Bigfoot Society - The Sierras Hid Something Huge | California

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

What happens when a retired teacher and musician takes his son deep into the forests between Strawberry and Twain Harte — and ends up staring into the eyes of something unexplainable?In this gripping episode, we sit down with Dave Osborne — a seasoned outdoorsman and Bigfoot researcher whose encounters span decades and states. Dave recounts an unforgettable face-to-face experience in the Stanislaus National Forest, where glowing almond-shaped eyes blinked at him from the darkness, followed by guttural breath sounds and unexplained vanishing.You’ll hear about mysterious whistles, tree breaks, massive footprints, and unnerving electronic disturbances at Bolan Lake — a fog-covered spot that left Dave mentally drained and physically shaken. From glowing orbs in Oregon’s Owl Moon Wilderness to peanut butter and jelly gifts disappearing under a hovering light in Del Norte County, this is a journey across the supernatural frontier of Bigfoot activity.Don’t miss this wild ride — and the warning Dave gives for anyone brave enough to try and meet the forest's most elusive guardian.Resources: Dave's book - Bigfoot Lite - https://amzn.to/47X6j0L ( Amazon affiliate ink that supports the podcast)Dave's music - https://open.spotify.com/album/6zAgYfUMbXEHaIQpkuxGxs?si=SBV_K48NR7Ws0Uk-dsydGA🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere. one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Dave Osborne today. Dave's an individual that I met out at Sasquot Summerfest in Oak Ridge, Oregon this year. And I invited him on to the show today to share a little bit about his Bigfoot experiences he's had over the years. But a little bit to know about Dave, he's a retired

teacher and therapist. He's also a full-time musician as well as a Bigfoot paranormal and UFO enthusiast. So welcome to the show, Dave. How are you doing today? I'm doing really, really good. How about you? Having a great day. It's always fun when I'm able to talk to someone about Bigfoot, which is what I do. I hear you. And I love it. I hear you there. I love it. In the Midwest is starting cool down a little bit, so can't complain there. But is your dog with you, too? Oh, they're here at the house. Yeah, we're getting ready to pack and go to see my my son, daughter and long grandkids for five days. He's a,

he was a football coach and the minister and the kids play soccer and it's a birthday. So we've got a whole bunch of manly stuff kind of rolled together here. I'm taking a step out of my music studio for a few days, but I'll be bringing my guitar, band, drill, mandolin, all my songwriting. up with me to creative process moving along. Oh, I love it. I love it. I used to be, this is a side for a minute, but I used to be big into mandolin music with

a nickel creek back in the day. Not that I played it, but I just loved listening to it. It was good. It's good stuff. But, you know, Dave, I know a little bit about you. And I was able to hear enough to know that you have some really interesting things that you've gone through. And let's start with this.

What was it that first got you into the Bigfoot field to begin with? Was there a certain experience that kicked things off for you? Oh, absolutely. It was when I was a little kid finding out about the Patterson Gimlin footage. I was just blown away, a little kid here, a young man. I wasn't even a teenager yet. Maybe it was in Southern California and hearing about this big, hairy thing. There, the interest is grievous.

It always kind of voice-hatted in me. And then about when I was about, well, in my 30s, that's when I decided I got a jeet. We were way down far away from California, but I started making trips up to Bluff Creek and snooping around and meeting people. And way back when, that's when Al Hodgson still had a store.

And I'd come in and ask him questions. He kind of took me off on the slides. I'd actually tell you what's going on. And then one time he kind of pushed me up on his son. And we went hiking back in the wilds together. And I spent some time hanging out there, Hoopa on the reservation. And, you know, just me, it was, like I said, I was just kind of a wide-eyed adult, just fascinated with the whole phenomenon itself.

Like, my God, could this really happen? And so it was always kind of with me. And then I kind of, when my son turned about 10, that's when you got a trailer, and I decided I wanted to get out with him to do more things. And so we started slowly going to do. going what I call. I wrote a book is called Bigfoot Light and it's kind of about our early adventures together and also about our sighting. When you had those trips you were taking a Bluff Creek, just for context, was what

approximate years would that have been? Let me think here. So I know Al Hawks has still had a store that was getting close. because I was going to close to my sense. I'll see another two. You'll probably be in that. Let's see. Give me a segment.

I'm kind of doing the numbers and calibration here from my birthday to probably. You're good. So I had to be about, I'm guessing in the late 80s is when I kind of started going up there because I know he still had a store. Okay. I bought some of those original John Green books. Oh, wow.

from Hodgson. That's awesome. My goodness. Yeah. That is cool. Because I've also interviewed an individual who was checking out the Bluff Creek area. His name was Rory Zorb, but this would be in the 90s, so a little

bit after you. You know what? I actually went out with Rory once. No way. I know exactly who you're talking about Rory Zorb. In fact, Al Hotson, he passed on Rory Zorb's name to me and he was way too so rugged for me. I mean, he went

up for like weeks of the time and of course I was still working and I couldn't do that. But we did. I know at least spend one day together. Oh, wow. So Rory reached out to me and I was the first to be able to get his story recorded of what he went through.

And he's just, he sounds like he's an incredible guy. He's driving his, riding his motorbike throughout the hills and he's got this, he's just like, cool looking dude. So were there any interesting things that happened when you were able to go out with Rory that day?

No, he had actually just come back. Maybe the same experience you talked about. He had just come back with him, but it just happened to him. That's why I guess he came and talked to him. I remember he had some very close cougar calls. There's some cuckus that got very close to him. I remember that. I didn't know that

now. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. You're right. like that. So then you were able to, you got the trailer and you're able to start going out with your son, correct? Right, right, right. And we just, I kind of just, you know, back then I was pre-internet almost, if I remember correctly. And so most the information was from books and word of mouth and stuff.

So we started going to places where I'd read that there had been some things that had happened. and we didn't really have anything happen on our own. And then one time we were supposed to go on a, actually on a week-long thing up to Bluff Creek, it was a big place. There was one of the original forums that came to be that was a Bigfoot forums called Bigfoot forums. I think Brian Brown was the guy that started it.

And it was the first time there was Iowa's ever around people, a collective group of people that were in the Bigfoot had information. So the expedition kind of came out of that, But like most Bigfoot things, some people seem to a lot of organizing and they'll start pulling apart pretty quickly. But we, so that did fall apart.

And my son was just all pumped up to go out and look for Bigfoot. So I was able to get connected with Bob and Kathy Strain. Are you remember who they are? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Yeah, they said, well, why don't you go up to a, just have a, fact, I probably should keep the name of the campground quiet.

I could general area, but in between strawberry and between Hurt, there's a campground off the road that goes up there. And suppose there had been a lot of things that had happened there. So we were supposed to go up there and meet another person. I think it was Tom Yameron, and he was going to meet us up there. And so we're going to spend a few nights. And Bob McArthur had come up like the last night. We're going to do some call blasting and stuff like,

that. So if you were interested, the first time, my son, I got there. There was nobody in the campground. It was just, nobody was just, and it's like 10 miles off the main road. And it was like, just nobody at all. But there was like a host car, but I didn't see anybody there, like a host, you know, trailer. And then like late afternoon, we were, we'd set up. And the late afternoon's lady kind of came out of the trailer, hop in her car and left. So we were the only sheep on the campground. And then later on that nice, Antarong was like way back, like the road. all the camps that's

goes back like four of them on. We were in front. And later on, like an RV team in the evening, work out there. But basically it was just, it was just us where we were. And the RV was so far down and out of sight.

Couldn't see it. And it was kind of spooky that night. And the first night I was there, you're there. There was this interesting. At the time, like I said, I wanted to believe in Bigfoot, but I just wasn't sharing.

At that time, there was kind of like a, it was a broken, through through in the morning, and her light the swistling going on. It kind of on both sides of the trailer. I thought, that's kind of weird. You know, it's this whistling. And I didn't think much about it.

And in the morning, we went outside and found some really big footprints, right prior trailer. And then on top of that, we, my son found so footprints across the pre-quit trailer verified by everybody on the big foot footprints. And then that next day, we went out driving around just looking for stuff. And I didn't even know what a tree break was. And the only time I ever saw tree breaks around that area was just this one time, but there's these tree breaks all around our campground up and down the roads.

So we thought that might be more signs that we were in the proximity of the guys. And then what the captain was, and this is kind of where the story really began. So the last night, we went to this little curb out on this mountain road. It's, I should I describe it? It's, they've kind of cut it off. Now it's not so much to it. There's a real big area you just kind of pull out with their cars. And it stood there.

And it's called the Clayton River Basin. And basically there's, it's a really steep, super steep like canyon that just the river's carved out over the years. And there's really not any easy ways in and out. But one of the egresses out of this area is right where the pullout is. So Kathy and Bob met us up to that last night. and we did some call blasting and we didn't hear anything but as a night wore on Kathy and Bob and everybody pointed out there was eyeshine through the trees and sure

enough you could see this eye shine it was moving through and hear a little crap and trying to chunks in a while so they were throwing spotlights on and we couldn't see anything and so they pretty much was decided of course I didn't know that because everybody else said well when it's a lot of mic that they usually take off so I thought okay we had a little bit of the excitement here. And so what happened, everybody's sitting around and having a few beers and glasses of wine around our little kind of circle of cars and kind of put for protection. So I read somewhere in one of the books, my early Bigfoot books,

that a lot of times Bigfoot will come and circle back around you, come back from behind you, you know, you won't know it. And we were just about, oh, not even, maybe 40 yards. the road at the most. And the road kind of does a big curve right there. On the other side of the road, there's like an embankment maybe about, I don't know. I'm looking at my roof here, probably about maybe, well, 15 feet high. It's not real high.

And I walked back. I thought, you know, I'm just going to go back behind to see. Because the way they supposedly lost in the trees, they obviously were all coming up out of the basin there and we're trying to come up into the higher areas. You know what? They had to come out somewhere. maybe they're back over here. So I just walked back to the road.

And it was this pitch black that night. I mean, there's no moon or anything. And I look up and kind of to the right of the embankment. I mean, we're talking about the little, if you can imagine, two-lane road, you know, how wide a two-lane road is, you know, it's not very wide. So I'm on one side of the road. And then the event can go straight up and I look up.

And there's two sets of eyes looking at me. and they weren't critter eyes. They weren't circular and they didn't glow. They were like, I always told her, it was like an almond-shaped eye. And I'm going, and I kind of hit me. I thought, you know what? I think this might be who I think it is. And, of course, I've read books that says, you know, when you go out and do that kind of stuff,

if you take your eyes off them, they'll be gone. So I just basically just froze. And I thought, okay, I'm not going to do any, I'm not going to move or do anything at all. And so I just stood there and I'll get to how long I was there in a few minutes because I thought it was just a few seconds. It was much longer. Anyway, I'm staring at these things and then you can see the eyes kind of slowly blink off and on each one kind of, but you see the eyes kind of close and open. And then once, actually happened twice, but the first time happened I was still by myself and I heard this thing kind of go,

kind of like the sound of like how horses and bulls will kind of blow. air out of their mouth and kind of flapped their lips and it was like a really long but they they were up there to stand in their drown and I was just looking at them standing my ground and I didn't feel pet and I was kind of like I suddenly when it did that I was kind of trying to figure what I was looking at but after

it did that I thought okay I know exactly based on earlier today until eventually my son runs up and he was dad dad and the fact if you go on Spotify my first down I went under David Oswald. But my first album is called Songs for Omaha. And it's all about, it's all Bigfoot songs.

They're written such a way you wouldn't know it's about Bigfoot. But anyway, the cover photo, he's actually done by a really famous guy named Daniel Falconer, who is a good friend of Bob and Kathy, who was out with us several times. And he basically does some artistic liberties, but basically the cover photo, pretty much, you know, the cover of the album shows exactly what happened. and so anyway so Jake comes back and they're there and he's there with me and

he kind of blows, it kind of makes that same sound to blow the sound again and people often ask me what it felt like I said well they I said in anything maybe they felt like maybe they're a little bit irritated but I did see it as a thing so he runs back it's Bob and Kathy everybody and they come back

the weirdest thing was they threw spotlights on where they were it was like they just vanished in the thin air they were there this thing And so the next day, you know, we went back, but we all had to go back home and I did traces of where they might have come up out of the area. We realized they came up out of the basin behind these trees far enough down the road that we couldn't see them and then walked up this embankment. You can kind of see where the – it was a lot of dirt.

It was like really sandy up there, so you really couldn't see the footprints really well. But it was really clear that, you know, some big things kind of walk up there and there. And so, but anyway, I actually this book I wrote called Bigfoot Light, which was about my son and I going out and doing stuff together. I've written that I thought maybe I was there maybe a minute or two before Jake came to look for me. And we were recently talking about it in his house. And he was no, dad he says, so the reason I was scared came looking for you were there like 10 or, you were gone by 10 or 15 minutes after you left the camps up. So people talk about losing track of time, you know, when you're on a big foot. I mean, I could have sworn as maybe a couple of things from.

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difficult. Talked by GSC. And so that at that point time, I kind of said, even though I've always

been a kind of a big foot enthusiast, I've gone out enough times before that and myself

over the years and never found anything I was pretty much ready to call it like, yeah, it's not really

happen. So that was would really turn the whole thing around for me 180 degrees, maybe a full-fledged believer and enthusiast. Wow, that is absolutely incredible. And it's in a really interesting area. Something I am making sure the listeners know is that if you go to the podcast website, which is Bigfoot Societypodcast.com,

there's a siting map where I try to put general locations where episodes are referred to so you can follow along with it, guys. And the area you're talking about right here is pretty much West Sierra's, right? Oh, Western Sierra's absolutely. I think it's a Stanislaus National Forest, if I'm correct. Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of, I'll say that much. I've heard people accomplishes, kind of whisper in place,

you know, how people kind of get together those conferences, and nobody wants to get their conversation out. You know, there's really under the radar place. You should go Stanislaus National Forest. So yeah, they're right about it. Most of my major experiences have been there, I'll believe or not, or in California. But, yeah, I mean, sometimes I've gone up to Oregon and Washington, do stuff with people. I have a great time that I found in that area is where I've had most of mine kind of heavy-duty experiences.

It's kind of like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, this is the real deal. Yeah, absolutely. Because if you keep going up, you know, towards this year, as you've got, you know, we've heard from people around Sonora Pass, also an individual, the Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center is up there too and then you go south

and that's the 170 National Park and we've heard about Buck Meadows and Mariposa area and that that whole area is just really, really wild but did you ever go back to that area where you had that

encounter happen? I'm going to be in there many times yeah. I thought I was just looking at one of my cats let me go back in and look for I want to, that's an interesting story my friend the guy I mentioned the artist Daniel Falconer he's from New Zealand there's a lot of the artistry for the Hobbit series he was up there a couple of years and we all got together

and we went up to the same area to kind of stop his daytime we did some calls last year and I thought I guess we wanted in the daytime to see what it looked like and we stopped there and I kind of I don't know it's like I had the sixth sense about me about things sometimes but I thought you know I want to walk down to where that thing crossed the road and came up on top of this little embankment, you know, what were they? Actually, there's two of them. I want to say if I see anything. I'm walking over. And up on the embankment, I see this footprint with toes. Yeah, here he is. You got it 72611. So my sliding was in 04. So seven years later, 726 footprint by embankment, Western Sierra. So I went there and I saw

that, and I thought everybody's way, way down a hundred yards. So actually, along the side of the road, I kind of put some rock markers so I didn't lose it. And I came back with Bob and Kathy, everybody. I said, you guys said, I found something down. I said, I want your tenure what you think of it. And everybody walks down. Kathy's, Bob's eyes get really big. Kathy goes, way to go, Dave.

She goes, yeah, as exashtry what we think it is. And we kind of got track from the footprint there. And we could see where they had come up out of that, the basin area and kind of kind of kind of, in the road and you can see some real solid footprints. Like said, the ground there's not like the classic place where you find a nice footprint and you know and you could make a nice perfect cast. They weren't, you know, in that kind of element that you could do a good, good cast.

We stole the casts anyway. So anyway, that kind of almost reaffirmed to me, you know. Oh, it did. Reaffirmed me that my mind wasn't playing tricks with me or it wasn't a figure of my imagination that what I saw. What I saw was what I saw. If anybody wanted to question it, that's fine. they can go screw themselves, you know, because I always tell people have experiences.

I hear people kind of put them down and they kind of back back. I said, you know, I said, don't apologize for your experiences. If you have that experience, that's a real experience, don't let anybody take that from. You know what I mean? You're an honest person like me, and why would I have any reason, you know, to make up, you know, or fantasize an experience just to make myself feel better? No, I'm really the ultimate skeptic because, like I said, as much I believe in UFO is, I've never seen anything that qualifies as a UFO in my opinion.

But I would love to see one, but to the stay, you know, but I see anything that's questionable, my scientific mind goes straight into the process, like, okay, what could this, what could this be, you know, not what is it that I want it to be? So I stand believe firm on my experience that what I had, what I experienced that night was real. And, like I said,

subsequent things have kind of backed me up on over the years too. We've done some really cool call blasting up there and got, remember, one, the same lookout. area one year. We're doing some call blasting there from that little point there. It kind of looks out over the basin. And all of a sudden to the left way deep down the basin, we heard this, oh, this is that for call blasts here? And then all of a sudden you hear this, you hear this tree knock, ooh, you loud, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And almost like maybe 100 yards over here, a different one. Bam, bam, bam, you know, so I have, I've just had a ton of experiences up there, kind of like that, you know, that kind of, all right.

this is exactly what we think it is. That's incredible. You're right, that is one of those areas. It doesn't really come up a lot recently, unless I might just not be talking to the right people, but there's definitely, definitely activities going on in there. So you've done, I guess, going out into the field in different parts in California,

have you checked out other states as well over the years? No, you know, I met through a Beachfoot. Are you familiar with Beachfoot? Oh, sure, yeah. Okay, well, when I got invited to Beachfoot about 11 years ago, and that really opened up the floodgates for meeting a lot of people. So I started, I did some work with Dan Lynn Holm, who's pretty well known, up in his target area, Darrell Adams, who's very well known. He and I just, we're like totally different people, but we just hit it off because our perspectives on, Bigfoot and the paranormal were just so lined up with each other. So I did a lot. He and Toby Johnson, they had, I never, I never met Toby till this summer at the Bigfoot thing. Darrell always talked about Toby and what he was doing, but I never, never had the experience of meeting him. So, but anyway, you had the Al Moon Project, I think, was called. And so, so I did a lot of stuff around Darrell's old house right there.

It's just outside of Eugene, Oregon. but it's just the funciest little area. I mean, first time I ever saw what I knew for sure where Orbs was there. In Varel, I had an area where he was gifting and feeding them and just a lot of stuff like that,

you know, up there in the Oregon and the Eugene area, that was really pretty cool. Okay. Like I said, it's a bit up to Washington, I think I was up there with, Oh, what's the kind of He's the retired vet. Kevin

Llewellyn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went up to that lake everybody goes to up there that always yields results. Bumping leg. Zero results. Bumping like. I would say my main area focuses in

California, Oregon, Washington. But I feel like overall my best resourcefully I've been in California. So when you went and you got to hang out with Daryl Adams, Are you talking about like the owl moon wilderness area around Cottage Grove? Yeah, okay. Exactly.

Yeah, I said Eugene. I'm sorry, a cottage road. Yeah, yeah, I was like that. Yeah, exactly this cottage. Yeah, that was fascinating. I was up there, I think, two different times. And I just pull my camper up to Tows and we do stuff in the daytime and stuff at night. Yeah, it's a fascinating guy.

I mean, it's just probably the spookiest place I've ever been to in my life. It's just an amazing place. You just get to creep. But anyway, yeah, get back. First time my life I ever saw what I considered. Those little lights that are popping in and out. What are they called? Orbs.

Yeah, first time I ever saw orange. And I'm kind of like them eyes and I go, is that what I think they are? He goes, yeah. And like, it was just a weird thing. You try to get close to them. They kind of move away. It was just, you know, he had all sorts of stuff happen up there.

I'm too bad. He had to get to the book. Yeah, that was a waste of this. You guarantee something strange is what I happen. Oh, 100%. I mean, I've talked to Daryl. I've also talked to an individual that was in the same area in the 90s. And the cool thing is that he could, he was saying the same thing.

I mean, they both had accounts of seeing something that looked like an alien in those woods. Yeah, for that one, yeah. Oh, I said flying saucers, big foot, overs. I mean, last time I was there, we thought we heard this barking and ground. It was pretty close. Gerald was pretty convinced it was a dog man, but it spooked us out. And then we were driving back that same night. All of a sudden there's big light appeared above us and the trees following us for a while.

You can't make up a better kind of scary horror movie, really. It's something that happens up there. It's mind-blowing. It's a very, very weird area. I've never gone to it myself. I'm not sure if I would ever want to just because of some stories I've heard. It can really,

things can latch on to you. I'll say that from what I've heard. But when you went up to Bumping Lake with Kevin, did you have anything happen up there or see anything out of the ordinary? Yep, nothing. It was the most disappointed trip I've ever gone on in hopes of what could be.

That's funny. It is definitely an area where a lot of people know about it. And I've heard people that go there, they don't have anything happen. And I've heard audio come out of it. I've seen tracks. Gentleman showed me some tracks. I'm not going to mention his name because I don't think he wants it mentioned. But, I mean, they had dermal ridges on them, which was super intense.

So definitely an active area. but I think it's all about, you know, when you go there, of course, and who knows. But do you have any, Dave, do you have any ideas about, you know, any theories about what it is that we might be dealing with when we're talking about Bigfoot? Well, since I kind of came up under Bob and Kathy's tutelage, they were very much flesh in blood. But along the way, I had some experiences that totally changed my mind about that. I would say definitely I'm more on the, I guess you call it the woofactor now for my experience to just to kind of go beyond an easily, like, to me that to say, oh, it's just another, you know, mammal, large A, I think that's, to me, that one doesn't work for me anymore.

Maybe it works for some people, but based on my experiences, in fact, actually, at the time that the thing that happened to me actually is way just inside of Oregon. Ever heard of Bolin Lake? No, actually. Did you say Bolin? Yeah, B-O-L-A-N. Bowling Lake.

Okay. This experience, and this is what really changed me, this experience. I was still working as a teacher, and Beecher was like middle of June, so I only had a few weeks to get ready to go on the trip, and so I was all excited. No summer's here, let's get gone.

So I have my two dogs, who has both passed now. jet and windy. I'm a big of my labby guy, so I'm just two more here or now. But we hopped in the camper and we're going up the beach foot. So I talked to Cliff. Raffman one time about any good places to go, you know, tilt for Bigfoot. He goes, bowl of lakes. I did my research. Let me tell you, it's a, it's a pilgrimage to get to that place. Like most good big foot areas, just us off the side of the road somewhere. So I drove up there and I was excited. I went to spend two or three nights up there. I can't remember. It was just me and the dogs. And once again, it was

nobody there, not a host, nobody the whole time. And we had no sooner gotten in there, and the fog just came in. It's like a high-level fog up the mountains. The whole time we were there, that fog just stayed there. And during that period of time, I had something strange of stuff. First of all, I was just, I'm a happy person, you know, with positive all the time. I got severely depressed. I could barely even eat my food or prepare my food.

We were just kind of fogged in all day because, I mean, you couldn't even see even in the daytime. He couldn't see more 10 feet in front of yourself. So I let the dogs out occasionally. I can't remember the first or second night I was there. I woke up to this. I never have nightmares of James. I woke up this terrible nightmares. I got out of the Mad Max movie, up my campers around of all these kind of weird guys that looked out of a Mad Max movie. And all of a sudden my campers started shaking. And I were waking up going, just cussing. I had my gun. My dog just kind of looking at me. And, oh, I really felt. how it is when you come out of a dream into waking up, if there's something going on,

it kind of rotates into your dream. That's kind of how it was. Like, it was kind of being woken up by the camp being shaken. So as I woke up at stop. It was really spooky. But anyways, make a long story short, you know, we get out once in a while during the day just to take a pee or whatever. And then I think it was, because I have my notes down, but it's been so long now, but it was either that before that night or the night after, I went outside to take a pee, even though I could end in the camera, I said it was going outside to check things.

So once again, pee suit fog. And all of a sudden I kind of have my headlap on, kind of scanning around. And it looks like I see this eye kind of looking at me through the trees, what the trees were there. Not too far away, really close. I'm thinking, okay, maybe somebody put a bottle cap in a tree. I'm just going to swing my eye, my light around.

Like I didn't even see it and swing back. I swung back and it was gone. So I think something was looking at me. So finally the third day we were there. we're getting ready to leave to go to beach foot. And I take my dogs down the road. There's like an old, old deserted logging road there,

but the only other way you can walk around and do anything there. And my older dogs get really excited, like she's picking up on such set. She's wanting to clob this embankment. And I look, here's the weirdest thing. I had my camera right around my net

to take any good pictures. And also in the embankment, there's this perfect little baby, big foot footprint. It was probably about maybe I'm looking, I'm measuring myself maybe six, six inches maybe, maybe a little bit big. There's like obviously babies. It's almost like it was purposely put there for me to see.

And I started to take my camera out and I didn't take a picture of that. And my brain, like I said, it was almost like something was taking on my brain and says, oh, nobody's going to believe you did. Don't even bother it. So I didn't take a picture. So that was here at Beachfoot, all the heavy duty people there. Everybody's been on TV was here. It was like a hoose camp between Peter.

and Dr. Bendernail, they were my neighbors. I mean, what kind of guy's first year at Beach would ask for anything better or not, you know, and then Cliff was there, Bo was there, all these people were there. I was camped out to these other guys. He's passed away since, I can't think of the guy's name. He was an Oregon guy, tripped and fell on his porch

and hit his head and died. Steve, Lindsay. Yeah, Steve Lindsay or Lindy. Yeah, and I was telling my story. I was telling you how embarrassed was Steve. you got zapped. I go, what? He goes,

you got zapped. And he explained, you know, what being Zapp was. And I really kind of fit the format for what happened. You know, I mean, I get up there,

I'm in a good mood. And for three days, you know, the weather's terrible. I'll not say the big, but it's a fog, but, you know, it's an interesting coincidence.

But yeah, I just couldn't eat. I had no energy. And as soon as I left the area, I mean, within five, 10 miles down the road, I was myself again.

So over the years, I kind of put together what my concept was, of what happened. I think we were up there and I think there was a Bigfoot family and they just had a baby, a little one. I think they're being very protective of the area and they didn't want me in there. And I think on the way out, this is, you know, because this maybe it's far-fetched on the way out, you know, they maybe knew where I was going to be and they purposely put a little

baby footprint there to kind of show me why they're doing what they're doing. And that's the only thing I could come up with, you know. that's the experience that brought me into the loop and it took me while to kind of process everything and and I mean to me that was the only logical explanation that I could come up with you know I'll be honest with you what happened and one that made sense to me in some shape or form and it's just saying you know I've had to even more experiences and just kind of validate that perspective for me that that's the one that seems to work but talk about paramour I do want to just clarify in case people are curious.

Yeah. The gentleman you were referring to, I believe his name is Steve Lindsay, and he was one of the gentlemen from the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book of that the group. Right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Joe gives him a shout out on there. I was going up to the camping area that I camped up in the Western Sierra's, and I went to this. I guess I can tell you the name of this place is called Bell Meadows.

and we've done some, we did some camping there and looking around there too, and that's supposedly where Jeremiah Johnson spent a summer, and supposedly lots of weird things go on there too. And so the night, I was going to try to get into Belmottos, but driving that day, I wasn't going to get far, and so I stayed at a campground up in a little town called Miwuk, which was named after the tribe of the Miwuk tribe. And once again, you know, I don't have, I have dreams,

but I have certain dreams that I recognize are very, strong dreams, they come from a different place in your normal dream. And the night, and I was getting ready to go up there and spend two or three nights up in Belle Meadow. I had this dream in this, this native, this town named after the tribe, Miwok, tribe, and in the dream, I'm in, I'm inside a circle of elders and you could tell her all Native Americans and you can't see their faces, it's dark. There's me and some other people in there. And basically, we're all pleading our case with the Native Americans. of Americans that were worthy of being around, you know, Omaha, the Bigfoot.

Oh, that's such a crazy thing. And I had these like these two large kind of, kind of off art kind of sculptures of these wooden ducks, you know, kind of like modern art looking, not a standard looking, but kind of something you do if you kind of did a modern art thing. And I was pleading my case with the elders that I was worthy, you know, to be, to go and be part, you know, of searching for Bigfoot and that I would honor and respect them and everything. And they let me out. They granted me access out and said that I was worthy to do that. I thought, that's a strange dream you have here.

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not learn about a problem. Talked today with your doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocinoed for GSK. That's what I did. I went ahead and introduced myself. And I did it two different times. The first time I did it, it was like just not that far up the hill or it was this big,

bam, bam, bam, bam, and all of a sudden all the squirrels up there just went nuts for a while, you know. And then the second day, something else happened too, similar to that. So I won't spend too much time on that. But the real kicker was it was really cold at night. I just had one of my dogs with me, and I had a camp farm. My dog wanted to go on the camp or so.

I was just sitting by the campfire, and I thought, you know, wonder how cold it is here right now. It feels pretty cold. I wonder how cold it is. So I turn on, are you familiar with, I've been watching those ghost shows where they have what they call the melmeters or electric energy? Okay.

Well, you know, the middle of nowhere, you should get a zero reading, you know, on your thing. Well, anyway, prior to me turning that on, I heard like a little rock go kind of go, ping, like somebody just thrown a little pebble against one of the big rocks. It wasn't like anything rolling, like something had been thrown. No, that's interesting, you know. I didn't see anything.

Well, I go to turn out my millimeter, see how cold it was. And it's like, really give me like 97s, 98s. I took pictures of them too. I put them online years ago on Facebook. But I'm getting these huge, huge readings. And I'm actually turning it off and double checking. Like, I'm going, okay, this must be. something wrong with it. It shouldn't be getting range out here because people say, well, your

cell phone could do that. Well, I have my cell phone off in my camp, right? I didn't have a cell phone on me. You can't, head, don't have reception anyway. And so anyway, I basically kind of came to realization there was something around me. I just couldn't see it. I just said, hey, I don't know who you are, but welcome to my campfire. It wasn't like I could get my truck and drive off, you know, with everything the whole night. So the next morning, I got up and turned on my millimeter, you know, when it was a zero reading. but yeah and then another time i was up there hiking with the friend we kind of got lost we had a rock throwing at us against the tree and he was like a total skeptic and also we were coming back and i was

here this bam he says it was real awesome rock in a tree about maybe 20 yards from us i go did you hear that he goes yeah i said you know what did that to do that you know and i go i i must be a big friend you was actually big i said well who would throw a rock a deer a bear i mean nothing else has a ability to throw a rock you know but uh So that's happened up there, different trips. Like I said, every time I kind of go up in that area, I usually get a pretty, I get some kind of payoff. Something happens. I never know what it's going to be.

Sometimes it's little, sometimes it's big. But the whole area up there, you know, between a strawberry and twain heart. It's loaded with big wood stuff. Of course, that's where the Harryman graphics come from that are so well-known. Oh, sure. Yeah, absolutely. When you introduce yourself to the woods out loud, how soon after was it that you heard? those noises

minutes i would say three to five minutes it was it was really it was really close together it was very close together gotcha oh man that that's so when i was in when you know we were in oakridge for the festival i went out in the woods with some guys and i i tried that because i was like i've wanted to try that i should just try it because i know it's an active area dude i had the same i i said hey if you're

out there, can you do something? And within like a few seconds, there were like three wood knocks out in the woods. I was like, I probably shouldn't be alone right now. Isn't that trippy? You know, don't ask, you know, expect you when you ask for something, don't be afraid when you get it. Yeah, that's true. Exactly.

So you hit on another really interesting thing, which is that the pattern you find is that it does feel like there are times where something's there, you just can't see it. And it almost makes you wonder, is there anything that we could do to even see what's out there? And that's a whole quest in itself, you know, like, is there anything I can do? I don't know.

Well, I don't, some of these Bigfoot shows are controversial and I get it. And I'm looking at it with you being conversal. But a few of them, I think I really have to give the people credit. I think they're really trying hard to find new ways to prove the Bigfoot exists and whether people agree with their methods or whatever. I was like, yeah, you know, I mean, whatever we need to do other than obviously hurting one, you know, I think there's all sorts of possibilities. Absolutely.

You've had a lot of really interesting connections in the years that you've been involved with this. So I'm just curious, did you ever have any connections with Henry Franzoni over? the years? No, you know, I spent some time. Tom Powell and I hit it off. Oh, yeah. One time at a beach foot and we actually did some traveling together. We, my friends have a haunted house out in Taos and, but he and I went to Mount Shasta where I thought some weird stuff happened. We spent some time Mount Shasta. And then he came back down and we drove out to Taos and spent some time with my friends. But he used to talk about Henry Fanzone a lot, but I never met Henry. But I know Henry is really into doing that, taking his drums in the woods. And, you know, and, you

doing stuff like that. I never got to meet him, but I had some really good conversations with them. And who was a cool dude? What kind of things did you have happen up in Mount Shasta area? You know, Mount Shasta, I haven't had a whole lot happen there. It's just been more kind of the overall vibe of being there. I guess apparently there's a lot of portals right in the camp around because one time and Tom and I were there, there was this guy taking people through.

and I guess Tom snuck around trying to see where the portals were. But, oh, I know, that's what happened. And I could say, okay, there's this one campsite. I really liked a lot because it was a little bit bigger than the other ones. They're all pretty much spread out. But I had this another ghost tool, which people use a lot of the one where they can kind of talk to you, you know, through the device. I got all that stuff in my camera. Oh, sure.

It's like static in words and stuff like that. Yeah, but this other ones isn't that one. It's the one where actually you ask the question. And there's a little, you have a little handheld device, and a lot of times it'll answer you. Okay. And actually, I was a song about it was called Spirits by the Fire. And I was up there one night by the fire, and I just kind of felt a presence. So I got that thingy out.

And I might have been told by the people that had them that you have to let them sit outside for a while, kind of get used to the environment. And that's when the spirits will talk to you if they're there. And I can't remember exactly. Once again, I was just when I was writing a book, I've kind of, switch back to music so I don't only haven't done too much writing about Bigfoot. But basically I ask if there's anybody there with me. And it said, yeah, there's like 10 or 12 of us or something like that.

It was kind of weird. I can't remember all the conversations. And then the next time I was up there, I was lucky enough to find a spot again. So I turned it back on. I said, is there anybody here with me tonight that was here the last time I was here? And then a word pops up her. Oh, wow.

that's wild that's a little bit too coincidental for me to not to see some random words poplar up you know absolutely the other strange experience I had which really is kind of in some ways almost it's almost up there

with the my siding and in Stanislaus was all these things always seem to come between my comings and goings from beach for me the vibe is in me is really strong but I was coming home and it was really

hot down Southern California. I thought, no, I'd spend one more night up here in Northern California. And up in Del Norte County, you know, it's really hard to get access anywhere in Delanooga County, just because it's so, you know, so closed off to the logging industry, owns everything. But it's this really cool camper, just by the Klamath River, just off the 101. And it's just a beautiful camper. It's a nice RV park I've ever mentioned. I mean, it's so green there that they let you pull up on the grass. That's where you park your camper on the grass, you know. And, and so I was getting, there kind of late so I called into the desk and I go oh yeah just just park where we want

and they wanted to drag me toward everybody was and said no I got two tired dogs I just kind of want to be away from but any place I can go goes oh yeah take spot I don't know 112 or something like okay so I drove in the office was closed it still they like pull in I put pictures on my Facebook page before and I pulled the campsite I thought all right this is my spot and it says it says beware the creature known as Bigfoot has been cited in this area before you know allow your children to go down to the river unattended. I thought, okay, I like this. This is good. So,

I had talked to Bobo at the conference, the Beachfoot, and we were talking about how to lure Bigfoot in, you know, with Giffing. He suggested that they like peanut butter jelly sandwiches. And I don't know if you told me this part, but somebody said, you put them high enough off

the ground, maybe it's young, that the squirrels and the bears can't get them. So he says, you can't be inside of your camp size. It's got to be far away where you They can't see directly. You can't see them. So I put a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in a baggie. I tied it.

I had a little ladder. I tied it up above this little loose limb so a squirrel couldn't walk out on it and had a dangling up there. And the dogs retired there in the campers sleep. And I was just sitting outside having some bay leaves and just enjoying the cool weather there and kind of thinking that is the last day. I haven't had any of this. And I was just getting ready to go to bed and something said, why don't you stay out a little bit

longer? I thought, okay. So I'm sitting my camping chair. Absolutely quiet. all of a sudden this big bright light just flashes down in the tree area down where the food was. And I was just kind of like, I don't think, oh, what's that? I thought maybe somebody's got a spotlight, you know, from the road or somewhere. And I looked all around and there's no visible, there was nothing coming from the hills up there, the highway.

I mean, as I looked at it closer, I realized that the light didn't really seem to have any source. It was just right on top of these trees. and it was like super bright, like those lights you see when these have premieres for movies. And so here's the weird part. And then all of a sudden I hear crashing down below where the food is. So these are all happening simultaneously. The light goes on all of a sudden. The big, something really big is jumping up in the brush.

So I started getting from my chair. I jumped up from my chair. I was going to run down to see what's happening. And something said to me, don't go, stay where you are. Otherwise, it's all going to stop. It's like something was just commanding me to stay there. So I thought, this is the reason I'd set down on my chair. And I doubt if the whole thing lasted more 10 or 15 seconds.

It might have been shorter than nap, but probably 10 to 15 seconds at least, maybe half a minute. And then all of a sudden the light went out and the noise below went out, all like literally at the same time. So I was going to go. So the next day, I talked to the camp people. I said, I asked them they had any light triggered lights or anything. I don't keep it dark here. So I told him the story. And they had just bought the place from the other guy.

They thought the guy was for Bologna, who thought he was hallucinating him with Bigford. So they weren't believers at all. Oh, wow. So that was kind of a really interesting experience, too. Once again, another one that kind of, and I talked to Tom Powell about that afterwards too, and he said that's not uncommon,

especially a Native American head, which, of course, right there, and the Klamath River is right. That's all the reservation land around there, too. It's not uncommon in the reservation area for the Native American. Americans, you know, to talk about seeing strange lives

when there's big facilities. So, so. That's really interesting. I've heard a few people talk about Jedediah Smith State Park, which is in the same county, I believe. Uh-huh. I had a talk to a worker up at Ike's Pizza in Lieburg, Oregon. And she had some interesting things happen in that park.

But, yeah, it's a weird county, because as you said, I mean, you really can't get. to most of it because there's not a lot of roads, main roads in there. It's mainly forced stuff. But wow, I mean, Dave, you have had some wild stuff happen over the years. You weren't kidding me. Oh, so you've mentioned a few tools that you use.

Have you ever used a tuning fork out there? No, I've got out and played my music before, but I've never used a tuning fork. Okay. What's that? Well, how does that work? So, allegedly, for entertainment purposes only, there's a lot of people that are noticing that they are recording a certain tone in Bigfoot areas, that's 40 hertz.

And so some people started using 40 hertz tuning forks. And when they do that in certain areas, that same tone comes back at them from the wood. and it's just another weird thing, right? Oh. Yeah. Now, when you play your guitar out there, I've heard from a few people that you play your guitar in certain areas, and that can kind of kick off interactions too. Did you ever find that to be the case? No, I've never found my guitars brought anybody in, although it's relaxing to me.

Right, true. True, true, true. But no, I've never found that to be a tool. I think the best tool I've had is just going down and presenting myself, you know, and just hanging out, just being the right. I always tell people, I remember one time when I was first starting to do Bigfoot stuff and while we were talking with some old timer was there, now I'm an old time. But it tells you know, Davis says, you don't find Bigfoot.

Bigfoot finds you. I've always kind of been under that belief system. Absolutely. Occasionally you read these stories if somebody comes upon, they've been surprised me. That does happen, obviously, but I think most of the time they're very well aware of us

and they make their decision of what they want to do. They want to scare us, show us a little bit of themselves, or just go the opposite direction. You know, Dave, I've got one more question for you. I just want to say,

thank you for taking your time. I know you're about ready to hit the road, so I'm very thankful of your time today, but let's say there's a person listening, they're new to the subject, and they're like,

man, Dave's talking about all these cool areas. How am I going to find my own cool area? Do you have any advice about how people can try to find an area that might work for them to try to get an interaction going with Bigfoot? Absolutely. I think what I did was the first place I actually went to with the BFRO and started looking at the counties, like see where the most sightings were in the counties. And then you kind of drill down a little bit further, like,

words that seem to be most frequent. The other one I think is even more valuable than that. It's just feed on the ground, get some conferences, try to get yourself known to people and get trusted by people. And they trust you enough with the information. They know you're not going to go out and blab it. And when you get that firsthand information, that's a great place to go.

So yeah, I think researching being an armchair researcher, and just looking for areas that way, and then being proactive and going to conferences and basically get-togethers and networking and meeting people and trying to maybe get involved in a group of people that do things. Also, reading Bigfoot books that are out, too. Any big, I got a whole library full of Bigfoot books that have helped me a lot, too. Just Joe Bealhart, he's a great guy.

I love that guy. Whenever I go on the road, Bigfoot, I always take his Bigfoot Highway with me with me, because that's a great resource for anybody, especially who's up in the Oregon area, you know, to find he's very specific about spots. And I've been out camping in a couple places with him. the famous Tarzan Springs and some other places. But yeah, I think just researching book-wise, getting online, going out to conferences and meeting people and getting their trust, at least that will give you some general ideas where to go.

That's fantastic advice. And Dave, thank you for your time today. Is there anything, if people, you know, you've mentioned your music a few times in your book, what's the best way that people can track that down to listen to your music or to read your book if they want to? Okay, my book's called Bigfoot Light, L-I-T-E, and it's really just more about, although I do have my encounter in there,

it's really kind of more about my adventures, teaching my son about being outdoors and being comfortable looking for Bigfoot, not being scared. So that's my book. It's only in the Kindle form. You can't buy it as a hard copy. stuff. And then my music is actually, well, if you want to hear the Bigfoot songs that are not really

bigfoot songs, but they are, you would go to Spotify or YouTube and look up David Osborne, songs for Omaha. And if you just want to hear my actual music more recently, then you're just going to Spotify, look up Dave Osborne, and what's my last song I had on there? So I've got so many songs that I'm trying to think. The Mirage, it seems to be doing pretty well. because it's not a lot. So yeah. Well, fantastic.

I'll make sure to have those links in the description show notes for people to check out easily. But safe travels, Dave. And good luck in the future. Maybe who knows you'll have another, you know, Bigfoot come across your path. Who knows? But it's been a pleasure of chatting with you today, sir. Well, thank you so much for your time and you're interested. I had a great time.

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