Bigfoot Society - The Shenandoah Sasquatch with Tyler Hall from STM

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Join the Bigfoot Society as we sit down with Tyler Hall, a writer and director at Small Town Monsters, whose projects inspire the show. Tyler discusses his latest ventures, including 'Phantom Lights,' a feature-length film about mysterious orb lights, and 'Shenandoah Sasquatch,' a series set in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley. He shares compelling personal encounters, including an eerie night in West Virginia where he heard bipedal footsteps and saw a mysterious light. Delve into Bigfoot, phantom lights, Appalachian folklore, and the intriguing behind-the-scenes stories as Tyler gives a sneak peek into his world of cryptid filmmaking. Don't miss this episode packed with captivating tales and unique insights into the paranormal!Resouces:Shenandoah Sasquatch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihbPHp3d2SMShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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you get a special members-only episode every single week. and sometimes even more episodes head on over to patreon.com forward slash the bigfoot society and now let's get on with the show all right bigfoot society we get the privilege of talking to tyler hall Tyler hall is a writer and director with small town monsters of course if you're listening to this show you're probably aware of who small town monsters is really there would be no big foot society without them they were a big inspiration motivation for me to start the show So, Tyler, it's great talking to you. I met you at Monster Fest 2 this year, and we got to hang out a little bit, but how's it going, man? Yeah, man, going good. Good to see you. Thanks for having me on the show. And we did.

We got to hang out at Monster Frest. I don't know if you know about the typo. Yeah, dude, I have it on my wristband. Nice. Dude, I didn't get a wristband, but that's okay. Yeah. In your own words, what have you been doing for STM? What have you been involved with all that good stuff?

Phantom Lights, man. Phantom Lights, I just wrapped on it back in April. It just got cut. So now it's getting shipped off to wherever it's going to be at, probably Amazon at some point. But it premieres at the Erie Horror Film Festival in Erie, Pennsylvania on October 4th. So that's my latest project. I'm working on a series right now called Shando Sasquash that takes place in Virginia, right here in Shando Valley, which is my bread and butter. It's my backyard. It's at home. I grew up here. And it actually premieres sometime like right now-ish on Small Town Monsters. So the first episode drops right soon, very soon sometime tonight.

Is it really tonight? All right. Yeah, yeah. We're trying to get it up. Yeah, we're trying to get it up. Something happened with the, you know how like when YouTube, when the videos asked like process? Yes. And they check for something's going on right now. If it said, just message me. I'm like, I'm doing a podcast, brother. I don't know. I don't know what to do.

I've been battling it all day. Dude, you know what it is? The man doesn't want the Bigfoot stuff out there. I'm not even kidding, dude. Seriously. Dude. I've heard it, dude. I've heard all those conspiracies.

I'll tell you this much. There are so many podcasts. So regular podcast, I record phone calls. There are so many interviews when you start to get into like the deep stuff where it's like click. And you're like, hmm, that's so weird that the phone calls keep shutting down all the time. Maybe my cellular is just not good. But tell me about phantom lights. So I think I know what those are.

I'm more of a big foot guy, but kind of tell me and my listeners like, what's the deal with the phantom lights? Yeah, so Phantom Lights are, you could call them just Orbs. That's a better, more simple term for them. Phantom lights, orb lights, they have an entire plethora of different names. And you hear me talk about that. They transcend, just like a lot of phenomenon that transcends culture and ethnicity. And you hear about them all over the world. Fairy lights, you know, just different names. So Phantom Lights, the film, it's a feature-length movie. and it takes place in the Chestnut Ridge and Ron Murphy who wrote Lights in the Mist and a whole bunch of different other books on phenomena in the Chestnut Ridge and other places. He is featured heavily in the film and he helped me make that movie possible, man. Without Ron Murphy and Heather Mosier like really being the backbone of the research, that movie wouldn't have happened. But yeah, that's Phantom Lights. And I go into a lot of civil or a lot of, not civil war, a lot of coal history, a lot of coal and steel industry, oppression history. Because that's like my background, man.

You know, I've got family members who were coal miners and they fought in redneck, you know, coal wars back in the day in West Virginia. So I wanted to, I wanted to really highlight that part of the Chessner Ridge's history, about their union and labor movements. Wow, I didn't know there So redneck coal wars were I didn't Oh dude I grew up in Massachusetts So we did not have redneck coal wars

In our In our history I was actually in southern Vermont So it was more Ethan out And all that stuff There's a movie called Maitwan And that's about Cold Wars in West Virginia And dude it'll move you

It's got James Earl Jones in it He tries to join the union People are like No I can't join union This one guy stands up for him He's like he's a union man He's our man And it's cool dude

Gives me goosebumps right now talking about it. I love it. I may check it out. That's where the term redneck came from, man. A bunch of dudes are wearing red bandanas, and those were the coal union strikers. All right. Cool. That's great.

That's cool. Shannon Doa Sasquatch, I have been waiting for this one. I've had a few interviews from Virginia. To find to me, is Shannon Doa, does that apply to? to the whole state or is it a certain part of the state that we're talking about? Yeah, so Shendo Valley applies to like roughly 120 so miles laterally on the state of Virginia. So it runs, you know, north to south, south the north, however you want to look at it. And then east-west, it's about from the eastern side over in like Charlottesville area into like a couple of counties in the West Virginia.

That's about how wide it is. So I don't know, give or take another 90 miles or something. So it's a very condensed, you know, it's like a colloquialism, you could call it. And it's just another part of the Appalachian Mountains. Inside the Shenando Valley, you have the Massanuton Mountain Range and the Shenandoah Mountain Range. That's just kind of what we've nicknamed those mountains. They make up the Blue Ridge Mountains. The Blue Ridge Mountains make up the Appalachian Mountains.

So it's just kind of just a valley within the North. eastern part of or northwestern part of Virginia. Interesting. Was this a project that you'd come into STM and you're like, I want to make this? Or how did this all kind of come about for you? Yeah. So originally I came up with a couple different pitches of what I wanted to do. And Mermaids was one of them.

I had all these wild ideas. And Seth's like looking at all of them and Shandoah was only, the list and he's like, how about you do that as your first series? And I'm like, that's perfect, man. It's right here in the backyard. So, but I didn't have any contacts with it. So we kind of sat on it for a while until it was like the right time. And then out of nowhere, Amy Bue gave me a contact and that was Charles Kimbrough. So yeah, I interviewed Amy and she was like, I know a guy who lives in the Shando Valley where you're from. She's like, here's his number. So I was like, oh, tight. And then I sat on that and I'm like, dude, I have a contact now. And I'm like, dude, I have a

contact now for the Shenandoah thing that I want to do. And so I reached out to Charles. We got Krispy Kreme and we talked about Bigfoot and life and stuff. And his sons in the Navy. He's serving right now overseas. We talk about that. He's just cool dude. And I was like, man, this is going to be a good fit.

And then come to find out he's a BFRO researcher. And I'm like, dude, what? That's crazy. So, yeah, that's how it kind of came into fruition. And then this is a, I don't know if should I just drop something right now? I mean, if Seth is cool with it, why not? Well, so I think the first episode will be out by the time this launches, so I think it's definitely cool. Okay.

I don't know, so Monagahela, Bigfoot, bioacoustic. Oh, yeah. That name is definitely, you know, you've heard of it if you're really into this Bigfoot stuff. That guy is actually in the series as himself, and his name is Devin Counts. So, yeah. So he actually like, boxing monogelah. No, dude, dude, he like wanted to come forward and like share everything about his life pretty much.

I shouldn't say it like that. It just kind of happened naturally. He's like, yeah, I'll be in it. And I didn't know really the whole war. I didn't know what I had when I shot like the first weekend with those guys. And then over a couple of days that I was with these dudes, I was like, oh, crap. This is a big deal. It's a big deal.

I'm a movie kid, you know? Like, I didn't grow up so much with, I don't know. It's a mix, right? So I grew up watching this stuff on TV, but like, I don't know. It wasn't super into it like some people are. So I didn't know when I got. I didn't know what I had. And then, but I figured it out.

And I applied that to the show. And I hope people see that. I hope people know that I'm trying to be like, I don't know. What was a good word for that? like I have something that's pretty valuable to give to the world. And I just want to do that justice. I want to do that justice for Devin as well because it's a pretty big deal. He works in the defense contracting world.

And, you know, to come out and say like, you know, this is what I do in my all the time. It's a big deal. So I want to respect that. Man, 10 times more excited. I was excited before, but like this is a huge deal. Like I I would have never guessed that you know that would not have been on my bingo card that that individual would be like yes this is me this is everything and it's going to yeah it's going to be on SCM presentation at the same time. It happened it happened so like naturally it's really weird man because I like I said I didn't didn't really know who he was to be honest. I heard the name a few times. people like interviewing people and stuff and uh i'm like oh that's cool a mysterious guy who's

by uh manga hala which is a you know which is west virgin uh i'm like man that's cool but then then i'm working with them and you know it's cool man i don't know it's weird it's weird how life works no it's better that way though that i wasn't like a fan boy or something you know i think it was i i actually think it was because There is something to be said for just being a, just be cool and hang out with people. And, you know, I had to learn that hard, the hard way in Chicago hair a long time ago with Mike Dicka. And it did not go well. And so I was like, just be cool with people, you know, like everyone's just a person.

So they just want to be. And especially if you see Mike Dicka, give him some space. He just wants to play his video games. He's a great guy. I want to hear this story now, dude. You got a deep dive at the bat later. No, I'll tell you now. So you remember the movie kicking and screaming with Will Farrell?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I'm not a football guy, but I knew kicking and screaming with Will Ferrell and he's in it. Right. And so I was like, I was freaking out because he was in the movie kicking and screaming. And he was like just sitting there in the airport. playing like this old 80s handheld game. No way.

Dude, Mike Dicker from kicking and screaming. And he was like, dude, I'm playing poker or whatever he was playing. And it did not go as amazing as I thought. But he was an NFL player though, right?

Like big NFL guy. Coach, I think. Coach, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

So he's like thinking of screaming. Yeah, right. He shouldn't. Yeah. Dang, dude. It's because it's because it was the movie reference. He didn't like the movie reference.

Absolutely. Is Shenandoah Sasquatch? So I don't know if you can give us this much. So are you actually going out and is it a thing where you're going out looking for stuff or you're more maybe interviewing people that are involved with that part of the country in Bigfoot or maybe a little little bit of a surprise? Both. It's both. Okay. It's heavy in field research.

and it's heavy in interviews. So each, this first one was very interview heavy, just because I introduced these guys. I wanted to give them their time, you know, so they could tell the audience who they are and how they go about research before we just jumped right into field research. But no, we've got a little plot of land.

Oh, it's not little, but it's like 200 acres out in the western side of the Chendo Valley here. across chendow mountain and yeah we've been hunkering down there and just getting at it over there and doing research with those guys so it's cool i'm learning a lot about big footing uh i i enjoyed a lot more than i thought i was because it's just like it's just really camping and just hanging out with the boys and that's what i really love about it because i'm an outdoors dude i was a you know national park service law enforcement ranger for four years and before that i worked on the trail crew did wildfire like the whole life's been outside so it's natural and I'm like big footing fits into

that so perfect it's just hanging out and then going to look for this thing that and what what better is that dude like there there's a creature that lives out there even cooler you can get weird Tyler um I'll tell you that I'll tell you this much like I went out to Oregon and when you get deep and it changes you like Eventually, you will, if you keep doing this and you like keep, I don't, well, I don't know, maybe with STM, it's different. But if you like really get into it and you start getting out there, there'll be a point where like something will happen and you're like, oh my goodness. What's that? Whoa.

Did you get a scrape on your arm? Whoa. Yeah. Something did happen. Dude, bad. Like arterial bleed bad. Whoa. So I know what you're talking about.

That was out in Mount St. Helens. Oh, oh, right, wink, wink, when you went out, because you had something going on out there, right? Which you probably said too much about. No, we can't talk about that at all, but yeah. So it is weird, dude. I'm with you. I think that was one of our first conversations when you said, you've had weird stuff happen. I'm like, yeah.

And I'm like, you have two. And you're like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, dude, yeah. We know what's up. It was, so this is before I went out to Orch, Oregon, but I don't know, dude. So like sometimes, and not to get too weird, but like sometimes I'm like talking to a person or hanging out with some person, and I'll be like, dude, this person has been through some weird stuff. Like you can tell.

And I don't know if that's weird to me to say. But like, yeah, I, you have an interesting history. I kind of can tell Tyler, you've been through some interesting stuff. And I don't know exactly what it is, but you probably have had some some weird stuff happening. your past. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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Fair enough. But, dude, no, I'm with you though. Like, I can, you know,

you can, you can sense people. That's not, that's not like too out of that world, out of the world anyway, you know, it's like people, we have that six cents in us,

I think. Some people do. I think so. That's too weird to say. Like, you can definitely sense people and how, you know, what their vibe is.

So, Tyler, what do you think? think a big foot is do you have any any thoughts as to what we're dealing with when we kind of go down the rabbit hole which is big foot yeah i think my first impression of bigfoot grown up was that it was one singular big foot you know growing up i was like there it's like a santa claus thing you know uh r r r what was it uh rick dyer his bigfoot suit I remember watching one on Fox News, dude, when I was like, I was little, dude.

I was probably like 10. I was a little kid. And I was sitting in front of TV and I'm like, it got him. And I thought it was like Santa Claus is next, dude. Like they're going to get Santa Claus, that kind of thing. And then growing up, I'm like, no way, there's probably more of them. And then I was like, it's an animal. Then I started getting, so I got into conservation just naturally through my career.

And I'm like, dude, this thing could exist. and if it does exist, then that means that we need to think a lot about how we interact with it and what are the necessary steps to try to protect this creature. I mean, it probably doesn't need much of our protection. We didn't probably leave it alone. But like, how can that transcend into conservation? So I think Bigfoot's flesh and blood. You know, I know it's a lame answer, but I do.

I think Sasquatch is flesh with blood. But there are weird things, dude. There's weird stuff with them. I'm not going to deny that, you know. No, I agree because my answer, if you ask me the same question, is pretty similar. And I always say people think it's probably a cop-out, but whatever. Mine is that it's a flesh and blood creature, but it can do stuff that science is just like we have no idea what's going on. Like, we haven't discovered that.

So I think you can do some weird stuff. I'm sure you've probably gotten into that, or you've heard the stories. and man, it's the deeper you go and the more you interview people, the weirder, weirder stuff can get. Infrasound stuff is compelling, dude. And that exists. That's a real thing. So why? You know, maybe they can do it too.

But I would say absolutely. I mean, speaking to Amy Boo, I was talking to her the other day and she was sharing with me how. she and some fellow researchers were out, I believe, in Pennsylvania, and they all were having heart rehabilitation issues. And I've experienced that myself in an area in Iowa when me and my son were out doing a Bigfoot weekend. And it's very scary. And it blew my mind when I heard Amy talking about, like, oh, it's happened to other people. It wasn't just a me thing. So I think that Bigfoot can do some absolutely weird stuff as well. What do you think that the closest you've ever come to one or have you had any interesting experiences? For sure, which is even stranger because like I said,

I don't really get into this stuff, but it's like my whole life now. And I've had experiences. Maybe I'm like, maybe I just don't want to know. But yes, so to answer your question, Glen Jean, West Virginia. My aunt owns a ranch down there, and it borders the Boy Scout territory, which is like 20-some-thousand-ankers of just forested land, and then on top of the mountain there or on the plateau, is their Boy Scout, like, barracks and Chow Hall and stuff like that.

They got a bunch of man-made lakes up there. And it sits empty most of the year until the summer when they had big Boy Scout jamboree. But anyway, so she borders that park, And then around all that is the New River Gorge National Park. And, you know, we've got all that wildlife area right there. So we go out there and it started as kind of like just having fun in high school with her, you know, watching all the Bigfoot stuff on TV. And so we just kind of go out and mess around until it got real. We heard like this roar or how one night when I was.

younger about 15, 16. And it was so guttural. And you could almost feel it, but you could tell it was far away. Like it was, you could tell it was miles away in the holly. And that's when I was like, what was that? All your hair stands up on your, your neck. And it's crazy. So after that, we would do that every summer. And pretty much every time get a response. Anytime I'd go to my aunts, we'd go out and she'd do big for calls and I'd sit there with her and some most of the time we'd give a response um but the to answer your answer your question I know I'm a I'm a rambler this was like June of this year I want to say June I could probably date it I think I have some video of it my cousin and I were out on that same property my aunt was doing calls back at the house

we walked down uh into the woods and dude it was just a fresh storm that came through. So like there were monster trees everywhere, a bunch of big fresh dead and down. So it was like it's, I mean, it's already a jungle pretty much. But I mean, now it's like super dense. I'm talking trees over top of your head and just super gnarly. And this is probably about midnight. And she's doing house, doing house, doing house. And we're not hearing nothing. And we're deep in there. And all of a sudden, dude, we hear this tree crash. So it's like, what was that? And then some movement. And then movement. And then movement that. felt like it 360 to us and it felt like more than more so and like by peal man it wasn't like

and like there was like birds like freaking out and flying up out when this started happening so it'd be like a flock of birds just like or like a grouse or something just leave its nest or whatever and then by people kind of walking and then it felt like you got closer my cousin saw a figure which like freaked him out. He wanted to get out of there. I've got all this on audio because the video is kind of crap. It's like super dark. But I recorded most of it in audio. And he's freaking out. I'm like,

ah, dude, I want to like, let's wait this out. And then I see this, dude, it's great. This sounds crazy. I see this like giant ball, like on the ground, dude. And there were lightning bugs going on, dude, like all night. And

I grew up in the South, dude. Like, I know what lightning bugs are. and this was like the size of a basketball or bigger or a little bit bigger and it was just white light white like whitish blue light like almost like kind of see that yeah like that and it just illuminated and it was close to ground it illuminated so much it illuminated this big fern and I was like whoa and then my cousin Cole he was like dude I just saw that too And I was like, what did you see? And he's like, I saw this light. It was like lightning on the ground. And I was like, yeah, dude, I just saw that too. And then I was like, dude, we have to stick this out.

And so it got more intense, more intense, more intense. And I could hear, dude, this sounds nuts. I could like hear something breathing. And I felt like, this is my opinion. I felt like we were like 10 yards from something. What it was, I am no, I'm not going to say it was Bigfoot. I'm not going to see here and be like, dude, we were that close to Bigfoot. But if I, that's the closest I've ever been to something like that.

So it was crazy. So you had, you saw a large ball of light and at the same time you could hear something breathing as well. Yeah. And yes. But we also, what accompanied all that too was like this dead, like the smell of a dead person pretty much, but like a little more musky. the whole the whole time this was happened was like this nasty like dead smell um but yeah dude the breathing stuff the bipedal walking around us the ball that illuminated a fern and then that smell and then i'm like sitting there dude like staring out into the woods and i'm like i'm about

to see one i really thought like he was about to see one and then i can't remember i have to review the audio again, but I think a big giant crash happens and we did and we're like, we're done. It was like super loud. It was way back where my aunt was across from the like, across your fence line on another side of the property.

So like a like a tree crash or something crashing through the woods? Probably like a tree fell, you know. I think it was just bad. It was not a good time to be in the woods in general because that storm just came through. It was a monster storm. It was putting down big tree.

trees. And so it was not a good, not a good time to be in there. But dude, who knows, man? Like, the tree crashing stuff too can be big foot or can just be the storm that just came through. I bet you it was not her first rodeo going through weird stuff like that, though. Sounds like she's pretty aware of what's going on out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she is. She loves that stuff. She'd be a great guest, dude. She's crazy. I may be saying, you know, pass on my info if you want. Yeah, I got you.

She'd love to do it. She's funny. She does a fundraiser for suicide awareness out in West Virginia called Willing for Hope 2. She's a cool person, man. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, that is very cool. I love stuff like that where you're raising awareness for that kind of stuff is extremely, extremely important. And my listeners, they're always like, go into this topic.

And I'm like, I'm a Bigfoot show. And they're like, who cares? Just do it. So I'm going to ask. So what are your thoughts on dog man, Tyler? Oh, dogman. Dude, I don't know much about him. I know.

I like the Rougaroo stuff. But my thoughts, dude, I don't think it's real. I don't know, man. It's hard enough. Yeah, it's hard enough. And I don't like saying that, you know, because I'm not the type of dude to discount people's stories, you know. I like to listen and respect people.

But I've never heard anyone tell me that they've seen a dog man either. And that might change my mind because when I hear people tell me about Bigfoot, I can tell if they're lying or not. And most of the time, 99.9% of the time, these people are like going through and they're like retelling a traumatic event, as you know. Not all of them, you know, it doesn't affect people the same. But you can tell when someone's genuine. about their experience. So I haven't, no one's ever told me a dogman's story yet. And I think

maybe if they do, then I'd be a believer. But dude, it's already hard enough for me to sit here and believe in Bigfoot and ghosts, which I do believe in. And then to add dog man, I'm like, ah, I don't know. I'm just waiting for Aaron D's to kick your door down. Oh, I know, dude. He's going to kill me, dude. He's going to kill me. no no no um yeah no no the whole dogman thing it's a thing where i wish it wasn't real because the stories are just so crazy and they're never nice

there's never any good ones where it's like and then they high-fived and had a hop in a soda and whatever no it's like it's always terrible massacre dude yeah it is always bad news but then i'm like man they probably don't have dogman out here in Iowa and then the next week I get an email that's like hey I just saw a dogman over by Iowa City and like ah no and they look like hyenas oh crazy dude yeah do they let me ask you a question do dog man will they walk upright yeah so uh and again um I'm not I'm not the expert for sure

but a lot of the ones that I've talked to people about is they are on two legs. They're kind of sloped over, kind of hunched over, like a hyena looks. Like the, if you look at a hyena, like it's back and it's neck. They have that like narrow hind in, right? Kind of like any dog, any canine. But then it's like more man back, like it has a big back or something. Is that what they look like? From what I know, but, you know, again, not the super expert.

And really, I never want to be the expert. I know. Aaron Dees can have that forever because I don't even want to know. I don't even know if I want to go on to the LBL, to be honest. Have you ever been down in that area at all? No, dude, I want to go so bad. I love Kentucky. That place seems rad, but weird, like super weird.

I don't know. I was watching Eli. He edited all that LBL stuff. I've been watching that. That place is very strange. The way the government just came in and acquired that land, let's say do in a lot of places for public land. But it's just weird, dude. It's a weird place. Yeah, that whole story is pretty terrible. I'll tell you that from what I, actually from what I learned from a lot of STM documentaries. There was a lot of stuff I didn't know, and I was like, wow, this is really not cool for the people that lived there. So you've been to Kentucky. Have you ever been to any weird spots in Kentucky?

What's the weirdest spot you've been to in there? No, no, I haven't done any, I've done much investigation in Kentucky. Literally, like, most of my time spent in Kentucky is driving through to get out west. But we were stuck in, like, where were we outside of Louisville somewhere? stuck in traffic for like three hours. They had to land like a life flight on the road. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal

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like hang out on the highway while this helicopter came and landed, which was kind of strange. But that's, I just think Kentucky's beautiful. It reminds me

a lot of West Virginia and a lot of places in Virginia. So I think Kentucky's cool. I'd like to get out there more. I pitched a Kentucky thing. There was like some ghost stuff, like half old

and boy stuff that I'd like to. Oh. maybe get into. Oh, that would be cool. So did you say ghosts of Hatfield and McCoys? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that could be interesting. I like that history crossover. So that's what I'm really into and what I'm really interested in creating with STM. But here's the curveball for you. Do you have a favorite piece of Bigfoot evidence? Ooh. That's out there.

The world. Oh, I'd have to probably think on this, man. Dang. You put me on the spot. A favorite piece of, oh, Patterson Gimlin, easy. That's legit. That is, not only is it just like a beautiful piece of cinema, in my opinion, I think it just looks really cool. Let's say it's fake.

It looks super cool. And it's believable that it's like a found footage style. And that was in the, what, 60s? October 20th, 67. Yeah. Yeah. So think about that. if it's fake, which I don't believe it is, but if it's fake, it's like the earliest piece of

found footage movie ever, which is super cool. But it's not fake. It's real because that thing, well, dude, I mean, you can tell it's real in more ways than one. So the thing I always love about it and a few people have pointed this out, but I know one of them is Jonathan Easley, is how you can see the muscles moving. Yeah. In a way that you cannot replicate with a suit. It would be just impossible, especially with the suits of that day.

You can see its muscles and its legs and its thighs and its hind in. The way the hind end tapers looks like an animal that's consistent with living in the woods, like how bears like hindens look uh it has breasts like that's have you seen those photos of it's like it has breasts dude i agree with you like the whole uh part with the breast absolutely so yeah it's just like would you go the extra mile if you're making a suit to put that just doesn't make sense right exactly does not that's how i feel the conical shay the nose, even in the on upscale versions, you can see some of that facial detail.

And I don't know, man. It just looks really good. If it's fake, those guys should have went and pursued a special effects or whoever built it should have pursued a special effects career. And if they didn't, then they were doing themselves in, you know, disjust, you know, injustice. But, man, I love the Patterson Gimlet footage. I think it's so cool.

I don't know, man. I don't know what else to say about it. That is definitely my favorite. It's just cool. It's a good time. Yeah. So you started in SDM. Was it April of this year?

July of 2023, part-time, and then, yeah, full-time this April. Awesome. Has there been, if you can share, if you can't, has there been a memory that stuck out so far that is like, that was really cool. Anything maybe behind the scenes or just like a funny memory? Anything like that? Yeah.

Yeah. My first time ever being on set with the STM crew. It was like most of them. They flew Aaron in. Seth was there. Courtney, Heather, Mark Mattsky was there. So like all the traditional STM. team guys, they were all there.

And I drove in, I got off shift at work, so I was still part-time. I worked like a 16-hour shift. I drove all the way to Canton, Ohio, which is six hours. And then I worked like 12 hours, 14 hours into Canton Palace Theater. So I was up for like, whatever you want to do the math, go ahead. But forever. And I just worked with those guys, had a blast, didn't feel like I was working at all. and I felt like I fit in really well with them.

We just had a really good time making UFOs are visited. I was like just, I don't know. It was cool because everything I've been working for, like working towards my whole life with my film career came into, you know, fruition right then and there. And that's because I, like, bust in my butt, you know. Like, it was just, it was just cool. It was just a cool moment for me to be like,

I kind of like made it sort of thing. And that's because of like the hard work. that I've put into doing this as a side hobby for so long. Like literally started when I was probably like 12, you know, 13 years old. Oh, wow. But just always, you know, and just had a bunch of different jobs over the years. And I'm like, I don't want to marry this career of like being depressed all the time, you know. Like, there's something better, man.

And that's STM for me. So I'm just blessed and happy. Anytime I get a chance to share that, like that seems amazing. I think that's a really cool thing that we can tell listeners is like if you have a dream, you can go towards that dream. Now it might take you five to six years or longer easily to get to that dream. But if you work your tail off, you go for it. Dude, you can go for it and you can get it. Yeah.

So you have to work your butt off. I mean, you can't. You can probably get luck. But like for me, I'm not. I'm not a very lucky guy. I'm not pretty opposite, like, bad things you tend to happen around me, but I try to be the guy who can fix them, you know? But, like, I work my butt off.

So that's, yeah, that's a good message. It's like, as long as you have a good work ethic, you can do cool stuff like this. It's not just, you know, like, well, how can Jeremiah and Tyler can, you know, just do podcasts all day and that's their job. It's like, man, you can do. too. You really can't. You just got to work that. Yeah. And the other thing is like you have to want it just because you, well, a big, a big thing is like you have to be wanting to help other people through it. That to me has to be a huge part of it. Once I figured out how what I do helps people a lot that made the difference for me just to the side. But and pretty much you have to be able to do it. Just imagine you're in your basement just talking to yourself and like no one's listening.

You just have to love what you're doing. And it sounds like you did. So when you started at 12, like what was the first camera you were working with when you were making stuff at that age? Oh, dude. Oh, my goodness. So we always had like VHS or like the little compact VCR things lying around. So I'm sure I made stuff on that. There's home videos of me like going to be like, give me the camera when I'm like four.

you know so i always was like into it but i we were we didn't grow up like with a whole lot of money so we played like filmmaker and we'd hold like brooms as like the like the boom mic and stuff um but my passion came from watching horror films with my me mom and my dad my mom and like being really in halloween stuff also just like loving halloween as a family but watching like army of darkness I got the poster up. Oh, wow. You know, John Carpenter stuff, Ramiro, watching that stuff with my Meemo and my dad got me into where,

and when I was at the right age, I said, oh, man, these people do this as a job. Like people make movies. Then I was like, okay, okay, this is, that can be something I could pursue. And then I just got weirder into it in high school. I started doing special effects makeup because I'm like, oh, Tom Savini's cool. I'll be like Tom Savini. And I'm like this skinny, like short kid in high school. like doing insane, weird makeup, dude.

I've got this, like, chest cavity. I think that's natural in my, it's like a, this is so stupid, but it's like a little like, I don't know, deformity, you could call it. Nice. Birth effect. And, man, I would make it like, I put latex in it and make it look like an alien chest burscher came out and just like freaking people out.

But, yeah, it was more like doing stuff like that than grabbing a camera. My first camera that I ever bought was a Nikon D-3200 DSLR. And I made some cool stuff on that, but just the low light wasn't good enough. But that's how I learned how to make beautiful composition with anything, any kind of camera. Do you feel that your love for that early love for horror is going to show itself in any way when you're doing. films for STM? Oh, yeah. It already is.

Phantom lights. There's like little homages and phantom lights. Like some of the, I set up scenes, like interview scenes like the shining stuff, like Kubrick stuff, one point perspective. Like I love like Wes Anderson's like flat stuff too. And I'll like, I'd play around with that on STM stuff. Like if you watch any of my stuff, you'll probably, you'll probably jump out pretty early that this dude likes

70s horror films and Jallo horror Italian horror and old westerns and you'll see it. I like wide landscapes and yeah so it definitely transcends

hopefully it can transcend into like a screenplay you know maybe that's my that's my in goal but right now I love what we're doing I don't care that I don't care what it is as long as I'm making movies

I'm happy. That's awesome. So every how, let's say it's Halloween, every Halloween, is there a movie that you pop in every Halloween? You got to watch it every year. Oh, dude, it's probably on my floor. I just, we just moved in. So I got all my, like, the whole collection is like on the floor right now. But Fantasim, dude. Fantasm, 1978, 77, Don Coscar Alley. That's the one. Another Halloween go to. Dude, there's a million. Like, definitely John. carper's Halloween of course you have to watch that but like oh man return a living dead oh there's all kinds of good stuff hocus focus you're going oh hocus pocus dude you're getting in uh you're you want to talk halloween movies oh edwood tim burton's edwood that gives me a that's a full little

Halloween movie. I don't know. I like weird stuff too. That's awesome. But seriously, hocus-focused is about the most I can handle, but maybe I will take the titles you said, maybe I'll jump into something else. Don't watch the new Hocus Pocus, dude. No, I heard it was, it was terrible. We just lost Disney as a sponsor, guys. Just kidding. They're not a sponsor. You're down in Appalachia. Yeah. So let's think about this. And half the comments is going to be mad.

I said it that way. You can say it one or two days. So we're going to say that. Dude, there's three sayings apparently. There's three. Yeah, someone calls it Apah. Dude, I heard it the other day for the first time. And it's like some Pennsylvania people, it was like, so there's Appalachia,

which is what I say. And then there was, dude, I don't even remember, but it's weird. It's so weird the way they said it. Appalachia. Apalika. It was crazy. Wow. Yeah.

So there's three, dude. We're going to make someone mad regardless. It's going to be great for engagement in the comments for sure. So thinking of growing up down there, what is the weirdest legend that you remember when you're growing up and you're learning about that whole area? What's the weirdest legend that you can think of down there? All right. So, I'm going to do two-parter. I like to talk.

Nice. So I'm from, I was born in Beckley, West Virginia. So Mothman for that region, of course. Like, everyone knows about Mothman, right? I mean, Mothman's worldwide now. But, of course, you know, being from West Virginia, like that's your dude. like motham, everyone knows moth family. But growing up in the Shindow Valley in Virginia,

we have a local legend that is not many people know about. And there's this old mausoleum out on the west side of the river here in the Shindore River. And it's those are the boonies, man, of Page County. Those are the boonies. You go down this road called Page Valley Road, this mausoleum that sits in the woods abandoned. And it's an old A-frame cedar, cedar log. mausoleum. And it's dilapitating now. There's a lot of graffiti, but it was built in the 40s,

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as a young man pre-World War II and went to school here in Virginia. So right here in Virginia, he got a plot of land, he built a home, and then he shipped

his parents over. They were deceased. these coffins from Germany and then built them a mausoleum and it took him years to finish the mausoleum so they sat in his house that kind of became a legend for that time for those that boomer generation people go to his house look through windows you know anyway so but in the 90s those his parents bodies in their tomb was desecrated and dug up and thrown out in the woods in the natural forest out there and that's all corroborated by the

law enforcement officers that worked that case and then the coroner who's still alive who I do work for a funeral all the time it seems like that oh really yeah dude like I've live stream it's not funny but it is kind of funny

um like live stream funerals I like help them install their like live stream equipment in now and then I've just like done drywalling for it's just weird stuff. So, but anyway, uh, that big Dow is the guy's name. There's like three dows, big, big, big Dow, big Dow, big Dow, little Dow, and Big Big, Big Dal. And Big Big Big Dow still alive and get it like go pick that, pick their bodies up. So it's just a weird,

but it's like, it's like, it's like, let's go scare the girls in high school. Legend. And that's it. That's it. Boom. That's very interesting. Not a big fan of the whole throwing the, the bodies out in the woods or like, that's, That's not a cool move. Don't do that guys. It's crazy, dude. Not cool. Yeah. Do you think, do you think feral people are a real deal?

Is that something you run down, run into? I don't think they are. And I can explain that or thoroughly. I think there's very poor people. And I think there's very culturally connected people. That's why am I saying it like that? There are people that live in the Hollars, Appalachia, that are very poor, and they might have had some issues genetically or just, you know, birth defects that make them a certain way. I know a lot of these people.

I've had to work cases with these people. I've worked calls with these people. I have some of these people as my family. And I think those are the people that get misinterpreted as feral people. I think there's a lot of crazy drug addicts in Appalachia as well who get misinterpreted as farro people as well that's just kind of my opinion on it just because I'm from Appalachia like we have these two dudes that hang out

they're called the ah shoot the Harlow brothers and they literally hang out on the side 211 and they'll jump in front of your car for no reason what like that's their goal is to just like jump and run out in front of your car and And we go and Harlow, get off the road. You have to shoe them off the road. I've searched them before. You find rotten bananas.

Like, it's just strange stuff that if you're from, not from here, and you drive down 21, U.S. Highway 2.11, and you see the Harlem brothers trying to jump out in front of your car, try to get in your car. You might think they're feral people because they do look like that. They do. But they're just these dudes that are like, they have mental illness problems. They're poor. Okay.

Yeah. Well, I've actually heard stories that they have some money, but that's another local legend. Oh, the comments are going to be blowing up now. Yeah, yeah. But that's what I think of, that that's how I perceive that. I think they've been, I think that story's been perpetuated into something else. That's just my opinion on it. But, man, if there are real thorough people, I'm interested.

Yeah, absolutely. That, oh, man, what a documentary that would be. But so you're saying that. This is current day. If I drive down this road, these dudes could, like, totally jump out and try to mess up. Oh, 100%. My first time my girlfriend saw him last year, like last summer, and she was driving. And I was like, oh, no.

And I said, hey, just you need to go, like, far around these dudes and, like, keep driving. And she was like, what? What? And I was like, I'm not trying to freak you out. Just like, don't pay them any attention. And then, of course, here they come, dude. They're, like, running out of the road. but yeah it's modern man like they exist there's a lot of those kind of people around here you know

it's sad it's really unfortunate to see but you know they're also like don't do that don't try to like get in someone's car you know but yeah they exist dude that kind of stuff exists do you let me let me put this in your ear do you think there's any chance STM might do a Bigfoot thing in Southeast Oklahoma. Southeast Oklahoma. Ooh. Wink, wink, wink. Maybe.

I don't know. Actually, I'm not sure what the wink is. I don't know. I'm out of the loop on that. No, I'm just saying if there's a, oh, you want it. Seth is like, hey, any ideas for Bigfoot documentaries? Yeah, I got you.

Actually, Southeast Oklahoma might be good boss. Dude, I've heard some cool stuff come out of there, man. there like a site down there that's like supposed to have a bunch of activity yeah area x and uh all that jazz and um adam and uh set went down there and back in the day and oh did they crazy stuff happened yeah oh wow okay you should talk to him about it's uh some pretty cool stories so yeah man i'll have to i need to do a little more research on area x but i have heard stuff come out of there and it seems like it's a pretty big hot spot and you wouldn't necessarily think Oklahoma is a state for that, but it has a lot of, it has a lot of like Eastern Texas

vibes to it, which is a whole bunch of trees and rolling hills. Absolutely. Absolutely. So it makes sense. Tyler, it has been a fun time chatting with you tonight about Bigfoot and Dogman, all sorts of weird stuff and vintage horror. Didn't know we were going there, but we went there. It's pretty cool. What are some ways that people can reach up? out to you. And if people have cool stuff for you to look

up regarding Bigfoot in that area of Virginia, how can they contact you? Please, yeah. T. Hall at smalltelmonsters.com. That's my email. Super easy to send me that. T. Hall at

Smalltime Monsters.com. Or just hit me up on Instagram. Tyler L. Film. But, yeah, DM me, whatever. We'll talk weird stuff. Awesome. Very cool. Thanks for coming on, Tyler, and I hope our paths across again in the future. Oh, Jeremiah, it was great. Thanks for having me, ma'am.

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