Bigfoot Society - They’re Not Supposed to Be Here — But I Saw One!
Episode Date: October 21, 2025What happens when a man finds sobriety in the high deserts of Southern California — and ends up face to face with something massive, quiet, and watching? In this powerful and wide-ranging episode, w...e sit down with John, an amateur filmmaker and RC truck hobbyist whose solo desert outings put him directly into the path of a rogue Sasquatch. From secret tunnels in the brush to a deafening roar that silenced a pack of coyotes, John’s experiences stretch across a mysterious “desert triangle” — connecting Yucca Valley, Idyllwild, Desert Hot Springs, and 29 Palms.But John’s story is only the beginning. In the second half of the episode, we hear chilling encounters from across the U.S.:— A woman in Nebraska shares a five-year pattern of peaceful Bigfoot visitations along river systems, including the gifting of plush toys and the return of a skull.— A childhood encounter in Brookdale, California, near the San Lorenzo River, leads one woman decades later to new experiences in the forests of Mount Shasta.— A family in Indiana sees a massive orange-and-yellow striped creature walking near a lake before the 4th of July.— In Colorado’s Rio Grande National Forest near Bear Creek, a man recalls his senior trip in the 1980s — when pinecones rained down on tents, grunts echoed through the trees, and a flashlight revealed not one, but two upright creatures watching from the hillside.— And in Georgia’s Chattahoochee National Forest, a solo camper is bluff charged at night by something heavy, fast, and very close.These aren’t just campfire tales — they’re firsthand accounts of how the unexplained can break into everyday life. Desert or forest, river or mountain — the stories are out there. And they’re closer than you think.Resources:John's channel - https://www.youtube.com/@rabbitlodgeracing🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072
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All right, Bigfoot Society,
we've got the privilege
of talking to John today.
John is an outdoorsman,
an amateur filmmaker
who reached out to me
about some things he's experienced
and maybe even heard
from Southern California.
So welcome to the show, John. How are you doing today, sir?
Oh, I'm doing okay. How are you doing, Jeremiah?
Thank you for having me in advance here. It's good to be able to share a few things here with you.
Absolutely. The area of Southern California doesn't get brought up a lot on the show.
So it's exciting to have you on to hear what is going on down there.
I think maybe the most we've heard down there is Crestline and Lake Arrowhead has come up a few times down there by San Bernard.
Dino, but I'm sure there's more going on than just that for sure.
Oh, yeah.
There's a, it's just in silly terms.
I call it like a little desert triangle because where you just mentioned, it's just about
west of me.
And it's just this thing that happens this often.
But for starters from back what you said right now, I was the same way.
I didn't know.
And it wasn't until later on, and we'll get into that where I actually, it was like,
looked at the Bigfoot map online.
I'm not sure if it was BFRO, but I think it's just the Bigfoot map.
But yeah, there's dots all over the place all through here.
And then that obviously opened up the wormhole.
It's pretty cool, actually.
It goes all the way back to the 60s and stuff.
So it's wild, yeah.
Absolutely.
So what got you into the subject to begin with, John?
It's silly.
And I'm glad that we're having this episode here,
because one thing before we get started,
every time I'm a huge fan of this,
and it didn't start like that at all.
But just in a nutshell,
But I noticed that any time, you know, when the desert came up, I don't know, it just, I set my fork down when I'm listening to the show.
I'm like desert Sasquatch.
I heard that a few different times.
And it was like something that just never got expanded on.
And I was just fascinated by that.
And I was telling myself early on, does that mean there's rogue ones out here?
Are there families?
There couldn't be families because there's not a whole lot of places to hide.
And then anyway, so it's pretty, it just definitely opened up a big wormhole for once you see all those little dots show up on the map.
But for me, in short, it was back in the, I'm in my 40s or whatever, but way back 80s and 90s, we would always over here, my pops and my own.
kind of talking about this Procter Valley place, Procter Valley.
The only thing I knew at the time was Harry and the Henderson's, maybe.
I don't even think that was out yet, but we'd always hear about this place called Procter Valley.
That was the first creepy kind of sign of any sort of weird activity like that.
And they would always mention how people would go out there and party.
I'm pretty sure it's all homes now, but there was always creepy stories like that, big things that people would see out there.
And that right away, I always kept my ears up.
But after that, even then, as a kid and getting into my teenage years, I was always pretty, pretty,
about it, that sort of thing, if it even exists, is only going to be up in NorCal. I've heard a lot of
your guests say that before, and that was me too. I was like, I only thought NorCal. Anyways,
life just glitches and does what it does, especially being in SoCal, we surf, we skate, we get
crazy, we party too much. And if we're lucky to make it out, which I was, then this thing
happened. And I'm not sure if you want to ask me a few more questions before we get started. But
right around 2019, something very big happened that kind of started this whole journey in a nutshell.
I'd say we can get right into it. This sounds very interesting.
Cool. In a nutshell, yeah, like I said, that I was way back in the day.
And fast forward through life and girlfriends and everything else.
I'm very open about saying this. I got really heavy in the parting and taking everything
that was in front of me and just being a big dummy and having fun. And that's all part of it.
There was a little window. I stopped everything in 212 and then I was still on medication for
anxiety and stuff. That little monkey turned into a gorilla on my back in a nutshell. And I went
to a rehab kind of place, got all cleaned up. And right around 2019, I was just really getting bored
to going to meetings and hearing everybody's sob stories. I was just like, okay, cool, we need a hobby.
I instantly just said, okay, I'm going to go get an RC truck. I went and got an RC truck.
It was a scale RC thing at the time. People were hiking with them. It was a great community,
very positive. When you could be wrenching on a little, when normally you'd be parting,
now I'm just wrenching on this little truck. And it was a great outlet. I just needed something to fill that
void. It's a beautiful and a crazy thing over time what happened. So what that did for me was basically
I sat down a phone on a water bottle and I made a little video and I posted it and then boom, it blew up.
So that became this addiction, not just because it was a hobby, but it was really this just void and I had to
keep doing it. It really was another monkey turning into a gorilla, but it was a healthy one. So what that did
for me was pretty much just put me outside 365 days a year, literally rain or shine, any holiday
because I wanted the algorithm to love me early on,
and I'm just trying to be that guy,
just having a bunch of followers and having fun.
And then I was going to start a little YouTube thing.
Anyways, basically, it was just being outside.
But where I was at in 2019 at the time, it was low desert.
So you have to go on these little cruises to go find the real boulders
to go rock crawling with these little things.
And it was cool.
And it still is.
It's basically making little videos that look completely realistic.
And you got these little trucks.
And then when you're done getting all this footage,
You hop in your vehicle and you go home.
But, you know, it wasn't until little by little as that page was building and I'm outside and I'm sunburned or it's pouring rain in the winter.
And I would slowly start to get a little feel.
I never thought about Sasquatch or nothing.
But I found myself often to find these rocks.
I'd have to be miles and miles away from homes and stuff.
So there was a particular moment that I had.
I'm out there and basically just filming and frustrated.
I'm trying to get the shot, trying to get as much footage as I can.
this new particular item or these new axles that somebody was giving me for free making like a little
commercial form so it was almost like a job too it was great but little by little i started feeling
watched and that started why am i feeling paranoid out here it's beautiful and that started like that
occasionally i'd maybe get a little pebble that would just fall out of nowhere and i'd be like what was
that i mean i wasn't really open to that sort of thing at the time so i'm just going okay maybe that was just
a bird flew over with a big old pebble i don't know there wasn't until this particular time where
I saw these rocks over this area of tall brush.
By the way, excuse my terminology.
My brother hunts a lot, but I'm not much into hunting,
so I don't know terminology about certain types of brush and stuff.
But basically, the brush was probably seven, eight feet,
maybe nine feet tall in this big old area.
But beyond that brush, I saw these big old white beautiful rocks.
I'm like blue sky, white rocks, tires gripping.
We'll make a nice little satisfying video.
Maybe get a bunch of views just being my nerdy self,
trying to stay out of trouble.
And that's where it started.
So I went into there.
And right when I entered with my truck, and it's funny looking back, I can only imagine
these Sasquots and maybe a young one going, what is that?
What is that guy doing out here with this little truck?
And I don't know.
I just always got this feeling, but it wasn't until this place that I walked in.
And instead of just going around and walking through right away after about seven feet in,
I found myself in this kind of a tunnel.
Instead of just going straight to the rocks, excited like an eight-year-old, I stopped
and I'm looking around, and I felt like I was in an area where something passes through.
And I'm really smart with mountain lion vibes and feet footprint and whatnot, or hoofprints
and whatnot, but it was all pressed down.
It was definitely something humans didn't do.
And then my brain was trying to calculate it.
I'm like, maybe the wind comes through here in a weird spiral and causes a big old tunnel.
I don't know.
But I remember right away just finding these things in these little areas where there might have
been a little pile to the left of one time there was in this little tunnel.
And the tunnel might have, I call it a tunnel, but it's really just brush that was probably something passing through there a lot.
And we'll get to that.
But at the time, I'm real confused.
And I would see these random little piles.
And I'm thinking hobos and stuff.
But where I'm talking about, and we'll get into the map here in a second where these locations are.
But, you know, where I was at, there's no homeless people.
There's no, there's only maybe retired people at these scattered houses up in the hills near these mountains out behind the desert.
And right away, I saw this little pile of there was a little pile of there was a little.
a Buddha and there's some little old hot wheels and some random things. But there was a few different
piles of this every 10 feet. And I was like, whatever. I didn't think Sasquatch at the time.
But I'm definitely, that was one of the first experiences where I'm definitely feeling odd and off.
And I remember that whole time, I think I just filmed my truck for 10 minutes to get a clip to
edit later. And I just went home. It was like a stomach kind of weird vibe. And looking back,
I can easily see how they would pass through from one location to the other, maybe late at night.
I don't know.
I just, this is one of the reasons we're doing the show here.
I have many things I can't explain, but it was definitely some sort of pathway where they go,
and I'll explain that here in a minute of the map what I'm talking about.
And again, at the time, I didn't know that, but just bizarre, really bizarre feeling.
Again, I'm still sober to this day, but even then I was just going, what is this feeling I got?
This is strange.
I'm not scared.
I've come up here before, but I've never come across this particular area.
And that was fascinating.
The more I've learned up until this point is we learn that they migrate, chains around.
Sure, they might go through different portals and stuff.
But I don't know, as far as I'm concerned, they got blood, they got beating hearts,
and they're just magnificent little ninjas out there.
I don't even know.
So, yeah, that was one of the first little moments of weirdness.
I have everything written down here.
I hope that's all making sense.
No, no, it absolutely does.
And I think there's more going on in these southern nations.
California areas that we know of, but just to make sure, I guess, so you're, I do some stuff on
TikTok. And so you're one of the guys that you're making videos where it looks like a little
Jeep and you're, it's like a crawl and you're going up rocks and bridges and stuff.
Correct. And I've met other people who do this and they have some cool stories too and about
this sort of thing. But I'm a loner, lone wolf these days. But yeah, essentially it was that.
Even as I was doing it and making those videos, I'm going, it really is a program that I have to keep running.
There was like one day I was sick and I didn't film. I remember, I just felt weird. So it became this thing.
But yeah. And in a nutshell, the page got swiped off and I'm starting a new one. But man, it was so fun for a while.
I just had all these little things in the back pocket in my back of my brain that I just wanted to share because I really was.
I was out there constantly. The rain shots were the best ones. Yeah.
That stuff is very cool.
I do watch some of that on TikTok.
It's very, at first you're like, this is weird.
Then you're like, oh, this is actually really cool.
Oh, it's great.
And I look at it like a little robot next to you because if you're walking and you're hiking,
this little tiny truck brings me just, this is a perfect example,
it brings me to these areas I would never normally go.
And sometimes there's a lot of beautiful stories too.
And I'm looking around at this view and I'm looking down at this truck.
I'm like, without you, I wouldn't even be out here right now.
So this little truck, these little trucks I would build that became this little, I don't know, I'm pretty sure they would scare away more rattlesnakes up ahead if I'm driving the truck 10 feet in front of me to a mountain is probably going to be freaked out by a little electronic thing.
It was also kind of a safety net. That's what allowed me to go anywhere. I was never scared of animals because I knew I had this loud little crawler truck or whatever with me at the time.
And that usually gave me some confidence. But the more I'm learning, I'm like, I was probably attracting all this saskwash.
They're watching this guy with this truck and he's crouched down with a little square thing in his hand.
doing but I don't know it's just it's wild it's fun but yeah it's it's so this all started in a nutshell
it's the lower desert so we'll go palm desert and from palm desert you go south and you go up to
74 and I'm sure at some point you'll pull out a map and know what I'm talking about but I'll just
give you a debrief on this location so where this all started 2019 was like 74 and then right
behind the 74 you got to come up out of the low desert and you boom mountains and and
just thick forest and it's cool but it's just there's no building there's no houses out that way a certain way for a while
then you come down out westmore and boom you're right it and you slam into idawild which is known for the idle beast
i'll have a story about that here in a little bit and then if you go excuse my map language by the way i'm
switched around here but i'm pretty sure yeah from idawild let me go out to where you were you mentioned in the
beginning which is big bear like arrowhead etc and then on the middle of all that you guys
Yucca Valley, Joshua Tree. And that's predominantly where we're at. And then out east, we have 29
palms. And a man by the name of Tim Baker, I don't know if you're familiar with him, white beard,
very knowledgeable about Sasquatch. He's on a few shows on YouTube. This particular man expanded
for a little while on 29 palms and how they have a bent rifle, apparently, in their lobby or something.
I don't know, but I know that there's definitely some stories that span there, too, about the
Sasquatch, saskwatch messing with the base out there.
And UFOs and all that stuff is pretty normal out here.
But I was fascinated to hear Tim Baker mentions some things about 29 Palms way back in the day.
And 29 Palms is way more desert deer and drier than where I'm at.
And even where I was at before.
And that alone was just like, God, it just fascinated me.
And from what I've heard and what I've learned, I'm pretty sure the angry ones are the rogue ones.
They go far away from the forest, in my particular opinion, just to get away and eat deer and hide and stuff.
So they're a lot more angry, in a sense, if I had to guess predominantly, the ones he's mentioned out in 29 palms.
And yeah, that leaves me right in the center and Yucca.
And then strange things started to happen because at the end of 219, 220, I moved up to near Joshua Tree Yucca Valley.
And yeah, then some more things started happening, but I can't really explain.
But yeah, if you get a chance, look into Tim Baker.
There's many interviews of him on there.
And this guy, he calls them boogers.
He's one of those guys at old school, but it's cool.
He talks about how he was working at the base out there, and they get real active when they
try to shoot off a rocket or do some stuff.
They notice there was more activity when that would happen.
And this sort of thing was fascinating me, because I'm going, how does a saskwash,
now that I'm learning, I'm going, how does the saskwatch survive in the desert, blah, blah, blah.
I think it was your episode a while back that there was a lady briefly that I think it was on
your show.
and she was, of all places, talking about Vegas.
And her and her husband were driving, and they saw one down in this water golly,
on a hundred more than a hundred degree day.
They saw one in broad daylight.
So this is what I mean.
It's a cool topic.
I'm always fascinated by it.
But the one thing that kept grabbing me was like, I got to know more about this desert thing.
What are they doing out in the desert?
And then I started putting puzzles together, the tunnel.
Oh, Ida Wild.
Oh, triangle.
Right.
I'm like, okay.
So they probably pass through certain times of the year of D.
run and the deer run out here or if they're squat in the forest out by big bear they get into
some beef and they have to the big rogue ones that have two toes i don't know they i just have a
feeling they they come out this way it's very complex but yeah yeah it is very interesting i did
have an individual come on the show it was a short one about because it was a ticot thing
about how they saw pretty much what people call yucka man this was down in desert hot
spring so near Joshua tree but a little bit to the west that's i'm so glad you brought that up because i
have my notes here on this little quote-unquote map triangle thing i keep mentioning i left out dhs now dhs you
got palm desert where this all started where i mentioned in the low desert yucca valley is high desert
hour drive half hour drive is okay and then you got idawild dhs is pretty much in the center of all this
and the thing that fascinated me more when i when that desert saskatch thing came to my brain especially
hearing Tim Baker talk, I was like, okay, let's think, sure enough, right on the map in DHS, there's a story.
And where this guy's talking about is literally sand dunes where I used to fill my RC cars with paddle tires.
So that was great with my GoPro's and the slow motion stuff.
It wasn't always crawling.
I'd go out there and take a trophy truck and throw some paddles on it, get some slow-mo shots.
But it was fascinated to hear that in 19, I want to say 1970, maybe 73, I could be off there.
You'll see it on the Bigfoot map.
In DHS, there's a man in his Volkswagen that basically his Volkswagen low beams were only at a certain point.
But he saw this huge thing that I'm pretty sure he said it looked like a piece of plywood or a refrigerator, I forget.
But this huge hairy thing that he noticed that he saw down there.
And you can read up on that.
You'll see it in Desert Hot Springs, or Desert Hot Springs, California on the map there.
But as I'm learning more from a helicopter view, if you will, DHS is right in the middle.
One could have been passing from Idaho wild in the middle of the night going up to the high desert
for some deer, could have been walking through to Lake Arrowhead.
By the way, this whole desert topic, I know half the comments are going to be like, yeah,
take another hit pal.
Trust me, I was the same way, but man, I saw how serious Tim Baker was on these things.
I'm starting to collect more little interesting things that were happening.
And I'm like, I think it's quite the opposite.
And yeah, the Yucca, man, that's the government or whatever is real quick to block that out
and just make a silly little thing with a man in a suit and blah, blah, blah.
but that's got a stem from some real stuff.
And it's just, it's eerie even because the hair that they're describing is that sand color.
And I can see how quickly it would just blend, it would blend in really well.
It's so, yeah, you got the Yucca Man one.
You got the one in DHS.
And I think there's a few.
There's definitely a bunch of dots around Idaho, a bunch of dots out more by a big bear and all that.
And yeah, we're right in the middle of it all.
It's pretty wild.
It's cool.
I don't let it surround my brain 24-7, but when I do it now,
I'm definitely a little more respectful.
I walk up right when I get out of my truck.
And there might not even be any tall trees around.
I still say, hey, guys, just here to observe and enjoy the land, get some fresh air.
I don't mean anybody any harm.
I still do that because I've heard so many little hippie ladies on the Bigfoot show say that's good to do that.
So I just take little notes.
I don't want to disrespect these things.
You have a story on your show where this guy, broad daylight, he was hiking in that one with two toes.
There was a female he was staring at, and this one with two toes walks up to him,
and it's screaming on it, screaming at him, and he's curled up in a ball, like broad daylight on a trail.
Things happen, but I just have a feeling, though, if there's any up here, they're probably
the rogue ones, until I get to a story that happened not long after I moved up here that reminded
me, I don't think it's all rogue ones.
So what, you mentioned that you've experienced some weird things in Yucca Valley?
Yeah, I moved up here. We moved up here at the, maybe 220-ish.
and New Home, this is still not watching much of the whole lot of the Bigfoot stuff yet,
just getting settled in, still doing the making the movies and stuff.
There are weird things that I couldn't explain.
I'm about to mention.
It usually happened in winter, springish.
It's just a thing.
And that makes perfect sense because it was wintertime and springtime that I was hiking maybe,
I don't know, two miles behind my house here.
Again, from a helicopter view right behind Yucca Valley to maybe the north and all around,
on a map that it's pretty much just miles and miles of mountains and just all kinds of nothing,
right? It was like this thing that I started noticing more. And in winter and spring, there was
more weirdness. And I was up there and I saw these two, I'm not good with names of these animals.
Sometimes you can laugh. That's all right. I'm an old burnout musician, filmmaker guy. But it's funny
because there's these two dears that ran by me, broad daylight. And I'm a big guy. And the deer's backends
were probably up to my shoulder.
And that told, they ran right by me.
They split right around me.
Sure, I'm outlying something chasing them, maybe our hairy friend, who knows.
But it was crazy how they ran by me, but I instantly realized where I moved.
I'm like, it's a little more wild up here in the high desert.
Okay, okay.
I just put that in the back of my brain in a nutshell, but I noticed I would see more animals
that time of year.
And then I'm putting things together.
I'm like, it seems like maybe they just, all the campers come out to big barren, snowboarders,
snow bunnies.
Maybe they come out this way in the winter to get away from.
the humans. I don't know. It makes perfect sense.
Absolutely. And you've mentioned Idlewild a few times, which I have heard of that, but I'm not
extremely familiar with that. I haven't talked to anyone about that area either yet.
What are things that you've heard from that area?
I'll tell you what, if we, I might, this was my first time doing one of these things.
So I kind of tree branched off on a different thing there. So Yucca, yes, I moved up here and we'll
get right into Idaho wild because the story, a little.
line that I have here. There was a couple of interesting things that happened out there. And that was
right around when I got more into watching these shows and stuff. Okay. Yucca, high desert. Here we go.
I don't know if this was a month or two into the maybe even a little longer into this house.
One night, and then by the way, there's no, this time of year, there was Airbnb's just starting at the time.
There's no part of here. There's no people up late at night up here. It's all retired people at this
part of the town. It's very quiet and mellow. This is just one thing I had to write down. I'm told it's
good to do those things, those things you can't explain, and we're sleeping.
One night past, my house is set up from a helicopter view again.
It's set up to where a coyote, for instance, could run into the side of my house,
going through the big backyard, which is maybe quarter acreish,
and he could come around and go back out the front.
I'm just giving you a little visual of what that is, or how my place is set up.
One night, there was a little random thing where it was dead winter, cold.
You can hear the occasional owl hoots out there.
love it. And I was just going to sleep. And something ran by the window enough to not just shake the
bed frame and shake the window and shake the wall a little bit, but it was so bizarre because it
wasn't like a cucklunk, like a horse, or which would just really be a deer or maybe a pack of
coyotes or something. This was basically the sound of something that might have been maybe,
and I know, I just, I have to share this. This had to been something that was maybe, who, three,
four feet tall, but had to have been maybe 300 pounds, 200 pounds. But the strange thing about this
was, and I had to remember this is where it all started, was the footsteps were very fast, but they
were so close together and they were bipedal. So it was like, and there's videos that have leaked
recently, whether they're real or not, I don't know, but we've heard a lot of stories when they,
when they run like spiders or they get down on their fingers. So in my brain, I'm going, okay,
maybe the, because we're surrounded by mountains, I'm looking at a mountain right here outside of our house.
and maybe the parents were up at the top
and send a couple of little young ones down there
to chase some rabbits and get some meat,
maybe run through the houses.
I don't know, but it's enough to write down
because there was no people that time of year.
It was middle of the night,
and whatever was heavy enough to shake the side of the house
and kept me up for a while.
I was, what the heck was that?
So that was just something where it started a little weirdness,
and I'm slowly more and more realizing
I'm in a lot more wild of an area, if that makes sense.
And then right around then there was those cold, windy nights
It's dead December, January. It's known to snow up here, too. And by the way, too, I was always told
where there's deer and stuff. There could be Sasquot. So then my light bulb was slowly going on at this time.
I wasn't watching the shows quite yet as much, but there was a cold, windy nights. And there's no
scomps up here. You can research that. But a couple different times I'd go outside for a smoke in the
front, and there would just be this putrid smell. It wasn't trash day or nothing. It was just this
strange things. So in my personal hypothesis, I feel like certain times of the year they come out here,
get away from all the snow bunnies and whatever else. Maybe they come out here to maybe train their young to do something different.
I don't know. But it's definitely something where I think they definitely lurk through in those cold nights.
And that would be such a cool painting of this big old rogue one that's just standing there overlooking at all these houses and stuff.
Because right where our line is where our houses are at, the mountain start. It just goes from miles and miles.
And it's still high desert, but it's technically still mountainy.
That makes sense.
So that's when it's just these little strange things were starting to happen a little bit
that enough for me to remember.
And so, yeah, there's always a creepy feeling too back there.
And I used to scrap and be crazy.
There was nothing like I was scared of anything else except for just this feeling.
Your stomach would bubble in some of these areas.
Kind of like a vibe just to get out.
Okay, so right around then I went for a cruise.
I started watching some of the shows and I did a little research.
and apparently I had a while, yeah, there's a little talk about it there.
There's even a little shop that's all kind of Sasquatch stuff.
And you Google it.
They're very quick to just put a guy in a costume and make you just turn away.
But it turns out that there's a, I was at a gas station, for instance.
And I was just getting the bug, getting the light bulb on about this topic.
And it was a drive I wanted to do.
Let's go check it out type thing.
And I pulled into this gas station, nice lady, an old hippie lady.
And I said, you ever hear any sound?
Any weird cries at night that you can't really explain.
And she was right away.
She lit up like a light and she just went on about all kinds of weird sounds and things they hear up there.
And she was really adamant about these green lights that they see at the top and energy and that sort of thing.
And this mountain there, which is trippy because right after that mountain, it's boom.
On the other side, it's Palm Springs, low desert, hot, very hot.
But yeah, you go high up enough.
There's snow up there all.
So Idaho wild, it's very eerie.
There was a very cool and beautiful, by the way, too.
But any time I was there, I'd step maybe, I don't know, 100 yards.
I just, I don't know, dude, I just, I want to go.
So I just light a cigarette, walk back to my truck and just go.
It's just a feeling.
But there was a time, and I had a while, I'm glad you brought that up.
I grabbed a little rock that looked like a crystal.
I'm like, that'll be cool in the bathroom.
Cool, great.
This was a nice day.
Let's go, grab a rock to remember this day.
I went to clear my head.
I was going through a bunch of stuff.
One of those things.
Just go for a drive.
Let's check it out, maybe have an adventure, and come home.
And throughout this time, I'm watching some shows.
but there was this feeling, man.
It was like, you took something that's not yours.
You need to return that.
And I know that's silly.
I have rocks that I collect from hikes and stuff,
but this particular rock was like a vibe.
I don't know.
It was in my head.
It wasn't quite voice-speak kind of vibe,
but it was more like almost like a grandpa
kind of giving you that vibe shame on you.
You shouldn't have took that without asking grandma.
It was one of those things.
So I remember the next day I grabbed that rock
and I drove all the way back out there, literally, and I didn't even bring an RC that day.
I just went out there, and I parked, and I set the rock down right where I got it, and I put my hand up,
and I said, no hard feelings. And it might have been the craziest, weirdest thing in the world,
but I tell you what, my shoulders felt way lighter after doing it, but it didn't end there,
because right before you exit that area, it's gorgeous. You're going right from people to boom.
It's just forest and gorgeous. And it was just,
mesmerizing. So I remember stopping at this little tourist thing and where this little tourist thing is a little
concrete path and people can look at a little map and take a picture and behind them is just this huge field
of pine trees and it's gorgeous, something out of a Bob Ross painting. And so that was the last little
area to check it out before we went back on the freeway and headed back home. I remember standing there
broad daylight, a lady and her daughter just was leaving the place. They got in their car and left and boom,
You can hear a mouse fart from two miles away.
It was so quiet.
I'm standing there for a second.
I'm looking around and it's just beautiful.
I'm getting ready to walk back to the car.
And I hear a crunch.
And it wasn't a boulder falling on something.
It was the calmest day ever.
Didn't even hear any birds at that moment.
But in my brain, and this took a while after, I was like, maybe he was just standing.
One of them was standing right there, which would have been right off of the concrete ledge
where this thing is at, it drops down about 12 feet.
But if one was so inclined, he could have been.
been easily sending one of the other ones to, I don't know, I can't explain it, but I can tell you
that there was a loud kind of crunch and then almost like a half crunch, like something was standing
right there. If that's their home, they know everybody coming in and out, they're probably
going to leave a couple watchers right there on the entrance or the exit, I should say. And yeah,
I remember that. And it was almost like a nod. I remember driving home and I almost got had that
feeling like it was saying, thank you. Maybe it's just to them. They're probably ancient, obviously,
and taking something as simple as that, could have really rattled their feathers.
a little bit. I don't know. I just did it and I feel better about doing it. So that's my
little Idaho Wild story as far as that little part's concerned. I think that was good that you did
take it back even for your own sanity, really. I hear stuff like that all the time. People
take something from Hawaii and it's never good. You got a, you don't take something from different
places for sure. It's very interesting. But I'm looking at pictures of Idol Wild and it's definitely
got an interesting almost Shasta vibe to it. It feels like it's just one of those towns that are really
cool. Very much. And it's so popular. There's going to be people that hike there every day here
in this that are like, oh, we hike there every day. It's fine. I'm just telling you how I felt there.
It was just a feeling, man. It was almost like back, I was one of those kids back in the day that we lived in a haunted house and I was
open to those sort of things. There was a lady that watched me sleep in her gown and that was creepy.
And I don't know. Maybe they just nudge certain people a certain way, or maybe I sense that they were there.
without knowing it, but I remember, I didn't walk far into there. Big, beautiful trees, too.
And I was looking up at tree breakster. There's a bunch of them, but you don't know if it's
from the wind or what. So I can't really put that into anything, but I'm going, God, this is the
perfect place. It could easily, you know, just become, yeah, so Idaho's got its own little
world, really, over there. It is. It's like an old, you almost feel like you're in NorCal or
Washington over there. You've also mentioned we had brought up Cressline and Lake Arrowhead, which I've,
I myself, I've gotten probably at least two or three accounts from that area.
So that seems to be pretty active area, I would say.
It's fascinating.
I'm glad you brought that up because now that we've talked about that looking forward,
looking behind my house here from the kit from the back on,
I can literally see Big Bear here from my window.
And it's almost, I doubt it's Big Bear.
Sure, it's huge, but I'm sure these things are breeding as we're learning.
And God, they've got to migrate on occasion to go find big deer.
Like I just mentioned, there's a couple big old deer up here that I seen one time out there hiking.
So I just feel like, yeah, they come from there.
But who knows, the more I'm sure you're learning, too, they're known to travel.
Obviously, they're known to be bigger and healthier the farther up north you go compared to Florida or something.
But we've heard big ones down there, too.
It's strange.
I'm pretty sure they just migrate.
That night, they go through these big areas that they know, nobody else knows.
This tunnel thing that I found one time, I still can't describe even explain that at all.
There was no sign of hedge clippers, no nothing.
It was like something big was just walking through there often, pushing down everything,
like a little secret little pathway.
So I'm pretty sure they go from Big Bear, they walk all the way through Yucca,
maybe out to 29 palms.
They go back down through DHS.
They could go straight through DHS to Idaho and go right back out to out of the 74, I mentioned too.
Gosh, from a helicopter view, sure it's the desert and it's hot.
You got the high desert where it starts to cool off.
And then, yeah, just right out an hour.
or so out west-ish, there's got big bear and all that crest line and that girl who sued the
county or whatever and she won. They know there's stuff out there. I'm actually just starting to look
up more if I go somewhere like that. I'm learning they're up there sometimes. Yeah, it's just fascinating.
I believe you're referring to Claudia Ackley, right? She's from that area. Yeah, I think so.
It was a little clipping that they have about that. I wish I had more information as far as the 29 palms things and all that. But maybe this
wake up a couple others to come out with their stories out here. I just, again, I never hear people
talk about it yet. It's so there. They're so here, obviously. You can look at the light board on the
Bigfoot map. They're all over the place. And I'm just like, that's strange. Why does the desert
keep getting shut out of these conversations to me? That's the most fascinating one. So I don't know,
my hypothesis, yeah, they travel through to get away or I don't know. I don't think just a random father of a
family is going to randomly just walk out here and start messing with a Navy base or a military base out there,
unless it was rogue and it was just, I don't know, it's just fascinating stuff. It's wild. There's a,
there was a morning out here. This is one of the semi-recent ones. There was a morning out here where,
you know, lots of coyotes and everything out here. And there was a morning out here with my coffee.
And I'm just setting my coffee down. I already heard the coyotes chirping while I was pouring my
coffee. You know how they cry in a big pack over here on the mountain, which is probably a mile or two
tops where they could have been? And I was like, all right, look at the,
those little guys are up and doing their thing. Boom, there was this huge roar over the coyotes
enough to make me shake the coffee and go, whoa, and I felt it in my chest. And I was like,
okay, cool. It took me a second to program or to feel, what was that? I'm still waking up and I'm
going, and I knew right away it wasn't a dog because that dog would have continued barking.
It was one loud roar, like a shut up type thing. And it was enough to reach me all the way over on my
porch here and shake my chest a little bit. And I went right through the whole.
whole dictionary of animals in my brain and I'm like that was none of those. I almost thought
maybe a mountain lion, but even let's say something barked at those coyotes, whatever it was
has to dominate a huge pack of coyotes because right after that sound, it was dead quiet.
What else could put a whole pack of coyotes in check with one loud roar that reaches all the
way to this guy's porch while he's having his coffee? I don't know if you let me know in the comments.
A lot of people will say this, that, and the other. But wouldn't the coyotes continue to bark a few times?
after that, maybe a couple puppies still chirping after a loud shut up from another animal,
but it was almost like something was like just stop. The sun's coming up. You guys need to stop right now.
I know, it was still dark out. Barely, the sun was coming up too. I left that out.
That was eerie. That was something I had to write down because that shook me to the point where,
yeah, I felt it in my chest, just like your people tell the, your fans tell other stories on here.
And that was strange because that was just vibration. It wasn't just the noise.
It was almost like it sent out this huge shock wave, like a video game, like two miles out from it and everything in that past gets felt.
Like, I don't know.
It was cool.
It was dead silent for the rest of the morning after that with my whole coffee.
I didn't hear one shirt.
So if you know what can shut up a whole pack of coyotes let us know in the comments, I'm curious.
I got to know that one.
That's been bugging me for a while.
Yeah, you hear that kind of thing.
And that always makes you wonder.
It just doesn't make sense that it could be anything else.
You hear something that loud.
I've heard something similar up in Oregon,
and it really does, it messes with it.
It makes you stop.
It's crazy to hear something that loud.
Do a roar or a scream or whatever it is that you hear the equivalent.
Yeah, it wasn't Ohio-Hal type stuff?
This was like a loud, again, excuse my language,
I don't know the thing on here, but it was just,
it really was like a loud just shut up and he stopped.
But it was enough to just, it was a loud.
It was definitely like a maleish scream.
It wasn't like three voices, the high, the low.
It was one, maybe two, double, just octave, just enough to almost just push me back a little bit.
And yeah, that was bizarre.
And again, it was cooler out.
It was one of those things where, sure, sun's coming up.
They know about that little row of houses right there.
Things are acting up around that time.
Maybe, again, maybe they are kind of protectors.
And I've heard a lot of people say that.
Maybe they run their own program up there.
And if things are getting too rowdy,
They feel good.
Just putting everything in check.
Keep it down for the humans.
I don't know.
But that's definitely one thing I still cannot explain at all.
It's just bizarre.
And there's no doubt in my mind.
They pass through here and stuff.
But again, it's just, I wanted to open up that door to see who else comes forward with
some cool desert stories.
Again, nobody ever expands on it.
I want to hear more about the 29 Palm stories out there.
There's a ton of them.
And they go way back in the day.
Oh, absolutely.
I think you may have mentioned before.
Did you say that you have.
other people that you know in the same community of RC crawlers that they've had things happen
as well that are out of the ordinary? Most of them chuckle and laugh on the subject has changed really
quick, but when you get any of those individuals by themselves, people just open up and tell you
things. And I don't know, yeah, I've heard a few different people say that there's things they
can't explain around a certain bend, big old bipedal splashes walking through and they're there
with their RC trucks crawling on some rocks and something else is basically saying,
hello, kids, get out of here with your toys.
This is my area, just because we know how quiet they can be.
And they know that's their living room.
This is their living room, I should say.
So they know how to spark a little fear to get somebody out of there,
or they can be very quiet as they've been known to walk through all kinds of areas.
And you can't hear a darn thing on fall day with dry leaves everywhere.
They're just so ninja.
It's fascinating.
I don't know.
But yeah, there's been a lot of those sort of stories.
where somebody hears something splashing.
I've heard the pebble ones a few times where there's no cliff above.
And my buddy, Alex, he had a couple pebbles hit it near his ankle one time.
He mentioned briefly, but it put my light bulb on.
I'm like, all right, okay, I've had that happen.
You know what I mean?
But guys being guys, I don't know when we're all together, you don't really expand on it too much.
But I think a lot of these big foot things are stuff we do when we're by ourselves watching our shows at night.
I don't know.
Absolutely.
John, this has been a really interesting conversation.
I think it will hopefully open up a lot of people that may not have reached out before.
So I want to say thank you for reaching out and for having this conversation.
I want to make sure that we were able to chat about everything that you'd wanted to bring to the show today.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
Just give me a chance to share a couple of these things.
When I'm watching the episode, there's not a whole bunch of action.
I'll still watch or listen.
But I wish I had more.
I just, again, yeah, I hope just kind of puts on that light bulb little motivation for people to come
forward with some of those Class A sidings and stuff. I just had to share, put the light bulb on,
that there's definitely a little triangle out here of activity that goes way back. And I encourage
anybody to look into that when you're bored. It's fun and cool. Since then, my last page got deleted,
but I'm starting a new one up. And I'm still out there. It really is 365 days a year type of thing.
It keeps me out of trouble. So I'll definitely be collecting things over time if anything happens,
and I'll definitely be sharing them. And what's the name of your current channel, if people
want to check out what RC crawlers are and they haven't seen it before.
This will be cool because we all have a nerdy side.
So yeah, come by and check it out.
It's Rabbit Lodge Racing.
You can just go at Rabbit Lodge Racing.
I got to change that to media.
I might just leave it to racing, but at Rabbit Lodge Racing YouTube channel,
I'm going to be starting my videos here towards the beginning of winter.
We'll get that page up and going again.
It's just all entertainment.
You can sit back and watch it while you eat.
If there's something really cool that happens, I might mention it on there.
but this is more just for fun visuals to check out, maybe inspire you for a build or something.
So yeah, come on by, give me a follow and get ready for some cool videos.
That's awesome.
Thanks so much for coming on the show today, John.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, love your show, man.
And thank you so much for having me and you have yourself a good rest of the day.
Hello.
Hi, how are you?
Good.
What brings you up tonight?
I think I contacted you a while back about my experience, and I keep having them.
And it's just pretty cool.
And I thought I'd tell my story tonight if you don't mind.
Yeah, go right ahead.
Okay.
So I live in Nebraska and they're usually not said to be around this area.
And I think it's because this wide open space is not a lot of tree, not a lot of coverage,
and things like that.
But when I moved to the area that I live in now, my sister-in-law, which she's,
She wasn't my sister-in-law at the time, said she saw one.
And I had that always in the back of my head.
You just go on with your life and we're like, okay.
I was driving one night.
I used to work for the railroad as a driver to drive engineers to their trains.
And I was coming back home and I was going down into this little valley where a huge river goes through it.
And as I'm nearing, I'm on the phone with my mom.
So my mom and my daughter, they're still up at this light hour, can hear me.
And all of a sudden, I see something.
And I'm like, what is that?
So it's on the side of the road and it takes one step and then all of a sudden it's in the middle of the road.
And this is a two-lane highway.
And then it looks at me.
And it wasn't fear as much as just.
awe of how fast and how big it was.
And then it took one more step and it was already gone.
And I said to my mom, I'm like, I think I just saw a bigfoot.
And she's, no, you didn't.
I'm like, I seriously think I saw a big foot.
And you know how everybody is, no, you didn't see one or whatever.
I followed the river.
There's several big rivers around me.
So I would occasionally go down to a river.
I drive when I get stressed.
And there's this little bridge that is out in the middle of nowhere that nobody goes except for a farmer that has a crop back there.
But he doesn't even irrigate it.
He just plants it and forgets it.
And I go and sit on that bridge.
And I've been communicating or seeing this saying.
same one, I believe it's the same one, about every two to three months.
I've left it gifts before, and I've had a skull given back to me and things like that.
I know it prefers like plush animals, like stuffed animals, like really bright, vivid ones,
which are, which I would think is weird because where would they hide it.
I have had that experience about every two months since five years ago.
I never feel threatened, but I also don't try to look at it in the eye and I don't try
to initiate contact.
But I do know that he, she, I don't even know what it is, travels the same river system,
and I can find them at different parts of the river at different
times I can actually map out where it's going to be because it has like a game trail and it follows the rib
this is really cool. So you're actually having visual sightings over the last five years. You're just
not doing. I do have some foot feet print. Okay. And hair. I have all of that because it one time when it
jumped a barbed by your fence, I think I got caught or I got nicked, but I've got so much evidence that you can't, there's no
way you can tell me that it wasn't what I saw.
What is the hair like that you have?
It's very coarse, very stinky when I first got it.
Thank God I put it in a baggy, so the baggie still smells like it.
It's very coarse and long.
It feels hollow, like lighter, but thicker.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely, yeah.
And it has like varying colors of brown.
on it. It's really weird. Like it, when it, I don't know how to describe it, when you move the follicle, like there's different colors throughout the hair shaft.
It's really weird. Is that looking at it through a microscope or just looking at it with your naked eye?
Microscope. I got very into looking at it because I couldn't believe I found it.
That's awesome. There is a DNA study being done.
done out of North Carolina state where they're taking in any evidence that people want to send in
that's related to Bigfoot.
I would love to.
Yeah, I would love to send it in because I also know one time when I parked my car and went for a walk because there's this abandoned barn.
And I was just looking at it because it's really cool and I like to find like old horseshoes and stuff.
When I came back, there was a handprint on my window.
And there was no way no human made that handprint on my window.
I don't know where it was because I never saw it that day.
But there was definitely a handprint on my window.
If you-
If you-
It was really weird.
I don't know that he or she though, so.
There's a name I'm gonna, if you can write this down,
the name of the individually need to look up is,
Darby Orca.
Okay.
And it's D-A-R-B-Y-O-R-C-U-T-T-T.
Okay.
And he has a website where you can request to send in a sample for them to test the DNA on.
Okay.
I just have those, the picture of the handprint, and I couldn't, so I had to get a picture
of the feet prints, but you will find them.
down in the river system where I go and meet up everyone's all with it.
It's never acted angry or violent towards me, but I do know that if I get out of my car,
I don't feel safe. Does that make sense? It's like I'm in its area. If I'm in my car,
I just, I act really respectful when I try not to make eye contact with it or whatever.
But I'm not going to purposely anger it to find out if it would be sweet or not.
Because I always want to treat it like a, I would treat like, I would say a bigger male or a great ape where you don't want to look at them directly in the eye to challenge them.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
But I also know that it's never been threatening.
There's only one time it was
And that was when
He heard it first
I don't know how far away it was
But he showed his
I don't even
I'm saying he or she I don't know
It showed its teeth
And then about two minutes later
A car went by
Okay
On an opposite road
I don't know how he heard it
But he heard it
Way better than I ever did
What did the teeth look like?
Yellow
There was definite some canines.
They're very blocky, if that makes sense.
Absolutely, it does, yeah.
You go to the Natural History Museum
and you'd like those teeth that the Iceman had
and stuff like that.
I would describe it that, but definitely sharper
and definitely bigger.
A lot of people think that there's not much activity
that happens in Nebraska,
and we don't know where this is in the state,
but there is activity in Nebraska.
anybody about it just because I don't want anybody else finding it.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I've gotten so many reports from, even in the Omaha area, it's crazy what's going on in
that state in certain areas.
There's definitely enough space out here that nobody goes to that would definitely
allow it to be free and wild.
And there's enough hunting, fishing, anything where it could sustain quite a few animals.
that you would never know about it.
Because if you just follow the river system that I live near,
it branches off into 30 different creeks and stuff,
and you'll get lost so fast.
Melissa, I appreciate you coming up and sharing
what you've been experiencing over the years.
Feel free to reach out in the future if stuff continues to happen.
And if you want to report that as well,
my email is bigfoot society at gmail.com.
I definitely, do you have any suggestions on
Because I noticed it appreciated the stuffies and left me like bigger things.
Do I keep interacting with it or do I stop just because I don't want to...
I don't know exactly how to progress because I was told to leave things and then somebody just told me not to.
So I will say this, and this is based on reports I've taken over the years,
if you stop interacting in this way, that there could be issues.
Oh, okay.
So that is something to keep in mind.
And I don't mind giving them things.
I have toys from my children that are, they've obviously outgrown in things.
So I have buckets of those stuff.
And I would say usually that's more if you're leaving food, like a lot of people.
I don't leave food just because I understand what feeding wildlife can entail because
I'm a wildlife rehabilitator.
Okay.
try to mainly deceive like trinkets and things that would make it curious and want to learn,
but not think of me as food.
Yeah, so I think if food's not really involved, then you, it shouldn't be, I don't think it would be as bad.
Usually the reports I take where there's issues are the person has been giving them food and then they stop.
That could be a big thing.
As a wildlife rehabilitative, you can't feed anything out there and you take that.
kind of oath. So that's why I always chose non-food items. Melissa, is this a conversation
that I could put on the Bigfoot podcast that I have? Of course. Awesome. Thank you so much for coming
up. Hopefully we'll hear from you in the future as well. Thank you. And I'll try to get some more
concrete evidence. I did go get poster repairs and things for the foot-feet prints. So
we'll see if I get more evidence. Sounds great. Have a good one.
All right, thank you.
Hi there. How are you?
Hello. I'm good. Thank you.
Good. Were you wanting to come up to share, or do you mind sharing about encounters that you've had?
No, I don't mind sharing. It's not, I don't have a real big long story or anything about it.
But yeah, I was around 11 years old. We lived in Brookdale, California, across the Highway 9 from the Brookdale Lod.
for anybody that's familiar with the area and the Brookdale Creek ran
behind our house and I would play at that creek a whole lot and the creek
ended up feeding into the San Lorenzo River and I would follow the creek
down to the river and I would play in the river like right there where
the creek came into the river and that feeling of somebody watching you and that would happen a lot in that area and on this particular day when i looked
up and started looking around for is there somebody around i saw a face across the san lorenzo river
sticking out of the forest it was the eye
and the bridge of the nose that I first saw and it was very tall and all of that and it just shifted away and I didn't really hear a whole lot of movement because of the river sounds and all of that.
But that was pretty much about as far as that went that day.
But I knew I had saw something.
I knew it wasn't a bear.
I wasn't sure if I was seeing like maybe somebody that literally.
lived in the woods because that was something that happened there.
But it really did stick with me.
And I was like, is that what I saw?
Or was it one of the hermit people?
And I eventually went back probably about sometime within the week after that
and went across the river and went up where I thought it may have gone.
And I did come across.
It was very smelly and came across like where all of the trees were like pushed down or fit to somebody else.
I mean, it just looked like they all fell like that, a different crisscross kind of pattern.
But I did walk down into there and it was very stinky.
And there was like branches and stuff like that.
And I just got that overwhelming scary feeling and took off and never really went back.
But there was definitely a worn pattern, like worn trails.
And where I found the little like lean toy kind of thing, call it that for lack of better description right now.
It was like where a bunch of redwood trees had fallen at one time, and then there was all the limbs were going across it.
Yeah.
So I'm not really sure, but I do believe that was my first time of seeing a Bigfoot.
And then many years later, when I was 19, I was living up on Mount Shasta with a bunch of people.
and we had many and many different times the thumping, the whooping, the rocks being thrown towards our camp.
And one of the times that we were coming back from town down in Shasta and going back up like towards where the lodge used to be.
And there's no way again that this was a bear.
People try to always tell me it was a bear.
And there's no way it was a bear.
There was the arms were swinging, the legs were going.
The ground was that we did stop to look for it, ran across the road in front of the Volkswagen.
And we stopped to see if we could find tracks.
But the way that the dirt was, you couldn't really see anything.
So that, yeah, that was the first one.
was when I was 11 and the other one was 19 when I did see with my eyes and smelt with my nose.
And then there was another time when I was younger, I didn't see anything, but the fear in my brother and stepbrothers' voices and faces
and the rush to get back across the frozen lake, I do believe that's what they saw.
We were in Big Bear and we were staying at a family friends cabin that was on the lake.
And it was winter.
The lake was frozen and we had gone across.
It was like frozen.
People are out there on it all the time.
And there was like this clearing on the mountain across the lake there.
And we took our snow sleds and we were snow sledding and we'd been sledding for a while.
And my brothers had just pushed me down to go down the hill.
And I'm woo-woo, and I'm going for a great ride, and I get to the bottom of the hill.
And I pick up my sled and turn around to go back up the hill.
And I see my brothers running back.
They're running down the hill, and they're yelling, run, and waving their hands.
And I was just stunned for a moment.
and I did turn and start running, and they ended up catching up to me,
and my brother picked me up and threw me on to the sled,
and they grabbed a hold of the rope, and they were just running.
I didn't know what.
I just started crying.
I was really little, and I started crying.
They ran across the lake with me, and I'm like, what's going on,
and all of that.
We get back to the parents, and I'm listening,
to them telling that after they'd slid me down the hill that the Bigfoot ran across from
the one forest to the next forest area from where we were snow sledding right behind me.
They never said that it was like trying to get me or anything like that, but yeah.
So that was like probably, that would have been actually the first time, but I didn't see
what they saw.
Oh my goodness. When you were in Shasta, were you guys camped up on the mountain itself?
Yes, we were like in the area of Cougar Meadows up there.
Oh, is that like Panther Meadows?
Panther Meadows, yes. Yeah, that's that area there. Yeah. So below where the old ski lodge was.
Yep, yeah. I've heard there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in that area.
Yeah. And that's, there's a very small,
like spring kind of creek that goes through that meadows.
And we used to find all kinds of little bones
and all kinds of stuff in there.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I definitely have lots of different stories
of all kinds of, just, I guess, supernatural, paranormal,
whatever category you wanna put it into
when I was living up on Mount Shasta.
Oh, so were you also seeing like lights in the woods or things like that too?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That pretty much a little bit of everything.
I'm about ready to turn 59.
And that was when I was 19 that I was living up there.
It's amazing that where we are now with all the different shows and different stuff, those that have come out, it is what's the word I'm looking for?
It's put me at ease that the things that I've experienced, that it wasn't just something that I was thinking that was happening at the time or stuff like that.
We climbed up to the caves at Shasta, like the big owl eye caves that we all, anybody that pretty much is going to be following Bigfoot.
I'm sure you guys have all heard stories of the caves on Shasta.
and yeah.
You know what?
I don't know if I ever have.
Is there a story about those caves?
From different stories I've heard that people believe that UFOs come and go from those caves.
Right.
Yep.
Yeah.
Just lots of other stuff like that.
Now, when you were in that area, did a lot of people have stories of actually seeing big stuff up in that area?
No, not at the time.
A lot of the stuff that I experienced on my own or with the group, we talked about it amongst ourselves, of course, but it wasn't a lot of the things that I experienced in my younger years.
I never really spoke with about too many other people until probably just this past, what, 15 years or so, 20 years.
Wow.
That's awesome.
that you're able to finally come forward.
You know, where it's become more open.
I had no idea when I lived in San Lorenzo Valley above Santa Cruz, California,
I guess per seeing it on a show, on one of the Bigfoot shows,
there's that museum in Ben Lomond now?
Have you heard of that?
Where is this?
The Bigfoot Museum, Ben Lomon, California.
No, I haven't.
What I heard on that, the Bigfoot show that Ben,
I believe it's Ben Lomon.
It's either Felton or Ben Lomon.
It's along Highway 9 in the San Lorenzo Valley.
And I guess they say that it's one of the most active Sasquatch Bigfoot areas.
I know exactly what you're talking about now.
That was the Bigfoot Discovery Museum and Felton, unfortunately, I believe, has closed just because of lack of funding and the owner, Mike Rugg, was unable to, he pretty much retired from it.
Keep it on.
Yeah, but another one I could recommend is a Cliff Berrickman's Museum up in Boring, Oregon.
The North American Bigfoot Center is incredible.
If you're ever up there, check it out.
I just had no idea until many years after moving away that was known as at a very active Bigfoot area.
Absolutely.
This conversation has been really interesting.
It could use it in my Bigfoot podcast that I have.
Of course.
That's really cool.
Thank you.
Awesome.
Very good.
Hey, feel free to reach out if you have any other things that you experience.
in the future, but this has been really fun talking to you today. Thank you. Thank you for having me up.
Thank you for asking me to come up. Thank you, Bobby. Good stuff. I'll tell you what. This is quite a night.
I'm going for a few hours. I think it is time to call it a night. I know that there might be a few people
that are still wanting to come up.
Feel free if you would like to share any other experiences you have or sightings.
I would love to hear about them.
You can send me an email at Bigfoot Society, gmail.com,
or you can wait until I do another live.
Make sure you are following this account and hit the all notifications on
so you don't miss out on any other future lives.
And I hope to talk to you then.
And thanks to everyone who shared tonight.
and appreciate you all being here.
Have a good one all.
We'll talk to you later.
Hey, Steve, how are you?
Hey, how are you doing?
Hey, doing great.
I saw your comment.
It looks pretty interesting.
Yeah, I bought a new boat, and me, my wife, and my daughter was heading up to Potoka Lake up in Indiana.
We was going up there to camp with a bunch of friends for the 4th of July.
And it was on July 3rd, 1996.
and I was just getting ready to make a turn toward the lake.
And my daughter, but she was probably, I'd say about 14, 12 or 13, 14, something like that at the time.
And I heard her say, look, Daddy, somebody's pet gorilla got out.
And of course, I thought, what the heck?
And I turned around and my wife said, what is that?
and I looked in about a I guess it was probably oh I would say maybe a hundred to 120 yards away
and it was kind of walking along the bank just through the weeds and it was walking away from us
I never did see the face I've seen the whole backside and kind of part of the right side of it
and it was an orangish brown and on the top of its head I guess you would call it
like the main, it had a, I guess what should have been like a white street come down,
like what you would see off a skunk, but it was a real dingy, musky-looking yellow.
You could tell it was dirty, just filthy, dirty.
And it walked.
And of course, back then there was no cell phones for us anyway, no cell phones.
My camera was under the seat of my boat, and the whole top of the boat was loaded with chairs and tents,
and it was all buckled down, so I couldn't get to my camera.
And by the time I got out of my truck, I had a whole line of cars beeping
because I was blocking traffic.
So we get to the campsite where all my neighbors and friends were at,
and I told them about it.
Of course, they started making fun of me.
And I said, so I told the men, I said, come on, let's go.
I know where this thing is at.
I said, we can get there by boat.
And of course all the people that was making fun of me all of a sudden started going.
I'm not going up.
I heck, no, I'm not going up there.
And I said, come on, you all sit here making fun of me.
Let's go.
Let's see if we can find tracks.
And I couldn't get anybody to go with me.
So that was about the only encounter I ever had, but it was big.
I can't tell you how tall it was.
I never could compare it to a tree.
But it was huge.
It would have been three or four of me.
and I'm 6'2 and close to 300 pounds, and it was way, way bigger than me.
But I never did get a chance to go look fart or anything.
But that was it.
That's my brief encounter.
Wow, Steve.
That is some wild stuff.
Thank you for sharing.
So that you saw it was about a football field length the way it sounds like.
I would say about 100 to 120 yards.
But like I said, I never got to look at the face.
It was walking away from me at about a 45.
degree angle. I was angling off the right shoulder. But yeah, my daughter screams out. Look,
Daddy, somebody's pet gorilla got out. Oh my goodness. So that's, that's, wow, it kind of got my
attention right away. Did it have a shape to its head at all that you could see? I tell you, it was,
there was no, I'm trying to think of how I would compare it to. Its head came down. The hair was long.
the head kind of rounded
and then it just
it was big-headed
and then went out to the shoulders.
It wasn't like you could see a neck
or anything.
It was just almost like
if you draped a sheet over it
that it would be
just a slight definition
between the neck
and the shoulders and the head.
It was almost like
just more of a round look.
I couldn't see ears.
Of course,
I don't guess my vision
was that good
that I could have seen
ears at 100 and some odd yards.
But all I remember was that I do remember was the white, or what, like I said, I'm assuming was supposed to be white that was coming down the back of its head and was going down, if I remember right, it going down the left shoulder.
And it was just a dingy, musky yellow.
Did you notice anything about the arms or the hands at all?
Could you see any details with that?
The arms were a little bit longer.
I think.
That gets what made my daughter mainly think with the fur and the longer arms is why she thought
it was a gorilla.
Now the feet, I never did see the feet.
I could see it from about the knee area up because it was walking along the bank,
which was actually the bank that was there was an area that just floods every once in a while.
It doesn't always stay water, but it floods quite often.
So the grass gets pretty high there.
and it was walking through grass,
which would have been about to its knee level.
So I never did see the feet.
But I did want to get in my boat and go over there,
because I couldn't have got to it from where I was standing.
I would have had to walk through a bunch of water,
but I knew I could get there with my boat,
and I wanted to hopefully get there
and see if I could get some looks that attracts or something.
By that time, I could have got my boat and got the camera out
and took pictures of it.
I wouldn't have had any access to any plaster Paris or anything, but I thought it'd be pretty neat if I could have got some pictures.
But then, of course, we went on with our weekend.
It was just a little bit, probably a three, four hours four dark.
Then we started getting into the Fourth of July stuff and then taking the boat out and everybody wanted to fish and ski and all that.
So we just went on with our weekend.
But I told the stories, and one of my buddies here, he lives in Louisville, Kentucky.
Kentucky. And he was making fun of me and two of his uncles lived up there around Patoka Lake.
And when he was telling them the story, his uncle told him he said, Mike, don't laugh.
He said, I'm going to tell you a story. He said, about 30 years ago, he said, me and a buddy
of mine was out drinking. And he said, right there by Hoosier National Forest.
He said, one jumped out in front of us about 3 o'clock in the morning. And he said,
We looked at each other and we swore to each other that we would never tell the story.
And he said, I've never said a word about it until just now.
He said, so don't laugh at him.
I've seen it.
And then all of a sudden now, he believes me now.
He didn't believe me until his uncle said it was true.
I get ribbed about it all the time.
They always say, Bigfoot lately.
I said, I've never said it with Bigfoot.
I just said, I've seen something that was really big and it looked like a big gorilla.
That's all I know.
but it had more of a man shape to me.
I think it had more like with the shoulders and everything.
It wasn't like it was humpbacked and everything.
It was standing upright.
And it was taking long,
taking good strides the best I could tell.
Like I said,
it was walking through weeds.
Around Hoosier National Forest,
I don't know if you heard anything about it up around Hoosier National Forest or not.
Oh, yeah.
I've talked to a few individuals that have had encounters in Hoosier,
and there's a lot of activity in that forest going on.
Is that right?
going on. Oh, yeah. Yeah, big time. I like to see it. When I was young, I'm almost 70 years old now,
but when I was younger, I spent a lot of time in the woods. And I had, and people, they think I'm nuts
anyway, I guess, because I've seen bear where there's not supposed to be any bear. But then all of a
sudden, a bear gets hit out on the road. Then all of a sudden, I'm not so nuts anymore. And I was hunting in
Kentucky and came upon a mountain line. And I told everybody, I said, hey, I was deer hunting
seen a mountain line. And they go, yeah, big foot mountain lines bear. The next thing you know,
guy gets a picture of mountain line up here off 1638 by Fort Knox, which is just about 300 yards
away from where I've seen a mountain line. Then all of a sudden, I'm not so nuts anymore.
But nobody wants to believe me until something else has to happen to make it true. Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. Thank you for coming up.
And is this a conversation I could play on the Bigfoot podcast that I have?
Oh, sure.
Sure.
Anytime.
Awesome.
Well, keep us in the loop if you hear anything else.
I just wait to see a spaceship now.
It could be coming.
You never know.
But thanks for chatting you.
The way this world is going, you don't know what you're going to see now.
Oh, I know.
But yeah, feel free to use it.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
All right.
Thanks, pal.
Bye.
Hey, sir.
how are you doing? Hey, good. I saw that you had the siding in Colorado. Is that right?
Yeah, it was in Rio Forest near Bear Creek, but this was in the 80s a long time ago.
We were on our senior trip, and there were six of us, three guys, three girls. Only three of us saw it.
Two girls, one guy, I was the guy. And I'll be honest, I don't know what he was exactly.
It wasn't a freaking bear. It wasn't a coyote or any animal I've ever seen.
And it was gigantic. How tall it was? No idea. Distance and dark, just hard to judge.
What were the main things that you remember about it that make you think that it was a big foot?
Throwing logs and pine combs and stuff into the camp. We thought it was squirrels at first.
Squirrels would get upset, well, you know, throw stuff out of the tree at you.
But we didn't realize what it was. Everybody was sleeping pretty much.
And I got up and the two girls that were beside us, where they got up. And when they trained the flashlight,
down the hill towards where the noise was coming.
One of them was pretty clear, the back side of it anyway,
but they moved like lightning fast,
like 30 seconds completely out of sight.
But it was the strangest thing I've ever seen.
We went and looked where they were after,
and we did find some deep impressions in the ground,
not enough to make a cast out of,
because the ground was still hard.
But until then, we didn't believe Jack about it.
And now, ever since then, I've been looking for stories that are similar.
And I don't know.
I'm not one to say that we weren't hallucinating.
Who knows?
Yeah, sure, sure.
They actually saw it in the flashlight, though.
Oh, yeah, I did too.
See, I didn't have the flashlight.
The two girls came out after I did.
Because I thought a squirrel, I was going to make some noise and make them stop throwing
the stuff on the tent so I could get back to sleep.
And I heard grunting and banging and tapping noises.
and the girls swung the flashlight around past me down the hill and one of them was lit up you
could see his whole silhouette the backside and maybe the left side of his face but hard to make out
because I'm serious 30 seconds they were out of sight and we didn't hear anything else so you're saying
there there was more than one there oh there was a small one behind it you couldn't make it out good
because it was further down the hill and there were more bushes in the way but there was another one
it wasn't just one of them and was there more than that i couldn't tell you oh wow did you smell
anything the ordinary at that we had i had read about the smells and stuff we did not but it's windy
i don't know if the smell would have stayed around sure that area the bear creek colorado area is
that a place that you ever went back to after that we were just there for the senior trip
I have been back to call there, but not that exact area, no.
Gotcha.
And have you done any research to see if anyone else has seen things in the same area?
I did.
We asked a couple of people that were there in a park ranger,
and they say they would get sightings periodically, but they always wrote it off as bears.
But I don't know.
It's so long ago, it was back 86, 87.
I want to make sure I have the right place.
So you said, Bear Criarch.
Creek in Colorado. Are there any other places near it that could be like a landmark or a town or anything?
Well, Rio National Forest is what it's in.
Okay, let me look at that here. Rio National Forest. Oh, Rio Grande National Forest?
Yeah, I think that's what it was called. Yeah, that's what it is. Okay, cool. I just want to make sure of the right place for documenting it.
And like I say, we were just on a senior trip. Our parents had funded it. We thought it'd be cool. We'd never went.
cool. I actually don't have any reports from this area. So I appreciate you coming up and
sharing what you experienced. Is this a story I could share on the Bigfoot podcast that I have?
Yeah, you can share it. I'm not ashamed of it. Heck, it happened so long. I'm almost 70 years old now,
so it's not like I worry if people are going to think I'm crazy.
I don't think so, sir, and I appreciate you coming up and chatting tonight.
Oh, you too, sir. Have a blessed day.
Hey, Kimmy, how are you? I haven't gotten a chance to look at your pictures yet.
I'm good. I live in North Georgia, and there have been many sightings in North Georgia.
Absolutely.
But back in January, we had a major ice storm, and it was a big ice storm, and everything was frozen for about three days.
And I don't have anybody that comes up and down my road except for me and my daughter.
And one morning I got up to take my dog out and that's about all his deer tracks, animal tracks, or my dog tracks.
And I'm always watching and we didn't use my front steps because there was so much ice on it, we'd go out the garage door.
But I always took the dog out off the porch.
He would get down on the steps.
But when I got out to the bottom of the dog out, I was standing at the top and I looked down and noticed these footprints.
and I'm like, who's been here?
Because at first I'm thinking it was a boot print.
But then when I got to looking, it looked like it had weird.
You could see toes through it.
It was very heavy prints.
It wasn't, it was a lot of ice to go through.
So whatever it was heavy.
It looked like human type feet.
And if you zoom into the pictures that I sent you,
you can see that there are toes in there.
You can see how heavy the, whatever it was, is.
Because I am 150 pounds, 5'8, and I went out there and stomped on that ice because it wasn't there the night before.
And I went out and stomped on the ice to see how deep I could get it.
And I put a picture in there also of my foot next to that foot of me stomping.
and I couldn't even get down to the bottom of the ice, but this was all the way almost to the concrete.
Oh, wow.
And you said North Georgia?
Yes.
Are you able to share if this is like Chattahoochee National Forest or Northwest Georgia?
It's Chattahoochee National Forest.
Okay.
That's cool.
Yes.
I looked up local sightings and they are all the way up from Delonica to through Helen all the way up into where I'm at.
and they were older sightings, but I had not seen anything, but one night, one afternoon I was in my bedroom, and I kept hearing this god-awful sound that sounded like a bear and a moose, almost like a gurgle.
And I went outside to hear what, to see if I could see what it was, because there are a lot of deer.
We don't have moose here, but we do have bears.
And it bellowed from the bottom of my property.
And I wasn't stupid enough to go down to check it out.
I wasn't going to go looking for this, whatever it was.
But nobody could explain the sound to me.
Because I got it on a recording, but it was very faint.
Because by four, that was like at 10 in the morning.
And then by four in the afternoon, I could still hear it groaning as if it was injured.
Do you still have that recording?
It is on another, it's on another TikTok that I have.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
So I'll have to, let me make sure I'm following you, and I'll make sure I'll check that out.
Wow, that's cool.
Have you ever heard the story of what happened in Dallanega?
Delonaga?
Yeah, Delano.
Is that the one that with the, I don't know, I've heard so many, if research so many,
but I did see where there was one where, or heard where,
people, I live at the foothills of the, like at the Trail of Tears.
Okay.
The foothills of the Appalachian Mountains or the Appalachian Trail.
So you hear of a lot of people coming up missing and then finding their tents and their
stuff and not finding them.
But I've actually heard, somebody did a, like a podcast or a video of people in Helen that
had reported sightings.
And there was...
Yeah, Helen has some stuff in it.
The one that I heard in...
Is it Delanaga?
I'm going to say it wrong.
That's...
Solanaga?
Okay.
So the story I heard on my show was that there was a cobra helicopter crash,
and then the soldiers guarding the wreck saw two to three large figures that looked like
Bigfoot trying to get into the cockpit before.
or pretty much they started firing warning shots at them.
And that's what got them to flee or to get the big foot out of there.
And that was in the early 1980s.
Oh, wow.
No, I had not heard this story.
But there is a cop, a police officer and Helen that was driving with a lady.
And they actually got footage of something large running across the road.
And they couldn't explain it.
They turned around, went back to try to see what it was or to see if they could, and they did not.
That one you can see on YouTube.
Yes, and that's also in the first episode of Finding Bigfoot, too.
Okay, and that's right here, local where I'm at.
Okay.
Which is really strange because I've had, I hear Wood Knox.
We have actually down in LJ, they have a Sasquatch Museum.
So I went and checked that out because I was very curious about my pictures I took and I didn't think about doing a casting or anything like that.
But they look very similar, especially where it looks like on the side of the foot, maybe the fur.
I don't know what those imprints on the side of the foot would be.
But they were very interested.
But if you're in there, you can see the toes, you can see where the fur, I don't know how to explain.
don't know how to explain the side of that foot where it looks like. I don't know what it would be,
but they look like. It's different. But I can tell you, I've lived in the forest long enough to know
what a deer, a bear. I've had bear prints. They have claws. Okay. I've had bear prints.
I know what deer tracks. I know what everything looks like pretty much. And this I could not explain.
And there wasn't a person on my, there was no tire prints, tire tracks. I live in 10,000.
on 10 acres of land.
Okay.
Somebody would have, and why would anybody go barefoot in a nice storm?
And it come from the woods and back into the woods.
It went.
It came up to the porch, stopped at the bottom of the steps and then went back into the woods.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
No.
Absolutely.
I'm going to definitely check out those photographs once I get off this live leader tonight.
Yeah.
And I'll let you know.
what I think, Kimmy. But thank you for coming up.
Is this a conversation I could put on Bigfoot
podcast that I have? Absolutely.
All right. Thank you, ma'am, and keep in touch if anything else
happens out there.
Okay, we'll do.
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
directly to a very specific group of listeners.
If you're in the military, any branch, or forces,
and if you've seen something that no one can explain,
or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker
who's been told to stay quiet,
If you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts, and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul.
and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract,
who has found evidence you're not allowed to report,
if you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat,
and you saw something that shook your faith,
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance,
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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone,
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You've got the story.
We've got the mic.
See you in the woods.
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