Bigfoot Society - The Galloping Albino Beast of Agawam!

Episode Date: September 28, 2025

What happens when a Massachusetts mother sees something so bizarre, it leaves her family questioning everything they thought they knew about their backyard?In this unforgettable episode, we sit down with Carrie, a lifelong Bay Stater who shares her chilling 2008 encounter with a white, orangutan-like creature sprinting across School Street in Agawam — in the middle of a suburban neighborhood. Initially dismissed as a prank or escaped zoo animal, the truth becomes stranger the more she digs — especially after hearing similar reports from the Quabbin Reservoir and beyond.You’ll hear about an eerie galloping motion, a backyard sighting by her son, and how a sudden memory unlocked years later reshaped her beliefs.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highway. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Carrie today.

Carrie's a listener of the show that reached out to me about some things that have been experienced out there in Massachusetts. sits and always am interested to hear things that have happened in that state as that's where I grew up. But Kerry, welcome to the show today. How's it going? It's going great. How are you? Doing good. We're having a good day in Iowa.

It's starting to get a little cooler. So, you know, clear skies. At that time of year. It's great. It's great. We'll probably have corn mazes up before you know it. So we like that. Nice.

Nice. So good stuff, good stuff. Great. Well, Carrie, it sounds like you've had some interesting things happen with you and your children over the years out there in Massachusetts. So you're welcome to take us back when you guys were experiencing the things that happened to you out there. Sure. Okay. This is back in 2008 when this occurred.

and I had forgotten about it. Honestly, I just didn't really think anything of it. And I was listening to one of your podcasts that you interviewed some guy Chris from Hamden. He grew up in Hamden, was talking about when he went to UMass and would go to his moms on the weekend. And when he and a friend were going back to UMass on a Sunday, the sun was setting and they were on Route 9, like near Quabin, I think. and they saw a Bigfoot go across the road. And further in that, you had asked him, hey, has anyone in your area that you know of have seen the same thing? And he was saying that some guy where his son is on his son's baseball team actually researches Bigfoot, goes looking for it.

And he told him of his experience and the guy had told him that he had seen or he knows someone that had seen an al-bibuant. I know one. And that's what triggered my memory of what we saw in Agawan. So this was back in 2008. And I lived like kind of near the river. And I was raising my two boys. And my youngest son, he was probably like 13 at the time. And he told me and my older son that he had been looking out the living room window. which I had a huge backyard and it abutted a park that had just been put in. Like the first phase of the park was put in, School Street Park. And he looked out the window and he said that you saw like an albino-looking orangutang with its arms up in the air running across our yard. And it had its arms up. Like the way orangutans run like that goofy run, he like imitated it. showed us. So my older son and I were like, uh, okay. And we laughed about it, but, you know,

my son wasn't someone that would embellish stories or make things up. So I believe them, you know, and I just thought at the time, oh, well, maybe someone's exotic pet had gotten loose or something. So anyways, like a week later, I'm in the car with my older son and we're driving down school street. We see the same exact monkey. It was an albino-looking orangutan, but it was running on all fours. Like it was like galloping across School Street. It was probably maybe 15 feet in front of our car. And it ran into like the wooded section on School Street.

And we were like, oh, my, wow, he wasn't kidding. He really did see this thing. So that's what triggered my memory is when the man mentioned that someone had seen a white Sasquatch in the quadbin. And then I listened to another podcast of yours where the guy that was living in Pelham with his girlfriend, they saw it as well in the quabin. So I don't know. You know, at the time, I thought, well, also not maybe that it was an exotic animal that got loose, maybe from Forest Park Zoo. But I never, ever remember Forest Park Zoo having an albino orangutan.

And just to make sure that I was drawing my memory correctly as far as the height of this thing, I asked my sons separately about it. And I said, all right, my youngest one, I asked him, how tall do you think the thing was? And he said only three feet. And then I asked my older son separately. You remember when we sat running across this street, he said, yeah. And I said, how tall do you think that was? if we saw it standing up.

And he said probably like three feet. So I'm going to go with that because I was thinking four to five feet. But if there's two out of three of us that are saying three feet, I'll go with what they remember. And I can send you like, I'll email you after, like a map of the area. It's not like heavily wooded, which is another thing I think like that's really strange. Like, because I didn't ever hear of any neighbors or anyone else seeing this thing either, which was weird, you know? Um, I don't know. That's, that's what our experience was.

And your podcast jarred my memory about it. And I've always been like interested in Bigfoot since I was little and not sure, like, if I believe in it or not. But I don't know. I've been on a kick lately listening to podcasts. And I am like a thousand percent convinced. they're real. And there's just too many sightings. And now with, you know, people having cameras on their cell phone,

you're actually seeing footage that you can tell is not AI or by people's reaction that there's something here. This is real, you know? Another thing that I thought was interesting, too. I was listening to a podcast a few days ago. And I don't know if you ever heard of it. to Nino from Nino's corner, but he had this guy on called Steve on How to Hunt. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, Steve is still. Yeah.

Oh, you know who he is? Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, he was on Nino's podcast. They were talking about Bigfoot, and they were talking about the cloaking issue. And Steve said, you know, like there's been times that people see handprints or fingerprints on their cars or on stuff, and it's always always. oily or people that have obtained hair samples, say it's like oily. So this feed guy, you couldn't remember who the scientist was that took the hair and put it in a peach tree dish and put it like under a microscope and he squeezed the follicle of the hair and oil started coming out.

And when he ended up putting like an electromagnetic phyllic. field to it, it turned translucent. So I found that interesting. And he said another thing that kind of connects to that is he said that people have reported when they use EMF detectors around them. And if they know they're around them or sightings, they say that the EMF detectors go off. Yes. Which I found interesting.

Oh, yeah. Oh, man, that's wild. So you've heard of that? stuff. I had not heard that other thing where there was oil coming out of the hair, which that's pretty cool. I would be interesting to listen to that. If anyone has a link for that specific interview, they can maybe put it in the comments. But yeah, that's really, really interesting stuff. I have a few questions or maybe comments about what you guys saw in Agam. Sure.

It's so interesting because a lot of people listening, if you're familiar with Massachusetts, are going to be like, that's in the middle of Springfield, which is one of the biggest cities in Massachusetts. But I would say to these guys that are saying that, look at the map. And then look at other similar things that have happened in other. large cities, such as the sightings in Omaha that are happening by the zoo. In this situation, you're right across the Connecticut River from the zoo in Forest Park, which is what you've already mentioned. This also is happening. Sightings are happening down in Kansas City, Missouri in a at least one house area that is close to the green space that has the zoo in it as well. There's maybe this pattern that is starting to arise where there's sightings that are happening in larger cities if there's a green space slash zoo with animals.

It's very, very weird. But even weirder still is that, you know, because I looked up real quick because I was curious, you know, what's the height of an orangutan if it's running? An adult female, it says an adult female is about 3.3 to 4 feet tall. an adult male is four to five feet. I think that's very interesting. I might actually even give them a call after this just to check on some things. But as you stated yourself, I mean, it sounds like you didn't see any escaped animals in that time in the news or anything like that, right? No, nothing.

No. And I, you know, because when it did occur, I thought about it. Like, have I ever heard of, you know, an albino orangutangetang at Forest Park? And I hadn't. And I don't remember back in 2008 if there was Google, the Google stuff. So then I, if there was, I would have Googled it, you know. But, yeah, I don't remember if Google was available back then or not. But, yeah, yeah.

And, you know, I wanted to ask you this, too. I remember, I think you interviewed the guy who lived in Pelham, right, with this girl. that saw the white squash and quabins. Oh, yeah. So during that podcast, you did tell him that you also had heard from another person that said a white-looking orangutan. And you asked him if he had ever heard of anybody. So do you remember what town that was from? Or were you thinking it was me that reported it to you?

Well, let's see. So the gentleman, there's the Route 9 is South. of the quabin around Swift River, that one you mentioned. And then there was a recent one I did where there was a gentleman who's also written a book. And that was around, that was around Pelham. Yeah. He mentioned the actual, there's a big peninsula there too. Some things happening around that, the Prescott Peninsula is what it's called. There's some footprints found around there. I mean, I've actually heard things all around the Coabin. It's just there's certain things that I really can't get into,

but I can say I've heard stuff just east of the Coabin and maybe other places as well. So, I mean, there's so much forest around that reservoir, as you know. I think there's activity that's all around the entire thing. Yeah. Oh, no, no doubt. no doubt so there's like stuff that people have told you that you can't talk about yeah i so just a kind of behind the scenes thing um i never there's about half the stuff i hear is stuff that people just want to talk to me about and uh they are very concerned about even having their

voice out there even if it's an alias which is totally understandable uh but yeah there's there's some things that I just tuck away in the back of my mind. And if they ever get to the point where, you know, they want to come on the show, that's perfectly fine. But, yeah, there's stuff all around the Kawabin besides, you know, I'm starting to put together a siting map on the website of things that I've been told on the show at bigfoot society podcast.com. And really, there should be dots all around the reservoir.

It's just not all this public. So, yeah. And it makes sense. like you said, because the area is so vast. And, you know, this is where I do feel bad. Like, think about it. You know, people come across this stuff where they probably don't believe in it to begin with. And then you're scared to death coming across this.

And then people think you're a whack job when you share the story of it, you know. And this flips people's reality upside down, you know. Like that's what. That's a setting for people. You know, like it, because I do truly believe there's been so many people that have experienced it. And it's not just throughout the United States. I mean, there's reports all over the world. You know, like Vietnam, our Vietnam soldiers talked about rockades from, you know, boulders.

It just, so it just seems like these things have existed or forest people. Some people want to call them forest people. And I find it interesting where some. say that some are good and some are bad, just like the human race, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Another interesting thing about your area looking at it is if you just go west, or not just west, but a fair amount, not too bad. Over to Granville, there's a ton of activity in Granville over by the Cobble Mountain area.

I don't know if you're familiar with that. Oh, yeah. And I mean, that's just outside of Westfield. So if you kind of look, I mean, they could go south of Westfield and then there's there's Robinson State Park, you know. So there's in a way kind of a connecting green space if you hop through some neighborhoods. But it's just it's so interesting that area of Massachusetts, you know, before you get over into the Berkshires, there's still stuff that goes on just outside of Westfield and Springfield. Oh, yeah, absolutely. one podcast I saw

this would be someone you probably would really like to interview have you heard of Ernie DeValle Yeah that's actually That is I had him on the show It's a fascinating account With the sign language and everything

It's episode 880 Oh yeah If people want to listen to that But no it was It was a really fun time chatting with him And his account is intense Oh it's so intense It can't even imagine

and how he was feeling like experiencing that. And it's convincing. You know, you could tell the guy's not making it up. Because I've listened to him tell the story twice, you know, and nothing changes over the story, you know. The Vogel brothers are coming on soon, which they are the ones, I believe, that created the Cobble Mountain Critter Festival

that just started up last year. So we'll probably be talking about that area again pretty soon. So that would be awesome. Oh, that's cool. Now, are they the two that it was in the 70s? There were prints in their backyard. And the prince led. I believe so.

I know they had. Because they're there are. I think they had an experience in New York as well. Yeah. Oh, okay. Because I don't know who the brothers are, but I heard of these brothers that, I don't know if they lived in West. Springfield at the time or whatever, but it was in the mid-70s. And it's funny because when I

listened to that podcast, I remember my parents talking about it when I was a kid. I was probably only like 10 years old at the time. And they claimed that they followed the prince into Aguam into Robinson State Park. And I think there was snow on the ground at the time. And then they said it was a big like media storm at the time and you know they they think that people like from either the FBI or somewhere like showed up at their house like questioning them and stuff about it but I mean this was like mid 70s you know when people really didn't talk about this stuff but yeah interesting I did do a quick search about that and it looks like you are right on the money uh with that.

that, yeah, it was in 1979. So we'll definitely, I bet we'll be hearing about that in a few weeks. But yep, Robinson State Park. So that's good to know. This could definitely, you know, connect to that future interview as well. Now, I want to double check something with you. So it was just your kids that had the siting or you as well? Me as well.

Okay. The first one could see it was my younger son. And we, you know, like, laughed about it. but then a week later, my old son was in the car with me. We were on School Street, and it ran on all fours. Like, it was galloping, like, fast across School Street. It was just in front of my car and it went into the woods. Like, from where the park would be, where School Street Park is,

and it ran across School Street into, like, where there's this wooded area that if you look on a map, it's not a very big wooded area. And, but eventually, like, you could, this thing or whatever probably could, like, venture towards Connecticut. It's on the border of Connecticut, Agam, you know? So I don't. And when you get over to Connecticut that way, there is, like, a lot of farmland and woods. So, I don't know. I'm sure if they don't want to be seen, they know how to trek through woods to not be seen, you know?

Absolutely. When you had that sighting in front of your car, so did you have a view then, like, at side view or a back view or what kind of view did you actually have? A front view. It was in front of the car. We were driving down School Street. Okay. And it ran, well, whatever, on all fours gallop, like, across the street. And it was fast.

But it was. It was all white, like an albino. So, I mean, it verified it. And I, you know, I believed my younger son anyways. He wasn't like a kid that would make stuff up. When my older one and I saw, we were just like, wow, that's what he saw. Absolutely. And so that's interesting.

So you have that straight on of you. So what you saw then, would you say it was like 100% what you've seen in pictures of an orangutan? or were there things that you noticed that were a little bit different and maybe didn't really line up with an orangutan in some ways? No, I would say the body shape and everything was like an orangutan or the length of the arms or, you know. And the thing is, like my older one and I saw it in a different position where the younger one he saw it running like an orangutan would with its arms up in the air, like that goofy type of run they have, you know. Yeah, I would say because it wasn't like, wasn't huge, you know, it was like of a thinner stature. It wasn't huge like how people would describe like a big foot or something, more like an orangutan. Absolutely.

Did it, on its face, did it have large flesh pads and like where the cheeks would be or were those not present? I just, I really couldn't tell you because this was in 2008. Oh, sure. You know, and, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and plus it happened so fast. Like, be able to really observe details like that would be hard, you know, because it did. This thing was fast. Absolutely.

The only reason I asked that is it might be an interesting clue as to if it was a male or female. As in that species, at least, the males do look pretty different than females because of that feature to the face. So that's... Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Just, I'd say, you take a minute, take a minute after this, look up some pictures, and it's very interesting. You know, usually male and females of the species look different.

But in this case, like, they do look quite a bit different, especially if you've ever. seen them at the zoo and you have like the you know the the the big older male and just like that really round face um because of the uh it's just very round looking in the the two little bdyes in the center it's it's pretty cool uh they are so amazing to watch i love watching them at the um omaha zoo it's they they are so so smart but um wow yeah they have characteristics of us oh so i'm kind of getting more of where you were trying to get at if I saw a front view. I saw a side view of the animal because he was running in front of the car across the street. So I would have saw a side view of its head, you know what I mean? But I didn't like focus so much on his head because I also

at the time I was like, wow, look at this. You know, like what am I looking at? That's cool. It is so cool. But I'll tell you one thing I recently saw too. Like, probably a year ago in Alabama. I saw an albino peacock, which was weird. I didn't even know they existed. And I had to Google that. Like, did I really just see what I just saw? And they are, they exist.

So I don't know if it's someone, because there's a lot of farmland north of Pensacola, if you go into Alabama. Okay. And, you know, maybe someone just has an exotic peacock on their farm or something. But. It's one of those things where,

where you never know, but your story is really neat for a few reasons. One of them is, as we mentioned before, in the, you know, this area of Massachusetts, you know, now Springfield up to the Coabin, there's these just reports of white creatures or white Bigfoot, and they look a little different, but that is a pattern as well. And, you know, people that are listening to this, they may stumbled onto it because it's an Aguam or Springfield, Massachusetts, and that's kind of unique. But, you know, for new listeners, I did grow up in Franklin County, which is up, you know, Northfield. And one of my goals with this podcast is hopefully someday someone will have some experience they can share from that area. I think it would be really cool to talk to someone about a Northfield or that area.

That's kind of just a personal goal for me. But have you, as a child growing up there, have you, did you hear any reports? Has anyone seen stuff? No, no. So the funny thing is, like, I used to watch weird shows with my dad, right, like in search of and stuff I thought. I wasn't really into it, you know? So I missed out on a lot. I only got into it in my probably like mid, maybe mid to late 20s.

I don't know. What got you into it? What's the third year? Oh, it was just, I was in Iowa, and we found out about a local cryptid out here that flies. It flew around a town called Van Meter in the early 1900s. And so I got into that. I got involved with a documentary that was being filmed by Small Town Monsters. And at the last minute, they had me do the interviews for it.

And I was like, I really like this, like a lot. I'd never done interviewing before. I was like, I love this. And so that. Oh, you're gifted. Well, thank you. Thank you. I'd never done it before then.

This was back in 2018, 2019. And so, yeah, after that, I was like, yeah, start my own thing. and started a podcast and it worked out really well because it was the next year was when people couldn't leave their houses. So it was easy to get a hold of people. But it didn't transfer over to Bigfoot stuff 100% until probably a year and a half to two years ago. And then I decided to focus 100% on talking to witnesses that had seen what they think is Bigfoot or something similar and giving them an area. to share what they've experienced. And that's been, I mean, that's just a whole different rabbit hole.

And I've been able to go to Oregon and all sorts of places and have weird stuff happens. Oh, that's cool. Good for you. Now, when I've looked at some stuff, too, what are they called BFRO or the Bigfoot Research Association or something? Or BFRO? Yeah, yeah. I saw that, they see. the most sightings, credible sightings, have been in Washington State. Do you agree with that?

Well, you know, so BFRO is or Bigfoot Field researchers or organization. Great organization because, you know, they're one of the ones where they're putting everything on a map and documenting, which is great. I don't know. So I would say I agree with them that if we're saying that Washington is the place with the most. Yeah, totally. I don't know about most credible. I think you can have credible reports from, I mean, really anywhere in the U.S. There's nothing, I think, from Hawaii. But other than that, I mean, you can have credible reports from anywhere, in my opinion. The most reports, I would say definitely it's going to be in Washington State from what I've seen. So I would agree with that. But, yeah. So they do. They do a lot of work, so they're good. Yeah, it's good that people are researching it, because this is another thing that kind of bothers me, too, is why is it being hidden? You know, think about that, because I've also heard, like, in eastern Texas, if you come across them, you're considered lunch.

Like, you've got to be careful. So, you know, why is this being hidden where it could actually be a danger for people that want to go hiking or think about the appellation? control how they say people go missing all the time. You know, like, I don't understand why this is being hidden. I agree with you that it does, a lot of times it feels like there are people that know more than they're letting on. And I think we are at a point over the last few years. and this is because you know

thankfully there are a lot of different shows that are focusing on this and the way I look into it is if you keep putting stuff into a bathtub eventually it's just going to overflow and you can't control it right it's just going to be everywhere

that's what I kind of picture is you know you've got all these different shows and you're getting these actual like when you have interviews and you're actually interviewing a witness and it's like very like it's a very truthful account because the person is actually sharing it. It's not like a, you know, you also have like people send in reports and they can be read, which is great. But I think actual audible interviews are good as well from the witness.

And I think if we keep going with that, eventually more and more people are just going to be more comfortable like, oh, I can share now. It's okay. Everyone's doing it. I've seen that happen over the last few years. I think it's a really important thing that people realize that, hey, it's okay to share what happened. I'm not going to be looked at as crazy anymore. I'm not going to lose my job. Yeah, that there's something to it.

Absolutely. Yeah. I'll tell you, when I talk to people that I believe in it now, that I kind of get laughed up to. You know, like, there's still people that are like, no way. Oh, I do too. I think it's not as much as it back in the day, but I've had a few people that kind of just walk away, which is fine. That's, you know, how they want to react to it. But I'm having a good time, learning a lot. And I enjoy talking to people like yourself, Carrie. But, you know, thank you so much for sharing what you experienced back there in 2008, you and your kids. And it's just another interesting thing to know about Massachusetts. connect some dots and just thank you for coming on the show today. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you for calling and interviewing me. And keep up the good work. You're

awesome. I love the work you do. Thank you so much, Carrie. Hey, if anything else ever happens out there or you hear anything where you're at, feel free to reach out and I'd love to check in with you. Okay. Thanks, Jeremiah. Take care. You too. Bye-bye. Quick follow-up for this interview. I was able to reach out to the zoo across the Connecticut River about if they've had a white or albino orangutan. And I got the following information back.

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