Bigfoot Society - "They're coming out of the Parks, They're inside the Cities, They're Everywhere!"
Episode Date: September 10, 2023Josh from Episode 290 returns for another chat on the Bigfoot Society Podcast.In our last episode with Josh, he had discussed his experiences in the Hatcher’s Pass area of Alaska. This time, Josh re...turns with a cautionary tale about his experiences in the West Linn area of Oregon, which is south of Portland.Is Bigfoot starting to come too close to civilization or are the Portland suburbs starting to come too close to Bigfoot?I’m sure that many interesting discussions will happen no what what side you're on.Listen to what Josh has experienced and DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.Resources: WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzECall the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsocietyTo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!” If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)
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All right, Bigfoot Society, we've got the privilege of talking to Josh again. You may remember
Josh from episode 290 just a little bit ago, episode 290 of Bigfoot Society.
And we had talked about his encounters in the Hatcher's Pass area of Alaska.
And he also had some things happen in Oregon that he shared in that episode as well.
But Josh has reached out again and he's got some more interesting things to share.
How's it going today, Josh?
Oh, that's good.
It's good.
It's a little excitement going on over here, but pretty good.
I just got back from a hunting trip down in Klamath Falls.
Yeah, I just got a lot to talk about.
Oh, absolutely.
Before we do, so what were you successful on your hunt or anything happened out of that?
Oh, well, I had found my way into, it's real difficult because.
I'm not, I'm still new to the area, but um, finding my way into the actual parks, like,
because I got like just a little fence, you got to figure out where the trail is and I've never,
I don't really know that area very well. So it took me, most of my time, just figuring out where
I get in. And once I was in there, uh, I think I spooked one deer. And then I made a few grunt calls,
and I heard one behind me. And it was getting exciting. He had a bow.
I was ready and all of a sudden like get one more grunt and then I hear it like clacking through the brush and it jumps out and it's a young grizzly bear surprised to see me and I'm like looking at my bow not sure if I'm like a good shot with a bow to take him down so I just chucked it in my truck ran to the front he bolted into the bushes after the other deer that I guess he was stalking and I had to start to interrupt.
Um, you know, but other than that, it was just mostly just exploring the area, driving around a lot.
Wow. I mean, that's pretty awesome though, being able to see a young grizzly bear not expecting it. That's, that's, that's pretty solid, man.
Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's been, it's been different out here. Um, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of,
of the um the uh the uh the area i've noticed is like it's like a lot of like expansion a lot of um
like really nice neighborhoods you know like mcmatchons on like postage stem yards and and everything and so
but then there's like it's Oregon so there's still like big timber in the background and like
it it's just like like modern civilization is definitely has definitely creeped in
And like there's just like these weird pockets of nature like cutting through all of it.
And it's like one second you're in like this like business park.
The next second you're like in like raw like wilderness maybe for like two or three minutes.
And then you're like back and there's a shopping mall, you know, in a freeway.
And you just it's it's it's unique, I would say.
It's like in a unique spot.
And it's like transition to like modern.
civilization, I guess.
Similar to Alaska, but a little farther along.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But, yeah, when I moved here, you know, all the, all the Bigfoot stuff was like in the background of my mind.
Like, really, I was worried about, like, like, coyotes or something or something like that, you know, something small.
Like, if I'm going to the, to the park or something with my mind.
daughter our house actually backs up to like a forest like it used to be an old uh forested part of
like an old um orchard like a hundred year old orchard and so like the the trees on on the section
of woods are are just huge like old growth like uh dug fur so tall huge trees i mean it looks
beautiful but um it's a good place to hide
I recall one of the episodes where you were interviewing a guy that was talking about how he had run into them all the time.
And they were, like he says, like, they're not up in the mountains.
They're everywhere.
They're even behind Burger King.
And I thought about that.
And, like, I've noticed that, like, I would concur, like, yes, that they have.
are in fact behind burger king they're like all over the place um yeah it's been it's been crazy
because like essentially how i started noticing was um my neighbor had uh told me that uh there was like a
what they thought was like a like a junkie or like a drug addict or something real lanky guy
looked like he was from like Portland,
which isn't, you know,
out of the question.
And, you know,
it's like a perfectly reasonable, like,
thing to, like, look out for.
So he said, keep your head on us, well,
just like, you know, keep a lookout.
Some of the, one of our neighbors just saw him
and he was in the park and I'm, like, thinking,
I'm a dad, I got a kid.
It's like, okay, I'll just keep a lookout.
It's my little office window.
It faces, faces,
faces the parks I can
I look at it every day
so I make sure I'm just like I was always
keeping an eye out
when I was going to and from the park
one day I actually saw the guy
he looked weird
like real lanky real
like huge ribcage
real skinny
looked like he was wearing like a track suit
and like a hood
it was real weird and he was like
walking away and like
slinking through the brush.
Like,
I was like, oh,
okay,
it's a homeless person.
And there's a lady
that was walking in front of me.
She was like,
hey,
you can't be here.
You can't,
hey.
He stopped and looked at her.
And he had black eyes.
He looked.
Ashes skin was pale and ashy.
It was like,
gross.
And I was like,
ooh.
But,
like, at the same time,
I was like,
what was that
and I
I just like
made note of it but I didn't like
I was still like my brain was like so focused on
vagrants or something
and I saw that like
a couple months later
like in the spring time
before the
I had a actually I should
back up
when we moved in we explored
the forest we like looked all over the
place when we got here, the winter started.
And we were, like, looking through,
say Mary where that guy was slinking around,
we found, I found, like, a, uh, like a series of old, um,
some cedar trees.
And it looked like some people had been squatting in there or something.
And like, I just figured it was like the local kids or,
you know, finding a good spot to get high or whatever.
So I was like, oh, well, this place is neat looking.
We sat down inside just like, you know, looking around like, wow.
It's kind of roomy in here and didn't think anything of it.
And fast forward like a whole year.
After I saw the guy slinking through the woods and all that stuff, I see the same guy.
He's like lanking his way out of the brush.
And I got a clean, clean look at him.
So he's coming out and like, oh, it's that guy in the track suit.
And I look at him again real close.
And I see him.
It's like, yeah, his eyes are black.
His hands are like elongated and just ashy looking like longer than a normal person.
Really long.
And his forearms and his like his whole arms were like extra long.
And his legs were long, but he was super skinny.
muscles weren't really there.
And what he would,
what he did was like he pushed his,
his arms into his chest or his hands into his chest.
They're out like sort of flared him out.
And then like at first I'm like,
is that guy on a bicycle?
And like there was no,
I couldn't see a bike. All I saw was this,
like this weird posture.
And he like arches forward and he like,
he like rocks his head up.
And he just starts running back and forth.
and like moving fast.
And I was like, what?
That's not a bike.
What did I just see?
Because it was like he was a little bit outside what I had expected to be like what a squash was from my experience in Alaska.
It was just a little slightly different.
Like the facial structure was slightly different.
He had more like he looked more human like he could pass for human.
And that was the crazy part.
like a pass for human.
I also saw
later on, like a couple months later,
or not, maybe a month later,
I see this kid
up in a tree,
jamming a stick into the tree.
And he looked,
he looked human,
but,
but like,
I noticed he had some back hair,
and it was just,
like,
it was funny.
I looked up what,
uh,
he looked back at me i go hey you shouldn't be hey son you shouldn't be jamming on that tree
don't wreck the tree and he muttered something at me and some foreign language like i couldn't
understand him but he was like he was mad he was like he's like just looking back
when i stop and look at him i'm like this rich kid what is he doing and i was like
then look he's got the black guys too and there's a little glint
crazy glint in his eye
as I as were weird
and I wasn't
I was like because like
all of these things were happening so far apart
I wasn't really
piecing everything together right up front
then
fast forward to most recently
the
I had been like
on my computer
you know
just like watching YouTube
whatever
and I had
heard
like through my headphones
I heard something
plop on the roof
and I'm like thinking
hey
it's like
sounding a little bit bigger
than a raccoon
and I was like what
and I looked back
and whatever it did
whatever
was on the roof
like bolted
but I didn't
like I just looked
and it bolted
it happened again
like about two weeks later
I was waiting for it
so this time
I opened up
the window to see what it was and it was a little it was like a like a little four-foot
long like baby squash like it had hair all over its body it had like its mouth open its
eyeballs or like pitch black marbles look like an e-walk you know but like but his head was small
and it and it's just like he's up in a tree he's up in the cherry tree just above the roof
he had jumped.
That is like about an eight foot gap.
So this little guy jumped in, got an eight foot gap, was looking back at me.
I was like looking at him like, whoa, hey little guy.
Whoa.
And then all of a sudden I hear a stomp, stomp, stomp, stop, stop.
I'm like looking for the stomp.
And I realize there's like, Mama's looking at me.
She's got a scowl on her face.
She's not messing around.
And she gives another stomp, stop, stop.
and she turns around and like sits back down behind the fence.
I'm like, okay, good night.
And I just shut the, shut the window and like turned out the light and went to bed.
I didn't want to deal with that.
And now that the cat's out of the bag, I start seeing, seeing these guys hearing them in the middle of the day.
and I decided to just go over there and just look for tracks.
And I found one track, took a picture of it.
But you know how that is.
I didn't have any plaster around me, so I didn't get any cast.
I took a picture of it.
And then I followed the tracks into what I thought might be the trajectory of like the path they were taking through the rush.
And I sort of estimated kind of.
found more tracks, followed them, and then it sort of dead-ended by this berry bush.
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And it was near those trees that I had been sitting in before,
and it was all overgrown, and I'd never seen what a, like, a Sasquatch little nest
looked like.
So I didn't know what I was looking at.
So I was like, oh, I guess they were.
ran off so they went
through that way past the
cell tower
and I figured they were gone
but then I'm like I've scored
a big score because I just found a huge
berry patch so I go get my daughter
we get a bucket
and we're back there it's like Himalayan
Blackberry so they're huge and they're like
ripe and ready to go
I just sort of stop my way through make a little
path for her and we're
just like picking little berries
and then I hear a twigs
snap like maybe four or five feet away, like just to the left, that ominous silent twig snap.
And I look over and I realize I'm like, I hear like the soft pad and like the heavy crush is like the loam is being crushed under like a like a squatch is right there in the bushes.
And I look and I see cracks and I see a hair.
back, a black hairy back.
And then I hear another twig snap again as it ships its way right next to me.
And I look back at the spot.
The Squatch moved out of the way so I could see the light.
So I knew for sure they were in that little spot.
And I realized they had built up this little like shelter right there just like maybe like
12 feet off like the main trail where like families are going by like and I think what happened was
this this three or four soccer moms and like like 12 kids happened to come by right as we were like
right next to this thing I think we were about to get it I think we were about to get snatched up
but because those people had just been going by I was like all right we got to go and I got my
daughter to sort of back out and we went home.
And after that, like, I think they, it was more like I was aware and I knew what I was looking for.
And after a while, I started getting used to their movements and like what they sound like when they're moving from like left to right.
And they started watching me because I had like figured them out.
and I was like clearly more aware than like the regular soccer mom.
I don't think they'd run into a hunter before.
And so it was like like this weird tension.
And like they were just sort of like started to just watch me.
And like they had like a little bush that they next to my garden that they could watch me from.
And they would like observe me.
walk off. The kids would come up whenever we were playing in the back yard. I heard
like little juveniles like running up to the fence, like their little feet is like
crunching leaves, like just little steps. But like I was like picking them out and like at
first I didn't know what to think because all I knew was like they snatched up little kids
and all that stuff. So I was like a little freaked out. I was like, all right, all right.
We got to go inside now and like my daughter get upset because she wanted to play. But
I was like, you know, she saw, she saw that I was scared about something.
And, and she said, okay, we went inside.
And I didn't explain to her what was happening.
So she, she's, I think she, she sort of understood, but not really.
She's, she's, like, only three years old.
So she does, she does, she's not really, like, registering what's going off.
And, um, and that, and that sort of.
got me just like fascinated because I could I knew I could track like I keyed in on what they
sound like when they moved through the brush I could separate a mile from a squirrel or a deer
and like when they were like moving and so then suddenly one morning I step out onto the lawn
and I'm just here like a little like just little like just little whoop like just little whoops
like baby whoops, like real tiny baby whoops.
I was like, oh, wow.
And it's, it's, it was just like chasing the squirrel up in the trees right above my cat.
I was like, I think they eat the cats.
Gonna go stand next to my cat.
I got too close to the baby when I did that.
And then the mom got up, called to the grunted to the, to the baby.
baby went down to mom mom stormed off stomped off she knocked over to like three or four trees like
and i'm like just standing there just watching like nature in the raw just like stomping away
and i was like this is this might have consequences but at the same time it was like so awesome
uh to see it but i was like sort of awestruck because
she climbed immediately climbed up into the trees and like swung from like these big timber branches
like these thick like four inch branches she used them like a like a springboard so like to like swing from
like tree to tree and you just hear it like cracking like loud cracks that are like swinging on it and like
she gets down drops down and plops right behind my garden i'm like
I guess I'm not watering today.
But like, just the weight of her like plopping down and like hitting the brush and just seeing the fence shake.
I was like, oh my gosh.
And I realize like this is really tight quarters.
Like they're in here and it's tight quarters and I got to watch my step and I got to respect boundaries.
and they had been like from I had like been like watching them previously though like kind of
checking like right before sundown just to see what they were doing I'd walk past and right around
5.30 or so when the sun's starting to set you hear like you can hear like a look at an audible like yawn
as they wake up and they're like
you know just like getting up
getting ready for the night
and what they were doing was like
they'd be waking up
they'd like mill around get grubs or whatever in the immediate area
and when the sun finally like goes down
that's when uh like probably around like
nine and clock
they'll start to move out into the immediate area
or they might have an objective.
And that night with the baby,
they were going to go get acorns,
but it was all of them.
And I thought there was only maybe three or four of them in there,
but it was like 10.
10 I didn't know about.
They were spread out through the whole park,
and they all got up onto the roof.
I don't know if it was retaliation
or it was just business as usual,
but they, I could hear them plop, plop, plop.
plop, plop. And they were all just like scurrying around on top of my roof. And it is like terrifying.
And then one of them plops down. I could hear the hair like crinkle down as he sat down and started picking at one of the exhaust like chimneys to the furnace.
I could hear it like trying to mess with like one of the screws trying to get it open and here picking at it.
And it's like picking and picking. And then you just hear you just hear.
here, like, echoing through, like, the ducting, like, the screws coming up. And I'm like,
what's going on? Because I can just hear him, like, just, like, scurring around and they're
fighting over acorns. And, uh, I go to, like, the, like, the back window just to, because
I'm, I'm freaked out and I'm looking all over the place. And then I see, like, there's,
this 15 foot tall, like, like, I can't see him, but his eyes are, like, flashlights. Like, it's
crazy. Like,
Christmas lights, like beaming up, looking at him. Then he sees me and he's like looking at me.
He starts rocking left to right. And I'm looking at him. And I'm thinking, am I going to have to assert myself?
I've got to assert myself. So I just lock eyes with him. And he's just like looking. And then he gets real, he leans in to assert himself.
and then I
I just lean in too
and I just get my eyes
as big as I can get them
and I just look at them
and I just try to give him that
that FAFO look
you know
F around and find out
kind of look
and like
he like
can't handle the
direct eye contact for too long
and he breaks
he breaks contact
and he like slinks away
and then all of a sudden
everybody just like piling off of like the the roof and then it's sort of like a weird tension
uh sort of brewing in the background so i got these potentially angry Sasquatch living like
30 feet away from my house right and i'm not not sure if i'm like equipped like in terms of like
firepower and even if i was like it's
like a suburban neighborhood if i if if if things go like sideways and i start shooting i'm not
sure if i can shoot in a safe direction you know and it's it's like a really uneasy like like
i got to watch my step because i don't want to force force the situation and so more and more
once they they once they realized that like i could see them they started changing how
they moved because there was like a weird hostility.
They, um, I went out.
I just wanted to sort of like make amends because I felt like I was stepping out
everyone's toes.
I just threw like a bunch of Brazil nuts, like some nuts out into the woods.
Uh, earlier that day and, um, or one of the following nights.
And as the sun was setting, the kids were finding it.
And the, like, the dad was like grunted.
at them to get back, get back.
The word for
stay away or get away is
and like when they weren't listening
and they were getting real close to the fence,
he was like, he was like,
and he was just repeating it
over and over again and then they stopped and they backed away.
And I was like, just watching it's like,
okay, they have a language.
They definitely have a language because, like, everyone knew what that meant.
And then, um, the next day, we, I was like, uh, trying to hose down the lawn because it was dry because we were like mess with, we had, uh, we're fixing our sprinkler system.
And so like, the yard was dry. And I was just trying to, to save it. And, um, I'm out there spraying and the kids hear the water like plopping it out on the leaves near the fed.
and I can just hear like all of them just like making a bee line just to check it out.
And like the mom was like, bruh.
And they stop and she was like, ah, blah.
And they, they melted away.
They just like went to other parts of the woods.
And it was like definitely confirmed like stay back, stay away.
You know, that was interesting.
the um the um what i and at this point like i'm sort of going for going for broke now i'm like
so now i'm like a little like on edge and so like every night i'm like patrolling patrolling like the
upper level i'm like uh what i found is like if you
If you can, like, if you have an extra room or something,
turn on the lights on the extra room,
and you can watch them from, like, a dark room.
What it'll do is the light will pick up on the back of their eyes.
It's like, it's super bright, like super bright.
And you can actually pick up where they're at.
They're a lot easier to track because they really reflect the light.
It's like that's their Achilles heel is like they have really reflective eyes.
I'm assuming they can see really well in the dark.
Like they've adapted to that.
But the eyes are like, like, I don't know if you remember like as a kid, like if you ever looked into the barrel of like the Nintendo gun for duck hunt.
Absolutely, yes.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I don't recommend people do that.
That's not a recommendation, but I do know what you're talking about.
It just has like that, that funny, like gray, like, really, like deep, reflective lens.
That's what their eyes look like.
It just like it looks like you can tell that things are magnified.
So I'm thinking they have like incredible, really sharp distant vision at night.
I would on occasion what I've seen like from them was like when I started trying to do like
I got some plaster I was going to try to get some tracks one night they came back from I think
they got a deer or something or they got a bunch of like salmon or something but they
I could hear them coming from quite a ways away normally they steps off but they
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Like, they were moving kind of slow,
and they walked past my window in a column,
and, like, you could just hear them just, like, just move in a column.
And I was expecting to find, like, tracks.
One guy, one of them jumped off of my roof and down,
So they were, they had one guy just like, just in case I popped out, like, they're going to like pounce me or something.
But I wasn't going to stick my head out anymore.
I was going to.
I knew I was cruising for a bruising.
And I just had to keep my nose down.
But like at the same time, I'm like, I got it.
I got to keep an eye out, right?
So I'm listening to them like just like, like just pound through.
And I had realized.
So yeah, there was like 10 or 12 of them and about three of them were really big and the rest were just juveniles, right?
So they're they got a big family.
I got one one big one big one and like the mom and the pop are just monsters.
Like I would I would estimate like it is probably like a the mom's probably 13 and the dad is.
definitely a 15-footer. Like, just
huge.
I went out there to just check for the tracks.
I was going to get a cast, and
there was one where the guy jumped off the roof. But after
that, they had raked the ground. Like, there was no
tracks. They had raked the ground behind them as they went into the
park. And I was just, like, flabbergasted by, like,
that's incredibly intelligent
like these aren't animals
at that point
and um
but I made one terrible
cast and some wood chips
where the guy landed
I mean it gave me a
a good size
it was about like a 15 inch
like print
it wasn't like huge but it was
one of like the mid-level
juveniles
but um
after that all I did was like every night
just do
the same routine. You turn on a light and we're far into the house, patrol into it and look
until you see like a twinkle or something. And what I had once they had figured out that I could see
them, I saw one night while I was like putting the kid to bed. She's going bonkers just running all
over the house. And I caught the eye shine of some of them. And I saw them coming out not all at once,
but they're like one, two, three, like, like, like, uh, just sort of really like delayed, like, um,
like you do in the military. It's like you don't just let it go at the same time. You just go,
go, go, go, go, like real, like, paste. And like, hoping not to catch my gaze. But of course,
I'm hyper aware. And I'm seeing this and I'm pretending not to see it.
just so I could observe it.
And they did that.
And after they figured out that I saw them, they stopped coming out that way.
So there's like a trail that goes next to my house next to my office window.
And so I can see everyone that comes in and out pretty well.
And this time they've stopped coming out of that trail.
And they seem to be coming out the side trails.
And one day after that,
that I noticed
how high they get up in the trees.
And most recently,
what I've observed is
that
they
the dad will get up
into one of the pine trees.
I've gotten, I figured out,
it took me a second because I had to start taking
photos so I could zoom in and see what I'm looking at.
The dad gets up in the tree in the neighborhood.
He looks around for,
for dinner and then the signals to the rest of them go that way and they
they snack on a cat or they get fruit or whatever they're doing and um they uh they've been um they've
stopped going for the acorns or they'll wait till I fall asleep to go after the acorns and last
night the mother
I got the gaze of the
mother in her gigantic head
she's huge she's like
it's real boxy like just
huge it's a big
lady
through my
my bathroom window my bathroom window
is like really high
it's this tiny window
she's looking in
making sure I'm not coming because I think she's trying
to get the baby up to get some of the acorns
and I don't know if she's like hanging on the tree
is dug for a tree to like sort of reach across
but it's like she's big enough to sort of do it
so I think she tried to get the baby out she couldn't get it that way
I saw her eyes and then she tried to look away to hide
to hide her eye flash and I just sort of like
laid down just to listen
just to see what they do.
Because when I lay down, they start to move
because they think I'm asleep or something.
I just wait.
And then like,
she got up on the roof.
And I just
saw that,
I just felt like the corner of the house
we, like, sort of like
bowed a little bit because
I don't think she, she knows she can't just
go get up on the roof.
She's a little big now.
But,
um,
I heard, I just felt it like gently as possible, like,
try to sit down on the side of my roof.
And I could hear the little one just like,
hit or patter towards the acorn tree.
And like he's like up there, you know,
he brings branches back with like loaders of the acorns.
And I found like little like fang marks.
I can tell which ones are theirs or which ones are squirrels
because some of the fang marks in the acorn will have like this
pus. It'll start running
like this digestive enzyme
or something and their saliva.
It'll start oozing out of the acorns.
Like the squirrels, it was like it was nibbled.
But like when the squatches
are chewing on it, it
has like this white
like mucus
or something like oozing out
of the acorn.
What I've noticed in terms of like
timing patterns, they seem to go
around like 10 o'clock they're out in about and about two in the morning it's like the witching hour
they're they're getting they're either they're hunting or they're they're finishing up eating
something or they're like sort of around it's like the big round up it might start out like
small things they're just like looking and scouting around but like about two in the
morning is usually when they're on to something and they're the most active and they're like
run it around. They think nobody's awake anymore. And so they're really just going for it. They're
going nuts in the neighborhood and like all around. I could just hear them just run back and forth.
They're like ripping around and like right around 345 is when they sort of try to pack it in.
And that's when they sort of try to grab what you can on the way back into the park.
And I remember you had mentioned like right around 345.
somebody was messing with your zipper on your tent, right?
Absolutely.
I'm thinking, what I'm thinking is, like, that might have been a juvenile, like,
Sasquatch, just, like, exploring, just checking it out.
Like, maybe mom was right next to you guys, but, like, they're probably on their way home
from, like, you know, hunting or whatever they were doing.
But that's what I've noticed is, like, they keep the same pattern.
they'll um right around 10 o'clock they're they're out and about um they're like looking around
some people they're still jogging around and like the mom i've seen her down from my bath actually
my bathroom window had a good vantage point my neighbor's driveway and the baby seemed to be really
fascinated with um the um one of those like you know how the yards have those little like down
lights that are like the little lamps like he was really fascinated with it so i'd see him like messing
with it and the mom sort of sitting next to him while he explores and then like a guy with like a skinny
guy with a flashlight would just go walk like not even a foot and a half away from them both like
just like trying to get home you know he's looking like it was just amazed me like how one how quiet they can be
how close you can be to them without like even knowing they're there and like it makes you wonder like
how much how much you're like I wonder if there is a Sasquatch out there and then like you
while you're wondering that you're walking past a Sasquatch you know there's a
I got a couple photos of um the eye shine of like what I've noticed is like when
the mother, when she's got a young, she separates her from the main group, and she'll, like, keep the younger, the youngest ones, kind of away from the bigger ones, I'm guessing because they get aggressive or something, but she'll stay separate.
And when, whenever it goes out, the young youngsters will stick to, like, her little, like, tree, and they'll be up in her tree while, while they're,
out like everyone else is out hunting and they were like waiting for food but they're they're up in
the tree and what they're doing is they're just like scanning around just looking around that's all
they're doing is just looking around looking for mom looking for danger but they're like you just
see their little eyes like like uh just like really bright little twinkly eyes as they like
pan around and like the rims of like the iris
are the brightest, like I'm guessing because like the light reflects back and it's the brightest around like the edge.
You can catch the edge.
You can tell where they're looking because the edge is like the brightest.
So you get this is a bright little ring inside the eyes.
And they're looking down.
And absolutely every time I go to peak and see if they're there, all eyes, all of the eyes are like twinkly little eyes, like wherever they are in the forest,
like just like laser focused right on me like they all like make eye contact and like it's incredible
like how quickly they zip like they're on me and then like uh it's it's like i am trying to like
you know keep a lookout but i'm also trying not to upset the apple cart too much more you know
But last night
It was a little crazy because
They had decided to stick close to the neighborhood
Normally they don't touch anything
Or like mess around in this
On our block
They'll go out
And they'll leave like a rampate
Like a path of destruction
About like two blocks out
But like right here
It's like everything's untouched
They don't touch my garden
they don't touch the berries they don't touch anything the squirrels are like running around like
they're not touching anything um they just like keep a really low profile they don't they don't
make any loud like like grunts or or um they don't call they're just really silent they're like
uh really well i guess you call it noise discipline they got really good noise discipline but they're
they're very stealthy about it.
And,
but I've seen a lot of,
um,
like thinking back, um,
at my,
uh,
preschool,
they,
the ladies there had told me that there was,
um,
uh,
a skinny guy,
like breaking into the,
one of the sheds at the edge of the parking lot,
closer to the,
like,
the forest edge.
And they called the cops.
The cops got to him, told him to freeze, and, like, he ran.
And the cop said he was like a guy in a track suit with sunglasses.
He ran and jumped and leaped up onto the roof.
And he had moved faster than anybody he'd ever seen before.
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And not a single person was like made the connection.
Like was that a guy?
You know, was that Bigfoot?
You know, because or maybe they did and they just weren't allowed to like just like report that.
But it's real funny.
Like if you, if you say in your neighborhood,
If you notice, like, trails in between places, like, say, like, in an urban area, you'll see, like, a trail looks like a game trail or something's been, like, work in it.
And, like, in California, I just assume it was just homeless people, but I think I've seen it everywhere now.
But, like, Alaska, you could say it's a bear or a moose or something like that.
and then like you when thinking anything of it but like out here we don't have we don't have bears in the city we don't have moose out here
there's like there's like a little tiny deer like going through like a little they're not very heavy maybe 80 pounds right
and um you can you can see like there's like clearly something heavy has been using like little little pockets you'll see
all the bushes, the brambles, will be sort of all, like, hollowed out, and there'll be, like,
a little path going in and out, and they're, like, oh, they're, like, peppered across, like, the area.
Like, you'll see them, like, zigzagging, darting, like, back and forth.
There's some, like, old farmland that they had been converted to, like, a park.
So people will go there to walk, and so they have a bunch of, like, you know, nice fencing and stuff,
and I started noticing
like somebody was knocking down the fencing
and seeing that
there was
somebody had also knocked down steel fencing
at one of the vineyards here
and like it was like clearly a path
just going down through
and down at the bottom of the hill
kind of is where my daughter's preschool is
and
like you just
down at the bottom
somebody had like
parked their
camper van
and it was like
normally nobody
nobody parks that stuff
they don't they don't like
seeing like
abandoned vehicles and stuff
but like
it was down at the bottom
kind of in the same sort of path
is where they
this other stuff had been happening
I see it there for a couple of days
and all of a sudden, I drive past it, it looked like it exploded.
Like, the top had been ripped off, like, all the, like, the innards and everything was, like, shredded.
There was, like, shards of stuff.
Like, somebody had driven, like, under an overpass or something.
Like, it just blew, just completely exploded.
But it was parked there.
Like, nobody had been touching it.
So, in my mind, I'm thinking that the Squatch had just, like, ripped it apart, just, like, looking for, like, scavenging stuff and didn't know what they were doing.
but like something like ripped it apart.
Like it's the only,
the only thing is only reasonable explanation.
So I don't think high school kids could do it.
That kind of destruction.
It just had to be like this asquatch.
But the,
I've been driving around some of the neighboring towns
and there have been, like,
you do see like these trails.
and like these things that cut through the fences and then you'll see like these like tore up
trees and like bushes and it just looks super squatchy in there and like look over and it's like oh
it's behind the it's behind the best buy oh great and like once i'm aware of it like it was everywhere
like it was everywhere these things are everywhere and um i'm thinking they've been here
the whole time and we're just like not we never noticed because they're so good at
at hiding because they're ambush predators, right?
I recently went out to a U-Pick orchard with my wife and daughter on like a weekend before last.
And we had parked the car and like we picked apples, you know, everything looks nice, everything's clean cut, real cap.
and then on our way back
to the car
we don't pay for our apples
or
open up the back of my
my wife's vehicle and we're just like
lug up apples
daughter has to go to the bathroom
blah bitty blah and I get
a little time to just sort of look at my surroundings
and I realize like
some of the apple trees didn't look very
well kept. They looked real jagged
and
like bushy and weird and like
just like creepy looking and like I'd seen like a spot where they had mowed the grass but they
didn't want to go too deep into it and I was like this is looking squatchy uh and like luckily the
couple had let me borrow with one of their buckets so I had to go return the bucket and I go
I just we were talking about apples and then I said I love these apples but I got to keep
the Sasquatch off of them just as a joke just to
to sort of drop a hint that I know what's going on.
And then like she just rolls her eyes.
She's like, oh my gosh, don't even get me started.
And apparently, according to this lady who's like a local,
she says like the people in the know are saying that these guys are in all the parks.
They're in like a lot of the urban areas now.
They're not like staying to the woods.
They're like actually coming into the cities.
and they're sort of like becoming a nuisance.
But you don't hear about it because nobody talks about it because it's like the elephant in the room.
It's like if you bring it up with a lot of these people, it's like nobody wants to believe you or they get real, you know, you know, they get.
And it's been like really eye-opening.
I don't know.
Just like the idea of like you go out on this grand adventure, you get out into the mountains,
you would expect to see, like, something like that.
If you see a Sasquatchel, like, wow, that was incredible.
But, like, you come home, it's like, I'm probably in cool with camping for a while.
I'm just going to relax here.
And now it's like, you know, they're here too.
They're, like, absolutely everywhere.
And I'm just trying to figure out in the wintertime, they weren't in the forest.
They weren't in there at all.
And I'm trying to figure out where they might go.
I've just by chance of like, just like, you know, looking into the area,
there are like a series of caves nearby, like within like the Westland area.
And like, but they won't say where they are because they don't want people like trash in them.
So it's like a local secret.
But I'm kind of wondering if they don't.
just like hunker down in the caves for the winter and then just sort of come back in the
spring like like um they're still like hunting and doing their stuff but they're like staying warm
warmer in out of the cold um but i don't know um like just like after would you say like if you
have you noticed anything in your area in terms of like trails or like weird stuff that's out
place like bushes and stuff and pour up trees so what you say out there josh i'll say that
our areas are completely different i live in um small just say small town iowa um there's not
not much where i'm at but i i do have some
questions for you though
yeah for sure
this is extremely
interesting can you
remind us I know you had mentioned
it in the previous episode you were on
the general area
where this is
taking place and you know
keep it as vague as you need to
for
anything you can provide for context
oh okay
I'm in a town called
Westland. It's a
in a
Clackamas County. It's just
south of Portland
about like half an hour
outside of like 25 minutes
outside of Portland.
It's like
on the other side of the Willamette
River.
It's sort of
one side
is like Oregon City
and Candy
another side is Tiger
and Sherwood.
and there's all little towns that are like sort of like suburbs of Portland essentially
but we're on like a like the opposite side of the river
like for the rest of it so we don't you don't get like a lot of crime on this side of
the river it's like it just most of the stuff happens on on the opposite side but
yeah so just south of Portland I'm like
right on the backside of
Westland so I'm like
just
a kitty corner
to a bunch of ranches and farm
farmland and there's like a few vineyards
it's like
it's surrounded on all sides
by river so there's like the Tuolitan
River meets the
Willamette River
and on the north side is a
place called Lake Oswego
and that is
essentially
we're like on a giant hill
and the down
probably the
northeast corner of the hill
is where you get into Lake Oswego
and it's pretty much like a weird
little like peninsula of like
it's either it's river or at the lake front
but it's like surrounded by water
and just
to the east
is Mount Hood
so we're kind of in the foothills of Mount Hood
to the west
is
Astoria
and like the Oregon coast
and like
all that stuff out there
like Tillamook
It's
Yeah so it's like
I would say like
Western Oregon
It's more of a rainforesty side
But just south of Portland
It's very interesting
When you look at it on a map
because you can definitely see how it is that southern part of the whole Portland urban sprawl,
but the green is there.
And it's definitely like you could see that, you know, it's starting as it grows more and more,
this Portland suburb area, it's slowly taking over more and more of the woods, I would guess.
And you could see how stuff like this could definitely.
definitely happen with
with different types
of
of animals
losing their habitat for sure
yeah
totally
um
yeah it's just so funny
look it's a little ominous too
though like um
I if I if I
when it gets about the witching hour
and I start looking at windows
sometimes I'm looking now I'm just looking
for straight eye shine I didn't even bother
trying to look at for shapes. I'm just looking for the shine. And I got one peeking at me
through the passenger window of the opposite side of the car. I was like, what is that bright light?
It was like, so the flashlight. And I realized it was just one eye. He's just peeking through a tinted
window, but I could still see the flash. It was so bright. But like just the fact that they
they slink around like that.
Like, they're just very, like, elusive.
And I've had it, like, come up, like, when I was in my garden,
this was, like, last week, in my garden,
a little after the whole, like, upsetting mama
and, like, the whole eye contact thing.
The dad, like, came up to the fence line.
And he just went in, like, I could hear him just go, and I look, and then, like, I hear him move.
And, like, he's already, like, behind, like, a timber tree, like, 10 feet back.
And he's peeking at, he's looking at me now, like, broad daylight.
And it was, you know, he's got big, beady, like, big, round black eyes, like, like an Ewak.
Right, but like a big gorilla head, human nose, like a pudgy nose, like a pretty thick jawline, like big thick gorilla lips, but like real flat face.
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Like the hair, you know, goes up to a point to the nose,
but like it all flares out right around like the chin line.
I sent you like pictures of like drawings as like the best I could do.
from like a try to remember from like 20, 30 years ago.
And they're pretty close, but like, not as, like, um,
not as spot on as I would like, but, um, pretty close.
The, uh, the nose on them is like, um,
they have a really strong, like, bridge, like, from, like, the forehead down to, like,
where it meets, like, the face, like, the, where that dips in by the eyes.
It's real thick, like straight down.
But then it sort of flattens up, and then it comes back out like a triangle,
like it's off, like triangular shape, but it's just pointing down.
And like it's sort of like the shadow of it makes like a nice chevron.
But yeah, what's it?
I know there's that guy that's controversial.
It was like getting all these head shots of like those that everybody's like,
I don't know, that looks fake.
Todd standing.
that's it
it's it it was it was
he did a
it was essentially pretty close
not as hairy but like the one where they
hit that the young one with the big round eyes
it was just like that it was just like that
really and yeah I was I was a little surprised by that
because like when I saw it I thought it was like fake
I like nah
I think he's just because he's only getting the headshot
like like where's it?
rest of the body. Either he knows what they look like
and he just had like them
made up
or or they're real
because like the curtains
light geist for like Bigfoot
is like this big
sweeping hair like
hunk with like like
you know chilling with Sasquatch
or like Teen Wolf
you know like
Harry and the Henderson's
like not
not not
not what it
I don't know.
It's just like
if I was going to make it up,
I would make it look like that
because that's what everybody knows.
You know,
that's how they identify it, you know.
Exactly.
And I just,
I just feel like,
look, if it's fake,
he fooled me.
I think it's real.
I think what he's got is real
because it's just,
it's just too,
too a little out of the ordinary
because, like,
too specific to fake,
you know?
and those features are like dead on.
So I'm thinking that's,
he caught him in the wintertime,
they got more hair on their face or something.
Maybe they don't got,
maybe they shed it in the summer.
Who knows?
Like, I don't, I don't even know what their
life cycle is beyond just like
how they hunt right now
and it's summertime.
It's interesting to think about.
Like,
if you've ever seen, like,
some of those those
videos or
those TikToks where they're like
people who are like
saying oh a ghost is coming to visit
a girl and like you see two
twinkling eyes and it's
and she's like it's back again
and like it starts
knocking on the glass and she
films it and it's a
Sasquatch tap it on the glass
getting her to come outside
and
you know they're saying
like a polter guy
or something and like you just go through YouTube and you can find like a lot of stuff where they're just
saying like the guy who's going fishing and like all of a sudden he hears a roar and he's like what's
that I don't know and there's like tons of bigfoot footage the people don't know is big foot footage
because they're not looking out for that because it's like it's not like oh that was something
weird because they're not thinking about that stuff but it's it's it's it's
interesting to think that, like, you could probably go back through your, your library and just, like, see a video where it was something weird.
You listen to it one more time. He's like, oh, oh, that is a squash. Oh, wild. And, like, it's just like, it's a situation, and you can sort of, like, glean a lot of, like, information just off of what was happening in the scene. And, like, it's a lot easier to pick it out because at that point, they're not trying.
to trick you because they're, you know, it's like
they're trying to do like a fishing video or something and like
a squatch screams at them. And they're like, I don't know what that is,
but they don't ever claim it's a Sasquatch.
And like you can sort of cherry pick that stuff.
It's like, but it is hard to sort of like,
you really got to be on your toes when it's like when you're looking at
this stuff because there's so many people they're just trying to
trying to fake it.
And I don't know.
It just seems like
it just seems like you couldn't
you couldn't easily just as easily
put less efforted and go find
an actual Sasquatch and like get the
footage
with like some trail cams or something
and like call it a day.
But like they go through a lot of effort
like thousands of dollars for a suit
and it doesn't look right.
And then they run to go
go hike in the woods and run around a little bit.
and like, like, you could have just walk behind the Best Buy.
Just snag the photo.
Have you ever considered putting up trail cams around your house
or having, like, an audio recorder going at night?
I thought about the audio recorder, but, like, I got one trail cam,
and whenever I put it out,
activity ceases on that side of the house.
Right.
And I'll see stuff happening on the other side
and I move the camera over there.
And then nothing.
It'll be nothing.
And I've just been doing this dance
and I just couldn't figure it out.
And what I think is going on is like
they'll be up in there.
There'll be a scout up in the tree just watching me.
dedicated to watch
what I'm doing
because I'm
Mr. Snoop I'm
snooping around
too much
and they can get
way up into the
canopy where I can't
really see them
and they'll just look
down comfortably
you know
scout the area
and
sort of get a sense
of like what I'm up to
and then they
they know just to go around
or avoid it
or or
it might not even be
that complicated
it might be that
Like, they just can see, like, the infrared.
And, like, the cameras are probably putting off, like, a crazy light.
They're like, what is that?
Okay, get away from that thing.
I thought about going up on the roof and, like, strapping it to the chimney,
just under the oak tree.
But I'm, like, a little, like, I'm not sure if they're watching me when I do it.
and like I said
as soon as I move or mess with something
they sort of change their behavior
and like sort of avoid that thing
for a little while
but if I was going to do
like cams I need to do like
10 of them and just like put them out
and I think the audio recorder
probably be easier because it's like
real small and you can just like ditch it by the fence
and just see what happens.
Oh, yeah, you can set up to record
for certain hours of the day.
It doesn't have to be going all the time.
Have you, remind me,
have you talked directly to your neighbors
to see if they have seen similar things
to like what you're experiencing?
Um,
I,
I don't think it's,
it's one of those,
it's like,
um,
keeping up with the Jones.
It's a,
it's a,
like a middle class,
like other middle class neighborhood
and everybody's really
in their lane and nobody
nobody talks like that
like I have to get out to the country
where people are a little more relaxed
they'll shoot
they'll shoot the breeze with me about it
but like
like the people that
own the orchard they can like once you
drop it. It's got to be
usually it's got to be really blue-collar people
I found that like I went
into Cabela is when I bought the
game cam. I just
like the girl at the register, I go, hey, do you guys have any, like, fleaer technology or any sort of, like, heat sensing, like, scopes or anything like that?
I got a Sasquatch problem at my place, and I'm trying to sort of just get a beat on what they're doing.
And, like, she wrote her, it's like, oh, my gosh, tell me about it.
And, like, so I think a lot of people know, I don't, but I don't know what my neighbors, my direct neighbors know.
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And they also seem really just like they keep to themselves and like I'm a little more boisterous and outgoing.
So it's just I don't want to intimidate them too much.
So I try to stay in my lane around here.
But like when I'm out and about, I'll like ask people.
It's a very interesting situation you have going on for sure.
And be interesting to see how it develops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you feel that you're safe in the area that you're at?
Or do you guys kind of feel like, you know, a little bit like you're under surveillance?
I feel like I'm under surveillance.
My wife is just so busy with her work that, like, it's like, you know, trying to,
even though I've shown her photos of stuff, like with, like, the,
eyes and stuff. She'll try to explain it away. She doesn't want to, she really doesn't want to hear it. She doesn't get a time.
And she doesn't want me telling her daughter about this stuff and like having her go to school and like scared.
Just like she doesn't want her being scared about it. But me personally, I'm, I'm a little, like, I know they're watching me. And I know it's like, bro.
I'm on thin ice. I'm on thin ice over here.
Like trying to snoop around so much.
I've ruffled some feathers, and I don't feel as comfortable.
I haven't been through to the park anymore.
I just stopped going.
I just, like, they don't, like, sort of come in my yard, and they keep a wide berth.
And I think if I start going into the park or anything like that, it's like all bets are off.
So I've just sort of been sort of like a weird little island.
But yeah, I don't.
I know that, like, in terms of like protecting myself, I'm a crack shot.
I mean, I can lay out some rounds, but at the same time, I'm like, I don't know.
I just, I feel there is some, there is some tension.
Like, I don't, I don't feel safe, honestly.
And, and it seems like the neighbors in the area are just blissfully unaware of what's going on.
Because when I had upset, originally upset the mom and she had stormed off,
was crashing through the trees and, like, all this stuff.
There was, like, five or six girls, like, coming up the trail, laughing.
about whatever one other person said, just like blissfully unaware of the danger they were directly.
and and like
thankfully like
the mom just like picked a spot and plop down
and like
it sort of ended there
but like there's there's like
moms and kids and dogs and nobody's
nobody's noticing this stuff
and it's like me
me alone and like
a sprinkling of people that already know about it
you know but for the most part
most people are just they don't
it's not registering
and like that makes me feel unsafe too
because if, you know, like, I've heard stories of them, like, like, snatching up kids through the window and, like, you know, not, um, you know, like, I could be, I could go around the corner or something or I'll be in the garden or something.
And I just, like, they could easily just, like, reach out and, like, just end me, like, snap my neck, rip my head off.
and it's like an uneasy feeling.
My fences are very strong.
It's like a rotten old fence.
And it's just really unsettling just to sort of know that like I'm on that
knife's edge and I really just got to watch my step.
So like in terms of investigations and stuff, I'm going to keep,
I'm just going to keep my nose down for a little bit.
But what I would like to do, like in an ideal world,
where I had, where money was no object.
I would, I would do like a, like, Fleer, like cameras on, on drones and just do a flyby.
And then, like, like, 10 trail cams and just catch something.
Because, like, I can hear where they're going.
I know what they're, where they're kind of, like, bopping around.
And, like, if I could get in there, put a bunch of trails, little cams around, get the, get the, get
a flare going to see the body heat, see where they're at.
Yeah, you can get all sorts of great evidence, but
it's real tense.
It's tight quarters.
It's too tight.
And it's weird.
Like, if I didn't live in the area, if I was just like a passerby,
like they didn't recognize if I just look like a regular person, like walking the dog,
you could plop some, you could plop some, like, quick,
Little, like, cameras down.
No big deal.
But they're on me.
They're on me.
Like, like, a gang, like, dragnet.
Like, I got a, I got to, I've really got to watch what I do.
I've tried to reach out to, um, um, Cliff at the, at the, the, the, the bigfoot,
museum.
I'd say like ask for some advice
all he's always just get some
it looks a great opportunity to get some casts
and I was like so
it's it's been a pretty
pretty tense like so yeah I don't
I don't feel safe
but I feel like they're
hardwired to hide
and so they're not going to just
come out and like get me but if I
give them the opportunity
they'll probably like snatch me right up
so I stay out of the woods
I stay just kind of
away from my fence lying and I kind of got my little bubble I stay in.
It's a very interesting story, Josh.
And as I said before,
it'd be interesting to see how it develops.
But if there are listeners in the same area of West Lynn,
the area just south of Portland,
and you're noticing things like this,
please reach out as well.
Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.
Sounds like there could be something interesting starting to happen in the south area of Portland.
But I guess I could get away.
I mean the park.
If you want the actual park, it is Merrillhurst Heights Park.
It's right at the top of the hill.
Interesting.
Yeah, I feel like I think a random person can get through.
Maybe distract some cameras and just like do.
a pass-through. You might catch something.
But they're definitely
still in there. I can see
every night I'm seeing
the kids like pulling around or
jamming on trees.
Actually last night or
three nights ago I actually did see like
that one kid with the stick
he was like 20 feet
up in the tree.
I could see a silhouette and they looked over and I could see the eye shine.
I knew for sure.
So there's like, I think they have, like, there might be like an issue where like they don't produce as much body hair right off the bat.
But then they start, maybe they sort of like as puberty hits, they really just put it on.
Because I think I've seen that kid like run into the park and steal sandwiches from the birthday parties.
because like if you look at like um
like any sort of like
uh primate species
if you look at the babies
their their hair line is just like a human
it's just like just like just little hair on top
maybe no hair on the body and they look like a little
like a little kid with like a big melon head
and like I've seen these kids like come through
run up grab grab a couple sandwiches
or something or some treats from like the tray
like some of the birthday parties and the
covering and like run back into the
bushes. I like initially
when I saw that I never
put two and two together. I was like
ah, like this seems like
a great place to live, you know, like the little
redneck kids get into trouble.
And
oh, I'm getting, I'm seeing
to flash. It might be
flashlights. Yeah, it looks
like it's flashlights. That's good.
Okay.
Pretty well.
Pretty wild stuff, man.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, sorry.
So it's just like, it's a, like, there's like a thousand stories.
I'm just off the top of my head, like a bunch of little things.
Absolutely.
Yeah, if you're in the area, Merrillhurst Heights Park, just give it a pass through or just go check it out.
Just look around.
I don't go too far off the trail because there's a day walker, day watcher.
So like left like over by like the cell tower, they'll have their little like hut or their nest.
And on opposite side of the trail, like usually the male will be like watching people from like the behind the trees.
And you can hear them like you'll hear like a twig snap or something.
So it's best just to like sort of try to take in what you can like you're pretending to walk through and then just like like, like, like, like,
GoPro or something and just
just trying to catch it on the fly.
Great advice for people to take if they do decide
to take a hike in that area.
But Josh, I appreciate
you coming back on to
provide an update for what you're experiencing
down there south of Portland.
Yeah. Yeah, I just
appreciate you. Let me talk about it because
like there's, I don't have many
outlets for this stuff. So it's a little
off-putting, a little stress.
restful and it's good to get it off my chest.
Absolutely.
Well, you have a great night, Josh.
Hopefully you get some rest tonight.
Yeah.
All right.
You too.
Thank you.
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