Bigfoot Society - This Idaho Guide Was Stalked by Bigfoot for Years!

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

What happens when a lifelong woodsman, trapper, and hunting guide from Idaho has his first face-to-face encounter with something the world says doesn’t exist — and it changes the way he sees the f...orest forever?In this chilling episode, we sit down with Dave, a seasoned outdoorsman who’s spent decades hunting, logging, and mining across the backcountry of Pennsylvania, New York, and Idaho. But it wasn’t until he moved near Palisades Reservoir in southeastern Idaho that he realized something else was sharing the woods.Dave shares gripping firsthand accounts of multiple Bigfoot encounters — including the moment he locked eyes with a 9-foot creature watching him from behind a pine tree, the horrifying roar that nearly knocked him off his feet in the dark, and the night something stomped past his tent while his llamas froze in silence. You’ll also hear about unnerving trackways, strange vocalizations, and a photograph that may show a Sasquatch lying in a cold Idaho spring.These aren’t blurry photos or distant tales — they’re raw, violent, and unforgettable moments from a man who’s lived most of his life outdoors. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to come face-to-face with something impossible… this is your episode.Resouces:Bigfoot Lives in Idaho by Becky Cook - https://amzn.to/45yoTeH (Amazon Affiliate link that helps support Bigfoot Society)🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Selection varies by location. See Lose.com for details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account comes from a man with 45 years in the logging industry, seasoned hunter, a professional guide, and a trapper who knows the woods like most people know their own backyard. But near a place called Palisades Reservoir, something else was watching the trail. This account is what happened the day he realized he wasn't alone.
Starting point is 00:01:23 So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Dave today. an individual that it got connected to over on the YouTube side of things. And Dave, it's a pleasure to talk to you today. How's it going, man? Well, it's a pleasure to talk to you, first of all. Thanks for having me on.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I'm doing good. I mean, the weather's nice and things are good at the ranch, so I'm ready to talk Bigfoot if you're ready. Absolutely. You know, Dave, you were nice enough to. to share a bit with me about your background. And I think it might be beneficial for listeners to know a little bit about your background. Would you mind sharing things that you've been into over the years that you'd provided to me before we get into it? Well, I don't.
Starting point is 00:02:19 There's a lot in my background. And I'm not quite sure. I'm not quite sure everything I sent to you or we discussed before, But I've been in the logging business. I started out in the logging business in Pennsylvania. So I run a logging business from basically Buffalo, New York, Orchard Park, all the way down to Wheeling, West Virginia, and across half the state of Pennsylvania. And so pretty big operation, spent over 45 years in the logging in sawmill industry.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And I was at a very young age, five years old, and I caught my first muskrat. So I spent 90, probably 95% of my waking hours out in the woods in Pennsylvania, New York State, and, you know, northern West Virginia. That being told, I've never even thought about a Bigfoot, never had any experiences, weird experiences in those states. but I got involved. I guided in in Pennsylvania since I've been probably 18 to 20 years old. And I bought a place that had an 800-acre estate attached to it. And for 23 years, I outfitted hunters and stuff like that. So, I mean, I've dealt with the public.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Nobody's ever had any issues with Bigfoot out there that I know of. But then I got interested in Western hunting and got involved with a fellow by the name of Mike from Jackson. And he wanted me to write a few articles for him. And so I did. And he got me over here on the other side of the mountain range into a place, I would just say, Swan Valley and Idaho. And so that's where I live and reside today. But things changed as far as the big foot world. I mean, I was to Alaska.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I've hunted Alaska numerous times. Never had any issues other than with Grizzlies. And I've been a professional hunter pretty much my life, and I've taken dozens of scores of people out. And guided in Wyoming, never had any issues with Bigfoot over there. but Idaho, the southeast corner of Idaho, seems to have a lot of Bigfoot activity. And I also gold mine.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That's another thing I do. Every summer. Matter of fact, I'm getting ready to go gold mining again. This summer, I'm going up as we speak in two days. I'm going to do some prospecting. But anyhow, that's led me into some Bigfoot encounters. And we'll talk about that in a month. and sure later and show.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But so my life has been out in the woods. And, but in this southeast corner by Palisades Reservoir, I've had encounters. And whenever you're ready in Jeremiah, well, I suppose we'll start sharing them. Is there anything else you'd like to know about my background before we go? Well, thank you for sharing that, Dave. I think that's important that listeners know that in this case, you have a lot of background being in the woods, guiding people, fishing, hunting. Even though we know you as Dave, you're pretty accomplished for things that you've done over the years.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And I have some info regarding that to the side. But, you know, Dave, I'd love to hear more about was there a certain time that you realize that there was. more going on in the woods than just these animals that you were hunting as a guide? Well, I would say I've been out in Idaho since 1987 and for, I would say approximately 10 years, I've never encountered anything that I could put my finger on as out of the ordinary. although I did watch as a kid like a lot of us probably listening the what was it, the Boggy Creek, legend of Boggy Creek.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I thought that was cool. I never really gave it any thought until, like I said, I moved Idaho. And I would say things started happening around 1998. And quite frankly, I ran into something that, was literally amazing. They talk about this skukum cast because I watch
Starting point is 00:07:24 Bigfoot stuff now. I watch David Politees and stuff like that and reputable and listen to encounters on this show. And I find that there's an awful lot of people that have had encounters.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And a friend of mine by the name of Becky Cook wrote a book about Big Foot and says the title reads Bigfoot lives in Idaho and she devoted a whole chapter to some of my encounters and weird unexplained happenings. I'll put it that way because if I don't see it, I don't believe it, but there are things that's happened to me that there is no explanation because like I said, I've been out in the woods since I've been five years old. I'm going to be 72 and I've said. And I've spent literally 90, 90% of my, even at this day and age, 90% of my waking time is in the outdoors.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So it's extraordinary when something like this happens to you, and you remember, is there anything else that you want me to put into that time frame? I would say that does sound good. It's interesting you bring up Becky Cook. I know she's known for writing a few books about Idaho Bigfoot. I believe she's, I think she's no longer with us. Right. Yeah, she passed away here a year and a half ago.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But if listeners want to hear more about encounters in Idaho, I would recommend try to track those books down if you can. Yeah, Dave, I am knowing that you are also featured in one of Becky. books, which I did not know. I'm very, very curious to hear what had happened to you out there. Well, do you want me to start from the first Bigfoot encounter? You want me to skip around and give you the most scary encounter first. You tell me what you want to hear.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I found that from talking a lot of people over the years, it's interesting to hear, chronological if possible because there's always seems to be a path that is followed maybe a few different paths but it would be really interesting to hear what your first encounter was okay well the first encounter happened uh well my buddy george and i were hunting and uh it was our typical routine we'd go out pre-gone, get up in the intersection, and glass and glass, looking for big, the old earbucks, and of course not even looking at the smaller ones, but we would do that. And then about 11 o'clock, the bucks, especially the big boys are all gone after 20 minutes of daylight. But we'd watch in glass and look for elk or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:36 until about 11 o'clock we'd eat a little bit of lunch and then we would take turns sleeping. Well, this one particular day, beautiful blue bird day, you know, very little wind. George said, oh, I'm going to take a nap. So about it, he would sleep to about 1.30. Then I would go to try and take a rest from 1.30 to 3, and we'd get up and, glass till dark and head back to camp. We used to pack in with llamas. So we were right up.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We didn't have to travel a long way to get back to camp. We always camp right up in the mountains where we were running. And the one particular day, I was up there and I was just playing with a chipmunk. And because when I was a little kid, my grandma used to put peanuts in my hand. and the chipmunks would come up and take a peanut and run away with it. And I thought, well, I'm going to see if I can crank one of these wood chipmunks. So all I had was some of these Lance cheese and peanut butter crackers. And so I cut off a piece and I threw it underground.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And the little chippy came up and he ate it. And the next thing you know, I got him, he was climbing up on my leg, but he wouldn't come up to my hand. And this has been going on. And I looked up. from the chipmunks some caught my eye and I look down by this pine tree which was about I'm trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:12:14 it was probably 40 feet yeah 40 to 40 to 60 feet away and that pine tree was probably at that time 11 foot tall I was just back here last year
Starting point is 00:12:31 and now it's probably 25 or 30-foot down. But anyhow, there was an elk elk pass, a game trail. Let's just call it a game trail. Came out right there. We would sit right above that. Not looking
Starting point is 00:12:47 for anything on that game trail, but basically looking at it. There was three trails down the hill and they would come out and it would come out and be perfect shooting. So, George is sleeping. I'm there playing with the chipmunk, and I look, and here's this big, dark brown, chestnut brown,
Starting point is 00:13:05 thing standing there. And I says, well, that's a moose. And I says, wait a minute. It'd be an off-colored moose. And I looked. And so I moved a little bit. And this thing was looking right at me. And it never blinked.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It wasn't a moose. It wasn't a bear. It had a head that was probably, I'm thinking, 16 inches wide. I said, well, and I could see. I could see the one eye, the corner through the pine tree. He was studying me through the branches of a pine tree. And this pine tree is about four foot down slope. And I'm looking straight across at his eyes.
Starting point is 00:13:56 This animal had to be, I'd say, nine to ten feet tall. Really. And I think that's, no over exaggeration. This animal's studying me. I'm playing with the chipmunk. I'm looking at this thing. I'm dumbfounded.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And the guns, or two guns, were set against a wind-blown pine tree. It's been rotted. It's all white and bleached out. They're laying there. They're on the other side of Georgia, unfortunately, or fortunately.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But I looked over at those guns. And when I looked back at him, something changed with his demeanor. I don't know how to explain it in words, but the expression that I could read from his eyes changed. And I was no longer concerned with the chipmunk. I was on my butt, so I moved over closer to George. He was watching. He didn't move. And I looked at the guns again. And when I turned, he was gone. Now, this thing had I saw, oh, let's see, the left side of his shoulder was probably protruding about 30 inches, three foot from his head. I didn't see a neck. I could only see one half of his head. I saw part of his head. I saw part of his. his nose. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's
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Starting point is 00:17:09 no bigger than a silver dollar the the pupil the you know the colored part but uh and and in a big eyebrow uh that's all i saw of them other than i through the pine tree i could see uh part of his width but he was turned uh if he was walking up that trail he would have been turned to the left and he stood there motionless but the funny part of it is when i looked at the guns the second time turned around and looked at him. He wasn't there. And there was, there was no noise. That's just like he vanished.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Just like poof, like, like in a, I don't know, a cartoon, you know, where the fairy godmother puts a wand down and poof, something's gone. And that was my first encounter right there. And then that same year, in the evenings, we heard, I don't know how to explain it. It was like an Oriental language down in the pines, down into the bottom of the basin. Never saw anything. And I told George, he even called me, he said, who speaking Chinese down there?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Why are they speaking out loud like that? It was a dialect. It sounded like in Oriental, you know, I'm not familiar with all dialects, but it sounded like. that. It was almost like words, but it wasn't words and twice in that year. And once in the subsequent year, we heard that down in that basin. And I would say that would be the extent of those that encounter on that side. And then... Dave, can I ask you a few questions about that real quick? Sorry. So this was in southeast East Idaho, you said?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah, on the beyond the the western side of Palisage Reservoir. Okay, gotcha. So it sounds like when you were able to see its eyeball, it actually did have a pupil and I would
Starting point is 00:19:22 take from that that you could see a white area of its eyes or was it all colored? Yeah. I wouldn't say it was white, white. It was more like yellow, but it was It was lighter than the center, yeah, that I recall. But it's been quite a few years.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But it reminded me of a human being's eyeball, but it was just huge. You said that the left side of the shoulders, three feet from the next. I want to make sure I heard it right. So six feet across, it sounds like? Yeah, I would think so. Because he was turned quartered toward me. and I could see that's what I spotted first.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I didn't see the head in the eyeball. I saw that big blob, which was his shoulder in his arm, torso, left side. And then I looked, I kept looking,
Starting point is 00:20:20 and then I noticed the head in the eye looking at me through the trees. In other words, he was screened by this mind tree. but he was looking through the pine tree standing there looking at me
Starting point is 00:20:37 and I don't know how long before I spotted him he was there because he didn't just appear there he might have been there for five minutes watching me play with that chipmunk I don't know absolutely
Starting point is 00:20:49 he disappeared and yeah he disappeared right there was no sounds like there are no branches moving it just you said just disappeared disappeared and I know he couldn't he couldn't have went forward on the trail he had been exposed he turned around and went back the way he came down into the dark timber but I never heard a sound
Starting point is 00:21:18 now you know well that any hoofed animal that's going to depart quickly you're going to hear. Now, a bearer, a mountain line, they put any soft foot in animal, I'll just say it. I'll put it that way. They don't make that kind of noise, especially on a trail that is groomed to be free of branches and stuff. It's well-used trail. And so he disappeared without a sound. I didn't hear any big thumbs or anything like that. It was just gone. That was it. And if I did hear it, my brain didn't registered. Right. That's what I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:21:59 When did you, uh, go over to where it was standing at all to see if, if there were any tracks? Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. Because I, I, I shook George and woke him up. He says, what, what's going on? And I says, he ain't going to believe this.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The huge thing was just standing. Ah, he says, you don't know what you're talking about. And so I said, yeah, I'm telling you. He stood there and watched me playing with his chipmunk. But, uh, you know, and, you know, he said, and, you know, he said, Anyhow, yeah, that's what, and we went down there and we looked, and I didn't see anything.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I didn't know then to look for Bigfoot tracks. Since then, I've seen dozens and dozens of Bigfoot tracks, casted a few and whatever. But at the next time, there was just no tracks on it. It was just a 30-inch wide trail. beat down with elk and deer tracks, but there was no elk and deer tracks right there. There wasn't any there.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It was just plain, smooth, red dirt. And if there was a track there, I didn't recognize it. There probably was a track there, probably numerous tracks, but I didn't recognize them. I didn't know what I was looking for. Absolutely. You know it that time. So.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Did you have horses with you in addition to Lombe? or just the llamas? Just llamas. Okay. Yeah. And during that time, were the llamas reacting in any way or not? No, they weren't there. They weren't there.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But I will tell you a circumstance where the llamas did react. Okay. It wasn't at this, on this certain situation here, this certain day. No, they were back at camp. We would never take them unless we needed to attack something out. out and then we would go back get them and, you know, put the ten years on and get moving. Makes sense. Had you heard the, I guess I should ask, have you heard the Sierra sounds at all?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I've heard of them, whether I've actually heard them. I don't think I really actually did hear. Maybe I did once or twice, but didn't register anything to me. Okay. It would be interesting if you were able to, like if you search for Sierra sounds on YouTube, it would be interesting to see if what you had heard that Oriental language, if it was similar to what Ron Moorhead had captured in the Sierra's of California. Well, I can, yeah, I'll check it out. Go ahead. You know.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Okay. Yeah, definitely. Okay. So, after this, this is your first experience. that's a wild first encounter. And then did this set you down a trail like, man, I got to figure out what I am dealing with, or it just started to come more and more into your life as you went along? Well, I'm inquisitive. I want to know what's going on. And it changed my hunting patterns a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I'll let me tell you. And all those years in the woods, I started looking around. around behind me. I never wanted to run into one face and face, but I did, unfortunately, about three or four years later in the early, well, I can tell you what date that was. Okay. That was the opening day of mule deer season in 2014, which would have been, I think, October 5th. Yeah, and it was at 620 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I don't remember that one, because that's when, that was the day. my most terrifying encounter with one of these things. Do you want me to... Yeah, I would be... Well, before we get into that, so were there any other ways that it had affected how you hunt besides looking over your shoulder? Did you start to notice things when you're out there?
Starting point is 00:26:21 You're like, anything out of the ordinary, they're like, well, maybe that's connected to Bigfoot as well. I started looking for tracks You know I started looking And being more berserger I'm a trapper So trappers by Your very nature
Starting point is 00:26:40 Very little With buy them If they're looking for fox tracks They're looking for fox tracks And you'd be surprised I can track it in the bare dirt I'm a good tracker But was never
Starting point is 00:26:56 a custom for looking for Bigfoot tracks but I saw a lot of tracks over the course of years that I thought were just big bear tracks and now I have to wonder because you know they have the toe
Starting point is 00:27:11 pattern that would be similar depending on that topography of where they stepped you know and I think a lot there's a lot of misidentification of big foot tracks that are in fact hindfoot's a bearer's double step bare tracks, double step meaning one bear track, steps in another bear track,
Starting point is 00:27:32 and it makes it look longer or wider or whatever. And so, but I'm very astute in that realm of looking for tracks. As far as looking for scat or broken branches, I never give that much of thought. No, I, I even forgot about that till long I was talking to you. structures. I've seen some things on Bigfoot, Expedition Bigfoot, they're talking about nests
Starting point is 00:28:08 and structures and stuff. I actually run across two structures. And I have a picture with my buddy standing inside of one. And that was an experience. I think we were out putting bear bait in. And that's when I actually cast the track was in the spring of a year I said to him, I says,
Starting point is 00:28:29 holy smoke, stop the truck. I said, big grizzly came down across the road. Well, it wasn't a big grizzly. It was a big foot. And so I ended up a cast the track the next day. That's the cast I still have today
Starting point is 00:28:42 in my possession. But I've seen lots of tracks, a lot better casting tracks too. But I don't carry plaster or pairs with me when I'm on. So I don't. Oh, sure, yeah. walk, you know, I'm not going to walk like four miles to cast a big foot track, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Absolutely. I mean, that is very heavy stuff to carry in addition to everything you're carrying as a hunter. How long was that a track that you had casted? It was about eight and a half inches wide and 18 and a half inches long. Oh, wow. Nice. Okay. Yeah, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Yeah, very good. And we trailed it. I said, go my said, look at what grass. You can see. where it went down through there. His prints, he was coming down a slope, I would say about a 7-degree slope
Starting point is 00:29:31 off of a 90-degree angle. Anyhow, a slight slope off the road and his tracks were 72 inches apart. I put a ruler on it. From the one track, the middle of one track, to the middle of the track I cast was 72 inches. one more. He had two more steps across the road, and then he went down through a bunch of juniperts with some grass that was about an inches tall, nice thick grass, great grazing grass for animals. He went down through there. You could see the prince because he had crossed. He must have crossed after we went up, is what I think, and coming back down the road later is when we saw the track.
Starting point is 00:30:19 We followed it down and he went down to the crick. The crick was, I would say, and this is interesting. This is really interesting. I'd say the crick was probably running high because of the snow melt. I'd say it was 16, 17 inches wide at that point. And you could see where he stepped on the willows, turned to rock, and then he jumped. He must have jumped. And I'm a gold miner.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So I'm used to looking in crick beds, and there was only one rock disturbed, and it was about three feet from the other bank. And it got flipped, and it was a rock probably about 20 pounds. And then you could see where he went up, and he took a game trail right up over the hill. You could see the tracks right there, but I never thought to go over there. I didn't want to get wet. All I had was hunting boots on. I didn't want to cross the crickstone. But, yeah, I eventually cast that track the following day.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That's incredible. So six foot, six foot, you said 72 inches. Exactly. Yeah, six foot. And how would you describe the gate of what you were looking at when you were following the tracks? Straight like a cat. Okay. You'll follow a mountain line.
Starting point is 00:31:45 It would just go straight line, B line, you know, and that's what this was. one foot you know like a white man walks like a duck and an Indian a walk straight line more like an Indian that's fascinating yeah
Starting point is 00:32:04 so you were definitely starting to notice things in addition to your normal hunting I am really interested to hear about what happened that opening day of mule deer season in 2014. Well, that was the most scariest day in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:26 What happened is, starting in August, I usually get up in the high country, night glass for trophy bucks. And lo and behold, this one year, I spotted three trophy bucks. And then the one day, in late August, or no, it was late September, actually, I spotted the same three bucks.
Starting point is 00:32:49 They would come out. I had them pattern pretty good. I'd go up once a week, and I'd last before daylight. About a mile and a half away, and I'd watch these bucks. Anyhow... On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore One Nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer. Bad Dirt.
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Starting point is 00:34:25 These bucks were big. They were all over 30-inch inside spreads, and this buck that came up behind him was probably 38. And with teeters, he was well over 44 inches wide. I mean, he was a hog. He was in the top epalon of the record books, believe me. And I said, wow, I know where I'm going to first day. I said, I'm not going to bother them anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I got it, this pattern. I got to be there. So when I hunt trophy bucks, I don't use the flashlight. You see people all the time using headlamps to get to where they're going. Well, if you're going to use a headlamp, these trophy bucks, they're sitting up there, and they're feeding, they see a headlamp. They already know the jig is up, so they get into hiding right away. And all you're going to see in small bucks, the big ones are still there.
Starting point is 00:35:12 anyhow so I walk up this trail this trail is about a two mile jaunt up into where these bucks come out in this meadow so I had a buddy from Pennsylvania come with me he came and I said
Starting point is 00:35:30 we'll use the lights on the valley because there's no way they can see down in there and then once we get up around the corner it's lights off so we did and got up there and I told him where to go I said just follow And this was walking in a horse trail. I said, just go over there about three quarters of a mile. You're going to see a group of the aspen trees.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You stand there, get into the brush a little bit, just stand there and take it easy. And these bucks are going to come out between me and you. And if you shoot, you know, they're going to run up toward me. And something's going to happen. One of them's going to be laying on the ground. So we had a plan. up this draw. I didn't want to go out in the meadow because possibly there'd be out there or anything else out in the meadow feeding before daylight and they would scare these animals. So I said,
Starting point is 00:36:24 I'll stay out of there till shooting light. So I go up in this draw off to the left of this metal. I've been in that draw a dozen times. I knew my way around. I got up in there and I just took the gun off my shoulder, prompted against the tree, and I'm standing there. And I'm standing there. looked at my watch, you press a button on the watch, it said 20 after 6. I said, well, I got about 20 minutes and then I'm going to work my way over, get out, I know where I'm going to be in the middle and cover. So I'm standing there, and all of us, I heard a stick, just like a small stick, a quarter inch around, and I said, well, there's something there.
Starting point is 00:37:09 and it was probably 80 yards for me maybe 100 yards and I couldn't see anything this picture dart I don't have a light on I'm just standing there in a dark this thing this animal screams so loud and then roars and then growls at me all without taking a breath. In this whole situation lasted probably eight to ten seconds. It was just amazing, but it was so loud. It about blew me over. I mean, when you were a kid,
Starting point is 00:37:50 kids couldn't relate to this and you went to a dance, you'd go, and if you got too close to the stage, the speakers would reverberate right through your chest. That's what this was. And I said, and I I knew better that it was nothing in nature that could do that. There's no way. The volume was too great. I jumped.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'm a small person. I'm 5'8, but I jumped four feet off the ground. And I was scared of death. I grabbed my gun. I ran out into the meadow as far as I, the heck with the deer. I ran out in that me because I figured this thing was coming after me. I ran out there probably about 80 yards into the meadow. It's wide open, just a little bit of sagebrush.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And I said, well, if that thing comes out and it's coming after me, it's going to have five shots in it because I'm a pretty good shot. I don't miss very much. And for the first time in my life, which is I broke the cardinal rule. I took my safety off my gun. was so scared to death. And I was ready. I said, I'm not going to monkey around.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I was ready. I had my safety off my gun, and I didn't have nothing to shoot at. And I have never done that. I've never done it since. But I was scared of death. And the thing never moved that I know of until about 10 minutes later. And I heard three little pine sticks. I don't think they were a quarter inch. but I could hear it moving up the draw.
Starting point is 00:39:36 It would have passed about 40, 50 feet from where I was standing. I could tell I could listen to it walking. But I couldn't see down in there because, like I told you, it was a ravine. Now, why did this animal scream? I asked myself that question. Well, the deal is, is until the sun comes up and warms the hillsides, the thermals run downhill. That's why hunters, time in time again, make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:40:05 They always walk the top of the hills before the sun's up and warms the basin. Well, if you do that, everything down sloping, you know, is you're up there. They don't have to see you. This big foot wasn't going to go out in that meadow. He was crossing over. He was doing the same thing I was doing, using that ravine for cover, except there I was. And then he got a whiff of me. So I scared him or her is what happened.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And that's why the screen. And then that roar was a reaction, I think, to get mad. And the growl was, I'm coming through and get out of my way. To me, that's the way I interpreted it. And believe me, I got out of his way. As fast as my little legs can run. I run right out in that meadow. And up over the bank of the ravine and out in the metal.
Starting point is 00:40:57 but that was the most scariest encounter in my life. And to add to that, that was about four and a half to five miles from where my first encounter happened. And the track I cast was directly in the middle of those two encounters down next of the road. So it's interesting, you know, to say the least. And my buddy that years later, matter of fact, only about five years. go came out humming and i told it same metal i said you stand here i'm going to make a a mile and a half
Starting point is 00:41:36 two mile pass through the timber here if there's something in there i'll booted out across the middle well when i got out there he broke my cardinal rule he wasn't where i told him to be and i thought where in the hell is don at and don was nowhere to be found i thought well i'm going to walk up to the top and get a better view. Maybe I can see him, spot him someplace. I walked up to the top, and here he comes. And he's all excited. I says, what'd you see?
Starting point is 00:42:06 What'd you see? He says, you've got to come down here. You've got to come down here. I found a big foot track. I said, what? Yeah, he says, I found a big foot track. So he was up there looking for me, because he was so excited about the big foot track. So he says to me, he said,
Starting point is 00:42:22 you got plaster of Paris in your truck, go down and get it. I says, it's three, three miles down there from where this big foot track is you want the track cast you go down because I got to walk three miles back that's six miles now he wants to be walked 12 miles I said no way but anyhow we took pictures
Starting point is 00:42:40 or he took pictures of this track and by his footprint and all that now that was a smaller track but it had the toes it was a perfect track to cast it was in well it must have rained or something And it was in some mud there. And it had crossed the trail and just left a perfect print.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But it was about, well, I took a dollar bill, I think. I measured the dollar bill there on that track. And I think it was 16 and a quarter inches long and about six inches wide. But it was barefoot. I mean, you actually could see lines in it. I guess they call them ridges or whatever they call them. But you could see it in there. It was a perfect track to pass, but I wouldn't have about to walk.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Well, Miles will cast a big foot track. But that was the, that was the most scary incident, anyhow, my big foot encounters, but I've got a few more. Wow. So, so far, everything that you've said all happens relatively close around this Palisades Reservoir, right? Yeah, exactly. And I know where they cross. I've seen 20 tracks
Starting point is 00:43:55 across the dirt road in this one spot, big foot tracks. If you go there, invariably, you will in that 100-yard section run across big foot tracks crossing this dirt road. And it's,
Starting point is 00:44:09 they got to swim in the reservoir to get to the other side. Sure. But it's a, it's a probably 550 yards across there. And they go right down that steep, bank. And they go right down there. I assume that they cross the reservoir and go over into the
Starting point is 00:44:30 timber because there's nothing on this side other than rocks and a few juniper's and in a buckbrush. There's nothing there for them, you know, so. But that's where they go. They go down there and they cross that every time. Every time you can look there. And if you look there and you traveled that road every day. in the course of a, from, I would say, mid-May to mid-October, you're going to see Bigfoot tracks probably two or three times in there. Wow. That's incredible. And I'm not the only one that's seen it.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, yeah. You've heard other people that have also had accounts. I know personally, other people, their sons, they've run it. Actually, they got scared out of their fishing one time. they took a boat across and they got scared out of there and things were hollering at them. So they had to get in a boat and leave right before dark. Oh, wow. It's crazy how, is this also pretty close to the Wyoming border, right?
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yes, it is. Alpine, Wyoming is at the upper end of Dallas-Dade's reservoirs, Juan Valley is at the lower end. You know, the breastworks, the dam itself. Right. you know I've I've heard some some bigfoot vocalizations in Oregon and I know what it did to me physically when you heard those did you have any physical reactions I guess you did mention that it was like you were standing too close to speakers at a at a concert did it affect you in any other ways as well or is that the main way just scared me
Starting point is 00:46:18 I couldn't hunt normally for three, four years I had to stay out in the open where I could see normally I'd go right in the timber and still hunt I love the steel hunt and I sneak up on animals
Starting point is 00:46:30 all the time but after that I stayed I actually have to admit I stayed out in the open where I could see if something was coming I just because I hunt by myself a lot
Starting point is 00:46:42 sure and so I just I'd be honest with I was scared, and it took me a few years to get over. Yeah, and this year, let me see how far would it be as crow flies, about a mile and a half I would have been. Yeah, about a mile and three quarters from where my encounter happened. And the Bigfoot have been gone over in that country,
Starting point is 00:47:07 but I can tell you stories of outfitters that have had clients that paid a lot of money to go on, and they wanted to leave the first day. because right where I put my friend by the aspen trees, they were there. The first day elk season, and two big foot started throwing stuff at them. And these guys, they were from out of state. They got so scared.
Starting point is 00:47:33 They said, we don't care what. We want to leave now. They went back at 1 o'clock, the outfitter came back with this group of hunters. And these guys, they said, we're out of here. We don't want nothing to do with this place. And so they forfeited their money and the outfitter took them out. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Wow. And, you know, I'm not a huge outdoors guy. So, but I, from what I've heard from people, like if you're paying to go on something like that, it's usually at least, I mean, it's a, it's a good amount of money to forfeit. Yes. Yes. Yeah. They forfeited their fee.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They were supposed to spend a week there. And they forfeited it. They said, no more. We won out. They were scared to death. And it's funny, when Bigfoot are more than one, which I can't substantiate, move into an area, it seems like the game leaves.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I went back up in there, looking around after the, that encounter. When the snow hit, I said, I'm going to go up and take pictures of the animal's tracks, this bigfoot tracks. And I said, he's up in there. I'm sure of it. Well, I know every inch of that country. I never run across the bigfoot track. But you know what was funny? I never ran across the deer track. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow
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Starting point is 00:50:32 It's not, I've never seen that. And I covered in miles that day. The only thing I saw was a couple Pine Martin tracks and a red squirrel track and all that. I didn't even see a grouse track and there was 8 inches of first snow. There should have been tracks all over. It was the perfect day. And I didn't see anything. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:50:53 The place was dead. It was like I was the only living creature in 10 miles. That's really interesting. Did it affect the sounds of the forest as well when you're out there? I can't. I honestly can't say, but on that snowy day, there wasn't a sound. There was nothing. I was the only living creature in that area.
Starting point is 00:51:20 No moose tracks, no elk tracks, no deer tracks. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. And I mean, I know where to look and I know where to go. And when you don't see anything, you know, no beds, no nothing. It was devoid. And the outfitter that had that place up there saw me beaver trap and several years later. I don't know what they call
Starting point is 00:51:43 Bearcric. He was coming out with a string up and that horses and removing his camp and he said hey, I know who you are and he recognized my truck and so we started talking. And he told me a couple Bigfoot stories. And that was
Starting point is 00:51:59 pretty interesting. But he told me because I can't figure out why there's no animals up there in this one area. I says, well that's because Bigfoot moved in. And when I said that he just looked at me funny. He says, you actually believe that stuff? I says, I never
Starting point is 00:52:15 did until it happened to me. And I was seeing it. But you know, I got to tell you one thing about that first incident. You know I? That I don't know how to explain it, but that first incident that happened to me with the chipmunk and the crackers and the Bigfoot and
Starting point is 00:52:32 George Sleep, and my memory wiped that out for years until I had a horse accident. and it broke my neck. And when it did, well, I'm lucky to be alive and not a pair of pleaded to believe me.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I put my C1 clean across burtbrey. And that traumatic injury, my daughter came over to the hospital. They thought I was going to, whatever, you know, but I pulled through. And I don't know what brought it up,
Starting point is 00:53:07 but she mentioned that first Bigfoot encounter. And I had forgotten about it, but I had told her about it, you know. And she reminded me. And then it all came back to Cairzabelle. And I remember there's a bell today. But for a period of probably eight years, for 10 years, I forgot completely about that. It was removed from my memory.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Don't ask me how, why? I don't, I can't explain it. But the, the, the, the real scary one up there, the old deer hunting, that one I never forgot. So I can't explain that. But, you know, that, that was funny about that first encounter. And then in that same area, I had another encounter. And this, I remember I mentioned about, you asked me about the llamas. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And so we had three llamas. My son, he was there, Dave Jr. and my daughter. And I think there was one other person there at that time. I think it was waiting. But anyhow, we were camp there in tents. And it was just getting dusk. And there was branches. and it sounded like a freight train coming through the woods.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And I said, oh, you guys, get your guns. There's a herd help coming. The llamas normally whinny like horses when they're scared. And they would have normally just opened up and it would, they make these shrill-sounding winnie's, I guess you'd call them. But they just had their ears perk up and they were looking right at that steep bank
Starting point is 00:55:04 right across from our camp. Well, this animal, which I thought was a group of animals, stopped right across from the llamas on a side hill that had a 70-degree slope, 75-degree slope, almost a cliff. Stop. Just stopped. Never moved. It turned dark.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I said, well, I don't know what's going on. And a couple times I looked over there, and I thought I saw dark spots, but at that time, night shade in the pine trees make stark spots so i just dismissed it well about one in the morning being an older fella uh you have to get up and do your business so i was going to get up in i turned a little pen light on and when i turned a penlight on something went right by the tense it wasn't a hoofed animal that I can swear to. Now
Starting point is 00:56:11 whether it was a big foot or not, I don't know, but it was big and it pounded the ground and when it ran up that trail it went thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump going up that trail. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:56:27 But I believe it was a big foot because it was on two legs. It wasn't a four-legged animal. I know darn well it wasn't. So that happened, and that's right in the same area.
Starting point is 00:56:43 You know, so there was a lot of activity right around that area. In a timeframe of about three to seven years, they were just, they were there. That's all it was to it. They were there.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And the chatter that I heard, George and I, you know, I've never heard that since, and I've never heard a scream or a roar or a growl like that since. But what happened, well, you said you want to go in chronic logical order, but maybe I'd have to cover southeast Idaho first. Is that okay? Yeah, go redhead. Well, last year, I'm hot and help.
Starting point is 00:57:28 About a mile and a half away from there. And I'm up up in there. I look over and there's some hunters over there. They always glass this one spot. If they listen to this, they know exactly who they are. And they know who's talking here. But anyhow, I go up in there and I'm like, hell can I call two bulls? But I couldn't see their heads and they were with cows.
Starting point is 00:57:53 So, you know, you just don't shoot in with your shooter at your target. So I didn't shoot, but never did get the bulls. But I went up higher on the miles. mountain. I looked there and said, wow, look at that green grass. There must be some water over there. Well, there was. There's a spring seat there. And I've hunted that country for, since 1987. I've never known that spring seat to be there. And it's big. It's a pool of water probably 25 feet long by 12 feet wide. And I walked down. I'm looking for elk and deer tracks. There was a lion track there. There was a bear track. There was a bear track there. There was one pretty nice buck track there that I spotted, and there was numerous elk beds around
Starting point is 00:58:41 in tracks, and you could smell elk there. And I'm standing there, and I look down at my foot, I'm looking for tracks, and I'm standing on some water ground, and I look, and there's a big foot track. It's probably 17.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It wasn't as big as one I cast, but close. 17-inch class big foot track. I'm standing right in the middle of it. I said, ah, rats. I didn't even see it. But I took a photograph, and then I looked in the mud hole, and I said, hey, there's this track going in the mud hole, or in the spring seat.
Starting point is 00:59:17 So I said, well, I'm going to take a picture of it. And then I see where he came out of the spring seat. There's another track, so I took a picture. And I took it down to Walmart in Idaho Falls to get developed. And this girl, I'm not good on this kind of stuff. but just can you help me get these to build? And she says, and she says,
Starting point is 00:59:39 why did you lay down in that mud hole? I said, what are you talking about? Well, she says, there's the outline right there a person laying in that mud hole. Well, there's a perfect picture right there of a big foot laying in that mud hole. I never even noticed it when I was there. I was just taking a picture of the tracks.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And that was last year. That was last, I think it was third day, third day, excuse it. I believe it was third day. So that had been, what,
Starting point is 01:00:09 the 18th of October last year. And I would say those that, where he laid down in there. And his arms and legs are there, his own heads there, the whole bit. No neck.
Starting point is 01:00:22 It's all right there. It's in the photographs. I got the photographs. And they've got the photographs. But anyhow, uh, sorry. Can I jump?
Starting point is 01:00:32 Dave, can I jump in for a minute? That's kind of a really, that's a huge deal, like a really, really big deal. Yeah. None of even noticed it. That's wild. It's like the kind of like this you've heard, you actually mentioned it earlier, the Skookumcast is kind of similar to that, but a little different. Well, this puts the Skookum cast to change.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Oh, yeah. I'm telling you. I just don't know who to give it to. You know, I called Meldrum over there because it's, I've met Jeff a couple times over, you know, at Pocatello there at university. But he hasn't replied to me. I told him what I had. And he hasn't replied to me.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So I don't know who else they'll give it to. Maybe I'll send it to you and you can do something with it. I would love to take a look at it if you would be open to sending over, you know, however you can do that. Yeah. Sure. I'll send, I made two copies of the radio. by 10s so you can see it. You'll see it.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's so obvious the big long arms. He laid right down in that thing. And, well, of course, you know, in October, who in the heck's going to lay in a spring seat with an average water temperature of about 38 degrees? You know, now I figure he did that the last part of September or the first part of October. But you can see the outline.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It's all muddy. You know what I mean? Cloudy is what I'm saying. Right. But it was week before, you know, I got there. But, yeah, the tracks are right there. I'll send you the photographs after we're done. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'd love to take a look at it. That would be great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you'll be shocked. And this isn't, I don't know what they call them, doctor or anything like that. I just took the picture. Like I said, I didn't even see the outline.
Starting point is 01:02:28 The woman in Walmart, she's the one to comment. And I said, holy smokes, look what, and I flipped out. I said, wow, I really got something. So I went to a guy that actually cast my cast for me. And I showed him. He says, well, that's no, that's no animal. It has to be big foot. Look at the footprints.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I said, yeah, look at the footprints. One in and one out. And that footprint was probably, I'd say about four and a half. I'd say about 52 inches to maybe 58 inches from where it laid down in the water. Wow. Layed down in water. You'll see. I'll send it to me.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You can measure the outline of the animal was probably about seven and a half sheet, maybe eight. Sure. Wow. Yeah. But it's there. It's obvious. anybody that got two eyeballs in front of them can tell what it is. Gotcha.
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Starting point is 01:05:30 popping pearls bursting in every sip. Ice cold, instantly refreshing and impossible to put down. Made for summer only at Starbucks. Well, first of all, the one that scared me, I scared it just as bad. Sure. I believe that. And I've had encounters in where I go gold mining up my Elk City, Idaho. In north central Idaho, I've had a couple encounters up there, seeing tracks,
Starting point is 01:05:59 played around with rocks. and actually came down and put a rock on top of my rock but it hasn't been back for three or four years but I've never had a problem with them and one thing that intrigues me though I think I don't know why I can't explain it but I think once a person sees a big foot they are very likely to have more encounters
Starting point is 01:06:28 and I don't know why but I feel that these creatures, animals, humanoid, whatever people think they are. Once they encounter a human being and there's no adverse reaction, I think they don't mind showing themselves a person. I live on the last ranch up of Township Road, National Force between me and Jackson, Wyoming, and I know they're up in the mountains, and I know that they probably sit there and watch me down here at this ranch, go about my chores and everything. They don't bother me, and I don't bother them.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I always said I wanted to get a DNA sample. I'd shoot one in the arm or something. I've changed my mind. Unless one attacks me, I'm good. We even go, you know. What was it that made you change? changing your mind from doing that? Well, I've had a deal up in Elk City
Starting point is 01:07:36 where I got up again to relieve myself. I remember we were camping. There was 20 minors there. 20 minors in this camp site. It was called Legate Creek. It's up on, I don't wait 14 out of Greenville heading toward Elk City. I got up and it was like 20 after 4, 4.30. I had a coon hound with me, a young pup.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Anyhow, he got out and did her business, ran around a little bit. And all of a sudden, I'm doing my business, and I'm a crack. I thought, what in that? And it was over above the access road coming in there, up on a sheer cliff, no less. And I said, oh, it must have been a tree fell over. That cliff or something hit the rocks and broke up because it caught me off guard, you know, and I'm going to sleep in.
Starting point is 01:08:38 But anyhow, all of a sudden, it cracks again. But it's coming right above everybody's tents and campers and everything else. I went down to two buddies there from California. They can verify this. And I said, hey, you guys. got out of the tent. There's a big foot here. Well, every night before I go to bed, I'd whoop, and we tell stories. I tell
Starting point is 01:09:03 them about what happened down there, and they just dismiss it, you know. You have a few beers and go to bed. Anyhow, this thing must have heard me whoop and decided to come over and check me out. It's another crack. These guys get scared, and they said,
Starting point is 01:09:21 we're going into tent. This thing's coming right down here. If I ran up, I got in my tent. me and a dog this thing this big foot and the tracks were right there you couldn't mistake him
Starting point is 01:09:34 big one a big one like the one that I made to cast of anyhow it comes down and it makes two more cracks and one is 40 yards from my tent all of a sudden it comes down and stands and it stands
Starting point is 01:09:51 less than five feet from my tent this is what I determined when I woke up in the morning. Well, I actually didn't even sleep after that. When I got up, I should say. And I could hear it breathing. I could hear it breathing. It sounded like a person breathing that had asthma or something,
Starting point is 01:10:20 you know, a problem with their lung capacity or whatever. Because it was just gone around. Almost like a grizzly bear. when a grizzly barrel come up to your tent you'll hear him, you'll sort of like a huff, a deep deal, you hear him breathing. And anyhow, that's what this was. And me and the dog was in the sleeping bag,
Starting point is 01:10:43 I said, don't, I had my handover about this, and don't make a noise. I'm listening to this thing, and it's still there for, I don't know, three or four minutes probably, and walked off. Next morning, or what that morning, a couple hours later I got up.
Starting point is 01:11:00 And everybody started pulling out of the tents. I went down to Ronnie's and got some coffee. I said, well, the thing was there. He says, well, yeah, if it's there, left tracks. I said, well, yeah, I suppose. Well, the grass was about 20 inches high probably. There was this trash. You could see right where he stood five feet from my tent and walked off.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So that was one encounter up by Elk City. And then here three years ago, I walked a dog every morning, give her her exercise after I feed her. Then I take a cup of coffee with me, and I look for elk and deer tracks. Every once in a while you'll see an occasional moves. Well, here I think it was three years ago. I looked and there was a big foot track just plain as day. But unfortunately, I had a different truck.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I didn't have no plaster repairs. It was a big track, too. It was probably close to 18 inches by 80. which is why it had crossed the road right there. There's three game trails right where I camp, and it won't know. Well, I don't know which one it walked up. I went over there, but there was scoff marks
Starting point is 01:12:06 because the deer used and stuff. I couldn't tell which one it used, but yeah, down there by the road there. There was the track. I know the day. You'd see the toes and everything in it. So that was the second deal up in Elk City, and then the last one was up where I mined.
Starting point is 01:12:23 There's a big rock there, and I don't know why, but I just put a round horse, oh, I know, I was going to save it because it was pretty, you had a lot of mica in it. And so I was going to just save it. So I put it up there.
Starting point is 01:12:38 And the next morning I went up, there was a little horse rock sitting on top of my rock. And I looked at that and I says, okay, who's screwing around here, you know? And so I said, well, okay, I'll put another rock next to it. Well, the next morning I went up, there was another rock next to my rock. And that's the last that ever happened, and there was never nothing.
Starting point is 01:13:09 But I thought that was interesting, so I don't know what that was all about either. But it wasn't anybody playing games because it's right next to the road. Nobody would be on that claim and take a chance to be insane. And so I think something crossed there and just decided to do that or play with me or something. I don't understand it. That's what happened. That's some very strange stuff. Every once in a while, you'll hear just strange occurrences.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I did want to ask you a question about the prospecting. In those circles, is Bigfoot a thing that is, talked about ever, prospectors are out there and they have interactions with something like that? I would say yes and no, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Some outfitters, some hunters, some outdoorsmen, some gold miners, all have stories to tell. And some don't believe it. It's like, you know, it's like every other aspect of life. Some people, well, I never believe.
Starting point is 01:14:21 leave it until it happened to me. And there's nobody that's ever going to tell me that they're not out there because I know I lived it. And once you experience it, you know, once you experience it,
Starting point is 01:14:38 you experienced it. And you just can't eliminate that experience from your, from your, you know, your mental awareness. You just can't do it. And it does affect your life. I think there's not a week goes by, I think, but I wonder if he's up there watching me here. Or when I go out scouting, you know, when you go scouting, there hasn't been anybody in the woods for a long time all summer.
Starting point is 01:15:08 So that's when I'm most cautious. Once the hunters get involved, bow hunting, gun season, then there's a lot of activity. and these things they're more elusive at that period of time so but I think when you start initially scouting early in the fall when nobody's out there
Starting point is 01:15:33 I think you've got to be on the ball and you have to be on the ball for Grizzlies now you know I've had a lot on encounters with Grizzlies I've had to spray them I've had them within 10 feet of me you know, it's, you've got to watch. So it's, it's dangerous out there.
Starting point is 01:15:54 So people that come from out east, they want to go and hike to west, they're going to realize there's a lot of danger out there. There's lions, there's bears, and there really is Bigfoot. So with that, I'd say I'd end this. I'm here to answer any questions you want to ask. me about anything, but everything I told you is 100% true, correct. Absolutely. So that's what I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:16:25 From what you've experienced over the years and what you've heard in your area, do you have any thoughts about what Bigfoot might be in that particular area of Idaho, I guess the southeast section? Well, I believe First of all, I believe they follow the game hurts Because it seems like That's what happens This one that I casted
Starting point is 01:16:59 I started looking around And this big foot was sitting up the hill Underneath two junipers, eating an elk That's what it was eating on Because the elk was there I mean, and he drug it. He actually drugged this elk. I could see where he drug it.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Now, whether he killed the elk or not, I don't know. I have no idea. But he was eaten it. And he had a window of that road because I sat down right where you could see where he sat down. I sat down right there and I looked down at the road and you could see about four feet that dirt road is all you could see. But that's all he needed to see to know, watch the truck. traffic. And if you'd have to look and be, it'd be a miracle to spot him up underneath him juniper's. And believe me, I can spot stuff, but I wouldn't have never spotted him.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And I'll tell you something else about Bigfoot, they like apples. In the fall time, I told you I live at the end of the road and there is a one piece of private property that the gentleman's going to give to the Conservancy. He planted a bunch of apple trees up there. be an old home with Ted, but there's no structures there now. But a fellow, a young kid here, him and his sister, swear they saw a bigfoot, crossed the road going down into that apple orchard. I never thought anything of it, but there's a Macintosh apple tree that's between my place and that apple orchard.
Starting point is 01:18:39 and I had these apples spotted and they need a good frost and then you go pick them, you know, and make your applesauce and stuff. And so I was waiting for the frost and the tree was loaded. And I'm the only one who gets apples there. Well, I went up with the four-wheeler
Starting point is 01:18:56 and the dog to get the apples. But there wasn't an apple within 18 feet of the ground. They were all picked. And so I said, oh boy, bear must have come down. I looked at the tree. there was a claw mark on that tree.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You tell me what took all them apples off that tree. And there was no prints around the tree. There was nothing. You answer that. So now that, to me, lends a little credence of this kid's story because I thought, ah, he's just a kid. He doesn't know where he's done. Well, now I tend to believe he did see a big foot cross and go down through there.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And that big foot was going to them apples. Yeah, I mean, it's, It's one of those stories where everything does line up for sure. Man, what, what a, it's a part of Idaho that I don't believe we've heard a lot about. It's really fascinating. It'd be interesting to hear if other people reach out about. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad?
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Starting point is 01:21:28 uh i know four locals that are running to bigfoot wow uh yeah and i know uh becky cook was a friend of mine after she wrote about me she'd come up and visit and we'd sit on a porch and talk yeah then she'd tell me about new uh contacts that she's that if not a whole of her about big foot's around here and up in uh fall creek which i'm looking at fall creek right up my ranch window right now uh there was a group of people up there uh you know mom dad family family family, the whole deal. And the Bigfoot came right down and crossed right in front of them. They watched it.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Oh, I forgot to tell you. I was line hunting up there five years ago. Yeah, I think it was five winters ago. And I looked and it's just, holy smoke. So I showed Steve, I said, look, there's your one bigfoot ran down through there. He said, that ain't a big foot track. That's something jumping. I says, that's a big foot track, I can tell right now.
Starting point is 01:22:35 So I went down, it was dark out. We were spotting where lines crossed the road before daylight. And lo and behold, it was a big foot. He couldn't deny it because there was the tracks. Went right down across that canyon and went up into the timber. But it was before daylight, you know, but he crossed. And then I'm looking right over across the valley. There's a Girl Scout camp up in there.
Starting point is 01:23:05 and those two they're not tree structures like you would think I've seen them up some guy up in Canada has a YouTube thing that he takes people up and they he's got pictures of Bigfoot and stuff only one of those pictures
Starting point is 01:23:25 even looks remotely close to the one I saw but anyhow he has Bigfoot I don't know I guess I'd call them a shelter. But when I first found a shelter, there was a big nest inside of it. It was made out of pine boughs. There's a big round spot inside of it, like where a huge bowl would lay a little bit bigger than that.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And then outside, there was a smaller one outside the shelter. No, it's actually reversed. The small one was inside and the big one was out. side. And this bigfoot climbed up a pine that's four foot in diameter and broke off limbs three to four inches to make this shelter. And that's the fact. Those limbs that are piled up there and they're not piled on the ground. They're piled in a teepee like. And they were all broke off up 40, 50 feet all the way down in this animal, whoever it was. And they were four to six inches around.
Starting point is 01:24:39 This thing snapped them off that tree and piled them up. And there was the two beds there. I was amazed. I took pictures of it. I still have pictures, I believe, of that. And then I took my buddy when we were baiting bear up in there. I said, you've got to see this. And I took him, and it was a winner.
Starting point is 01:25:00 after. And so the winner sort of scrunched it down, but he stood inside of it. And it was amazing how small he looked. Wow, David. It's some fascinating, fascinating stuff. I think that we are definitely going to need to keep in touch. You have some really amazing encounters, and you're one of those individuals that people are talking to in the area, which is really important that there's someone, you know, who's there to listen to everything that's happening. But I just want to say thank you for coming on the show today and for sharing what you've experienced over the years. Sure.
Starting point is 01:25:43 And I appreciate you having me on. Now, if you just, after you end this interview, if you just stay on the line and give me your address, I'll mail that today to you and you can take a look at it. Oh, yeah, sure. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for coming on, Dave, and I'll go ahead and provide you that information. Okay, sounds good, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Yes, my name is Kyle Meadows, and I am from Webster County, Kentucky, originally from a place called Clay. And it's about 40 minutes from LBL, land between the lakes. that's not where my encounter happened I've had a few encounters some Bigfoot some maybe something else the first the one I'm going to tell you about when I was a kid
Starting point is 01:26:49 took place when I was about 13 12 or 13 which I live in a rural area and I grew up hunting fishing you know everything in the state of Kentucky that you can and I was really big into coon hunting and my dad used to go with me all the time when I was a kid
Starting point is 01:27:12 until I got about the age of 12, 13 he pretty much well quit kind of going hunting with me period that goes for everything you know deer, turkey and coon hunting and I had one dog of black and tan and he was pretty well trained. And of course, as a kid, I would never scare the woods or scare the dark.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And I would go by myself. Dad worked in the mines, so he always had some kind of old work car, work truck, what have you. And I would take his car and go myself. He would let me go myself because I live not too far from where the woods is. And we always called the woods that I went to number seven. And the reason why we call it number seven, there used to be old number seven coal mines out there. And it blew up in the early 1900s and killed a bunch of people. And so I load the dog up.
Starting point is 01:28:23 I go out there by myself. I cut it loose, walk into the woods with it. It gets to running. And it's running good. and I finally come through, the wood was a little thick, and I ended up coming into a clearing. It wasn't exactly a clearing, but it was like where the trees wasn't so close together.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And they were a little further apart, and they were all bigger and mature trees. And so I just sat down there and turned my light out, sat down on the ground, sat up against a tree, and turned my light out. And listen to the dog. well it wasn't long I heard coyotes open up and it sounded pretty close
Starting point is 01:29:06 and then the dog quit running went cropped quiet it sounded like he was about to tree and then all of a sudden he quit hearing him and they'll do that a lot you know if cowl just run up on especially if they've had any encounters with them so it wasn't nothing new so I thought well he'll pick back up here in a minute
Starting point is 01:29:23 and I just sat there with my light off well I kept hearing something sounding like it was circling me So I would take and sit and listening real intent. And I thought, man, your mind's playing tricks on you. You're sitting out here in the dark by yourself. Mine's playing tricks on you. So every now and then I'd flip my light on and look, wouldn't see nothing.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Well, finally, it got the best of me. I just, you know, flipped my light on, look, look, sit down. I kept hearing it. like it's circling me. And it would stop. And finally, all of a sudden at once, the tree tops like exploded. One tree, and it was shaking.
Starting point is 01:30:14 The whole tree was shaking. A tree toss, a great big tree. And I wasn't thinking at the time that, you know, there ain't a limb on it for 30 feet, probably any of these trees around. But it sounded like if you've ever walked up on a big covey of turkey that's roosting, fly off. But it wasn't no wings flapping.
Starting point is 01:30:30 and it wasn't nothing like that because it was the whole tree top. And I thought it was my dad or somebody knew playing a prank on me. At the time, I wasn't thinking that there's no way for whatever, you know, person to climb a tree like that. So eventually I got scared enough, you know. I turned my light on. I'm looking. And I said, hey, whoever it is, you need to stop.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Quit. Games over. I got a gun. I had a 22 rifle with a 10-round clip in it. I said, you know, I've got a gun, I'll shoot, whatever. Well, it would hit the ground, I could hear it, and it would run and go up another tree, and the next tree would start shaking. So finally, I just lowered the gun, waited for the next tree to start shaking, and fired shots off.
Starting point is 01:31:18 What didn't stop? Well, I realized right then that it wasn't my dad and it wasn't nobody. When the dog heard the shots, it come back in. So I coupled it, and I started trying to walk out. And I would take two or three steps, and the dog would jerk behind me like something was behind us showing his teeth, all bristled up. And I literally drug the dog out of there. And that's kind of my first story. If you'd like to hear more, just email me.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Thank you for your time. If you'd like to share a voicemail to be potentially featured on the show as well, head over to Bigfoot Societypodcast.com and hit the show. share your encounter button. Just want to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Dave's story is one that stays with you, not just because of how close the scream came or the eyes watching him from behind the pine, but because of the silence that followed. The kind of silence that makes you realize there's something out there besides yourself.
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