Bigfoot Society - They Followed Me to Washington | California
Episode Date: October 5, 2025What happens when a retired law enforcement officer from the Pacific Northwest finally speaks about the strange encounters that haunted her for decades — from her childhood home in Santa Rosa, Calif...ornia, to the wild forests of Oregon? In this eerie and compelling episode, we meet Liz — a straight-talking former cop who spent years rationalizing what she couldn’t explain. Until she couldn’t anymore. From the moment something loomed behind plate glass in the dead of night… to watching a hulking figure descend a moonlit hill… to being gifted a pristine turkey tail feather after asking aloud for one — Liz’s journey is filled with terror, mystery, and strange intelligence. You’ll hear firsthand accounts from Cloverdale, Montgomery Woods, Canyon Creek, and the Bryce Creek Trail — including primal screams in the night, unexplainable apparitions, and a chilling final moment when she realized: “These people are still around me.” This is more than just a Sasquatch story — it’s a look at how these encounters reshape our sense of reality.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire
stories to bring you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible
from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways.
The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in, because today you'll hear another account
that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us.
All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Liz today.
Liz is a listener from the Pacific Northwest and also retired.
law enforcement and she's got a few things that she would like to share that have happened to her on the show today. So welcome to the show, Liz. How are you doing?
Thank you. I'm pretty good. Fantastic. It is, it's a good day out here. Hopefully you're having a good day as well. And we were talking a little bit before that, you know, you're just, you're just glad to be able to get some of this out there in the air and be able to talk about it. So, yeah, I'm, I'm,
just glad that you're able to.
Yeah, it's not exactly like a conversation starter at cocktail parties, you know.
Right.
Not your normal ones, although it might be one or two out there, but yeah, your normal,
your normal ones, I totally get it.
I kind of meet somebody that I feel like I can I can talk to or just sort of throw it out there too.
And, you know, and then I just start to sit back and go, you know, if you think I'm a weirdo,
so be it, it's no skin off my nose.
Absolutely.
You just kind of get to the point where.
hey, it really happened.
It doesn't really matter how the other person feels.
You know, it's still happened to you at the end of the day.
But, you know, feel free to take us back to where this happened to you, when it happened,
and what you're experiencing.
And then we'll chat about it afterwards.
Okay.
So the first couple experiences happened and were really interesting,
but I didn't know what was happening,
so I suppose at the time it would have been even worse
if I had a clue
what was going on or what I would seem.
But like so many people,
I think it wasn't until finding Bigfoot came out
in 2011 or whenever it was
that I kind of started putting things together
and I was like, that's what that was.
But anyway, the first thing,
and I still don't know what this was,
but the first thing that happened would have been
in about,
1887 or 88 thereabouts and I grew up on a property outside of Santa Rosa, California, on San Rosa Creek.
And we had about five acres out there. And as soon as I turned 18, I moved to a little studio
outbuilding that my father had originally built before he built our house. So he and my mother
had lived in that, but we built a house.
which was 100 yards away up the hill.
Anyway, so it had plate glass windows that overlooked the creek,
and while there was a flat area that sort of sloped down to the creek bed itself.
And so my bed was right in front of those windows,
and I was sleeping one night,
and I heard something walking around out in front of the windows,
which wasn't unusual, and we had deer and whatever, all kinds of critters out there.
But it seemed heavier than a deer at the time.
And so I kind of made note of, you know, oh, I wonder what that is or just sort of,
okay, there's something wandering around out there.
But then I got the sense that there was something looming over me on the other side of the windows.
And I just felt, I don't know that I even felt terror.
much as evil. So I kind of scattered to think what it might have been since I know other people
with other experiences kind of describe the feeling of evil. So I was just so petersified. I just laid there
in a fetal position. My back had already been to the window and I just laid there. So I still don't
know what that was. I do have memories of having feelings growing up there that there was. There was an area of the
property that I just didn't go to by myself.
And I had always felt kind of creeped out by it.
And that area was behind the studio where I was living.
In fact, I never really went back there, even with one area where I would kind of rest
to go by it to get into the studio while I lived there.
Anyway, so that was that one.
and in
1989 or 90
there about
my
person and I
was driving along the
101, Highland 101
along the Brexon River between
Cloverdale and Toplin
and
it was
nighttime, including the summer
in nighttime because the hills were all
golden, the hills
kind of went, it was kind of a river valley there, if you will. And so the hills rose fairly
steeply, one side, I guess it would have been the east side of the highway. And there was road
construction going on there at the time. And I remember there was a, there was like a pullout
there along the river somewhere with a big pile of like road base or gravel or something. And
So he pulled off wanting to get frisky.
So he pulled off and pulled behind the pile of gravel.
And I remember, like, you know, we started doing what young people do.
And all of a sudden, I mean, we weren't there very long,
and all of a sudden I just flipped out, you know,
being in the wilderness work in Starvation.
And basically really treat me on.
We had been camping.
So it was not like me at all to feel this panic.
And I said, we got to get out of here now.
And he looked at me like, heck is wrong with you.
But he agreed.
And as we were driving away, I looked up the hill and I could see sort of the storm coming down the hill.
It must have been a full moon or close to it because I think it was dark, but like the hills sort of in the summertime there, they get yellow and the dead grass and they kind of flowed in the moonway.
So I saw this storm, and I was like, oh, there's a bear.
Like, okay, interesting.
I've never seen a bear here before.
And so it was walking down this fairly deep hill.
and and then it stood up and continued to walk down the hill on two legs and and then we were by it so i
sort of i had no real time to think you know what was that it was oh a bear oh wait it stood up
what says what and then we were gone and i i had no understanding of what that was at the time
or not even enough understanding to be suspicious
when it was at the time.
I was just, you know,
the brain just sort of went late, huh?
And then I sort of put it out of my mind
until we saw finding Bigfoot
and people started, you know,
people were talking about the fear.
And then I put it together.
I thought it was kind of interesting.
The other experience I had before
pre-finding Bigfoot
was about 1999.
nine at the McLeod River. I think we were, I think we had hiked to Upper and we were coming back and there was
a row of three six bushes along the trail and I got this had this funky smell. I don't remember
now exactly what it was. I was just like overcome with this nasty smell and I assumed it was a bear.
again I didn't know any better time and made it but had this super cheesy feeling of being watched and
so it sort of moved along rather quickly along the trail I was I think I was head of my dad who was
listening anyway so that was the that was the only other pre-finding bigfoot
experience the next thing that happened I think it would have been about
about 2012, between 2012, 2014, maybe.
And a friend of mine and I were hiking at Montgomery Woods in Sonoma County, California.
And both of us, well, we heard something off the trail and turned and looked and
saw just out of the corner of our eye before it disappeared, something sort of settling around
under a, I guess it would have been a redwood tree.
And we both remembered seeing something kind of a rain-outain color.
So we saw the thing with reddish hair.
We just saw it out of our peripheral vision.
So it was almost like we saw it out of our peripheral vision.
Both of them thought, but then as we turned to face it, it wasn't there.
And we both said, where did that go?
What was that?
Where did it go?
let's go see what it was.
And then as we're sort of
stomping off trails to go try and figure out
where we had seen it, and I said, okay, wait,
that's a good idea because we thought,
wait, was that a bear?
And, you know, the old, oh, it's a bear.
And so we kind of got closer to the area
where it had been and suddenly got started thinking,
you know, this isn't a good idea.
And turned around and walked back to the trail.
but but and again it wasn't until I think I had started listening to podcasts about
softwatch that I even put that together and I called her and asked if he remembered what we had
seen and basically she remembered it as I just pulled it but anyway so I told her you know
but guess what I think that was she was kind of weirded out but anyway so you know
Now, interestingly, it was about that time frame, I believe,
where my husband was on a slow camping trip around California.
And I came home from camping and related this incident.
He was standing at this campground.
It was an RV campground, but there were tents on one side and RVs on the other.
It was pretty late in the season.
So he was over in the tent area by himself.
And he said at about two or three in the morning,
he woke up to some, like, tremendously loud scream.
And it was utterly terrifying.
He described feeling it, like, in his death,
and wanting to make a run for his trust,
but not really being sure that he'd make it.
So he just kind of stayed put and was, for example,
and here
I think he actually
stayed out there at second night
anyway, but
and I want to say it happened
the second night too, and then he was
like, I was going to be leaving.
And then
typical of a lot of people, you know,
we were talking about it, and I said,
I said, well, what did it sound like?
Well, it kind of sounded like
those idiots on finding Bigfoot.
And so I played
different sounds for him and, you know, all kinds of other sounds.
And I said, so it's a big player.
And he goes, no, no, I don't know.
I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was.
And I'm like, dude, I played, you know, Pugger is it there.
And all those things are when I play a big book call.
Yeah, it sounded more like that.
I'm like, oh, uh-huh, but you don't know what it was.
Okay.
You stick to that story.
Anyway, so that was his experience, more information that people are gleaning of more
people there.
Lots of your listeners agree with.
Anyway, so in about
2020, we moved to a
rural property
in Oregon.
Oh, actually, while we were in the process
of moving, I
was staying with a friend and
went out and
woke up at like three in the
morning and
I heard a distance
really, really loud
call. It was a long way
away, but it was so loud. It was easy to discern, easy to hear. It wasn't faint, but it wasn't
like sundering like it was super close either. 2020, fall of 2020, we moved to about 60 miles
that was the Croplice away from Oak Ridge, Oregon. And because I've been listening to all the
podcasts and I know what they do to dogs and I have dogs.
When we got to the property, it was, we were in a small town, but at the outskirts of the town.
Like we were the last street, you know, ridge. And and so I just sort of put out psychically
into the universe, you know, blessings to you and your family. I don't wish you in
harm and the adopt are my family and basically, you know, I need you to leave them alone.
And if you don't, I know who to call to rain terror on you.
I wanted to come in peace and keep welcoming, but I also wanted to let them know that I
want somebody to screw it, you know, if there was anybody around.
You know, I don't know if that was a good thing or if that opened up some sort of whatever.
They realized that I was just somebody who knew about them.
So I drove up one day to the house and heard a wooden.
Another time there, I was a primary bedroom overlooked the hill going up to the back to the back of the property.
and I couldn't take my eyes off that hill.
Like it just always felt like maybe there was something creeping there
or just something that I was like I just couldn't stop looking.
There was a lot of brush on the property.
I was sitting at the back of the property.
You didn't have a very far line of sight until we had the brush weird.
So a friend of mine and I were sitting at the back of the property
and they would say
who haven't seen it
this kind of a bit
and you're saying
wow it's really neat that you can always
fly the furtie
and said yeah
you know the feathers are really cool
they're plain a width
I could gather some tail feathers
because I was just getting the ones from those wings
that they'd drunk forward
but I'd really love to have
you know some tail feathers this was a really pretty one
and
so anyway and getting to think of it
we had the brush
work done. And then
within about
a week the brush being cleared
it was about two weeks after my
sense of it. Down where I
picked up the mail, I was driving
down the driveway one day and
there was this brown thing sort of
blowing in the breeze down where I
always stopped to get the mail.
So I stopped and I thought, what is that?
The litter or whatever, I better put it up.
So I went to pick it up
And it was the whole inside fan.
I don't know what you call it, you know, the iridescence.
So I picked it up and I was like, instantly I remembered that I had made that comment.
It was like, so I just sort of said, wow, you know, thank you.
It was all together.
I mean, it wasn't like something had shredded a turkey and there were just, you know, feathers everywhere.
It was a complete sound time around then.
I went on a hike with some friends up there on
Pottage Grove and we're hiking along the trail to a waterfell
and there was a group of us and one of the people in the group
was really excited to be on the trip hike and they were kind of running back and forth
and loudly guiding the hike and just were excited and
really loud and exuberant and
And there was kind of a little chill on one side.
And all of a sudden I got this sense that there was this presence that was like right next to me,
like, strongly demanding to know what the disturbance was about in my head, you know,
because I got the feeling that something just sort of turned on a feel and thought on with him.
But so that was weird.
It's kind of a phrase that's been punctuating the last few years of my life.
Oh, that was weird.
The last thing that happened up.
Oh, no.
I saw it straight.
I was looking at, so after we got the breast cleared, I was looking at the bedroom window one day.
I can't remember what kind of day it was.
but and I saw something that
rough
like what I
in what my brain said was
oh that was a turkey that just
flew away but like that trajectory
like if there was a turkey or a chicken that was
you know standing in one stuff and then just sort of
fluttered up and and away because they don't go really high
you know and they just sort of
scoot along from this above
as crowned, but it was kind of that trajectory of
46 degrees angle.
But it was faster than that, but I gave it a complete blur.
And I hadn't heard that described yet.
I don't think in any of the podcasts that I listened to,
but then I did start hearing that.
So then it was like, seriously again.
And I asked that a name.
native elder
friend of
mine who said
just real offhandedly
oh yeah
that's them going
between dimensions
oh okay
say it with me
that was weird
anyway
so
and then the last
thing that happened
there was
my husband
was gone
he and my son
were on a trip
and I was
just going to sleep
and
I mean, I don't know what this was.
It could have been a dream.
I don't know.
But my memory is that I was just sort of starting to drift off.
And I had this vision of what like the old TV screens that there was snow and the silhouette of.
My goodness.
So how recent again was when you saw the like TV screen with the silhouette?
that would have been somewhere around
22
and then we moved
and I don't have to deal with that anymore
we moved to the thing
okay gotcha
so you move to an area in the city
now there's nothing
because you're inside city limits
and all that
yeah well
we're in the largest city in
Washington
okay so
so yeah
and then I
looked up and I thought
oh great
like the most
sightings are in
the state of Washington
like oh great
right
great boys
well I mean
yeah
you're right
they totally are
and it does depend
where you are
but yeah
that state is definitely number one
you said something really quick
I'm pretty much close to a bull's eye
but I don't really go out
I hurt my back
I hurt my back
when we were living in
in Oregon.
So I don't hike anymore
very far.
So I just sort of
stay to the sidewalk
and the really short hikes
that, you know, aren't very far out.
So, and I certainly
don't camp anymore.
You had said really quick,
and I think you were referring
to the Bigfoot when you said it,
or Sad Squatch, you said these people
were you referring to them
when you said that?
Yes.
So I'd be interested to know what was it that you meant by when you refer to them as these people.
I guess that kind of leads into what is your thinking when you think of Sasquatch, what they are?
Yeah, there are people.
I don't know. I'm not an anthropologist.
But, you know, they're not a monkey.
They seem to have a language.
They communicate with one another.
They communicate with us.
So I wouldn't know how else to characterize them.
Gotcha.
The property where there was a lot of really weird stuff happening or starting to happen.
Like you found the turkey feathers in the tail, the tail of the turkey feathers, which is really interesting.
Did anything else, did anything else?
Did anything ever happen inside the house or did it seem to there's almost like a barrier where stuff inside you're good but outside maybe a little weird?
Nothing happened in the house and I've lived in houses where we've had paranormal activity before.
So one of us seems to be a magnet for that.
So we didn't have anything happen in there were lots of windows.
And so I always kind of felt, and not a lot of window covering because the windows
I always felt a little creaked out.
I kept the windows, or I kept the blinds drawn as soon as evening hit in my bedroom.
But, yeah, it felt like there was, felt like there was a barrier.
Gotcha.
Did the Bigfoot stuff happen first for you, or did the Parano?
stuff start to happen first in your life?
Yeah, the secret stuff.
I didn't notice any sort of normal anything when I was a kid.
So my husband is an empath, and I've later had someone tell me that I was also,
but I think given my career path and the fact that, you know, if you're in law enforcement,
if you are an empath, you have to shut back down,
quick and I definitely set back down early in my career.
So I had kind of, I mean, I think my emotions were shut down for a long time and I
kind of compartmentalized, you know, way of coping with life in general.
I mean, emotions were pretty set down.
So I don't know that I would have felt a whole lot.
the paranormal stuff that I experienced in in our home was years before.
It was pretty obvious.
And it was, I mean, that happened to all of us.
We all noticed, including the dogs.
Oh, wow.
Did the Bigfoot activity, did that become more prevalent after you were done with law enforcement?
was that kind of, I'm trying to see if maybe there's, you know, you had, you had shut down being an empath during your law enforcement years.
And then I'm guessing there's a point where you retired and then you kind of were able to open that up a bit.
Yeah, definitely.
I retired in 2015.
And so the sightings that I had early on, well, let's see, my first experience was before I got.
into law enforcement. The second experience was just about the time I was starting in law
enforcement, the fear and the fighting. And the other, let's see, the along the McLeod River,
that was early in my career. And all of those were really the ones where I felt something,
as opposed to, you know, the one that was later in my career,
maybe end of my career was biting out of the corner of my eye.
I didn't get a feeling about anything.
It was just a visual, quick visual.
So, yeah, I mean, you made it make the point that the more close interactions,
you know, that I had in more recent years were long as well.
Have you ever checked with anyone else that would have been in the house
that you had that vision with the silhouette of the Sasquot shape,
I guess that probably would have been your husband would have been in the same house
and your son.
Did you ever check with them to see if they had similar experiences?
Oh, no.
I mean, I didn't want to freak out my son.
And my husband probably would have said something because, no, I don't know.
No, I haven't asked him explicitly.
I'll do that and get back to you at me.
hasn't been interesting for me.
But they both just sort of regard my staff watch fascination as, you know, whatever,
mom's quirky, stupid, whatever.
So I don't really talk to them a whole lot about it.
I mean, I have talked to my kids about them and about other things that they might run into in the woods.
One of my boys had a career in the, or chose a career that's going to take him into the woods,
a lot and he spent a lot of time out in the forest and so I wanted to kind of explain to him
what's out there and you know basically if you believe me you believe me and so we kind of had
some conversations about it he sort of looked at me at a stance when I started trying to bring
it up to him because he's been out and was a lot and didn't have any kind of obvious experience
but then I think he kind of started
listening to me a little
and so
I think he
said he heard a whistle one time
that he thought was a little weird and I'm like yeah well
don't whistle back
and then
so
yeah
I didn't know
so that's interesting and then the other one
the younger one
and the older one is
pretty interesting
the younger one I know has
had, has spent
paranormal stuff before as well.
He's kind of
emotionally guarded and then dying and
tends to see something himself.
I know when he was younger,
he definitely, we had
looked at a house to buy and he said,
no, I got a creepy room in there. Let's not buy that one.
And so I was like, all right, I'm going to listen to that.
After we had already had the experience
with a paranormal and the other house, I was,
you know, it certainly
can't listen to his advice.
But anyway, so,
oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I was just cool.
I thought, we're going with that.
Anyway, so I've talked to him, too,
and because he, he wants to go into a line of work
that is now going to potentially have him out in the,
in the woods.
So I've talked to him about them, too,
and I think, I'm going to say,
the first one, look, I've seen one of these things.
Don't, you know, like, I'm not this crazy.
You know, if I told you I saw a 400-pound, you know, black bear, you'd believe me, right?
Right.
Yeah.
It was like, yeah.
So I said, well, I saw one of these things.
Here's exactly what I saw.
You tell me what it was.
And so, anyway, so I think they believe me, but they also, like, you know,
their young man, they have to see something to believe it if it's just sounds unbelievable.
But I said, you know, I'm going to tell you about it.
And so that if you do say something or have an experience at some point, you'll know what's going on.
And you'll know how to hate it and what to do and at least it's best we know.
And I think that's hope for the best.
I think that's good that, you know, you're doing that as a mom.
I mean, you know the things are out there.
They're going out into the woods.
And so you're kind of putting that out there, even though they may look at you a little funny.
It's still important to you.
And I think that's good that you did that for sure.
Did you ever wish he had made another decision?
You were talking about the vision of the screen with the silhouette
and you were kind of like you shut it all down.
Do you ever wish that would have played out differently?
Or do you feel confident in the decision that you made?
Just curious.
I mean, I don't say I'm not curious, but I don't need to.
I don't need to cultivate that relationship.
I got you.
My life's complicated.
That's funny.
You had mentioned Cottage Grove really quick, which is a really active area.
And you mentioned you were out there hiking by a waterfall.
Is that, are there any more details you can provide about the area that you were in outside of Cottage Grove?
let me see if I can
I can't remember the name of the trail
I'd be happy to share the name of the trail
but
drove by the Reno Lake
yeah
yeah
and
it was
a waterfall
I want to say there was a lower
and a Bryce Creek Trail
or Bryce Creek
yeah Bryce Creek
okay
so the Bryce Creek
balls or
I'm
kind of
going
trying to see
I
want to say
Bright Street
trail
okay
yeah I see
that
there's a
lower trail
I could
totally be
making that
up
but I want to say
it was
it was along
there somewhere
okay
cool
cool thank you
we were
we weren't
hoping
to the upper
falls
gotcha
gotcha
do you
feel
good at the
place that you are now where you're in an area where things kind of settled down and you don't
have to worry about it or do you kind of wish that there was still stuff that you would experience
at times? No, I actually kind of had a weird experience the other night, which I hope is a dream,
but I don't know, I don't know what it was. Two nights ago, I was in bed. I don't sleep really
well often.
And so I think I was those in back, huh, or something had awakened me.
I'm not sure.
Anyway, so then I thought I heard somebody digging in the garden, which is right
behind my wall, my bedroom wall.
It was like if somebody drove a pickaxe into the ground, it sounded like that.
There's something coming from one direction and it's my son yelling in this.
room on his discord or something. But anyway, so I didn't know where that I think.
And then I kind of felt like a tingling that started at the top of my head and sort of went down to my shoulders.
And when we had paranormal experiences before, that's what I was serious.
It's that tingling. And so I tried to like, I think of
said it
there one
and say no
and it goes for a second
and then
continued down my body
after it's just sort of
paralyzed down
that
that is extremely interesting
it sounds like you have
something in mind
that you'll be doing
to probably
work against
those
whatever
potentially is going on
do you know the history
of the house as well
yeah pretty much
I mean there's
yeah
that neighbor's
who's been here for since the place was devastard.
So there's no weird or creepy history or anything.
We haven't been having paranormal experiences since we've been here, thankfully.
My husband had something about a little something a lot about that I, and I recently
And at least my own a regular basis with different stuff, tobacco and cedar and saved.
So it's tough to do.
But it was odd to me that I heard a noise out.
But, you know, like immediately before this thing happened.
And then, and I kind of got the sense of, you know, the tooling was over-taking.
I think, you know, I almost felt the sense that it, you know, I almost felt the sense that it,
It was feeling
that's same or
like it wasn't
more levelment.
Like it was scary,
but I didn't
feel like it was
malevolent.
It feels like there's a pattern
of you're constantly keeping something at bay
and just like,
no,
just get out of here.
But just kind of
keeps coming up.
I don't know.
And not that it's my job
to figure this,
figure out what's going on either but I just it's very intriguing I feel like it's it's not a story that
that finished when you guys left to go to Washington if you to get what I mean I feel like there's
other stuff probably Bigfoot itself is a mystery but you get deeper into it and then there's
these other mysteries inside of it which is you know what's the connection you see these
patterns where it's like someone has interaction or siting and it might open up other things.
Why does it do that?
Why is it all connected?
And I don't know if we'll ever really figure it out.
But the way that you said that psychic was talking, you know, I've also heard other people
in the community say similar things where, you know, you could be opened up to different
things in the realms.
But the good thing is it sounds like you have a way to kind of protect against it, which I think is important.
And maybe that'll be different things for different people depending on what your background is.
But yeah, Liz, this has been a really, really interesting conversation.
Thank you for, you know, walking us through what you've experienced in your life.
and I hope it was helpful for you to be able to put everything out there and allow us to listen to it.
But I just hope that things continue to go well for you and that you continue to have a handle of what is going on.
And I want to make sure as well that you were able to share everything that you wanted to share today.
Yeah.
I really appreciate the chat.
Fantastic.
If anything else does come up, feel free to, to,
reach out. You've got my contact info and you can always reach out at a later time. I'd love to
hear from you again.
Sure well. Thank you so much, Jeremiah. You take care.
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