Bigfoot Society - The Other Camper's Story! | Washington

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

What happens when a fly fisherman ventures into the quiet lakes of Washington — and ends up in the middle of a scream-filled nightmare? In this gripping episode, we reconnect with Ted, the mysterious second witness from the infamous Deadman’s Lake encounter. What began as a peaceful solo fishing trip during elk season in 2004 turned into a night of terror — a chilling, high-pitched scream shattered the silence, followed by eerie owl sounds and unexplained stomping just beyond the tent.Ted, a longtime musician from Portland with a deep sensitivity to sound, breaks down what he heard — and why it still shakes him to this day. You’ll hear about his other strange experiences across the Pacific Northwest, including Mildred Lakes, Estacada, and the shadowy trails near Mount Hood.Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode reminds us: the forest is never truly silent.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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The stories come from everywhere. one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Three, two, one, I Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Ted today. This will be a fun one. It's especially fun one for me. And this is because I love the ones that you. you think are never going to happen. Ted is the individual from episode 628, the other guy at Dead Man's Lake. So if you've, in Washington, if you've heard that episode where there was another gentleman

at the lake during the encounter, this is Ted. So Ted, I was so pumped when I saw your email and I was like, oh my goodness, the guy actually, he reached out. And I was like, this guy will never reach out. He'll never hear it. So, Ted, a few other things about you first. You're also an avid fly fisherman, and you're going around the Pacific Northwest, I would imagine, doing your thing there. And it's just a pleasure to have you on the show.

How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing well. Yeah, I've there for 20 years. I was hiking into different lakes around Western Washington. southwestern Washington in the particular Oregon and the Oregon Cascades and fly fishing small lakes. And that's how I got hiking into Dead Man's Lake. Let's see, this was, like I said, 20 years, approximately 20 years ago. It was 2004.

It was September, and the elk season, bow elk season in Washington was underway. And I decided I was going to go in. hike into Dead Man's Lake and then there's another lake nearby called Vanson Lake and and fish both of those. On the trail going in, I ran into the person and his son from the other episode and we had a nice conversation and we had a whole bunch of huckleberries because they were nice and ripe for there on top of the ridge and he told me that they were camped down there by the lake and they were, they were at where the trail breaks off the main goat mountain trail and goes down to the lake. They were camp right there.

And so I passed their camp and went down and camped at the lake. I did some fishing, like I said I was going to do. I went and walked around. I saw a lot of sign of elk down at the water. So I knew there were lots of elk around. I went over and did my fishing until it got almost dark, made my way back to camp, had dinner. And this is where my story begins. It's a little different than Freddy's, but for the most part, it's pretty, pretty accurate what he said. I'm also a musician here in the Portland area.

I've been a musician for most of my adult life, you know, playing bars and stuff. but often this is sitting at the lake and I was just I just finished dinner and it was that twilight kind of almost dark but not quite there yet and I was sitting watching the lake and off in the distance very faintly I could hear this all I could say was a howl it it sounded like a ghost that you know where it went up and pitch and it hung out on that pitch that high pitch for a while and then dropped off, kind of like a bell graph. I heard that, and it was way off in the distance, very faint. And I remember sitting there going, I wonder what that was. And didn't think too much of it. I stayed up for maybe a half hour longer.

It was probably 9 o'clock, and I went to tent. Let's see. And then I fell asleep almost immediately. woke up to a scream that was not far from where I was camped. And that was the same scream that I had heard earlier, but just an incredible amount of volume. Woke me up right out of a dead sleep and startled me pretty good. You could almost hear it sounded like,

as a scream was going on, It went up to a high pitch and then dropped off and had a kind of a low vibe to the end of it. Kind of like, I would kind of think of it maybe sounded like a pipe organ or something where it had multiple tones in it. The main tone was that high screen, but then it had some lower tones in there. And it was really, really odd. I never heard anything like it before. It got me, riled up, this was at 11, approximately 1130 at night, got me up. I stayed up for a couple of hours after that.

My tent was open and I was looking around just to see, I wanted to see if I could see anything. But after that howl, I had two owls that were near my camp that were calling back and forth to each other. It sounded like, and they were just doing a purr. They weren't doing the who cooks for you call. They were doing just a purge, just a sound. And that went on for a little while. That went on for maybe half an hour after the scream in my tent, you know, in the tent area.

And yeah, that's, so I listened to the owls. I got, eventually I got back to sleep. I woke up, I set my alarm on my watch back then. now I'd use my phone. But back, I set the alarm on my watch and woke up at five and was still trying to figure out what I had heard that night. It packed everything up, put it in my backpack, went down to the lake, looked around as it started getting light, looked around to see if I could see anything. And then I just got out of there because I was pretty freaked out. And as far as Freddie and his son, I didn't even know they were back up at the lake.

I thought they had gone down to their, he said he had a trailer down at the horse camp. And I thought they went down there to spend the night down there and get, because it was kind of, the weather wasn't great. It was a little rainy. It was cold. I thought maybe we'd get some snow. There was some ice on the tent when I woke up in the morning at five. So, but I did, I walked past their camp and I got out of there at first light. And he had mentioned in his story that he looked up, as he got up, he looked up, and I was,

I was gone. Yeah, I was gone. It was pretty terrified to hear that and not know what it was. That's about my story. That's wild. How far away from Freddie's campsite were you again? We're probably, I don't know, he said 200 yards. That's probably about right.

It was probably, you know, at least 200 yards. He was up on the hill above the lake a little bit, and I was down at the, there was a horse camp down there where they had, there's a little meadow area off to the side where the horses get out, and they just kind of put them in, out there in that, in that meadow area. And that's where I camped. I camped right there because that, and there had been horses there, you could tell. You know, there's horse poop all over and all that good stuff.

But, but, yeah, that's, that was probably about 200 yards. Did you notice anything weird on the way out from that camp, your hike out of that area? I didn't notice anything odd coming out. I did pause at the top and ate some more Huckleberries. They were perfectly right, but that that time of the year, I think they were a little late. But they were, I picked a bunch of them. They were about the size of quarters.

that were huge. And I just remember eating those, going out. See, I've been up in that area a few times since then. It did close. When I got out of there, about a week later, they closed the access roads to that area down because the volcano became active. And that was between that September,

well, I wrote it down at September 23rd of 2004 to approximately, sometime in 2008. It never said what month, but I, and that's why I couldn't get back in there because I live in Portland and to get back in there

and have to drive all the way around and go in from Randall to get to that area. And it just, it just was too far of a drive. It was a couple hundred miles to do it that way. So with those roads closed down because of the volcano, I couldn't get back in there.

But I wanted to get back in there and try to figure out what I had heard. And something since that experience, it really changed the way I fish, the way I camp, the way I do anything. I've always got my head on a swivel. I've always, you know, I'm always aware of my surroundings and I'm always looking to see if something's sneaking up on me or something. And it's just changed how I do stuff. I don't, I don't solo backpack anymore. I used to do that all the time.

And I've done it a couple of times since then, and I don't get any sleep. So it's not really worth going out and doing. But, yeah, it's, it's, it was, it was pretty traumatic and changed pretty much how I do everything. I do a lot more car camping now than I used to and stuff like that. Yeah, I can definitely imagine why for sure. You also have a, you told this account to the BFRO, correct? Correct, yeah.

On that account, it looks like the investigator says that you had reminded, the sound reminded you of a sound that you've heard Gibbons make. Is that something that has changed over the years with the way you remember it? Or do you still feel like that's a pretty good representation? I think it was pretty much the first time I heard it. It did that where it crescendoes up and, you know, the bell graph thing, like I said, that goes up and up in pitch. It's like those crazy videos you see on YouTube and stuff where the given, it does that crazy thing, you know, it was kind of like that when it went up to that high pitch. and then from there it stayed on that high pitch for quite a while.

I was probably, I don't know, six, seven seconds, eight seconds before it dropped off. But yeah, it was kind of like that beginning. It was the only thing I could think of at the time. He asked me if I had, you know, what I could compare it to, and that's what I told him. Gotcha, gotcha. You have a really interesting viewpoint of it because also you have that, musician's background. So you really get sound in a way that a lot of us probably wouldn't get. Did hearing that sound, did that affect you physically in any way while it was going on?

Well, it terrified me. I actually was in my tent shaking. The only weapon I had with me, you know, I normally don't carry anything with me, but I have, I had carried a knife with me. but that was the only thing I had as far as I you know and that's a utility knife I use it for splitting wood and everything you know it's it's not a defense a defensive knife at all it's so you know not having a any kind of weapon or anything up there was you know it did terrify me it wasn't to the point where I got up and left right away I know Freddie said that he He thinks that I got up and left right away, but I didn't. I was there until 5 a.m.

And then I packed up. But yeah, it was, I normally do that when I go backpack and into a lake. I would go in and then I'd get up at 5 and I'd kind of watch the, you know, sunrise and see if there are any fish feeding and stuff like that. So that's just kind of how I used to do things. Gotcha. At any point, did you notice anything around that campsite that? that was out of, you know, it wasn't ordinary. Maybe there were big impressions in the ground

or there were broken trees or bent over trees or anything weird like that. You know, in 2004, I didn't know to look for that kind of stuff. Sure. Like tree snaps and stuff like that or wood knocks. I would have just assumed a wood knock was just something falling off a tree. as far as any of that stuff goes, yeah, I wasn't, I was, I liked Bigfoot, you know, the whole idea of Bigfoot.

I grew up on a family that my dad used to take us out on drives in the woods, you know, and we'd call it looking for Bigfoot, you know, we'd go off and just drive around on gravel roads up around like Estacada and areas like that back in the 70s. but yeah, I never really, I did, there was an area, like I mentioned earlier, it was like a pasture area, not pasture, just a little meadow area off the side of the lake, and it had been trampled down, but I just assumed that had been trampled down by the horses. I didn't, you know, I didn't, I did make a little trip around on the sand. That whole area around the lake is a sandy pumice rock type stuff. and any animal that walks on leaves a track. So I did walk around a little bit of the lake.

I did find where some cow elk had come down and gotten some water probably during the night. I didn't see him in the morning, but I may have heard them off in the woods. But, yeah, I don't remember seeing anything. I did go out looking for footprints to see if I could see any big foot footprints, But that was really the only thing I knew of at the time that they would leave. So it's a really interesting detail how as a child in your younger years, you went out with your father in an extremely active area. Estaceta is absolutely bonkers. And I know that from experience.

And you went out with your father, which is really, really cool. You know, you're driving around. You're looking for stuff. I have a few questions about that. I guess the main one is so you have that time in your life where you're like okay Bigfoot's out here but was this Dead Man's Lake area

the instance there was that the first time that it became very real for you and you experienced it or was there another time earlier where it's like oh this is real? I had one other time in my life where I had something happened as a kid and

and after you know after years of thinking about it, I'm assuming that that's probably something. It was up in the Olympic National Forest, and we had hiked in. I was a group leader guy, and he would bring three or four kids, and we'd hike into these lakes. And we went to, there was a series of three lakes out in the National Forest up there on the Olympics called Mildred Lakes. and we had hiked in and we were camping at the the we were camping at one of the lakes and it was about you know midnight one o'clock in the morning and we all woke up to this thing screaming across the across the lake at us and nobody knew what it was and the guy the adult who was with us he says

oh it's got to be an elk it's got to be an elk and so we just oh okay we just all assumed it was an out. But, you know, looking back on that, that's probably the first time I had anything that was really weird as far as, you know, something vocalizing at me. But, yeah, other than that, that was probably the first time. I never did, we never did see anything when my dad and I, and, you know, we would go out and drive around the roads. We were just exploring. I never, I don't know, you know, we get out of the car and stuff, but a lot of times it was just to go up and fish. For listeners, Mildred Lakes, they are, it looks like they're north of Lake Cushman, which

has come up on the show a lot of times. So we know that area is, I mean, being in the Olympics, it's highly active, but being not too far away from Lake Cushman, it looks like, is definitely, definitely an active area. What you heard that those screams were they, they. similar to what you heard then at Deadman's Lake, or would you say they were different in a way? They were shorter. They weren't a long howl, but it was just like something was screaming just like, blah, that is. And it was from across the lake, but, but, and it went on for, I don't know, five minutes or something like that.

So it was a longer duration of this, and it was more than one yell, I guess. what I heard at Dead Man's was that drawn out howl sound. And I just heard the Dead Man's, I just heard it the one time in camp. I didn't hear it. I know Freddy said something about hearing it, like yelling at him, yelling at his tent, which may have happened.

I just was, because it must have gone up that way. But yeah, the howls were different from the Olympic Peninsula. One, Olympic Forest. Gotcha. I do want to also point out for listeners that the main, so I'm just going to ask you, what was the main reason that you were going to Deadman's Lake for that time?

I was actually going to go up. I was, I know the report said one night, but I was actually going to go up for two nights, and I was going to fish Dead Man's Lake the first day and then go over to Vanson Lake, which is maybe two miles away and fish that and camped there the second night and never made it to Vanson. I took a right and went back to my car. Absolutely.

So that's a reminder where I'm sure a few listeners had heard that Olympic National Forest info. I mean, like, oh, this guy is actually a big for research, but that's not what he was at Dead Men's Lake for. He was there just to do fly fishing. He's an avid fly fisherman. So I want to make sure the listeners are aware of that. Now, would your father ever tell you stories about Bigfoot activity in the Estaceta area then?

No, actually, I don't know if my dad was a believer in Bigfoot or not. I don't, I remember him having us all sit down and watching the Patterson Gimlin thing when that was on TV as small kids. you know, just, but I don't know if he thought it was a guy in a suit or if he thought it was a real deal or, you know, I never really asked him about it. And he, he passed away before I had a chance to, you know, this happened after he had, he'd already passed. So I never had a chance to talk to him about it. Gotcha. Have you ever heard any accounts from the Esticata area yourself? I, personally, I haven't had any.

I've heard other people's accounts on the BFRO and stuff. There's some recordings from up in that area of a howl. I know up roaring river area, up going up to Rock Lakes, Lake Serene, in that area that's supposed to be a good area to go and look around. But I haven't done that in years. Last time I was at Rock Lakes was probably. back early 2000s. Let's see.

I know there's Shell Rock Lake has had some activity up there, but it's a pretty active area up in this part of the Mount Hood National Forest. I've been camping up near Timothy Lake in that by not far from Mount Hood. And that area seems to be, there's a lot of sign. and I found a, I actually found a footprint, and I showed it to my wife. I found some, if you believe in tree structures, I found a tree structure that was a big cross that had been, it obviously had been set up. The trees weren't from that area. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Reesis with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang.

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That's wild. That shell rock, shellrock lake area that you're talking about. I mean, that's, you probably took 224 to get there, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then, yeah, and then 57, I think it is the road going up to it. Then it's 58 off of that or whatever. To make sure listeners, so what's going on there is, so this is the Oregon Bigfoot Highway, that 224 is the Oregon Bigfoot Highway from the book that goes from Esticated down to Detroit. So he is talking about an area where it's north of Ripple Brook and a little bit east, it looks like. But, yeah, extremely, extremely active area. And you can get that book if you want to read more reports from that area.

Now, going back to Deadman's Lake for a few minutes, you know, Freddie's son had had the actual visual of a, of what he says he saw a face. Now, I just want to double check during your interactions there, yours were all, you're just hearing things, correct? Correct. Yeah, it was just all audio. So he, yeah, he said it looked like an alien. That would have creeped me out to see that peeking at me from around a log or whatever. Yeah, it's a weird pattern that is kind of slowly coming out. I mean, there's other Oregon reports where you hear that.

And I'm thinking specifically about the Cottage Grove area. I've talked to two gentlemen from two different, I mean, 90s and more recent where they see something that looks like an alien in that area. You know, that's further south in Oregon, but there's some weird, weird stuff going on. Also, what kind of fish did you end up catching from that lake? From Dead Man's? Yeah.

Mostly, well, it was Brook Trout. Okay. They were, yeah, they had stocked at it sometime with Brook Trout. And then I see, I'd fished Vanson before, and that was rainbow. So I could either catch brook trout or rainbow trout. So I was going to do the two different types of fish. Absolutely. So you've got berries and you've also got the trout.

And so you have definitely some food sources going on there at the time that you were there. Just want to double check and get your thoughts on it. What you heard when you were up there, is there any chance that that could have been. an elk what you heard. No, actually, you know, I've been around elk for years. I was avid elk hunter for many years. But, you know, I've heard bugles, grunts, chuckles, you know, every sound that they make, I've heard them when their voices are hoarse from bugling and they sound kind of almost like a frog.

I mean, they, I've heard a lot of. elk in my ears and I know it wasn't an elk. I would have loved to have been an elk because I wouldn't be thinking about a big foot every time I go in the woods. Absolutely. The sounds of the area up by that lake, outside of the things you were hearing, what were the other sounds that you were hearing in that area? Besides the howl, I mean the owls or the, well, I had the owls that were that were cooing. back and forth. And that was near my camp. That was that was pretty close to where I was at. So I don't know how close they were. I was looking around in the, I had my flashlight. I was looking around in the trees,

but I couldn't, I couldn't see any eyes. So, and I know their eyes shined when you hit them with a flashlight. I think that I did hear some, what sounded like stomping. It was off away from, from where I was, but it just sounded like something was just stomping, like it was mad. is what I was assuming. But just chunk, and then it did that for maybe 10 seconds,

but it was like it was getting further away from here. It wasn't very loud. I don't know if that's what it was or if it was beaten on something or, you know,

or what it was. But that's what I was thinking at the time, I was thinking, God, it sounds like stomping. Oh, that's interesting.

What, what time a day did that happen at? That was during that howl event. That was after the thing it howled in the camp. And it was a few minutes after that. And I heard that. And I couldn't tell which direction it was coming from or anything else.

It was just I could hear it in the distance. Gotcha. Would you ever go back to that area? I've been back there a few times. I've been back to Dead Man Lake, three or four. more times after that. And I've gone back there with audio recorders and, you know, cameras and everything else. And, of course, you take the stuff with you, you don't, you know, hear or see anything.

So, but yeah, I've been back in that area a few times. Okay. So this is very interesting. So you're going back not with the motivation to fish this time. You're seeing if you can capture evidence of what happened. Yeah, like I said, it's changed how I do things in the woods. I don't go out and, you know, and do the fishing lakes like I used to. It's a lot of it is just going around looking for, you know, something that would, you know,

like a sign of like a track or a broken stick, you know, the broken tree snaps or or something like that, you know, that might be an indication of a big foot. That's, it's really changed how I, how I, what I do in the woods. and maybe not for the better because I, you know, I sit and tie flies also while I'm, while I'm not doing anything, I have a whole setup over here and, and I probably have 10,000 flies tied up just because I don't fish as much as I used to. Gotcha, but it's something you still enjoy doing as is creating the flies for the fishing. Yeah, it keeps me occupied.

Gotcha. Yeah. So when you went back these other times with recording equipment, et cetera, there was nothing out of the ordinary that was either that you experienced or that was captured on these devices. Yeah, correct. Not even an owl. I mean, I would have loved to have an owl hoot and been able to get that on a recorder, but nothing. So that's interesting, though. So does that mean that you're hearing no sound at all when you, when you want to?

out there or you're still maybe hearing some bugs, etc? Oh, yeah, I'm hearing the net, you know, the normal forest sounds, the wind blowing through the trees, the bugs buzzing, you know, stuff like that. It's, you know, in the evening you hear the frogs out there. So it's still, you know, you still have the normal sounds, I would call them. It's nothing, nothing out of the normal, you know, nothing out of the normal drone, I guess, of, you know, the regular sounds. Yeah, I mean, really thinking about it, yeah, it's been,

I took my, I did take my dog up there one time, and we were walking around the lake, this was kind of weird, but we were walking around the lake, just kind of looking, I was taking her for a walk, and we're going around the, the area that surrounds the lake, the pumicey stuff. And all of a sudden, you just turned around and ran at full speed, away from me going back to camp. And I have no idea what she smelled

or caught wind of or heard or something, but something freaked her out pretty bad and she just took off her on it. She'd never done that before. So that was kind of a weird thing that's happened up there. That is extremely weird for sure. What is your goal now with with spending your time

going out to these places? trying to capture something. Do you have a specific goal in mind through all this? Not really. It's just, it's for me. I don't care about, you know, if I'm not out to prove Bigfoot exists. I don't really, you know, care what people think about that, to tell you the truth. I'm just out for my own, you know, fulfill my own goals of, you know, looking for something like that.

You know, it's, it also gives you an excuse to go out in the woods. I enjoy getting out and hiking in the woods still. I mean, I'm 62 now, but I still enjoy getting out and hiking the trails and get out and looking at stuff. I don't hunt anymore. Like I said, my fishing is not nearly as much as I used to fish, but I still get out and walk around looking for stuff. It's a really, it's such an interesting story, and it's so cool to have both views. Have you talked to Freddie since that time? No, I haven't.

That was the first. It was really weird to be watching YouTube and having my story being told by somebody else. Oh, that's what I wanted to ask you is, can you walk me through, like, how you even got to hear this to begin with? I was, I've been thinking about going back over in that area to do some camping because I have had some weird experiences over near. there. And I mean, I had something stomped through my campground the middle of the night, three o'clock in the morning, something was with a gurgly, you know, sound when it was breathing, stomped through my campground. Me and two other guys were camping there, you know, just out having a guy's weekend. And they, they're, they were, dying on both of them were freaked out

enough that they wanted to get out of there and go back home, not knowing what that was. I had no idea what it was. It could have been, for all I know, it could have been a bear. But, yeah, I've never heard anything stomp through my campground before. But so what was the question? Sorry, but that is extremely interesting. We're going to get back to that. So I guess the question was, how did you stumble upon the episode?

Yeah. Okay. Well, I was actually. Actually, I've been employed by the same employer for 43 years. I probably shouldn't say where I got laid off just a couple of months ago. So in my newfound time off, I've been sitting here watching YouTube videos. And I just happened to type in Dead Man's Lake. And I got that episode.

And I listened to it. And it was you and Freddie doing the talking about the thing. And I played it for my wife. And she's, you know, exactly what happened, you know. And because I've told, you know, she's heard this story 400 times. And my mother-in-law listened to it. And I guess I told her about it sometime. I don't remember talking to her that much about it.

But I guess she called up, like, Harry Hurried you know, that guy talking about your story. out. That's exactly what you said. Yeah. So that's what, yeah, I've just been kind of hanging out at the house, doing some, you know, projects around here and going camping. And yeah, I just happened to across the YouTube video and watch that. That was great.

That was. And Freddie was, when I met him up in the woods, him and his son, great guy, really nice guy, easy to talk to kind of guy. you know it was he was really a pleasant person wow that is that's incredible i mean i forget people i i do it because i enjoy talking to people about bigfoot and helping him out and i forget yeah people actually listen to this thing you're not just in your basement talking to people anymore but uh you had that's how it was back in 2019 you had you had mentioned that So that time when you had the weird thing go through your campsite and it was making the gurgly noise, was that in the same area or a different area? It was down at the Green River, which is down at the bottom of that valley.

You know, that ridge, goat mountain ridge is 2,400 feet. Okay. And it's almost straight up. You're doing switchbacks for 2400 feet. So it's 2,400 feet down. And there's a green river that flows through there. and some of the biggest Douglas fir trees you'll ever see in your life are in there on the trail that follows that river.

But yeah, it was down, there was a little dispersed camping area down there. It was dry camp. And we just had pulled in there and set up a camp, set up a tent. In camped, I put some video, you know, the trail cameras. I put a couple of trail cameras up. We had, you know, and we went down and messed around on the river and stuff. But, yeah, that was just one night. I think we stayed there a couple of nights, but that was just one night.

We had something to stomp through the camp. That's interesting. You still got something like that, even though you had trail cams set up, because usually, you know, that all. Yeah, they were ways away from the camp, though. I got a bunch of coyotes on them. That was a, I probably. got 10 different coyotes on the, on the trail camera.

So it was, it was an active night of, of animals moving around. Gotcha. How has, is that the only weird thing you've experienced going out in the woods since that time? Or do you experience other unexplainable things as well? Well, I've had, well, this is totally in a different area, though, but this is over in Oregon. This is up still in the mountains. National Forest, but barely. It's almost over, as you drop off to the Brighton Bush River, which is over by Detroit,

it's an area that we've been, I've been actually going there for years. I think the first time I went there was with my dad back in the 70s, but it's an area on an old logging road called Tarzan Springs. And yeah, so we've been going there forever. And I had gone back, walked, actually went, walked back the road. I was going to set up a couple of trail cameras for, because I was doing some scouting for hunting. And so I set the trail cameras up and came back.

And my wife was going very funny, very funny. And I'm going, what? Because you're over there knocking on that tree. So while I was gone doing that, they were getting wood knocks knocked at them. My wife and my granddaughter. And they, of course, blame me, but it was not me. So that is wild.

Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's a weird one. But other than that, it's really, I mean, I haven't had too many experiences. I mean, I've heard Knox here and there, but, you know, they could be anything. Are you aware of the history of that Tarzan Springs area? I am now, yeah. We just went out there because it had the, because it was Tarzan name. So we'd just go up there because, you know, but yeah, it was a logger or minor or something that lived up there with the monkeys.

Yeah. So we're probably talking about the same guy whose name was Glenn Thomas. And the story goes, right? The story goes is that he saw a whole family of Sasquatch in that area that were flipping over big rocks, digging holes and then eating the squirrels that were hiding underground. I believe that's pretty much the easy way to say what was going on. But again, if you want more or more info about that, get the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book and it goes into great detail. What year was that that you had your thing happen?

Oh, probably 2016, 2017, something like that. Yeah, wasn't that old? Let's see, my granddaughter is 11 now. She was about four. So six years ago, is that right? 11, seven years? So whatever seven years ago would be. Yeah, nine or ten, yep.

Yeah. Yeah, so it was, that's the last time we had anything up there happened like that. But we've found a footprint up there one time too when we were driving up there. So I think I've turned my wife into kind of a believer. She was very skeptic about it and skeptical about it. but I think she's coming around. Well, I mean, sometimes it doesn't take much. I mean, yeah, especially you're able to take her to places like this,

which is just like, man, talk about like you're getting into the thick of it. But it's very cool to hear that, you know, well, Glenn Thomas's situation happened so long ago. I want to say it was back in the late 60s. and to hear that, yes, still having things happen in the same area, I mean, as recent as nine to ten years ago, which is, it's very, very cool. That Brighton Bush area comes up a lot. There's a hot springs there, and I bet those guys have had some weird things happen. Yeah, I've been up by that.

We've camped over on the Brighton Bush a few times. I mean, we don't go there all the time, but we've been up in that area. It's burned up there. It burned up right up to that resort spa up there. I believe it burned right up to it. Yeah, I believe you're right. Because I know Detroit had a big fire, too, a few years back. Yeah, that was the thing.

It burned. Yeah, it burned everything down to the ground. It was pretty amazing to go up and see that. I mean, like I said, I've been going up in San Diem and the Brighton. Bush and Upper Clackamas my whole life. And to see that all gone, it just looks like a totally different area. Wow. I mean, this has been a really, really interesting conversation. And we've gotten to way more than just the one area I thought we were going to be looking at. So, I mean, this, this has been extremely fun, Ted. Thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing

what you've experienced over the years. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you came on the show to share today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've definitely shared what I was going to and then a whole lot more. Fantastic. Well, thank you, sir, for coming on. And I appreciate it. Stay in touch.

If you ever experience anything else weird out there, I'd love to hear about it. And thank you so much, man. All right. Well, thank you, sir. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think

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