm holding the handle of the little walking stick that I got. And it's kind of like a bicycle grip size, you know, and I'm holding on to that in my hand. And I'm looking at it like me and my fingers wrap around my thumb, touch my, you know, index finger.

And my thumb's barely touching there, holding on that bike grip thing. And I'm looking at that thing. And I was thinking, how big is that hand have to be to go around that big old piece of tree? and touch the fingers, you know? Oh, absolutely. Did you notice, I don't know if you got the chance to count, but how many fingers it had on each hand? It just looked like a normal human hand, kind of like it did look like it had a thumb

and five, you know, four fingers. You know, I didn't see any look like extra or less that I could tell. It just looked like a human hand. Got it. You mentioned there was a time when you were actually having prolonged eye contact as you both were walking. Did you – so I would imagine that you were able to look into the eyes. Do you remember were there any whites to the eyes at all, or was it maybe all dark? No, it was like really yellow.

So we had a neighbor for a while that was a really bad alcoholic. And he had all kinds of kidney failure. And he was constantly like going in for dialysis and, you know, filter his blood off machines and all that. But I don't remember what they were what it was called. But he had something that when your kidneys go bad, stops filtering it. But your eyes go all yellow and kind of red like bloodshot looking.

Right. Or it was not jaundice or I can't remember what it was called. the, but it looked like my neighbor that was like the bad alcoholic, just really yellow eyes and the pupils were just like solid, like dark brown or black, but just really yellow and just looking like sick, like,

you know, I didn't see no bright white at all. Okay. Were, but it definitely had a pupil. Yes. Okay. Did the head have a shape to it at all?

it looked just like Andre the Giant from wrestling from back in the 80s as far of like the way his forehead came down and like his eyebrow line how it kind of came out and like the kind of wider nose on his face and everything is like really similar to like Andre the Giant. So definitely from what I'm hearing I'm hearing not like a conical shape head just like a big old head. Yes. Interesting. What kind of neck did this guy have? It was really short, almost like the head was just like right on the collarbone. Like there wasn't, I didn't really see too much of a neck at all. Did you notice any details about the forehead or the area above the eyes when you were looking at it? Just how the forehead kind of came down and then where the eyebrows were being.

It looked like, you know, like the bones, like around the eye socket were like kind of like over emphasized. Like, you know, they were really large, like behind where your eyebrows would be. Like if almost there was like a finger, like under the skin, you know, they were like, you know, not like a roll of pennies, but it was like, you know, just something way larger under the eyebrows that made that part of the lower part of the forehead stick out so far. It sounds like definitely a pronounced browridge, kind of like when you see those old movies with Neanderthals and you just got that really large bone structure right above the eyes where just kind of a roll of pennies is a good way to say it. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary about the nose? Just that it was wide. That was about it. And there was no hair on the nose at all.

I didn't see any hair on there or no hair coming out for. from the nose either. And there was like no like mustache really. All the hair was from like the lower lip downward and kind of high up on the cheeks, but there was nothing on the nose or the upper lip as far as hair. Was the nose smushed like it'd been smushed against the face?

I remember being really broad and wide and it wasn't really sticking out far for as wide as it was. You'd think it'd be like, you know, kind of proportionate, like, width to length, but it wasn't really sticking out that far compared to how white it was. Had nostrils, like, hooded. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Anything out of the ordinary with the mouth? Was it wide? Anything you noticed? It wasn't too over wide, but I kept remembering trying to look to see if I could see teeth. And then especially when it yelled, it opened its mouth, but I didn't see teeth. but I didn't see teeth.

So I was trying to see if it had like animal teeth or like human teeth, but I just never saw teeth. I remember I kept looking, try to see if I could see teeth, but I just never saw teeth. Okay, interesting. So there was never like a bearing teeth at you or anything I thought? No. No, the only, the whole time it was just, like, I don't know if I was like being watched.

Like if he was watching me, like, you know, I had like a security guard following me. Or if he was just watching me to make sure I wasn't like a threat, you know, just like he was doing security, you know, like he's the one like, hey, you need, I see you like, you better stay back, you know. But I never, during that whole incident, I never felt any threat. And even when he yelled, when he hit his head, I didn't get scared like he was yelling at me. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. This is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about.

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So I never got that fear of, oh, you know, he's coming for me, you know, anything like that. Sure. Different creatures have different ways of walking, right? Everything has its gate, its way of walking. Did you notice anything about the way? that Andre creature was walking, that you're like, man, that is really unique. There's something different about the way that it's moving. I just noticed that when it started to walk after, like, I was just looking around.

I first spotted it. When it first started to pace me, when I was like, what? I started to walk and I was staring at it. When it first started to walk, it was limping. Like, if it was favoring one leg over the other, like a lot. Like if one leg had an injury or something, you know, like if you got a cast on one foot, you know, with one of those walking boots or whatever, and you're just like walking anyways, but, you know, one's not working right.

I got you. I got you. Did it have good posture at all, or was it, you know? No, it was kind of slunched over a bit, you know. wasn't really like humpback you know like Notre Dame you know but it looked like it was the whole time it was slunched a bit forward okay

that's that's really interesting so Arturo this is this is such an interesting one and I almost have to ask like do you think you were looking at a big foot or a Sasquatch or do you think you were looking at something else. The whole thing of Bigfoot and Sasquatch never really came to my mind until I started doing research, but what I thought really, I thought I saw a caveman or like a giant, right?

Because I was thinking to Andre the giant. So I started doing a lot of research on the giants, you know, and I got found out about giganticicism and things like that. And I thought it was maybe that for a little bit, but then a lot of the research I was looking at that most people would, like Geneticism don't live that long because they're, you know, pituitary glands, whatever, their body is like overgrowing so quick that they, most people die like in their 20s or 30s, you know. And this thing was really old man status, you know, like it was, you know, a normal human had to have been 80s or 90s, you know, maybe pushing 100. So I'm like, there's no way this could be a person with genocentism because they die so young, you know, because they're the way their body overgrows and they just can't handle it and their heart gives out. So I was looking at that and then I started getting these stories about the giants that were found on Catalina Island and some of New Mexico in a cave that the natives had been battling for a while. And that kind of caught my interest because they said that those, you know, tribe of giant people that the locals had been fighting had red hair, big red beards and long red hair.

and what I saw had kind of that reddish chocolate hair. So I started, you know, I started going down that path, you know, trying to find out about, you know, these giants that had been supposedly, you know, fighting the natives and they cornered him in his cave. And instead of losing anybody else, they built a big giant fire in front of the cave to smoke them out and, you know, just kill them by, you know, carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. and so that kind of led me down that path for a while and then then from that it started turning towards cryptids you know doing research kind of and then and bigfoot came up quite a bit of times but i never really just put my figure on it that oh i saw a bigfoot because in my mind it's just you know was always the caveman you know it's extremely interesting did you ever look to see if there had been other sightings in that same area of of things that are out of the ordinary, like what you saw? Well, let me get to the second part of the Southern California thing. Oh, absolutely. Go ahead.

After that incident, I'm going to say probably, I was almost like exactly about 14 years ago to the day. Almost my birthday is, we'll just say my birthday is this week. And it was the same week of my birthday in 2010. and I had made it out to my Bushcraft shelter, I was hang out overnight, and I was actually like in the middle of a breakup with the girlfriend and all that. I was like, you know, I'm just going to disappear for a while. I'm going to go out in the woods, you know, unwind, relax.

So I got me a bottle of Jack Daniels and got me some MREs for a couple days and some freeze-dried food. I'm like, you know, I'm going to go hang out the creek. And I was out there. and Southern California has a lot of wildfires, you know, it's the same with Oregon where I'm at currently. But there was night that I was sitting there sleeping. I just finished, you know, hanging out, chilling, drinking,

and I had a little portable Bluetooth speaker with the MP3 player that, you know, you download the music, whatever. And I listened to that, and my battery died on the MP3 player. So I was like, well, I guess that's a wrap. You know, it's time to go to bed. So I'd lay down. in the little raised bed I'd built in my shelter and I had a small fire going in my shelter but like in the cave entrance part to where you know like I said the smoke would pull away and all that I'd just get a little little radiant heat little light but it was like a really hot night so I wasn't really had a big fire going so I could smell the smoke from my fire but not really too bad and I'd been laying down for about a half hour I was almost asleep and then I heard like a phone bang I put the side of my shelter I was like, what was that?

It was like if a bird flew into the side or something, and I was thinking, oh, well, there's a lot of owls around there and there's a lot of bats from the caves around there. And I was like, well, maybe an owl or a bird or something flew into the shelter. About a minute goes by, I heard another one, another one. Then it starts getting louder and it's like a more faster, just like a rapid pace of things hitting the side of my shelter. I guess to the point where I could hear the things hitting my shelter

and then kind of rolling away down the slope. So I was like, so we're throwing rocks at my, you know, at my spot? I was like, what the, and by then I had already stopped carrying my Ruger 1022 and started carrying my Glock to 45 APC with some heavy hard cast bullets, some buffalo boards, you know, plus beef, you know, some bear stopping rounds because they had recently been a lot of spottings of mountain lines in the area and a couple mountain buyers that had been attacked on the Orange County side of the mountain. So I had my pistol.

I was like, you know, I'm going to go outside, maybe just pop around off on the dirt, chase the people off and go to sleep. And then there became an urgency to it, right? As I'm, like, trying to debate whether or not to go out of the shelter and, you know, maybe yell, scream a little bit or whatever. I'm like, all right, well, something's got to be done. And so right as I'm like putting my headlamp on and turning the light on my firearm, I go to stand up in the shelter and there's a pause for a minute.

And then it rock hits my shelter that was so big, it broke the wall down. On the entry, like could be the southwest corner of my structure, but the very outside corner, there was a couple pieces of timber that came out further where I'd hang things off on the outside you know hanging gear up or swimming in the creek you know hang up the shorts up there to dry off or whatever but a rock had got thrown out the shelter that was so big so hard that it ripped that whole wall in my shelter open so all of a sudden I'm standing there

and the whole left wall my shelter just gets ripped open leans over and the boards are like still attached together because I had used used a paracord, 550 cord to lasso the walls together, but it hit hard enough where it ripped out all the paracord up and down the seam. The wall stayed intact and it just ripped the wall open like two feet, three feet open. That's when I was like, what could possibly do that? Like you had to hit it with the truck or something. So I go swing the door open to go out of the shelter and I look to that side because that's where the wall came off. It was pitch black

nothing and then I realized that there's a lot of smoke everywhere. I look back to the right. It's going down the valley towards where the road is where I hike in. And I noticed that the whole hillside is on fire all the way up to valley, all the way up to creek where my whole path where I go to get in there is completely on fire. Then fire's coming up to hill. You know, it comes uphill a lot quicker than down here, but the fire's coming uphill towards me.

So I freak out, get in my shelter. I throw on my, this Alice pack I'd gotten from a buddy, the military is my favorite pack, but anyways, I throw my Alice pack on, go out of the shelter. I'm looking around, looking around, trying to figure out what's going on. That's when I see this massive rock on the floor that's like over a foot, maybe foot and a half on diameter, laying right outside on the side of the wall, the shelter. And I was like, that rock is what broke the wall. And then I started thinking, what could have thrown that rock? You know, how that rock could have fallen off the hill would have came down and hit the roof of my shelter. You know, it's obviously thrown from an angle from like from the creek.

I'm looking at this big rock. I freak out. I see the fire getting closer. I'm just like, screw this. Started going up the valley, up the hill towards where the dried out waterfalls were. And they had a rope that was tied to the side. And sometimes in the water side, the kids will go up. there and swing off the rope and jump into the creek.

But I knew if I got to where that rope was, I could pull myself up to dry waterfall, and I'd be to an area that was only grass and dirt, and there was no trees or shrubs. You know, nothing made her to catch fire. So I made my way over there, and I got over there. And I was having a lot of difficulty firing that rope. I was looking at a panic state. You know, I'm already out of breath. You know, I just hoofed it like a good, you know, quarter mile, half a mile,

as quick as I could to get to that waterfall as the fires fall on me. Then I started noticing the hillsides around me I could see some light from the fire trucks and I didn't see a water dropping helicopter but usually they wouldn't drop water at night. Usually they only fly in the daytime. So I'm like looking around, looking around, and I finally find the rope, get up that little waterfall and I get to a dry flat spot and then I just sit down in the dirt and I'm watching the fire go up through the little valley and then exactly where that bed is. was when my shelter was that whole thing just burst into flames, rip-worn, and I'm sitting up there on the dirt,

looking, watching my whole shelters burn to the ground. And then I was kind of just like shocked at all, man, I just, all that work I've been putting into for, you know, six, seven months building that shelter, it was just burnt to nothing. And then I started thinking about, well, what threw that rock? And then right as I'm thinking that, my dog does his thing where he just kind of starts flipping out, like you hear something my dog goes taking off running again i was like duke get back here get back here and he goes took it off running kind of towards the fire and then i was thinking that was Andre that had to have been Andre that was you know throwing those little rocks at my shelter kind of like warn me and i was just ignoring it so that's when it just threw that massive rock and just busted the whole wall down to

tell me like hey get out of there you know you got to go and then that's when i was like that thing just save me. I think just saved my life, you know? Then I came over this like overwhelming, like emotional feelings where like I almost busted down in tears, almost crying. I'm just sitting there and I just sat there on that ridge all night until the sun came up watching the, watching everything burned down. And that morning once the sun was up real good, I was able to find a nice path to hike out and left. And I've never been there since. And it's been almost about 14 years since. the day. That is incredible.

I mean, it honestly sounds like Andre wanted you saved. Yeah, I can't think of anything else that would have, you know, I was capable of doing that, you know, or would have done that, you know, that just the physical ability of lifting the rock that large and throwing it so hard that it busts at a whole wall off my shelter, you know, I built that thing well, you know. Absolutely. is there a reason that you haven't been back in 14 years or it just just hasn't happened well after after everything burned down i was so confused about what andre was and all that

you know and i like i said never felt threatened by him but i was like if there's one there might be more and what if the other ones aren't looking out for me you know if this was able to do so much stuff to help save me protect my life, you know, how quick could one of those take my life, you know? All of a sudden, my 45 didn't seem like it was going to do anything, you know. So I just got real cautious and I was like, you know, I got to figure out what's out there, you know, and I started getting close to there, like, and I had a neighbor that worked in those orchards over there at the bottom of the hill. And we were talking about the fire one day. and there's an older

Paisa guy, older Mexican guy, I'm half Mexican, we were talking in Spanish. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about. Yep, that's Addy. Good things do come in small packages. And Addy is definitely a good thing.

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And then he was telling me he was like, oh, and I was something like, oh, I had a little, you know, a little cabin there and all that. And then he said, oh, we'll be careful when you're out there. I said, well, why? And then he's like, oh, well, he said, you know, that's when he said, he said, hey, you know, the mountain people were there and all that. Like, what are you talking about, you know? I didn't acknowledge anything of, you know, what I saw. with Andre and then he just said oh there's there's just some big scary people there so we just we avoid that area he's like just be careful when you're out there you know that's the only reference that I heard from anybody of you know anything being in that area wow it sounds like

sounds like he knew something was going on for sure that is really interesting I think this interview might open up so I'm not sure what to think about it Arturo. This is a really, really interesting one. It would be interesting to see what the comments are like on this one for sure. Man, I've never heard it described like that before, just the way it looks. It's really weird. Thank you for sharing.

No problem. The one that we were talking about before a few hours. hours ago. That, yeah, that one is incredibly, I want to hear the whole story of this one coming up. Yeah. All right. Well, fast forward to this actually happened like at the beginning of the whole Rona deal and all that, you know, during lockdowns and all that. But prior to that, I had been working for a sanitation company. doing porta potty and pumping out RVs and holding tanks and things like that for one of the larger companies in southern Oregon. But I had a pretty thorough background in off-roading and things like that. And the boss found out that, you know, had a lot of, you know, skills with equipment in, you know, deep woods, sand, terrain, desert, snow, mud, you know, the red clay, all kinds

stuff and I was one of the newer guys and they had sent me on a call to where a lot of people had gotten stuck in the trucks because those trucks are pretty heavy. You know, most of them we have about a thousand gallon holding tank and maybe 400 gallon freshwater tank for cleaning the units out and refilling the water and all that, but they're pretty heavy. Most of them are only two-wheel drive and drivers get stuck everywhere and the boss was just tired of paying toe bills to recover all these trucks. And then he said, hey, one of the guys said, the, you know, you know your way around off-road and all that. And I said, yeah, and he said, hey, we got a bunch of units,

toilets, this guy hasn't paid his bill in months, and we sent a couple of people out there to pick them up, but everybody gets stuck trying to get out there. You know, you think you could do it. So I went out there and lower tire pressure, use low gears and everything, and with the two-wheel drive, F-350, I got out there, got the units, brought them back, and then from that day on, after that first week of working there,

like all the rural mountain routes and all the far off locations, those became my routes. There was this valley in southern Oregon where quite a bit of growth sites, and there was a lot of gold mines, you know, a lot of claims out there, but it was all off forest service roads and little plots of private property, but most of it was in the, you know, U.S. Forestry Service and things like that off the edges of, you know, state parks and stuff. But so I end up getting this route going out to these locations where basically you go to these locations, the directions would be, you know, three quarters a mile down this road.

And you see fork in the road, you know, look for the bent tree, make a right, you know, go down to the, you know, abandon double wide, make a left. You know, they're all no addresses, anything like that. And I got real good at navigating out there. and over a point of about four and a half, five year period of going out to these real rural sites where whether they're gold mining or growing security is like of the utmost thing. Like everybody there is real, you know, real unfriendly to newcomers and outsiders and all that. And, you know, people will start driving up the hill.

And a lot of the people they get on their CB radio start talking like, hey, there's, you know, white truck coming up the hill, you know, anybody expecting visitors or we see a new vehicle or, you know, oh, there's a sheriff on the highway or whatever it was. Everybody kind of watched out for each other because they all had their things going on, you know, legal or unlegal, but everybody was real hush about it. But no matter how tight security it is, you know, everybody loves the guy, you know. That's one thing you need, you know. All those grow sites, gold mines, they all have porta-potties or RVs that need to be pumped out,

you know. So, like, you'd go up the mountain to service them, you know, some would be on a weekly basis. Some would be once a month, you know, depending on what was going on. But, you know, being the Port-a-Potty guy, you get access to a lot of spots where nobody's allowed him. You know, I became pretty close friends with a lot of these old-timers up there. And one of them, I will just say, there were a lot of old, like, Vietnam vets, and things like that, a majority of them, and a couple moonshiner's up there.

But there's one gentleman in particular that when I used to go start services site, he had an old camper trailer that had have been from like the 70s or 80s, falling apart. Just, you know, the whole roof was like three tarps, you know, glued on duct tape. He had this old Dodge pickup and just really run down camp,

but I'd go out there and he had a porta party. that I would service, and then he also had his RV that I'd pump out. And when the winter would come, we'd get good enough snow and all that, that even the customers up there would have trouble getting out, so they'd kind of stock up on supplies for, you know, a month and a half, two-month period sometimes where they couldn't get out either. But basically, the way would you get service, they'd either be on a set schedule or they'd call for service,

and sometimes they wouldn't be able to, you know, call for service, whatever, so we'd be in the area. It was kind of customer we were used to going to the boss. It would be like, oh, we'll swing by a X location, see if they need service, you know, while I'm up there, you know. And at one point, winter had started passing, and I came back up at the beginning of the next spring, and I noticed that a old guy will just say Whiskey Pete, whatever, because he did his own shine, moonshine and all that stuff, too. but Whiskey Pete, I go up to Whiskey Pete, and he doesn't have this beat-up old Dodge Ram anymore

in this 1970s trailer all of a sudden he's got a brand new Ford F-550 Super Duty 4x4 his old beat-up John Deere tractor he has. Now he's got brand-new skid steer of like a 40-foot big techs trailer with a brand-new Cabota tractor sitting on there and a really nice fifth-wheel trailer They're all brand, like all the equipment and everything on the whole site was all brand new

everything. And I'm like, hey, what's going on, bro? I was like, I thought I was at the wrong spot. And I started talking to him. And then he just told me, he's like, yeah, things have been crazy around here. You know, that's why I came to meet you at the bar. I was just sure who was coming up and their whole normal paranoid thing. And that's when I was kind of confusing.

He came down with that brand new F550. So I ended up going up there, go to pump out his new trailer and all I'm looking around. Like, too, how did you get all this stuff? And then he told me, he's just like, hey, man. And a lot of the guys want to talk to each other and a lot of things. But everybody saw me as the outsiders, like, you know, the safe guy, the, you know, the porta potty guy. So they confided me a lot of things. And he just told me, he's like, hey, man, I hit a vein.

I said, what does that mean? He's like, dude, I found some gold. I was like, you say that every week when I'm up here, you know? And he's like, no, I found gold. He's all I saw I bought all this stuff. And he's telling me that, yeah, I've already sent a lot of money to my family. And he's like, but yeah, I hit a vein. And I'm like, all right, well, cool, man.

congrats and all that stuff and I was like that was a lot of equipment you know just that f550 that's like I don't know 100,000 dollar truck you know and he just tell me he's like everything's paid and full that's when I was like man he really did get lucky and then uh when I really started like setting in and I'm like all right well you know it's going to be a while before I see him again I'm like all right well you know I dropped off a holding tank for him it's a large like 150 gallon tank you just put on the floor and run your RV to it for a little extra, you know, storage to last through the snow. And then I was getting ready to leave.

And then the guy gave me a $300 tip, right? And I'm like, sweet, man. And he's like, yeah, you know, get something for the kids for Christmas. I'm like, cool, man. I had a lot of customers who would tip me 20 bucks here and there or, you know, hey, we're barbecuing, you know, you want some ribs or something like that. But I'd never really gotten any large tips before. So I was like, all right, cool.

I pocketed it and everything. And I took off, went on route, started talking to other people. and as soon as I started going to the other grow sites and to the other, you know, mining claims, everybody started feeling me questions right away. Like, hey, what did you see up there? What's going on? I'm like, no, no, no, went up there, service, whatever,

and they're like, hey, did you see where, you know, where's the new tractor? Where's the people were asking all these questions? I'm like, what's going on, dude? Like, for reals? And they said, oh, well, we know he found gold, but he's basically closed off the camp. Nobody's come up here to the camp for a while.

He doesn't lay anybody in anymore. They're like, you're the first person who's been up there in months. He doesn't let anybody in there anymore, and he barely gets on the radio to communicate anymore. And I'm like, oh, no, you know. I was like, I don't know. He's doing his thing or whatever.

I didn't really want to talk about it. And I just finished the route, whatever. Winter ended up wrapping up. I have not gone up there for like about two months or so. I went back up there. And the gentleman, uh, was I say Whiskey Pete, uh, came at me with the offer. And he said,

hey man I've been people have been trying to rob me you know he's like I can't even go down the mountain now without people stopping me trying to rob me and then I noticed that he had a AK 47 pistol of Draco just slung over her side and he just had it on him and before that I'd see him carry a revolver once in a while you know but he was like really getting scared you know he was like really high up in intensity and he told me yeah he's like I've been doing real good and he said hey, I need you to talk to your boss about something. He's like, you're the only person that can get up and down this mountain without question. Then he's like, hey, man, and he showed me this big concrete slab with it just look kind of like a sludge and whatever shit on there with some water on it.

And he told me, he's like, hey, do you think your truck could pump this stuff up? And I said, yeah, it's just, you know, this is just no big rock. So, you know, clog the pump up or the valve. Yeah, you know, I could suck that in the tank. I was like, is that sewage or? He said, no, he's like, it's tailings, whatever it's crushed. He said, there's gold in here. So there's golden there?

And he's like, yeah, it hasn't been cleaned out yet, but there's a lot of gold in here. The guy was trying to convince me to ask my boss if I could take a load up there, just pump out this big slab with this sludge and water on it, and then take it to a, you know, undisclosed location. They said it's going to be probably about 100 miles away and then just dump out the whole holding tank. He said, yeah, come up here empty, you know, close your tank out, clean it out, come up here, just suck this whole ground up, take it to the place. He's, I'll tell your boss, I'll give him $5,000. I'll give you $5,000. I'll give you $5,000. You know, it's a hundred mile

drive. And I was like, that's sucking up this. And I was like, it's really good. I'm staring at it. I don't see any gold in there. But he's telling me there's a lot of gold in there. So I'm like, yeah, I'll talk to my boss about it. Talk to my boss about it. He said, no way. We're not doing nothing with it. Forget about it. I'm like, all right, cool. Conversation done. I went back to the next week, told him, hey, I can't do nothing, you know, maybe call a different septic company and maybe you can talk somebody else into it,

but boss can can let me use equipment. He's like, all right. So that passes in. I'm really, really like, man, this guy's really got a lot of gold going on. If he's trying to have it pumped into a sewage truck to transport it down the mountain without anybody knowing that he's bringing gold out of his site. So then I'm like, this is getting crazy with this guy that's gold, right? He's got a lot of gold, you know.

Me and myself, I went painting once or twice in the creek. I never even found a spectacle, not a flake, nothing, you know. So I'm like, all right, whatever. A little while goes on later and I'm maybe two, three months past. He doesn't call. He doesn't call for servers. He doesn't call for servers. And then my boss is like, hey, you know, why don't you go up there, take a look?

I go to go up there. The whole entry gate is like barricaded off. He's got a bunch of big boulders in the front. and then his tractor parked behind the boulders, like, there's no way I'm getting up there. So I'm like, all right, skip it, mark it off as a, you know, lock gate, no service. Go leave, winter comes around again. So now it's about a year since he's, you know, hit a vein as he put it or whatever.

And the boss says, hey, you need to go up there. We haven't serviced this guy for a while. So I get up there, I go to service him, and the gates open, those boulders removed, and the tractor is just like off to the side, almost like in the ditch, like half in the ditch. I drive up there, look around. His whole camp is just tossed up. There's just equipment laid over. All his shipping containers are open, wide open, things thrown on the floor, everything.

I'm like, what going on? I'm like, well, obviously, you know, I'm hitting the horn. He doesn't come out. And I'm like, yeah, there's something wrong here. I'm leaving. I turn around. I leave. I go to the next spot

and we'll just call this guy the preacher right? So I go to the preacher's mining claim very religious man and so is whiskey Pete and I go over there and I've never seen this guy take a sip of alcohol or smoke or anything the pastures I go over the pastures

he's sitting on his front porch this guy smashed he just hammered just like plastered drunk like what's going on, you know? And he's just crying. He starts crying. He's like bawling, crying. And he starts confiding in me that he feels so bad and he doesn't know if he's going to get into heaven now because what he's done and all this. I'm like, well, what's going on? And then he starts telling me that they lost communication with Pete for a while. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill

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just like he had already been dead for like a week or two when they found him you know the whole trailer was already smelling like you know dead flesh the body was like real bloated and all that and they go outside and they're like oh well we need to call the cops you know we need to notify the family

or call you know paramedics or somebody to come up you know come get his body and this and that and one of the guys mentioned like, hey, well, should we look around first? The other guy's like, well, he's got all this gold,

you know, it's got to be somewhere here. Should we look for the gold first? So they decided, all right, we'll start, let's look real quick and then we'll call.

And I guess it became this thing where they're up at his, at his spot, at his claim, for like four or five weeks, tearing it up, inch for inch. And that's where all that damage I fall

was everything tossed over. they were looking for his gold because he hadn't came down the mountain for months to cash in gold and they know he was bringing a lot of gold so they're like this gold has got to be somewhere so they're looking around looking around and they're thinking what if it's under his bed

you know so they told me that they literally rolled over his body on the bed at this point he'd already been dead for six seven weeks you know maybe two months at this point they rolled his body over and folded the mattress in half so they could lift up

under his bed and look under his bed for gold. They couldn't find anything under there that was gold at all. So as they were putting the unfolding mattress, putting it back, they noticed that he had his little notepad in his Bible in his back pocket and he had this little Bible he carried all the time. He'd write different things, highlight things in there and stuff, and this little notepad and they're like, oh, the notepad. So they grabbed the notepad and the Bible out of his pocket.

They're looking through the notepad and they can't really find anything, find thing and they go look in his Bible and there's like a little passage written like a note to his son with GPS coordinates and he told us for his son he's like hey I love you you know I'm sorry for things in life this and that and he's like but you know go to the spot this will change your life so they read that and immediately thinking this is where the guy buried the gold this is a coordinate's right here this is where the gold is you know there's a note for his son to get the gold this is the gold let's go look so they go back the guy yankes his GPS out of his pickup truck. They start walking around the GPS, they put the coordinates in, and they find

this spot that leads them to the GPS coordinates. They go out there with shovels and pickaxes, and it was a spot where you couldn't really get in with a tractor or any equipment. It was kind of like on the side of a hill. They get up the spot, they start looking around, looking

around, and they got a metal detector two, and then they find this rock hammer, but he says basically like, they have hammer one side's like it's a small hammer like a little balping hammer kind of but on one side it's like a little pick and the other side is kind of like a ball ping like a flat hammer whatever but they find this hammer like buried just like two inches under the dirt so like oh this has got to be it you know x marks the spot they move that hammer they start

digging at this point they'd already talked to a lot of other guys in the mountains and now there's like six dudes out there all from like 50 years old to like 90 years old bunch of really old dudes, old timers, digging with shovels and pickaxes. They get down about three or four feet, and they find a large bone. And they're like, you know, did, you know, they knew he'd have bonds with people trying to rob them. They're like, well, you know, did he kill somebody who was trying to rob him, you know, and bury the body?

And they're like, well, maybe it's not a human bone, you know, let's keep looking. So they keep digging and they start to find more bones. They're like, hey, man, these bones are like really big. And they're like, well, like, well, maybe. He buried the gold under the body, you know, thinking if somebody dug down and found a body, they're going to stop digging. And the gold's going to be under the body. You know, so they, amongst each other, they discuss it. And they're like, all right, let's keep digging.

They continue to dig a little bit more. And that's when they find the skull. And they realize that the skull is way bigger than a normal human skull. And it's not shaped the same as a regular human skull. they get all real confusing they're just discussing what to do and then one of them just says it's Sasquatch

and they all look at each other and they're like no way and they're like staring at the skull stare at the skull and they're like bury it cover it back up cover it back up so they started throwing all the bones back in the hole

put all the dirt over it they threw that rock hammer at the bottom down where they found those bones covered the whole thing up left the whole mind, the whole site altogether. They never found any goals. All of them left and decided to do a pack of secrecy that nobody's going to discuss what happened.

They're just going to wait for somebody else to find the body. They're not even going to acknowledge that he's dead. You know, nothing, they were never there. You know, everybody, you know, hush. And, but basically the, you know, pastor of the preacher was, you know, sitting there crying, bawling and just telling me about how he, you know, he's going to go to hill because, uh, you know,

the guy was dead up there and, you know, they just hit it, you know, and let his body rot away and wasn't able to, you know, the family wasn't able to grieve and bury him or anything and just out of their pure greed for gold. And he started telling me how like, you know, uh, you know, once you get a little gold in your hand, you went more and more. and, you know, the nugget is never big enough, you know,

and he starts telling me about, like, you know, how he got addicted to gold mining, you know, 20 plus years before, and I spent his whole life since, and he was just crying and bawling. I'm like, man, is this real? Like, is this true? But then I was thinking about what I saw with the whole campsite, everything just ripped up and tore up. So I'm like, man, and I was like, you know, I'm like,

well, why don't you call the cops or something, you know, or just unnoticed me. And then he said that one of the other guys had already called. and that they had just been up there like the week before and took in a whiskey Pete's body they had already just notified the nexiken and they're waiting for a nexiken to come out to the property and all that stuff

and it just kind of blew my mind that I was more blowing away and the greed of them having this dead body sitting there while they're tearing up this guy's property looking for golds and then the whole thing of them like turning the body over to look under the bed for gold because they're so struck by having to find golds

you know and the whole story of everything I thought about it you know and I was like that's crazy and then I started thinking about does such I have a dead fast watch on his property like did he kill a fast watch and bury it you know and then I was like oh man this is just crazy after that I told my boss I was like hey man I can't do that route anymore you know,

tired of dealing with the customers. It's too far between locations. You know, I don't get home until after dark. I'm just, I'm not going to do the route anymore. So I stopped doing that route and, Sanjay, I never been back since. Arturo, that's, that's the wildest, hold on.

That's the wildest thing I've ever heard on this podcast. Do you think there's a buried Sasquatch skull in that area? It could be, or it really could have been, you know, just a larger person. You know, maybe he did kill somebody that was trying to rob him after he got all that gold, you know, or maybe, you know, could have been a Sasquatch, but then I was thinking back at it, at the beginning of his property, like in Southern Oregon, a lot of people have Sasquatch things and little, like, wooden figurines, and a lot of people have this thing. It's like a big cardboard cut out.

Like, you get, like, you know, a 4x10 sheet of plywood. and they kind of cut out the outline like a big stencil of the Sasquatch. Then they painted black or brown and they screwed it onto trees. I see it all over Oregon. At the beginning of his driveway to go up to Pete's place, he had one on each side of the driveway since before, like when I just started, and it said, you know, keep out, beware, I'm watching, you know, all that stuff. But that wasn't a big thing because everybody in Southern Oregon has some kind of

saskwatch something, you know, and then thinking back to it, I do remember him a couple of times talking like, yeah, well, be careful. You know, if I'd be leaving kind of later. Be careful when you're, you know, those saskatch out in those woods and, you know, little quotes and stuff like that, but he never really told me specifically like, hey, I've seen, I've seen a squash or I killed a squatch or anything like that, but it was kind of just kind of, you know, common knowledge or just spoken normally, you know, in that general area. never really over thunk it, you know.

But then after this is, his task watch and all that, I started thinking back to like, yeah, he had a lot of Bigfoot stuff on his property, you know, little wind chimes with Bigfoot. There's different little things,

you know, Bigfoot sticker on the side of his old trailer before he got the new one and all that. So I'm like, hey, he probably was a believer, but was he a believer because he found one and killed it? You know?

Man, So many questions we will never get the answer to. Absolutely never get the answer. I bet Whiskey Pete has some wild bigfoot encounters up there on that mountain. My goodness, that is wild. It's just like a wild west up there, man. Like everybody is this SSS, you know, shoot, shovel, shut up. And that could be everything from, you know, people sneaking on to the growth sites,

getting caught in the gold mining clams, you know, they shoot you and they bury you. You know, it's like, as common knowledge, like, they never call the cops, you know. There's any problems, beasts between neighbors, hillside to hillside, you know. I rarely hear stories of anybody calling authorities for any problems that's going on there. You know, they take care of everything themselves. So the fact that there's somebody buried there wasn't really too much of a shock to me, but the fact that they said it was giant and his skull was real huge and looked different. And then they said, oh, well, the guys mentioned,

It's a task watch, and they're like, oh, they all panicked and just started burying it, you know? Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about. Yep, that's Addy. Good things do come in small packages. And Addy is definitely a good thing. Not just good. It's all.

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Can you even share what county it is in the? Well, we'll say it's, we'll say like near the border of Josephine County and Douglas County. Gotcha. This is, I got, I got to look at. Yeah, but I believe that because I, I, I'd never seen that man smoke a cigarette to any, you know, I'd never seen the preacher, you know, pastor do anything of mind-altering anything in years of going up there, you know. They'd even have little community get-togethers where they'd hang out in barbecue and

everybody be sipping on shine or, you know, hanging out, you know, smoking and whatever. He never touched anything. And that time I went there, he was just belligerent, drunk, crying, and all that. That's when I was like, man, this guy is serious. You know, something serious is going on after I had just left the other place that was torn up, you know, and I'm like, you know, I was just believing, like, him word for word, you know. He doesn't seem to like he's never seemed like a dishonest person in any sort, you know.

And the worst part about all this is I heard from the next guy that took over that route they'd sent one guy, he got lost everywhere, couldn't find any of the locations because they're real hard to find. So then they told me like, hey, you know, you want to do a ride along with the next guy that's going to take over the route so you could show him the route. And I said, no, not really. I'm not going up there no more. And so they found another guy that worked with the company that used to do that route prior to me working there. They sent him up there. And when he came down the mountain, he was talking about that, yeah, the preacher committed suicide. I said, what?

I said, I said preacher? Like pastor? I was like, you know, the, well, you know, whatever with the, you know, the yellow car and this, you know, like that guy. He blew his head off shotgun. Nobody knows, nobody knows why. He blew his head off. He couldn't live with what he did. Man.

Yeah. And I remember him just telling me how he's going to hell for. you know, desecrating that man's body and not calling the authorities. And, you know, he was just crying and bawling. And I'm like, if I could totally see him doing that just in a drunken stupor, just, you know, upset about what happened. And I could totally see that happening, you know, but I personally haven't not been back up there since.

But, you know, that's what I heard is, you know, pastor, you know, opted out, shall we say. Arturo, this is, it is, without a doubt, the most intense story I have heard in the last five years. And I don't even want to think of what's going to come from the comments on this one. I mean, I'm sure maybe other people know parts of this story that you didn't know because it happened later. And man, who knows where this is going to go next. Arturo, thank you for sharing what you've experienced over the years. This is absolutely wild.

Yeah, I've been wanting to talk about with somebody for a long time. And since I lived out here in southern Oregon, when we first moved out here, we'd move to Grass Pass, Oregon, right? So we first moved up here. And they're like, they have these big caveman statues around town. Like the tow truck company is caveman towing and the high school football. team or like the caveman or whatever like all this caveman stuff i'm like is just just rubbing it in my face you know like when i moved away from so cal i was just kind of trying to block out of my mind forget

about it i'm seeing all this caveman stuff right and i'm still on the impression that you know andrew that i saw was some kind of caveman or some giant or uh you know something like that right and i see all this bigfoot stuff all the time i'm like man he's idiots believing in bigfoot right so i'm like you idiots with their bigfoot stuff but i'm seeing all this stuff but i'm seeing all this this caveman stuff, but I would sit back at, you know, bonfires hanging out, you know, camping with the boys. And I heard people kind of talk a little, little stories here and there about Bigfoot and all that. But, you know, me personally, I've, you know, I still don't consider that I've seen a Bigfoot. I saw something else, you know, but out here, it's like Bigfoot's just

common knowledge. Some people, you know, you know, nine out of ten would be like, oh, that's a myth. And that's the greatest host of all time. It's, you know, whatever. It's just see or say, you say enough people, everybody thinks it's true, you know, and then, like, one out of ten people were like, yeah, they're real. Like, oh, my uncle had one at the back of his property, you know, and it's just, you know, common knowledge. Like, it's not a big deal, but then, like, the other nine people you talk to are, like, you're ridiculous, you know, so I never mentioned to anybody what I saw in Southern California with the Andre jokes. I just didn't want to be ridiculed, like, oh, you saw a caveman, uh, you know? So I just never really mentioned it, but I just kind of

listen to other people's stories and, you know, but out here, I've never seen nothing in Oregon. Personally, I've never seen nothing. I've never seen nothing. In a couple of black bears, things like that. But, yeah, they'll take it for what it is, but, you know, the look in that man's face, I believe what he was telling me. You know, I think you made the right choice just walking away from all that. I don't think that would have gotten any better for you. just there's there's too much too much going up in that area that is not not what you want to

mess with for sure yeah i realize you meant gold makes people crazy yeah crazy for gold such a sad story but also such i mean it's it's wilder than most of the movies i've seen to be honest it's it's an incredibly intense arthuro thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing what you've experienced over the years. I greatly appreciate it. Not a problem, I feel a lot better, you know, getting it off my chest. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain,

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