Bigfoot Society - This Oregon Town Has a Bigfoot Problem!

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

What happens when a seasoned researcher chases a deer into the dusk — and runs into something waiting in the shadows?In this chilling and immersive episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah Byron shares ...never-before-heard interviews and audio footage from Oak Hole (formerly known as the Meadow) — the infamous Bigfoot research hotspot near Oakridge, Oregon. You’ll hear a lot of individuals recount what really happened during Sasquatch Summerfest 2024.From glowing golden eyes in the woods, to vocal mimicry, unexplainable roars, and a sighting that ended with a playful head tilt — this is one of the most intense and vivid Bigfoot episodes we’ve ever released. Whether it’s fruit disappearing in the night or shadowy figures running down mountain slopes, the Oak Hole stories will leave you questioning what walks in those woods.This is more than a story. It’s a documentary of one of the most active Bigfoot hotspots in the Pacific Northwest.Resources:Sasquatch Summerfest Oakridge Oregon festival: https://www.sasquatchsummerfest.comArea 58 Museum channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Area58MuseumYou can watch Jason Kenzie's Searching for Sasquatch documentary on the same events here: https://tubitv.com/person/281914/jason-kenzie🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:37 that's when he said, hey are those like monkey sounds and they came up from right down over that steep bank straight up through here straight through these trees all the way around our tent all the way around back to here and that's when they proceeded to scream it is for you know an hour and a half two hours for an intense moment of my life it was right here is where it happened at and they right inside these trees all the way around us. I mean, you can see how close the tree line is. So they were right inside the tree line, you're saying?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Right inside, except for the big one. He'd be by that tree and walk up to the back of the tent, and then I'd talk louder, and he'd back back up. You could feel the ground. You could feel the voices going through your body. it was so intense that it was unexplainable. I'm dumbfounded. And we get action all the time. I'm grateful that
Starting point is 00:02:46 he, you know, got to see them. They're here. You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and this is Jeremiah Byron. The episode you're about to listen to is an audio documentary about the events of Sasquatch Summerfest and the research that happened in the year 2024, you'll hear from multiple people involved with this episode. The Searching for Satsquatch team, myself, Ronnie Priscilla, Alicia, is in the background of one of the interviews.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Dwayne is present. You'll hear from Denise. Many, many different people. This took about a year to get all the necessary interviews and to do the editing. I hope you enjoy this. A few things to go over real quick. If you hear reference to a place called the meadow, that is now referred to as Oak Hole.
Starting point is 00:03:42 That's the Bigfoot Research Area in Oak Ridge that the Area 58 Museum team frequents. I hope you enjoy this audio documentary as it does help tie together the many events that happened around Sasquatch Summer Festival. 2024. Enjoy. We'll first start by talking to Chad about the events that happened on Tuesday, July 16th, and that led into Wednesday, July 17th. All right, Chad. Do you mind first stating your full name and why you were present for the events of what happened in Oakridge? My full name is Chad Edward Datamo. I was present at the events because I'm a Bigfoot researcher and was invited as a speaker at a conference in Oregon. And then I was taken out into some areas on the first night that I was there by people that have had multiple experiences.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Perfect. And the first night you were there, was that Tuesday, July 16th? Yes. Actually, it was a 17th. It was a 17th. Perfect. And why don't you go ahead and share what were some things you first experienced on Wednesday, the 17th, from your perspective? Well, we arose and Priscilla, the host of Sasquatch Summerfest, had picked us up. And I had got to meet her father, Ronald Roseman, great guy, and talked to meet. to Duane, his friend, both experiencers.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Well, that night, Priscilla had to go get some moss, and nobody was willing to go, and I said, what the heck, I'll go with you? And we go out way back into this area where there's been encounters by multiple witnesses, and we're just picking moss out of these trees. and you know we weren't there for bigfoot but i'm always paying attention and i just like felt something i started explaining to priscilla your your best form of defense actually at night and i'm lethal for these creatures is a super bright uh flashlight so i showed her i had my one flashlight on my side that i wasn't using to pick the moss because it's so bright i pulled
Starting point is 00:06:22 it out and I focused the beam like high focus in and I started shining the woods and I saw this yellow reflecting eye and I said Priscilla there's something reflecting there then all of a sudden it was two eyes like it was behind a tree I could kind of see the tree a little bit it was a hundred feet away and it was black out there and and then she's looking at it and she's like yeah I see it then all of a sudden two more yellow gold eyes appeared a little bit lower than the one we were looking at. So now we're looking at two sets of eyes. And I'm like, we have Priscilla's seven-year-old granddaughter with us. She's in the car.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I'm like, Priscilla, you want to walk towards this? Which, if I was like with somebody else, I would have actually approached it. But Priscilla seemed a little nervous, and we did have the granddaughter. daughter. And so I agreed with her and we left. And as we're leaving, I said, drive slow. I want to shine. I still want to shine in there. And there was actually another set of eyes as we leave. And in fact, there was a total of three. So we had saw the two. And when I sent Priscilla to the car. And she goes to the car first because we're close to these things. We're within 100 feet. and were 100 yards from the car.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So I told her to go. I stayed there with the lights on them. Then I walked about halfway. When I turned around, there was a third set of eyes. And we get in the car and we leave, and I want to shine. So we saw probably one of them again, unless there was a fourth that we hadn't happened to see when we were out picking the moss.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I remember you talking about that citing multiple times when we were having conversations during that week. And you usually would say, you know, Jeremiah, I know what I saw. I'm not crazy. I mean, it really affected you intensely. I know what I saw, Jeremiah. I know what I saw. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah. This is the same day. So I just, I want to clarify dates because it has been a little bit of time. So this happened on the same day, I believe, that I flew in on the Wednesday because later on we went back out that same day and stayed out pretty late, me, you and Sherry, right? Yep. You came out. You flew in that day and we went out that night. After all this had already happened.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So I just missed probably some of the most craziest stuff that happened in the week. Just missed it. but we i want to throw in something i was trying to think of what happened that night wednesday night and the weirdest thing was i remember you shining your flashlight on the edge of the meadow and it was a pretty bright bright flashlight you you shown it into the tree line in a half second later there was a huge stick break not too far where where you uh shined your flashlight and that was probably the first weird thing I experienced in that area. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yep. I do remember the stick break. We could attribute it to anything, but because of what happened right in that spot, I mean, we're going to think Bigfoot. But the thing is, we only heard one break.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's not like an animal went crash into the woods. We just heard one crack out of nowhere, and it was calm. Absolutely. Now, there had been a sighting on the edge of the meadow of one jumping down from a tree, right? I don't know if I heard that one. I didn't hear about one jump from a tree, but I heard there's been a lot of sightings up there. So you might have got that inclusive, you know, at the conference, because you talk to a lot of people from the area. This is exactly why I'm spending. I should have done all these interviews at, at, at the week that I was there, but my legs started having a bacterial infection, and I was kind of not really with it.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But I believe I'll get that citing from one of the other parties that was involved in. There are so many people that were involved with being up in the area of the meadows. Were there any other things that happened out of the ordinary or anything you noticed? I know you put some fruit up in that area as well. Yeah. Well, I don't really know what to say about the fruit. The apples and oranges were on the ground. The banana was peeled and just a peel left there.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I don't know what to think about that. We left apples in another place and they disappeared. We left three where Priscilla and I had our night siding. so that was the only fruit that we left out there. But there was a night we were out there where we hiked up the mountain, you didn't want to go with us. Don't you remember that night? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah. Me, Jason and Gwendolyn, and we did. And on our way down, we found this weirdest thing, like root, like knots pulled out of a tree, and they were, like, placed on a, log right there for us to see. And, you know, it was just weird just to find that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And these things were like long daggers, like 12, 14 inch knots pulled out a tree with points in them. They were beautiful. In fact, Gwendolyn saved one. I left one from Priscilla. I think Sherry left, or I think Jason took his.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So I left mine because I couldn't take it on the plane. I didn't want to smuggle it on the plane. But I do believe Gwendolyn smuggled. hurt. And they were laid so symmetrically next to each other. It was, it was weird. Did Bigfoot do it? I don't know. But I don't think a person did it either. It doesn't make sense because it sounds like where you walked up to that area. This isn't by a trail, right? This is just in the middle of the woods. There's a trail, but it's not a heavily utilized. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. how is it i'm just trying to figure out how a human could get the uh the knot the knot where a branch so where a branch comes out of a tree they got the whole knot where it like lives in the tree and
Starting point is 00:13:29 feeds off of the and there were like they were like sharp daggers i've never seen anything like it and it logically makes no sense we took the photo before we touched them that's right yep it's it's one of the weirdest things i've ever seen and i mean uh it's par for the course for that area because there have been other people that i mean sherry alone has had her name called from that area uh i believe that was on sunday night it's the same night that we're talking about um it's just some weird weird stuff in that area we heard branches break from it started over there and then we listen and it just stop moving and we start talking and then here a snap over here and We'd listen and it kept doing that.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And it got us, you know, another snap. And my daughter got up to look with me. I was looking already. And she got up and turned this direction. We didn't see nothing then. But then all of a sudden, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash, crash. And I see this black shape leap out of this stuff and go that way. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:44 But I was thinking, is that a bear? Because it looks small. Right. But being right here next to it. Yeah. I'm telling you what happened. Last night, they weren't aggressive at all. I was nervous.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You know, we had a little girl with us, too. And Priscilla, and I, like Priscilla, I wanted to go toward him because I couldn't hardly believe what I was seeing. And I wanted to verify, I know what it was. I know exactly what it was. and then she didn't want to go towards it and all with me. And I'm glad we didn't go towards them because that way we weren't threatening. I had the light on them.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I said, you go to the car. And I held the light on him and I watched him. She walked in the car. She walked like 300 feet, like almost a football field to the car. And when she got up there, then I turned the flashlight so I could see, because she had a flashlight. She could see. And I started walking.
Starting point is 00:15:43 about 150 and I turned and shine the light. They were all in the same place, but now there was three instead of two. When I turned, and I'm like, okay, they had pursued towards, I'm halfway there. Then I turned, I walked, we got in the car. Eve is like, let's go, let's go, let's go. Me and Priscilla, like, dude, that's real. I know what I saw. And Eve, it's like, oh, we got to go, we got to go.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So we're going. Our interviews continue with July 18th, which was a Wednesday, talking more to Chad about how he went up to the area again with Ronnie and Dwayne. And then that day concludes with audio from myself and Dwayne up in the Oak Hole research area. Also present is Denise, Sherry, and Chad. We went back the next day. I took Ron back and we went with Dwayne and we went to look and we located the spot for footprints and there were footprints all over like depressions and there was one that was measured at they said like 20 inches it was like a easy 18 inches and they were they were like but they
Starting point is 00:17:10 weren't defined they were just like the shape of a foot depression. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. agents who are realtors do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps. They can tell you about flood zones, mixed use zones, and decode acronyms like HOA, APR, MLS. They connect you to lawyers, contractors, even Phil, the Sewardcope guy. They negotiate, coordinate, advocate for you, close the deal with you, and hand the keys to you.
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Starting point is 00:18:51 Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recesses. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. You didn't see toes because of the ground surface, the substrate. It wasn't feasible. for a good track in that area, but you could see definitely where something heavy had stood. All over behind these trees were Priscilla and I saw this. And this was on the day that you went back.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It would have been around 8.30 in the morning. Gotcha. And after we observed all of that, then Ron and Dwayne wanted me to take, to want to take me, which is right close by within a mile or so, mile and a half at the most by the drive, straight line, probably three quarters of a mile. They wanted to take me to where they had their terrifying experience one night.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And so we go up there. And we put out lawn chairs right on the road, right by the meadow where they had all this. We sat there. We sat there for an hour and a half. And then Ron, John needed to run into town, wanted to get lunch and some things to drink. And Sherry slept in because of the flight from the night before.
Starting point is 00:20:41 She was exhausted. Had way less sleep than me. And so he was to pick her up. But during the time he was gone, he left. And within between 30 and 45 minutes, we started hearing, like, cracking, like footsteps. steps. My back was to it. Dwayne was facing towards it. We're in camping chairs on a side of this like two track. My back's to it. He's facing me and his daughter's off to the side. And they're hearing it. And I'm like, just keep listening and see what happens. Well, then I don't know what
Starting point is 00:21:19 happened because we heard it for, I don't know, a good minute and a half. Then all of a sudden, it just started. It crashed the woods. My back. to it, I didn't see it. Dwayne saw it, he said, it was black and it ran through the woods. His daughter didn't see it because she wasn't quite facing at it. We all heard
Starting point is 00:21:39 it. And I'm like, okay, well, let's just sit here. We didn't like go in that or anything. And within, I don't know, 15 to 20 minutes maybe, I mean, it's hard to tell in time. All of a sudden, we get
Starting point is 00:21:54 roared at. I mean, this roar that is incredible that there's bear can't roar this long and at this and it was a distance away not real fire but a distance and uh duane and uh denise his daughter they got a little paranoid because they had bad experiences with getting growled and roared at like that i told them we're okay we're okay let's just sit here just sit here we're fine i don't know 15 seconds went by And then the roar, same roar, but it was louder and closer. And I mean, I saw the panic in their face and I'll be honest. I'm not often intimidated, but it was really, really intimidating to me.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And I just looked at them, I said, all right, it's time to go. So we jump in their vehicle and we drive up maybe a half mile. and because we can't leave because Ronnie's coming back with Sherry and stuff and if we leave, he's just going to go right there then we're going to be gone. So we pull up and we find a spot to park. We parked there and we wait and we're waiting.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And while we're waiting, we're, I mean, we're on high alert because of what just happened. We're like just scanning the high hills behind us, like the cliffs of the mountain or some behind us that it's up like 50 feet we're scanning across this big huge ravine to a mountain on the other side that's all like totally visible and i just happened to to look to my left and i just stare there at this area and all of a sudden this upright dark object just goes running down this hill i saw it at the most for a second to a second and a half, but I know what I saw.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And it ran upright down this big steep hill right in front of us. They didn't see it. I saw it. But this is within a half a mile over all this other stuff just happened a few
Starting point is 00:24:10 minutes before that. Whoa. It's got like a really weird shivery feeling. That was weird. Yeah. Yeah. I think they promote, I don't know. It's like...
Starting point is 00:24:25 Do you know what I'm saying though? Like, I get them all. All of a sudden is... I usually get it right before it starts happening. I've been feeling the same way. My hair's on the end. I'm looking in all around me. Pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's gonna feel like somebody's watching you. Yeah, they're pretty. It's just got quiet. That's real close. To that whistle. I was breaking stuff off that tree over there. Just get ready. Recore as much as you can.
Starting point is 00:25:29 We'll jump in there and go as fast as we can if we have to. We're going to turn around. We're going to go. I won't go in here without that car being turned around. Yeah. And I've already been through this once today. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It is. So right there, that's the field where it all went down. That's wild. Yeah. It's hard to do, but I do those two brains. because you know they echo through the woods to get a ticket. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's quiet. It's super quiet. And those were too loud rakes, right? Oh yeah, they were loud. They were loud. I sure do have good memories here, though. All the bad ones, I guess. All right, I'm nervous too.
Starting point is 00:27:27 We're all right so far. You got good instincts. Yeah. Dang, so Ronnie, this is a spot where Ronnie was like, you were like, do you want to come? And Ronnie's like, no, I'm staying here. I don't care if they tear me apart. This is it. This is it.
Starting point is 00:27:53 He is, I mean, he's a great guy, but that was nuts that he did that. I'm telling you. Now that I'm here. Wait till you get a chance. I mean, you get that roar. And then you'll really go, wow. Ronnie's a great guy, though. He's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He's a good dude. That one? No way. That's it. That's what he's mimicking is that sound there and I can't tell you whether that's a bird. I was given back to them. That wheeh. No way.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Not the robin, but that one in, that chirp bird? That's the whistle that these bigfoot up here have been mimicking to us. That whistle right there. That's the whistle my daughter was whistling back at him back and forth up here. up here was that whistle right there I'm gonna try to figure out what kind of bird that is just so I know what they're mimicking and you could be back over in another spot too right now they could be in both spots on time the top aren't even coming up here they oh i bet yeah they were wanting to go down in swamps man that's the place to be that's the and i kept telling all i'm telling you it's
Starting point is 00:29:49 not as good right so the swamps are how far away from They're not a long way. Yeah. There's some on the corner over there and then it drips into another layer. And there's a tree. We're us hearing it here and with the cracks and then for some reason it freaked out and went crashing through the woods. My back was to it. I trust this man was what he saw.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He was facing it. And then when he said bear, he says it had to be a bear. It was black. And I'm like, didn't sound like a bear. sound like a bear and if it was a bear it would have kept running it got somewhere where he'd go quiet but he jumped when he then he said he then you said well yeah he jumped it was like a weird but i didn't see it i heard it she hurt my mind was trying to rationalize something you know maybe okay then it it was it 15 minutes after that at the most that we heard the roar it took off that's why i think
Starting point is 00:30:54 it went and told the Alpha Daddy. I really do. It took off. And within 15 minutes, there's a roar. And then, he knows a story. Seconds out of that. It was another bad.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I think 10, 12 seconds. And it was a lot closer. And then I, dude, I was like, it was. We said, it's time. It might have been 100 yards away. It might only have been 100 yards away. It was that loud. And I said, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:24 and I left the chair. And that was nothing. Oh wow. Yeah, you did? Dude, I left a chair there because we couldn't fit it in. I didn't know. I wasn't wasting the time. We could have, but I wouldn't waste some time.
Starting point is 00:31:35 We drove up to where I showed you, we parked that big round thing and then pointing. So we drive up there. We're parked because we know Ron's coming back with Sherry. And we can't, like, we want to make sure they don't just come up here and we're gone. And we're sitting there and I'm leaning on the hood. And like we're staring up in the hills. It's a beautiful spot. There's a big area.
Starting point is 00:31:57 You can see way up on top of a mountain where if a big foot without binoculars, if a big foot walked across it, you'd see it. We're sitting there. We're watching that. And then I'm watching up on top of the hill behind me. And then I'm watching over here. And I'm watching for a while. And I saw that.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Dude, I know what I saw. It rained. You saw that hill. It ran down to. Oh, yeah. That hill was nuts. It ran down that hill. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:22 There's no sense of leaving here. So that was, and it's not even a mile away. It's a half mile maybe, a third of a mile. Yeah, it's over there. Yeah. And then the other road that goes up there, it only goes up there. That's within, that's right up here. Where we had our sightings last night, isn't it right here?
Starting point is 00:32:54 No. Right over there. Yeah, but we will not. Right. We go up and move back. If they haven't come back this way? That's about a little small. But it's not far from here.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, it's getting dark now. Oh, yeah. It'll get a little darker, too. Soon. And it'll be quite a while before a moon even shows up over here. Anywhere over it. So it'll get pretty dark. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 00:35:24 for music, or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a rees. You know, I can imagine all the knee singers when we say this stuff's happening in the daytime. They're probably like, yeah, right it don't happen in the daytime. We're like, oh, just happened to kick off
Starting point is 00:35:48 right before the Bigfoot Festival, huh? You know, you always get stuff like that. like just the skeptic you know naysayers come out and like whatever you can say whatever you want but yeah I don't care what they think I'm just happy that another person that come up got to see them really quick yeah I mean within five hours of being in town that's got a record that's an absolute record you know it is like boots on the crown five hours later you have a sighting that's wild with three of them yeah oh my goodness yeah it's funny it's
Starting point is 00:36:33 funny ron's why do i never get to see them it's just funny it's just funny i guess you gotta find some humor in a no you really do yeah and i you know i don't mean it in a bad way but i hope you get them scared out of you too Absolutely. And get it on recording. Absolutely. Do you think of how many spots like this there probably are in the Pacific Northwest? No one would ever know.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah, this is just one drop in the ocean, dude. Yeah, you just got to find them little spots. Those area spots where for whatever reason people just don't go camping at. What do you get to take the picture? That's where you want to look, man. The one right behind. Because something is making them feel wrong in the least. wrong and they leave you don't want to camp there or or they have a sighting or something
Starting point is 00:37:41 happens yeah I hardly ever see anybody camping anywhere from here and below ever really wow and there's got to be a reason for that got real quiet again do you see something I thought I seen movement over there yeah what you think so where did you see that down that tree the one where he was at yeah okay I I was I was, I'm not sure. I kept seeing stuff earlier too. Yeah. I think we need to keep an eye on that tree, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I just didn't, I thought it was like my camera being weird, so I was waiting until someone else had something. Thought I seen a movement over there. Yeah. Turn around a minute. What's that? It'll turn in a minute. Look at this. I've seen another.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Weird, did you see that? you have fluctuation. I'm gonna start looking at the screen too though. What kind of fluctuation is the way out of the way down here? This is usually the side the big one comes out of it, but he has came out of this side before. But usually it's either from over here, and over there. No, I'm... You're a train.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's what you heard this morning. Yeah. See how that was it. That was trained. It was a train. And we all had the same hallucination. Yep. I keep saying that I gotta get it right to get it with a war.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And I'm not going. Yeah, I was first time my daughter hurt. Oh wow. She didn't get to hear the roar. She heard other sounds, but that roar is so intense, man. Does it like reverberate in your chest like a lot of people will say yes. Yeah They're up close on the edge of them trees doing it you will feel it that's so loud it's intense It's a lot of things if it's yeah because the female one I had was the loudest thing I've ever heard in my whole life
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's not a male what I think that that's a lot scarier than the female it can paralyze you too man you just can't move Yeah. Sometimes you probably couldn't even stand up. I can imagine that also. Research is a lot of times as long nights, Jeremiah. No, yeah. It's boring. I've been out a few.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And the dumbest thing you can do is go tromp through the woods. Yeah, yeah. I've been out a few weekends. There's times to tromp to the woods. Especially if you don't know where you're trampling. And especially when what happened right here today. Yeah. Why would you go anywhere else?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Why would I want to even walk to? Just. Go right here. Sure. Why would I even want to walk in there? True. Okay, I'm not, I'm kind of fearless. The next day is the events of Thursday, July 19th.
Starting point is 00:42:14 In this episode, we're not going to go into that because I've already spent four whole episodes about the events of that Thursday. I was able to go out with Ronnie and Dwayne. Denise was also present. and we spent about eight hours in all where they were allowing me to record their conversations. So if you want to know in great detail, go back to episode 517,
Starting point is 00:42:41 and there's a four-part series all about that Thursday where I have conversations throughout the day. We hear some roars from the woods, some very, very weird stuff. It is worth going back and listening to these four episodes. We are going to go ahead and continue with July 20th with an extended interview with Gwendolyn Guthrie, which I found extremely interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:11 She's about to share what happened in a part of the area that I did not get to go to, but she had quite the sighting. It's important to know before we get into Gwendolyn's interview that at the same time that all this is going on on Sunday. I was also out in the Oak Hole area with a few individuals looking at tracks that had been found. It was myself. Some unnamed individuals. Denise,
Starting point is 00:43:45 Dwayne was there. There's some very interesting things that happened that time when we were up in Oak Hole. I don't really have a lot of things recorded since. my devices were not working at the time. They were out of battery. This is where there was an audio clip recorded. I'm going to try to play this here. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:08 It's been analyzed quite a bit. It's found that have some form of language. This was recorded by Andrew. Also, this is the time when I was sitting in my lawn chair for about five minutes and I couldn't move. Very, very strange. Yeah, it's very hard to explain, but yeah, for five minutes I was almost paralyzed, was not able to move just staring directly into the woodline across the oak hole meadow. I'm going to go ahead and play that audio clip here.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Do you hear that? I'd play that same clip again, this time boosted in audacity. Do you hear that? It's an interesting clip. I've had a few people listen to it, including David Ellis from the Olympic Project. He says that the part that sounds like me talking is way too low for that to be me. That part kind of messes with me a lot. Also, sounds like we have some sort of whoop.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Some people say that sounds like the message tones on a smartphone. Not the case. I went ahead and checked out the spectrograph compared to different types of smartphone. notification sounds also the area we're in. You really can't get service. So something really, really to listen to a few times, some strange stuff going on up there. We're going to continue with interview extended with Gwendolyn Guthrie.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Gwendolyn Guthrie is an individual that I met out there in Oak Ridge. She's part of the searching for Sasquatch team. And a great group of people had a lot of good, times hanging out with them, hanging out in the same Airbnb. It was just a big party. But Gwendolyn, I've invited you on to share specifically what you experienced out there in Oak Ridge as you had some really interesting things happen in your own little adventure that was going on. Thank you for having me, Jeremiah. I really appreciate it. It's nice to get to talk to you again. So it'll be fun to get to talk about my experience.
Starting point is 00:46:53 We went out to Oak Ridge, Oregon, and we were out there for Sasquatch Summerfest. You're right. It was a lot of fun. It was kind of like a big party. Everybody had a good time. Everybody got to meet me people, talk to people that they knew in the past. So it was a really fun time. And during that, obviously, we're all investigators.
Starting point is 00:47:15 In our downtime, we were always out whenever we had. had a little bit of downtime, daytime, nighttime, whatever. We was out in different groups researching. And on one of the days, we had went up to this old mountain town. And for life, me, I can't remember what it's called. But it was still active in a way that summer, this past summer. But the rows were very shallow. The rows are starting to break down quite a bit. And from my understanding, that was the last season that they were going to have that old little abandoned mining town open. Nobody obviously lived there. It was kind of like a ghost town, but there were still people coming up there periodically, I guess, to mine and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:06 So a lot of mines were still active up there. We never saw Seoul the whole time we were up there. We went up there. We saw the abandoned town. We looked around quite a bit. We use some spearbox devices, obelisk devices, different things like that. Kind of a mixed bag investigation, do a little bit of Bigfoot, a little bit of ghost. And we stayed up there quite a while.
Starting point is 00:48:32 The sun had started to set. And we were coming down. And as we were coming down, it got darker and darker and darker. and we came up on this mom and her two baby dears. And the mom and one of the baby deers went way up on top of the ridge. It was a real steep climb, but they made it. And the second baby didn't. So we were thinking, okay, we'll just keep going.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It'll curve our hard right and it'll go up the ridge. So the way the road was set up, we had a drop off on our left as we were coming down and then the steep ridge on the right. And we got down to where it's kind of leveled out a little bit more on our left side. And that was when the mom and the baby deer jumped up and the one baby deer didn't make it. So we're thinking we can just keep driving it'll, it'll cut right, it'll head up that ridge back to its mom. Well, it continued to stay in front of us on this road. So we're like, we're going to have to stop and try to scare it off the road because we don't want it to get too far from its mom and get lost.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So at that point, we were kind of done. We were packed up, ready to go. We were just trying to get this baby deer out of our way. And everybody had already unpacked. Like, I had already unhooked my fanny pack. I had already, you know, taken some equipment out of my bag. We were just kind of done for the night. It was really late.
Starting point is 00:50:07 and so we were talking up front and the guy at front goes, well, why don't somebody jump out? We'll run it off the road so that way it will get out of its way and it can curve and come back to its mom. And I was like, I volunteer, I'll do it, I'll do it, you know. I'll chase it all through it. I'm fastest one here. So we get a little bit further and we're like, okay, now's the time.
Starting point is 00:50:35 You know, we're close enough. We're going to chase it. off to chase it back to its mom. And so I actually have to jump out over Sherry. And so Sherry is trying to hurry up and get up and get out of my way. And I jump out over her and I just take off run after this deer. I'm running as fast as I can. And down the way, I'd say probably about, oh, 300 yards.
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Starting point is 00:53:05 Everything happens for a Reese's. Maybe 200. I'm not great with that long of a distance. but maybe two to 300 yards away. The road curve slightly left, and I'm running towards that curve. And I'm like, I'm never going to catch this deer. What was I thinking?
Starting point is 00:53:32 This was so stupid. And then I cut to the left, like the road goes. And as soon as I cut to the left, I'm running and it straightens back out again. And I look and right in front of me, probably about, I don't know, maybe 20 feet in front of me, maybe a little more. There was this big, massive shadow. And at first I was like, oh, that's my shadow.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And I just keep running because if you don't remember, I had just run away from the truck who was up above me further up the road that I had just run away from. They had their lights on. I thought it was my shadow at first. and as I'm still running towards it, I realized there's no legs moving. And then it dawned on me. I'm like, oh, that's probably not my shadow.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So I skid to a stop. My feet slid on the gravel road. And I just looked at it. And I was kind of stunned and I was like, I'm not seeing what I'm seeing. This has got to be a shadow from somebody up the road. They're walking towards me, something. So I'm watching it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 and I tilt my head to the right. And I'm thinking, okay, it's going to tilt to the right. It's my shadow. And it tilts its head to the left. And I'm like, okay, not me, not my shadow. I look up to see where the truck is and I actually have to look around the trees just to even see a little slit of the lights of the truck. So I'm like, wait, that angles off for it.
Starting point is 00:55:13 to be from the truck lights. I look back again. I tilt my head to the left and it tilts it head to the right. And I'm like, I immediately like, I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Oh my gosh, I'm seeing what I'm seeing. And then I start taking note of the shape, the definition. It looks like it had like an elongated conical shape head. Like it was not like a super cone shape, but it was like tall, more rounded slightly at the top. And it was just standing there. And obviously the deer had run off. As soon as I saw it and I slowed my pace, the deer had run off and went to the left down away a little bit. And so I look up again and I'm like, guys, guys, guys, I need lights. I need something. I'm looking at something, a big shadow and I'm like yelling at them, the rest of our team. And he's, I hear Chad up the road. He's like,
Starting point is 00:56:11 We're coming. So I'm like, please, hurry, I need lights. Because I wanted to see, like, see, see it rather than just being a shadow. But when I looked up to yell for some lights, I looked back and it had gone. But before I looked back, right when I went to look up, I saw it take one, two steps towards the road, same direction. The deer had just, the baby deer had just run. And it was so fast like it happened, boom, boom. I looked up.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I was already in the motion to look up when I saw it take its steps. So when I look back real fast, it was gone. And I was thinking, I didn't just see what I think I saw. There's still nobody here. There's still no lights. I'm still by myself and this thing just walked and now I've lost it. And so finally, Chad comes with lights. I immediately grab it out of his hand.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I go walk over to the area where it was just to see what the, terrain looked like against that because it sloped up real far real steep like a rock face and that's what I thought I saw the shadow was just shining on but it wasn't a shadow was an actual full silhouette of something so I'm looking at the terrain right in front of that rock face to see like okay how much room did I have to stand is there footprints is there smashed down grass and I'm looking to see where it could have gone. And at that point, my mind was just kind of swirling with all the what ifs. Like, what if, what if it was just the truck lights? What if, you know, you could have just saw it. Your mind tries to find ways to talk yourself out of what you just saw. And when I was telling Chad,
Starting point is 00:58:01 like, I couldn't get the words out of what I had saw. It was like, you know, trying to put together a puzzle that's like speeding by so fast. Like my thoughts were just racing and I was trying to explain it to him and I was like, I swear I'm not crazy. I swear I'm not crazy. Because it sucked for me because I had literally just ran away from the group. And then I see something when I'm by myself. Like I'm telling him I swear I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like it was right there. And they were like, okay, we understand. You know, we got to get in the car. You know, we got to get out of this area. We're going to go see if we can, you know, follow this deer, see if we get still fine. I'm like, you guys don't understand. And so we got in the car and the truck. And I just remember the whole time just replaying in my head over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Like, what else could it have been? What else was it? But I just remember thinking that I really just see my first big foot, that I really just see what I thought I saw. And, you know, it still kind of plagues my mind because I just, I saw it, but I didn't see, see it. And my whole goal is just to have that real good solid siding, especially a daylight one. But one where I can see definition and color. And I almost, in a way, felt cheated because I didn't have my flashlight.
Starting point is 00:59:36 with me. I didn't have anybody else with me that could give me another perspective. And so we get in the car, I'm replaying it my head, and then I'm thinking, did it get the baby deer? I was worried about the baby deer. Did it get the baby deer? Is that what it was going after? Why, you know, why did it go the same direction as the baby deer? I'm thinking, oh, that baby deer is dead. And I just felt so bad because I chased it right into it. But then we cut around to the left and then to the right and then there's the baby deer. Just standing there. in the middle of the road still. And in that moment, it finally decides to veer off the road.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And we're like, okay, the baby deer is going to make it back to its mom. But what was that? And I still don't 100% know what it was. But I think it's because I've worked so hard to talk myself out of what I saw. And I feel a little cheated that I didn't see it full on with details. definition and color like I would have liked. But overall, it was a really cool experience. And I remember talking a bill about afterwards,
Starting point is 01:00:47 he was super excited about it because, you know, he was determined to give some people, you know, this Bigfoot experience. And I feel like I got it, but he wasn't right there with me. But it was a really cool night. Gwendolyn, that's absolutely incredible. I mean, to remind listeners of what Bill had said when I talked to him a while back,
Starting point is 01:01:16 well, first, so this is on Sunday, right? I am, I think it could have been because I think I left on a weird day, like a Monday or Tuesday. Because Bill had told me about how on the last day, He had come up to you and he had said, are you ready to see your first Bigfoot or Sasquatch? And you'd said, yeah, definitely. He'd also come up to me after that and asked me the same question. And I believe that that happened on a Sunday. And that happened.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Oh. Yeah. Exactly. Wow. And you might not know this. You probably don't, just because we haven't talked. before those sense but and i just want to share it real quick uh so listeners bear with me um but i i left on i left on a tuesday um the near the end i had pretty much a serious infection in my
Starting point is 01:02:28 legs that i got from up in the woods and so um monday night or monday i had to go into springfield in order to go to the doctors, get some antibiotics. So the last day, the last day I was there, I had to cancel interviews, and I was kind of like, forget this, I'm just going to go out and get a burger and drive around Hills Creek Reservoir and just enjoy this, right? And so I drove out there, and as I was driving down the road, and I don't know if you got down there, but this is way out there, right? It's a big reservoir south of Oak Ridge.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I remember driving down the road and looking over to this large pine tree that was covered with ivy on the front of it. And from what I saw it looked like it was the basic silhouette that you would see of a big foot that was about eight to nine feet tall. And I saw it for a few seconds and then it disappeared. And so I get that, I get that feeling of like, I don't know if I experienced what I saw. It may have been, I know I had a fever at the time, it may have been some kind of hallucination, I don't know, could have been the medicine that was working in my system, or it could have been something that actually happened. So I get like, ever since then, I've been trying to talk myself out of it, right? and it's just, it's very, very strange. But part of me is like, why can't I just accept it as well?
Starting point is 01:04:11 You know? That's just very weird. So anyways, I wanted to put that in there for a little context of we were both approached by Bill and then we both had weird things happen afterwards. Yeah. That is interesting because he was just, the way he asked me, He was like, oh, you're going to have one. Like, he just knew.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And I was like, I was like, well, I sure hope so. And in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, probably not. But, you know, I'm going to go with it. I'll have faith in it. You know, like, let's do it. Let's, you know, I'll be gung-ho. I'll believe this. But in the background of mine, I'm still like,
Starting point is 01:04:56 I've been doing this for, you know, probably good 10 years, Bigfoot research. So I still haven't seen one. so maybe, maybe not. But I really hoped. Like, I really had faith that, you know, he had his good intentions. He seemed like he was really certain.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I'd never thought that I would actually see that. I never thought. And believe it or not, I'm very grounded in reality. I do paranormal research. I do Bigfoot research. I'll research anything that's a mystery, really. And I do it from a very, you know, grounded perspective.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I try to not be too far out of the box and try to look at things kind of with a scientific perspective, you know, always looking for an explanation otherwise first. And that's the way I approach things. So when I saw that, I spent so much time trying to convince myself out of what I saw and another explanation for it. But I even watched, there was footage of inside of the truck as somebody was recording me chasing the deer, and you can see me around the curve.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And I'm like, and so I'm watching the people, because I wanted to see, did anybody get out of the truck and stand at a distance to where it would account for a shadow against this big cliff edge? So I watched that video back three and four times. The only person that got out of the car that kind of stood in front of the truck with Sherry. But when you watch the video back,
Starting point is 01:06:36 the headlights actually cut off at her, like the back of her chest area, like almost at the very top of her back. So it wouldn't have created a full silhouette if it was from her. And then I watched Chad. And Chad was too far out of the way of the headlights to cast any sort of shadow.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And then I tell myself, you're being silly, you're just looking for a way out of what you saw because you saw that it was solid. You know, like I knew it was solid. Once I got down there and I skidded to a stop and I stayed in my place, I was close enough to it where I could really see it wasn't a shadow. It was a solid, dark silhouette. But I really did.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I tried hard to find other ways to explain it away. But it was just standing there and it had that comment. conical shaped head. And it was just watching me. And it copied me, but not exactly copied. And that's what was so weird. It was almost like playful. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 01:09:40 It's absolutely incredible. I haven't heard, I think, in an account where, yeah, the whole playful way. I've never really heard that before. It's super, super interesting. So Sherry was with you in the car. Who else was in there as well? Priscilla and Steve were in the front. And then Sherry was on my left.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I was in the middle in the back of the truck. And then there was chat on my right. Ava was with us too. She's the little mini Bigfooter. So they were all with us. We were all in the car together. I was sitting in the back of the truck, the back seat of the truck. I had to dive over Sherry to get out.
Starting point is 01:10:31 But there was quite a few people in the truck. And that's why I was so frustrated because I was thinking, why couldn't anybody been with me and saw it with me? I also was just messaged Tobe to find out. the area where you guys were. You guys were way out there. Yeah, that was an area I didn't get to go to. And yeah, I've heard other people talk about this area as well.
Starting point is 01:10:58 And it is an extremely active area and extremely intense. So, I mean, personally, because of, I've talked to a lot of people from the Oak Ridge area about this area at times. I'm not surprised that you had that happen in that. area, Quendellan, at all. Yeah, and the remoteness of this area was just so vast that all you could see for miles was tree cover. So I'm honestly not surprised either. I mean, if he's going to be out there surviving on nature, it's going to be that area,
Starting point is 01:11:37 obviously that area, because it has everything. And it's super remote, super secluded. and it's just the perfect area. But it wasn't a big one. It wasn't super, super, super tall. It was maybe like seven foot. And it was when it cocked its head from side to side, the way it moved, it moved like its upper torso along with everything.
Starting point is 01:12:10 So it moved one way. And you saw the shoulders and everything kind of moved with it. And then the other way, you saw the shoulders and everything move with it. So that's what I thought was super intriguing. And that's what made me kind of look up the hill like, what are they doing? Because I thought it was maybe their shadow second. But I couldn't see the truck. I could only see a sliver of the lights through the tree leaves.
Starting point is 01:12:35 So I want to ask a question. What are the chances that this was someone randomly walking through the woods like a lost human? Absolutely zero. Honestly, zero. Yeah, there was nothing anywhere around. Yes, there's that abandoned mining town up there. But the only access road is the road that we took. I can't see anybody hiking for that far to even get up there. I mean, it's miles and miles back. It's probably about five miles back once you start hitting the gravel road going up the mountain. So it's pretty far back there. So I can't see anybody getting up there that far and then being brave enough to face a truck up the road with a person staring right in front of them. Also, wherever it took off to, it was fast, very fast. Another interesting similarity between yours and other, well, another experience I was with is that this happened after you put everything away. you kind of are like, well, we're done. Put it all away.
Starting point is 01:13:48 There's no, you weren't ready to film a dock or anything like that. You just kind of sounds like you're chilling out. Oh, there's a deer in the middle of the road. I'll go out and help it because I'm a nice person. And that's when the stuff happens. That's kind of how it was when we heard the vocalizations up by the meadow. We were just chilling out. I wasn't in recording mode.
Starting point is 01:14:10 It's just, it's very interesting how that always kind of seems to happen. That is that does seem to be like a factor that that hits between sighting and experiences because you can go out and research for hours and not get anything and go back to your camp and then you start getting everything happening around at camp. It's just it is weird. They're not dumb. They're very smart. They know when to do things.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And it's just the more I'm out there doing this in the field. and getting to know what I think is, you know, my version of getting to know Bigfoot, it's just mind-blowing to figure out how intelligent they are and how on cue they are. And they know what you're doing. They're not dumb. And it just kind of blows on mind. Oh, absolutely. And I'm probably going to, I'm going to release this around when you guys release the Oak Ridge episode, which could be months from now. but yeah so it's a weird
Starting point is 01:15:19 weird such a weird thing because if you think about all the things that happened with I'm thinking about people from your group and by your group
Starting point is 01:15:26 I mean searching for Sasquatch team you had including you one two three four sightings
Starting point is 01:15:38 you had yours you had the Sasquatch jumping out of the tree by the meadow. You had Chad seeing the one running down the side of the mountain and then you saw or you had the group that saw them in the trees when they were going to pick moss. I think this is this is before I got out there. I got out there on Wednesday. So that's a solid four sightings that just were not documented because did for some reason or another. I mean, stuff happens when you don't have the stuff ready and it happen to me too. It's just, it's such,
Starting point is 01:16:18 it's the curse of Bigfoot. That's really what you have to call it. But I don't know, maybe, maybe Jason is holding on to some stuff and, you know, who knows, he'll release his documentary. Did you have any other interesting adventures you were involved with during your time there? honestly whole trip was just one big adventure and I'm excited to go back I actually have already tried to start planning out going back there in the spring because I want to get back up to that mining town I mean I know like technically the access road will be closed but I'm not planning on going too far back in there I'm not probably won't go up to the mining town but I definitely want to get up to that same area where I saw what I saw because you know
Starting point is 01:17:07 We talked to a lot of people while we were there, a lot of daytime sightings, which is very unique. And it seemed like that was more kind of the norm for that area was to have a daytime siding. So, you know, what better place to go if you want to see it full on than that area. So I'm already planning to go back out there because I want to go back to that spot. And I want to just sit there and try some new techniques and stuff that some of the other people from around the area have tried and say are. are good ways to get some sort of interaction. Because I do think that Bigfoot is different based on your location. You know, I think that, you know, just like people from Kentucky have a certain slang to their, to their lingo, to their verbiage.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Ohioans don't as much. They have a certain accent. Everybody all over the U.S., even though we're barely separated, we have. different habits, different behaviors, different favorite things. And I find that it seems to be like that with Bigfoot too. Go to different areas, different techniques work. Different types of sightings occur in certain areas. So, you know, I'm really excited to go back out there and try some of the things that the locals said work for interaction with Bigfoot there. Absolutely. I mean, it was crazy how much stuff was happening for us during the
Starting point is 01:18:38 12 to 4 p.m. time frame when we were out in the woods and also a lot of people, I agree with you, I was talking to a lot of people at my booth and they were saying the same thing. A lot of daytime sighting. So are you saying that you might actually go back in the springtime? Yeah, yeah, I'm already trying to get some plans in order. So, yeah, I want to get back up there and head back out to their area. So that'd be before the, I'm planning on going to.
Starting point is 01:19:08 the festival again next year. So that would be, you're talking outside of the festival. Yes. Yeah, it'll be outside of the festival and then I also will be there for that. That's awesome. So I have some follow-up questions for you as well. Just because of things I started to experience, I want to ask this a certain way. Let me think. Do you feel like you were affected in any way by the sighting that you had either mentally or physically? I don't think so. I don't think so. I was just kind of stuck in shock mode for quite a few days. Gotcha. And when you got home, did you start to have any dreams about that area at any time? I actually, no, I don't know if it was that area, but I did have a dream that kind of was a continuance of that experience.
Starting point is 01:20:18 So I'm not sure if it was the same area because it was more flat terrain, but there was a big foot there. And I just remember playing peekaboo with it. And then when I couldn't find it, I went looking around for it and I couldn't find it anymore. And then that was the rest of my dream, just trying to find the one I was. playing peekaboo with. But I felt like it was kind of a continuance from that situation. And maybe it was because it was stuck on my head for so many days. But it wasn't until after I got back.
Starting point is 01:20:48 And I think I talked on the phone with Bill. And then that night was when I had that weird dream. Yeah. When I got back, I started having extremely vivid dreams of that area that we, that we were in where we had interactions and almost to the point where I felt like I could interact with what was happening in the dream at the time. I don't know if you've ever had any like that
Starting point is 01:21:17 where it's just very, very intense and you're not even sure if it's real life or a dream. So I was curious if that had happened to you at all. And then also it feels like you as well are definitely feeling drawn back to that area. Oh, 100%. Yes. 100%.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Thing where you close your eyes and you can just see the area. It's very much in your mind. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I remember the whole scenery from everything. Just it was all consuming. That's all I could think about of that night was just that particular incident.
Starting point is 01:22:04 So here's the thing, Gwendolyn. It's a weird thing I'm starting to see. Because I've been talking to a few people that were with me up in the meadow area, which is a totally different area than where you're at. But you're kind of experiencing the same thing, which is that different people are being drawn back to certain areas where they had some kind of interaction with a Bigfoot-type creature. And it's just it's very weird.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I don't know if this happens to different people when they have encounters in different parts of the U.S. Or maybe it has something to do with this whole area of Oak Ridge. Maybe there's something strange going on there that draws people back or I don't know. It's just, it's kind of an interesting thread that is coming out in all these little interviews that I'm doing about the area. in that week of July, which feels like it was a year ago, but it's really just a few months ago. It does feel like it's been ages ago already. But I find that interesting. So pretty much everybody who spoke with has expressed interest on going back there then.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah? Oh, absolutely. I mean, so here's a way I explain it. And hopefully people remember this show that came out 20 years ago. which is called Lost. I don't know if you remember that. Oh, I think I do. That I feel so old.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Okay, so I'll explain it. So it's this group of people that crash landed on an island in the high strangeness all over the place, like polar bear on the middle of a tropical island, right? Weird stuff. So they fight and fight and fight, try to get off the island for like seasons, right? Then they get back to their normal lives and then all they can think about is trying to get back to this place because it's drawing them back. And I'm not going to spoil the show because people.
Starting point is 01:24:03 People need to watch it if they haven't. But it has a lot of similarities where it, for some reason, it just seems to draw people back in. So I don't know. I haven't quite figured that out. Maybe more will be revealed when, you know, we get back. I'll be back July. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Agents who are realtors do more than open doors.
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Starting point is 01:26:05 This is a job for Indeed. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. You might even be back sooner. Hopefully you're able to get back there sooner. But when you, when you think about that week, were there any other instances where you feel like you had an interaction or something happened that was Bigfoot related in the same area. You were out in the woods or besides the mine area?
Starting point is 01:26:56 Not really. I mean, we had a lot of strange sounds around us at different given points. But, you know, you're out in the wilderness. There's a lot of noises out there. So they were super interesting. and, you know, something more to link into, which we did in the moment, but it wasn't, this is definitely Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Was there anything out in the woods that was very hard to understand what was going on, not necessarily Bigfoot related, but you just, you had no reason as to why you found something or heard something or just was totally out of the ordinary? Well, that one, that same day when we were up in the the like ghost mining town we had the
Starting point is 01:27:50 I think it was camera if we were using the obvious or spirit box in the moment but we had one of our devices out and we heard this weird like little screech and it was like no animal I've heard before and I was like it didn't really sound like an animal
Starting point is 01:28:08 but it could have been I'm like I've never heard of the animal before But the device, I can't remember exactly what it said, but I remember it said something that connected it to the noise. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. Or always said, that was me. That's what it said. That was me. So it felt kind of separate from the whole Bigfoot thing.
Starting point is 01:28:32 It felt very paranormal. But that did happen while we were up there. And that was the same day that I saw what I saw. Okay. That's interesting. because Sherry also had a really weird thing. She's talked about this. So in the meadow area, she had walked off by herself down the road.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And this is about like, this is late at night. So it's all dark. And she said that she had heard her voice called from the woods multiple times. So. That's right. That did happen. That was a totally different night. Yes, we were actually, I was with Chad Dayama and Jason Kinsey.
Starting point is 01:29:11 We were, we had decided we were going to cut off of the road. We were up like a different mountainside. They had me so many places. I couldn't hardly keep them straight. But we decided to cut off the road and we went up this real steep hill and we ended up finding a path. And the idea was, oh, cool. This is like a super like remote path. Nobody ever hardly uses it.
Starting point is 01:29:36 You can definitely tell, let's just take this path. Eventually it'll get us back to the right. rest of the group because we had the rest of the group up at the end at the dead end further up the road and everybody was kind of rebranded off in the smaller groups everybody was kind of doing their own thing so I was with Jason and Chad and we were walking this trail and all of a sudden Jason stops and he goes do you hear that and I had only heard a little flit of it and I was like yeah, that sounds like people talking. And Chad goes, oh, it's probably just then down by the car.
Starting point is 01:30:16 And I pull up my map because I just felt like we're definitely further than the car than we think. So I pull up my nav and I look and I'm like, no, we're right here. The car is way over there. And I show them on the map. And I'm like, there's no way we're hearing them talk and regular voices from all the way over here. And then we walk a little bit more. and then Chad stops right in front of us. He's like, Trish, hear that?
Starting point is 01:30:41 And I didn't hear anything that time. And I can't remember Jason had heard at that point or not. But I didn't hear it that time. And Chad's like, I just heard people talking. And we're like, no way, this is so cool. So finally we get out and we meet up with the rest of the group. And then Sherry tells us that she heard voices saying her name. And I'm like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:31:05 we all heard voices, but again, this was yet another area. As you know, that whole area over there where those mountains and everything are, they're so remote. Most of it's only logging, mining, stuff like that. It's just access roads. There's not a whole lot of people that's going to frequent that area. And I mean, there's no way it was 2 o'clock in the morning, I think, by the time we made it out. And so this probably was about 1 a.m. when we were hearing this, there's no way there's people up here running around on this mountain side down the mountain roads just talking and normal voices and we can hear them there's no way so that was really really strange and it correlated when we went back down and sherry had heard voices as well now is this
Starting point is 01:31:53 the same time when you guys found the wood knots pulled out of the trees up there yes okay so that's That was the, yeah, that was the same area. We were walking and we found three wood knots. They were just, I don't know if they were like banged out of the trees, like the trees were termite ridden and something banged them out, or if they were ripped out. But I never knew that knots led down in a tree that far. But on the other side of the tree where the knot went inside a tree,
Starting point is 01:32:31 it extended out probably almost a foot. So they were really far into the tree. And I'm thinking now there's three in a row. No, there was four. There was three together. And there was one way off up the, they were all sitting on a log just perfectly. But the fourth one was sitting up further on the log.
Starting point is 01:32:51 And like, dude, okay, the ones that are right here on, like, blocking this path, there's three of them and there's three of us. And then there's that little one up there. what if that's for Ava? So we were like, you know, we need to like trade gifts. So we each left something behind to take the knots. And we ended up coming across a tree that was laying there.
Starting point is 01:33:16 And I was like, I was like, oh, guys right here, there was a tree that had been eaten away by termites a little bit. And there was a little tiny piece of a knot sticking out. And I was like, let's see how much strength it takes to get this knot out of this knot out of this tree. And so Jason's pulling and pulling and pulling and he can't get it out. So I just start like banging away at it. And even banging away at it, even though the down tree was termite ridden, it took forever. And I just chipped away a little bit and exposed a little bit more than not. So however these knots ended up coming out of those trees that they were removed from is beyond me. but somebody with opposable thumbs, whether it be Bigfoot or something else, must have taken those out and just sat them, placed them there perfectly.
Starting point is 01:34:05 But I don't know why. It was very interesting, though. No, absolutely. I know that because I was in the group that was hanging out by that vehicle at the end of the road. And so I know you guys, like that was the night you guys went up and then you were gone for like 45 minutes. to an hour and then we were trying to find you and then you were running down the mountain and we happened to intersect with you. So I remember that. So that area, that's the meadow area. Oh, okay. Yep. So that's where Ronnie and Dwayne had their experience, where Chad saw the big foot at the edge of the meadow, where Chad's fruit up in the tree, the banana got peeled and eaten, and we found that on the ground the next day. That's all in the...
Starting point is 01:34:55 that area and there's been a ton of activity in that area. Yeah. So did you go up to that area any other time or is that the only time that you had gone up to that area there? I do remember we went there one of the earlier nights we were there. I think it was either the first or second night. We were there and Chad wanted to show us the what he called the banana tree where he hung in all the fruit and stuff. And when we went back to go look at it, he was like freaking out because something had yet again
Starting point is 01:35:32 manipulated that whole area and moved things around again. Yeah, taking the fruit out of the tree. So I guess we went there that night. Yeah, there that night. And then I guess, yeah, I guess it was the same area several nights later when the other stuff happened.
Starting point is 01:35:50 That's wild. That is just, that's so incredible. especially if you'd once you start hearing everyone's story and you start piecing it together it is very very cool I mean because you have I mean Jason and Chad staying in a tent by themselves in that same area which is wild I talked to them about that too do you know if the whole team is planning on going back to the festival next year yes yeah we've all agreed that we're all going to go as a whole team. Did you have any interesting people that shared citing reports to you guys over there?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yeah, there was a lot of, I think that a lot of paranormal reports came to me just because I think it was one of the few openly paranormal investigators there. Just because that's my forte. I had a lot of paranormal stories come my way. I talked a lot with Bill. He shared some of his experiences with me. Yeah, there was just a lot of the people, mostly speakers, we were all talking, and then I got quite a few paranormal stories. Did you get any reports of like the Faye or anything like that in that area? Actually, no. Nobody ever came and talked to me about any kind of Faye experiences.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Okay, I've had one person reach out to me, but they wouldn't come on the show, and they just said they've had experiences with Faye and Woodland spirits and weird stuff like that in that area. So couldn't get them to go into detail, but something to keep an ear out for. I wouldn't recommend, I'm going to close this out first. So Gwendolyn, it has been a pleasure chatting with you. It's great to finally get you on the show and to get your version of what happened during Sasquatch Summerfest last year. Thank you for coming on. Thank you so much for having me, Jeremiah. All right, Sherry, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Hi, I'm Sherry and I'm from searching for Sasquatch. I'm an investigator forum and I do film and I went up to Oregon from the 21st and Chad and Gwendolyn and Jason went up this one hill and went for a walk out in the woods and I was on the road with Steve and you and and Priscilla was sleeping in the car, and I got bored talking. So I went for a walk, and I ended up where they went up in the hill. And I was just walking, and all of a sudden I hear, Sherry. And I'm like, one to one? And nobody did answer me.
Starting point is 01:38:50 So I started talking to it and never answered back. So I went back and I told you guys that I heard my name. And it ended up that was a same. same hill that the three of them went up. And when Jason was out in the woods, he heard talking out there. He did? Yes. Oh, he didn't tell me about that.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Yeah, he said, oh, I hear some talking out there too, yeah. Okay, interesting. How far away from the meadow area was this where you heard the voice? I don't know how far, maybe half a mile. Okay, yep. So it was in between. the metal and the where we were. About halfway.
Starting point is 01:39:35 I was a little freaked out, actually. I remember that. I was like, I didn't sign up for voices coming out of the woods, but Yeah. I'm not going back. I ask you guys to go back. And you're like, I don't do with those. Yeah, no, thanks. After the events of the festival
Starting point is 01:39:54 on the 23rd, which is a Tuesday, Jason and Chad had a camp out up in the Oak Hole area. I was able to sit down with Jason and then Chad separately, virtually, and get their thoughts about what happened when they were up there doing a camp out by themselves,
Starting point is 01:40:17 and if anything happened. My name is Jason Kensie. I am an animal expert. I am a bigfoot and cryptid researcher. and I'm also a filmmaker. This is what happened in Oak Ridge going over into the meadow where there has been people being ward at
Starting point is 01:40:46 and eyeshine being seen. So on Tuesday, July 23rd, Chad Daytonman and I, We traveled up into this area. We could see smoke from the fires, the wildfires that were burning all around us. The largest wildfire in the United States burning not too far from us. It didn't stop us. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.
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Starting point is 01:42:58 sponsored jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. We drove up into this meadow where people have these sightings, not just audio, but they
Starting point is 01:43:32 have actual Class A sightings where they actually. see the creatures. And it started like any, you know, any ordinary camping and exploring, went into this really nice meadow area. It was covered with wildflowers. It was quite pretty. And we were surrounded by thousands of acres of forest all around us.
Starting point is 01:44:05 We put out a banana. and some donuts right behind our tent, hoping that in the night these creatures would come walking up. And I was very excited, hoping that if we could hear them coming around. So as the sun was setting, I put out my camera gear and we got ready. and when the darkness hit and after, you know, nothing happening for a while there was a couple of birds that kind of went off in the darkness
Starting point is 01:44:48 which I always find odd because usually birds are sleeping and they usually squat if, you know, something comes around to disturb them. So we decided to go for a little walk in the darkness of the forest leaving our tents by themselves and as we walked in the darkness and we looked around we saw this massive trees like a structure where the tree was kind of pushed over obviously it could have been just snowload but we went up to it and we looked at it and it looked like you know you could see that something could be sleeping under it because it was still alive the tree was still alive and you could see that the way of the way that the way that the way that the branches were lying down, you could see that something had been lying there.
Starting point is 01:45:44 And after, you know, looking around some more, we really didn't, you know, see anything or find anything. And we went back to camp. That evening, we went to bed about, I won't say, maybe one in the morning. And up to that moment, there wasn't much going on in the night while we were sleeping. I did get woken up by something walking around the tent.
Starting point is 01:46:12 It wasn't too close to the tent. I was into the forest. I did listen to it for a little bit, walk around. And so I got up and I went over and I peaked out of the tent. We had a tent that we had these giant windows. And we didn't have anything, no tarp or nothing covering the tent. So I could just see right out as long as I put the light right up to the screen. And I didn't see anything.
Starting point is 01:46:46 I definitely could hear something walking. So in the morning, we woke up. It was early, maybe about 7 a.m. And as we stood there, just taking in all the beauty around us, the roar that came out from the forest. It was quite far away, but it was definitely a roar of something. I would say it was probably about two miles away. I wouldn't know. I'm not 100% because I didn't have a mission tape.
Starting point is 01:47:24 But I know it wasn't too close to the camp, and we could barely hear it. We almost missed it. Just at that moment, we had stopped. Sadly, I didn't have my camera rolling. And if I did, it probably wouldn't have picked it up. But it did roar twice, and it was pretty cool. I was hoping that it was going to move closer to where we were. I was very shocked that a lot of the sightings and a lot of the roars that people have been hearing
Starting point is 01:47:55 have been in broad daylight, like within 100 feet in the forest, roaring at them. Now, I'm not saying that what roared at us that day, that morning was a big foot. But it was kind of neat to hear it. And then after a couple hours of nothing else happening, we basically just jumped into the truck and we drove back to base camp. How loud were the footsteps that were around your tent? Well, to be honest, it was probably a smaller animal.
Starting point is 01:48:38 You can kind of hear when, when something heavy is walking. And I was lying there and, you know, just looking up the ceiling of the tent, listening to something, which is, you know, breaking twigs and breaking stuff behind the tent. The donuts were still out there
Starting point is 01:49:02 and same with the banana. The banana was still there. So whatever it was walking around, it definitely wasn't interested. in the yumminess that was out there on the branches. Absolutely. Did you have any visceral reaction to when you heard that roar, or is that similar to things you've heard before?
Starting point is 01:49:23 It's similar to what I've heard before. The things I've heard before have been much closer and much louder. It definitely was, it's interesting how a lot of the sightings and whatnot have been going on during broad daylight. I've interviewed hundreds of people on their encounters with seeing Bigfoot or having experiences with Bigfoot. And I would say 90% of the time, it's always at night, either right before sunset or just after sunset or in the middle of the night. So it's interesting how these creatures are moving around and there's a lot of activity in broad daylight, which I believe. maybe because the fires were going on
Starting point is 01:50:15 because we could see smoke. Like we could actually see billowing smoke from the fires. Like we were not far away. Wow, that's different than when I was up there. So that's pretty scary stuff. You could actually see the smoke clear. Well, not clear, but you could see billowing.
Starting point is 01:50:34 That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. We were close. It was, I don't know now, but then it was the biggest wildfire. in the United States. So that was pretty crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:50 You know, we could have turned sideways quite fast in the middle of the night. The bird noise that you heard in the dark, do you remember any specifics about, was it a short noise or a longer noise? Or do you remember any specifics about that? It was long. It was a longer noise.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Okay. So it was, to be honest, I really haven't heard that. heard some before. Not like that. It actually sounded odd. And now that I'm, now that I'm thinking about it, we actually heard it during the day too, like in the morning. Right before the roar, we heard that sound again. And it went on a few times. Yeah. So that lines up exactly with what happened. Yeah, that sounds very familiar. Because Denise, you know, actually communicates back and forth with the bird mimics sound in that area.
Starting point is 01:51:46 And it's just, it's like a bird sound that's just a little bit different than anything you've heard. And I don't know if you were able to see that happen, but it's a very, very weird thing to watch, just her make the bird noise. And then the, whatever it is in the woods, go back and forth and back and forth with like half a second between. And so hopefully she's talked about that earlier in this episode. Well, the funny thing is, I mean, I don't know why I forgot about this, but I actually filmed us.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I think Chad and I, we were like, I was squawking back and forth to this bird, and it was answering me back and forth. And then I did something, I think I held or something, and it stopped. And then I turned to chat and he said, I must have told it to off or something. It totally stopped. But I do remember, I think I filmed it. I have to go back and look at the footage to see if I, but I do remember talking or at least communicating. I was being silly back and forth and it was answering me back. And then I did something and it stopped.
Starting point is 01:53:03 It actually stopped. And I was like, oh, well, that was interesting. We had a similar situation happen on Sunday where Denise was communicating back and forth and another individual from the party started trying to do a different bird sound and that cut things off entirely. It was very strange. And the thing I've already talked to Jason and I'd love to talk to you about so you guys actually stayed overnight. You tent camped in that area as well. Yeah, we did a solo right where we got roared at. and right where
Starting point is 01:53:38 I heard the thing would ever crash through the woods. I didn't see it, so I'm not going to say what it was. But Duane said it was dark and big. Three people heard it. Duane's the only one that saw it.
Starting point is 01:53:52 We camped right there. And it was really quiet. It was eerily quiet. But the next morning, around 10 a.m., there was one long roar, but it was at a much further distance. But it was definitely clear.
Starting point is 01:54:14 It was the same thing that I heard. It was just further away. And so, yeah, heard it there. What day again was it that you had camped out with Jason there? So that would have been Jason. Wednesday. Jason left on Thursday, right? Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Jason left on Tuesday? I think it was Tuesday, I think. So, wait, no. Sunday was the last day of the conference. Monday, no, Tuesday night, yeah, because we didn't camp out on Monday. We drove around and did other stuff. It was Tuesday night, we camped out. And then Sherry and I camped out solo Wednesday night because Jason left Wednesday morning.
Starting point is 01:55:02 At any point, did you hear anything? So besides vocalizations, did you? hear anything else weird in the woods when you were camping out there? We'd hear a break or a crack here and there, but really not a whole lot other than the day with Dwayne
Starting point is 01:55:26 with the one we could hear really loud move and we'd hear it every multiple seconds and break another branch or step on something. Nothing that was intimidating. Absolutely. you've been involved with many, many different research expeditions. Do you feel like there is something going on in that area or it is just a group of people that are amped up and I already know what I would say, but I'm just curious what you're going to say.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I have never experienced so much activity in such a short period of time in my life. And I've experienced a lot of activity, habituating groups in my area. So, no, there was something. I almost wonder if the fires were, I don't know, but then all the reports, Jeremiah, all the reports in the areas that we were put where people say were a lot, hunters, I mean, I'm told there's people that won't hunt in this area anymore. and the area that we did all this research is like a one square mile circle. And so I think there is something there.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I don't know if the fires irritated them or whatnot or just us being there did. But I do know after the second night, things did slow down, but they didn't totally stop. Sure. I've made the mistake of telling some people that are not Bigfoot people about, what I experienced up there on Thursday and they absolutely think that I'm crazy now and it's just the stuff that happened
Starting point is 01:57:18 during that week in that area was a special kind of intense that I've never experienced before. It's very, very weird up in that area 100%. I'm still working for it. I'm looking forward to next year. I've already committed
Starting point is 01:57:38 to go back to. Yeah. I told Priscilla, yeah, I will definitely be back there no yeah i talk to everyone i need to and uh i'll be there 100%. Um i would not miss it uh hopefully i'll be wearing pants not shorts though so no no reactions this time bigfoot society will be right back after these messages agents who are realtors do more than open doors they analyze market trends interest rates comps they can tell you about flood zones mixed use zones and decode acronyms like HOA, APR, MLS. They connect you to lawyers, contractors,
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Starting point is 01:59:53 Everything happens for a Reese's. On Wednesday the 24th, Sherry and Chad were able to also have a overnight camp out in the same area. What follows is a quick interview with Sherry telling about what happened on the overnight of Wednesday, the 24th. On the Wednesday the 24th, we went up by the field again and camped out. And Chad and I, it was about 11 o'clock, and we played music really, really loud, and we were dancing on the road trying to get attention. And then we just went to bed and we didn't really get anything that night. We thought maybe that would cause, get some attention,
Starting point is 02:00:50 but I guess they were fed up with us. were the fire's pretty bad up there at that time uh no the fire the smoke was not as bad that night during the conference that was horrible yeah but yeah it was right that wasn't that bad bad up there i still don't have my voice back though yeah i i'm kind of there too um what kind of music were you playing up there oh chad's music 80s rock nice annoying annoying music I guess they weren't big fans of it. No. Well, see, last time we did that somewhere, we got attention and we got stuff thrown at us.
Starting point is 02:01:34 So, oh, do it again. But it wasn't there. It was up in Michigan. We did that. I talked to Jason the other day. He had said that when they went up, which would have been the night before, they had put out some things around the tent. Did you guys put out anything at all?
Starting point is 02:01:53 We didn't put anything. The banana was still there. And when they put donuts out, and that was still there too. Untouched? Yeah. Okay. Did you hear any weird birds at night up there? We had whistling.
Starting point is 02:02:12 That's it. All right. Tell me about the whistling. Just a, you know, a whistle in the middle of the night. That's it. Really? Do you remember what time of night approximately there was? Could bed about 2 o'clock because, yeah, I had to go pee. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:02:33 And I went out there and I got a whistle. It was loud. You were out there by yourself to relieve yourself and something whistled at you from the woods. Right. How did that make you feel? It was cool. Or you're like, whatever, you know, it's not the craziest thing of it. experienced. Yeah. Yeah. I've had screams at me and that. I'm just saying, hey, how are you doing?
Starting point is 02:03:02 Sure. Yeah. You're kind of whatever about it. You said it was pretty loud. Can you describe how loud it was? Well, it was off in the woods and I heard it. It was off by the field back there. And it was, it was It was like somebody was right by me doing it, kind of. That's how loud it was. It got that. But it, you know, it was far away, but I could hear that clearly. So were you, you were camped in the field, though, in the meadow, correct? No.
Starting point is 02:03:41 No. We were on the opposite side in another field. It was through the woods on the other side. It was flatter over there, so that's where we went. We were where Ryan was putting food up. Oh, so you were tent camping over by where people would hang out in nylon chairs and put up bananas in the tree and stuff. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:10 That's funny because I remember talking to people. I was like, they're probably going to be over here because there's no way you could tent camp in that meadow because it's all torn up and there's lots of holes. Yeah. Okay, interesting. Did you experience anything else that night that may not have seemed like a big deal to you, but still you experienced it? No, that was it. And we got up about noon and we left because we had to go catch the plane.
Starting point is 02:04:40 Gotcha. No knocks, no vocalizations, no anything like that? No, not that I heard. Perfect. Were there any points up there when it got extremely? quiet or was it just normal uh for it was quiet the whole time that's why the whistle was so out there that was there was no sound can you explain what the quiet was like up there i don't know you know how something's just there's no birds no frogs no no no bugs there's
Starting point is 02:05:17 just no sound it's that kind of eerie but i like it oh okay Yeah, I mean, I experienced it too up there. And that was the first time I experienced it. And it was a little off-putting because it was a new one for me. And I was like, man, it is so quiet that it is weird hearing myself think. And it's just overwhelming. But I just wanted to see if you kind of experienced the same thing up there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Okay. Last question. So the bananas, when you left the area, the bananas were still untouched from the time. when Chad and Jason puts them out. Right. Okay. Gotcha. Very interesting.
Starting point is 02:06:00 All right. Well, Sherry, thank you for sharing about what you experienced up in the woods of that area over that week. Sherry Barcia. And I was up in Oregon, and we were on Milo Myrker, 42. And we pulled up on the side of the road, and we walked down the guard road. and Jason found a footprint and we're like, all right, yeah. So I casted it and then I told Jason, go walk down the rest of the way all by yourself so you don't contaminate anymore because we had a few people with us and there are trampling stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:41 We had to guard it, especially little kids. So he went down there and he found another print. So Chad did that one. and I don't know if it was kind of resembled a bear maybe, but I don't know. But that one, he did that one. And then we found handprints on the railing. I took pictures of that. And then I went, we left for it to dry and did other things.
Starting point is 02:07:14 I went and got a tattoo and they went back later in the day at night. the footprint that you casted, did you remember any details about it that were the ordinary or was it pretty straightforward? The track had a big, really big toll. You could see the details of the other tolls in it. It was, and it was, I think Jason measured it. What do you say it was 14 inches? So, yeah. And I didn't get to see it after it got paid. up. Were you involved at all with retrieving the track cast and what happened after that? No, no, I went to, I got, I was getting my tattoo done. And they went back to get it. The prince and that one was gone that Chad did. Gotcha. That did the tattoo. Because the other one was farther down. Right. So they didn't, whoever did it, didn't see that one. Exactly. Did your tattoo come out good?
Starting point is 02:08:17 Oh, I love it. It's big foot. It was freeze. No way. Where did you? you get it at? There was a place in town. Awesome. Well, Sherry, thank you. It was. Oh, go ahead. Yep. No, I haven't known nothing. You're good. Thank you so much for Sharon what you experienced up there. Our last interview will be
Starting point is 02:08:39 with Priscilla Rosamond Davidson, who spends a few minutes talking about what she experienced during the events of the 2024 Sasquatch Summerfest. Enjoy. So, Priscilla, were there any other things you were involved with or times you were up in the Oak Hole area during Sasquatch Summerfest, 2004, that things happened?
Starting point is 02:09:10 So we had gone out. We had two vehicles going and they were filled. I think we had all of the searching for Sasquatch crew, myself, my husband, my friend Susie, who was driving the other vehicle. I don't recall who all was there, but I know, I think, were you there? Was this the night when they got almost got lost, right? Yes, yeah. And so Sherry, we were at the end of the road. And the guys and Sherry and Gwen, they got out.
Starting point is 02:09:57 And Sherry had heard something call her name. Agents who are realtores do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps. They can tell you about flood zones, mixed use zones, and decode acronyms like HOA, APR. are MLS. They connect you to lawyers, contractors, even Phil, the Severscope guy. They negotiate, coordinate, advocate for you, close the deal with you, and hand the keys to you. They bring you home. Realtors are members of the National Association of Realtors, right by you.
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Starting point is 02:11:11 Less stress, less time, more results. When you need the right person to cut through the chaos, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. And listeners of this show will get a $75 sponsored job credit to help your job get the premium status it deserves at Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed Sponsored jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heightened taste?
Starting point is 02:11:48 Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. Which was, she was kind of terrified when she got back to the car. I mean, excited, you know. But she's like, it said my name. It said my name. It said, Sherry.
Starting point is 02:12:06 But she was super excited about that. I was like, I know of my name. Absolutely. And then were you involved with a trip that went to an abandoned mine area in the region of Oak Ridge during that time? What was that another? The Bohemia Mines? So we went up to the Bohemia Mines. we wanted to just show them the area and there's a ghost town in there east of Cottage Grove.
Starting point is 02:12:51 But I don't remember anything happening. If there was an experience or something, I wasn't a part of it. I may have been in the car or I don't know, but I don't remember anything. happening at the caves. That's extremely interesting. There was actually, and this is just off to the side, but I had interviewed Gwendolyn Guthrie. I don't know if you remember her. When they were up there, she had a sighting when she was walking out by the son on the road.
Starting point is 02:13:37 Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Cool. So he worked out a cave when that happened. So what there was a there was a deer and then there was a baby deer and They got separated the mama and the baby
Starting point is 02:13:56 So I was you know me and when we're like yelling at Steve to slow down and let the baby get back with his mom, you know And like the pace that he had like he was he's like no that the deer is gonna go it it will find his mom It'll be okay And then it didn't. It just kept traveling down the road, you know? And then so one's like, no, just I'm getting out. I'm getting out. I'm going to help guide the baby back to his mom.
Starting point is 02:14:26 And then so she was outside the vehicle and Steve's like driving really, really slow. And then she's like, I'm so bad at measuring distance. Like 100 yards ahead of us. and she she got totally scared from a a shadow that was very tall like I mean it was dark
Starting point is 02:14:57 and she's seen something move past in front of her and which she returned to the vehicle after that because she had ran into something that was very large on two feet and tall. I mean, she thinks it was probably around eight feet tall.
Starting point is 02:15:22 So I completely slipped my mind. It was gone. That's sometimes, you know, you just need to lead someone a little bit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, right. That was on Sunday? I believe so. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Was it, morning or afternoon. We were a second. Okay. My event was Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Sunday was not a full day from the festival. So it was Sunday night. Okay, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:57 So pretty much at a similar time when you guys were experienced in that, that's when we were having the events happen in O'Call with the, well, there's, let's see, the big thing was, the audio being recorded and I couldn't move out of my chair for five minutes and stuff like that. So yeah, that's another thing, right? Anyways, but oh, and Alicia, just to double check, at that point, during the events of Sasquatch Summerfest in July, did you have any interaction with anything weird that you would want to mention or did all of that happen? after that whole experience.
Starting point is 02:16:50 In terms of the Oak Hole location, I had not been out there yet. But do you mean like other places too? I guess more like you didn't have any like random adventures where you're like, yeah, I went up a poor service road and something weird happened. Anything like that? Out here? Yeah. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 02:17:12 No, I was, I think it. It was after the festival, I was actually trying to get to the backside of Spirit. Was a Spirit Lake that you've mentioned that I told you I wanted to check out? Yeah, that would have been quite a travel for you, but I think that would have been the way. Yeah. So, well, but my navigation claimed almost that there was like a trailhead to a back way to it rather than going down to Waldo Wilderness area. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:17:40 You get to it from Sam, like the backside of it from Sam and Creek Road. And I, it basically brought me to like a cliff face and said that the trailhead was supposed to be there. There was absolutely no trail. So, and I hung out there because I was like, well, I drove all this way. So I might as well just hang out here with my dog and stuff. And it was completely quiet. I mean, I wasn't really trying to stir stuff up. But, I mean, it seems like a great place where there'd be potential activity, but nothing happened there.
Starting point is 02:18:11 but I really want to go to that lake at sunset and see if things happen like the alleged, you know. Spirit Lake, the one where the Sasquash with dreadlocks will chase people out of it. Yeah. And then you say also like the logs will kind of come to the center and do like a little vortex thing. That's the story. Yep, they'll all go to the center and make a vortex every night. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would be awesome to get to see if it's just a legend or not, right? But yeah, but thank you. I can finally close the chapter. I can do the editing on hours and hours of stuff. This will be great. But I appreciate you both coming on and spending some time out of your busy day. just wanted to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of the bigfoot society podcast the encounters we documented in oakridge aren't just stories but their threads in a much bigger tapestry of fear curiosity and awe that surrounds the saskatch mystery in the pacific northwest huge thanks to everyone who trusted me with these incredible firsthand accounts from the roar that stopped them in their tracks to the shadow that tilted its head these moments will stay with me and maybe
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