Bigfoot Society - The Woods War | Massachusetts

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

What happens when two friends head out for a peaceful night of fishing — and end up being bombarded by rocks from something they can’t see... again and again? In this gripping and brutal episode, we sit down with Jordan, an Army veteran from the southeastern corner of Massachusetts, who shares a series of increasingly violent encounters with something in the woods of Plymouth. From eerie silence to mimicked rooster calls and glowing red eyes in the night, Jordan and his friend are hunted, tracked, and taunted across multiple ponds — even chased down dark roads and followed home. Locations include Halfway Pond, Myles Standish State Forest, and remote areas surrounding Plymouth. This is more than just a Bigfoot sighting — it’s a multi-night, escalating war in the woods. Prepare for impact.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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Today's episode is a conversation with Jordan from the southeast corner of Massachusetts. This is an extremely interesting conversation that as goes along becomes quite evident someone does not want it to happen. So please enjoy this conversation about what exactly is going on in the Plymouth area of Massachusetts. And thanks for listening. All right, Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Jordan today. Jordan's an individual from the Plymouth Mass area or Massachusetts.

It's also an Army veteran as well. Jordan, welcome to the show. Thank you for your service. And how are you doing today, sir? Oh, no problem. And I'm doing great. I've got out of work early. I plan for this. And I can't wait to talk to you for a bit. It's very, very rare to have individuals from Massachusetts, New England on the show. I grew up in Western Mass. So I know it is a very tight-lipped state when it comes to things like this. But, you know, Jordan, I want to make sure that you have the time to share what you've come prepared to share. share today. So feel free to take the floor is yours and you're welcome to take us back to when

things started happening to you. I had a trucking company a few years ago, over five years ago. And one of the forklift operators I started hanging out with, he's older than me. He's like 55 now. And we had a big, what do you call it, hobby together of fishing. So we started talking about it and stuff and he had a little, you know, a bass buggy boat, something that just slides into the back of a pickup truck with the swivel seats. And we hadn't talked for a while. We hadn't hung out and stuff and eventually just started fishing.

And it wasn't until after I started my other job. So he goes, hey, have you ever fished down in Plymouth area? I said, no, not really. I said, you know, usually go to other ponds and stuff. you know, walking distance stuff. I usually fish from shore. There he goes, well, you can go with me.

I said, all right. So we go out to the pond, and I don't know if I should mention where the pond is or not, but I'd never been there. It was in Plymouth. It was a really long dirt road to get down there. And if you go down the dirt road,

comes to a fork. If you go left, there's, you know, maybe 10 houses on that side of the lake. The right side of the lake, there's only two mansions down the very, very, very end, like another mile down.

So it's very secluded. So he goes, okay, well, we'll go there and I'll pick you up at three in the morning and we'll get down there, you know, we'll get set up and we should be fishing, you know, by four o'clock. And this was in August of 23. So, you know, he told me there's a lot of small mouth in there and, you know, there's big,

fish and should be great time, clean water, blah, blah, blah. So he picks me up in his Toyota truck. He's got the boat in there. And we go down the dirt road. And it's a one-lane road around. You got to offload the boat. And then you've got to go park it. And there's a couple little tiny parking spots cut out in the woods.

So it's dark. It's pitch black. I got a headlamp on. He parks the truck, get the boat out. We pull it on the ground. and he's like, I've got to go park the truck. I said, all right. So he pulls away.

I watch him drive, and he's probably 100 feet away from me, and I can see the truck, and he pulls it in one of the spots. And I'm just standing there, listening to the bugs, crickets, frogs, and I'm just looking in the water. The water's perfect. That's crystal clear. And a rock flew by my face. Like, probably the size of a golf ball.

I'm like, that was weird. You know, I don't know what to think. So he's walking back towards me, and he's got his hands in his park. He parks the truck. I see the brake lights go off. I see everything go off. He's coming towards me. He's got his headlamp on.

And he's got his hands in his pockets. And I said, did you throw a rock? Like, I don't know why. Like, I shouldn't ask him that because how could he? But I'm like, did you throw a rock? He's like, what are you talking about? I said, you, you threw a rock at me or something. He goes, dude, whatever.

No. And another one flew right in front of my face. I am shining my light around, and to my left is the pond, and to my right is just straight blueberry bushes, briers, just swamp. Like, with tree, you can't see through it. So he's like, dude, what was that? I said, he saw the second one. I said, I don't know, dude. He's like, well, let's get out of here.

So we get in the boat. And as we're going out, you know, he's only got a little trolle motor on electric motor. The rocks are coming, nonstop. And as we're moving, they're falling all around the bow of the boat. They never touched the boat. And the boat is a square boat. It's like a Pelican gator or something like that. And all these rocks are just going around the front of the boat as they're moving.

I'm getting wet. These rocks are hitting the water. I'm getting wet. We finally get out far enough, and it stops. And I'm like, what was that? I don't know. So then this weird rooster sound started. It sounded like somebody in a deep voice mimicking a rooster,

and it didn't sound right at all. And I had a 5,000-lumin flashlight in my tackle bag. So I pull it out and I'm shining it on the shore And there's nothing there at all nothing And as we're fishing and it's getting daylight out There's no more rocks the rest of that day But the rooster call sound sounded like it would be 100 feet from shore And then a mile away

And then 100 feet from shore and a mile away And it did it all the way until the sun started breaking through, really. And we fished the rest of the day, and it got really hot. And we didn't actually, I don't even remember catching anything. And we get back to the truck, and we load the boat, and I'm like, what was up with those rocks? He's like, I don't know, dude, it's probably just some hobo,

some, you know, somebody around here, maybe it's one of the people that live in the house. They don't want us around here. And we let it go. So a week or two goes by. And this is still August of 23. We, uh, he calls me up. He goes, you know, you want to go down there? I said, yeah, yeah, I'll go down there.

And, you know, I'm not worried about the, it's not my truck going down there. I'm like, if you get rocks hit in your truck, I don't care, you know. So you go back down there. And there was a big storm coming. And we shouldn't have went, but we did anyway. And we go out there, and we got there. This time it was in the afternoon. So we got there probably around four or five in the afternoon.

And we go out, we fish, catch a couple fish, nothing great, whatever. The sky goes black, like black, black. Like the lightning, the rain, we're trying to get back across the pond. And the boat's actually, like, the boat actually had like two inches of water in it by the time we got back in. I mean, we shouldn't have, but that was stupid. So we get in, now we're rushing. We're rushing to get the boat in the truck, strap it down, and as we're doing it, rocks are flying in again. And it always waits.

You've got like five minutes, 10 minutes of, you know, before they start doing whatever this is. It has to be them. So rock's that coming in. It's torrential downpour. It's 9 o'clock at night. It's pitch black, and somebody's throwing rocks at us again. and they never hit us, not once. These rocks never touch your body.

But they're big enough, some of them, where if they hit you, some of them are the size of potatoes. They knock your head right off. So that was the second time. And still, we left, and, you know, we're talking about it on the way home. And we're like, dude, it's got to be a hobo. It's got to be like some homeless guy that's got a tent back there and he doesn't want us there and he's annoyed. And, you know, that's it.

That's all we could come up with. So I wasn't scared. I didn't have a feeling. I didn't have a reason to be nervous. I didn't have a, you know, nothing like that. So maybe, again, more than two weeks later, we go back. And now it's again, four or five in the afternoon. So we get down there.

And that year, every time we went, these three times, there was nobody ever down there, except for this one guy. So this old timer shows up. And he's like, oh, you boys are going to go fishing? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I've been fishing this pond, 30 years. And this guy's like giving us, you know, Sankos and certain colors, which is a rubber worm. He's giving us different stuff. And he's like, yeah, go over here in that corner.

That's where these type of fish hang out and go over there and that and he's long-winded. He kept going, and Dan's getting impatient. He's like, hey, we've got to go. I said, all right. I said, well, nice talk to you, sir. He's like, oh, no problem. And something just gave me the inkling to ask him if he's ever seen or heard anything weird. So I said, hey, can I see something?

You guys are like, yeah. I said, do you ever hear or see anything out here when you're fishing? He was like, no, not that I can think of. I said, all right. And he goes, oh, well, yeah. There's a weird rooster noise sometimes when I'm down here early in the morning. Okay. Noted.

So he's like, all right, good luck. Have fun. Yep, okay. We get out there. We're fishing. It's a beautiful night. No clouds or nothing. We stayed until 10 this time.

And Dan knows that I watch these podcasts. I watch you. I watch Wes. That's actually it. I used to watch some other ones, but I don't agree with the way it's. what they're doing anymore, so I stopped it. But he makes fun of me. So he's like, what do those Bigfoot do again?

I said, what do you mean? He's like, what are they whoop or something? I'm like, yeah. So we're just about to come in, and he's making these whoops sounds, and he's laughing. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever. And it's actually embarrassing because he's doing it loud, and I know people can hear. And I'm like, dude, just knock it off. Oh, yeah, okay.

So get back to the truck. And it's still a little bit daylight, but barely. I mean, I think the sun goes down at the time, you know, like 8, 8.30. So it's still a little light. And we're putting the truck away. I'm in the boat away. And I'm waiting for it. I'm just waiting for it.

I'm like, it's got to be third time as charm. Something's going to happen. And Dan is cheap, and he has these old ratchet straps that are all jammed up and rusty. and even though he has a brand new Toyota truck, apparently can't buy new ratchet straps. So he's screwing around with these ratchet straps trying to get the boat down. And I'm just panning around with the flashlight. And a rock flies out of the woods and lands by my feet. It hits a bush, lands him by my feet.

And I told him, I said, Dan, it's doing it again. He goes, no, it's not. Shut up. You're not scaring me. This is dumb. I said, no, it's doing it again. and it just started doing it a lot. Like, there's a lot of rocks coming.

I mean, it threw at least 20-something rocks. He's getting pissed. And he's like, dude, it's just a hobo. You need to calm down. I'm freaking out. I'm like, dude, I'm done. I don't want to be here. I don't like this.

This is a staten to kind of kick in that this is not just a person, but I still can't fully accept it. So he's like, you know what, I'll teach you to a freaking lesson, whatever it is, and he grabs a pile of rocks. and he starts whipping him into the woods where these rocks are coming out. Every time he threw a rock, one would be passing it coming out.

Like it knew he was throwing, it was matching him perfectly. It was like his rock was, it's not actually happening like that, but it was like his rock was bouncing off an invisible force field. That's how perfect it was. It was just, he'd throw in a fump,

it was already passing. And he's like, what was that? I said, dude, I told you, I'm like, I'm done. A huge rock, bigger than a potato, comes out of the woods and lands dead nut center in the middle of the boat. And the weird thing is it didn't roll around. It didn't move. It was weird.

It just hit the boat, and that was it. It just stuck in the middle of the boat like it was a magnet or something. And he's like, dude, I'm done. I said, dude, I don't, I'm done. I jumped in the truck first, and I locked the door and a rock, you know, like the size of a marble, hit the root. roof and rolled down, and I'm watching it, and it's set right on the wiper. So he gets in, and he's like, I'm not finished on ratching the boat. I said, dude, just screw it.

The boat's mostly in there. Just get out of here. We'll go up the road a mile or two, and we'll get out, and we'll check to make sure we have anything before we leave. So he's flying up the road. We're doing like 30, and this is like a narrow dirt road. Like, you're doing, it's pretty fast. We go up about a mile, mile and a half, and we get out.

and he's a grab the flashlight, all right? So we're checking everything. The second I opened my door, a rock beamed right off the tree behind me. And we just drove more than a mile, doing 30. I'm like, do you still think it's a person now? I don't know well it is. I said, well, hell did this person catch up to us

if we just drove a mile at 30 miles an hour, and they're already throwing rocks at us again? He's like, whatever, dude, you keep imagining crap. Keep watching your stupid dude. big foot crap or whatever you watch. Yeah, I'm done with this. I love them. So that was the last time of August 2023.

So whole year goes by. Now and last year. He goes, hey, you want to go to halfway pond? I just gave it away. But, all right, there it is, halfway point. So I go, you know what? Yeah, I'll go. Screw it.

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different area than we usually park. And we get the boat in and we're just fishing. 10 o'clock comes. It's pitch black. Coming in. And this time the truck was right near the water. You didn't have to go get the truck. Truck was right there. He backs the truck. And this is a brand new, oh, it's not brand new anymore. It was a leftover. It was a 2023 Tacoma. So he, he, backs the truck down, and I'm waiting again. I'm like, it was a whole year ago. I'm like, you know, I'm going to, you know, I got my flashlight tanning around out of the woods again.

And mind you, this is the first time I noticed that everything is dead perfectly quiet. There's not a sound. The only sound was a whippoorwill. That was it. And when I look back on all the other times, there wasn't, I remember, I'm like, there was no sound. There's no crickets. There's no frogs.

There's no... anything. So a rock comes in. And he's like, what? So I tell him, and he goes, well, what, I heard something. I said, yeah, it's rocks. And a rock beams right off the roof of a truck, brand new truck. And it's kind of made like a sound like if you stepped on like an empty beer can or something.

And he was like, dude, did that just hit my truck? I said, yeah, right on your roof. Now he's mad. And I just want to go. and as I'm holding my flashlight it gets so hot in my hand that I can't physically hold it anymore and it goes out

and this is a brand new I mean that's not the same flashlight I had before this is a better newer one and it gets hot in my hand I can't hold it I turn it off I'm done I get in the truck

he's done with the boat he gets in I'm like dude just go go because these rocks bigger than the last time. He's a dude, calm down, calm down, and I'm like, no, no,

go. And it's hot out. So he's sitting there, and he's playing with the AC, and he's turning the radio on, whatever station he wants. I'm like, dude, you got to go. Just go. Do you want dent? I'm screaming at him, actually, at this point. I mean, do you like dents in your brand new truck, because this is what's going to happen?

Oh, stop it. You being a baby. It ain't nothing. I said, okay, whatever, dude, and I'm, I'm antsy. I just want to leave. He's like, okay, calm down, calm down. He puts his foot on the brake, and he puts it in drive. And when he looks, he looks over in the driver's mirror and just starts to lose in his mind. Losing his mind.

And I'm like, he's screaming, don't look back. Whatever you do, don't look back. I don't have a flashlight anymore. It's done. And all I had was a little pocket, you know, little cheap LED flashlight. like, I'm climbing, he's stuffing it. I'm climbing in the back seat and I open the slider and I'm trying to shine. I can't see anything.

He's just flying. And I'm like, I keep, I get back in my seat and like, what did you see? What did you see? Nothing. I mean, he's flying. I'm like, what did you see? He's like, dude, I don't know. I don't know what it was. We get all the way to the main road and he stops.

And we're just sitting now where there's a, I think there was a street light there and stuff. And you're back and, you know, on a main road. this car is going by. I said, what did you see? He goes, dude, all I know was big. His eyes reflect in red, and I just seen it walk right behind the truck. And I said, okay, so that's what it was. He goes, no, I'm never going to admit that.

That's not what it was. You don't know what that was. I said, dude, what was it then? I don't know, but I don't want to talk about it anymore. I said, okay. You don't want to talk? Nope, I don't want to talk about it. And this is a guy, I don't go hunting, I fish.

He goes up in tree stands at 4 in the morning. He's up there, 4 daylight, climbs up there, never had a problem, doesn't want to deal with this stuff. He doesn't want to think about it, doesn't want to care about it. It's just fairy nonsense, even though he saw the thing, and I didn't. So that was last year. So that was the last time I went to halfway pond, and that will be the last time I will go there. So a week of two goes by.

Calls me up. You want to go fishing? I said, yeah. Yep. You want to go to halfway? No. Why? He goes, yeah, that is kind of weird.

I don't want any more dent. I said, okay, well, screw that. Let's go somewhere else. He said, well, let's fish in one of the ponds and miles standard. I said, okay. It's like, I think it's like as the crow flies maybe six, seven miles maybe away, five miles away from where we were. And I'm like, well, at this point, I still discredit, I'm still trying to grasp reality

of whatever this is. So I'm like, okay, maybe there's still just kids. And then you add up how of an insane aim this thing has and the quietness and you shine the light, there's nothing there. And then what he saw. And in my mind, I'm like, as long as I'm not going back to that place, I don't care. So I'll go try another part. So we go to one of the ponds in Mount Standish State Park, and there's nobody around.

And we get the boat, put it in. He had to move the truck. You know, he had to park another 100 feet away. There's nothing, you know, there's no direct access. So we go out and we're fishing. And it's a perfect night. And there's nothing wrong. And we're out there at about 10 o'clock at night.

And we're coming back in. And we got to drag the boat up this, you know, a gravel, like drainage ditch thing. And actually the rocks are pretty big. So you're fumbling all over the place. We climb up the thing. He has to go get the truck, pack it on the wrong side of the road, facing the wrong way to get it to where we can just get the boat in. And there's nobody out there.

It's 10 o'clock at night. So, you know, I got this new flashlight that I had, and I'm shining around. The one that didn't work before that got hot. and there's no really like low, low underbrush. Everything's kind of just scrub pines. So you can see pretty good. I'm just, you know, just because I'm like, I'm just going to look around and see.

And he's already helped him put the boat in. And he's strapping it down again. And a rock comes skidding down the road. And you can hear it's going tink-tink-tink-tink-tink-tink. And it's, you know, half the size of a baseball. And I'm like, dude, it's doing it again. And he starts laughing. No, it's not.

You're screwing. I said, nope, here it is again. And then a rock comes skipping up the road from the other way. And then they just started going like crazy. And they're all going right over the truck, right over our heads, not touching us. And I'm getting aggravated now because now this is the fifth time. And I just said out loud, I don't know who you are or what you are, but can you please stop?

We're just fishing. We're leaving. We don't want any trouble. Please stop. And everything stopped. And I looked at him and I'm like, what do you think this is? He's like, I don't know. So I waited about 30 seconds.

And he had a 45 on him. I said, if this is kids, maybe he'll scare him if I say this out loud. So I said, hey, Dan, he's a yeah. still screwing with the boat. I said, Good thing he got your gun on you, right? And he went, yep. The second he said,

yup, a rock the size of a baseball pile drive this no parking sign that was literally, you know, maybe two feet over to his right and maybe about three or four feet back. It sounded like a gunshot. So he's like he's, I'm done. I'm out. I'm out. So he just finished. We get in the truck and we're flying out of there. And I said, you know what, dude? I'm sick of this. I said, turn around.

He was what? I said, turn around. Jordan, are you there? Oh, my goodness. I'm going to call that. I'm going to call Jordan back right now. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. 7-7-4-4-1. All right. This is a second call today where we have gotten We've gotten disconnected. I hope I can call this guy back.

Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. 7.7.4 is not available at this time. At the tone, please record your message. When you have finished recording, you may hang up or press one for more options. Hey, Joran, this is Jeremiah calling you back. We got disconnected or somehow. It's just like the phone went click on your side. I'm going to try the other number.

Please leave your message for... Well, I just tried both of Jordan's phone numbers. It is very evident that someone does not want these calls to happen. Wow. Okay, I'm just going to have to see if he calls back. All right. We're going to give us some time. Yeah.

This is really weird, guys. It's very, very weird. When I finished the story, I said basically like queuing you. to be like, oh, wow, Jordan Mo. And I'm like, waiting. And I looked down on the phone and it was still going. It was like, the call never ended. Okay.

I've got the recording going on. I'm bringing up the map of Plymouth again. So we were at, let's see, you were at the other pond in Miles Standish, and then there had been like, a rock your buddy you were like hey you have your gun right

and then and he was like yep and then this huge rock hit the sign and then yeah yeah yeah yeah oh so you didn't hear anything about the cloud

with the tail on it with the smoke or anything no no no okay oh man this is weird is this one of those things are they listening and then they cut the phone call

I don't know dude but it happens a lot to me I'm not even kidding. Well, this is what I, that's the thing that fascinates me more about Sasquatch than Sasquatch is why are they trying to hide it and what else do they have to hide? That's what, that's what confuses me. That's the intrigue. And just like, what's his name there from How to Hunt?

He says, if you, if they admitted these things are real, then they'd have to admit all the other crap that they pretend it ain't real is real. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, yeah. That's what makes me mad. It actually aggravates me because it's like. Same. Why you hide, like, what do you got to hide, dude?

Yeah. Anyway, so hopefully I don't cut the cell phone. Okay. I will keep checking. If you don't mind, every five minutes, I'm going to ask if you're still there. Yeah, that's good. That's good for me. Yep.

Okay. So they threw a rock at the sign. And, I mean, it sounded like a gunshot. And it was right when I said, do you have your gun, man? So whatever it is knows what English is somehow Or they can read your mind, I don't know So we leave and I say no, turn around I want to see this thing walk out, I've had it

So he goes, are you sure? I say, yeah, turn around So we turn around We go back down miles damage Down that road And nothing happened So he's like, dude, I got to get out and pee, dude, you got to cover me. So I get out and I'm shining this flashlight.

Nothing happens. To get back on the truck and now we're just, we're now we're heading back towards my house. We're heading the right way. And a rock beams off the truck. So he's pissed. It's a brand new truck. I think you paid like 45 grand for this thing. He goes, give me the flashlight.

He gets out and stands on the door still. The door still. He shines the light. He climbs up and he's shining the light over the truck and a rock lands directly in the boat in the back of the truck. You still there? Yes. Okay. So he freaks out.

He's like, dude, we got to get out of you. I'm done. I don't want any. This thing already actually dent. One of the rock that last time we were at the other pond, the rock skimmed the roof of the truck. That's what that sound was. And it actually left, it took pain off. And if I go, like I looked at it the other day when he came over.

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So we meet a church parking lot that's got a fire road going on it off the back of it. And it's right down the street. So we walk in, we're doing great. And a lot of big fish. We caught, you know, five, six pounds. It was really nice. Right in the fall. They were all fattening up, four-wainter.

They were hitting everything. And now it's, you know, we got there at maybe five. And by the time we walked out there, now it's about 7.30 and it's down to get dark. And he goes, I think it's time to go. I said, all right. So let's make a couple more casts. Okay with that?

And now there's a big rock where we're at. And the shoreline where we're fishing, it was such a dry summer that the shoreline you know, normally you'd be in two or three feet of water. You're walking on it. And there's a rock the size of like two or three pickup trucks right on this peninsula, right on this point. So we climb up on the rock and we're fishing.

A rock. The rock's just that coming in. And I freaked out so bad that I just got down on my knees and started praying the Lord's Prayer. I don't know what's happening. I don't know. I just want it to go away. And now we're in the moment. mill a no like we're a mile in the woods he doesn't have his gun on him there there's nothing we can

do and the rocks just keep coming so i get down and i start praying in the name of jesus leave us alone as corny as that does sounds to some people that's what i believe and it stopped and i look at him and go what are we going to do he's like dude crabby you you know what and look you know got to be a man got to walk out of here i'm like okay like what are we going to do what are you going to So we start walking, and you got to walk about 100 feet to get back into the woods because there's cliffs. You know, you got 12, 14, 15 foot cliffs up. That's where all this stuff is coming down at us. As we're walking back to the path, a log, you know, about eight inches in diameter and maybe six, seven feet long,

comes flying down off the top of the hill and just lands right on the beach, the rocks. right in front of us. I shine the light back up there. There's nothing there. Nothing. I am like done. I am hysterical. We start running out of there. And there's rocks bouncing off of the trees. There's branches breaking. We're getting pushed out. I get to the point where I can't run anymore. I got a big tackle bag. I got my rods. He's older than me. He's dying. We pull, we just stop. And I shine the flashlight back and there's nothing there. and there's no sounds. There's no crickets, there's no bugs, there's no nothing.

You still there? Yes. Okay. So, sorry, I don't mean to keep asking that, but I don't trust this phone. Oh, I know. It sucks. So we finally get out of there. The second we get to that church parking lot, everything stopped.

It just stopped. And I was so pissed. I was taunting. I was like, hey, I'm going to be in my truck. because we took two separate vehicles. So my truck's there now. And my trucks are closest to the woods. And I'm like, come on, throw another rock.

Come on, let's do it. Go ahead. No, nothing. They just stopped. So I'm rubbed up. He's rubbed up. He said, dude, I'm done. I'm going home.

That was enough for me. I said, yep, that's enough for me too, dude. So I go home and I crack a couple of beers and just try to forget it. A couple weeks later, you want to go out again? I said, yes, I will go. I'm not staying until daylight, night time. I will leave with plenty of sun left in the sky. I am not doing this again.

So we go. I can't relax. So we walk out there. I don't even want to fish. I'm too antsy. It's too much. So, like, six o'clock comes, and you could tell the sun's going to set.

So I said, dude, I'm out, let's go. Oh, come on. Don't be a you know what. Let's go. Come on. Nope, nope, no, no, no. I'm done. He goes, all right. So we're starting walking out. It's daylight. I can see. I can see everything. And a rock the size of a basketball comes flying out of the woods. I can hear it hitting the branches above me. And it lands in the water. And it just makes the biggest compoos. And he's like, oh, wow, do you hear that fish? I said, how did you not hear? That's not a fish. He's like, yeah. Well, I said, no, it's not. And we're arguing.

I'm like, how, and I'm yelling at him. I'm like, how dumb are you? That's not a fish, dude. I've had enough of this stuff. He goes, no, no, no, we got to get down there. You're just being paranoid. You're being paranoid. I said, I'm not being paranoid.

And then a rock, we start walking again. A rock, the side of a bowling ball, maybe like one of those little kid bowling balls, you know, the bumper bowling balls, comes flying out of the woods, lands on the path, but directly between us, where we just walked, in between us, where I just walked, and bounces and goes into the lake.

And somehow he doesn't hear this at all. So I turned around and said, what the F? It goes, what? I said, did you just trip? He goes, no. I said, what was that thump? Because I saw it. And I'm like trying to rationalize it.

So I already know what it was, but I'm like, what is going on? Like, why? How did you not hear it? Did I just see what I saw? And he's like, dude, you're freaking out. You need to calm down. I'm like, I'm not. Do you think I'm hallucinating, dude?

Like, I'm not. I don't understand why you just I'm like dude no just go he's like dude dude you got to calm down like nope and I start walking I'm I'm fine I'm bowing out of it I'm done and he's behind me he's a dude wait up I'm like nope and the whole time the rest of the time walking out they weren't doing what they were doing at night the last time they were pelt and everything ripping branches off there's rocks the size of baseball's taking branches off and they this was weird they're dropping marble to golf ball size rocks from the sky. They're not getting whipped at you or past you. They're falling directly from above you, right in front of your face. And I just go, dude, what was that? I said, dude, you know, it's acorns. I'm like, dude, you think I'm that dumb?

I don't, I watch the rock hit the ground and roll. No, no, no, no, no, it's just acorns, dude. It's the fall. I said, no, no, no, no, no. We get back. So, dude, I'm never going in there again. and I've been in these woods my whole life by myself until midnight. And the only thing I can think of is back when I was in high school, I'm 34.

Me and my buddy, my other friend, Dan, just passed away. We rode our bikes out there to fish one time in a spot near there. And I got ahead of them and stopped to wait for him. And I was probably 14, 15. And a rock hit my bike tire and fell on the ground. That was it. And I turned around and said, hey, did you throw a rock at me? was no and his chain fell off. He was busy fixing his chain. And I never thought anything of it.

That was it. So now I've had three times in Plymouth, the 23, and then one more at that halfway, and then another one incident at the particular pond in Miles Standish. Now it's doing it down the street from my house. I'm miles from Miles Standish. So how is this happen? I don't understand how do these things know where I'm at, what I'm doing, why are they bothering us, why are they forcing us out? So I was talking, I shouldn't have done this because I get made fun of it to this day, but I brought it up to a guy at work.

And he goes, oh, my buddy does a show and he has a podcast and da-da-da-da-da-da. Why don't you message him? He lives around here. And I won't mention who it is for his own privacy. but at that point in time, I just wanted some type of answer. Sure.

And I don't believe in the regular conventional way that a lot of the... I'm not saying that anybody's wrong. Anybody can do this the way they want to do it. But you're going out in the woods and banging on trees and making hooting and hollering and stuff, you might get a reaction. But usually these things just find you.

From what I've found, I'm not an expert, but I'm not into that stuff at all. So he goes, you should really go and talk to him and blah, blah, blah. So I said, fine, screw it. So I message a guy, yeah, let me talk to you. Can I put you on speakerphone with my partner? I said, yeah. So we're talking.

Yep, that's what's going on. And I said, okay, well, if you want to go out with us, you're more than welcome. And they wanted to see the place in daytime where the last thing happened. So I took them And I kind of actually To be honest I felt kind of embarrassed Because this is not my type of thing It's not I really listen to stories

I just want to hear encounters That's what I want to hear I want to hear and I want to compare it to things That I've seen It's interesting I don't really go out I'm not going out there And looking for these things

It's not my thing So I take them over there And it was weird Because when we were out there Again this is a very congestive area. I mean, there's clumps of a few thousand acres here and there, but that's it. We're on the

shore of this lake that I took them to. It's right down the street. And sure not, there's a pile of muscle shells. I'm talking like 100, more than 100 shells of freshwater mussels.

And there's this big impression in the ground. So, okay, what was it? I told my friend Dan about it. And go, oh, it's probably raccoon. I said, no, I'm doing. Raccoons don't go and collect a big pile and then sit there and eat them. So whatever that was, I don't know. Other than that, that whole thing was kind of uneventful and I just, they wanted to see where things happened and that was one of the weird things. That was it. No footprints, no nothing. So a couple of weeks later, an hour in October and later October and the guy goes,

hey, you want to go out to one of our spots and I won't say where it is. And I said, you know what, screw it. I've seen Find a Bigfoot and all this. I said, okay, I'll, I'll go check it out. What do I have to lose? It's a Friday night. I don't care. So I go out with them and they're banging on trees and whipping and sitting in silence. And I'm like, to me, this is dumb. I'm like, I just, I'm already thinking about what I want to eat for dinner, what I want to watch later. And where I'm, not making fun of them. I'm just saying, like, I was just like kind of checked out. I'm like, okay, this is what I thought it would be. So we're walking out of the woods,

and there's a big field where we came in from, and it's off of a main road. So we're in the woods about 100 feet still, and we're walking out, and all of a sudden, there's all these little lights, and they are about the size of a big marble,

and they're just blinking. One here, one there, one there, one there, one there. and I'm like, what that's that? They're like, what? I'm like, what is that? And I'm like, oh, that means that they're around. I'm like, what do you mean them? What do you mean?

Like, what do you mean? Oh, well, that's what they do? I said, what do you mean? That's what they do? And all of a sudden, this orb, the size of like a baseball. Now, mind you, we're not, this is like a small clump of woods compared to other parts. Like, this is like a few hundred acres. okay this baseball size orb comes drifting through the trees and it starts to grow and it goes to about the size of an exercise ball and it's pulsating now it's going down about the size of basketball and then back to an exercise ball and when I'm looking at this thing it looks like one of those um it's got like you know when you

look at one of those deep ocean jellyfish that's got like the uh the different colors like the strobing stuff but you barely could make it out but you could see that in it and this thing is getting smaller and bigger and it's drifting back to the woods and forward to the woods towards us backwards and it's weaving around trees and there's no sound and it's just like everybody else says that sees these orbs there's no they don't it wasn't admitting light it was just it was just all self-contextextive It was weird. And I never got a feeling from this thing that it was violent. It was angry.

It was evil. I just couldn't believe what I'm looking at. I did, there's no way after all these stories and accounts that I've heard about these stupid orbs. And I still believe them, but I'm like, there's just no way that I'm ever going to see something like this. And I found it weird. Like, why am I seeing this after?

Like, why did this not happen? Like obviously that's what was throwing the rocks at me and my friend. So now I'm with the group of these researchers, okay, and this is happening. So we're watching this thing for 20 minutes, half hour, I don't know. And all of a sudden just kind of dissipates, backs up, and it's gone. And then two pairs of eyeballs show up. That are eight feet tall. White eyeballs, glowing white.

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I don't I'm I'm you're kind of stuck I mean I had my truck there I could have ran away you know it's a few hundred feet away Out in the field I could have I could have ran I just, I think you get kind of, you don't want to ruin it. You're like, well, if I die, die, I don't think I will. But I'm probably not going to get this chance again.

So I'm staying with them and we're just watching these eyes. And one of the guys hands me a, it wasn't thermal, it was a night vision, a set of binoculars or something. And he's like, look at it. Okay, and I grab it. I'm looking at the pair, one of the sets of eyeballs. and it looked like a five-gallon bucket far ahead with a five-foot shoulders standing behind a road, Dedron bush.

I didn't see any detail. I couldn't see the hair, couldn't see a face. It was just eyes with a giant outline. And I'm like, okay, all right. Well, it's like, why is, you shouldn't be seeing this. This is insane. So, I mind you, it got really cold. the sudden, it was just freezing. I mean, we went in the woods. It was 50, 60 degrees out.

I mean, it was so cold that my hands were going numb. I don't know if it was just me, my body's reaction to the, I don't know. So when we get out of the wood line, we're making our way back towards the vehicles, and these things are just keeping their distance, but they're falling us out. Once we got to the field, you just watch, they just, they never left the woods, just the two of them. And, I look up at the sky everyone's infatuated with the woods

and the sun hadn't been wasn't completely down you know how like right before you get that really rich pink sky there was no clouds this one cloud almost wasn't perfect

like it wasn't a straight line triangle but it looked like a wedge it looked like just a triangle cloud the size of a pickup truck and it was only you know, 100 feet, 150 feet above the wood line. And it's coming over us

and it's got a tail on it. A black, smoky tail. That it looked, I don't know, it almost looked like a comet tail. But it was just really fluffy

and wispy and it did come out to a point. But it was, I don't know what I'm looking. This is, it's all too weird. The whole thing is too weird. and it's got like sparkles in it. It's got the cloud itself looked just like a regular kind of cloud

other than the weird shape. But the tail on this thing looked like, it almost looked like a black, black, dirty, sooty smoke with like gold flake in it. I get everyone's attention. They're all,

I said, what does that? Everyone looks up. The second everybody looked at it, everyone saw it, it disappeared in thin air gone and when it did two more sets of eyeballs showed up now there's four of them so um again i sound like an idiot for saying this stuff because this isn't supposed to exist but um i mean i've never really quite heard i've heard some weird stuff but i've never heard anybody talking about a cloud with a tail on it um so that and then two more of these things show up so

that's the first I've ever heard to it. And I've put thousands of hours and listened to these podcasts. So that was weird. And we're going to leave. You know, they all went out at, you know, another 20 minutes. Their eyes just disappeared.

And okay, they're gone. And we're all talking about it. And now they show up on the other side of the field near the road, where we have to leave by. And it's all four of them. And you can see them move them around they're walking through. There's no sound.

You can see where their eyes are moving. I look off to the right. I was only counting three pairs of eyes, and I look off to the right, and I just saw a big, giant black mask just moving across the field. My flashlight wouldn't have reached it. And then they all went out, and we just left. We were leaving, and I had to bring one of the guys home, and when I came out

on the main road I mean the reason why I'm not mentioning any of this is just for respect for him because this is his research area and if I mention the road everybody will know where it is around here so I just for respect for him I won't do that but when we pull out on the road

there's a F350 sitting there and the lady's got all the interior lights on and she's sitting there with her elbows on the steering wheel with her hands up on her forehead just staring out the window and I turned to the gentleman

and I said, should be taught, he's like, nope, just keep going. I said, okay, so I don't know what that lady saw, but she looked extremely distraught and it was right where these things just were before they left. So I drop them off. I don't know what to make of it.

I had to go to Walmart parking lot. and sit for a few hours under the street lights just to calm down. It was just too weird. It was just from everything that the terrifying things are happening in the woods, the stuff at the boat, and now I'm seeing the stuff with my own eyes. It was just too much. I ended up not getting home to one in the morning,

and I had to work the next day. So I didn't go out with them again. I kind of wanted to forget about it. I didn't want to deal with it anymore. So the winter goes by. And nothing. Not outside. I'm not dealing with it.

I'm busy plowing and sand for the town. I got a lot of stuff going on. So March finally comes. And the weather's getting nice and in the same one that all the stuff happens with. Except he wasn't there for the visual stuff. But he goes, you want to go fishing? I said, yeah, all right. So we meet up

And it's a little river It's deep But there's a lot of fish in it And it's in the middle of nowhere Like in the middle of a A wooded area And it's daylight I get out of the truck

And a rock flies over my truck And he gets out And I said dude A rock just flew over the truck He goes no it didn't And I said yes It's getting old at this point I said yep it just happened

and he goes, dude, it's just people. I said, how many times you're going to say it's just freaking people, dude? Now we're in a totally another spot. And I'm like, you know what? I don't care. So I start fishing with him. Every time we'd cast a law, a rock was hitting exactly the way we were just casting laws. And it got to the point when there's no point being here anymore.

And packed it up, and then we left. And I haven't been near the woods. I can't go back. It's ruined this for me. And this was something that I did. There was nothing. better than I liked to get out of work, grab my fish and poles. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, like, I know a lot of people make this stuff up and stuff, but I have PTSD. And this was my, that was my

number one thing to give me peace of mind and relaxation was to grab a couple beers, throw in my tackle back, walk out a mile or two and just sit there until, you know, nine, 10, 11 o'clock at night and just fish. I can't do that anymore. I'm done. I refuse. Because the next step, yeah, dude, I'm done. So I don't know. Take all that for what you will. I hate liars. I really do.

And I hope you think I'm telling the truth because I actually don't even know. I just want answers. And this is ruining. I'm afraid to go outside at night by myself. I mean, I have 1,200, 13, and 100 acres behind my house. It's creepy. I don't like it. I don't know when the phone caught.

earlier, but I mean, I was younger and weird stuff would happen around here. And I would never, I never thought of this stuff. I mean, I could remember sitting there in high school, a little after that, actually, and something would just smack the side of the house really freaking loud. It would shake the paintings on the wall, and you come outside and there's nothing there. And it's like, okay, was that that? I don't know. None of this makes sense. I can't wrap my head around the cloud with the smoke on it and then magically two more sets of eyeballs appear. Like, I don't know. I don't know if you've ever heard that, but I've never heard that. The first thing I want to say is that it's not crazy because it is so, it's not the first

time that I've heard something like this, although the rock throwing is probably the most intense example I've ever heard of rock throwing, to be honest. I mean, I've never heard that where it follows you to different places like that. It's just, it's, that's, that's very extreme, dude. Yeah, I don't get, I don't get the point. I don't, like, I've tried to ask different people, like, who are you with? I'm like, my friend Dan, or what did he do? I'm like, I don't know.

Hold on, my friend's calling me. I got up mute it. They're like, did you take a pox shot at one of these things or something? I'm like, I don't know, dude. It doesn't make any, so he, out in the tree stand all the time. They don't screw them. I've been out fishing by myself

millions of times in those same woods. Nothing. It's only when we're together. And I don't get it. And nothing adds up. And then, yeah, the thing with the cloud, dude, with the smoky tail on it, with the glitter in it, or whatever you want to call it, and then the thing turns into two more sets of eyeballs.

It's like, what are they doing? Like, what is that? Like, I don't know if that's like how they move around in this realm. Because in my opinion, they're not here all the time. And everyone's like, oh, we're going to go try to find where they live. They don't live here. I don't think they live here. I think that they visit.

And I could be wrong. Maybe they stay here for months on end, and that's why people find nests and tree structures and whatever. but you know after watching a lot of flash of beauty i watched a gentleman i can't remember his name it was out of uh vermont um well what's the capital vermont there i can't think of it oh yeah i know the one you're talking about um i'm blanking too he uh because he does a lot what is that guy's name uh he does a lot tree structure stuff Yeah, he's in all the guys who got glasses. He talks about how these things act a lot like how an autistic person would act.

Right. They know if you move and touch things and they're loud and vocal and they get mad at certain things and they like things in a certain way and they know how things are. So it's like, I don't know if me and Dan, my biggest thing is this. I think that they only are, I've heard this before, that they're coming here to this plane of dimension or realm or whatever certain month of the year. And maybe there's different ones that stay here all the time. I don't know.

And obviously, there's good ones and bad ones. Because the size of these rocks that they're throwing, I'd be dead. So that's the thing that makes me question. Like, if they wanted me dead and they were evil and there was some satanic, evil, I'd be dead already. Because these things are perfectly accurate. It's insane how accurate they are. It makes no sense.

So I can't wrap my head around it because I think there's just so, we're only getting a little glimpse of what these things are doing and what they're capable of. So that's what weird people out. Everybody that's like, oh, it's just a monkey. If I got here, it's a monkey one more time. I'm going to lose my mind. It's not a monkey.

It's not a monkey. There's no way it's a monkey. Oh, well, then it's a monkey. No, you're not missing the point. I know it's not a month. You mean ape in general. Yes, I know primate, whatever. And I will mention this.

I started off like everybody did. Most people do. When I started listening these podcasts, I won't mention the specific podcast that got me into all this stuff. But at the time, I'm sure you'll put two and two together when I sat mentioning it. It was about, it's a lost chain of the evolutionary tree

and these things are no more than some type of branch off the Neanderthals or some whatever, Australopithecus, and then they get in it. It's like, no, no, no, no. These things, they do kill, they do eat, they do live, they poop, they pee, they leave, they leave residue, they leave DNA. But there's so much to this that we don't know, and then everyone wants to put a label on it. Like, I know exactly what it. No, you don't. You don't know crap.

I don't know crap. All I know is what I saw. And it's something not of this world that we're not used to. So I don't know, dude. I don't know. Yeah, it's, man, it is intense. And I'll tell you, like, I've only talked to a few people from Massachusetts, but this is one of the, I would say probably the most intense encounter series I've heard from Massachusetts.

It's weird because, you know, it's an area that you don't hear a lot about, this Plymouth area, which is, you know, south of Austin, not quite the Cape. It's just an interesting area, but there's a lot of, like, swamps and stuff in there. And you've got, like, the Bridgewater Triangle, right? Yes. It's a weird, weird area. I say, what I say, there's got to be, so when I went out with those people that I got linked up, with and you're finding that big giant pile of muscle shells why is there a pile of a hundred plus muscles with a giant imprint in the reeds like this is right on the shore of a lake

there's a giant imprint you can see it it was like I don't know four feet wide two foot you know deep but and there's just like what is that like what are they doing like I don't are they here to, like, use resources. And, like, I mean, I've heard plenty of stories where these Native Americans, you know, say they've seen them near granite walls and they just disappear into a rock wall. It's like, or they go through port. Like, I don't know. And I think the thing is people try to put this thing into a category.

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the elites that run the world don't want every normal person to know where we came from and it's all about power and control. I mean, we don't need to run cars on oil and have like solar crap. It's stupid. It just pollutes more. Oh, electric cars. Oh, yeah, great, yeah. Okay, I bought a Tesla.

Look how great I am. The whole thing is just a facade. The whole thing. And it's like, I want to know. it goes back to the great forgetting. They talk about the great forgetting. Where, obviously, the pyramids aren't just to bury a pharaoh. That's stupid.

Who builds that? That you can't build today, and you don't know how it works, but it's all laser measured, can't put a piece of paper between it between each of the rocks, but yet they did it. Oh, well, yeah, yeah, they built that to put the... No, we're being lied to, and I don't like it, and I want to know why we're being lied to, and these things have something to do,

with where we came from and who we are. And I don't like that certain people, there's somebody, there's multiple people on this planet right now that knows exactly what these things are. That's the sad vibe. No, I agree with that 100%. There are definitely individuals that have more knowledge about this subject

than the general public for sure. Does, so, you know, you experience all this stuff out when you're fishing in other places. Is it at the point where it's also following you home? Like there's weird stuff that happens at home as well? I get to a point where I don't know if it's a paradulia or paranoia, I should say, where I come out at night. Like, I've got to the, like, this is embarrassing. This has bothered me to the point where,

say I'm alone. Like my girlfriend's at her house and my mother, my mother lives with me. I own my own my own house. My mother lives with me. I actually live in my childhood house. My long story short, because of reasons that my mother couldn't keep the house,

I had to step up and buy it. So I own the house that I grew up and I've been here for 30, oh, was it? Yeah, 30 years. I moved here when I was 4. So, I'm 34. I've almost house 30 years. There's been really

weird things that have happened around here, but not lately. Other than the fact that my buddy, well, the first weird thing I've ever noticed around, and this was before I got

into the subject at all. I didn't care. And mind you, I was stationed in Fort Lewis. There's Class A reports on Fort Lewis. Absolutely. I didn't give a crap up. Yeah, I didn't give a crap about that stuff. I was in the Army. I was 22, 23.

I didn't care. I was out drinking and party with people, you know. I didn't care. That Sasquot, oh, yeah, Bigfoot lives in Washington. Like, nobody cared. So I lived in Bigfoot capital of the world, and I didn't care. and come back here and then

you know you get into the podcast a lot but anyway to get back to it I when I was younger

I was in high school and I don't know I was 14 15 and me and my buddy were having a fire at one time and we're out near the woods and like I said

this 1,300 1,300 acres of woods behind my house and we didn't drink back then you know I was a late bloomer we didn't smoke weed we're just sitting there having a fire.

It was dead quiet. It was great. All of a sudden, there's a, you know, a 20-foot sapling. That's still a sapling. It's still, you know, it's only like three inches at the base. Maple Tree. Just shaking. And this thing is screaming.

Just this god-awful screaming. And I had, you know, back then flashlight sucked. There's no, like, LED real stuff back then and whatever. It was just like a stupid, you know, three-de-cell maglight. and I'm shining. There's nothing there. And I'm watching this tree went back and forth with this screaming. And it moved across my yard

without us seeing it and was got into the corner of the other part of the yard and it's doing the same thing. And we're both just standing up. We stood up. We're watching. And there's nothing there. And it just screamed and went off into the woods. And my friend was like, what the frick was that?

So we just, it sounded like a dying goat. So we just called it the goat beast. And he was like, whatever. And I can remember when I got out of the Army, I was 23, and I was sitting at home,

and I was sitting in the chair, watching TV, and all of a sudden it sounded like somebody backed a truck into the house. It was like, boom! And the paintings on the wall moved,

like the TV rattled on the, on the cabinet. I go outside of the flashlight. Nothing there. What was that? Years go by. Now I have what happened to me. Happened.

And nothing remotely around, you know, years and years and years of nothing happened around here. So I've had what happened to me, but not here. So, excuse me, my buddy is a really avid hunter, not the guy that I witnessed this with. This is another kid that I know, that I met at another job. He's, you know, real into everything. He'll go to Maine, go bear hunting with dogs and go coon hunting, all the stuff. And he goes, hey, that property behind your house, that's not posted. I said, no.

You care if I use your eye? I don't park my truck and go in there. I'm like, I don't care. And you sure, I know. So he'll go in there. He was going in there at 4 in the morning. And he set up a tree stand. he come the next day I'm at work

it's already 7 o'clock he's coming out of there he had the day off he goes I have never going in there again I said what happened he goes dude I don't know what that was but it sounded like a bulldozer

going through the woods ripping trees down smashing screaming and I I'm like did it sound like he was screaming I don't know he's like, it was literally yards from me.

I think I had my headlamp on it, and I'm watching the book. You know, it looked like Jurassic Park when the rapt is a kill in the cow. And I'm like, well, what happened? He's like, nothing that took off, and it was gone. He's like, I'm never going in there again. And he's never been back since.

So other than that, the only other thing I can think of was when I was in high school, me and my buddy Dan, the other one of my friend, Dan, he passed away, the other friend Dan, we would go out fishing down these fire roads

where this stuff happened. And we would be on bicycles. And we had, you know, we made fishing rod holders out of PVC pipe and we'd zip, what do you call it, hose clamp them to the frame of the bike and stuff

and you'd have rod holders. And we'd go out to these places. I remember getting ahead of him one day, and I turned around and realize he's not there. So I stopped, and I'm going, Dan, Dan. and a rock hit the back wheel of the bicycle while I'm turned around. I watched it, hit the tire, and hit the ground.

And I'm like, okay. So I turn around and I go back, and he's about 100 foot back, and his chain fell off. So I'm like, what do you? Did you tell a rock to me? He's like, no. I'm like, okay, well, what? No, my chain fell off.

I was like, oh, we did he, So he's screwing with that. He didn't, and that was it. So these things have been there. I've had a really, the other thing I'd think of, I used to drive a rig. I'd have to drive to Stoughton Mass. It took me about an hour. And one day I had to leave at like four in the morning.

I used to have to drive to Lebanon, New Hampshire, to go pick up a load. And I left here at four, and I'm driving my pickup. And I remember watching this, it just looked. like a shadow. It was just the shape of a human, huge, and it was so black that it absorbed the headlight. It was weird. You know, like at night when you go out, your headlights suck more because when the road's wet, it's blacker and it just sets the headlights in. That's what it looked like. It just walked across the road, and it was a ways up, though. And you're like, okay, and this is before I was even into any of this stuff. So it didn't matter to me. I'm like,

Okay, yeah, what was that? I don't know. I'm too tired. I don't care. I don't want to go to work. This sucks. And that was it. So there has been weird things that have happened in my house.

But for some reason, these things I feel like I haven't gone back to any of these places after they screwed with me. And it's almost like, I don't know. It sounds dumb, but it's almost like they're respecting me by not screw with me where I live. I don't know because they have to have some type of not empathy but not respect I can't think of the word but

they are not vindict these ones around here are not vindictive they're not vengeful seeking they're not trying to ruin my life I do get creeped out though coming out here at night I mean the other oh yeah the other night I'm sitting out here

I come out I don't sleep I have insomnia It's from the war, from just stress. I push it to the limit every time. I just got to, I have to be dead tired and just hit this wall. And then I'm like, okay, I'm going to bed. So I have a back porch that's 100 feet from the woods. And I have a little table with an umbrella.

And I came out to smoke a cigarette. And it's dead quiet. All of a sudden, I hear, crack, crack, crack, crack, boom. and this mass of tree fell out. And I kept hearing weird voice, like, you could hear mumbled voices, and then it just stopped. So we did just have a big storm come through. A bunch of trees came down. So it's like, okay, was it that, or is it just, is it these things and they pushed a tree down?

Or is it me being paranoid? And it was just a tree that was ready to fall because of the wind. I don't know, but there's definitely been really weird things around here. Another thing is, and it kind of got me, and I was a little kid, part of my yard now that's actually not a yard anymore, it's all woods now, and it goes up to the main road. It was a field when I was a kid. My dad would mow it, and the grass would get up about three foot high, four, four high, and my dad would mow it.

Well, then we gave up on it. but I remember being a little kid walking up there and there would be these big impressions in the high grass huge and there would always be a turd in the middle of it like a big one

like it looked like a really really big human turd and it'd be like oh me and my friend would be hanging on and be like what's that and be like oh that's where a deer was and he's like oh that's probably deer poop and you're like okay but what was it?

I don't know. For all I know, it was a hobo that was just coming in crap. I don't know. It was just weird. It was just one of those weird things. And my father, I remember him waking me up.

He's passed away, but I might have been like eight or nine. He came in my room early on a Sunday morning. He goes, hey, did you hear that? I said, no. He said, it sounded like a Clydesdale running through the yard.

I said, no, I didn't hear anything. He's like, I could feel it in my bed. I said, what do you mean? He's like, I could feel the, the thumping in my bed on the second floor, which is now my room. I'm, you know, I'm like, I'm like, no, I didn't, I mean, he's like, that was strange. I said, I don't know. And that was it. But there's been weird stuff, and I've seen the dogs just lose their mind.

Oh, and the other thing I wanted to tell you, that rock that it threw in the bed of the truck that one time and halfway, pawn. When I got home, I was curious. So I got a Jack Russell and a beagle. And the beagle is kind of like a vegetable. I adopted her. She was like a breeder dog. Some piece of crap just used her to pump out puppies and left her in a kennel.

So she's kind of like out of it. But the Jack Russell, the male, I've had him since a puppy. He's a very smart dog. I took the rock and I went to see what he did. do. And I put it down on the ground on the floor in the living room. He went over to it, smelled it, and went right in his crate. And he just sat there and looked at me. That's not normal. He was freaked out. I don't. And everyone was like, oh, yeah, whatever. No, he looked, he was fine. His wagon's tail. It came up to me. He was happy. And he's fine. He loves to see me. I just said,

here, and I put that rock down. And he smelled it. And he went, nope. And he went right in the crate, sat there. So what was that? I don't know. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I'm just telling you what I have witnessed. So the problem with this subject is you instantly get labeled a fruit gig and it sucks, especially around here like you know. This doesn't happen here. Absolutely. Well, this is not, yeah. I think, so I think personally it happens there. Just people are scared out of their minds to be labeled, as you just said, and no one talks about it. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts

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They talk about, you both talk about down, well, not you two, but like the people you interview, down south, I mean, they got Bougar Hollow, Booger this, watch out for the boogas, all these people. They were raised around it, but it was still taboo to talk about it. It's not like Washington State where it's like, oh, yeah, it's like a commercial thing.

Here, this place out of everywhere, this is the number one no-no zone. You do not talk about it here. This is, you know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you don't get many responses when you go around talking to people out in that area of New England for sure. Is it a thing where you want these interactions to stop, or you're kind of okay with them?

Feeling I get, and I don't know if it's based on reality or not, but what I'm assuming is this. That one time it showed itself behind, and it walked behind the truck and Dan saw it, and I didn't, I'm jealous of him in a weird way, because it's, what I want, my mind can't make it, up. I mean, I've seen their eyes. I've seen the outline of them. I've seen the cloud weird thing

that I can't explain. That makes no sense. But if I had a face-to-face encounter at 20 feet, I don't know what I would do. I don't know. I don't, I'd probably pass out. I don't know. I don't know. Like, I don't. But yet, the other part of my brain is like, you want that. You want to see one. you want to just have that a final piece of proof where it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks because it's just for you. But I'm like, well, in my head, I'm like, I already got to that point. I'm already there. It's just the thing is, what I saw could be labeled as anybody else in the industry could be like,

okay, so did you actually see a seven-foot-tall Sasquatch standing in front of you? No, I didn't. Okay, well, then how do you know it's not a demon? How do you know it's not a ghost? How do you know? I don't know that. But I'm 90% sure that's what that frick it is, because it doesn't, it lines up with that. It couldn't be.

It's not Skinwalker. It's not a, no, obviously, it's definitely not a freaking bear. So none of it makes sense. So I have a gut feeling that if I went out tonight, for some reason, like I, said, being aware of these things, it's almost like the more you invite this into your life, the more you're going to see it. So if I had a little bit more willpower or, well, balls, I'd go out there tonight and I'd sit out there. The last place has happened with me and Dan, and I would sit there. And it would come. They would come. I know for a fact, it would come.

Because it has nothing to really do with him. It's like, I'm there. Now they know I'm aware of them, and they're aware of me. So if I want to see one, I'm going to see one. Do I want to? No. Not right now. But yet I do.

But I want that thing that everybody else gets. It'd be nice to be like, I was driving to work, and I saw one of these things walk right in front of me. Did I kind of see that? A little bit. But it was just a big giant shadow. I don't know what that was. I want to see hair, eyes, you know, the shine from the eyes.

I want to see its mouth open. I want to see its teeth. I want to see, but in a car, driving. If I'm out in the woods where I used to go, and one of these things is there, I don't think that I'm quite ready for that. But then again, I've been listening to these shows for a long time, and I've been listening to these interviews for a long time. and very rarely have I ever heard of them actually hurting anybody.

I have heard it. It's just extremely rare. And again, it goes back to what they did to me, and I saw how great they are with throwing. If they wanted to kill me, they would have killed me already. So I'm kind of, yeah, they could have easily, especially that one rock dude that was the size of a freaking basketball. I don't know how, I told, you know, you've got to,

be careful who you open up to about this stuff. So you kind of find a friend that's open to certain things. Like, do you believe in aliens? Oh, oh, yeah. Why wouldn't it? And I have a whole other theory in aliens. I don't think they're actually that good. But anyway,

you try to open up to people. And then, like, no, what are you doing? Like, okay, you know what? Never mind. I'm done. You know? Like, there's no point. So, I'm kind of... It's almost... like living, I'll put it this way.

I'm sure other veterans could relate to this, or cops or anybody that's been through something really, really bad. You are the only person most likely in your immediate family or group setting, work setting, whatever, that's going to know what you went through. And you're going to be the only person that has had that experience. So it's, you kind of feel like an outcast because, no one else is going to get you. Now you had this into it.

This is fairy tale stuff to people. This is, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, dude. You're nuts. Just, were you drinking? No. And like every other thing. I don't know anybody that's hallucinated off a drink. So I don't know, man.

It's kind of like once you get into this, it's kind of like a curse. It's not a horrible, evil curse that's, like, ruined your life. I mean, I'm sure that there are, people that actually have had this ruin their life. I mean, in a way it is, I guess, to me, because I can't go in the woods by myself anymore. So I guess it did kind of, but I'm not going to dwell on it. It's just one of my hobbies went down the toilet. Right.

That's all I can say. It definitely affects different people in different ways, sometimes way worse than others. and it is interesting how there seems to be a pattern where, you know, people that have had some heavy traumatic. Oh, no way, really? I can. Your call has been forwarded. This is the wildest interview of all time. Let's try again.

Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message. Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message. message system. Seven. Yeah, there goes the phone again. Jordan, that was really, I was like, there's no way that just happened again.

Holy mackerel. Yeah, I did. That was on my landline, dude. There's no way that. Dude, listen, I've lived here for 30 years. That is the same phone number I've had. That is not the same phone. That phone has been in the same spot for three decades.

I have never, ever had this happen, ever in my entire life. And the phone, again, when you cut out, I looked at it, it never hung up. Wow. They kept counting. It kept counting the minutes. The phone never went, eh, eh, and, nothing, dude. It's so weird. Man, you definitely have some pretty intense stuff going on.

I mean, that's one way to look at it. I would say there's probably some intense stuff going on. Oh, man, I don't know. So here's my question, you've been doing this a lot longer than, and you've known a lot. You have heard, I haven't even fully touched your whole catalog

of what you've done, okay? So you've heard everything and everything, okay? Yeah. What do you really make of that phone? Usually what, so I hear from a lot of other podcasters that have,

um, um, phone issues and usually, so that's the weird thing because usually when it happens on my show is there's, to talk about, the person is starting to talk about, um, we're more fringe topics like giants or or nephalum or stuff where it's like they, you know, they in quotation marks really don't

want that out there. Um, so it's, it's weird though because, you know, yours, you haven't been, I mean, I just, I can't figure it out, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's very strange stuff. Yes, it is. I think it's because this is a very wealthy area and there's a lot of money around here. I mean, you got the cape. You got, like, I work and wear him. So you got onset, all that stuff. Rochester, where I live.

We don't even have a street light, dude. Like, they keep this, yeah, they keep this. The houses around here are going for, this used to be like a redneck town. It was a blue call of town. Now it's all doctors and lawyers that work in Boston that, you know, they don't mind driving an hour to work or they remotely work. So this became a very ritzie town. I live in a very ritzie town and it was not like that when I was a child at all. So I'm wondering if money has to do with this.

I get really frustrated with what's going on because obviously the world's not the way it's supposed to be. and obviously we've been lied to. I mean, you can get into what's going on on the, I mean, the news is full of, the news is garbage anyways. But you look at, you know, I voted for Trump. Now, oh, yeah, we're going to get the files. Now, oh, nope, they don't exist. So what are you hiding?

What are you all playing this game? You all holding these secrets to the world and we're as a human race. We're not allowed. We're not worthy. of knowing all this stuff. So what I think it's getting to is the veil is getting really thin.

Yeah. And people are starting to wake up and they don't like it. And it's scaring them. Because now, you know what they did? They played the left and the right. And now people are starting to go, hey, they screwed me over.

Yeah, they screwed me too. Oh, really? Exactly. Oh, well, geez. Well, you know what? I don't hate you anymore. I think we have this common enemy. Oh, really.

that's the common enemy. It's the people that hold the secrets and I don't like it and it bothers me. And I'm not afraid of them. I'm not afraid of them. It's wild, wild stuff, Jordan. And man, like you're, I can 100% say like

your story is not a just in the past thing. Like there's probably going to be stuff that continues to happen. If I went out right now, if I went out right to where I was at and I stayed till dusk, I'm going to have something happen to me. And that's what I know. And that's what stops me from doing it. It's not like,

it's not paranoia anymore. It's a fact. You know what I mean? It's just a fact that that's what sucks, dude. And I'm stuck now. So when I want to go fishing, I have to go in highly public areas because they won't do it there. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers

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So around here, everybody goes to this place called the lakes. And that's down in Lakeville Middleboro line. And it's technically one big lake, but they divided it with a causeway. And it's the quiddicus, little quidicis, assamom set, that stuff. If I go out, that's where that stuff happened. And if I go out there right now, because these things know I'm aware of them, I'm going to have stuff happen to. And I don't want it to.

So I feel like I'm a prisoner. So it's like I work all day. I work hard. I do a good honest living. And all I want to do is have my peace. And I can't have that anymore. And I don't think they really mean harm, like I said. But it's like, it's still enough to startle you.

And just to be like, I'm done. I don't know what to do. I even actually called one of my sergeants from the Army. I won't mention his name, but he grew up in Oklahoma. I think I'm pretty sure it's not Cherokee's Chalked off and I asked him what to do and he goes you got to go out there and leave him something and then they'll leave you alone and I'm like really he goes yep I said okay well even at that I still don't want to risk it you know yeah different people definitely have you know that's one that's one thing that does usually come up some people will even you know use prayer use the name of Jesus Christ in order to say, okay, leave me alone. It's really, you know, different people end up using different things. And it has a lot to do of like, okay, what are you putting your faith in?

It's very strange. But different things do seem to have, you know, different things work for different people. It's very strange, the stories that you hear. But I think at this point, you know, you don't want things to happen so you're not going out. But, man, imagine if you could get to the point where you could kind of stop things from happening and then you could go enjoy the woods again, right? Or fishing. It's just why are they choosing to, because where I go, there's people out there at night all the time. They're not getting bothered.

So it's strange. And it comes down back to, I'm aware of them and they know that I'm aware of them. So then they're going to make their presence known. And then they go, okay, it's time to go. And what that Native American sergeant I had told me was basically, you know, they are aware of you and you're aware of them. And now you both know each other. And now they want you to leave because they're there to.

do their thing. They're there to grab fish. They're there to grab muscles or they to get their energy or their, you know, gathering or whatever. And they want you out. Okay. So why don't you do that to everybody? Why are you doing that to other people that are there fishing late at night? I talk to plenty of guys in there and I say, hey, you go down there at night. Yeah? Anything out? Nope. Okay. So it's just really weird why I'm the one that's getting bought. It just, it makes no sense. Jordan, what a conversation. I mean, I never would have thought just stuff like you're experiencing is going on in that corner of Massachusetts.

I mean, I'm so glad that we got connected and that you were able to share what you've experienced over the years. And, you know, please, you know, if stuff does happen in the future, you know, please feel free to reach out. if you have any updates but yeah just such an interesting story it's intense and man

I hope the best best for you with all this I think you're going to get a handle on it even more than you do now yeah for sure I hope I do I just I don't I don't think I'm

it's still fresh dude I don't think I can it's still there I don't think that I'm going to be alone in the woods anytime soon. Definitely not at night. That's the thing. I'll go out. I'll go out, you know.

Here's the other thing. Me and Dan went out in May and looked for antlers, and he had a gun on them, and we were out in those same woods, and nothing happened. So there's one instance where nothing happened, and I pushed my, anxiety level to the max and we, you know, we separated and I don't own a firearm. And nothing happened. So, okay, there's one instance. But I'm not going to make it a regular thing.

I'll get a handle on it and it will be good. I just, again, like you said, that's something you don't hear from here. And I hope, at least this, I hope that if somebody listens to this, that's, this is going to be people that listen to this that knows exactly where I'm talking about. There's going to be people that are, that listen to your show. They're like, I know where that is, I know where that is, I know where that is, and hopefully

one of them has had something where I can listen to a future show. And they're like, oh, well, I listen to that guy, Jordan that came on. And he gave me the inspiration to come on and say this. That way, I can hear

it and know that I'm not totally freaking nuts. 100% and I love when that works and people pretty much encourage other people to to come on and ends up helping them and it's a back and forth but man jordan thank you so much for for coming on the show we will definitely be in touch yeah thank you so much for reaching out dude no problem thanks for listening to another episode of bigfoot society and also a special thanks to jordan from massachusetts who he's episode actually in real time took hours and hours in order to be recorded but was well worth it in the end to those that are listening to the show that might not want this to continue hey thanks for listening and i'm sure you'll be messing up future interviews as well if you enjoyed listening to the show please make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to and share it with a

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