Bigfoot Society - "They're coming out of the Parks, They're inside the Cities, They're Everywhere!"

Episode Date: September 10, 2023

Josh from Episode 290 returns for another chat on the Bigfoot Society Podcast.In our last episode with Josh, he had discussed his experiences in the Hatcher’s Pass area of Alaska. This time, Josh re...turns with a cautionary tale about his experiences in the West Linn area of Oregon, which is south of Portland.Is Bigfoot starting to come too close to civilization or are the Portland suburbs starting to come too close to Bigfoot?I’m sure that many interesting discussions will happen no what what side you're on.Listen to what Josh has experienced and DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.Resources: WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzECall the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsocietyTo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!” If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)

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Starting point is 00:02:49 And he also had some things happen in Oregon that he shared in that episode as well. But Josh has reached out again and he's got some more interesting things to share. How's it going today, Josh? Oh, that's good. It's good. It's a little excitement going on over here, but pretty good. I just got back from a hunting trip down in Klamath Falls. Yeah, I just got a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Oh, absolutely. Before we do, so what were you successful on your hunt or anything happened out of that? Oh, well, I had found my way into, it's real difficult because. I'm not, I'm still new to the area, but um, finding my way into the actual parks, like, because I got like just a little fence, you got to figure out where the trail is and I've never, I don't really know that area very well. So it took me, most of my time, just figuring out where I get in. And once I was in there, uh, I think I spooked one deer. And then I made a few grunt calls, and I heard one behind me. And it was getting exciting. He had a bow.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I was ready and all of a sudden like get one more grunt and then I hear it like clacking through the brush and it jumps out and it's a young grizzly bear surprised to see me and I'm like looking at my bow not sure if I'm like a good shot with a bow to take him down so I just chucked it in my truck ran to the front he bolted into the bushes after the other deer that I guess he was stalking and I had to start to interrupt. Um, you know, but other than that, it was just mostly just exploring the area, driving around a lot. Wow. I mean, that's pretty awesome though, being able to see a young grizzly bear not expecting it. That's, that's, that's pretty solid, man. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's been, it's been different out here. Um, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, of the um the uh the uh the area i've noticed is like it's like a lot of like expansion a lot of um like really nice neighborhoods you know like mcmatchons on like postage stem yards and and everything and so but then there's like it's Oregon so there's still like big timber in the background and like it it's just like like modern civilization is definitely has definitely creeped in
Starting point is 00:05:36 And like there's just like these weird pockets of nature like cutting through all of it. And it's like one second you're in like this like business park. The next second you're like in like raw like wilderness maybe for like two or three minutes. And then you're like back and there's a shopping mall, you know, in a freeway. And you just it's it's it's unique, I would say. It's like in a unique spot. And it's like transition to like modern. civilization, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Similar to Alaska, but a little farther along. Exactly. Yeah. But, yeah, when I moved here, you know, all the, all the Bigfoot stuff was like in the background of my mind. Like, really, I was worried about, like, like, coyotes or something or something like that, you know, something small. Like, if I'm going to the, to the park or something with my mind. daughter our house actually backs up to like a forest like it used to be an old uh forested part of like an old um orchard like a hundred year old orchard and so like the the trees on on the section
Starting point is 00:06:54 of woods are are just huge like old growth like uh dug fur so tall huge trees i mean it looks beautiful but um it's a good place to hide I recall one of the episodes where you were interviewing a guy that was talking about how he had run into them all the time. And they were, like he says, like, they're not up in the mountains. They're everywhere. They're even behind Burger King. And I thought about that. And, like, I've noticed that, like, I would concur, like, yes, that they have.
Starting point is 00:07:37 are in fact behind burger king they're like all over the place um yeah it's been it's been crazy because like essentially how i started noticing was um my neighbor had uh told me that uh there was like a what they thought was like a like a junkie or like a drug addict or something real lanky guy looked like he was from like Portland, which isn't, you know, out of the question. And, you know, it's like a perfectly reasonable, like,
Starting point is 00:08:14 thing to, like, look out for. So he said, keep your head on us, well, just like, you know, keep a lookout. Some of the, one of our neighbors just saw him and he was in the park and I'm, like, thinking, I'm a dad, I got a kid. It's like, okay, I'll just keep a lookout. It's my little office window.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It faces, faces, faces the parks I can I look at it every day so I make sure I'm just like I was always keeping an eye out when I was going to and from the park one day I actually saw the guy he looked weird
Starting point is 00:08:48 like real lanky real like huge ribcage real skinny looked like he was wearing like a track suit and like a hood it was real weird and he was like walking away and like slinking through the brush.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Like, I was like, oh, okay, it's a homeless person. And there's a lady that was walking in front of me. She was like, hey,
Starting point is 00:09:11 you can't be here. You can't, hey. He stopped and looked at her. And he had black eyes. He looked. Ashes skin was pale and ashy. It was like,
Starting point is 00:09:26 gross. And I was like, ooh. But, like, at the same time, I was like, what was that and I
Starting point is 00:09:37 I just like made note of it but I didn't like I was still like my brain was like so focused on vagrants or something and I saw that like a couple months later like in the spring time before the
Starting point is 00:09:57 I had a actually I should back up when we moved in we explored the forest we like looked all over the place when we got here, the winter started. And we were, like, looking through, say Mary where that guy was slinking around, we found, I found, like, a, uh, like a series of old, um,
Starting point is 00:10:18 some cedar trees. And it looked like some people had been squatting in there or something. And like, I just figured it was like the local kids or, you know, finding a good spot to get high or whatever. So I was like, oh, well, this place is neat looking. We sat down inside just like, you know, looking around like, wow. It's kind of roomy in here and didn't think anything of it. And fast forward like a whole year.
Starting point is 00:10:49 After I saw the guy slinking through the woods and all that stuff, I see the same guy. He's like lanking his way out of the brush. And I got a clean, clean look at him. So he's coming out and like, oh, it's that guy in the track suit. And I look at him again real close. And I see him. It's like, yeah, his eyes are black. His hands are like elongated and just ashy looking like longer than a normal person.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Really long. And his forearms and his like his whole arms were like extra long. And his legs were long, but he was super skinny. muscles weren't really there. And what he would, what he did was like he pushed his, his arms into his chest or his hands into his chest. They're out like sort of flared him out.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And then like at first I'm like, is that guy on a bicycle? And like there was no, I couldn't see a bike. All I saw was this, like this weird posture. And he like arches forward and he like, he like rocks his head up. And he just starts running back and forth.
Starting point is 00:12:08 and like moving fast. And I was like, what? That's not a bike. What did I just see? Because it was like he was a little bit outside what I had expected to be like what a squash was from my experience in Alaska. It was just a little slightly different. Like the facial structure was slightly different. He had more like he looked more human like he could pass for human.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And that was the crazy part. like a pass for human. I also saw later on, like a couple months later, or not, maybe a month later, I see this kid up in a tree, jamming a stick into the tree.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And he looked, he looked human, but, but like, I noticed he had some back hair, and it was just, like, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I looked up what, uh, he looked back at me i go hey you shouldn't be hey son you shouldn't be jamming on that tree don't wreck the tree and he muttered something at me and some foreign language like i couldn't understand him but he was like he was mad he was like he's like just looking back when i stop and look at him i'm like this rich kid what is he doing and i was like then look he's got the black guys too and there's a little glint crazy glint in his eye
Starting point is 00:13:38 as I as were weird and I wasn't I was like because like all of these things were happening so far apart I wasn't really piecing everything together right up front then fast forward to most recently
Starting point is 00:13:56 the I had been like on my computer you know just like watching YouTube whatever and I had heard
Starting point is 00:14:14 like through my headphones I heard something plop on the roof and I'm like thinking hey it's like sounding a little bit bigger than a raccoon
Starting point is 00:14:25 and I was like what and I looked back and whatever it did whatever was on the roof like bolted but I didn't like I just looked
Starting point is 00:14:35 and it bolted it happened again like about two weeks later I was waiting for it so this time I opened up the window to see what it was and it was a little it was like a like a little four-foot long like baby squash like it had hair all over its body it had like its mouth open its
Starting point is 00:15:00 eyeballs or like pitch black marbles look like an e-walk you know but like but his head was small and it and it's just like he's up in a tree he's up in the cherry tree just above the roof he had jumped. That is like about an eight foot gap. So this little guy jumped in, got an eight foot gap, was looking back at me. I was like looking at him like, whoa, hey little guy. Whoa. And then all of a sudden I hear a stomp, stomp, stomp, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'm like looking for the stomp. And I realize there's like, Mama's looking at me. She's got a scowl on her face. She's not messing around. And she gives another stomp, stop, stop. and she turns around and like sits back down behind the fence. I'm like, okay, good night. And I just shut the, shut the window and like turned out the light and went to bed.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I didn't want to deal with that. And now that the cat's out of the bag, I start seeing, seeing these guys hearing them in the middle of the day. and I decided to just go over there and just look for tracks. And I found one track, took a picture of it. But you know how that is. I didn't have any plaster around me, so I didn't get any cast. I took a picture of it. And then I followed the tracks into what I thought might be the trajectory of like the path they were taking through the rush.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I sort of estimated kind of. found more tracks, followed them, and then it sort of dead-ended by this berry bush. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN-YN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it.
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Starting point is 00:19:12 looked like. So I didn't know what I was looking at. So I was like, oh, I guess they were. ran off so they went through that way past the cell tower and I figured they were gone but then I'm like I've scored
Starting point is 00:19:26 a big score because I just found a huge berry patch so I go get my daughter we get a bucket and we're back there it's like Himalayan Blackberry so they're huge and they're like ripe and ready to go I just sort of stop my way through make a little path for her and we're
Starting point is 00:19:43 just like picking little berries and then I hear a twigs snap like maybe four or five feet away, like just to the left, that ominous silent twig snap. And I look over and I realize I'm like, I hear like the soft pad and like the heavy crush is like the loam is being crushed under like a like a squatch is right there in the bushes. And I look and I see cracks and I see a hair. back, a black hairy back. And then I hear another twig snap again as it ships its way right next to me. And I look back at the spot.
Starting point is 00:20:30 The Squatch moved out of the way so I could see the light. So I knew for sure they were in that little spot. And I realized they had built up this little like shelter right there just like maybe like 12 feet off like the main trail where like families are going by like and I think what happened was this this three or four soccer moms and like like 12 kids happened to come by right as we were like right next to this thing I think we were about to get it I think we were about to get snatched up but because those people had just been going by I was like all right we got to go and I got my daughter to sort of back out and we went home.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And after that, like, I think they, it was more like I was aware and I knew what I was looking for. And after a while, I started getting used to their movements and like what they sound like when they're moving from like left to right. And they started watching me because I had like figured them out. and I was like clearly more aware than like the regular soccer mom. I don't think they'd run into a hunter before. And so it was like like this weird tension. And like they were just sort of like started to just watch me. And like they had like a little bush that they next to my garden that they could watch me from.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And they would like observe me. walk off. The kids would come up whenever we were playing in the back yard. I heard like little juveniles like running up to the fence, like their little feet is like crunching leaves, like just little steps. But like I was like picking them out and like at first I didn't know what to think because all I knew was like they snatched up little kids and all that stuff. So I was like a little freaked out. I was like, all right, all right. We got to go inside now and like my daughter get upset because she wanted to play. But I was like, you know, she saw, she saw that I was scared about something.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And, and she said, okay, we went inside. And I didn't explain to her what was happening. So she, she's, I think she, she sort of understood, but not really. She's, she's, like, only three years old. So she does, she does, she's not really, like, registering what's going off. And, um, and that, and that sort of. got me just like fascinated because I could I knew I could track like I keyed in on what they sound like when they moved through the brush I could separate a mile from a squirrel or a deer
Starting point is 00:23:29 and like when they were like moving and so then suddenly one morning I step out onto the lawn and I'm just here like a little like just little like just little whoop like just little whoops like baby whoops, like real tiny baby whoops. I was like, oh, wow. And it's, it's, it was just like chasing the squirrel up in the trees right above my cat. I was like, I think they eat the cats. Gonna go stand next to my cat. I got too close to the baby when I did that.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And then the mom got up, called to the grunted to the, to the baby. baby went down to mom mom stormed off stomped off she knocked over to like three or four trees like and i'm like just standing there just watching like nature in the raw just like stomping away and i was like this is this might have consequences but at the same time it was like so awesome uh to see it but i was like sort of awestruck because she climbed immediately climbed up into the trees and like swung from like these big timber branches like these thick like four inch branches she used them like a like a springboard so like to like swing from like tree to tree and you just hear it like cracking like loud cracks that are like swinging on it and like
Starting point is 00:25:10 she gets down drops down and plops right behind my garden i'm like I guess I'm not watering today. But like, just the weight of her like plopping down and like hitting the brush and just seeing the fence shake. I was like, oh my gosh. And I realize like this is really tight quarters. Like they're in here and it's tight quarters and I got to watch my step and I got to respect boundaries. and they had been like from I had like been like watching them previously though like kind of checking like right before sundown just to see what they were doing I'd walk past and right around
Starting point is 00:26:00 5.30 or so when the sun's starting to set you hear like you can hear like a look at an audible like yawn as they wake up and they're like you know just like getting up getting ready for the night and what they were doing was like they'd be waking up they'd like mill around get grubs or whatever in the immediate area and when the sun finally like goes down
Starting point is 00:26:28 that's when uh like probably around like nine and clock they'll start to move out into the immediate area or they might have an objective. And that night with the baby, they were going to go get acorns, but it was all of them. And I thought there was only maybe three or four of them in there,
Starting point is 00:26:51 but it was like 10. 10 I didn't know about. They were spread out through the whole park, and they all got up onto the roof. I don't know if it was retaliation or it was just business as usual, but they, I could hear them plop, plop, plop. plop, plop. And they were all just like scurrying around on top of my roof. And it is like terrifying.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And then one of them plops down. I could hear the hair like crinkle down as he sat down and started picking at one of the exhaust like chimneys to the furnace. I could hear it like trying to mess with like one of the screws trying to get it open and here picking at it. And it's like picking and picking. And then you just hear you just hear. here, like, echoing through, like, the ducting, like, the screws coming up. And I'm like, what's going on? Because I can just hear him, like, just, like, scurring around and they're fighting over acorns. And, uh, I go to, like, the, like, the back window just to, because I'm, I'm freaked out and I'm looking all over the place. And then I see, like, there's, this 15 foot tall, like, like, I can't see him, but his eyes are, like, flashlights. Like, it's
Starting point is 00:28:06 crazy. Like, Christmas lights, like beaming up, looking at him. Then he sees me and he's like looking at me. He starts rocking left to right. And I'm looking at him. And I'm thinking, am I going to have to assert myself? I've got to assert myself. So I just lock eyes with him. And he's just like looking. And then he gets real, he leans in to assert himself. and then I I just lean in too and I just get my eyes as big as I can get them
Starting point is 00:28:40 and I just look at them and I just try to give him that that FAFO look you know F around and find out kind of look and like he like
Starting point is 00:28:51 can't handle the direct eye contact for too long and he breaks he breaks contact and he like slinks away and then all of a sudden everybody just like piling off of like the the roof and then it's sort of like a weird tension uh sort of brewing in the background so i got these potentially angry Sasquatch living like
Starting point is 00:29:20 30 feet away from my house right and i'm not not sure if i'm like equipped like in terms of like firepower and even if i was like it's like a suburban neighborhood if i if if if things go like sideways and i start shooting i'm not sure if i can shoot in a safe direction you know and it's it's like a really uneasy like like i got to watch my step because i don't want to force force the situation and so more and more once they they once they realized that like i could see them they started changing how they moved because there was like a weird hostility. They, um, I went out.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I just wanted to sort of like make amends because I felt like I was stepping out everyone's toes. I just threw like a bunch of Brazil nuts, like some nuts out into the woods. Uh, earlier that day and, um, or one of the following nights. And as the sun was setting, the kids were finding it. And the, like, the dad was like grunted. at them to get back, get back. The word for
Starting point is 00:30:41 stay away or get away is and like when they weren't listening and they were getting real close to the fence, he was like, he was like, and he was just repeating it over and over again and then they stopped and they backed away. And I was like, just watching it's like, okay, they have a language.
Starting point is 00:31:07 They definitely have a language because, like, everyone knew what that meant. And then, um, the next day, we, I was like, uh, trying to hose down the lawn because it was dry because we were like mess with, we had, uh, we're fixing our sprinkler system. And so like, the yard was dry. And I was just trying to, to save it. And, um, I'm out there spraying and the kids hear the water like plopping it out on the leaves near the fed. and I can just hear like all of them just like making a bee line just to check it out. And like the mom was like, bruh. And they stop and she was like, ah, blah. And they, they melted away. They just like went to other parts of the woods.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And it was like definitely confirmed like stay back, stay away. You know, that was interesting. the um the um what i and at this point like i'm sort of going for going for broke now i'm like so now i'm like a little like on edge and so like every night i'm like patrolling patrolling like the upper level i'm like uh what i found is like if you If you can, like, if you have an extra room or something, turn on the lights on the extra room, and you can watch them from, like, a dark room.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What it'll do is the light will pick up on the back of their eyes. It's like, it's super bright, like super bright. And you can actually pick up where they're at. They're a lot easier to track because they really reflect the light. It's like that's their Achilles heel is like they have really reflective eyes. I'm assuming they can see really well in the dark. Like they've adapted to that. But the eyes are like, like, I don't know if you remember like as a kid, like if you ever looked into the barrel of like the Nintendo gun for duck hunt.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Absolutely, yes. I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't recommend people do that. That's not a recommendation, but I do know what you're talking about. It just has like that, that funny, like gray, like, really, like deep, reflective lens. That's what their eyes look like. It just like it looks like you can tell that things are magnified. So I'm thinking they have like incredible, really sharp distant vision at night.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I would on occasion what I've seen like from them was like when I started trying to do like I got some plaster I was going to try to get some tracks one night they came back from I think they got a deer or something or they got a bunch of like salmon or something but they I could hear them coming from quite a ways away normally they steps off but they This time they had their heavy foot and lead foot or their erosion. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.
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Starting point is 00:37:19 I was going to. I knew I was cruising for a bruising. And I just had to keep my nose down. But like at the same time, I'm like, I got it. I got to keep an eye out, right? So I'm listening to them like just like, like just pound through. And I had realized. So yeah, there was like 10 or 12 of them and about three of them were really big and the rest were just juveniles, right?
Starting point is 00:37:47 So they're they got a big family. I got one one big one big one and like the mom and the pop are just monsters. Like I would I would estimate like it is probably like a the mom's probably 13 and the dad is. definitely a 15-footer. Like, just huge. I went out there to just check for the tracks. I was going to get a cast, and there was one where the guy jumped off the roof. But after
Starting point is 00:38:24 that, they had raked the ground. Like, there was no tracks. They had raked the ground behind them as they went into the park. And I was just, like, flabbergasted by, like, that's incredibly intelligent like these aren't animals at that point and um but I made one terrible
Starting point is 00:38:49 cast and some wood chips where the guy landed I mean it gave me a a good size it was about like a 15 inch like print it wasn't like huge but it was one of like the mid-level
Starting point is 00:39:03 juveniles but um after that all I did was like every night just do the same routine. You turn on a light and we're far into the house, patrol into it and look until you see like a twinkle or something. And what I had once they had figured out that I could see them, I saw one night while I was like putting the kid to bed. She's going bonkers just running all over the house. And I caught the eye shine of some of them. And I saw them coming out not all at once,
Starting point is 00:39:40 but they're like one, two, three, like, like, like, uh, just sort of really like delayed, like, um, like you do in the military. It's like you don't just let it go at the same time. You just go, go, go, go, go, like real, like, paste. And like, hoping not to catch my gaze. But of course, I'm hyper aware. And I'm seeing this and I'm pretending not to see it. just so I could observe it. And they did that. And after they figured out that I saw them, they stopped coming out that way. So there's like a trail that goes next to my house next to my office window.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And so I can see everyone that comes in and out pretty well. And this time they've stopped coming out of that trail. And they seem to be coming out the side trails. And one day after that, that I noticed how high they get up in the trees. And most recently, what I've observed is
Starting point is 00:40:53 that they the dad will get up into one of the pine trees. I've gotten, I figured out, it took me a second because I had to start taking photos so I could zoom in and see what I'm looking at. The dad gets up in the tree in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:41:14 He looks around for, for dinner and then the signals to the rest of them go that way and they they snack on a cat or they get fruit or whatever they're doing and um they uh they've been um they've stopped going for the acorns or they'll wait till I fall asleep to go after the acorns and last night the mother I got the gaze of the mother in her gigantic head she's huge she's like
Starting point is 00:41:54 it's real boxy like just huge it's a big lady through my my bathroom window my bathroom window is like really high it's this tiny window she's looking in
Starting point is 00:42:09 making sure I'm not coming because I think she's trying to get the baby up to get some of the acorns and I don't know if she's like hanging on the tree is dug for a tree to like sort of reach across but it's like she's big enough to sort of do it so I think she tried to get the baby out she couldn't get it that way I saw her eyes and then she tried to look away to hide to hide her eye flash and I just sort of like
Starting point is 00:42:42 laid down just to listen just to see what they do. Because when I lay down, they start to move because they think I'm asleep or something. I just wait. And then like, she got up on the roof. And I just
Starting point is 00:42:56 saw that, I just felt like the corner of the house we, like, sort of like bowed a little bit because I don't think she, she knows she can't just go get up on the roof. She's a little big now. But,
Starting point is 00:43:11 um, I heard, I just felt it like gently as possible, like, try to sit down on the side of my roof. And I could hear the little one just like, hit or patter towards the acorn tree. And like he's like up there, you know, he brings branches back with like loaders of the acorns. And I found like little like fang marks.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I can tell which ones are theirs or which ones are squirrels because some of the fang marks in the acorn will have like this pus. It'll start running like this digestive enzyme or something and their saliva. It'll start oozing out of the acorns. Like the squirrels, it was like it was nibbled. But like when the squatches
Starting point is 00:43:55 are chewing on it, it has like this white like mucus or something like oozing out of the acorn. What I've noticed in terms of like timing patterns, they seem to go around like 10 o'clock they're out in about and about two in the morning it's like the witching hour
Starting point is 00:44:21 they're they're getting they're either they're hunting or they're they're finishing up eating something or they're like sort of around it's like the big round up it might start out like small things they're just like looking and scouting around but like about two in the morning is usually when they're on to something and they're the most active and they're like run it around. They think nobody's awake anymore. And so they're really just going for it. They're going nuts in the neighborhood and like all around. I could just hear them just run back and forth. They're like ripping around and like right around 345 is when they sort of try to pack it in. And that's when they sort of try to grab what you can on the way back into the park.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And I remember you had mentioned like right around 345. somebody was messing with your zipper on your tent, right? Absolutely. I'm thinking, what I'm thinking is, like, that might have been a juvenile, like, Sasquatch, just, like, exploring, just checking it out. Like, maybe mom was right next to you guys, but, like, they're probably on their way home from, like, you know, hunting or whatever they were doing. But that's what I've noticed is, like, they keep the same pattern.
Starting point is 00:45:42 they'll um right around 10 o'clock they're they're out and about um they're like looking around some people they're still jogging around and like the mom i've seen her down from my bath actually my bathroom window had a good vantage point my neighbor's driveway and the baby seemed to be really fascinated with um the um one of those like you know how the yards have those little like down lights that are like the little lamps like he was really fascinated with it so i'd see him like messing with it and the mom sort of sitting next to him while he explores and then like a guy with like a skinny guy with a flashlight would just go walk like not even a foot and a half away from them both like just like trying to get home you know he's looking like it was just amazed me like how one how quiet they can be
Starting point is 00:46:42 how close you can be to them without like even knowing they're there and like it makes you wonder like how much how much you're like I wonder if there is a Sasquatch out there and then like you while you're wondering that you're walking past a Sasquatch you know there's a I got a couple photos of um the eye shine of like what I've noticed is like when the mother, when she's got a young, she separates her from the main group, and she'll, like, keep the younger, the youngest ones, kind of away from the bigger ones, I'm guessing because they get aggressive or something, but she'll stay separate. And when, whenever it goes out, the young youngsters will stick to, like, her little, like, tree, and they'll be up in her tree while, while they're, out like everyone else is out hunting and they were like waiting for food but they're they're up in the tree and what they're doing is they're just like scanning around just looking around that's all
Starting point is 00:47:55 they're doing is just looking around looking for mom looking for danger but they're like you just see their little eyes like like uh just like really bright little twinkly eyes as they like pan around and like the rims of like the iris are the brightest, like I'm guessing because like the light reflects back and it's the brightest around like the edge. You can catch the edge. You can tell where they're looking because the edge is like the brightest. So you get this is a bright little ring inside the eyes. And they're looking down.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And absolutely every time I go to peak and see if they're there, all eyes, all of the eyes are like twinkly little eyes, like wherever they are in the forest, like just like laser focused right on me like they all like make eye contact and like it's incredible like how quickly they zip like they're on me and then like uh it's it's like i am trying to like you know keep a lookout but i'm also trying not to upset the apple cart too much more you know But last night It was a little crazy because They had decided to stick close to the neighborhood Normally they don't touch anything
Starting point is 00:49:23 Or like mess around in this On our block They'll go out And they'll leave like a rampate Like a path of destruction About like two blocks out But like right here It's like everything's untouched
Starting point is 00:49:39 They don't touch my garden they don't touch the berries they don't touch anything the squirrels are like running around like they're not touching anything um they just like keep a really low profile they don't they don't make any loud like like grunts or or um they don't call they're just really silent they're like uh really well i guess you call it noise discipline they got really good noise discipline but they're they're very stealthy about it. And, but I've seen a lot of,
Starting point is 00:50:18 um, like thinking back, um, at my, uh, preschool, they, the ladies there had told me that there was, um,
Starting point is 00:50:29 uh, a skinny guy, like breaking into the, one of the sheds at the edge of the parking lot, closer to the, like, the forest edge. And they called the cops.
Starting point is 00:50:41 The cops got to him, told him to freeze, and, like, he ran. And the cop said he was like a guy in a track suit with sunglasses. He ran and jumped and leaped up onto the roof. And he had moved faster than anybody he'd ever seen before. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states.
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Starting point is 00:52:58 You know, was that Bigfoot? You know, because or maybe they did and they just weren't allowed to like just like report that. But it's real funny. Like if you, if you say in your neighborhood, If you notice, like, trails in between places, like, say, like, in an urban area, you'll see, like, a trail looks like a game trail or something's been, like, work in it. And, like, in California, I just assume it was just homeless people, but I think I've seen it everywhere now. But, like, Alaska, you could say it's a bear or a moose or something like that. and then like you when thinking anything of it but like out here we don't have we don't have bears in the city we don't have moose out here
Starting point is 00:53:50 there's like there's like a little tiny deer like going through like a little they're not very heavy maybe 80 pounds right and um you can you can see like there's like clearly something heavy has been using like little little pockets you'll see all the bushes, the brambles, will be sort of all, like, hollowed out, and there'll be, like, a little path going in and out, and they're, like, oh, they're, like, peppered across, like, the area. Like, you'll see them, like, zigzagging, darting, like, back and forth. There's some, like, old farmland that they had been converted to, like, a park. So people will go there to walk, and so they have a bunch of, like, you know, nice fencing and stuff, and I started noticing
Starting point is 00:54:42 like somebody was knocking down the fencing and seeing that there was somebody had also knocked down steel fencing at one of the vineyards here and like it was like clearly a path just going down through and down at the bottom of the hill
Starting point is 00:55:05 kind of is where my daughter's preschool is and like you just down at the bottom somebody had like parked their camper van and it was like
Starting point is 00:55:21 normally nobody nobody parks that stuff they don't they don't like seeing like abandoned vehicles and stuff but like it was down at the bottom kind of in the same sort of path
Starting point is 00:55:32 is where they this other stuff had been happening I see it there for a couple of days and all of a sudden, I drive past it, it looked like it exploded. Like, the top had been ripped off, like, all the, like, the innards and everything was, like, shredded. There was, like, shards of stuff. Like, somebody had driven, like, under an overpass or something. Like, it just blew, just completely exploded.
Starting point is 00:55:55 But it was parked there. Like, nobody had been touching it. So, in my mind, I'm thinking that the Squatch had just, like, ripped it apart, just, like, looking for, like, scavenging stuff and didn't know what they were doing. but like something like ripped it apart. Like it's the only, the only thing is only reasonable explanation. So I don't think high school kids could do it. That kind of destruction.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It just had to be like this asquatch. But the, I've been driving around some of the neighboring towns and there have been, like, you do see like these trails. and like these things that cut through the fences and then you'll see like these like tore up trees and like bushes and it just looks super squatchy in there and like look over and it's like oh it's behind the it's behind the best buy oh great and like once i'm aware of it like it was everywhere
Starting point is 00:56:59 like it was everywhere these things are everywhere and um i'm thinking they've been here the whole time and we're just like not we never noticed because they're so good at at hiding because they're ambush predators, right? I recently went out to a U-Pick orchard with my wife and daughter on like a weekend before last. And we had parked the car and like we picked apples, you know, everything looks nice, everything's clean cut, real cap. and then on our way back to the car we don't pay for our apples
Starting point is 00:57:46 or open up the back of my my wife's vehicle and we're just like lug up apples daughter has to go to the bathroom blah bitty blah and I get a little time to just sort of look at my surroundings and I realize like
Starting point is 00:58:02 some of the apple trees didn't look very well kept. They looked real jagged and like bushy and weird and like just like creepy looking and like I'd seen like a spot where they had mowed the grass but they didn't want to go too deep into it and I was like this is looking squatchy uh and like luckily the couple had let me borrow with one of their buckets so I had to go return the bucket and I go I just we were talking about apples and then I said I love these apples but I got to keep
Starting point is 00:58:37 the Sasquatch off of them just as a joke just to to sort of drop a hint that I know what's going on. And then like she just rolls her eyes. She's like, oh my gosh, don't even get me started. And apparently, according to this lady who's like a local, she says like the people in the know are saying that these guys are in all the parks. They're in like a lot of the urban areas now. They're not like staying to the woods.
Starting point is 00:59:09 They're like actually coming into the cities. and they're sort of like becoming a nuisance. But you don't hear about it because nobody talks about it because it's like the elephant in the room. It's like if you bring it up with a lot of these people, it's like nobody wants to believe you or they get real, you know, you know, they get. And it's been like really eye-opening. I don't know. Just like the idea of like you go out on this grand adventure, you get out into the mountains, you would expect to see, like, something like that.
Starting point is 00:59:43 If you see a Sasquatchel, like, wow, that was incredible. But, like, you come home, it's like, I'm probably in cool with camping for a while. I'm just going to relax here. And now it's like, you know, they're here too. They're, like, absolutely everywhere. And I'm just trying to figure out in the wintertime, they weren't in the forest. They weren't in there at all. And I'm trying to figure out where they might go.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I've just by chance of like, just like, you know, looking into the area, there are like a series of caves nearby, like within like the Westland area. And like, but they won't say where they are because they don't want people like trash in them. So it's like a local secret. But I'm kind of wondering if they don't. just like hunker down in the caves for the winter and then just sort of come back in the spring like like um they're still like hunting and doing their stuff but they're like staying warm warmer in out of the cold um but i don't know um like just like after would you say like if you
Starting point is 01:01:11 have you noticed anything in your area in terms of like trails or like weird stuff that's out place like bushes and stuff and pour up trees so what you say out there josh i'll say that our areas are completely different i live in um small just say small town iowa um there's not not much where i'm at but i i do have some questions for you though yeah for sure this is extremely interesting can you
Starting point is 01:01:48 remind us I know you had mentioned it in the previous episode you were on the general area where this is taking place and you know keep it as vague as you need to for anything you can provide for context
Starting point is 01:02:06 oh okay I'm in a town called Westland. It's a in a Clackamas County. It's just south of Portland about like half an hour outside of like 25 minutes
Starting point is 01:02:21 outside of Portland. It's like on the other side of the Willamette River. It's sort of one side is like Oregon City and Candy
Starting point is 01:02:36 another side is Tiger and Sherwood. and there's all little towns that are like sort of like suburbs of Portland essentially but we're on like a like the opposite side of the river like for the rest of it so we don't you don't get like a lot of crime on this side of the river it's like it just most of the stuff happens on on the opposite side but yeah so just south of Portland I'm like right on the backside of
Starting point is 01:03:12 Westland so I'm like just a kitty corner to a bunch of ranches and farm farmland and there's like a few vineyards it's like it's surrounded on all sides by river so there's like the Tuolitan
Starting point is 01:03:28 River meets the Willamette River and on the north side is a place called Lake Oswego and that is essentially we're like on a giant hill and the down
Starting point is 01:03:43 probably the northeast corner of the hill is where you get into Lake Oswego and it's pretty much like a weird little like peninsula of like it's either it's river or at the lake front but it's like surrounded by water and just
Starting point is 01:04:02 to the east is Mount Hood so we're kind of in the foothills of Mount Hood to the west is Astoria and like the Oregon coast and like
Starting point is 01:04:16 all that stuff out there like Tillamook It's Yeah so it's like I would say like Western Oregon It's more of a rainforesty side But just south of Portland
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's very interesting When you look at it on a map because you can definitely see how it is that southern part of the whole Portland urban sprawl, but the green is there. And it's definitely like you could see that, you know, it's starting as it grows more and more, this Portland suburb area, it's slowly taking over more and more of the woods, I would guess. And you could see how stuff like this could definitely. definitely happen with
Starting point is 01:05:13 with different types of of animals losing their habitat for sure yeah totally um yeah it's just so funny
Starting point is 01:05:28 look it's a little ominous too though like um I if I if I when it gets about the witching hour and I start looking at windows sometimes I'm looking now I'm just looking for straight eye shine I didn't even bother trying to look at for shapes. I'm just looking for the shine. And I got one peeking at me
Starting point is 01:05:47 through the passenger window of the opposite side of the car. I was like, what is that bright light? It was like, so the flashlight. And I realized it was just one eye. He's just peeking through a tinted window, but I could still see the flash. It was so bright. But like just the fact that they they slink around like that. Like, they're just very, like, elusive. And I've had it, like, come up, like, when I was in my garden, this was, like, last week, in my garden, a little after the whole, like, upsetting mama
Starting point is 01:06:31 and, like, the whole eye contact thing. The dad, like, came up to the fence line. And he just went in, like, I could hear him just go, and I look, and then, like, I hear him move. And, like, he's already, like, behind, like, a timber tree, like, 10 feet back. And he's peeking at, he's looking at me now, like, broad daylight. And it was, you know, he's got big, beady, like, big, round black eyes, like, like an Ewak. Right, but like a big gorilla head, human nose, like a pudgy nose, like a pretty thick jawline, like big thick gorilla lips, but like real flat face. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:09:57 from like a try to remember from like 20, 30 years ago. And they're pretty close, but like, not as, like, um, not as spot on as I would like, but, um, pretty close. The, uh, the nose on them is like, um, they have a really strong, like, bridge, like, from, like, the forehead down to, like, where it meets, like, the face, like, the, where that dips in by the eyes. It's real thick, like straight down. But then it sort of flattens up, and then it comes back out like a triangle,
Starting point is 01:10:32 like it's off, like triangular shape, but it's just pointing down. And like it's sort of like the shadow of it makes like a nice chevron. But yeah, what's it? I know there's that guy that's controversial. It was like getting all these head shots of like those that everybody's like, I don't know, that looks fake. Todd standing. that's it
Starting point is 01:10:59 it's it it was it was he did a it was essentially pretty close not as hairy but like the one where they hit that the young one with the big round eyes it was just like that it was just like that really and yeah I was I was a little surprised by that because like when I saw it I thought it was like fake
Starting point is 01:11:23 I like nah I think he's just because he's only getting the headshot like like where's it? rest of the body. Either he knows what they look like and he just had like them made up or or they're real because like the curtains
Starting point is 01:11:38 light geist for like Bigfoot is like this big sweeping hair like hunk with like like you know chilling with Sasquatch or like Teen Wolf you know like Harry and the Henderson's
Starting point is 01:11:54 like not not not not what it I don't know. It's just like if I was going to make it up, I would make it look like that because that's what everybody knows.
Starting point is 01:12:05 You know, that's how they identify it, you know. Exactly. And I just, I just feel like, look, if it's fake, he fooled me. I think it's real.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I think what he's got is real because it's just, it's just too, too a little out of the ordinary because, like, too specific to fake, you know? and those features are like dead on.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So I'm thinking that's, he caught him in the wintertime, they got more hair on their face or something. Maybe they don't got, maybe they shed it in the summer. Who knows? Like, I don't, I don't even know what their life cycle is beyond just like
Starting point is 01:12:45 how they hunt right now and it's summertime. It's interesting to think about. Like, if you've ever seen, like, some of those those videos or those TikToks where they're like
Starting point is 01:13:02 people who are like saying oh a ghost is coming to visit a girl and like you see two twinkling eyes and it's and she's like it's back again and like it starts knocking on the glass and she films it and it's a
Starting point is 01:13:18 Sasquatch tap it on the glass getting her to come outside and you know they're saying like a polter guy or something and like you just go through YouTube and you can find like a lot of stuff where they're just saying like the guy who's going fishing and like all of a sudden he hears a roar and he's like what's that I don't know and there's like tons of bigfoot footage the people don't know is big foot footage
Starting point is 01:13:45 because they're not looking out for that because it's like it's not like oh that was something weird because they're not thinking about that stuff but it's it's it's it's interesting to think that, like, you could probably go back through your, your library and just, like, see a video where it was something weird. You listen to it one more time. He's like, oh, oh, that is a squash. Oh, wild. And, like, it's just like, it's a situation, and you can sort of, like, glean a lot of, like, information just off of what was happening in the scene. And, like, it's a lot easier to pick it out because at that point, they're not trying. to trick you because they're, you know, it's like they're trying to do like a fishing video or something and like a squatch screams at them. And they're like, I don't know what that is, but they don't ever claim it's a Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And like you can sort of cherry pick that stuff. It's like, but it is hard to sort of like, you really got to be on your toes when it's like when you're looking at this stuff because there's so many people they're just trying to trying to fake it. And I don't know. It just seems like it just seems like you couldn't
Starting point is 01:15:03 you couldn't easily just as easily put less efforted and go find an actual Sasquatch and like get the footage with like some trail cams or something and like call it a day. But like they go through a lot of effort like thousands of dollars for a suit
Starting point is 01:15:20 and it doesn't look right. And then they run to go go hike in the woods and run around a little bit. and like, like, you could have just walk behind the Best Buy. Just snag the photo. Have you ever considered putting up trail cams around your house or having, like, an audio recorder going at night? I thought about the audio recorder, but, like, I got one trail cam,
Starting point is 01:15:52 and whenever I put it out, activity ceases on that side of the house. Right. And I'll see stuff happening on the other side and I move the camera over there. And then nothing. It'll be nothing. And I've just been doing this dance
Starting point is 01:16:15 and I just couldn't figure it out. And what I think is going on is like they'll be up in there. There'll be a scout up in the tree just watching me. dedicated to watch what I'm doing because I'm Mr. Snoop I'm
Starting point is 01:16:29 snooping around too much and they can get way up into the canopy where I can't really see them and they'll just look down comfortably
Starting point is 01:16:39 you know scout the area and sort of get a sense of like what I'm up to and then they they know just to go around or avoid it
Starting point is 01:16:50 or or it might not even be that complicated it might be that Like, they just can see, like, the infrared. And, like, the cameras are probably putting off, like, a crazy light. They're like, what is that? Okay, get away from that thing.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I thought about going up on the roof and, like, strapping it to the chimney, just under the oak tree. But I'm, like, a little, like, I'm not sure if they're watching me when I do it. and like I said as soon as I move or mess with something they sort of change their behavior and like sort of avoid that thing for a little while
Starting point is 01:17:36 but if I was going to do like cams I need to do like 10 of them and just like put them out and I think the audio recorder probably be easier because it's like real small and you can just like ditch it by the fence and just see what happens. Oh, yeah, you can set up to record
Starting point is 01:17:57 for certain hours of the day. It doesn't have to be going all the time. Have you, remind me, have you talked directly to your neighbors to see if they have seen similar things to like what you're experiencing? Um, I,
Starting point is 01:18:13 I don't think it's, it's one of those, it's like, um, keeping up with the Jones. It's a, it's a, like a middle class,
Starting point is 01:18:24 like other middle class neighborhood and everybody's really in their lane and nobody nobody talks like that like I have to get out to the country where people are a little more relaxed they'll shoot they'll shoot the breeze with me about it
Starting point is 01:18:40 but like like the people that own the orchard they can like once you drop it. It's got to be usually it's got to be really blue-collar people I found that like I went into Cabela is when I bought the game cam. I just
Starting point is 01:18:54 like the girl at the register, I go, hey, do you guys have any, like, fleaer technology or any sort of, like, heat sensing, like, scopes or anything like that? I got a Sasquatch problem at my place, and I'm trying to sort of just get a beat on what they're doing. And, like, she wrote her, it's like, oh, my gosh, tell me about it. And, like, so I think a lot of people know, I don't, but I don't know what my neighbors, my direct neighbors know. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states.
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Starting point is 01:21:56 And be interesting to see how it develops. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel that you're safe in the area that you're at? Or do you guys kind of feel like, you know, a little bit like you're under surveillance? I feel like I'm under surveillance. My wife is just so busy with her work that, like, it's like, you know, trying to, even though I've shown her photos of stuff, like with, like, the,
Starting point is 01:22:31 eyes and stuff. She'll try to explain it away. She doesn't want to, she really doesn't want to hear it. She doesn't get a time. And she doesn't want me telling her daughter about this stuff and like having her go to school and like scared. Just like she doesn't want her being scared about it. But me personally, I'm, I'm a little, like, I know they're watching me. And I know it's like, bro. I'm on thin ice. I'm on thin ice over here. Like trying to snoop around so much. I've ruffled some feathers, and I don't feel as comfortable. I haven't been through to the park anymore. I just stopped going.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I just, like, they don't, like, sort of come in my yard, and they keep a wide berth. And I think if I start going into the park or anything like that, it's like all bets are off. So I've just sort of been sort of like a weird little island. But yeah, I don't. I know that, like, in terms of like protecting myself, I'm a crack shot. I mean, I can lay out some rounds, but at the same time, I'm like, I don't know. I just, I feel there is some, there is some tension. Like, I don't, I don't feel safe, honestly.
Starting point is 01:24:08 And, and it seems like the neighbors in the area are just blissfully unaware of what's going on. Because when I had upset, originally upset the mom and she had stormed off, was crashing through the trees and, like, all this stuff. There was, like, five or six girls, like, coming up the trail, laughing. about whatever one other person said, just like blissfully unaware of the danger they were directly. and and like thankfully like the mom just like picked a spot and plop down
Starting point is 01:24:43 and like it sort of ended there but like there's there's like moms and kids and dogs and nobody's nobody's noticing this stuff and it's like me me alone and like a sprinkling of people that already know about it
Starting point is 01:24:58 you know but for the most part most people are just they don't it's not registering and like that makes me feel unsafe too because if, you know, like, I've heard stories of them, like, like, snatching up kids through the window and, like, you know, not, um, you know, like, I could be, I could go around the corner or something or I'll be in the garden or something. And I just, like, they could easily just, like, reach out and, like, just end me, like, snap my neck, rip my head off. and it's like an uneasy feeling. My fences are very strong.
Starting point is 01:25:44 It's like a rotten old fence. And it's just really unsettling just to sort of know that like I'm on that knife's edge and I really just got to watch my step. So like in terms of investigations and stuff, I'm going to keep, I'm just going to keep my nose down for a little bit. But what I would like to do, like in an ideal world, where I had, where money was no object. I would, I would do like a, like, Fleer, like cameras on, on drones and just do a flyby.
Starting point is 01:26:21 And then, like, like, 10 trail cams and just catch something. Because, like, I can hear where they're going. I know what they're, where they're kind of, like, bopping around. And, like, if I could get in there, put a bunch of trails, little cams around, get the, get the, get a flare going to see the body heat, see where they're at. Yeah, you can get all sorts of great evidence, but it's real tense. It's tight quarters.
Starting point is 01:26:52 It's too tight. And it's weird. Like, if I didn't live in the area, if I was just like a passerby, like they didn't recognize if I just look like a regular person, like walking the dog, you could plop some, you could plop some, like, quick, Little, like, cameras down. No big deal. But they're on me.
Starting point is 01:27:16 They're on me. Like, like, a gang, like, dragnet. Like, I got a, I got to, I've really got to watch what I do. I've tried to reach out to, um, um, Cliff at the, at the, the, the, the bigfoot, museum. I'd say like ask for some advice all he's always just get some it looks a great opportunity to get some casts
Starting point is 01:27:43 and I was like so it's it's been a pretty pretty tense like so yeah I don't I don't feel safe but I feel like they're hardwired to hide and so they're not going to just come out and like get me but if I
Starting point is 01:28:01 give them the opportunity they'll probably like snatch me right up so I stay out of the woods I stay just kind of away from my fence lying and I kind of got my little bubble I stay in. It's a very interesting story, Josh. And as I said before, it'd be interesting to see how it develops.
Starting point is 01:28:23 But if there are listeners in the same area of West Lynn, the area just south of Portland, and you're noticing things like this, please reach out as well. Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Sounds like there could be something interesting starting to happen in the south area of Portland. But I guess I could get away. I mean the park.
Starting point is 01:28:51 If you want the actual park, it is Merrillhurst Heights Park. It's right at the top of the hill. Interesting. Yeah, I feel like I think a random person can get through. Maybe distract some cameras and just like do. a pass-through. You might catch something. But they're definitely still in there. I can see
Starting point is 01:29:27 every night I'm seeing the kids like pulling around or jamming on trees. Actually last night or three nights ago I actually did see like that one kid with the stick he was like 20 feet up in the tree.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I could see a silhouette and they looked over and I could see the eye shine. I knew for sure. So there's like, I think they have, like, there might be like an issue where like they don't produce as much body hair right off the bat. But then they start, maybe they sort of like as puberty hits, they really just put it on. Because I think I've seen that kid like run into the park and steal sandwiches from the birthday parties. because like if you look at like um like any sort of like uh primate species
Starting point is 01:30:24 if you look at the babies their their hair line is just like a human it's just like just like just little hair on top maybe no hair on the body and they look like a little like a little kid with like a big melon head and like I've seen these kids like come through run up grab grab a couple sandwiches or something or some treats from like the tray
Starting point is 01:30:44 like some of the birthday parties and the covering and like run back into the bushes. I like initially when I saw that I never put two and two together. I was like ah, like this seems like a great place to live, you know, like the little redneck kids get into trouble.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And oh, I'm getting, I'm seeing to flash. It might be flashlights. Yeah, it looks like it's flashlights. That's good. Okay. Pretty well. Pretty wild stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, sorry. So it's just like, it's a, like, there's like a thousand stories. I'm just off the top of my head, like a bunch of little things. Absolutely. Yeah, if you're in the area, Merrillhurst Heights Park, just give it a pass through or just go check it out. Just look around.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I don't go too far off the trail because there's a day walker, day watcher. So like left like over by like the cell tower, they'll have their little like hut or their nest. And on opposite side of the trail, like usually the male will be like watching people from like the behind the trees. And you can hear them like you'll hear like a twig snap or something. So it's best just to like sort of try to take in what you can like you're pretending to walk through and then just like like, like, like, like, GoPro or something and just just trying to catch it on the fly. Great advice for people to take if they do decide
Starting point is 01:32:28 to take a hike in that area. But Josh, I appreciate you coming back on to provide an update for what you're experiencing down there south of Portland. Yeah. Yeah, I just appreciate you. Let me talk about it because like there's, I don't have many
Starting point is 01:32:46 outlets for this stuff. So it's a little off-putting, a little stress. restful and it's good to get it off my chest. Absolutely. Well, you have a great night, Josh. Hopefully you get some rest tonight. Yeah. All right.
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