Bigfoot Society - The Stump Stood Up — And Charged the Boat! | Oregon

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

What happens when a spiritually sensitive musician follows the whispers of his ancestors into the forests of Coos County — and ends up face-to-face with something pacing on a rock, staring down a fi...shing boat?In this riveting and emotional episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah Byron sits down with Chris — a gifted storyteller from the Oregon coast — who shares decades of mind-bending encounters with what he calls the “Hairy Folk.” From an ocean-bound Sasquatch pacing in front of a breaching whale to haunting dreams, glowing red eyes, stick signs, and psychic messages, this episode explores a side of Bigfoot rarely talked about… but deeply felt.You’ll hear firsthand stories from Russian River, Stanislaus River, Willow Creek, Coquille, and more — including unexplained tree breaks, vocalizations that sound like human calls, and gifts left in the forest that predicted future relationships. More than just a chronicle of encounters, this is a look into how Bigfoot connects across spirit, land, and bloodline — and how one man’s family legacy may have called him back into the mystery.Resources:Pulse Pace music video referenced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J6EI7Om1-0🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:06 while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See Lowe's.com for details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In today's episode, you'll hear from Chris, a listener from the West Coast of Oregon, about his spiritual journey with Sasquatch over the years. stay with us all right big foot society you've got the privilege of talking to chris today chris
Starting point is 00:02:33 is an individual that reached out after hearing an episode about some things that were happening around cuss bay i was very glad to get connected with chris he's having a lot of really interesting things happen around coos bay area on the coast of oregon but welcome to the show chris how are you doing sir i'm doing great jeremiah thanks for having me Chris, I want to make sure that you have the time to share. We were talking a little bit before the show started recording, and there's a lot to go over in this one. So I want to make sure you have the time to share what you've experienced
Starting point is 00:03:08 and what you're experiencing now. So feel free to take us back as far as you need to. As a kid in the 70s, I had all the normal interest in things like that with, you know, in search of, and that's incredible. from, you know, Bionic Man when he fought against Andre and Giant dressed up with Sasquatch and even Star Wars and Chewbacca and everything like that. Normal 70s kid stuff. A few years later, my grandparents moved from the Bay Area to Willow Creek.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And my grandfather was a principal of Hupa schools up there and then retired. superintendent of the hoopla spools. So I would go visit and visit the gift store, the souvenir store, and I really kind of got more into it at that point. Then, you know, life happened. You kind of lose interest in things, and I started playing music, and interest kind of went all over the place,
Starting point is 00:04:16 and I just sort of forgot about that part. Until, oh, it must have been I was in my 20s, And I started getting more into fishing. And at that time, I was from the Bay Area in California. And I would fish the Russian River. And a friend and I were fishing this area that we normally went to. We had to hike out of the parking area. So it was just trails on that side of the river.
Starting point is 00:04:46 The other side of the river was just a hill that went up in forest. This is all redwoods, you know. And, you know, I hadn't had the experiences at that point. with soft scroats or anything. And it really was out of my mind. So when this event happened, that's not the first thing I thought of, but now thinking back,
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'm pretty sure that was, I've had a couple things like this and I'll explain them. So we were fishing. My friend was downstream from me within shouting distance, but you know, you give each other space while you're still fishing. And suddenly,
Starting point is 00:05:22 the other side of the river was just like brush thick brush he couldn't see the shore on the other side and then I just went to you know redwood forest which is somewhat open forest compared to like the forest here in Oregon Ghost
Starting point is 00:05:36 there's space pretty far apart the trees but suddenly something started breaking trees and thrashing so loud got our attention real quick
Starting point is 00:05:52 that's something we normally don't hear in that area you know there's black bear there and and pigs wild pigs and mountain lion but and sometimes the pigs will make noise but not like this this is trees snapping um my friend and I look each other with you know eyes wide open you slack jaw like what is that um and it was right across for me it was right across for me my buddy goes oh maybe it's pigs and I'm like I don't know I've never heard of pig snapping giant trees they just kept going it would it was just not stopping and you could kind of see some slight movement over in the brush but not you couldn't really get a good
Starting point is 00:06:37 look of it because it was just thick brush um so it just kept going and we were trying to stitch through it and finally it kind of freaked us out enough to where maybe we should move down tree a little bit and we moved. But this was just like trees snapping. Like nothing I've ever heard at that point, you know? And at the time, softwatch was not on my mind at all. I just thought it was something very weird. Looking back, I have a feeling that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:07:17 So that was that event. And that was probably in the, late 90s, something like that. Then in about a decade later or so, I was vacationing up. I was on sort of by the Sonora Pass in the Sierra's. Highway went away above the town of Strawberry, camping at this campsite up there.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's like a state run, I think, campsite or county or something like that. And there was just a couple there was like a camp host a couple people close to the camp host and we have this whole back section of the campground to ourselves
Starting point is 00:08:01 and it was on the Stanislaus River almost similar of the story before where the other side I was I was basically camped at this crook of the river to spin in the river and I was trout fishing
Starting point is 00:08:16 doing really good catching a bunch of trout across the river was a just it went up this mountain up into the sierra straight up you know way up into the into the mountains and there was nothing there uh this one didn't have a bunch of brush on the edges so where she could see in her forest um you know had a great day fishing so that night i was sitting at the camp fire and like i said this whole section of the campground there was no one there except for us while I'm sitting there by myself, you know, holding a fire,
Starting point is 00:08:52 then all of a sudden I can hear what sounded like coming from way up the mountain. Something coming down the mountain, and it was coming right towards me. It was up a ways away. You could tell it was pretty far, but it sounded huge. And it was breaking trees as it came, and limbs, it snapped in and crapping and going through brush. and it was coming right towards me. Like I said, at this time, you know, Sausquatch wasn't really in my paradigm.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It was just, I sort of forgot about my interest of it. And I'd experienced other things at this time, like UFOs and things like that. But I wasn't really thinking about saucequatch. But it kept coming down, and it got closer and closer and I can just hear it coming. And it sounded like, I don't know, like an elephant coming.
Starting point is 00:09:47 through the trees or something. It was, it sounded bigger than an elk. I've heard elk going through trees and things like that. This was actually breaking stuff as it came. And it sounded bipedal. Came down right towards me. It stopped.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I don't know how far. I just would be a complete guess, a guesstimate. Maybe a few hundred feet, 400 feet away from the year, 500, it just all of a sudden stopped. And the forest, literally like you sit, you always hear how the forest goes quiet. The forest went quiet.
Starting point is 00:10:28 All I could hear was the creek. It's the upper stannis law, so it's the size of a creek. All I can hear it was the water. And it just seemed to go dead, like, overly silent. It was creepy. So I just It got quiet But I was creeped out
Starting point is 00:10:48 But I was Like just kind of brushing the side I say whatever Maybe it was A bunch of elk or something I don't know I don't even know if there's elk up in that area
Starting point is 00:11:00 To be honest with you But The deer A bunch of deer Or a huge bear or something I don't know I just kind of brushed aside Kept holding fire
Starting point is 00:11:11 and about 20 minutes later, I had forgotten about it at this point. I'm just sort of, okay, whatever. 20 minutes later, a huge snap, and it was right across this creek within like 50 feet. It was right across, and it was directly across from me at this point. So it kind of startled me,
Starting point is 00:11:40 and I got my magite and I shone it right across and if it was a bear or a deer I would be able to see it. I've dealt with bear and deer. It's not like they hide behind trees when you shine a light out of them. You can usually catch them in your light.
Starting point is 00:11:59 There's nothing. I'm shining it and all I could see is these huge trees. I don't know if they're Doug fir or sequoia up there. They're not redwoods, I don't think. But all I can see is this, you know, big spaces between these trees, and there's really nowhere for anything to hide. So I'm like, that's weird. You know, I've never heard of a bear hiding behind a tree, and this is okay, that's strange.
Starting point is 00:12:24 So I kind of, and it nothing, it just stops. So I put my mag light down, continue on holding fire, another five minutes or so go by. Again, a huge snap, you know, and at the time, like I said, Sausquatch was not on my mind. Now I know that's sort of their behavior. They'll do that. So this time I got my maga that pretty quick. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Same thing. I'm going around. I'm scanning across. No eyeshine, no nothing. I'm okay. Well, this is really weird. This continued on for maybe four or five times. And it was almost like it would wait for me to let my guard down.
Starting point is 00:13:10 and do it again. And I got to the point where I was leaving my maglight in my hand with my finger on the button. I'm like, I'm going to catch this, whatever this is. And the last time, it was the same thing. This huge crack, I got my maglite on in just like a split second. And there was nothing. It was nothing. So that one really, it crept me out.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And it was almost like something was telling me to go to bed. I didn't hear words that said go to bed. But just, I don't know if it was my get or if something was telling me in my mind, go to bed. And I just went, okay, I'm going to bed. And I was a little bit freaked out. I didn't know what was going on, but it was very, very strange. And to be honestly, I went to bed with my hatchet in my hand.
Starting point is 00:14:09 you know, for chopping wood. And I just laid there, but I instantly fell asleep, which was pretty strange. So the next morning I wake up, tell my ex-wife about it. She goes, oh, I don't know. You know, she doesn't think anything of it. I go to the camp post. And I say, hey, you know, do you guys get a lot of bear here? And he goes, well, to be honest, we do you know?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Every once in a while we get them. But then what happens is the fishing game. traps him and sends him over to the Yosemite side of the mountain. So he goes, he goes, I've been camp host for, you know, several years and I've seen like one bear.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And I go, huh. And he asked why. I told him what happened. And he just tried to give me this look where he raised his eyebrows and his eyes got big. He didn't say anything. He just gave me this look. At the time, I didn't understand it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I just went, okay. I said, okay, we'll have a nice day. Looking back, I think he knew that there was something weird going on in that area. And I've looked, you know, on the different websites, and there are quite a few experiences up in that area. So that happened. You know, there was another event on that same trip on Bishop Creek Canyon where my ex-wife thought something was coming down the side of the mountain
Starting point is 00:15:35 during the day while I was fishing. She couldn't explain it. So it was kind of weird, you know. It's almost like something was following us hundreds of miles away from each other. So I didn't think anything of it. I wasn't thinking Sasquatch at the time. I just knew something was very weird.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Looking back, I had a feeling that's what it was. So, you know, went on with my life and no other experiences like that. Like I said, I've had a lot of UFO sightings in my life, But nothing like that. You know, when I was growing up, my mom had night carers. She would, there was a shadow person or being in the room. Everyone thought it was just, you know, just dreams.
Starting point is 00:16:24 But I saw it one night. And I saw it a few times after that. So we had these experiences in the family. So that was all down the day area. right before we left the Bay Area, we went to the spot on the ocean up there in Sonoma County. This big, huge redwood groves right up off of the cliffs. And we went in there, and it was just, had this feeling.
Starting point is 00:16:56 At this time, I started kind of watching some of the Sasquot shows on television. Some of them were a little goofy. Some of them were better than others. and I was watching things on YouTube and things like that. So I was starting to kind of get an interest in it again. So I went to this area, and we just felt like this area was super quiet and had a weird feeling.
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Starting point is 00:19:32 Um, and she felt something in that, in that area. And I did Q actually. Um, so we left plums and some peanut butter to, just. to see if anything would happen. That was right before we moved up here to the Cues Bay Area. We actually left that and then go back because we not moving so fast during the fire and everything. So we come up here.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Nothing really happened at that spot at that time. We move up here and I'm kind of getting more and more interested in it. And it was probably, my wife had a near-death experience here. She almost passed away. she's asked she has health problems. And at that time, I was sort of exploring, you know, my indigenous bloodline, you know, my grandfather's from Turtle Mountain Reservation, North Dakota. My cousin-uncle was like us.
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Starting point is 00:21:07 and I started praying in a way and learning language and song and playing drum and all this. Well, I started having these dreams when I moved up here. And it was basically a sauce squad. person but it woke me up out of a dead sleep and I was almost I was basically in tears this being would seem like an old shaman if you will he was rust-colored kind of orange Auburn colored I guess big he was sitting next to me in the screen and he told me his name and to the gay, this is the most profound, but
Starting point is 00:21:55 simple thing. And I've kind of, it's kind of been confirmed that it's real. And I'm going to, I'm going to put it out there. His name. And I think they kind of want me to say this. He said, my name is
Starting point is 00:22:13 ah yes. I am I. I am us. And I snapped out of it out of the dream to that. And I was like, blown away. I was in tears. It was like so simple, but yet so profound. Like, I am I, I am us. And I don't know if that's literally the name or just more of a metaphor. But it was mind-blowing to me. And it was so real. It wasn't like a normal dream. It was like I was there.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So that happened right around my life's near-death experience time where other strange things were happening in the home while she was actively dying, where we didn't know she was dying. There was an orb in the home that looked like a light bulb floating through the room. There was knocking on the wall. Something was going up to my guitar and strumming the strings.
Starting point is 00:23:16 There was so much activity. in the home while she was dying. And this was around that time. So if she healed, everything became more stable. You know, there was the things in the home, the activity was sort of winding down a little bit. Right around that time, my mom retired, and she was still in California,
Starting point is 00:23:43 and we had her move in with us. Well, my aunt and uncle came visit us to visit my mom, And this was, oh, four years ago or so. And we were taking them along the coast and showing them spots. And we went to this pretty, I'm not going to state a spot because I don't want a bunch of people there are disturbing things. But we went to a spot up here that's, you know, it's pretty crowded. And there's cliffs and there's all this other stuff. And we were there at a spot we normally went to to enjoy the ocean and the cliffs and the rocks and everything.
Starting point is 00:24:23 well there's something there's this rock out in the ocean it's like past the kelp beds it's a big rock and there's a bunch of big rocks you know the Oregon coast is just full of them um there's this big flat rock out there
Starting point is 00:24:38 and when we looked at it we noticed what looked like a large dark stump in the middle of this rock and I know that sometimes there's like trees on these you know pieces of old land
Starting point is 00:24:54 that had been washed away and stuff like that. So I go, oh, maybe there's a stump there, but my wife and I are going, I don't remember there being a stumped at the spot. And we're all looking, you know, and this day my aunt had just given us this really nice camera, so we just happened to have that camera.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So we start kind of like focusing on it. I have my son out, I'm filming it. I'm like, I swear I see this thing moving. It looks like this. big huge stump on this rock. We're filming it both on this camera and on my phone. And at this time, we noticed there was a fishing boat. It was really strange.
Starting point is 00:25:37 There was a whale directly out from the rock, very close to it, that kept breaching. And then off to the right was this fishing boat that kept creeping closer towards this rock. And then I realized that this thing is moving more. and it keeps kind of looking towards this boat that is creeping in towards it. And we focus on this boat, and you could see the people on the boat had binoculars, and they're looking at this thing on the rock. And there's people everywhere, but no one's noticing this. There's people walking by.
Starting point is 00:26:15 No one's noticing it. And as a matter of fact, there was one guy that walked up and goes, what are you guys looking at? And we say, well, there's something on this rock. It looks, I don't know, looks like something. I think it's moving and it's big and it's dark. I don't know what it is. You know, hasn't stood up or anything.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And he looks at it and he kind of shrugs his shoulders and he says, ah, it's a stump. He walks off. So it's almost like, you know, perfect example. People see what they want to see. But so this, it gets crazy. So, you know, my aunt and uncle are kind of losing interest and they're kind of going back to the car and everyone's kind of getting ready to go.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But my wife and I are still standing there watching this thing and filming it. But after a while, it just doesn't move. So my wife puts the camera back in the car and we're all kind of getting ready to go. I have my camera in my pocket at this point. This boat keeps getting closer and closer to what is on the stump. And you can see all of a sudden this thing starts moving more. then I don't know where it stands up and I yell it's it's moving it's done up everyone comes running back over at this point it all happened so fast I didn't think to try to reach in my pocket and grab my phone
Starting point is 00:27:42 again it just happened so fast but this boat was really getting close to this thing and it looks like it got agitated to me it stood up and it was huge it was so tall. And it starts pacing back and forth on the rock from one edge to the next. And this is a big, long rock. It's pacing back and forth.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And what I relate that to is there's this looking back, and I've looked, and I've watched this, there's some pretty famous footage that was filmed on VHS, I think, in the 90s. I'm sure you've
Starting point is 00:28:23 probably seen it where a group of Boy Scouts come up to what looks like could be a nesting area or something like this and they're filming and the kids are playing and there's a couple adults and they pan up the mountain
Starting point is 00:28:41 and what looks like a soft squash at the top of this mountain pacing back and forth I don't know if you've seen that footage that's the marble mountain footage I believe is what you're talking about. Yes. And it's pacing back and forth. It looked like that.
Starting point is 00:28:59 To my eyes, it reminded me of what that thing was doing, almost like waving its arms a little bit. Like mad. It looked like that. I don't know if that footage is legit or not, but it looked like that. So it did that for a second, pace back and forth, and it was very tall.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It didn't look super, bulky, but it looks so tall. And it was jet black. Well, it jumps in the water. This is where it gets really weird. It jumps in the water. And this is out in the ocean that, you know, past the kelp beds. I don't know how deep this water is there. But it jumped in and it looked like it was standing up in the water. I don't know if it was floating, but it was about chest high in the water. And it it goes towards this boat and it starts pushing water away from it like a motorboat does when it takes off. Literally, the tide is coming in towards it and it's pushing water off of it as it goes towards this boat. And it starts rushing towards this boat. It then dips under the water towards the boat like it's swimming towards the boat. And the boat just takes off at breakneck speed. The boat takes off south.
Starting point is 00:30:26 just instantly goes and takes off does this huge turn so it's way farther out in the in the ocean and just bolts back north it was bizarre this thing and it just disappeared at that point
Starting point is 00:30:45 and and we're standing there like what did we just watch and we didn't film it we're like but we got it all before that and you could see there's pictures I have pictures of it. I've even like sharpened up with
Starting point is 00:31:00 turned like the definition way up and you can see an outline. It looks like it barely has a neck. Like it's, you know, like its head goes right into its traps. It looks like it has big shoulders. It looks like it has sort of a cone-shaped head a little bit.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Not big time, but you could see it. You could see it almost turn towards this boat. And you can, in these pictures, we have the boat in it. too. It was bizarre. Does the picture of the boat have any identifying features like boats sometimes too? I don't know. I'd have to look. I think it probably probably not because of the distance it was from the camera. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:44 But you can see that the guys are on the edge of the boat looking at it in the stitches. That's incredible. Wow. It was wild. It was completely wild. and just the timing of how it was just a little bit after I had that crazy dream. And then that happened. And then, you know, my aunt and uncle didn't believe in any of this stuff until this. Now my aunt's like totally into it. You know, and she told her her grandsons about it and they're all hyped about it and they want to go check it out.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So that happened. then we decided around that time to, okay, they're in this area. This is a pretty well-known area, but there's a lot of deep forest, you know, just right off the road in that area. So we found a spot. We decided, well, let's try a, you know, I know that the gifting thing seems to work with some people. And it seems like maybe I had this dream for a reason. So we decided to start basically a gifting area. and we found back in this area the stump
Starting point is 00:32:55 it was perfect it was back in behind the road and back you could find it if you went back there searching for it but no one's just going to walk by and see it kind of thing well we start doing that and at first
Starting point is 00:33:12 there's not much happening except for we'd take pictures of it so we would know exactly where everything was we noticed things were getting moved around some of the first things I left was a piece of pipe stone that my cousin uncle had given me some crystals and a couple marbles and things like that a little
Starting point is 00:33:33 handheld like music device that you could make sounds with well on my 50th birthday I think it was actually on my 50th birthday we went and this was the first day everything was gone and they had left
Starting point is 00:33:53 something in its place and it was like okay what's weird that's on my birthday it had been a few months when they hadn't
Starting point is 00:34:02 really taken anything they moved stuff but so on my birthday they everything was gone and they had left some things there
Starting point is 00:34:10 and some of the things that they they have left for us have strangely lined up with people that we would meet in the future.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I know it sounds bizarre and weird, but it's true. So one of the things they left was a hand-blown glass owl. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And for a second, there's doubt. But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't. So, I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Polgate has supported female athletes for over 50 years with a quarter. Colgate Women's Games.
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Starting point is 00:36:22 So your wellness stays effortless wherever the day takes you. Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit Vital Proteins.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. They had a little cracked wing, but it was placed very carefully next to it. Another thing they left was this, like a brooch in the shape of like this star.
Starting point is 00:36:48 It's like cosmetic jewelry or something. But it was covered in dirt, like it had been packed in dirt. But it's like a fake pearl in the middle with rhinestones going out to where the, you know, the shining parts of the star are. I didn't think anything of it. It's not, well, that's kind of cool and different. So we kept it. You know, later on, these things lined up. One of them was like six months later, another one was like over a year later.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We have them in our window still. They, when we've received quite a bit of things, we have a box. full of other things but these things we left out because we felt like they were they were different from the other things they left us um so this the owl lines up with someone we met later my life's grandmother had passed away and she had wanted she found someone online that would that made jewelry and she wanted to have this peace commission to memorialize her grandmother And the day she was coming to drop it off this lady, I realized that this lady also did, she did glass blowing.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And that's what this piece was. It was a piece of blown glass in a shape of whatever it was. And I went, wait a minute, I had this epiphany. Right when she's pulling up, I went, could you think she made the foul? And my wife said, no way. I'm like, we should ask, just in case. Well, she's in here. and she, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:27 given the jewelich of my wife and we said, hey, can we ask you something? You didn't happen to make this, did you? And I pick it up. And she goes, yeah, did you get in at the shop downtown? Well, no. We found it in the forest.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We didn't want to tell her right away where we found it and how we got it. And she went, what, in the forest? like, yeah. So now we're friends with this person. Come to find out, and she knows now the story,
Starting point is 00:39:05 and she's lining up with her too, because she does all this sort of macabre art, oddities, like oddities, and she does blung glass, and she had to taxidermy and things like that. well for for a couple years now at her house way out in the forest something has been leaving completely cleaned bleached animal bones lined up on a front porch for a couple years now and she uses them for her oddity artwork that she sells at like fairs and gigs like that so that was one of the connections and I thought that was pretty strange.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm like, wow, okay. And I've heard of these things before happening like this. It's a little bit more on what you call the woo-woo side, but to me, you know, a couple things, I think that's just sort of undiscovered science that we're not
Starting point is 00:40:11 quite aware of yet. And it's also what indigenous people all across the world have been talking about for years and years and years, all part of what they know. It's just part of nature and part of science. It's just a different side of it than just the physical. So I think these things are connected and it's some kind of, there's something to do with consciousness, I believe, with all these different things. But that's just my opinion
Starting point is 00:40:39 and from my experiences. So the other thing, the little star brooch, about a year later, my mom was having health issues and I you know I have a care give for both my mother and my mom you know I had to retire being a butcher for years to do these things but it was becoming a lot at that time because they were both so sick so we had a caregiver from an outside company come in to help with my mom you know and she's actually half Eurock from almost down by you know Willow Creek area
Starting point is 00:41:19 near Westville but she lives up here and you know she'd been coming for a couple months and we had sort of talked to her about reconnecting with that part of her of her life and her family
Starting point is 00:41:36 and we got her to do it she was writing letters to her dad and all this things and things were she was feeling better about her life because of that I said it's important You know, it's important to remember who you are and explore who you are, especially if it's, you know, the indigenous sign. A lot of these indigenous family, you go back just a couple generations because of assimilation and things. You don't even know the real history of that part of the family. Like on the family tree, it just stops where basically that part of the family tree a lot of times starts where they are assimilated when they started going Indian school and all this.
Starting point is 00:42:14 so I said it's important you know she did it well she shows up one day wearing this ring and it's an exact replica of this brooch I'm like whoa okay and we even got a picture of it
Starting point is 00:42:30 and I said okay this is for you I go now I know why they gave this to me this is for you and she went wait a minute she goes something told me to wear this ring today I don't know what it was she just said it goes i never wear this ring but something told me to wear it to your house i go well
Starting point is 00:42:50 this is why i said it's yours this is a gift from the hairy folk to you and she's like blown away and i'm like okay it makes sense now why they gave us that so there's these things connections that happen later on and it's just wild stuff and you know it's there's been other things that have been very strange too. Another connection with my wife's grandmother, we had this yard statue that had an angel on it and on the base of it was a bunch of different crystals,
Starting point is 00:43:29 especially quartz crystals, lined up, but different quartz crystals that were embedded in the base, sort of like a cement kind of steel. One of the days that we were coming back from their gifting area. My wife brings up, you know, it's kind of weird, but that statue disappeared in the way it did from our yard.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Now, wait, what? And she goes, yeah, you know, we bought it with us in California. And I kind of forgot about it because there was just so much happening with my life's health issues and everything. Well, it was sort of right in our side yard, right off the door, front door. And I think at the time when she told me about it, you know, because we were from California, and there was a lot of issues with crying down there. I just assumed that someone stole it.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And she goes, no, it disappeared piece by piece. I know, what do you mean? She goes, first it was like the top part of this statue disappeared. Then the whole angel disappeared. And it was just the base left with the crystals. Then piece by piece, the crystals disappeared out of the base. And I went, what? And she goes, yeah, then one day just the base was gone.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And I go, well, that's weird. And we're on the side of town here where there's there's like no crime over here. It's so quiet. And it's not like someone, I don't think that's what happened. Actually, matter of fact, I know it's not what happened because of this incident. So she goes, yeah, when we get back home, we were coming back from the gifting spot. When we get back home, I will show you exactly where. it was or like jar your memory.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I said, okay. So we pull up and she goes over to a point where it was and in its place was this huge pine cone and we don't have
Starting point is 00:45:29 big pine cones here. We have these dug fur cones that are like these tiny long, skinny things. This was like a ponderosa pine cone. Big ball shapes. You know, bigger than a softball. And it was exactly where the statue was. And it wasn't there when we went to the spot. And she's like, what? She picks it up and goes, what is this? And I'm like, okay, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And then I start researching. And these pine cones aren't from this area. There's not. I think maybe the Cascades maybe has some Honderosa Pines, maybe some spots further down the coast. But everything here that I've ever seen in the five, six years of we've lived here is these tiny little dug fur cones.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So that was weirdly kept it. And we said, okay, well, maybe it's connected to it. And we noticed there's possibly a couple hairs in it. So I said, okay, that's pretty strange. So that original gifting spot, we felt one day was compromised. Went back in there and all of a sudden there's around the area is a bunch of marked trees, like maybe Department of Forestry or something went in, their orange spray paint on some of the trees around it. So we said, okay, I think that might be compromised.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Maybe they saw it when they were back there. So I basically held prayer that night. And I'm going to say, I go, okay, there was a to be experiment. Let's see if they hear me. And I said, I put it out there. You know, to me, I call them Chiatonka, elder brother. But I held prayer and I said, okay, I think that spot's compromised. So we're going to try to find a new spot.
Starting point is 00:47:37 We'll be in there to check and see if there's still anything left on the stump, but I feel it has been compromised and we need to find a new spot. It'll be in the general area, but for their back deeper in the forest. We went the next morning. Everything is gone from the stump. The back of the stump, you know, like when trees get cut, there's that sort of knob where the tree fell, the piece that sticks up still on the flat part.
Starting point is 00:48:08 that was snapped off of the back of the stump which you couldn't do with your hands. It was completely broken off and they had used that to scrape all the moss off the top of that stump. I have pictures that too. And you can see where they just scraped it off like almost saying like this is done and then that piece was left next to it. So that was wild. I said, okay, I guess they heard.
Starting point is 00:48:38 A few weeks later We found a new spot Further back in this area And this is a spot where Maybe it's an old tree that got hit by lighting Because it's sort of split There's four pieces that still go up And then it's like a hollowed out area in the middle
Starting point is 00:48:58 So where it's really hidden And when we leave things We covered up with pieces of broken moss and trees So it's completely hidden back there And they started taking stuff from there. Well, in that area, just a few weeks ago, or maybe a couple months ago, we go back to that area and everything's gone again, and they've been taking things regularly. They take a lot more than they have given us, but we've still received things.
Starting point is 00:49:31 We go back to that spot, and there are five pine cones that matched the one that was on our front yard. and there's none of these trees in the area. They're just not there. And they left us these matching pine cones. And they look like they're from the same batch. It's bizarre. One of them looks like almost like it was partially eaten or something. I don't know if they eat them or not.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I don't know. But so now we have in our window. So five more matching giant pine cones aren't from the area that were gifted to us. Um, so there's been a lot of that kind of, uh, events and experiences. Um, I've heard things back there while I was back there at the Gifting area, what sounded like a grumble, but it, it was strange because my wife could shield something at the time, but she didn't hear it. And I don't, it's almost like I didn't hear what I heard it in my ears.
Starting point is 00:50:42 But it sounded like it was coming from all around me. It's the only way I could explain it. Like, it wasn't, like, from a certain area. It was, like, a sound that surrounded me that I felt hard to explain. And it was like this very low-pitched grumble sort of, I remember, almost like it was saying something, but in a difficult language. and very, very deep, very, very deep. That, there's been instances where they've left like six jammed into our,
Starting point is 00:51:24 even the crack in the door in our car when we go back to the car, things like that. We've heard a call from there one time. We hadn't been there for a while, and we showed up. And right when we go to enter the forest in this area, we heard a whoop from back in the forest when we were going in that area. So I don't know if they were like happy to see us or what it was, but there was that.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down, and for a second, there's doubt. But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:52:14 The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't. So, I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Colgate has supported female athletes for over 50 years with the Colgate Women's Games. The Colgate Women's Games is the nation's longest running indoor track. and field series for girls and women. Colgate, your smile is your strength.
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Starting point is 00:53:46 These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. Another incident in that same general area, I was filmed in a music video. I played music. I grew up playing punk rock, and I still do it. But at this time, I was sort of incorporating some indigenous vibes into it, and I was filming this music video for it. And, you know, I went back there, I did some smudging. I played my drum, you know, my deer drum. I played some woodwind because it's incorporated in the song.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And we were just filming those parts. And there was this huge mushroom, giant mushroom. I said, well, it'd be cool if we get that in the shot and I'll smudge right above it, you know. And we were doing that. And this is on video and I left it in the video. I think it's a very end of the music video. I just left it in there as sort of an Easter egg. something called out from the forest
Starting point is 00:54:50 and at the time it's right when I was smudging and it sounded like a call out like an indigenous call out like a Native American call out but it really reverberated and echoed through the whole forest it was very loud there's no one back there
Starting point is 00:55:09 and in the video I said did you hear that and my wife goes yeah I said it sound a native like a native she goes it kind of did But now I'm thinking about it, it just was so loud, I think it might have done one of them, sort of. Because I consider them, you know, they have clans and tribes, I believe. I think they're just, they live in that old way like indigenous people did before Europeans came, but even older.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Maybe they taught indigenous people things. I don't know. I've heard stories where they used to hold flyers together and hold ceremony and things like this. And I've heard stories where, actually, I think on your show, I think I heard someone talking about when they hold ceremony, they show up. And I've heard these things in other places. 100%. It just came up yesterday.
Starting point is 00:56:00 The episode's not out yet. It's very, very interesting. Yeah. And so I think there's a connection to the indigenous part to. And it seems like, you know, I've heard other stories from this area. There's other things that have happened. I told this story about the rock to the lady at the grocery store that we chat with sometimes. And she told me a story of one of these logging areas where there's a logging camp
Starting point is 00:56:33 and somebody stays there overnight to make sure that the equipment doesn't get ripped off or anything like that. well, she had had an experience where all of a sudden there's all these, they're basically yelling, throwing things at the trailer all night long, rocking the trailer, hitting the side of it. She's scared. Before that, she didn't believe in those kind of things. It scared her, you know, scary thing, powerful, powerful beings. Sounds like neighbor they were mad at the logging.
Starting point is 00:57:11 happened all night long until it got lied out and it stopped. She finally realizes they're gone. She goes out in her front door of this trailer. And outside of the trailer, all the way surrounding the trailer are all these sticks, broken sticks stuck into the ground. And that's something that, I don't know if that's a normal thing for them, but it is here. I always can tell when they're in an area because you'll see these sticks stuck into the ground everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:47 That's a thing that they do here. I've even seen them, this is pretty wild, like these stumps, you know, like where they had cut trees down a long time ago, I saw one where it was like this huge limb that was jammed down. so hard with force into the stump like something with so much force drove it down into the stump so there's this stump and then sticking up in the wood of the stump
Starting point is 00:58:21 is another limb sticking straight up. I've seen that I've seen something similar up by the Umpqua River a spot we stop that normally up there the strange piles of rocks with that are in very peculiar patterns and another stump up at that area where there's a bunch of little sticks stuck into the top of this stump and even seeing what looks like riding
Starting point is 00:58:53 on an area by the, I think it's by the Sajosla River. There's like this one little area where there's like some sort of, electrical panel or something like that, but sort of just next to the river. And there was all these what looked like glyphs next to me. You'll see those up here too, a lot of what looks like glyphs. And then there's these glyphs and piles of stones that were on top of this panel. And then what looked like, some of them was taking a skick and like writing something on, it didn't look like English.
Starting point is 00:59:32 It looked like symbols. I've seen that. Recently, we started another gifting area to the north of us. The other ones to the south. This was to the north. It's at the end of this road that turns into a logging road. Nothing up there. Just mountains.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And it's sort of more up inside inland a little bit, not right on the coast. And found this old logging road that's sort of overgrown. that hasn't been used in years. And what walked up it, found this big, giant boulder in this creek. And on the other side of this boulder were these two sort of flat rocks that were leaned up against, well, one was leaned up against the back of this boulder and one was down. I said, well, that might be a good area. I'll use those little flat rocks.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'll leave something on the back side of this boulder and put the flat rocks right up against it. you would never think. I mean, no one's back there anyway, but you would just walk by this huge boulder and not look on the other side. You'd have to think to look back there. I went back in just a few days after leaving a couple gifts. And as soon as I walked back up to it,
Starting point is 01:00:54 the one flat rock that was down, not leaned up against the boulder, was back to its original spot. And I went, oh, okay. very just in the exact spot that I found it originally and the other one was leaned up where originally was two and I looked and everything was gone that was just like a day or two later from the first time so I'm like wow that was quick okay um so we have two two areas now but I really feel like this area they're everywhere
Starting point is 01:01:31 I feel like if there's a We've seen there's a trail That's right along The bay here That people will use all the time I've seen We have a picture of this too Footprints
Starting point is 01:01:47 Bare footprints Coming up out of the water Up into the brush And it's you can't really get down This area but when the When the tide was low You could see the mud you know And it was a single line
Starting point is 01:02:00 Like you they say like we walk side to side sort of, and it looks like they're walking a tightrope. That's what these footprints we're doing coming up out of the bay. So I think they use the waterways here. You know, there's people have oyster traps out here, and there's all kinds of different fish in this, you know, in this system here. There's salmon. There's shellfish. There's the cockles.
Starting point is 01:02:26 There's. So I think that's a big thing. here for their food source, along with all the deer that are up on the mountains and everything else. It buries everywhere. But it seems this area, there's a lot of activity.
Starting point is 01:02:46 A few months ago, right before wintertime, it was in fall. We have another friend who was my life's mentor when she first started going into her abilities, let's basically say.
Starting point is 01:03:00 this lady was sort of teaching her and this she's i think uh patchy half or quarter apache but she's down in southern california she called up my wife and said and she doesn't really so much believe in sasquatch but something was coming to her and this lady is extremely gifted she's worked with police departments down there and everything for crime uh extremely gifted uh she pulled my wife to tell me that they are waiting for me to go camping by myself out there. And I said, oh, okay, my wife told me, and I go, well, that's going to be kind of weird. But I was like, okay, if that's what they were on, I believe that there's what she's saying. So I went out and I camp for a few days in this private camping area that sort of backs up to the Costa Range.
Starting point is 01:04:00 sort of right off up from the ocean a little bit, but it's right where the hills of the coastal range start. And that's a private campground. And this was the time of year where there was only one other person in this whole big camping area. And they were towards the front and I was way in the back. And these people just came in for the night and then left the next morning. But so I went out and I fasted. I just took a tiny bit of water in case I got a little.
Starting point is 01:04:30 a little bit thirsty. Try it at my best to not drink any water. Didn't eat me food. And I just held fire. I bought my drum. I brought my guitar. I sang.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I played drum. I held prayer. And it was phenomenal. I had, you know, I had, you know, huge birds landing above me, these trees, eagles and,
Starting point is 01:04:56 and, I think it was a herring. A herring. and just it was phenomenal and I could hear the elk rooting against the trees I could just and I can hear him bugling it was amazing so that first night
Starting point is 01:05:11 I fell asleep and I didn't have a tent with me and it was kind of sort of misting so I just said well I'll sleep in the car I guess and I'll leave the windows down and do my best to get some rest and so that night same thing. I have this weird dream.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And I've been having these dreams since that first one. I've had one family of all black ones come to me and say, thank you for adding us to your prayer. We hear you every time. And it was like a family with little ones that were like chopped up in these trees all shy. It seemed like I was talking to a man. I've had that.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I've had other ones where they show me that they can shape shift. Like I've had a really strange dream where I can see a group of them coming and they're tall, skinny black ones. And they're kind of coming through the bush. And as they come out, they're walking past me, they shape shift into humans, which I don't know if they could do. I have no idea. But in the dream, they were showing, and they were doing that, but they were really tall, European-looking, long, blonde-haired, kind of goofy-looking humans, which was really strange to me. Like, well, that makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:06:44 But the woman says, we can do this if you want to. Well, and I had this one, okay, and I woke up to that, you know. but when I was camping, similar thing, a big, tall, blonde, long-haired European guy, but he was very tall, walks by me in this dream that I was having. All of a sudden, it shakes me out of the dream, where it's just him, and he's walking by me, sort of smile on his face.
Starting point is 01:07:16 He sits down in front of me and then starts morphing into a saucequatch. I snap out of the dream right there. It was bizarre. I snap out of it and I went, whoa, what the heck? And I go, are they here? You know? And there was nothing at that second, outside or anything. But just about an hour later, I looked over and to my right, I see red eyes.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And they're at ground level. When I see them, they're on the ground. But all I see is that was so dark. there. But as soon as I see him, they slowly raise up to about eight foot off the ground and go to the right and just spear behind the trees. And I said, oh, they are here. Okay. So, and it was close to me, probably 30, 40 feet. Didn't see any body because it was so dark, but I clearly saw what looked like electric red eyes. I mean, it looked like, it looked like electricity in those eyes so like electric looking like nothing in nature it was it was strange
Starting point is 01:08:36 and I've heard that you know said they can have that well I saw it with my own eyes so have that experience the next night nothing happened it rained all night but yeah they were there they were there I tried to leave gifts for them that night they didn't take anything. No movement on that. But I had that strange dream and I saw their eyes. So, and it's all in this general area, all in Coos County, you know, whether it's south or east or north of Coos Bay itself, but it's in Coos County. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my
Starting point is 01:09:26 team down, and for a second, there's doubt. But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at, the early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't. So, I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Colgate has supported female athletes for over 50 years with the Colgate Women's Games. The Colgate Women's Games is the nation's longest running indoor track and field series for girls and women. Colgate, your smile is your strength. Life with CIDP can be tough, but the Thrive Team, a specialized squad of experts, helps people living with CIDP make more room in their lives for joy. Watch Rare, well done.
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Starting point is 01:11:01 Visit VitalProtene's.com and get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. You know, I don't know if you've seen what's the movie documentary, Flash of Beauty, Paranormal Bigfoot. Oh, absolutely. So the story of the guys that saw they were in,
Starting point is 01:11:32 by a coquille outside of cokeel they're going to work and they saw one on the side of the road they're turning to an orange first a ball and then a square and then shot off i know exactly that area wow i triangulated that area because they said it was right by this campground outside this area i'm actually actually matched up i found it on google earth oh yeah okay i know that spot So that's right over the hill from us. It's literally, we've driven out in that area, and we've seen all kinds of evidence of their broken trees and sticks up in the ground.
Starting point is 01:12:13 That's just, you know, all's over the hill from us. So that's all in this area too. There's a lot of activity out here. It's absolutely fascinating. First, thank you for sharing some really, really personal things that you've experienced over the years regarding this. Thanks for letting me get it off my chest. I have not shared this with anyone except for close family and a couple friends.
Starting point is 01:12:43 But I think it was time for me to share. They kind of put that into me that it's time to share. I feel like they're reaching out to certain people that are ready for it, I guess. I don't know, but it seems to be happening. That is something that I hear every once in a while on this show. And I don't know if I've ever mentioned it publicly, but there are certain times when people that I've talked to, sometimes with the Native American background,
Starting point is 01:13:20 I'll be like, why did you reach out to me? And they're like, well, because the spirits told me to. and that does happen with psychic people as well. Well, of course, they're referring to different things, but pretty much something is saying that, and this is just hypothetical, but something is saying for certain people to reach out now is the time.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And it's very interesting. Yeah, yeah, I think that it's, they want people to talk about these things now. It's gotten to a point, I guess, you know, with whatever's happening in the world. You know, I think that the forest and the lands and the waters, you know, it's, I think they're wanting to spread awareness about how important these things are and that we're just an extension of the Earth and we're basically the Earth's children, you know. And I believe that's sort of, I believe they have spirituality. And it seems like much deeper than we do.
Starting point is 01:14:29 But that's just kind of the feeling that I'm getting. And I do believe there's some sort of connection to consciousness with all these things. Along with my UFO experiences, I've had wild UFO experiences. They've been right over me. There was a time when my mom was real sick a couple years ago that it was like every night, every other night they were out here, kind of reminding me of like, let's have happening with Chris Bledsoe. They were here all the time. They were here all the time. And that's kind of why I started putting my music out by myself. You know, I was in punk
Starting point is 01:15:05 bands and stuff in California and I had kind of given up on it because my wife's health and everything. And I had an experience where I was out walking the dog and there was a light above me, right above me. And at that time, I had seen so much it didn't startle me. I actually, pointed at it and said, gotcha. And as I did that, it disappeared like it was almost playing with me. But as I was walking in, I almost caught myself talking to myself on my breath saying, okay, I will put my music out. I will do it. I just have to figure out the technology behind it. I have to start from scratch. I will do it. I promise. And I went, hey, minute, who am I talking to? I got this download to do it. Since then, I've recorded and produced 300 songs. And I was just
Starting point is 01:15:53 like three years ago. So, so it's, there's, there's strange things in this world that, you know, a lot of people think are woo and this and that. I think it's just part of nature and part of science. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think maybe we'll get to the point where that term isn't even brought up anymore because it's just, it's just so ingrained, you know, there's no apology needed for anymore, right?
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah, and to me, it's almost like a derogatory. term that to make people think I don't want to say that because I don't look crazy. At this point, who cares? Who cares? Whatever, you know, I know my experiences. My family's been with me. I've had friends with me that I've experienced it. I'm not worried about it. Absolutely. There's probably a few listeners that are wanting me to ask if you still have the film that was taken of what was on the rock by the ocean. Yeah. It's. Yeah, it was digital. But yeah, I have, we have, I have both from the camera, which is better quality and my phone.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Now, like I said, we didn't get it when it jumped off, but I have it before. And I could probably send you a couple copies just so you can take a look at it yourself. And I'll just sort of, maybe I'll do a screenshot because I really don't want the location getting out. Yeah, absolutely. And actually, that's a great thing. aside for everyone to hear. When you send video and photos and stuff regarding this, make sure the location is off. iPhones make it really easy to not include location, but just keep in mind you're sending where it was taken whenever you send the photos and
Starting point is 01:17:39 the videos. Exactly. And that's why I'm like, I don't, you know, I'll figure out a way to either, I don't know if I could go on my camera and turn that off or if I just do a screenshot of the picture. I don't know, but I could send you copies of that. And especially the close-ups that I took and I turned the saturation up and the, I think the definition or whatever it was, you can really get a good sense of the shape of it. And it was obvious. That's what it is. But I didn't even need to do that because I saw what happened afterwards.
Starting point is 01:18:12 But it's very interesting. And, yeah, you can see in the picture of the boat next to it. and I'm not sure you might even be able to see the whale breaching in one of them. That was sort of further out. And that's another thing. It was like, was this South Squatch, and I call them people myself, I think there's a type of people. Was this Scottsch-Watch person watching this whale? Was it communicating with this whale?
Starting point is 01:18:42 It seemed to be facing it. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt.
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Starting point is 01:20:37 These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Sitting there facing this whale. Interesting. So another strange thing about it. But, yeah, I could send you pictures of that. I could say you pictures of, from the gifting era. and the things they've left us, all that stuff. Yeah, anything that you would be able to send over,
Starting point is 01:21:03 I'd love to take a look at it, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, another thing that happened recently was the road was shut up at the top where our normal gift-stering area was. So we were down at this lawn area that's down below it, and we noticed this big spot in the lawn that had to dug up. And there was no claw marks in this. It looked like something was digging with its hands.
Starting point is 01:21:26 huge three, four foot wide hole in this lawn that was just dug up. And like I said, you couldn't see any claw marks. Like it wasn't a, you think if it was a bear, you'd be able to see that. So we were walking up away from it. And on this trail, it was real muddy. It was right after the storms. We saw a single print. I'm a size 12, and it was probably two inches longer than my feet.
Starting point is 01:21:57 foot, no tread from a shoe. You could kind of see toes in it. And it was walking away from that area. And then another 15 or 20 feet, they're thrown aside on this trail was a mole that had been split in half and looked like its guts were sucked out. And it was just, the body was discarded there. Oh, dear. So I think it was digging for that mole, had a self a snack as it was walking away and then suck the guts and left the rest of the body down. So it seemed like that was and I've seen other prints down in that area too. I have pictures of those two.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Wow. Oh my goodness. It's an active area. It's an active area. It definitely sounds like it. There's and this is a thing. We'll just if we can leave it and we'll leave it in. But so I know you're going by first name only for this which is great a lot of people do. I'm sure there's a few listeners that were like,
Starting point is 01:23:00 man, I wish I could listen to his music, which does put you in an interesting situation. Yeah. Is that anything where you can share your music without giving away who you are or? Yeah, you could go to, I have a YouTube. It's Son of Snake is the name of the band. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:22 So it's Sun underscore of underscore. snake on YouTube and I have probably a couple hundred songs up there you know originally when I first started recording up here you can see it here at how it's kind of rough sounding and it's gotten better as it's gone along just because I'm learning the ropes of home recording you know I used to all the all the bands I was in before I was in a band called snag I was in a band called flush Gordo a bunch of bands from the 80s backstacks and everything. Did some touring with Flesh Grotto,
Starting point is 01:23:59 and we run a record label, both Snags. Son of Snake is what I call this solo project that I'm doing, and I do it all myself, guitar, bass, vocals, program the drums. I don't have a drum set, but that name is an ode to an ancestral grandfather of mine from the Dakota Nation. And his, he was,
Starting point is 01:24:23 I don't know if you heard the town Wabashah, Minnesota. Sure. Yeah. Well, that was named after my ancestral grandfather's son. Oh, wow. That was Wabasha the second. My ancestral grandfather was Wabasha the first, but his name given to him from the Chippewa tribe at the time that was in that upper part of the Minnesota, the Mississippi River up there, was Well, the Sioux, what they call the Sioux, that's actually a Chippewa name, a Jibwa name, of snakes in the grass. And that was given to the Lakota tribe because of the way they were attacked. They call them snakes in the grass. There was a short time when the Chippewa tribe and the Dakota tribe were intermarrying,
Starting point is 01:25:17 and there was about 70 years of peace. And that's why I have both blooded me, Dakota and Chippewa. But his name was, his other name, you know, they have multiple names. And one of them was Atte Pankoam Dishka, which is great father of snakes. And he was chief, you know. And so there was chiefs on both the Dakota side and the Chippewa side. And country clan woman from the Chippewa side, which is another one of my ancestral grandmothers was Utenoasis. Very well-known last country clan woman of the Pembollah.
Starting point is 01:25:53 being a Chippewa nation. She was a spiritual leader, you know, and very gifted. And that's kind of where that comes from on that side of the family. But Son of Snake was a sort of an ode to great father of snakes. That is so cool. I love that. What was the, is the video on that channel where you had the music video and then it captured that sound in the background? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yeah, you'll have to go back a little bit. It's like the newer songs are kind of going back to my hardcore punk roots. Okay. But about a year or two ago, I was kind of doing more punk and roll stuff with indigenous mixing. And this song was called pulse pace. Like as in the pulse of the earth. And that's what the drum beat is supposed to represent, a pulse of the earth. You know, the heartbeat of the earth.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Absolutely. So that song is called pulse pace. And if you watch it to the very end, you can see that spot where you'll probably have to wear headphones because, you know, it was recorded on a phone. So it doesn't do justice to what we heard with our ears, but you can hear it. It's basically, the song kind of ends
Starting point is 01:27:09 that I'm smudging over this mushroom. And I have this tattoo on my thumb. And it's right when my wife says, I can see your fish hook tattoo on your thumb. Right when she says that, there's a call that goes what in the background and you'll have to
Starting point is 01:27:25 probably wear headphones or turn it way up you can hear it on there I left that I'm there as an Easter egg didn't really tell anybody you know but I guess now people will know that's awesome yeah I can't wait to check it out I'm sure I recommend everyone else go check it out too but Chris has been
Starting point is 01:27:41 such a fascinating conversation with you I mean being able to listen to everything you've experienced and that you're continuing to experience and thank you so much for taking the time to come on the show and to share what you've experienced it's extremely insightful well i appreciate you having me on and it was it was good to get these things off my chest and i think it was time and it's necessary i think that if people are having these experiences they should be talking about them at this point the world needs it needs some healing thanks for listening to bigfoot society and also a special thanks to chris
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