Bigfoot Society - Trapped on the Porch! | Ohio

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeff, a listener, shares a chilling Bigfoot encounter from Minerva, Ohio, dating back to 1972. Jeff and his friends explore an abandoned house and have a terrifying... experience with a large, hairy creature. Jeff recounts the details vividly, including how their encounter led to disbelief and ridicule in their small town. Additionally, Jeff discusses how the event affected his life and interactions with the wilderness, as well as other strange experiences he has had. Don't miss this fascinating account of a classic Americana Bigfoot encounter.Resouces:Minerva Monster documentary by STM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmnSCGr65PkIf you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:55 All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Jeff today. Jeff is a listener that reached out. to me about an interesting experience that he had. Jeff is a listener that reached out to me about an interesting experience he had quite a few years ago, but it's a privilege to have you on the show, Jeff. How's it going? It's going great. Thank you very much. It's a little cold here in Florida right now. Oh dear, yeah. I guess for future listeners, there's a weird weather pattern going on now where the south of the U.S. has experienced what we up here in
Starting point is 00:02:30 in the Midwest experience quite a bit as well. But, you know, Jeff, I remember you reaching out through email and I'm excited to hear what you experienced, but we are also talking before the show that this is a pretty big deal for you as well, that you're able to finally get this across in a forum in a kind of maybe even therapeutic way. So I appreciate you coming on the show, Jeff. And, you know, let's, I'll have you go ahead and feel free to take us back to however long, however long back we need to go and what we need to know about what happened to you that day. Sure. I grew up in Minerva, Ohio, which is a small town and the eastern part of Ohio. It's about 3,200 people.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And it's sort of famous because of anybody who follows the Bigfoot topic knows it is the Minerva Monster, which was a documentary produced in 2015, I think. My story takes place much before that incident. Mine's in 1972. And Minerva is like one of the small towns where everybody knows everybody. you have your group of friends. I mean, you sleep out during the summer, and sleep out in other people's backyards. You know, it's just a typical Mayberry RFD kind of little town. And we had been talking to some more, there's five of us, a group, the club, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And we had run into some older boys who had told us about an abandoned house, about two miles outside of town, east of Minerva. said there's an old house out there and it was part of a probably an apple orchard at one time and they said it's pretty cool go out like careful because it's kind of dilapidated i mean what it is dilapidated but you can you know so boys being boys i mean go out and smoke cigarettes and think a beer that we stole from our fathers or something like that so we got on our bicycles and we rode out there and they told us where it was there was there was road, there was just an old farmer's cutoff, you know, up into the woods. And these woods are
Starting point is 00:04:57 thick. I mean, these woods are very thick. And there was a mailbox there. No number on or anything. Anyway, so we were right out there, and it was in August. We were on a school break. And it was probably after lunch. I know that. So we read out there. and we leave our bikes by the road because you can do that there. There was going to bother your bike. And we walked into the woods. And it was about 600 yards back. And we kind of, you know, going through the woods like you do.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And we get to this house. And it was in a, not a clearing. There was trees in the yard in there, but it wasn't as dense as the woods. And that was a two-story house. It had no doors, had no windows, were glass in the way. windows. It had a big front porch that had seen its better days. And there was a big hole in the roof. So we look, and oh, by the way, I didn't put this in my letter to you, but on the way to the house, we had picked up a really foul odor, but I figured it was just a skunk. I mean, none of us
Starting point is 00:06:11 had ever heard of Bigfoot or Sasquatch or if we get to the house and we're looking around and we picked up rocks because basically in case there was a skunk right I'm the first one into the house and the other boys are right behind me and sound like they're waiting or the thing and I walked into the house there's a living
Starting point is 00:06:34 room and to the left was a I guess was a bedroom and there's a staircase that went upstairs but you can see the hole so we weren't going to go up there and I walked to the doorway at the back of the living room which led into
Starting point is 00:06:50 a kitchen, an old-time kitchen. I even had a hand pump at the sink. And there was no rest of them in the house. I'm sure they had an out-house out back. So I'm standing there and looking around and everybody's kind of milling around. A couple of the guys walked into the bedroom and whatever. And I look out the back window of the house.
Starting point is 00:07:14 There was no glass or anything. It was over the sink. And I saw, in my mind, I saw this big, hairy thing just go past the window. There was no arms, no legs, no head. It was just hair, you know? And the first thing I thought was a bear. I know we had bears in that area, but they're extremely rare as a kid growing up. Maybe they're more common now.
Starting point is 00:07:44 but then you just didn't see them or hear about them very much, but I just assumed it was a bear. It was a dark chocolate brown color, and I turned around and yell bear and go rip tearing through the living room, out the front door, and jump into the yard. And the other guys are coming after me, and we're off. You know, look at around, like, where's this bear?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Where's this bear? and we're about maybe 30 feet from the house standing out in the front. And I looked over to the front porch. I'm not in the front. A kid named Randy was. So he was a little bit closer to the house than I was. And all of a sudden, this big old hairy head
Starting point is 00:08:37 of what I first thought was a gorilla looks around the corner of the house to my left. And I was like, what the heck? I didn't say heck. What the heck is that? And everybody's like, either yelling or what is that, right? And this thing just looks at us, and it's got a hand on the corner of the house
Starting point is 00:09:06 and a hand on the roof of the porch. And it's all really happening fast. So Randy, out of fear, had a big rock. I mean, about the size of a baseball, only oval. And we're all pretty good at throwing rocks. I mean, that's what you do as a kid in Minerval High. You throw rocks at things, right? So our angle of the rock is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:09:38 But Randy throws his rock and hits this thing right between the eyes. And it let out a screen. And now it's pissed, I think. I'm sure it is. And it goes to step on the front porch. Now, it was stooping to look under the ceiling of the front porch. So it's taller than the front porch. The front porch had to be at least seven feet tall from the floor.
Starting point is 00:10:14 boards to the ceiling and it was the floor the floor was about two feet off the ground so and it was stupid to look underneath the ceiling so you could figure that out I figured between eight and nine feet tall and we turn around to run because he hit this thing and this thing met out of the row and it steps on to the front porch well the front porch was weak and it crashed through the floor and buried itself up to about its neck and so there must have been a root cellar or something underneath that front porch and we're running now i did look back once and you can see this thing trying to get out of the get it's out of the porch.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And it was ripping up wood and yelling and, you know, it was, so at that point, we're all, I mean, we're running scared as dickens. But the wood is so thick. You can't really, running the straight line, dodging trees and
Starting point is 00:11:31 getting slapped in the face with branches and stuff. And we get to our bikes, we grab our bikes, and we are pedaling for our life what we thought was our life. We're just scared. I was, I was, I was, never been so frightened in my life. And I've done some pretty funny things in my life.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And that was the most scared I've ever been. In fact, one of the kids peed himself. And we're just pedaling and pedaling and yelling at each other. What was that? What was that? And we finally get about a mile from there. We're still about a mile out of town. And we kind of stop pedaling.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Because it's obviously not coming after us. And what are we going to do? What are we going to do? Who are we going to tell? You know, we're all yelling at each other, screaming at each other. And we decided to go to ride to the police station to report it, which was a, in hindsight, was a huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But so we ride into town. We go to the police station. And, you know, everybody knows everybody. In fact, the police chief used to babysit me when I was a kid. Okay. And so it's not like these are big town police, you know, station or whatever. I mean, they had two jails. This is really like Mayberry.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And we go running into the police station and one of the officers who will remain name was, you know, we're obviously very excited. We're out of breath, you know, and they nominate me to tell the story. so I explained to him we saw this big monster out by this house and he knew the house so it wasn't that big of a secret
Starting point is 00:13:19 that the house was there and he said at so-and-so's old place and I was like I guess I don't know I'd never heard of it anyways so I tell him the story and he starts laughing and which is nothing response to be expected actually
Starting point is 00:13:36 right so we're all hell yeah, no, this is true, this is true, and he said, you guys saw a bear. And he said, it was just a bear. And we're like, no, it was not a bear. I'm telling
Starting point is 00:13:53 you, it was not a bear. Bears don't have hands, right? And so the police chief heard all this because we're not being quiet about it. And he comes out and he says, and he listens to the story. And he says, it was a bear.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's no such thing as what you're talking about. It was a bear. And so after a while, we just kind of gave up. And he said he was going to call the county or game warden or something like that, county, whatever they are, to report a ban. And I said, well, I remember saying this to him because that's a smart mouth anyway. I said, well, you better tell him to take a big old gun because this thing was eight feet tall.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I said, eight feet tall, I had it on a number. And I said, but it was the least 600 pounds, 500 pounds. And so we just kind of go out. You know, we leave the police station. Well, he called all of our parents and told him that we were trying to file a false report. and some of the kids got in real trouble. I mean, they got really, you know, parents,
Starting point is 00:15:18 there was a different standard of parenting back then, right? And this is like 1972, yeah, 1972. I was 14. And I went home and told my mom about it, and she just laughed. My mother was a hairdresser. And so she was the hairdresser for half the town. So again, we knew everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But some of the kids got really, really in trouble because I've tried to follow a false report. My mother didn't care. And after that, there was a few fistfights during the rest of the summer, believe me. We told a couple, we tried to tell a couple people, and they all made fun of us. And of course, that led to, you know, say that to my face. And that was it. And we talked about it. The five of us talked about it for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:16 But then, let's see, 14, 18, I went to college. In 1980, I went off to university. And I guess in 78, the Minerva Monster incident took place. was involved in Stark County Sheriff for all that stuff. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. But I manage it well. It's a little bill with the big story to tell. I take one's daily Jardians at each day start.
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Starting point is 00:19:05 What was there, a name? Quire? Yeah, we knew them. That very well. Out of their house. And I said, no. And they told me about it because they had gone around town. and I felt a little bit better about it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It was like, huh? Yeah, now I see. And then after I got out of college, I went, I moved out of state. And I was living in Houston, Texas at the time. And I got a call. This is 2014 or 15. I think that's when the whatever monster came out, the documentary. And one of the guys said, do you think this is the same thing?
Starting point is 00:19:44 I said, I have no idea. But I'll tell you this, after that documentary came out, I heard from a lot more people, a lot more people, a number of people that there were more and more people saying, yeah, we did see it, you know, da-da-da-da-da. So apparently, these sightings go a long way back. And, I mean, Minerva was founded in the early mid-1800, like just before the Civil War
Starting point is 00:20:16 and come to find out that there were stories about these tall ape-like creatures were monsters everybody called them monsters back from the early 1800s around there and everybody just used them as
Starting point is 00:20:34 you know scare the crap out of each other out camping and nobody really putting a story into it but I didn't know that I had never heard of before. And so that's my story. Jeff, that is a fascinating account. I mean, it's got that classic Americana stranger things, but this is a thing that you really, really experienced yourself. And just to hear that pretty much the entire town,
Starting point is 00:21:08 people that you're supposed to trust were just making fun of you and laughing at you the whole time. Oh, yeah. It must have been terrible. I can't imagine how that affected, you know, a growing, you know, young teenager, how that affected the rest of your life. You just shut up about it. Yeah, you just, you just, after that summer, he just never talked about it again. Unless it was one of the kids that I was with. And even that, I can't remember, I think it was Roger.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He denied it. He was the one that got really in trouble. He was the one who got home, and his father just beat the crap out of him. for turning in a false report. And he denied it after that. That, you know, it was a bearer or he didn't see it or whatever. And we would just sit there and looked at him like, are you nuts? I mean, you know, we could believe that he would sit there and do that.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But he did. And one of the kids, I went back to Minerva, I don't know, It was probably in early mid-90s for a visit. My mom still lived there at that time. And I went back for a visit and went to one of the local bars and everybody went to. And ran in to three of the guys. They had Steve and Mnirva and we were still friends.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And, you know, I sat down and we were talking about catching up about what's going on in Minerva and who's doing new and all that other stuff. And I said, do you guys remember when we went out to that house and one of the guys got up and left? I mean, I didn't just that I'm not sitting around for this BS. They got up and left. Whoa. And the other two sat there and we talked.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And come to find out, Randy, who had thrown the rock, he came from a good family. I mean, they were one of the upper middle class families in that town. they had their own business and stuff and he became a rigid drunk and committed and I asked the guys and said because of this you think
Starting point is 00:23:21 he said they said we don't know Jeff he said you know when we were in high school together you kind of went off and did your thing and I said yeah and he said
Starting point is 00:23:34 and Randy just that's what he started drinking so maybe so I don't know I tell you this I have not been in a woods since. I went to the Olympic Peninsula in Washington on vacation and took a hike with a group of people. And I was looking. I'm telling, I was, I was like, I looked like a digibate. I was just looking around. I was just getting ready. But I will not go into woods anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I really won't. I mean, you'd have to drive me. There'd have to be a good reason for me to walk in. And I used to do it as a kid all the time. We used to go mushrooming and, you know, explore and make quartz and all that stuff. But I wouldn't do it. No, no, no. So that's how it has affected my life.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm sorry that happened to one of your friends. Yeah. That is just, that is absolutely heartbreaking. I don't know. You never know how being a part of an experience like this is going to affect a person's life. And unfortunately, in this story, this account, it affected the different boys involved in many different ways. I have a few questions for you about what you actually saw that day. And so you saw it peeking out from the corner of the house.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Did you get any feeling for how long the arms were? You said you noticed that it had one hand, one place, and then one hand up on the roof, right? Yeah, you know, like when you, it was standing there. All right. So what happened was it came around. It didn't peak around. It came around. And when it came around and put its right arm up on this, grab the roof.
Starting point is 00:25:41 of the porch okay and then the other hand the left hand came around and grabbed the corner of the building like it was about to bring it to pull itself around does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah yeah okay so I don't know how long the arms were in relationship to its body but they were long well it was so tall I mean you
Starting point is 00:26:08 so yeah they were long I mean, obviously, this is a big thing. This is a big creature. I'm sure. Well, how long would you say the entire, you know, from you seeing it out the window to you guys running off towards the bikes? How long did that whole part take? Probably less than a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Wow. From the time I saw it on the window and yelled bear, after it registered that what I saw was actually going past the window. So a few seconds there, maybe. And I registered my mind that this has got to be a bear because I didn't know what else could be that big until a window. And we ran out.
Starting point is 00:27:01 So that was, what, 10, 20 seconds maybe as most? And then we stood there, looking back at the house and looking at the corners around. Because we weren't sure where it was going to go. I know what's back there, but I didn't know if it was going to come around the house or what's going on, or are we going to have to climb trees or whatever. And the guys are going, what did you see? What did you see?
Starting point is 00:27:25 And that was like it had to be a bear. And then as we turned back the house to look, as we're looking at the house, look and see where this thing was going to come out, then it came around the corner. And do you know, I was, you know, I'll follow your show. And you did a thumbnail, I think, on episode 636. Do you remember that? I am going to actually look real quick. Let me see here.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That was it. Oh, really? Was it really close? That was as close as I've seen on. It wasn't, you could tell, after you thought about it, after I thought about it, I didn't sit there and analyze it at the time. but it was not a gorilla-looking thing. It was more human-looking, but it wasn't human.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Without that thumbnail, if you wanted to look at a human being and say, what would be close to that, it would be an Australian Aboriginal. Okay. Okay. That is buzz. So if you took an Australian Aboriginal and haired it up, so it was long hair, that's what it would look like. 636 is about the best thumbnail I've seen.
Starting point is 00:29:00 That's very interesting. Yeah, no, I'm looking at it right now. That's good to know for sure. The skin was lighter. Skin was lighter. Okay. Was it a certain color, the skin that you remember? It wasn't black.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It wasn't, it was a dark brown. I mean, it was like, I wouldn't, I couldn't tell whether it was, I don't know, it was dark brown. It was, you know, almost, you know, Indians sometimes, people from India have a dark brown skin. Sure. It was like, yeah. But very, very wrinkled, very craggy, very weathered. Do you remember looking at the, the size, of the head
Starting point is 00:29:49 from what you saw that day? Do you remember if it was close to any any like common household objects or It wasn't as 636 is it I mean that's exactly what it looked like other than the color
Starting point is 00:30:15 the fur was long it was dense you can see it thined out in its chest but you couldn't see the chest. I mean, it was just like a very hairy chest, but it was not as thick as like on the arms or the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It was definitely male. That's that I can die. So, I don't know. The palms of the hands, I didn't see the feet, actually, because when it stepped up, it just went right in. I mean, I didn't even get a step, two steps in, and it was fell through the floor.
Starting point is 00:31:01 But the palms my hands were lighter, and they weren't covered, of course. Teeth, yeah, it sure it's teeth. The teeth were yellow. Do you remember the shape of any teeth at all? Okay, no fangs. Yeah, no fangs. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a gorilla, I'm telling you. I've seen gorillas.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And it wasn't like that. there were human teeth. It was more of a human. But it definitely screams. Didn't do that howling screams. Everybody, you know, the Ohio owl or whatever they call that thing, that noise, that recording.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I didn't hear that. But it was bad. That was, there was no interpretation of how angry this thing was. When Brandy hit this thing right in the head, it looked stunned. I mean, I don't think it really, hurt it, but
Starting point is 00:32:01 it wasn't expecting that. He let that rock rip and I thought, you dumbass, you're going to get us killed. Right. So, I really did. I did.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I remember thinking, you know, what the hell did you just do? You know? Oh, let's piss off the big old eight foot tall monster. So, anyway. Was it bleating? at all when it was hit in the face?
Starting point is 00:32:31 No. Okay. No. No, but it did get hit by a rock. You know? So, I don't know. I've never seen one since. I've never had anything like that happen.
Starting point is 00:32:47 You know, but anyway. What are maybe some details that really stick out to you that, you know, so if you have, like a question inside, like, maybe there was a chance that we were prank that day by the older boys that told us about that, were there are details that were, like, so vivid that, like, there's no chance this was faked? Yeah, size. Yeah. Just the sheer size.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Okay. I mean, there's nobody that lived in the NERB that was that big, even on the basketball team. And this thing was just the sheer size of it eliminates any possibility that this could have been a human pranking us. And I'll tell you this, if that would have been a human and Randy had hit that with a rock and it'd knock him cold.
Starting point is 00:33:44 This is a big, I mean, this wasn't a huge rock, but it was a good-sized rock. And so it would have knocked him cold. That would have hurt somebody. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. But I manage it well.
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Starting point is 00:36:35 And I've had friends for 40 years that I've never talked about. I never told us. Absolutely. Because, I mean, this goes back, like, it's about 52 years, 53 years, right? Yeah, I'm 67. Yeah. Well, I will be 67 on Saturday. But, yeah, I was 14, what, 53 years?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Something like that? Yeah. And I used to, like I said, I used to love to go exploring and stuff. And I've got to believe, I think there are different subspecies of Bigfoot across the nation. I think they're tribal. I think they have culture. You go, you read about instances out west. about how they interact with people out west versus how aggressive they can be. And the Eastern part of the country or other parts of the country. And people are like, well, I don't understand your experience. You know, I didn't have an... I think they're subspecies. And I think they're tribes.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And I think they have a culture. And I think it depends on what you run into. You know, I've got a big proponent of some of these. other cryptids, you know, but I see where there is a, what is it called, Afropythipithecus that they say has been gone extinct 60,000 years ago. Sure, right. But I think there's an evolutionary path for these creatures. A scientific, you know, that I do.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I just think that when they finally do get the opportunity to whatever, study one or get one or when somebody really puts together, the money and the effort to find something, to find this. I think they're going to find that they're extremely, probably more closely related to us than a chimpanzee, which has like 96% of our DNA. I think they're going to find this to be somewhere in between there. And I think it does have a culture.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And that's just based on me listening to gather people. That's not in my experience. That's just me kind of following along with this. So, I don't know. We'll say. Someone's going to find it. I agree. I think it, I would say hopefully it's coming sooner than later, but there's definitely an intelligence that is shown from, you know, people that I talk to.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I've talked to, you know, a lot of people over the years. But now, I want to ask you, from what you were able to see that day, especially from your memories of what you, you saw in in the face of it would you would you categorize it more as something that was human like or more ape like or something completely different it was let me put this let me put it this way when i was a kid i had it so we didn't have any weapons with us on this particular bicycle trip but i hunted as a kid and i i I would not have shot it. Let me put it that way.
Starting point is 00:40:07 It would have felt like shooting a human, an ugly one, a hairy one, but it would have felt like shooting a human. So to answer your question, I would say human, I wouldn't have a fur. And that's what kind of, for years, that's what kind of just, until you see it,
Starting point is 00:40:32 you can't get, you really can't explain it. But it looked more human, I guess. But it didn't. It looked like a big, furry human is what it looked like. I guess, yeah, it looks sense. You saw it move in different ways. And there are really weird ways that you saw,
Starting point is 00:40:55 like you saw it rush past a window, move around a house, and then kind of fall down into the wood of a porch or be stuck there. Was there anything weird about that you noticed about the way it was moving at any time? No. I mean, a move past that back window. It wasn't rushing.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It wasn't running or anything like that. It was just like walking past it. It must have nowhere there. Like I said, we smelled something going into the woods. So afterwards, when we all got together and talked about it, we think it was observing us. I think it saw us come into the winter or at some point
Starting point is 00:41:41 picked us up you know that we're there we weren't trying to be quiet so you know your kids right you pick up a limb and you start whacking things and you get through the brush and the ferns and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:41:55 and so I think it was probably saw us when we could smell something and I remember saying what is that And the only thing I could relate it to was a skunk. But it didn't, you know, again, when you think back on it, it didn't really smell all that much like a skug, scug.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It's maybe a dead skug. It smelled like, have you ever hunted? Have you ever smelled something dead? Oh, yeah, like a skunk? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah. It was a sickening, but it wasn't real strong.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It wasn't like, oh, turn around, go back. It wasn't real strong, but we could smell it. And that's why we pick up the rocks. Like I said, when we got to the front end of the yard, it was kind of a rocky yard and there were some apple trees around there. And we picked up the rocks. And I think I picked it up first and said, one of the guys said, what are you picking up the rock for?
Starting point is 00:42:59 I said, well, there's a skunk in that house. You know, you throw the rock because it'll chase it. you don't. Right. Right. So that's why we picked up the rocks is because we thought there was a scuncle the area. This, this area that you're in, how close was it to a body of water? There was a golf course within a mile. They had water features. Okay. And then there was a, there's creeks, you know, creaks all over that place. So there might have been a creaking nearby, but we didn't cross one going in. But
Starting point is 00:43:41 again, you know, there could have been I don't know. I could tell you this. That woods, even though that place has been sold for a very long time and there are lots of
Starting point is 00:43:56 farming going on, the woods there are very dense and where they do have tops of trees. They're close together, I could probably walk miles and trees if I tried to, if I, I might have to cross a different road or two,
Starting point is 00:44:19 but I could probably walk from miles and trees and not enter into a field if I knew where I was going. And people don't think Ohio is like that because, you know, they think it's just fun landing stuff. In eastern Ohio, you know, it is very dense, the woods.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And there's a lot of deer. There's a lot of deer out there, and there are squirrels and rabbits. And, you know, so there's plenty of food. So, I don't know. This is in Carroll County. Okay, gotcha. Minerva is a weird little town.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Minerva sits on the intersection of three counties, literally. Stark County, which is where the Minerva monster took place. Then there's Carroll County, and then there's Columbia County. And this is Carroll County, which is in the southeastern quadrant. And that's a very rural county. It's very small. Carrollton is the capital, the county seat.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You know, it's very small. So. It's good to know that, it's good to know that information about that location. as well. Thinking back to, you know, what you heard over the years when growing up,
Starting point is 00:45:46 going to school there, that area where the house was, were there stories that were told about that area? Any like town legends or like, you know, don't go out to this area
Starting point is 00:45:55 because this kind of thing happens. That was opposite. It was like, this is a cool place to go to. That was very popular. You know, it was before the age of tagging. So there was nobody was tagging
Starting point is 00:46:08 or anything. but it was just a run down old house and the kids would go out to explore you know people we you know ghost stories and stuff but nobody believed that although i've had my experiences on those too so having connections to that town and we kind of alluded to this a little bit but do you remember any other people telling stories about their encounters with bigfoot or whatever it is you saw that day as you, you know, got older through that town? Not really. I mean, one of the things I forgot about that I've now remembered since I put the story down is there was a couple times, like I said, we would sleep out, right? I don't know if you grew up in a small town, but what you did, you know, you get with your friends, you go to their house, you sleep out in the backyard or with a,
Starting point is 00:47:09 a sleeping blanket and some snacks you want them to bring out to you and stuff. And I can't have been to bed and run around town, past curfew. But anyways, there were a couple times that I remember that Ohio yell. But we always just put it up to coyotes or dogs or whatever. But after this, after I heard the recording of the Ohio yell, I thought that had to begin. And it was only a couple times. It wasn't like how often or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But there was only a couple times. Then there was another time when I was in high school. That was probably junior or senior or senior at this point. That there was a group of girls. They lived out in the country in a trailer with their family. And they said that something was looking in their window. and, you know, scared the crap out of them,
Starting point is 00:48:15 called the police or called the sheriff, whatever. And, you know, people went out and hunting for them, but they never said it was a big foot. They just said, guy, somebody was looking in their window. Well, again, I didn't put two and two together here because I should have made me. But do you know mobile homes?
Starting point is 00:48:35 You can't just go up to a window in a mobile home and look in. They're tall. they're not like a regular house and so maybe so but that's the only thing I've ever heard that that's interesting and a good call out about the height of windows on mobile homes for sure
Starting point is 00:48:57 one last question that I want to ask you sometimes when a person has had an interaction or encounter like this they will have other things happen in their lives just maybe weird things stuff that might be in considered paranormal. Did you have to deal with other things that potentially could have been related to what happened to you as a teen?
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yes. But you're going to think I'm nuts, but I'm not nuts. You're not nuts. I can tell you three things that actually I would put my hand on a Bible test too. Okay. During one of my marriages, there have been a few. one came with a stepdaughter. I had bought a 1902
Starting point is 00:49:49 bungalow in Houston, Texas that I was redoing. And it was a two-bedroom and one back. So my wife and my stepdaughter moved in, and we're laying in bed one night. And my stepdaughter at that time was about seven. And she loved
Starting point is 00:50:14 playing in the bath home. and I have one of those old cloths I mean it was like I like right and so we're laying there trying to fall asleep and we hear the shower go on and my wife
Starting point is 00:50:32 rolled over and looked at me and said you go do it you know go tell Madison to go back to bed Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages but I manage it well it's a little bill with the big story to tell
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Starting point is 00:53:09 I get out of bed and I go into this little hallway where the bathrooms and the bedrooms all emptied on to. And the door to the bathroom was open and there was no lighter. And as soon as I got out of bed, the shower stopped. And I went in there and that shower, there was nothing there. I mean, there was no water, no nothing. and I looked at Madison's room and she was asleep and I got back into bed and my wife said what was that and I said we'll talk about it in the morning
Starting point is 00:53:54 but I was creeped out right and I told her in the morning and she said well let's not mention this and we're sitting there having breakfast as my daughter's getting ready to go to school and she said to us why were you guys taking a shower so late? So she heard it, right? And the wife and I just look at each other and said, I don't remember what we exactly said.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So that's one. All right. The second one I will test to in late at my hand on the Bible is we had some friends and we went out to the house and lived down the country. And this guy had prosthetic legs. And so we're out in the backyard
Starting point is 00:54:47 that were on a big fire pit and they behind their garage, they had a dog run. And they had a black lab and the dog run. The dog run was maybe 20 yards from us. So it's time to go home. We weren't doing anything else.
Starting point is 00:55:06 But we were just having BS and having fun. And I stand up and my wife stands up next to me to leave. And they stand up. they're across from us on a fire pit. And I looked down to the right, and there's a golden retriever. And I said, this guy's name, I said, I didn't see the golden retriever and the dog rat,
Starting point is 00:55:32 and he goes, we're going to the golden retriever. And I said, you have one sitting right behind you. And my wife said, I saw it. And I said, we had a golden retriever. It ran away. We just assumed to die. swear to God, man. There was a gold retrievers standing behind it.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And this guy's got so angry with me. They never talked to us again. Because I insisted that there was a gold retriever sitting behind these people. Sweary God. So the 1902 house. So this is an area called the Heights of Houston, which was the original suburbs of the Heights.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So it's maybe a mile or two from downtown. at that time. And this house, a particular house that I had, was the original model home for a guy that developed
Starting point is 00:56:36 about two or three blocks of that area. And all the houses were bungalows, you know, small homes. And I walked out of my kitchen into the living room. or the dining room, I turned it into a TV room and looked to my right and there was this guy
Starting point is 00:57:01 sitting in one of my chairs and he had a wife Peter T-shirt on bald head slumped into the chair looking down at the floor. I saw that. I mean, I was dead sober. And my wife is open and I said, you're not going to believe what I just saw. And I went across the street the next day to ask a neighbor who had lived in that place, in that house, in that neighborhood, her entire life. And I asked her, I said, have you ever heard that my house is haunted?
Starting point is 00:57:47 And she kind of looked at me and she said, why? What did you see? And I said, I explained to her. And she said, well, that sounds like Mr. Scarfano or whatever he was. that built the house. And I said, really? And she was like, yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I'm just saying. The interesting thing about those stories is in that two of them, you had another person by yourself that experienced the strange event, which is very interesting. Yeah. well my ex definitely on two of them and then she didn't see the apparition in the living room
Starting point is 00:58:34 we would be sitting there watching television all of us on a sofa and she would say do you smell that and I'm like what because she goes he smells like stinky socks in cigars and I'm like what
Starting point is 00:58:53 And, you know, you think about it, yeah, sure did. It sure did. And it just, which I guess you guys smoked scars. I don't know. Could have been. I don't know. I'm just glad I said. That's something you know, until you see it.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I was very skeptical about all that. But then after that. I'm, if personally, I've been working over a theory for, a year or so now where I think that if you come into contact with one of a big foot or you're in the same area it kind of opens you up to other stuff and I think that you know it sounds it sounds kind of crazy saying it but I think that there's something there and we just don't understand how it works science-wise well I've had two two times of my life where I've heard somebody call my name
Starting point is 00:59:55 and when I so the first time happened when I was in my early 20s my first wife I was at home and I heard somebody saying Jeff I ignored it
Starting point is 01:00:14 Jeff I ignored it and finally I thought who does that sound like and I said it sounds like my wife so I called her at work It was pouring down rain. And there was brain coming in the back of her building, her office.
Starting point is 01:00:32 And she was there by herself. She was the secretary. She's an agent there. And she said, come right away. I need your help on the phone. So I went. The next time that happened was 30 years later. And I was in years later.
Starting point is 01:00:55 was in Houston and I heard Jeff Nothing Jeff Nothing and I thought who does that sound like and it sounds like my mother but she lived in Florida
Starting point is 01:01:11 so I called her I said Are you okay and she said the eminence is on the way I think I'm having a heart attack and I said well don't be on the phone
Starting point is 01:01:28 get off the phone and just lay down and wait for them. I can hear the ambulance coming. And I said, I'll call one of the neighbors later and find out how you are. And so that was the second time. But those two things have happened to me. That's the only things that psychic things type things,
Starting point is 01:01:50 you know, I guess you'd call them. But those two are true. Absolutely true. That's some fascinating things. I think we definitely need to be aware. if people were more aware of what's going on around them through their senses, they would probably be surprised of what might be happening. But Jeff is been just an extremely interesting conversation. Thank you for sharing what you went through more than 50 years ago. And I'm glad you were able to get your account out there finally to, you know, to get that off your chest, as people like to say. But if anything else, you know, does happen down the road. You know, always feel free to reach out.
Starting point is 01:02:35 But thank you so much for coming on the show today. All right, Jamie. You're welcome. Thank you. Yes, sir. All right. Bye-bye. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you,
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