Bigfoot Society - The Hidden Secrets of The Owl Moon Lab with Tobe Johnson (Remastered)

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

Note: This episode was released on 12/18/22. It's so good I had to remaster it and re-release it.Hint: for a fun time, have Google Maps up on your screen and notice the areas Tobe is talking about. It... really links up with some recent Bigfoot Society episodes.In this episode I chat with Tobe Johnson, Bigfoot researcher, author and podcast who shares with a small peek into the mysteries and unknown that is the Owl Moon Lab.https://www.youtube.com/ @OWLMOONLABhttps://www.bigfootdoc.comNote: This interview barely scratches the surface and you must read the book to get the full story, pictures, video, interviews and so much more.Pick yours up here: https://amzn.to/3DrzN7D (affiliate link)Also, make sure you check out the documentary "A Flash of Beauty" if you haven't already here: https://tubitv.com/movies/678213/a-flash-of-beauty-bigfoot-revealedShare your Bigfoot encounter here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:48 Does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early and ad-free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. links to those are in the show notes. In Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far. So let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Tobin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You may have heard of him from the Owl Moon Lab. How's it going, Tob. It's good to finally meet you, Jeremiah. Thanks for having me on. You got it, man. Oh, allow me to, I'm going to spend a few minutes talking about I want to talk about Alamoon Lab just a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's a really good book, dude. Like, I picked it up a few days ago, and I started reading it, and I was like, maybe this is spread out over a few days. And it was like, boom, no, got to keep reading it. Got to keep reading it. It's well written. Also, I love how Doug Hitchack puts in the QR codes. You've got these little Easter egg evidence things spattered about.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You've got sounds, you got videos, you got interviews. It's just, it's the most amazing book reading experience. And hats off to you. It's a great book, dude. Appreciate that, Jeremiah. Yeah, it was the QR codes came at the behest of Doug's son. I believe it was Blaine Heichick, who's infamous for being in the Snell Grove episode of Monster Quest. And it has taken off.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I think there's another book in the works through their publisher that Dave Ellis is doing. And I think they even have a name for it now. I think they're calling it like embedded sound technology or something like that. So it's a really cool concept. It adds a lot of fun to a book to where it brings you back to those choose your own adventure days where books are interactive. And I had already embraced trying to do a YouTube channel the same venture where people could choose my adventure for me.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And I thought, shoot, I can't do all the things I love to do. So this is good. Let's just embrace writing this chapter down of my life. It's tough once in a while getting any feedback from people when you do an artistic venture like that. And sometimes you don't necessarily want to know the published feedback. I'm a new author. For me, it was their new publishing company. So for us, it was just us doing what we love.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And Doug is such, if there's one person people need to hang out with, it's Doug, Blaine, and Alex. the hijacked in O'Trio. Absolutely. He definitely knows his stuff you can tell. Owl Moon Lab, holy mackerel. If I was listeners, in October, I hope you take this right way. But listeners, remember how when you were watching Hellier and you're like, wow, this just gets crazier and like twists and turns and stuff you didn't expect in synchronicities. And if you like that, you're really going to like this book.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's in the same family of stories. Totally different, of course. But if you dig Hillier, you're going to dig Alamoon Lab. I just kept getting that same vibe, which as a big compliment. Yeah, I was a big fan of that documentary. A lot of people haven't seen it yet. Go watch this documentary. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's like a two-part saga. Forget anything on Netflix. Forget Dahmer. Go watch Hellier. When we were in lockdown, Hellyer was happening. And for me, it was just so much. deja vu of how they were building this unexpected synchronistic narrative and it was just something that everybody was affected by and everyone was affected by this story in the same way because when you find out
Starting point is 00:05:48 that magic is real and that it somehow dances in the world of bigfoot that's something that a lot of people can't get behind. And maybe not everybody should. This could very well be something only meant for specific people during a specific time. And I think this was my time. I love that. Let's take a second and let's make sure that the listeners are on the right page with what they need to know about. And that's the crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:06:20 You've got so much going on. What do you want people to know? You've got so many things you could throw out there. Oh, man. I was just a fanboy like everybody else starts out 2008. I start a podcast called Bigfoot Air. It is based upon my passion of looking into the mysteries of the Pacific Northwest, growing up just right outside of Eugene, Oregon, go ducks.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And so I was tapping into Talk Shoes' wavelength, which was really the beginning of everything else we know is podcast. And I interview a guy named Henry Franzoni, who's an author out of Washington State, a scientist that work with Peter Byrne and a guy I believe he was named John Glickman. And they did a $5 million comprehensive study of Sasquatch underneath Mount Hood. Now, this is a little bit of a long story. However, the concentration to talk to somebody like Henry and pay attention to what he said
Starting point is 00:07:14 really was on deaf ears on my part because of the fact that I didn't know any of these players here. Peter Byrne seemed like this guy that to me, he smacked. of one of the Vegas, as far as like being a Goodfell or something, like he was bigger than life. This guy was rock star Vegas stuff. Totally. For Henry to be attached to them, I was a little bit of a fanboy talking to these guys. And then they pretty much just told me Henry did.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Is it like, hey, slow down. You can experience this stuff yourself. All you have to do is go out and find a place on the map that has a spooky, scary name. hence his book Spirit of Seattle. And so before Google Earth, before any of that, I just hopped on an old-fashioned map in my trunk and just started picking out areas that sounded crazy. And that kind of led to meeting these witnesses along the way that I write about in the book. And I call these people extended experiencers of Sasquatch interaction.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Totally. These EESIs were what I was trying to seek out, but I didn't quite know how to do it. And so that took me getting to know more people like Henry Franzoni and Tom Powell and Ron Moorhead. That advice you just gave was awesome. But I want to unpack it a little bit more. So let's say a listener wants to do this. And they find like Skookham Lake, Iowa, which is not a place. But so they find.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And then what's the next step? Do they start talking to people in that town? Do they start to go into like bars in the town be like, hey, does anyone know any stories? Yeah. What I decided to do was going to the bar and do monthly meetings. And just very assumingly suggested to, this was during the 2000 real estate crash, housing crash. So a lot of people were hurting 2007, 2008. They didn't really know it yet, but they were.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And so on a Wednesday night, once a month, we would have monthly, basically like Bigfoot A&A meetings. People would show up, grab a pint, not saying I don't have one here myself. We're sitting there once a month telling these Bigfoot stories, and it turns into a thing, right? This is the beginning of the town hall phenomena. And so in a little town of Lieburg, Oregon, I would have people start coming up after the show, after the eyewitness testimonies were over
Starting point is 00:09:35 where roadside crossings are the most popular type. I would have people come up to me after the show and putting away the PA system. And they're saying, hey, this is followed, me home and we've got stuff happening right down the highway from us here. Those are the kind of stories that I had been hearing three years prior to me doing these live events. And we skipped a lot of territory along the way here. However, I think it's important just to get into the meat and potatoes, which are these Sasquatch contactees, which probably is a better suited name for what
Starting point is 00:10:09 we're talking about because much like the contactees of the UFO world, these people are no less affected. In fact, there's cross-contamination between the forensic evidence and the anecdotal experiences, witness accounts. For that reason, if I had to do it over again, I probably would have gone with that name there, but maybe that's for part two down the road. So that's what I started to embrace, or these people stopping me on the way to the parking lot and tapping me on the shoulder saying, hey, this is much weirder than that guy was saying on the stand up there. And they followed me home and so that's where things really start taking off. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:10:54 When I was reading your book, that is also that idea you had where it's like, how do I get to these people? How do I hear the story? Make a hangout town hall in a local pub and they'll come to you. And that is so smart, dude. It wasn't trying to connive a way to do anything. It just was synchronicity. With the fact that there was a witness at a pizza parlor,
Starting point is 00:11:21 and this witness was really eager about his close encounter. And he was our first witness. And so it's just, you know, my adrenaline to meet these people that had this backyard big foot phenomena like Sally Shepard Walford describes in her book, Valley the Skookum or Julie Scott describes in her book from up here in the Olympics Peninsula, where they're talking about the phenomena coming to their own backyard and that this is much stranger. And so I wanted to get to whether or not this was true because it seemed as though it'd be very easy to debunk. And this could just very well be a flesh and blood answer and cross-contamination for maybe the UFO phenomena.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And I thought maybe they have the two worlds confused. But secretly, I was hoping it was way cool like this actually is. And boy, oh boy, was, I know, I guess Tom Powell was right. Morehead was right, this is a much cooler phenomena than the average flesh and blood Bigfooter would ever have you to believe. That's awesome. And I'm just going to ask you straight out. What do you think Bigfoot is?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Oh, we're going right to it. Why not? I've asked, I guess in a sense, I get into it a little bit in the book. And the quick answer is I think there's some kind of land spirit. They're both. They're physical and non-physical. there as the Native Americans have tried to tell us, in some cases, warn us about that this phenomena is a spiritual journey of some kind. And it's a part of that spirit journey, just like all of these other phenomena that you can't put in a box and you can't photograph and you can't.
Starting point is 00:13:04 There's no amount of, look at the Pentagon right now, just everything they're going through right now to say, listen, this is so strange. It just isn't. If we're to believe what's coming out of Lou Alizando's mouth and Jeremy Corbell's mouth and what's going on at Skinwalker Ranch, there's some interesting crossover between the Al Moon Lab and all these power spots in Utah. And secretly, we called this place a skin twin. There's so much information being thrown at you in a hot spot. And I think for far too long, these places have been overlooked because they've been discounted as, well, that can't be Sasquatch evidence. That's something else. And I get it. Although, look at where we are. Look at where we are today with what we have to actually show our colleagues in the university.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's not really moved a whole lot until I say this UFO stuff started popping up. Now we're in different categories and you go to these conferences and you see a lot of people at these UFO conferences hearing Bigfoot conversations going, stopping people in the parking lot and saying, hey, it's like this too. Yeah. And the thing is that it's not, I don't think it's far out of the question to connect UFO and big, look at, for example, Stan Gordon in the Chestnut Ridge area of Pennsylvania. Like this is not just like this has happened in other areas where there's connections between UFO sightings and Big. foot sightings. Like, yeah, I think there's something to it for sure, too.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But I understand, and they're right. The flesh and blood world is absolutely correct when they blame people that are looking at the paranormal to solve all of the gray areas. And I talk a little bit about in the book how intolerable it is for me to deal with these people, not only at conferences, but just watching them online and share their evidence and it's not very good and it's just easy to debunk. However, we have quite a bit of forensic data that really hasn't seen the light a day that has been looked at from people from all different backgrounds that aren't big footers. Wow. And it was collected in some really
Starting point is 00:15:24 strange circumstances. And now I find myself sharing it with people from Utah, people like Darrell Sims, right, who looks into alien abductions and implants and things like that. We're coming away with a lot of private conversations that say, hey, there's some interesting cross-contamination here going on with these phenomena. I don't know how we've missed this. So I've looked past the giganticis answer here and been happy that I've done that because, hey, this is a lot more fun when you're digging into the truth and not shutting down and sequestering all of these witnesses and saying,
Starting point is 00:16:03 okay, tell your story this way, and this is going to go online this way. If anything the last three years has proven to me is that silence does not reveal the truth. And if anybody's trying to shut you down and shut you up, woe to yourself. To hang out with them for very long
Starting point is 00:16:19 because they have an agenda. And I have no agenda. There's a lot that we've debunked along the way about our own story and figured out because it takes a while to debunk, to debunk stuff, sometimes it takes years. But I've invited at least 20 different people to come to this area,
Starting point is 00:16:39 and at least five of them now have adopted this area as their own. And now they're having their own experiences. And that's just the kind of legacy that I think should be left behind when you're looking into this. It's just total transparency and honesty and try to be light about it. Wellness, longevity, health is a lifestyle. Every week a new trend explodes across the media landscape, and depending on who's talking, it's either a miracle breakthrough or just expensive hype dressed up as science.
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Starting point is 00:19:26 hear What was the first situation where you realized, I'm not really sure what's going on here. Like your introduction to Bigfoot, was there a certain time you can pinpoint where it's like, what is going on? Yeah, the evidence was coming in basically immediately when I started doing things on my own. And one of the first places I went was at the behest of researcher Autumn Williams, who had researched an area called Bohemia, which is east of Cottage Grove, Oregon. And that's where the Al Moon takes place. And she basically called this mountainside, her research area, it's where mysterious encounters had filmed a couple episodes with Matt Moneymaker, Doug Icheck produced it. And she started showing me the area.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I didn't live too far. I lived like an hour away, maybe an hour and a half. So I would get up in that area. I was working for UPS at that time. And I came back with some interesting evidence that, yeah, they seem to be up in the cliffs there. There's what looks like a fresh nest in the back of a cave on a vertical cliff about 1,500 feet up above this old mining town. And that got me thinking, okay, so there, she's not chasing imagination. There's something physical going on here, and the miners are talking. Now the locals are showing up at these, bigfoot and beers that were happening and they're telling their story about the bohemia area
Starting point is 00:20:56 and so that got me thinking as far as okay i can invest some time and money and effort into this as well and so i did i started going to pretty much first of all i would just knock on people's houses or if i saw them sitting out on the patio watching traffic like literally people would be how i don't know if people do this in the country in your area but in the country in cottage grove they'll sit out on their Davenports on the patio and they're way traffic. This is like the retired thing to do. Yep. And if they have a Sasquatch carving in their front yard, even better.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And so all those things were confirming to me. But the first thing that really happened that seemed to shake up the waters for it just being a flesh and blood issue was the discussion of the lights. Someone had said to me, a close gal friend of mine, researcher Beth Heikinen, said, you're going to see these lights, man. And I said, well, what do I expect? She goes, I don't know. They're in bigfoot areas. They can be small.
Starting point is 00:21:58 They could be large. But generally, they're short and they're fleeting. And they're alive. I'll never forget. She said that. She goes, they're alive somehow. They're organic. Don't think UFO.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And we were up above this area where we did Bigfoot and Beer, a place we called Oz. Yes. And it was in that extended experience or connective issue where I had two different houses that basically said the hill behind us is active with Bigfoot stuff. And they gave me permission to go up there anytime I wanted. And that's when one night I saw this huge light above the hillside above this abandoned helo pad launch. And it was just a magnificent white star being born in the middle of the forest. There was so big, so piercing,
Starting point is 00:22:51 bright, so close in front of the tree line, less than, I don't know, probably about 150 to 200 yards away. And it was just like a pyrotechnic. It was like a Van Halen show. Like you expected to hear a boom or blast sound. And it stares stepped up through the tree four different times. And it was just like, here you go. Here's another one. And it took about 45 minutes or so for this to happen. And And so we kept coming back to that area. And eventually I would try to stay the night there and my tent would be moved 49 feet. And it was stuck in a tree. That part messed with my head, dude.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. That was wild. But see, now that could have been a crazy landowner that I never met. Yeah, but it's 50 feet. It's up in a tree, though. I moved 49 feet and it went up about eight feet on top of a rhododendrum bush, which our roadies are like trees. Yeah. But everything was facing the right way, right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 My maps and my tent fly had not blown away. They were still 49 feet where the tent was. Candy wrappers, Snickers wrappers should blow away or whatever. And then we saw more lights. And it just got to the point where the neighbors are just like, we see lights too and they're coming in our house. Whoa. The big foots are involved with this.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They're like sitting there watching my kids in the bay window. And I don't know what to expect. Now that we have these lights and these silhouetted. giant monkey men sitting Indian style watching my daughters that refused to take a photograph. And so that was the spot. Like that gave me permission to say, okay, so I'm not going to discount any more claims of paranormal Bigfoot. And then I had something run up behind me that sounded like an elephant on two legs in the middle of the day between these two houses on an abandoned skid road where there was this fresh
Starting point is 00:24:50 bisected vull that had no predation marks. It looked like it had been pinched and separated and placed on the single trail I just came in on. And this is a thing, right? Along the way here, we'll be mentioning things that I don't hear a lot of other bigfooters talk about, but little tiny moles and vols set up in the middle of trails, mice. It's a bigfoot thing. I'm not saying bigfoot does it, but it's a cause and effect thing. If you look into it, it may erupt something to happen.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And in this case, I had what I thought was an upset landowner come running behind me on two legs, right? Like an 800-pound man and stop just as I turned around. And it was only 12 inches or so from that last footprint, which makes the ground move when it's running. Wow. So that was, what do you do with that? I knew what to do with that. For me, it was the ultimate appeal of an endless mystery. I knew that immediately these things were never going to let me solve it,
Starting point is 00:25:53 but I could have one hell of a time living and embracing that world from time to time. It's just, and that's when the book started, I was reading it, and that, the Oz part in all that. And I was like, oh, my goodness, what is going on with this book? And then it just keeps going just wilder and wilder. And, oh, man, it's just, it is literally like the stuff you're bringing up. It's almost like you're experiencing these like Skin Walker Ranch type areas in the Pacific Northwest, which is just, it's mind blowing, dude. They're all over.
Starting point is 00:26:36 They really are something special, but I don't think they're unique. Just like Bigfoot. Bigfoot is special. I don't think it's unique. Telling the stories, what you're unique. unique. Seeing these things is not unique or having an experience. It's just not. I don't believe that for a second. I've talked to too many people. They've seen more of these, I think, than Cougars. These are just as rampant as UFO and ghost sightings. The problem is that nobody wants to talk
Starting point is 00:27:06 about it because you have Bigfoot on bumper stickers and it just sounds like the most goofy thing in the world that you saw Wild Monkey Man. And then you add in magic to the element. It turns into this other area of the looney bin. And so you just can't care what people think. You've got to find your own tribe to hang out with and just the rest of them be damned. You just got to embrace the weird. What's the end goal for you with all of this research? Is there a goal you have in mind where you reach that point and you'll be like, okay, I finally, like, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Oh, gosh. If I could see what Adam Davy saw, that'd be a pretty good, I'd be okay. That would be a good like drop off point, not drop off like end at all. But if I could have saw what those three gentlemen saw, because I talked to him that night when that happened. Do you mind refreshing the listeners on what that scenario was? They, they're up in an area well known for Matt Johnson's habituation area, which you called Soha. and Adam Davies and John Carlson were there to debunk Matt's claims, and they saw a portal open up and two creatures enter and exit the building,
Starting point is 00:28:28 or the building, the opening. And it was very specific on what they describe. It's in his new book, which came out only a couple weeks ago, I believe it's called Portals and Monsters, and it talks a little bit about that encounter. that's a very it should change this conversation and it just hasn't
Starting point is 00:28:50 because of the fact that it's so crazy sounding. But that's something that I don't know that they necessarily ever want to talk about it. I'm talking about it now because he's written a book about it and they've done a podcast and I think it's an important part of Bigfoot lore. And I thought we would see something like that at the Al Moon.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I really did because it was getting to the point where we weren't backing down and I'm sleeping right next to the phenomena 24-7 for almost a year straight, not getting much sleep, just totally concentrating on seeing a moment like that happen. And we got a couple of interesting photographs, but I never got to see something like that happen. And I think along the way, we're going to have to embrace the idea of there being invisible doorways, window areas or portals. It's certainly what they did at Skinwalker Ranch, and that's part of the Pentagon's investment and looking into Skin Walker was descriptions of seeing Sasquatch enter and exit glowing
Starting point is 00:29:56 portals over the mesa. They said they saw werewolves smoking cigars with fedores on. The Pentagon did not back down from that, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah. This is a much more interesting phenomenon. than just Bigfoot and Bluff Creek. It seems like there's all,
Starting point is 00:30:16 it seems like there's all these different areas starting to pop up around the country, really. And it just, it feels like something's going to happen and it's all going to get tied together. I don't know. It just, it feels like it has to someday. But I don't know, we'll see. Maybe that's part of the allure,
Starting point is 00:30:36 trying to put all the strings on the right dots and figure it out. Do you mind sharing a little bit about you alluded to how things were just getting crazier and crazier in the Owl Moon area? What kind of things were experiencing? The whole area is it has so much history to it as far as Bigfoot and UFOs and ghost. And maybe because it's the shape of the land, right? I don't know if I spoke about this in the book or not, but the geology of these places here,
Starting point is 00:31:09 They talk a lot about Bigfoot habitat, but they don't talk about geomancing, which is a type of looking into magical ramifications for geology and doing things in that geology to amp it up. And so maybe some of that stuff had happened previous to even the white men or natives being there for that matter. And what I mean is that it was in a parabolic dish shape. And you'll hear Dr. Travis Taylor talk about. Just like the Ointa basin. Yes. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So those parabolic dis shapes are all over the globe and they're hot spots. They're also where there are conductive waterways, copper veins, quartz. Yes. And in this case, a lot of gold and iron. And so those going down one of the main rivers and the cottage grove on two different subsections of the Umpqua forest. And maybe that's why. I know the military is really interested in doing flyover. of both of those areas there.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Skinwalker. Skinwalker? I'm not quite sure. As far as the military is concerned, there's been some interesting vehicles that we've seen for a long time, blacked out SUVs. And a lot of fighter jets,
Starting point is 00:32:27 probably going out to Nellis, probably going out to Area 51 or coming out from the Pacific. And they'll tilt their wings periodically from a pretty low altitude to let you know that, hey, we see you in your boat out there fishing. We're one of you. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But there's also black triangles that have been seen over the Coburg Hills at less than 500 feet off of I-5. And this Coburg Hillside, I was actually chased. I don't know who chased us out. But when you're chased out by five black SUVs around two in the morning and you have your son in the back seat with his neighborhood buddy, they're just going out for a lark going bigfoot. crazy neighbor, right? Yeah. And we get chased out by black SUVs. That was not in book.
Starting point is 00:33:13 No, because I, yeah. It was connected a little bit to the area, but it wasn't Al Moon proper, really. It was in a different area, but. Wow, five SUVs. Yeah. And maybe we just got too close to, I don't know, maybe pot smugglers are up there or whatever, but then I've had people tell me that they've seen power lines going into the mountain in that area that don't make any sense that they, these giant power boxes.
Starting point is 00:33:38 end at this road and there's power lines going into the mountain. That was told to me by a DJ that's well respected out of Eugene, Oregon, a guy named Bill London. So interesting area, but very unassuming, like it's a college town. It's Oregon duck country. It's hippie country. It's left-to-center politics country. And then it's a mill town. Wellness, longevity, health is a lifestyle. Every week, a new trend explodes across the media landscape. And depending on who's talking, It's either a miracle breakthrough or just expensive hype dressed up as science. Enter Kara Swisher. She's here to cut through the noise with her signature edge.
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Starting point is 00:36:16 it and so to add all this other stuff the paranormal
Starting point is 00:36:21 or Bigfoot there was really no tolerating it in and around Eugene
Starting point is 00:36:26 Springfield so I had to re amp these live events that I was
Starting point is 00:36:31 doing and that's where I started to go went to this little bar called the Axon Fiddle and Cottage Grove and said, you know what, I'll just start these up again under a new name, new bar.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Same premise that we're going to get locals to tell their crazy stories. And they didn't really as much as I was hoping that they would. I actually had to bring people in on the big screen and do Zoom meetings like we're doing. And I was never really that happy with it just for that fact that, Cottage Grove wasn't embracing it as much as I was hoping they would. Sure. But then I met Daryl Adams, who totally embraced the phenomena. And he said, in fact, I'm retired.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I live in Cottage Grove. I've got nothing but time. And if you want to move in and research this with us, go right ahead. Come research Bigfoot at our house rent free. Wow. And that's where when you start to, in the, book when you start to have that connection with Daryl, it just seems like that's when it just it almost switches gears and like the stuff that you're hearing on that property. It's so hard
Starting point is 00:37:49 and I'm not even, I wasn't even involved and it's hard for me to wrap my mind around. I can't imagine what you guys are thinking when you're hearing. Pretty much you're hearing EVPs. You're hearing the sides of the buildings get, get slapped up against all different types of not just Bigfoot activity, but also like almost paranormal activity, you would think. And it's like, how do you explain that?
Starting point is 00:38:12 In 2012, there was a large trackway cast in the drained out Lakebeda Cottage Grove Reservoir. It was found by a guy named Max Roy, who was a used car salesman. And he liked to fix up. cars at barn finds basically. So while he was traveling along London Road in Cottage Grove, Oregon, he was walking along the bike path there,
Starting point is 00:38:39 the Warehouser Road actually, which is now the bike path, looking at old cars and barns on the side of the road and got tipped off by this weirdo in a rain slicker with a dog that said, hey, there's weird tracks down there. I got some pictures of him, so I don't know, be on the lookout. Wow. This started what was called the,
Starting point is 00:38:58 London trackway. And so my son got a knock on the door from this Max Roy and said, hey, I saw you had a Bigfoot sticker on your Jeep. I've got these photographs of these Bigfoot tracks. If you're interested, maybe you want to go look at them. And so that phone call from my son with those photos there really set the tone for the Al Moon Lab in 2018. So between 2012 and 2018 was basically five years of me he's saying, okay, cottage grove is a lot closer than the places I've been going to. I'll just start investing all my time talking to the locals down here. And so I got to know the area based upon this trackway. Now, the trackway itself is still a mystery.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's under dispute because of Cliff and Meldrum's opinion on what the forensics show of that issue. But there's over 122 tracks five feet apart for over 100 yards. and there's some interesting anatomy that's never been addressed as far as I'm concerned about that trackway. But now Tom Powell owns the majority of the tracks. Sure. It is what it is with the trackway. Regardless, the area still persisted with Bigfoot reports. People were telling me they saw what they call a blue-eyed spider.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So what's that look like? And it looked like a spider crawling on the ground eight feet long with these glowing blue eyes. Yeah. And then someone with one of the neighbors would eventually tell us that he saw an upright blue-eyed bear advance on him while he was getting his kindling. So I'm hearing all this glowing blue-eyed stuff of this creature crawling around. There's a board-certified psychologist, along with a guy named Chris Manir, who's a BFRO guy, another guy named John Bull, all behind the Al Moon Lab. Four of these guys, I'll see, I believe, three Bigfoot in the moonlight, very close, totally. shaken up by what they'd seen.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And the stories just kept getting bigger and bigger. So fast forward to 2018, and here's this guy named Daryl Adams, said, hey, come play Bigfoot with me and you can research full time. I was a truck driver in those days. And that's when things really took off at that invitation. Oh, man. It's just, it's wild. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And then it seems it doesn't really let up. either you read the book and it's just like it almost did it feel like when you're researching that area that things kept escalating and escalating or how did you feel i knew it was lightning in a bottle when it happened i had the hindsight of looking at the rest of these researchers cases and i just thought it would end a lot quicker so when i got my recorders out and the cameras and moved my trailer on the property there. I thought, this is probably going to blow over in 30 days. I can't imagine it being prolonged like it was.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So I just kept waiting for it to all go away. And it was still really cool. We found these giant knee impressions, which seemed to be plus or minus 1,400 pounds with anomalous hairs coming up out of the red clay, tree structures above the knee impression. or what look like tree structures, certainly there was something weird in the trees
Starting point is 00:42:30 or on the trees above those knees. And then we're getting confirmation from these flesh and blood people that, yeah, there's evidence to these impressions. A, you're right, they're from an extremity, and they look to be knee impressions. And these flesh and blood people are telling me, hey, this hair is anomalous.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I've looked at over 200 other hairs that people have sent me throughout the years. Yours is number five or six, and I'm willing to write your report. I'm like, okay, but wait, hi, I'm crazy, Tob Johnson. Nice to meet you. Do you still want to work with me?
Starting point is 00:43:04 And they were saying, yeah, because I've never heard or seen anything like this, or if I have, what's valid. And this is what I would call good to go. So I was really happy for the fact that we're bridging this gap with people that wanted to
Starting point is 00:43:20 just look into the evidence, no matter how much weirdness was connected to it because the weirdness would start coming immediately when we would get these knee impressions. We would cast them and we put the on the garage. And once the knees sat in that garage, it was like a business card saying, hey, we look into weirdness and we're happy to serve you. And it all just came right down the hillside or up the creek.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I don't know. I remember a part of the book where it's, I think you have a realization that, oh, no, I've got a ton of Bigfoot hair in the garage and that could be pretty much attracting the craziness to him. It's, why not? Oh, nice. And here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah. That one, I believe, is off of the door. It was attached to a greasy handprint that almost bent like rubber. And this greasy substance for a long time, big footers have been overlooked. as just being slimy mud or ash. A lot of people say it's just dust or ash. But there's more going on with these handprints. And thank God for someone like Doug Hichick and Billy Covington, Montana,
Starting point is 00:44:39 because now this stuff is being appreciated as being highly different than mud or ash when it attaches itself to something like a painted door. You can't get this stuff off. You can't scrub it off. Eventually, you're going to have to repaint it again, especially painted things like cars, doors, plastics, because it changes, it mutates the polymers, according to Doug Highcheck at a molecular level, and it destroys and degrades it, especially plastics and fabrics, like a tint. So we would find these things almost coming. They were set the stage for you here. The knees were inside this locked brand new shop, which was big enough to be.
Starting point is 00:45:24 parked two RVs and had a brand new cement floor. My trailer is parked outside and all that's surrounding the trailer and the garage and the main house is a small patch of yard and a bunch of gravel. And so to get from A to B, it was gravel, very little grass and sidewalk to ambulate around. So you should hear something coming. So when we would set out our audio equipment, very few times did we ever get the sound of anything approaching, although we did, and it was pretty incredible, a couple different times. But when you find large, greasy handprints,
Starting point is 00:46:02 twice the size of any given man, that are slimy with red or black hair attached to it, and you can see the palm striations, and you can see the friction ridges and the dermals, and you can appreciate that. You know, someone's hoaxing you. They're going through an extra effort here, just like the London tracks.
Starting point is 00:46:23 The last time I heard about the London tracks being hoaxed was a landscaper that said he did it and a pair of diving flippers. This was far beyond diving flippers and a landscaper. This was someone setting up, I don't know, 3D printing their hand
Starting point is 00:46:40 and then expanding at 50% and making a rubber casting and then getting hair that looked like Sasquatch hair according to Cindy Dosen and getting a lot of work. Yeah. It would just been an elaborate hope.
Starting point is 00:46:51 to the which I would have been proud to meet them afterwards and say, Bravo. And I still would too with the London tracks. Whoever, if someone does take credit for that, I would like to know who they were and see how they did it again because they went through so much work to pull that off. And they knew so much about attributes of Sasquatch. In the same way that someone hoaxed any evidence at the Al Moon Lab,
Starting point is 00:47:19 they know so much about the reported behavior and including this Albavernik stuff. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. So the Owl Moon Lab, you no longer have access to that area, correct? We do have access to the area behind it and in front of it. Mostly it's behind it because that's where the reports come out of the woods behind it. Because the main property, it was sold, correct? to own. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah. For no spooky reason. Okay. It was just sold because of a job opportunity on Darrell's wife's end. Sure. Do you, are you, do you still have communication with that landowner at all or pretty much no communication? The last thing I heard was Darrell got a phone call or he,
Starting point is 00:48:12 no, he saw, they saw them at Walmart. Okay. Where everybody has their Bigfoot reports. So he sees the new homeowners and they're talking. just saying, hey, I think we're going to move again. And not the new owners, but Daryl. And he said, hey, anything weird happened at your place? And they said, yeah, something like a huge man in the dead of night ran across our front patio.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Oh, no. That's the way they accounted for it. Now, I can tell you that I did go there. We filmed on site. They allowed us 48 hours while they're on vacation to film Part 2 of Flash of Beauty. So when Flash of Beauty is this documentary that I've been a part of for the last two years besides this book. And so part one came out Memorial Day weekend this year. And it's an interview.
Starting point is 00:49:03 It's a witness perspective of how Sasquatch changed their life. And part two looks at the paranormal Bigfoot phenomenon. So we got permission to stay on the property for two days in film. And there is some interesting stuff that, I saw myself. Now, we didn't have anything happen. Large rocks that I remember showing up in places, showed up in places that they played off. Bird feeders were taken off of branches and set weird spots.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Those are the small little nuanced things that we paid attention to, these little totems or little gifts that were tributes of some kind and set in weird spots. And that's really how the Al Moon started for us is by paying attention to. the sounds and the little tiny things that had happened and saying, oh, that's out of place. Let's definitely talk about Flash of Beauty. One, it's one of the most beautiful documentaries I've seen in a long time. It's just, it's extremely well put together thought out. I'm curious, how was it that you got set up with being involved with that documentary to begin with?
Starting point is 00:50:18 of Ron Moorhead was talking with Daryl Adams, the property owner at a private function called Beachfoot. Ron at the same time was being approached by this production company about what he knew about the Sierra Sounds. And they said, hey, I just talked to this guy named Daryl Adams. And he's researching with a guy that, and that's how it happened is really Daryl showing up at Beachfoot. That's awesome. Yeah. Oh, man. That's.
Starting point is 00:50:47 it is all about who you know and of course beach foot helps too well it's all about showing up like people that don't show up to these things because uh personal issues or they don't like to stay at functions or whatever you have to go to these places like these conventions and meet people because that's how you exactly have the snowball effect start happening and you increase your game And so Darrell would show up at these events with or without me or I would show up at some. And we would just always cover each other's back with this story. Hey, we have these knee impressions. Wellness, longevity, health is a lifestyle.
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Starting point is 00:53:34 to the one about your doctor or pharmaceutical patrocinated for GSC. And now there's this weird stuff happening around these knees, it seemed like.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And so the production crew came down and we're no frills. We're sitting on the tailgate as they had a camera on us and Daryl had already sold the property and this has long since the story when it's fullest had really happened. And so we're retelling this husband and wife team, Jill and Brett, and their cameraman Mike. and their jaws just hit the ground. And they didn't know how weird the story was really going to get. And I said, don't take our word for it. It's right down here about a mile away.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Do you want to go see? Wow. And that's when I was just like, you guys are okay. You can go down there. And so we just gave him the keys to that kingdom. And so that's when things started to happen with them. them without us. And that's when I'm super relieved that, you know, we did that because we had over 15 or 20 people come to this place and all have a story of one sort or another to tell.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And just to clarify, you were talking earlier about you're able to be at Al Moon Lab for a few days to film. That's going to be part two. Yeah. Coming out next year, Memorial Day. Memorial Day weekend, yeah. Oh, man. Which will be, I can't not promote this. Yes, please promote anything you need to. The premiere is going to be in Forks, Washington, home of vampires and werewolves. Yes. And the premiere will be on Saturday evening.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Doug Hichick has signed on to be one of the keynote speakers, as well as Cliff Barrickman, Tom Powell, David Ellis, who helped with a lot of the Al Moon sounds. I would not be where I was with the audio clarity. without David Ellis of the Olympic project. Absolutely. There's going to be some surprises there as well. So there's going to be a, as far as I know, and this is the first I brought this up, there's going to be a debate. Hopefully for Friday night.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Really? It's going to be a debate between the flesh and blood and the paranormal side. And we're going to host a fair and balanced conversation between two different hosts, myself and a gal named Nancy. And we're going to have a conversation about this on first. Friday night. So it should be a lot of fun. And this is, all that is just for the premiere. There's a, there's going to be some other things happening besides the premiere.
Starting point is 00:56:16 This is, part two is so crazy. I've seen who they've interviewed and you've never heard of these people. You've never heard their stories before and what they've brought to the table is so crazy that it, you thought part one was controversial. Wait, do you see part two? That's why I love part one. I was writing down names left and right because I was like, who is this person? Obviously, this person has way more of a story to tell because it's one documentary.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You can't talk to one person forever. But some of these people I've never heard of. And I was like, I got to know more about this person and their story. Like, it was so good the people that they had. So I can't wait for part two then. That's amazing. I wish I could say who's promote these people early because they deserve to be promoted right now for their books that are out for their information. information that's out, but you just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:57:08 But I'm so excited that we were able to talk to them. And especially at Phnomicon, the people that we got to talk to is like, what? Yeah, so very cool. Are you still raising money for this film? Yeah. Yeah, if you go on to Flash of Beauty, mainly if you just go to the Facebook page and look at Flash of Beauty, there's links on there. there's also an Instagram account. If you go on to Residence Production,
Starting point is 00:57:38 resident, Resonance production company, there's also a link to the Flash of Beauty, Kickstarter, crowdfunding that they're doing. It's such a good film. Everyone should check out Flash of Beauty. I'm blown away.
Starting point is 00:57:55 So is there a conference going along with that premiere? Oh, literally. Yeah. Yeah. So it's the second annual Sasquatch days. Okay. Forks Memorial Day weekend. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And so it's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday gig. That's great. There's a Bigfoot store across the street. Yes. There's always a lot of twilight stuff happening there. Oh, yeah. Forks is now turning into a Bigfoot twilight. I don't know what that would be called, like a bylight or something.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Forks is beautiful. I'll share a little bit into my personal history, but I'll just leave it as we've We've taken a trip out to Forks for maybe Twilight related reasons back in the day. But it's a beautiful area. And I remember my favorite part, actually, our favorite part was going in the whole rainforest and how beautiful. And that was before I was into the Bigfoot stuff now looking at it through the Bigfoot lens. It'd be like, of course you've got Bigfoot in that area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:53 No question, dude. Yeah. Crazy. I have a question for you. And this is going to. So you mentioned Henry Franzoni earlier. Are you as big a fan as I am of his 1990s Bigfoot documentary? Have you seen this thing?
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh, yeah. Holy mackerel. And no one knows. No one really knows about it. Sasquatch Odyssey or? It's like, it's a really weird name. But it's on, I saw it on Tooby and it's, it is so good. It's just, yeah, we're so 90s.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yes. Yes, that's a good way to put it. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. In fact, I remember renting it from a place called Flicks and Picks on Willamette Street in Eugene, Oregon. It was in the same spot you'd get a racer head. And there was Henry's doc.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And I was like, what's this? Wow. That really was my in search of with Leonard Nimoy was seeing that in the early 90s. Who is this cool-ass hippie talking bigfoot right now? So one, he's fantastic. I got to talk to Henry someday just because like in in Flash of Beauty he's talking about like how he's like on the inside and able to talk to the different Native American tribes. And it's just, it's blowing my mind. But I don't know if you remember in the documentary, do you remember the older gentleman who's like living out in the trailer?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Oh, Henry. Oh, Renee DeHendon? No, not Renee DeHendon. No, it's not Renee DeHendon. But it's like this older gentleman in the Pacific Northwest and he's like out in this logging area in a weird trailer. I'm going to have to see it again. It's literally been since the 90s since I've seen it. It's worth another look because it's just, man, these people all have stories and, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Did you say it's free on Tubi? Yeah. So free on tube. So the thing about Tooby is there's someone at Tooby that loves Bigfoot because there's at least 20 or 30 Bigfoot movie. documentaries, and it's all free. And Tube's not a sponsor, but check it out, guys. Including Flash of Beauty. So if you want to watch it for free.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Bring it around. Is there a way you can watch it where you support the makers as well? Probably? The best way to support it is to leave a review at this point. And if you want to rent it or buy it, you still can do that on different platforms. But if you're just dying to see it and see some of these new faces, because it's important to mix it up with this conversation. And we have a psychiatrist talk about Sasquatch in a way that's never been talked about from the ramifications, the emotional ramifications of having a paranormal.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Let's just call it that because nobody believes Bigfoot's real except the people watching this right now. So the paranormal, right, is a big friend. And even some of them don't believe. I'm not going to name James wink. So having an encounter with something that shouldn't exist. has extreme ramifications on emotional distress and how you compartmentalize the rest of your life. Because, you know, we always like to say
Starting point is 01:02:08 Bigfoot encounters are somewhere between striking the lottery and accidentally seeing a death or something happen. A traumatic experience to where it's horrific and yet it's the luckiest day in the world. And somewhere in between that is your Bigfoot encounter types. And so the difference is that you can tell someone that you won the lottery and that you saw this horrific death, but you can't necessarily tell anybody about this real event that happened to you. And if you do, the consequences are totally different, even from medical science, from health and behavioral science, looking into this phenomena has consequences of how people judge you and what they may prescribe you. 100%.
Starting point is 01:02:53 100%. In the time since Aowl Moon Lab, your book has come out, have there been other things that have happened to you? Another way I could ask this question is, will there be a part two to Al Moon Lab that comes out eventually? I will never just write a book to call it Al Moon Lab, the Extreme Edition or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. I can't even, I'd have to fake something in order. to bring that out. I would love for there to be a sequel to this based upon where the evidence is going.
Starting point is 01:03:33 But honestly, since the pandemic, things have died down. Sure. And they're just now starting to come together in a way that I think is really interesting. So, unfortunately, the last three years have taken the wind out of the sales as far as research. But I think the next three years are going to be pretty interesting. I love that. I totally understand. And we all were, that's the thing about, that we all were there in one way or another.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And but the next year's, I think stuff's going to keep happening. We can't wait to hear all about it. Tob, thanks so much for being on the podcast. Do you mind before we wrap things up, do you mind sharing how people can best keep up to date with what you're doing and all that? Oh, sure. I'll be at the Topinish Casino coming up here on the 21st and 22nd for the Bob Gemlin researcher, the Year Award. If you're near Yakima, Washington,
Starting point is 01:04:26 Flash of Beauty will be shown, and we'll have a table there, and I'll have some of my personal items for sale there, including some wood sculptures that I do, that have some interesting qualities to them, and you can meet the production crew. That's coming up on the 21st and 22nd next week, October. And then, of course, fast-forwarding to Memorial Day weekend,
Starting point is 01:04:48 the second annual Sasquatch Days and Forks, Washington. tickets are on sale now. You can go to Sasquatch the Legend. And I think tickets are like a lot cheaper at this point before they go into full ticket price. And so it should be a great show. Again, that will be part two coming out, the paranormal Bigfoot. And beyond that, I think it's really focusing on how the audience receives and reviews part two based upon opportunities that will happen. I know that we're going to try to be at the Phenomicon. in Vernal, Utah, which is right outside of Skin Walker Ranch Territory. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And I imagine it would be a good time to be at Phenomicon, 2023. So good. Thank you so much for coming on tonight. Tob, it's been a great chat with you, and I think we'll be checking in with you in the future as well. Thanks again. Thanks again. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered
Starting point is 01:05:57 Bigfoot to share their encounter in his sense. safe environment, but we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at bigfoot society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years, and it's time that you get this off your chest, and then you can get some well-deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening.
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Starting point is 01:14:10 On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer. Bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle grow organic raised bed and garden soil.
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