Bigfoot Society - The White Sasquatch of the Quabbin | Massachusetts
Episode Date: September 2, 2025What happens when a quiet hike near the Quabbin Reservoir turns into a confrontation with something impossible? In this chilling episode, we sit down with John Coster — songwriter, author, Harvard g...raduate — to hear the story of his life-changing encounters with a towering, white-haired Sasquatch in the forests of Western Massachusetts.From eerie silences and giant handprints on his car, to thunderous whistles in the woods, trees bent with impossible force, and even a massive boulder hurled into the lake — John’s story is one of the most interesting and compelling Bigfoot encounters ever recorded in New England.You’ll hear about sightings in Pelham, the hidden wilderness of the Quabbin, strange footprints near the Prescott Peninsula, and the long history of Sasquatch lore across Hampshire County and beyond down to Granville. Could these creatures still be haunting Massachusetts’ forgotten forests?Resources: Convergence: Encounters with an Impossible Being - buy link - https://amzn.to/3UERbNR (Amazon affiliate link helps support the podcast)https://www.johncostermusic.com/🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters
from people who say they've seen something impossible.
From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways,
the stories come from everywhere and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way
you see the woods forever.
So stay with us.
All right, Bickford Society.
You've got the privilege of talking to John Koster today.
John is an individual I got connected to.
He is a songwriter, musician, author, and a Harvard graduate.
And he's on the show to share about his encounters out there in Western Massachusetts
that are written about in his book, Convergence Encounters with an Impossible Being,
which isn't a fantastic read.
I've read it as well.
And before I hand things over to John,
I just want to say this is a privilege to have John on the show.
Longtime listeners will know that I grew up in Northfield,
which is the northern part of the Pioneer Valley.
So I've always tried my hardest to get individuals on
that would talk about places like the Coabin or Amherst, Hadley, Greenfield,
Northfield, Gill, and it's really, really, really hard to get those individuals on.
So it's great to be able to talk to an individual who kind of mentions locations in that general area in his book.
But welcome to the show, John.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing great.
So thanks for having me.
And I had forgotten that you were from this part of the country.
That's very interesting, yeah.
Absolutely, you know.
And it's a thing where there, as you.
As you know, there's more with Bigfoot that goes on in this part of the country than most people know because it's not really talked about publicly.
And when I lived there growing up, I wasn't really in that mindset.
So I wasn't going out and, you know, into the different state forests and exploring for that.
But now I'm like, oh, I got to get back there and kind of look at this a different way.
But, you know, John, your story is incredible.
and I've read your book and there's so much to it.
So, you know, would you mind kind of walking us through sharing what you've experienced over the years and how this all started for you?
No, not at all.
Well, first of all, my own encounter or the encounter I had with my partner of the time and very close friend forever,
was the last thing in the world that I expected. Now, having said that, I have to admit and confess that I had had since early childhood a kind of a fascination with Bigfoot slash the Abominable Snowman. I mean, I can remember as a young boy reading some kind of a, I think there was an article about the Abominable Snowman in Argosy magazine.
And that's a long, long, long time ago.
Many years later, I found myself at Harvard.
And in order to pass, I was studying history and literature.
And in those ways, and I think it was true today, we all, we had to pass and certainly,
we had to take at least a full year of science.
And I ended up studying human evolution, which needless to say,
made us
take a look at a lot of the
close cousins that we have, as a matter of fact,
and close cousins in our evolutionary past,
and that field is just dramatically exploded.
So now that there's, here it is all these years later,
there's not just Neanderthal and Peking,
man, there's all these, everything in between.
You know, there's all sorts of hominins or hominids,
depending on your classification stuff.
a lot of close relatives to men, the living ones as well as the past ones,
that some of whom led to our line of, you know, our human beings, as far as we understand things today.
So, but having said that, every once in a while, I read something about Sasquatch in the Northwest or something like that,
and I was always kind of interested in the subject.
partly because based on the science studies that I had back in Cambridge in those days,
it might seem like, well, you know, when you consider how the ice ages came and went during the Pleistocene
and a lot of really violent weather changes happened, and there were all these big forms of animals,
like we had giant, everything was bigger.
We had a lot of giant creatures.
We had, you know, gigantic slas, and we had mammoths.
We had all these creatures that were called megafa,
And even though anything over 100 pounds, including us, is technically megafauna.
Nevertheless, it made a lot of sense that some primate would have adapted to the comings and goings of the Ice Age as during that period, that really long formative period called the Pleistocene, which only ended at the end of the last Ice Age system.
And so we're kind of like barely out of it if you'll think of things in terms of geological time.
So I just thought, well, a big, big, you know, ape-like creature that's a close relative of man,
it's almost would be as surprising if something like that didn't exist.
So that was kind of my background, but I haven't really thought about any of this for a long time.
And then I was living with my friend at that time.
And up or at the beginning of this recent encounter, up in Pelham,
Massachusetts and we were about, oh, just maybe a crow flies, four or five miles from the
Coabin Reservoir, which is a very big wilderness area. The Coabin, it's people referred to it as
the accidental wilderness. Basically, back I think it was in the late 30s, the state developed
the plan to dam up some of the rivers that ran through an old farming valley. And they built an
enormous reservoir. That reservoir
is a major source of water for parts of eastern
Massachusetts like Boston and
places like that. So it's very important.
And it's important to keep the area really clean
and wild because you don't want development
around a reservoir.
And it's a big reservoir. It has about
140 miles of shoreline
with a lot of wild
forest surrounding it. I forget how many.
It's like 150
I forget the numbers of acres,
but there's lots of square miles,
a very wild country,
all around it.
And actually where we were living at the time,
there was even another big wildlife preserve
between us and the highway.
And on the other side of that
was the whole quab and forest preserve.
So there's a lot.
Everything is there that ever was here.
I mean, everybody that I know
that's spent a lot of time there and basically admits that there are the occasional cougar wandering through,
and there are these big, big coyote wolf hybrids or whatever they are.
We've seen now.
And so, and their moose are common, relatively speaking.
So the wildlife has kind of come back.
So if you were going to encounter something strange, it was a pretty good area to encounter it.
Well, anyhow, to get to the beginning of the story, which I described,
in the book,
one day,
it was in September,
actually was the,
what's it, the Equinox, right?
September 22nd,
we decided to take a hike in that area
because we were typically doing a lot of hiking,
it's something we've always done.
And so
we went over to this particular area
and we're hiking
down to a spot that's,
really beautiful spot where you can look out over the water and, you know, see nothing.
And you could, you could imagine yourself somewhere in the wilderness.
I mean, you're, you're not far from civilization, but you can't see a single sign of it.
You can look out and you can imagine yourself in some big wildlife park out in the West or something,
you know.
And it got to be toward evening.
And we decided it was, well, it's time to get.
headed home, you know.
And so we started walking up this trail
that's maybe a half mile long.
It wasn't that very long to where you could park a car.
And the first thing that I noticed
maybe even unconsciously, now that I
think about it,
was that everything got very, very quiet.
And if you know the woods in New England,
you understand that mid to late September,
particularly in the evening time around six and stuff,
when the sun's just beginning to get low, but it's still pretty light out.
It's a very loud time.
All the bugs and the crickets and everything,
they really go into the crescendo at the end of summer.
And so we're walking along.
And I remember feeling just a strange kind of uneasiness,
which I couldn't put my finger on now that I think back upon it,
probably had to do with a strange silence.
because even if I didn't register it consciously,
the place was really quiet.
All of the woods were really quiet.
And so we're walking along up this trail.
And to our right, there's an area that maybe had been logged out,
maybe five or ten years previously.
In that area, there's a certain amount of logging is allowed,
and it's all done with an eye toward, you know,
maintaining the forest in a good state, but they do take timber out of there periodically in certain sections.
And this is one of those areas.
So you had a wide view over maybe 100 yards or something at least.
And I'm just walking along, feeling a little strange for no reason that I could put my finger on.
And then all of a sudden I turned around because I noticed that my friend Donna was not,
all of a sudden she wasn't right by my side and I looked around and she was scaring off into
across this sort of brushy area that had been logged out and she had this very perplexed look
on her face and she said something to the effect of and it was a very strange question she said
is it possible for a moose to be white and I'm thinking that's a weird question but of course
every once in a while you have an albino deer
and maybe once in every 10 years
somewhere in the world there's an albino moose, I don't know,
but these things happen.
And I said, well, I don't know.
And then she described that she'd see something
and the reason she said moose is because it was so tall.
And the only thing that we were aware of
that could be really big and be any strange color
would be a moose because they're like seven feet at the shoulder.
I mean, I've had them run right by and it's amazing how big they are.
and so I didn't know
and then and then she started saying
describing that she'd seen something and it was white
and the white was really clear it was a bright sunny day
even though the sun's way low and horizon but it was still bright
and she described as being very white like noticeably white like shiny white
and as well as being tall
and she said there was something in it
seemed to be looking from behind trees, and then she gradually started describing a creature with arms swinging, walking on two legs, which obviously is not a moose.
Now, and she was totally fascinating, and we had very, very different responses.
and I immediately, and this is something which I'll always remember very clearly,
as she was just like standing there, almost like she wants to go walking off in the direction of whatever this creature was.
I simultaneously in contrast, I became overcome with a kind of panic.
Now, I cannot exactly explain that because if somebody told you that there was a really terrible looking crazy thing out in the front yard and you looked out the window and you didn't see anything near, you probably wouldn't normally panic.
So whether this is something that you can attribute to the stories that people say that a Sasquatch can project sort of energy and create fear in people, didn't create it in her.
it created into me.
I was really, really scared.
And so I kind of like grabbed her by the hand and said,
look, I think we better get out of here.
It's time to move.
She didn't want it.
She was kind of like, why are you so freaked out, right?
You know, and I couldn't really explain it.
But anyhow, I convinced her that it was time to go.
And so we moved, we headed up the path.
Me, well, I'm thinking because of my background in the subject from years before.
I haven't thought about this.
So it was the last thing in my mind at this point in my life.
But it did bring back memories of my interest in not only the course and evolution
that I had taken back at Harvard all those years before, but even earlier when I was, you know,
kind of interested in the stories of the abominable snowmen.
So anyhow, we got back to Qatar, drove back to the place that we were living, which at the time was an 18,
century restored very small house. It had been built by a saddlemaker actually in the first year of
George Washington's presidency. And the guy that owned it had restored it. So the environment was,
and it was right next to the edge of this other big, big forest, which in turn was next to the
Covent Forest. So it was a real rural setting, to put it mildly, and kind of picker-esque or
picturesque. And so she was all kind of like amazed and she has, she's got more sensitivity and
she's got more abilities in some way than I do by a lot. She's also like one of those people
is really smart in ways that I'm not, you know, one of those people that can do math and do all
sorts of high science and everything really much more easily than I ever could. So she's
She's the opposite of being flaky.
She's very emotional and empathic,
which is really, really brilliant
in ways that I'm not gifted in those ways.
And so she's the last thing from,
she's a very rational person.
And so I just said,
well, I immediately had thought
Sasquatch or something like that
because it's a subject I've been interested in.
So I said to myself,
well,
let's just Google
Sasquatch at the Quabin
Reservoir.
And we did that.
And lo and behold, we're immediately taken to a
video of some guy
who
seemed to be a little flaky to me.
But he
was talking to
another guy who was just a local fisherman.
Your typical outdoors guy
that likes to go fishing in the
quabin. And
that guy was
explaining how he had been at in an area about a mile from where we were, you know, just doing
one of the normal fishing excursions. And he'd seen this creature that was very, very tall and
walking on two legs with long arms and white walking through the woods.
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to make of it.
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day, you know, I think it was a weekend day. I'm trying to remember, but we felt like we had to
clear our heads and we wanted to go take a, we wanted to go take a hike, but we did not want
to go back to the club and I was too freaked out. And I think she was a little freaked out.
And yeah, I like to collect rocks. And so we went to some really nice stream beds up the other side
the county up in
the other side of the
Connecticut River, some real beautiful
deep ravines and creeks where you can
there's really good rock collecting
and it was a beautiful day and it was
warm and it was
oh we've still got to get outside and we'll just
got to collect ourselves so we drove up
there just to do something different
but to keep you know not to let
the sunny day pass us by
and um
so we got
we got to this
pull-off spot
and parked the car
which in those days was a little red
Honda
CRV, an old
CRV.
And
there was one of those
steel fences you have to sort of
hit yourself up and put your leg over
and get the other leg over
and I was just in the middle of
getting over the fence and then
and I could see that she was
looking at the hood of the car
and she said, hey, look at this.
And so I said,
I said, okay. So I got back to the
roadside of the fence and came over
and there on the hood of the car
there was
clearly, it was faint
and you could only see it when you had to get the light
just right. But there
looked to me to be.
an enormous handprint.
Now this is the car that we had parked
down at the quabin,
you know, the day before when we'd have this
completely weird experience.
And I have pictures. They're in my book.
I just whipped out my iPhone and took a couple of pictures of it.
And you can see that handprint.
And I'm not making this stuff up.
and it's like twice as big as my hand.
And it almost looks like, well, you know,
if it's a sweaty day and your hands are dirty,
you put your hands on a car.
Anybody, you'll see that you'll leave handprints on a car,
like fingerprints only.
They're exaggerated under those circumstances.
And so that was kind of the beginning of this whole journey,
and it lasted.
that was in September.
It pretty much lasted for the next year.
You know, she stayed in that house a little longer than I did.
I moved out to another place back in the town of North Hampton,
but we always stayed very close and in touch.
And even before, while we were still there together,
a lot of anomalous, strange experiences
happened during that whole winter
that follow the encounter.
And that's kind of what this book is about.
And to this day,
I have a very hard time.
The reason I say impossible being
is because it's a being,
it makes no sense there's something like this
wandering around within 10 miles
of the University of Massachusetts
and close to some pretty major towns, you know.
And yet it makes no sense that random people are describing the same thing
if it doesn't exist people who have no connection to each other
as we have no connection to those two people who we encountered in that video.
It makes no sense that random people are describing the same thing
if it doesn't have some existence in the real world.
So we went to a whole series of,
of bizarre things. Sometimes it seemed like there was a sort of a
poltergeist-like activity happening in the house.
Donna occasionally found things that looked like little tokens.
I came away believing that the interest
that this creature had was in her and not in me, for sure.
I think that she has a particular...
I mean, we do a lot of hiking together. Every time we hike,
It always seems like the animals make themselves appear.
She's got a very pure, benign presence, and I think she sort of brings out the wildlife.
Creatures kind of trust her or something, and when they see her, they recognize something.
I don't know.
I'm just wildly speculating.
But I went through the up and downs of belief and disbelief, and then, and frankly, in a way that I'm not really proud of,
I became more public about it,
was to her it was a private experience.
I understand that now better than I did then.
She didn't want to be blabbing on about it.
And I was all excited about what was going on.
And to me, it answered a lot of questions
that I'd always had based on my academic background
in the subject years ago.
But I feel like I was kind of insensitive on that front.
But she had a deeper connection to what was.
going on in reality than I did.
I was more like the objective bystander
making the during the narrative in some ways
like the guy Marlowe and Conrad's novels
about things going on on
ocean voyages.
But at any rate,
you know, to this day, I don't know exactly what to make
of the experience, except that a lot of strange
stuff happened and that's what I wrote about.
I decided I would just keep a
of it. And she did her own writing about it. And for a while, we did these two parallel things
we wrote together. And then eventually I just, we both, we ended up doing our separate projects.
She has done some writing about it herself. And I might send you links to her stuff
as well, to the extent that she wants it out there. I'm not sure about that. And at any
At times, I really felt like we were under some kind of spell during that period, the period of that winter and on into the spring a little bit. And sometimes it would all seem completely unreal. We had various weird encounters. I mean, I remember one in which I came back from working downtown. And we both knew that simultaneously we had decided.
that we were going to go take a walk back to that part of the quadven where we haven't been in a long time.
And we just knew it, and we barely had to speak to each other.
We knew that we were going to go back there.
Okay, we're going to go back there that day.
And we went back there that day, and then it was another beautiful day,
and it wasn't like there was anything completely strange going on.
and we were walking along a trail.
And all of a sudden, I heard a whistle coming from our right as we were walking basically
in the direction where we parked the car.
And the whistle was louder than anything I've ever heard in my life.
It was like a referee, you know, like a football referee's whistle.
It's like there was a football referee about, you know, 10 yards away.
underbrush. We couldn't see anything. Absolutely everything looked normal. Didn't see anything.
This enormous whistle erupted out of the brush and a flock of turkeys went scurrying across the road.
That was it. Just that one whistle, but that whistle was unlike anything I've ever heard. And then if you look at
Sasquatch lore, I didn't even realize this until after that fact. You find that Native Americans in the Northwest always carved pictures of the
softwatch with its mouth or its lips, pursed, and whistling.
Evidently, that's part of this whole syndrome or not syndrome of this whole behavior pattern,
of whatever this creature is.
And then there was sort of what was a climax to me of that period of my life and our lives,
you know, particularly for me.
More things happened to her, and she, like I say, was in many ways more connected.
So when I describe those things in the book, I am, sometimes I'm experiencing things,
but I was keeping a journal of events because I knew I would forget about this stuff.
And even to this day, there's things I won't remember unless I go back and read it.
So when I finished up the book, I edited it for grammar and stuff like that,
but I wasn't making stuff up that I hadn't recorded as it happened,
because I knew it was also weird it would go in one ear and out to the other for something like that.
But what for me was kind of a climax was that at one point we were hiking back in the same gate.
They said they call them gates.
There's places where you can park a car and you can walk into the quabin.
It's open to fishing and recreational hiking.
You can't take dogs in there.
You have to have a license to go fishing or to do any boating.
It's strictly regulated because it's a very,
ecologically sensitive place.
So we're walking along the shoreline
very near where this thing had happened and all of a sudden
the rock that was bigger than I could have thrown,
came sailing out through the trees and landed
in the water with a big splash.
I guessed it was maybe 30 yards out in the water.
And that was something that no mortal man
could have ever done.
You know, I'm sure of that.
And that was another, that was
was sort of a, for me, not necessarily for her, that was the last really concrete manifestation
of this phenomenon. And then later, I think if I recall correctly, it's all there in the book.
At the end of that summer, when neither of us was living there again, but occasionally
would go back, at one point it seemed like there was another handprint on the car.
which almost symbolically seemed like to me it felt like a goodbye or the end of this bizarre experience,
which I can't really explain because even though I can think of a quote,
theoretically what a soft spot is and look at it through the eyes of somebody that,
you know, in another lifetime I might have gone on and become an anthropologist or something.
I was always into that stuff, you know, but that's not the way life worked out for me.
So it seems almost like a bookend to the experience of that first day and the second day where a handprinted had appeared on the car.
So that's kind of a nutshell summation of the whole thing.
And it's interesting, too, that other reports historically have occurred in that same.
area. I did find out during this period that a guy who I was aware of, who was kind of
it was a very famous Harvard anthropologist named Carlton Coon. And he was a physical
anthropologist and he taught it hard for a number of years long before I went
there. I think he left in the 50s or retired or whatever. He's
He had passed away before my time.
But he became very interested in the subject.
And based on reports that eventually that I learned
were maybe over the border in New Hampshire,
about 30 miles away from where the Kwaven actually is,
he'd gone out and had his own investigation.
And he basically,
somebody, some campers had described having your camper, like a VW camper, rocking back and forth when they woke up one morning, like somebody big was pushing it around, and they freaked out, and they said there were these big footprints.
And Cartland Coon had heard enough of these stories, so he decided to go out that way.
And he took plaster casts of those footprints.
And he eventually came to the conclusion, consulting with some other people,
I think a couple of other anthropologists in Pennsylvania, which was another hot spot traditionally.
He came to the conclusion that he said, well, the most logical explanation is it's somewhere that in North America,
there is a small population of very big, really large, unidentified primates.
That was a tenured professor at Harvard.
Once again, he was not popular.
He was tenured, but he ruffled a lot of feathers.
He was very politically incorrect because he talked about differences in different populations
in terms of the physical and mental characteristics.
And that was something that was politically as incorrect as you could get.
and given the mixed-up population we have on the planet, it doesn't have a meaning anymore anymore.
So that was an interesting footnote to the whole thing.
So that, in a nutshell, is the story.
And a lot of the weird stuff that happened in between is in the book, you know, blow by blow day by day.
It is really a fascinating story.
And you're absolutely right.
Many more details.
But I do have some questions for you, absolutely.
just so the listener knows what year did this start to happen.
This whole long series of encounters, it happened, started in September 2014.
And by 2015, we had both moved to different places.
We were always in touch.
And to this day, we still will go back and take hikes there.
you know and
but
it was so
it was basically
the intense part particularly for me
was sort of the autumn
early autumn of 2014
all the way through
the following year
and it's those dates
are right I think the dates are right in the book
there so
so that's
that's the time frame
yeah
You mentioned that Donna at points would find tokens around different areas.
Can you share a little bit about what kind of things were maybe being left in a gifting situation?
I remember, I think once there was, sometimes it would just be a really interesting little block.
It looked kind of like gem like.
And we can't, we couldn't tell, and she's the last person in the world who would say,
oh, I can disprove that somebody was, you know, this amazing creature was giving me gifts.
She's not trying, once again, this woman is as rational and academically brilliant as you're going to find.
It kicks my butt all the time.
Anyhow, but they did show up, and the other thing was blue jay feathers,
which seemed to show up when you weren't expecting them.
And that seemed to be happening.
And there was another guy, we mentioned Nass.
Another guy went through this other guy.
I can't even remember now how we ran into him.
And he was going through similar experiences.
And he had had another, he had had another sighting of something big and white at the quabin.
And somebody put us in touch with him.
I've lost track of him.
I think that she may still be in touch with him periodically.
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All of our lives have changed dramatically,
you know, since those days.
There was one point when, you know,
she had sort of symbolically left a necklace
sort of buried in a spot where nobody would find it.
And when we went back there,
it was gone, and I don't know how that was gone.
You know, there was a time when, and there's pictures of this in the book,
where there was a one of the trails that we typically took, because we were always hiking
in these areas.
These were like, this was, you know, how we spent free time.
We would hike and explore the countryside.
And there was one time, one time.
When there was a tree, it was a young beach tree.
It was a sapling, but it was big.
It was like maybe three and a half, probably four to five inches wide.
Something had taken that tree and bent it with such force that the bark split vertically up.
And the tree was down across the road.
It was almost like, folks, stay away from here, just don't come down here.
for a while, okay?
It was a healthy tree, the wood
was green, and I don't
even know, I mean, I don't
even know how you could do that. If you had a
back-o, you might end up pulling
the roots up before you'd break a tree like that.
The force it would take
to break a young
healthy beech tree,
to just bend it to the point where it actually
splits vertically,
you know, up and down
part of its trunk in order to bend.
I mean, I can't
explain that. I can't say that the
Sasquatch did it, you know, but it did seem
to be symbolic.
And that's all I can tell you.
I don't know.
I mean, it's...
From what I remember from the book,
so I believe the gentleman you were talking about that also
had the white Sasquatch sighting in the Coabin. His name
was Matt, and I think you had, you had met
him through Jonathan Wilk with the BFRO and Squatchez-A-Chucitz, yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Which, I mean, that group, Squatchez-A-Chucid group does great work.
Love those guys, and if they're listening, would love to talk to anyone from that group.
Now, something I've heard in, you know, I've taken lots of reports, a few reports from Massachusetts.
It's over the years.
have you ever heard of any Bigfoot sightings in this area, the Coabin, where it resembles more of an orangutan look at all?
No, I don't, not to the extent, no, I don't think I've heard of, I have heard of people, people, and some of this goes back historically quite a long time too, but I have heard of people, the idea of a white,
white one was not expected that that would seem to be rare,
although millions of creatures will sometimes be white
and sometimes be other colors.
So that's not, you know, that odd a thing.
But I've heard of other dark brown-colored ones
that other people claim to have seen, you know,
and I do mention in the book, too,
that there is a long history of this in New England.
way going all the way back into a native, native lure.
So it's not, whatever the phenomenon is, it's not just the West Coast.
Oh, absolutely.
There's a lot that goes on in the northeast.
The orangutan type one I'd heard from an individual was actually a southern Coabin area around Route 9,
kind of by the Herman Covey WMA, was crossing.
the road there.
Now, do you have any thoughts at all?
Do you think there might be a possibility that Sasquatch has a connection to music or
musical patterns or anything like that?
Well, the only thing that I can tell you in regard to that is I have no idea.
But, and I think I mentioned this in the book.
There was a night, I know that we were both at least that night, we were both staying in that old house there in Pelham.
And I had a musical gig at a musical festival because, you know, I've been a musician and I've done a lot of record albums over the years.
This is the last thing that's connected to the Sasquatch world, you know.
But I was a guest with a pretty well-known jam band called Max Creek.
and they were headlining this big festival
and one of their trademark songs
is sort of a trademark song on my own
called Stones and Broken Bowens.
I was up there playing that song, you know,
and with that group,
and it has a very distinctive rhythm pattern.
It's one, two, three, two, three, one, two, three,
one, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, one, two, three.
It's a distinctive meter.
and there was this tapping outside the house
about the same time I was playing this tune
with this band at a festival
supposedly there was this tapping
that was in the same rhythm
and Donna was making note of it
neither of us put it together for a while
there was this weird rhythmic tapping
outside the old house
and I was playing a song that is based
on that one riff,
rhythmically ripped, if you were to write it out.
And that's, I mean,
that's the only thing I've never even thought about,
Bigfoot or Sasquatch or
any of this stuff in relation to music.
You know,
but music is kind of universal across a lot of different
creatures, probably, I think.
And as you know, maybe there's
more and more evidence that some earlier forms of man
like even Neanderthal, a period of maybe had some kind of interest in music or even,
I think that's one of the newer ideas that's out there.
But, that's all I know about that.
I have no idea.
Yeah, it is a thing where it kind of comes up in different ways in reports.
Like sometimes people will hear what to them sounds like singing in different parts of the U.S. and Bigfoot-related areas.
And sometimes, you know, if you hear wood knocks, they're usually being a pattern of three.
And that's me speaking from experience.
It's pretty weird stuff.
So I don't know.
There might be something there for sure.
Now, you know, you've been looking into the subject for a long time.
And you kind of alluded to it a little bit.
So have you heard Bigfoot reports from other things?
people in the area that you've talked to, maybe people working out in the forests or things like that?
I haven't heard anything recently, but my life has taken me in very, very different directions, you know?
I mean, we've had so much crazy history in the years between, well, the last 10 years.
I mean, think about it between all of the crazy times and all of the other stuff going on.
you know
and the only
every once in a while
we still run into really weird stick structures
as a matter of fact
I know
we were we were hiking
in an area
well you maybe
remember you know the whole Mount Holyokees
and Mount Tom and all that
Oh absolutely there's lots of stuff that happens up there
yeah
Yeah, because there have been, I haven't, this isn't new, but back when this was happening, there were reports coming from there about really weird screams and, you know, the kind of sounds that I don't think they would have come from a cougar or a mountain line.
They do occasionally show up here.
There's too much proof in that.
They don't like to admit it, but they're out there.
I know, I can't count on both hands all the people I know that have seen them.
And I've even seen pictures that people have taken, things ripped apart.
You know, and I know that our friend Matt has gifted off.
I haven't talked to him in a few years now.
The only, and a couple of things, and I'm speaking purely for myself.
This is not for her or for anybody else.
But there was a period when all this was happening where I kind of felt like I was under some kind of a spell.
Now people could jump at that.
say, well, that just shows you because you were like imagining everything and your psyche was
creating all this. Well, my psyche didn't bend that birch tree over the road and it didn't
throw that stone, which I could barely lift 30 yards out into the water through the trees
from God knows how far away. So I don't know what to make of that. But I can say that when I have
gone back to some of these same places, everything seems like it's returned to normal.
at least in recent times.
That could change at a moment's notice.
I have no idea.
I had one weird experience in Connecticut years, a couple of years after that.
I was visiting my daughter, and she had to have a little small dog.
And she'd rented, it was a pretty little funky house,
but she likes the out of doors to
and it was on a nice piece of property
and one night the dog went running off into the woods
yapping and barking and coming like
going like crazy and I
and she had injured her foot
I think she had a leg in her foot in the cast
and she had broken bone
in her foot and I said
okay I'll go try to find a dog for you
and I went out there and I never found the dog
but I shined this light
and then I saw these two eyes
staring at me from the woods. This was
near Litchfield, Connecticut, where there have been some weird things, you know.
And at first I thought, oh, that's some kind of a reflectors on a side or something.
Because, I mean, this is an area that was surrounded by malls and shopping centers,
even though there was a lot of land at this one little patch of ground.
And I remember seeing these two, it looked like two eyes staring.
And I thought, well, that's just reflectors on something.
There's nothing.
because it was way high up.
It was like seven feet off the ground.
And so I put the flashlight down, and I couldn't find the dog.
And then I shined it back there, and I did that a couple of times.
And the eyes didn't move.
And then the third time, I raised the flashlight beam and shined it into the woods.
And then I saw the two eyes that looked like eyes, and they looked like they were staring at me.
And then they turned just the way too horizontally spaced.
eyes would turn so that visually the distance between the two points narrowed.
And then I heard something slowly moving through the trees that sounded like it was on two
feet.
I had no idea what that was.
Maybe it was a deer and there was a little bit of a higher ground there.
I don't know.
I didn't see any high ground when I went back the next day.
So that was one weird experience.
And then another time.
in the two years afterwards or so, my daughter and I walked back to the quab and hiked around there for a while.
We were hiking in the same area where a lot of this stuff had happened.
And my daughter is kind of like psychic.
So she thought there was something interesting.
And we climbed up this rough bank and we found this very interesting stick structure.
It just made no sense because it was not something that it wasn't that big,
it was very, it was abundant, obviously it had been made and we couldn't see any purpose for it.
I mean, why anybody would done it.
And it wasn't in a place that anybody would logically see.
And because it was an odd place that you wouldn't typically walk through or around or see it.
So that was weird.
And then she was kind of like on some vendor for exploring.
And the reservoir was lower at that time.
And we went out onto a point of land that was normally under a few feet of water.
And I have pictures of this.
This happened after the book, so there's nothing in the book about it.
But there was these footprints, and it was very muddy, so you couldn't tell.
And they were really, really deep.
I mean, they were like really deep.
and they were about the general shape of a very like a giant human footprint
but it was too muddy to see them clearly down there
but it was like one two one two
and I you know most tracks are abundant in the same
they were all over the same area they're very very different
they look like a horse or a deer you know their ungulate tracks
I have no idea what the heck that was they were bigger than they
they were bigger than even a
Sasquatch footprint could have been. I have no idea
what it was, but they really looked like
some sort of generally
human-shaped footprint, but the bottoms
were obscured because
it was, you know, slushy.
But it wasn't that slushy. I mean,
you still had to be very heavy
that would press it that far down
because there were moose tracks in the same period.
And a moose track is a much
smaller track, and a moose is a big animal.
And they were nowhere near us deep.
Not even, I don't know what that was.
I have no idea.
You know, maybe it was a Sasquatch.
Who knows?
What, how, what length would you estimate the tracks to be?
They were like over 20 inches.
Wow, that's like Pacific Northwest size, dude.
22, 23 inches.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And they were like four feet up.
stride.
Okay.
Something like that.
But were they in a straight line?
Yeah, no, they were basically in a straight line.
They came up.
They came up.
There was a channel.
There was woods on one side.
We're hunting and fishing and everything.
You're not supposed to go there.
There's a big area of the quabin, which is off limits.
I think they give like 20 deer permits a year or something.
You can buy if you want to.
But it's off limits to hunting and fishing and everything.
You're not, you're just supposed to.
to stay away from there. And there was a stream, a feeder stream that came into the reservoir
at this area. And there was a channel coming out of that feeder stream. And the tracks
emerged out of that channel coming from the direction of the Prescott Peninsula.
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Then they proceeded out the length of the peninsula, and then they just like walked off into the water.
It was a very weird thing.
So you're saying you're really, like that's really not public access?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, no, that area is not.
It's not public access.
most of it's off limits you're not supposed to go there without a special permit or you know and i know
that there are certain i think that a certain number of hunting licenses are giving out for that area
at least they were because they were concerned about their getting too many deer sure but i don't
think anything else um yeah i think that's the extent of it there's only certain parts of the
quadmen where you're allowed to fish okay
Yeah, I mean, they're strict about it.
And they even patrol it with boats.
Like if you're doing stuff you're not supposed to be doing, they'll bust you.
They don't want you in every area.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would say listeners, you definitely want to do your due diligence to always look at areas
and see what the limitations are that you can legally go to before you just go to an area.
so doing due diligence is make sure you look look it up yourself with your your local law enforcement
but wow oh and there's one last question and thank you so much for your for your time
today john but and this has already been asked but i'm kind of also asking it for the listeners as
well um if there is anyone that has ever heard anything bigfoot related or experienced anything
Bigfoot related in the Franklin County area.
I would love to talk to you about it.
And I would love if you could reach out to me,
Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.
One day I will have an episode that I'll be able to say yes
that happened in Franklin County.
It's this kind of a thing I'm working towards.
So it sounds like you haven't really heard anything
from that area yourself though, correct?
You know, I am trying to remember
because you're jogging my memory now because as I've said my life has moved on into so many other different subjects
and I've got other book projects that I've been involved with and for a while you know
during most of the time between when this happened and now I was a writer in residence out of an historic house in Amherst
which has basically been devoted to poets and writers of poetry.
And I did do a book of poetry, and I have been a songwriter.
And that was, you know, that kind of work was my own younger days in my study English literature.
That's what I studied.
I was fascinated with anthropology.
I studied at Harvard, but I wasn't one of the guys that measured in that stuff or anything like that.
so um but something is i i seem to remember something about northfield your own hometown
which is a very wild place it is i'm trying yeah i mean that's wild rugged strange country
and a lot of it's swampy and boggy um so i do know your area up there and um maybe i'll email
you if that comes back in there.
Such an interesting conversation.
You know, John, John Koster, thank you so much for coming on the show.
I really hope that people, you know, take a look at your book, convergence encounters
with an impossible being.
It really is a fascinating read.
I highly enjoyed it.
You can get it as an e-book or you can get it as a physical copy on Amazon.
I really recommend people pick up a copy.
It is a cool read about an area where there's not a lot of Bigfoot-related things written.
So definitely recommend to pick it up.
But thank you so much, John.
Is there a way for people to check out your music?
I'm not hard to find online.
I mean, my music is at John Costor, which is just J-O-H-N-C-C-O-S-T-E-R, John-Coster Music.com.
And there are albums.
There are links to albums, and you can buy albums there, and you can,
some cases you can go to places where you can download them and stuff like that.
And also, I think there are links to this book and to the poetry book.
And that's what my life has been about.
It's been about writing and doing music.
And so this was not something I ever expected to be.
I never expected to, as a matter of fact, I was really beginning to do a whole other historical book based
on a box of letters of
Revolutionary War letters.
I still haven't gotten it done
because so many things keep coming
between me and it, it seems.
But I love the out-of-doors,
and New England is actually
an unusual place
because people don't think about
New England oftentimes as big,
and a lot of it's really overbuilt,
lower parts of it and everything,
but a lot of the
ecology in New England
is,
is pretty robust.
I live now,
actually where I'm living now is out
in a place called Schuetsbury, which is once again,
I'm probably only three or four miles as the crow flies
from where all this stuff happened years ago.
And it's a beautiful countryside.
It was heavily, heavily logged over and cut down
and sheep farms were everywhere,
back 150, even 200 years ago.
And a lot of the facts,
forest has come back in New England, and New England has a lot of wildlife, and there are a lot of
pockets that are pretty ecologically rich. More so now, I mean, bears are just all over the
place. And, you know, when I was a kid, I always thought, wouldn't, wouldn't it be cool
to see a bear? Now you see them all the time. I mean, not all the time. Actually, but they're
really common. And they're thriving. So, you know, people,
we'll tell you that if bears can thrive, supposedly a Sasquatch can thrive.
I don't know.
I can't, I don't know how that all works.
And I have, there's a guy that is a very close friend of mine, and he had enormous footprints
show up in his backyard, what is it, two and a half years ago in December.
I mean, they were just ridiculous.
You can see the toes and everything.
It happened like about, it was a day when there had been a very light snowfall,
it was kind of slushy, and the dogs went crazy at about 3 o'clock in the morning.
He was out pretty far out in the country.
And that's over near Granville, which is heading west into the Berkshires.
I mean, once again, he is on the edge of a very big national forest.
And there are other stories and reports from that area as well.
And I've encountered a couple of those.
I haven't encountered anything particularly new around here.
So whatever this phenomenon is, it does appear to be in New England.
And yeah, those footprints were just amazing.
Yeah.
I do have pictures.
I'm not surprised.
That Granville area is extremely active right now.
I've talked to a few people about that area.
It is pretty wild.
Cobble Mountain, specifically, that area is.
of Granville.
Well, that is so interesting
because this all, you know, he called
me up and said, you've got to see these footprints
that showed up in my backyard
the other day. And the footprints came from
they walked all the way down
this long field across
this area where he's got equipment stored
like he does a lot of work
and stuff like that.
And these are
big footprints. I think they're
like 18 inches or something like that.
And they're a bare footprint.
and you can see the friggin' toes.
Now, you tell me what's going on.
Does he have a gigantic, crazy neighbor
who wanders around in people's backyards
in the middle of the night, scaring the dogs?
I don't think so.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
In Granville, if you did that,
you'd be likely to get shot.
You know, it's like,
it's a rural community.
It's not like the university
town of Amherst, you know.
Yeah, a little bit different.
It is so active down there.
They actually call it the Cobble Mountain Critter,
and they have a festival for it that started this year, too, which is pretty well.
This is so interesting.
See, this is something I never even knew about.
Wow.
So keep that in mind for maybe next year.
But, John, thank you for taking some time today chatting about your experiences over the years.
And it's been a pleasure to have you on the show.
And listeners, make sure you go check out his book.
will be linked in the show notes, and you can check that out and read the rest of the story
for yourself.
But thank you again for coming on, John.
My pleasure.
Thanks a lot.
And I'll be looking to see what other new exciting news are turning up because it is a fascinating
subject.
And I think it has significance for the crazy time that we're living in.
Whatever is happening to the Bigfoot or the Sasquatch or whatever these things are,
They're not worried about, you know, being monitored too closely by the government and they don't pay taxes or have a social credit score they're trying to maintain.
Exactly.
So they learn something that it's probably we'd all be better off if we understood.
So anyhow, on that relatively numerous note, thanks a lot.
And it's been nice talking to you.
I'll love you following what you're up to.
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