Bigfoot Society - Uncovering Bigfoot Reports and High Strangeness: Exploring Eastern Nebraska with Steve Berg

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Are you a fan of all things mysterious and strange? Then tune in to this week’s episode of Bigfoot Society where I interview Steve Berg, high strangeness researcher, actor and comedian. Steve is on a mission to uncover Bigfoot reports in the eastern part of Nebraska, along with exploring many other aspects of high strangeness.In this episode, Steve shares his journey into high strangeness, starting with his love for UFOs in the 1980s and the important figures he met along the way. Then, get ready for an intense discussion about the history of Bigfoot in Eastern Nebraska, specifically Otoe County, and the Macy, Nebraska sightings that have fascinated researchers for years.But Steve doesn't just talk the talk - he walks the walk. He shares his boots on the ground research into Bigfoot sighting areas and offers some of the best research advice out there. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from a seasoned researcher and hear some fascinating stories along the way.Resources:Operation Trojan Horse - John Keelhttps://amzn.to/3Lvb6LJ (Amazon Affiliate) Journal of the Fortean Research Center - Ray Boeche https://amzn.to/3TplPJy (Amazon Affiliate)Ci’Tonga: Bigfoot, Spirits and Faith - Outkast Paranormal https://amzn.to/3FwP9rO (Amazon affiliate)Listen to Episode 150 of Bigfoot Society to hear my lecture about the Iowa Bigfoot Information Center that Steve talks about in the episode.Contact Steve with your Nebraska high strangeness stories by reaching him at:https://twitter.com/bergmaster5000To see Steve talk about High Strangeness in Nebraska make sure not to miss his lecture at the 2023 Van Meter Visitor Festival in Van Meter, Iowa on 9/30/23.If you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/posts/after-show-more-80185862Hear 30 more minutes with Steve in the Patreon where we discuss humanoids from Nebraska, Dogman, Skinwalker Ranch, portals of Otoe County and so much more!!Do you have a Bigfoot encounter that you've been dying to share? Look no further than Bigfoot Society! Simply email us at [e-mail] to learn more.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!

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And what exactly is going on in Odo County, Nebraska? Find out this and more in this week's episode of Bigfoot Society. All right, Bigfoot Society. We have the privilege of talking to Mr. Steve Berg tonight. How's it going, Steve? Fantastic, my friend. How are you doing? I'm doing great.

I'm excited to talk to you again. I want to talk for a few minutes about how I met you, Steve. And this was last year at the Van Meter Visitor Festival, and I was at my booth. Just talking to random people about Bigfoot and stuff, which is going. great. And you swept out of nowhere with like the energy of like macho man, Randy Savage with like the elbow coming down. I was like, oh my goodness. This guy's amazing. I love him. It's so, it's so much fun. And then I was like, man, it's something like familiar about this guy. And then I found out later like all this stuff because you are comedian and actor too. In addition to being all about

the high strangeness weird stuff, which is a really cool combination. But I was like, I've seen this guy somewhere before. And like you've been in stuff like. like gentlemen Broncos, the Good Place, Hobbs Burgers, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. What else?

You've been in a lot of different stuff. Yeah, like a lot of, you know, comedy, tell a bit drunk, drunk history is something that's right. A lot. I did, yeah, we're done that quite a bit. And, yeah, just kind of like a lot of different comedy central shows and mostly comedy-based things, a couple of dramatic pieces. But, yeah, mostly comedic acting is my, my.

my specialty. I don't know if I would call it specialty or whatever. It's what I do. It's what I get paid for. Awesome. Hey, that's great. That's great. It pays the bill so you can go out and look for weird stuff.

That is true, man. It's all about, you know, just financing my weird, my weird addiction to looking for strangeness. I hear that. I hear that. And now you are in eastern Nebraska area. Yes, sir. Looking for high strangers, correct?

Right, right. Yep. I moved back to the Omaha area, you know, about about two years ago. I lived in LA for 21 years. And then, you know, my folks are getting a little bit older. So I wanted to be close to them. And, you know, with technology, luckily I can just audition for my basement, fly out there or wherever when I need to work. So it's, yeah, I'm an Omaha based now, which is great.

It feels great to be back here. Thinking back of all the times you've been involved with films and movies, did any of did they connect to hate high strangeness events at all or did like someone say something you're like oh that reminds me of it or like anything weird like that ever happened during i mean well yes so much what for first off like usually you know there's a lot of downtime when you're on set and i'm always i mean all i've ever read my whole life is like this kind of stuff you know most a lot of UFO stuff, not just like big foot stuff, obviously, UFOs, high strangeness, stuff about Arabian mystics from 2000 years ago, Celtic Fairy Faith books. I mean, like, I'm deep into it, but in from coming from a lot of different angles. So yeah, people were like, what are you reading about? I'm like, no, I'm reading about the Celtic Fairy Faith in the 16th century. They're like, okay, anyway, you know. But then also in 2010, I straight up made a kind of found footage film with my co-director, Devin McGinn about Skinwalker Ranch. So that was my foray into just like directly dealing with eye strangers.

And, you know, it was some people like it. Some people don't. It was a, you know, honest attempt at a very difficult subject to tackle, you know. But it was super fun because I spent like a long time researching it. And then, yeah, we wrote the script and got it financed. And then at the two weeks before we started shooting it, the financeer was like, you need to make it a found footage movie. And I was like, oh, I don't want to do that though. you know, but I'd already cashed the checks, so it was too late.

But it was fun. It's really hard to do high stranger as well, I think. Like, I feel like a show like Twin Peaks probably handled it better than anything. You know? Right. When people ask me, like, what should I watch to learn about like weird stuff ago? Or like, people are like, oh, is there a book or a documentary about UFOs or Bigfoot that you could point me to?

I go, just watch Twin Peaks season three. That is the best documentary about UFOs you'll ever watch. You know, like it just captures the absurdity so well, I think. I always like to ask, guess, what was it that sent, that set you down the road to the high strangeness, to weirdness, to the big foot? Like, what was it that just set it off in your mind, do you think? It's a great question. And it's actually something like, you know, now I think about because it's odd. My mom likes to remind me of a story, which she took me to get my first library card.

I think I was four or five, fairly young. She was a schoolteacher, so she was all about reading. And she took me, and I came back with a Billy Meyer. And I love that, you know, Billy Meyer is this famous UFO hoaxer from Switzerland who took these beautiful hoaxed UFO photos. But I came back with a picture book of a Billy Meyer thing. And it was about UFOs and a book about magic. And so I, like, really, then I remember, like, getting the time life books about, like, ghosts, UFOs. you know, cryptids, you know, like had every subject, spontaneous human combustion.

It just all the kind of 40 in topics that we know and love. And really, I never stopped since then. It's been a driver. I started going to like UFO conferences. My first one was in fifth grade. My mom dropped me off like Lincoln, Nebraska. Back in the day where you just drop a kid off. And I like wouldn't meet the luminaries of the UFO world, you know, in the 80s.

And so it's like I've just been into this stuff pretty intensely. And, like, you would think I'd grow out of it, but it really only gets more intense for me. Who were you rubbing shoulders with in the 80s at a UFO conference when you were in fifth grade? I got. Oh, my God, yes, totally. I remember waiting in line for like an hour to meet Stanton Freeman. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, one of the OGs of like the extraterrestrial hypothesis, you know, like the nuts and bolts guy, you know, nuclear physicists from Stanford.

He at that time was probably the most. he I mean he was like the Elvis of UFOs back in the days because he was the one who would be on like Larry King he kind of was the media representation of UFOs in the mainstream and so meeting him was a huge deal I remember waiting in line and I didn't buy a book and he goes what no book and I was like oh god no but he shook my hand he was really nice but I met him Richard Boylan who is another kind of a UFO grifter from the 80s and Linna Moulton Howe was there Oh, yeah. John Keel was at there, but at the time, I did not like, no, I don't remember him being there, which is upsetting to me because he's probably like my, you know, him or valet and my favorite probably writers of this stuff, you know. You just, sometimes you just don't know.

I know. That's how life is. Yeah. And honestly, like, Keel was a little bit too weird. I tried to be a Keel book when I was probably like, I think an early, you know, freshman in high school. And I'm like, this too weird. I wanted to be aliens from another place.

planet, no way. You know, like, so I remember reading it and like not getting very far through Operation Charge of course or whatever it was. But now it's like, you know, I've read it three times. So, yeah, I don't, it's hard to pinpoint it. I didn't, I'm not like an experiencer, but it was just something. I think, I mean, not to get like, you know, talk about taboo topics, but I didn't grow up with any religion.

Like, I was not raised with religion at all. So sometimes I think I was just a young kid looking through something else. And, you know, I turned to the paranormal. That would be my best guess. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there you go. Yeah.

That's a really cool story, though, with the whole 80s UFO conference. I love that. Yeah. God. Just a kid, yeah. That's wild. We were talking before we started recording. And, of course, most people, you know, you're listening to the podcast and you're like, I'm here for the Bigfoot.

Yeah. And they're listening and they're like, why is this guy on? Yeah. What does he got to know about this? So tell me, do you know anything about Bigfoot in Nebraska? What do we have going on? Well, I am glad you asked. Literally today, I think I messaged you back.

I'm not sure if you saw it. You might have been working or something. But this morning when you said like, hey, you know, we're all good for the time. I messaged you that I'm going out to some wildlife management areas in Nebraska. So I have a research partner named John. John Kay, I don't know if he wants his name put out there just in case. Great guy, really great guy, super smart, very deeply committed to, you know, investigating this stuff in Nebraska with me.

But we went out today to look at some wildlife management areas in a place called Odo County, Nebraska, which I guess the biggest city would be Nebraska City, but it's kind of a real, really rural area that butts up against Missouri River. And it just so happens that this county, Odo County, in terms of like, Bigfoot, it's really a lot of sightings going back to the late 1800s. And, you know, they didn't have the words for it, but they called it the wild man. Seven foot tall wild man, covered in fur, grabbing chickens from Miami. Like, you can go back into these old, these county newspapers, type in Wildman under the

keyword search. And I really think all people should do this in the area they live. You'll be shocked at what you find. Like, it's amazing. I didn't not know a lot of this stuff existed or that there was a Bigfoot history in eastern Nebraska. I knew there had been sightings because there's some BFRO sightings. Great. And those are fine.

But like all the way up from the tippy top of Nebraska going all the way down that runs along the Missouri River in eastern Nebraska, there is ongoing stuff. And it's been, there's documentation of it going back over 100 years. And it's funny because everyone's like, well, how did a, you know, Bigfoot be in Nebraska? And, you know, it's not like a forested state. And Eastern Nebraska does have like some pretty dense-ish tree-line-covered repairing forest. But that also, I think, leads to the question is, well, is, you know, Bigfoot necessarily a flesh and blood animal? You know, so, I mean, like, you know, I don't know. You know, obviously, I don't know anything.

You know, you just have these thought experiments about it. But, yes, Nebraska does have a history. of Bigfoot, I think it has like 15 confirmed, you know, investigative cases from the BFRO website. But a lot of them right now currently are taking place around Macy, Nebraska, which is the Omaha Indian tribe has a large swath of reservation land right next to the Winnebago tribe. And there's two brothers named Barry and Derek Webster.

The Satanga guys. Yes, exactly. The Red Squatching dudes. Yes. And they, I mean, I have not been out with them. I'm going out with them the spring for an overnight. Oh, my dude, if you ever want to come, you're probably not that far away. You know, I mean, you know, consider it.

I'll hook you up. We'll talk off there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am going to go out with them and they like, I mean, look, a lot of people have gone out with them and had real action. Like really intense encounters with what we would call Bigfoot. and I think for a long time they were just experiencing Bigfoot, but now it's turned into, there's a really good researcher in Nebraska named Richard Sol.

And he is kind of like the Bigfoot guy in Nebraska. And I actually talked to him about two weeks ago for about two hours. And he was telling me some wild stuff that's been happening currently. And it's not just, yeah, it's not just Bigfoot. It is little stick figure entities, balls of love. Balls of light have been happening, you know, shocker, you know, often associated with Bigfoot encounters. Totally, yeah. And they have that.

I mean, that is like, in fact, there was, I spoke with two people who went on expeditions with Barry. And I was like, well, how was it? How was the experience? You know, I'm just because I'm just curious. And they're like, you know, it was really cool. Everyone was really nice. We didn't experience any, you know, we saw these orbs of light flying around the forest, but we didn't see any bigfoot.

And they were disappointed. I was like, wait, what? You saw an orbs of light and you're disappointed, you know? Like, of course, I loved. see a big book too, but, uh, I know. So right now currently, I mean, uh, you know, according to them, you know, and what they're reporting, they're having encounters like weekly, you know, with the C Tonga. And the C Tonga is what they call their version of the Bigfoot. Exactly. So, yeah, there's a lot of action happening right there currently. And then in eastern

Nebraska, I've been going out, kind of investigating a case that takes place around Douglas, Nebraska. It's a small, tiny village. And this bow hunter had a really dramatic encounter that he was on Sasquatch Chronicles talking about it and some other shows. But it was a really, really dramatic counter that messed him up. Like it made him stop hunting for four years. It was really intense for him and not a positive experience. He was, you know, like I saw something that should not be there. And, you know, he was a bow hunter.

And then he took me out to see some structures. And it was the first time in my life. Because honestly, I'll be honest, like kind of this boots on the ground approach that I've been luckily enough to be able to do the last couple of years is new. I've always been kind of like the just academic or, you know, nerdy dude just devouring books or documentary. Right. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

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He has seen a, like, eight foot tall Bigfoot that was like really dark fur. Conical head, really dark fur. He was like black fur. And he said he saw it like in the evening and the eyes were red, but he was just like the feeling of horror and dread. Not only affected him then, you know, like yesterday he just started crying. This is like a pretty tough dude because I've gone out with them. And when I went out with him, he had two guns up, which I'm not like a gun guy. I'm not a gun guy at all.

I'm a real pussycat. So look, when I went out there, the first thing he says, I have a bad shoulder. Can you help me put on my shoulder heart? So I was like, oh, my God. And he was strapped up. He took me out there, showed me what he wanted to show me. He's like, I'm leaving now. You can stay if you want, but text me me to get home in case anything happens.

Oh, wow. Wow. Like he's like, I'm not staying around here. And he's like, I won't go in the morning. I hope he made me, he's like, let's go midday because they won't be, you know, I don't think it'll be out. He's like, I tend to have action. And the thing is he's spoken with other deer hunters in the area because they're like a little community. They hunt in this private property farm for, or farm.

I mean, it's so rural. It's thousands of acres, thousands of acres. My cell phone doesn't work out there. It's very like uncomfortable out there. Very scary. And he, you know, have spoken with other hunters who have seen this thing and they're all like really scared about it you know like it's none of them were like man it's really cool i saw a big one yeah high fives

no exactly right like i think maybe you and i might be like that or at least we think we'd be like that we would be like that i think so bro i think so man we'd be cool um but all of these guys he says it's like ruin it's it's not a positive thing and he you know you can probably find him interview and I highly recommend listening to his account because it is definitely terrifying. And what I will say is when he took me to this area, showed me these structures, I'm not really sure how they were made. There were some giant logs and trees, X's out there. He should be orbs, he should be orbs of light on his trail cam.

And I was like, did he just do this for me? Did he get some like buddies together with like polies and stuff and pull giant logs? I'm like, I kind of doubt it because he's not trying to profit. I don't think he goes to the trouble to fool one person. Because I'm the only person he's ever shown this stuff to. And so it's not like, so, yeah. Like you're an investigator. Yeah.

You know, it's not like you're a guy from the news or like you're a famous author. Yes. Like this guy has nothing to prove by lying to you. Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't make sense. You're right. And I too beg him because the first thing he did, we talked and he's like, I'm not, he's like,

I can, I'll tell you like where it is, the general area. It's very hard to find. I'm like, okay. And he did kind of tell me the general, when I went back to my, like, man, I didn't know what I was like, everything looks the same. It was really, you know.

And so finally I kind of wore him down, but like he did look me up because, you know, you look people up to make sure they're not, whatever, criminal or whatever. And he's like, oh, you're a comedy guy. You're going to like,

you're trying to like sandbag me, like, you know, like doing a guy. And I was like, man, no. So then that threw me three months behind. But eventually I broke him down. I was like, man, I swear to God, I'm sincere. I will not bring a camera or like I'm not trying to, you know, make you look like a fool.

And he took me out there, but for a very short time. And I was very startled by the pictures. I'll send you some later. I'll get him off a hard drive. But like it's awesome. It really was like, it was troubling because when he left me out there, he's like, you can stay here as long as you want. I told the farmer that you'll be on here. And then just when you get home, text me. It's like, okay, yeah, that's fair, man. And he left and I started walking for about one minute. And I was like, maybe not. my card took off I was a result oh yeah

you freaked out I freaked out dude I'll be honest and like I'm not like I go looking for this stuff you know what I mean like with all this high strange

stuff since I was a child like I was the guy getting my friends together in high school let's drive out to the cemetery blah blah you know like I've been like

you know actively like trying to have an encounter with anything weird but given the real opportunity where after hearing his story I was like not a chance

I'm going to be here by myself. Wow. Yeah, yeah, man. I love to show you sometimes. If you ever, you know, want to take a little Eastern Nebraska high strangers, I would give you a fun tour guide day. That'd be wild. That would be wild, man.

How did you get, how did you get introduced to this dude to Sean? Well, I mean, you, you know, I'm probably, you know, I'm prone to high strangers rabbit holes. And, you know, I've been looking very deeply at the history of Nebraska. And somewhere along the line, I think it was maybe, oh, gosh, it might have been the Sasquatch Chronicles forum. I saw this guy and he was talking about Nebraska. I put him like keyword Nebraska. He came up, listened to the episode, and immediately I got in contact with him.

I like, you know, found him. It was maybe on Facebook, messaged him. And then it was kind of off to the races. But yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, every other day I'm like Googling Nebraska Bigfoot, see if anything new comes up. And, you know. Wow. Have you been to the Nebraska Bigfoot Museum yet? Oh, yeah.

It's great, man. Yeah. It's awesome. It's really fun. You know, and they have a, actually next month is the Nebraska Bigfoot convention, which is very fun.

Jeremiah, you've got to come sometime. I know, but it's like West, it's Western Nebraska, right? No, it looks like,

you know, so it's, it's, it's in Hastings, which is about 70 miles from Omaha. Okay. I mean, it's,

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know where you are, where you're like central Iowa or something like that. I'm like just west of Westmore. Well, I'm just west of Ameter. That'll tell you. Yeah. So yeah, you're probably two and two-ish hours away for me.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it would be probably a four-hour drive, you know, but well worth it. You get yourself a night at the hotel, you know, get yourself a steak and then, you know, whatever. And you enjoy. Although last year I was there and there was a lot of Nephilim talk. I was like, okay. You know, like, I'm like, all right, I respect it. That's cool.

Six-figure high five. There was a lot. I like people come in and say, you know what's the Nephlin. Right? I'm like, I don't. Just coming up to you out of nowhere. There's like, yes. Just like not high, not high, but hey, definitely.

Like that's wild, man. Yeah. But I, you know, I'll listen to everybody. I'm not there to debate. I'm there to absorb as much information and just the vibe of the whole situation. I love like small town festivals, conferences. That's kind of what I love for. I've been to a lot of like big ones in Vegas.

and L.A., and honestly, they're so impersonal. There's no vibe, you know? Those big convention centers just have no... I mean, they're fun. It's a different experience, but, like, that's why I love Van Meter. It's just... That is, like, a perfect conference.

That's great. And they run it really well. It's beautiful. Yeah, I am privileged to be part of the crew now. Yeah. To be part of the committee. It's such a cool experience. And so I'm a fan of being on that.

Well, let me, if you don't mind me giving you a nice little delicious compliment, I was unable to hear your full lecture. But I heard it. I guess they taped some of them or I heard an audio version of the lecture you gave at the Van Meter last year. I taped it in it. I put it on the podcast. That's where I heard it. Okay. I heard it on you.

It was absolutely fantastic. Thank you. You got my, it was, that is the kind of like, like research and work that I love because that is the stuff we can do. We can't, we can't make up encounters, you know, there's only so much stuff, but like, yeah, you know, like investigating the subculture of a very small culture. Oh, it's so much fun. It's really fun, but also really important. Like, I think that is such a great lecture. I hope you give it again because lectures should be one and done, in my opinion.

That is such a good lecture. I feel like I'm going to have a conference in Omaha just so I can invite you come speak. Do that again. Oh, that's awesome. So I'm really like the whole Douglas thing. That's Eastern Nebraska. It is. It's literally a building of, I think, 110 people.

And then it's just south of that. So, I mean, when I say it's in the middle of nowhere, it's about as desolate as like the lower 48. You know, like there's large swaths of Nebraska, probably like Iowa, other Midwest states. There's just nothing around. But there's tributaries going all through there. It's close to Missouri River. There's like three creeks. There's Logan Creek, Skull Creek.

And the little Nemaha, all grow through there. There's a lot of water sources. It's one of the biggest areas for deer hunting. But yeah, it's the closest, like, town would be Palmira, which, you know, it's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's south of Lincoln. Just, you know, it's probably 30 minutes away from it. Midwest. listeners are going to love this episode. They're going to make this so regional. I love it. Dude, reach out to me.

I mean, I am just trying to share this information. I'm not a guy who's like, I'm keeping this stuff secret. I don't believe in that. That's, you know, that's not what I'm about, man. Because I feel like if I share stuff, I'll get stuff back. And you're saying that so hunters are having like constant encounters with something in this area or? Well, no, I shouldn't say constant.

Okay. He, Sean was telling me that three, these three hunters, he knows, or two guys he knows, there was three guys who witnessed had this encounter. All three of them together saw the same thing. And it was, oh, wow. A big foot running. And he didn't describe what it looked like. It was dark, you know, or maybe it didn't. I just don't remember it.

But, yeah. So, and they, they had a, you know, kind of in the same area. And, like, you know, maybe like a mile away. It wasn't like the exact same, like, little, you know, forest area. Gotcha. Yeah. Oh, that's wild stuff, man. Mm-hmm.

And so you and your research partner, John, yes. You guys are actually going out yourselves and doing some big foot research into areas. Yeah, we are. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, you know, how do you study UFO? You know, if you want to be like a boots on a ground investigator, right? You have to say, you know, it's like, how do you want to study UFOs as a boots on the ground investigator?

How do you want to study cryptids? You know, it's like, I guess. you go to the places where people have reported them, right? So that's really been our approach. I have some great resources. A guy named Ray Beauchay, who's just kind of like the Fordian historian of Nebraska. You know, he's kind of a,

he was the protagonist in Nick Redfern's book Final Events. He's a pretty big deal. He was the one who kind of brought Rendell Shim to light in the 80s. Oh, wow. But he's a wonderful researcher. And he's the one who really, when I moved here, he was so nice enough, like if I was your age and I want to do business,

the grand investigation. Go to Odo County. There is everything there. John Keel, and here's the thing, Ray was a 15-year-old boy. In the mid-60s, and more precisely, the exact same time, all the stuff was happening in Point Pleasant. This area of Odo County was having the same stuff. Flying humanoid encounters, structured UFO craft landings, a lot of big foot sightings, two big foot encounters where teenagers were, one teenager was thrown in a ditch, one girl was scratched by a large, Bigfoot type creature. Wow. I mean, everything was happening.

You know, it was not just Bigfoot. It was like a lot of black cat settings. Orbs of white over the Missouri River, like every night. So much so that the people in Nebraska City would go into this place called Riverview Drive on a big hill and watch the lights. Like it was normal. Hey, let's go watch the flying orbs of light tonight. And it was just for a two-year person.

period. And Ray Bouchet, when he was 15, called, he had like a, you know, a pen pal relationship with John Keel because I think John Keel, oh, he was this precocious kid who was like, you know, and he was running with Ivan T. Sanderson and a lot of other people, but him and Keel had a good bond so much that they were talking on the phone. And he was describing to John Keel what is happening with all this stuff. And he was telling him that it happened in this certain area called Minersville. It's like now a ghost town, but it's right on the Missouri River. There's a power plant, it has all, geographically, it's just like Point Pleasant. There was also a tragedy that happened there, just like the Silver Bridge. So John Keel told Ray, he goes, well, I've kind of

developed this new term, and it's called a window area. And I think you have one there. And so, you know, and that's what you term point pleasant, you know, an area where the veil is thin between reality. And I know this is maybe getting a little woo-woo out there for, in terms of Bigfoot stuff, but Bigfoot was happening during this time period where there was a lot of UFO action and utter just a lot of high strangeness. You've mentioned a few times that there's certain areas

where there's concentrations. And I want to ask you specifically one more time, I guess. Have you found that you're looking at all these Bigfoot sightings and reports all the way back to the 1800s. Is there a place that or a region in eastern Nebraska that keeps coming up or like you have the pins on the map? And it's like, oh, I've got the triangle, you know, or something like that. Yeah, it's exactly what I was just talking about.

Odo County, Nebraska. You can look it up and you can Google Earth it and it'll have the little highlighted area. And that is, what I'm saying is not, I mean, definitely this is where I have found the most bigfoot settings in historically and somewhat in. the modern times. Now, I think the whole Macy area where the Omaha reservation is, is where I'm hearing most reports like right now in 2023. But there's something about Odo County that really deserves a microscope on. It's just, it's the breadth of how this phenomenon is manifesting itself in all different ways. And I'm not trying to expouse my personal beliefs on what Bigfoot is, But like I'm just saying, like, there is, it's not just Bigfoot people are encountering here.

It's, it's kind of all the stuff, you know. And, you know, a lot of the way Bigfoot behaves, you know, in terms of like what people are having experiences are, they're getting rocks thrown at them. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. You know, they're getting whooped at. You know, a lot of that sounds like poltergast activity to me. You know, when people describe poultry gas activity, it's like they're getting pushed by an invisible force or rocks thrown at them or. A feeling of, like a nauseating feeling, you know, like...

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That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. So, I mean, like, I'm not saying, you know, maybe there's something about a flesh and blood Bigfoot that has kind of these infrared sound things that, you know, zap people and make them feel weird. Maybe that might be the thing. I sort of tend to think of everything as different manifestations.

of potentially the same source. Maybe. You know, ask me next month, I'll change my mind. But like, that's the idea I'm sort of interested in now because it just seems there's a lot of patterns between, you know, UFOs, ghosts and Bigfoot, for instance, that I'm just like, it's hard to deny the similarities when people have these encounters, in my opinion. Have you found that, you know, sometimes some places there's, there's similar. similar things between the reports like, oh, it was a big foot that was white or it had a yellow part of its fur on its head. Have you found anything like that sets the big foot in your part of Nebraska apart from a report that you might read from British Columbia or California or anything like that? That's a great question.

I find that in terms of like just, I feel like the ones in the Pacific Northwest are a lot of like really kind of reddish, brown hair. And the ones I hear about here seem to be dark to burn. And I've never really thought about that actually as a pattern, but I'm glad you mentioned that. But there was one of my favorite saying was in Shatter, Nebraska, like, you know, about 15 years ago was by a college professor who saw like an eight-foot tall, whitish gray creature. I thought that was pretty cool. And up in northern Nebraska, I have heard, I have never read the accounts, but I have heard that there is a white big foot that people have seen or big feet, you know, or a big foot like creature, you know. But in terms, yeah, I'm not fine.

I'm finding actually quite a bit of varieties. And, you know, people describe different, you know, some of these creatures have like really red eye shine, you know, in the night. Some don't. And some have that real conical head. And some people don't report the conical head. So it is, it is kind of, I haven't found like a pattern in terms of like we're seeing one kind or two kinds. And, you know, I also.

think there's kind of like it's a hard thing to report because the amount of adrenaline and orphans I mean this is like you were seeing somebody that should not exist I guess so it must be so ontologically discombobulating that like it would be hard to gather in a real accurate read and I believe people's accounts when they're talking about this stuff obviously I know there's something to it but like you know I don't think I'd be able to accurately describe a big foot of my side because I'd be in so much shot I had a lot of fur and it was scary. I don't know. That's a great point.

You know, like how much you, you must have to be able to just calm yourself down. Yeah. And like be almost a trained observer. Like a military dude in order to get these. I don't know how these guys are able to, you know, get the description. Because yeah, like you, I'd probably be freaked out. I'd be freaked out. And I would also be like, I think like in just such a state almost like,

It seems like when I imagine, like, because I've never had like, you know, that confirmation experience of anything high strange. I've had some like weird things happen, but like nothing where I couldn't sort of rule out or just go, oh, I don't know. But I feel like if I had that confirmation experience of any kind with high strangeness, it would be such a shock because it would be so unreal and otherworldly, you know. So, I mean, I want it, obviously. I was out today from 9, you know, 8 a.m. until 5 p.m.

at wildlife management places in Odo County looking for stuff. What are you taken out there in order to be prepared in case you actually encounter something? Right. I mean, I, you know, John and I sort of have the same-ish, I mean, probably not identical, but like the same ish, like kind of a, you know, philosophy when it comes to this. I don't like feel so scared. I'm more scared of humans. Like to me, how do I prepare myself for some weird human when I go out, you know, in the rural

areas, to be honest. I'm not scared of the phenomenon like that. So no, I don't carry a gun. I don't carry a club. You know, I bring a cell phone in a GoPro and a deck of tarot cards for some inspiration. And I usually, you know, I sort of try to treat it sometimes like you're making a fairy altar. And sometimes I'll take a little, you know, piece of bread off my turkey sandwich and sprinkled out for the, you know, spirit elves of the forest. And yeah, I mean, like, I'm open to it all. When I'm going out there, like, I'm going out to these places where, because that is the one thing that's wonderful about, you know, cryptids and Bigfoot is that it is boots on the ground research that I feel like, sure, the chances are low, but someone did see

something here. If you, you know, if you believe the anecdotal account that you're, you know, you're going out to this location based on that. So, like, you know, when I hear these stories, it's not like, I'm like, I don't know. I didn't get proof that this person had a big friend encounter, but I believe enough that they believe the story. And therefore, it's enough for me to spend the day checking it out. So I prepare myself. I go in there, I kind of, you know, I go in there with a real positive attitude, like,

hey, man, I'm like, you know, due to my 40s, who just gets to be out in nature. It's a great way to, like, hike and be outdoors, but you have, like, a person. purpose, you know. So I guess, you know, like, yeah, I'm looking for prints. I'm looking for structures. And today, John and I, we kept on finding the shape, a Y-shaped, giant Y-shaped branches that looked like they were tucked up in the nooks of trees. You know, some we kind of like, oh, actually, that looks like a tree break. Yeah, I see where that tree filled out. But there was, I mean, we took a lot of pictures today. We were kind of like, wow, this kind of was a, this is a definitely a worthwhile trip. You know, we're going to go back there for sure.

Yeah, and I'll tell people, it was the Triple Creek Wildlife Reserve, Wildlife Management Area right south of Palmyra, if people want to check it out. And there has been a handful of reported bigfoot encounters in the last 10 years that occurred there. So go there and let me know what you find. Dude, good for you for being the dude who's like, hey, here's the keys to the kingdom. Go look for yourself. Yeah, man. I think it's a community effort, though. Like, I really, like, I would love to be able to tell people exactly.

where I had like, you know, something, you know. Why keep it to yourself? It just doesn't make any sense, you know? Totally got it. Totally got it. Have you found there's like a ultimate resource book for Bigfoot info in Nebraska or does that not exist yet? No. Well, this got so in like the 80s and 90s, there was this dude name or is a dude name guy

named Raybo Shea, who I mentioned earlier, who had kind of hit me to this area, really. I credit him with it. And then a guy named Scott Colburn and a guy named Dale Bacon. And then the 80s and 90s, they started the 40th and research center of Nebraska. And honestly, cops were getting so many calls about UFOs, Bigfoot Encounters on farm fields that they didn't have time or the bandwidth to go out to this old lady's house where she said, you know, a Bigfoot was taking apples from the orchard. So they would call these guys, almost like X-Files, and say, all right, we got a Bigfoot encounter. It would be like 1987 and they go, all right, we'll go check it out. So they were doing this for like 15 years.

But anyways, they had this kind of an encyclopedia of Nebraska 40 in research. All the Nebraska stuff that they collected, they put in this big volume. It's by Raybo Shea put it together. You can find out on Amazon. It's kind of a coffee table book. And to me, that's like the Nebraska high-strandge Bible. I have like the pages memorized. You know, it goes from everything to, you know,

Holder Grice, ghost, you know, tons of UFO stuff, tons of Bigfoot stuff, lots of alien black cats and, you know, just great stuff, kangaroo sightings, you know, like all the good stuff. So, yeah, that is a resource I recommend if you're, you know, a lonely, you know, 40 and research from Nebraska, you, you need this book. You absolutely, I'm going to have that book in the show notes and you can. Yes. Hit that link and check it out. Please do.

out right after this. Yeah. I always like talking to researchers where you can tell that they've taken the time to look up articles. What have you found is the best way to find these, these old articles that might not be on the internet or, you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah.

Absolutely. If you just stick to the Google search of any state, I mean, like, I guess, well, it depends on what state. I'll speak for Nebraska and maybe you found this in Iowa. You'll find stuff. Obviously, but it is pretty limited, man. Like, you know, it really is pretty limited, surprisingly. But what I have found in the state of Nebraska,

they have all the library systems in every county in Nebraska are linked up. And you can go on the, gosh, it's like Nebraska Public Library. I cannot remember the name of it. It's, we would be easy to find. But you can go to any county, like Otto County. This is how I found a lot of my research. And I went to libraries and literally spent days at libraries, you know, going through old records,

I found stuff. But I have a couple. I'll give you my three-pronged approach to finding old historical. Sweet. Right. Okay. So one is the first step you want to do is if your state is lucky enough to have these county historical records of all the newspapers, all the newspapers from all the little

towns and stuff like that, go there. And within there, you can keyword search. And if you type in Bigfoot, you'll see stuff from the 60s on. But if you type in Wildman, Harry Wildman, and just play around with different keyword searches, oh my God. I mean, I was like, my face like turned white. I almost felt like I was getting sick because I'm like, what? There's Bigfoot reports. I'm getting like 1891.

You know, like what is happening? And it really was truly shocking, you know, because I did not expect to find that. And Ray was like, he's like, do some late work. I'm telling you, you will find stuff because I have. he's like if you look at it and so I did and I've I've also I will call up historians this is another approach I have I will call up a county historian almost every county in Nebraska has a historian or if it's a big enough town like Nebraska City has their own historian but I met a historian at the library I brought her a nice a nice scone in a latte and we sat down all day and she I think because I brought

her the pastry in the copy she was so like you know tickled by that she bent over backwards for me and was just bringing out stuff. She's like, you want to photocopy it's all this. I'm like, oh, my God. And I spent like $40 on like photocopies. Yeah, I have like files in my closet over here. And I mean, it's amazing to me that is like just like finding treasure. So I mean, like librarians have been an amazing resource.

I had this librarian Table Rock, Nebraska, the town of like 1500. But this lady every once in all emails, she's like, look, what I found there was a haunting in this house that three different people moved, live in this house and kept them moving out because they were scared of the ghost. I'm like, thank you, you know, and I'll send her like a gift card or something like that, you know, but like I kind of try to treat them really nicely because the amount of stuff they send me. And then they get excited.

A lot of these historians, I think, are bored, dude. And like, when you call them say like, hey, I'm a, I always present myself as, you know, hey, I'm like, you're working on a project for, and I am. I am sort of like writing a collection of these stories. I'm working on a project of Nebraska folklore, urban legends, you know, UFO is paranormal, this nag. And then I, you know, and then I convince them I'm not a crazy person. And then, I mean, it's been rare where I haven't had one of these librarians or historians really helped me out. And then you kind of put a bug in them and then all of a sudden they're like, I mean, I think a lot of times they're sitting at the desk, you know, indexing like the computer monitors.

And they would rather than librarians. They love what they do. So they love research. They love books. They are willing to help. You really have to try. It will work. And then another approach I have is honestly, and this is hilarious, I will cold call park rangers.

I will cold call. What? Oh, yeah. I'm not joking. I cold call. I cold call. I probably cold called nearly every state park in Nebraska. And I've had a couple amazing bites.

A lot of people are just like, no, no, no. you know, whatever. Most of people are just, shoot me down pretty quick. But two, like one, Fahtnal forest in, it's actually not far from Oma,

it's in Bellevue, which is like 20 minutes from where. Sure. Yeah. In the late summer, and this is like a park, I mean, Omaha is like a million people.

So it's not like a, it's a city, you know, so like Bellevue was close to Oma, which is, you know, close to the downtown Oma, which is kind of a small Midwest metropolis.

And this guy, who's a lawyer, he was a bird watcher and a bird photographer. And he would come to this final forest. You can look it up, funnel forest folks. And there's been a couple in the 70s, there was two pretty well BFRO cases that happened right around there. So it's not a huge surprise. But this guy came in shaken.

And he was like a retired guy, 75 years old, came to the front desk. And he said, I was down by the Missouri River on the trail, taking pictures of some birds. and I saw a incredibly large creature staying on two feet with a log in its hand. Oh. And I ran. And he ran back.

And this guy would come for the last 20 years. He's been there like weekly, even the winter. You know, and like he sells his photographs. And he's just kind of this nice, sweet old man. He came in there and he was nearly in tears and said, I will never come back here again. But you guys need to know what I saw. He left and he has not been back since. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society.

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Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for Reese's. Bigfoot encounters. And I don't sound super serious. I kind of sound kind of light and fun. Oh, you know, isn't that fun?

Anyways, I'm researching. Is there any other story? She's like, well, a month ago. And then, you know, it's amazing. She's like, I also have a ghost story if you want to hear it. And I go, I love to hear it. And I gave her my email. She's like, I'll write it out.

I'll be better. But she told me about a ghost that she had. in her house when she lived in Minnesota as a kid. Like, and so, like, people want to talk about this stuff. It's unbelievable. And I feel like most people kind of like, when I tell people this, they're like, man, how do you have like, you know, it's not courage or how do you have like, you know, the stupidity to actually take the time to do this stuff?

I'm just like, I don't think you know until you try. If someone called my work and asked me if, like, the building was haunted and I knew it was, I would love to tell them about it. So I think it's one of these things where, like, you know, all this folklore, all this stuff to me is folklore until it isn't, you know. And so it's just it's just a convenient way, you know, baskets put everything in. Some people when I say folklore, I think I'm diminishing the validity of the stuff. I am not. Obviously, I was out there today looking for stuff.

But all this stuff I find is so important to keep the history, the urban legends, the mythology of these. rural communities in every state because it really has an impact on who we are as a society. Because whether we know it or not, you know, we are practicing magic every day. We are, you know, we are influenced by the past in ways we don't even know. And a lot of times it's folklore. I mean, there's not a building in Omaha has a 13th floor. That's superstition. That's magic, you know.

Wow. Before people play a football game, what do they do? They walk out in the field at the same time. They flip a coin. I mean, that's a magic ritual. You know, so all this stuff plays a very big role in our lives. And I feel like maybe not everyone to recognize that. But it's kind of fun because it's a way to reenchant the world again.

You know, so I think Bigfoot is like one of those things that is like, you know, even though they have a version of Bigfoot, I think it's been seen on every continent, right? Pretty much. Like, you know, it's kind of a, it's a global phenomenon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, in one way or another, yes. Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, sort of there's like this American Bigfoot. It's almost like a cowboy, a cowboy cryptic. You know, it's kind of, there's something very American about Bigfoot. And I know the versions in other countries, I'm not diminishing them. I feel like the way we perceive Bigfoot, the way we talk about it as, you know, Americans is, I bet very different than they do in other cultures. So the cultural lens of where you are location-wise and, you know, just, you know, how your society, you're around. you know, behaves, it will affect how people look at, you know, UFOs or Bigfoot and stuff like that. I think it really does play a huge part.

And that's why I think, you know, folklore is in all these topics are not just fun, but also very important to the human story. Extremely important. I agree. I agree 100% for sure. Man, this has gotten me jazzed up. Dude. That's some of the best advice that I have gotten on the podcast for how to, you know, research. That's amazing, Steve. That's some really, really good advice. Yeah. Well, I mean,

it's truly of a lack of not knowing what to do. And I was just like, I don't know. I guess this is, you know, like, I don't know what I do. I guess I'll just call state parks. But, but, you know, yeah, it's, it's, and also I call, um, I call so anywhere, any place that has printed a new story about high strangeness, UFOs goes for Bigfoot that happened locally. I always called the reporter who wrote the story or email. if they're still alive, you know, a lot of times I've reached out and the person I had passed on by then. But like a lot of times, I've gotten some incredible stories and incredible information and new leads on where to look by calling reporters. And they love to talk about it.

And a lot of them kind of like, talk like, look, I report about this. I don't believe it. And they're kind of like, I'm like, whatever. I don't care if you believe it. Just give me the information. Yeah. Oh. So I have a thick skin with this stuff.

Dude, Steve, you got to come out with a book someday about Nebraska. I want to, yeah. High strings. It would be amazing. Yeah, I mean, I kind of started writing a book about Nebraska, but I think what I want to do is write a book about Odo County because it's just. Yeah, totally. It's enough, you know, it really is.

I have, like, more than enough. But I feel like right now I'm still, like, in that research process where I'm not done researching. And there's more work to be done. So, yeah, but I definitely, like, every time I go out, I keep, like, a high stringed journal. So anytime I do any kind of, even like deep research just at home, like you know on my computer or I go out and look at stuff I'm always journaling about my experience that's hard to you know it's it's just a record it's

more for myself than anyone I'm not you know it's just you know a good way to keep notes and whatnot hmm Steve this has been a amazing super fun chat about regional Nebraska in crazy Bigfoot stories and it's been fun I really hope there's a few listeners listening right now they're like I in Nebraska, I have this story. I should tell Steve. Yeah, you should. They get in contact with you. Right. Well, all my social media is under Bergmaster 5,000. And just, you know, if you,

honestly, if you do have a story, you know, is weird or is small. I don't think there's any version of high stringent that's smaller insignificant. Even if it's just a wild synchronicity that opened up a new way of thinking or a new line of research for you, I want to hear about it. Like, and I'm also, if you, you know, if you want to do your own research you're Nebraska and you don't know where to begin. I am happy to give you a couple places to start. And then as long as you share the information with me, you know, let's make this a symbiotic things.

I do believe in the community. You know, a rising tide lifts all shifts, my friend. Exactly. Yeah. Good stuff. So I will have all that info in the show notes. Thank you so much for hanging out today, Steve. Thanks for having me.

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