Bigfoot Society - Under Attack at our Family Cabin in West Virginia

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

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Links to those are in the show notes. In Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, we've got the privilege of talking to Will tonight. He's a listener that reached out to me from Virginia, and he's had quite a few things happened to him over the years. But how's it going tonight, Will? It's going all right.

I'm just glad to finally being able to look this off my chest. Absolutely. You were talking to me before the interview, and you said you've been listening almost since the very beginning of the podcast, and I appreciate that. That's pretty cool. It's crazy to think it's almost going on five years, but you had sent me an email, and you've had some really interesting things happen. I'm excited to hear your story, and then maybe ask some questions. But I'm going to go ahead and give the reins over to you will, and any context, our listeners need to know. know, feel free to go ahead and start sharing your story. Okay, sounds good. So I'm originally from the state of New York. My mom's side of the family is from West Virginia where this is pretty much all started from. As a little kid since the show Finding Bigfoot had came out, it really sparked my interest. And I knew I was like, hey, grandma and grandpa, they have a cabin in West Virginia. It's in the middle of nowhere. I was about 12 years old. Bud to my uncle so many things. times I'm like, take me up to the cabin. Let's go Bigfoot hunting. Let's go Bigfoot hunting. He

finally said, okay, all right, let's do it. So after watching Finding Bigfoot, being a kid, I was like, I want to do everything they do from call blasting to setting up trail cameras and things of that nature. So nothing really happened our first time when I went out when I was 12, but we would spend a solid week up at the cabin at a time during the middle of summer break. Everything really started kicking off when I was 13 years old. And I don't know, it's hard to imagine experiencing things at such a young age that everybody in my life had always told me, oh, that's fake, that's make-believe, that's not real, you're crazy, to then being like, huh, I saw this, and you all tell me it's fake, but it's flesh and blood, and I saw it with my own two eyes. So the first thing that had

happened was me and him got up to the cabin. It was just a normal kind of hot day in West Virginia. We unloaded a bunch of stuff. And my uncle had this big Bluetooth speaker and we were going to do call blasting. So we had stayed up pretty late, probably about one or two o'clock in the morning, just blasting calls off the front porch of the cabin. And really didn't hear too, too much, nothing out of the ordinary the first night we were there. And the second night we decided, Let's go camping. We'll set up a trail camera. We camped around the property that night.

That's when things started more peaking and popping off. I don't know if it's because how the cabin was set up, that things didn't really want to go around it. My uncle had these ideas. Let's do wood knocks. That night, which was the second night we were there, he started popping off wood knocks on the tree. Everything was pretty quiet to start.

and he had gotten up and sorry Jeremiah this is it's just a lot to think back on and finally be able to talk to he had gotten up to use the bathroom and I heard him get up and it wasn't nothing out of the ordinary for him to get up and hear somebody walk away he came walking back I heard him get back in his tent and it was probably good 20 minutes later being young in the middle of the woods it's hard to go back to sleep have to hear somebody get up and I had known that that he was laying down and all of a sudden it just sounded like something on two feet was just pacing around where we were camping at. And I tried to wake him up and I didn't really want to yell or anything and I was creaking out.

And I was like, hey, wake up. And I didn't get any response out of him. And eventually on that night, I just heard whatever it was, it just walked away. And I had finally had fallen back asleep. And I woke up in the morning and I ran up, woke my uncle, I'm like, did you hear what was going on last night? Did you hear that? And he's just like, no. I was like, dude, something's completely walking around our camp.

He's like, okay, well, take me to where you think you heard it walking around. And we got up that morning and we walked around. And we actually had found a pretty deep indental footprint. And I still wish that I spoke with this uncle who used to take me up there, but we really don't talk much anymore. and all these other things that I'm going to talk, ramble on about, I guess. He had all these pictures on his phone of the stuff that we had found and seen and stuff. But he had a picture of the footprint, and the only kind of crappy part was there was only one that we could really find. And then during the day we had went back to the cabin, and we were talking about it.

We were both excited, but at the same time, he wore a size 13 boot, and it was bigger than his boot. and I looked at it. My uncle's not the type of guy to get nervous, but he was just like, he was always on the spectrum of, I don't know if this thing's real, but how this thing is probably real. That night we had gotten back to the cabin. Nothing really took too much place during that time,

during that trip, other than I just heard something just pacing around us, and we kicked it back at the cabin for the rest of the couple days we stayed up there. And it was kind of like a lot of things let in let up to me, not going back to the cabin, which I haven't been back to that cabin since I was 16, and I refused to go back. But anyway, so the next summer that we went up there, this is when things started to get a lot more uppity with activity.

And it was just, it was a lot more rampant. I don't know if, I just, I don't know, it was just got a lot different. During that summer when I was 14, we always, went up to the cabin at the same time. And during this time, things just got more intense. So we got up there the first night. It was pretty quiet. But the second night, we started just cooking over and open fire. And we were just hanging out, being loud and rowdy. The sun started to go down a little bit. We always cooked over the open fire when we were there because we didn't have a grill or anything up to the cabin. And it has a tin roof. So we started hearing just like little tings,

off the tin roof. And it sounded like something was throwing rocks. And he looked at me and I looked at him and I was like, huh. I took a rock and I threw it back up there. And then it just started progressively getting louder. It wasn't like repetitive. It was like ting. It was like you hear like ting.

And then it'd be like three or four second pause. And then you hear like another ting. And that's when it was just completely out of the ordinary. We both looked at each other and we're like, that's not natural. What would be up on the side of this mountain just throwing things in it? perfectly hitting this roof. Now, I say it's a cabin, but it was just really one of those big double-eyed trailers, but it was on the nicer end. And I started throwing rocks back after we would hear rocks. And all of a sudden, it was just like this, bam on the top of the roof. And you saw this massive rock, almost the size of a basketball just roll and just smack on the ground in front of us. And we both looked at each other, and we were like, what the heck is that? And he's just like, Stop throwing rocks up there. Stop throwing rocks up there.

This isn't a good idea. So we got the food off the fire and we just went back in the house. And I'm getting chills even talking about this. It was just like, what the heck is going on? And so sun went down and we were getting ready for bed. My uncle's, let's not go outside tonight. Let's not piss anything off that's in the woods that we shouldn't be pissing off. I was okay with that.

I was a little bit on the, a little bit on the shakier side after that happened because I just wasn't expecting that. to happen just literally a rock the size of the basketball smashing off those roof so it came out it was about 1030 11 o'clock at night my uncle had went to bed so it was a one bedroom and then I would sleep in the living room and how the living room was set up was you'd walk through the door and we had a futon against the wall and then against the other wall there was another futon but there was a window where when I laid down I could look up out the window and there was a window in front of me so that night I was just I finally had falling asleep and all of a sudden I just heard something loud just pacing and not even pacing I don't want to say it was pacing but just circling and it was loud footsteps and it made my heart

start beating through my chest and I was just like okay I was like maybe I'm hearing things and I would just try to keep myself calm until I heard it come around the side of the cabin And I could tell this thing was on two feet. And I heard step on the bottom of the deck. And the step had the steps went up. There was five steps near reach the top of the deck. I heard step and I, you heard the wood. And I'm just sitting there shaking.

I'm like, oh, I'm like, what is this? What's going on? Am I dreaming? But no, I was 100% awake and my heart was pounding through my chest. And I could hear just these really deep breathing. and it was just almost like a grunting. It was just something like I have never heard of in my life. And I'm sitting there and I'm freaking out.

And I hear this thing take another step. And I'm like, oh my gosh, it's going to the door. And I heard another step. And then I could hear this breathing and this grunting still because it was only like 10 to 15 feet from the edge of the deck to the front of the door. And I had sat up a little bit. And I'm like, please don't come through the door. Please don't come through the door.

and I don't know if I really should be saying this, but any time we went up to the cabinet, you're in the middle of nowhere. So my uncle would always give me a little sidearm, and he would always carry a sidearm. Because, God forbid, you don't know if you run into something. You're in the middle of nowhere. I can go out to pee, and there could be a mountain line outside,

just out of context. So I hear this thing at the door, and I just hear, it sounded like it grabbed the door handle, and it just jiggled a little bit. So I laid up, and I had this sidearm on my chest, and I was sitting there, I'm like, please don't come through the door. I don't work in a die if this thing comes to the door.

I'm hyperventilating. I hear the door jingle, and then it stopped. And I just heard like a smack, like it jumped off the other side of the deck. And I just heard it pacing off into the woods. And at that time, I had noticed that my uncle had woken up and he came running down the hallway. So I don't know if he had startled this thing when he came flying down the hallway, or if it was just curious and just wanted, we only went up there for a week in the summer

and two weeks during hunting season. So I honestly don't know what was going on. And we woke up that next morning. And again, but this time we were able to see a footstep and then it was like a five to six foot stride into another footstep. And then off the other side of the deck, we were able to get three footsteps to where it jumped off

the other side of the deck. You could see where it hit the ground with one footstep. foot, another foot, and then straight into the woods. And I just, that really still eats at me to this day. I still, sometimes if it clicks in my mind the night, I still have trouble trying to sleep. And then this is hard, some of this is hard to talk about. And then the following night, me and my uncle decided to stay up. We decided to stay up until one or two clock in the morning. I can't remember. And we sat on that deck and he had his AR-15 and we just waited because It freaked him out just as bad as it freaked me out, I think.

And then that trip up to the cabin, we cut short. We only wanted up staying for three days. And my uncle doesn't, he wouldn't even talk about a lot of this stuff to this day. I don't know if it freaked him out that bad. But it took me a lot of convincing. We went up there one more time. And this was the last time that we ever went up there. Me, I don't know if he's ever been back up there.

I know my grandparents were trying to sell the property. And they've been trying to sell it for years now. So the third time, which was the last time we went up there, which was the following year, it just like everything, I don't know if we pissed this thing off by going up there. I don't know if they migrate through this area at this time of year, but this time everything just went absolutely like bonkers off the wall. So there's a long driveway to get up to where the cabin is. And in the middle of the road, and I wish I still, like I said,

had these pictures, I might be able to get him and email them to you. There was a tree branch broken off, snapped off perfectly healthy tree. And this branch was really wide and it was placed right in the middle of the driveway to go up to the cabin. And my uncle looked at me when we saw that. And I was just like, we're already here. It's an hour and 20 minute drive from the house. We both enjoy going up here other than the stuff that happens. We used to have good time going up there. I said, let's just try to stay a couple days of things. If we get, if we get freaked out, we'll just go home. And he's like, all right, that's a good idea. So we moved this tree branch out of the road. And just instantly, when we got up to the cabin, I just got this feeling that's something

or something is just there. And I can't express this feeling. And I didn't want to say anything to him. And we got everything packed in the house and we decided to, all right, we'll stay the night. So the first night, we just did our normal thing. We went outside. We cooked dinner. Nothing happened. Nothing hit in the house or anything crazy. And so the first night, we kept everything pretty calm.

The second night, same thing. We just went hiking. We hung out around the cabin. We just made a bunch of noise, cooked food, hung out. Nothing too crazy. And then the third night, we were sitting outside on the deck. And it was probably 11, 12 o'clock at night. Wellness, longevity, health as a lifestyle.

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And I was like, you really think that's going to work? And I said, screw it. I said, let's just see, because we were, I'm addicted to being a big foot nut. And about 20 minutes later, we heard a wood knock. And it was off in the distance. It wasn't nothing like super close. And I looked at him, he looked at me, and I was just like, okay. So I whooped again.

Then 10 seconds later, you heard a whoop, but it was off to our right and the wood knock. It came from the left. And he looked at me and I was just like, okay, whatever. So I whooped again, but I whooped three times again this time. And then this thing imitated because I paused three to four seconds in between my whoops. It wooked again, but it whooped the same whoop I did. And then I was just like, okay. And then this time I decided, I watched a lot of Finding Bigfoot, like I said.

But you know how Bobo does this bigfoot call. I'm like, I'm going to do big foot call. I just want to see. So I let out, and it probably sounded funny, but I let out what I could to be the best Bigfoot call I could. And then I don't know if I kick this thing off by trying to imitate it and it didn't sound right. But in 30 seconds, I, this scream to howl still just sit here and it haunts me.

I'm so scared because I'm an avid hunter to be out in the middle of the woods and hear this noise again. It almost sounded like the Ohio howl I've heard it a couple times on your show and I've done research to try to figure out what it sounded like. But it was just like it freaked me out. It was just like nothing in the woods should make that kind of a noise. And I've been hunting in West Virginia and Virginia pretty much since I was eight years old with my uncle and my grandpa and my dad. and it's just nothing in the woods that lives here should make a noise like that. And I was just like, holy crap. And then the rest of that night we would hear whoops and stuff back and forth.

And I don't, like I said, I don't know if we just pissed everything off in the woods that night. But it was crazy. He used to have, it was crappy audio because it was in 2015 on his phone. But we used to have audio to where you can almost hear these, like, You could hear it faintly, and it was just absolutely insane. And I wish I could have a way to imitate these noises, but it's just not natural. It was just, it still freaks me out to even think about something in the woods that can make noises like this. And so we had went back in the cabin that night, and we woke up pretty early in the morning as we were deciding,

If we wanted to stay, we just sounded like we pissed everything off. And we were up for a good 20, 30 minutes, and we started packing everything up, and we were just sitting down for a minute. And all of a sudden, it was just like something ran up to the side of the house, the cabin, and slapped it, and, like, it vibrated. And we both looked at each other. He jumped up with his gun, and he ran around the house. But there was nothing there.

But he had a picture where you could see this. it was almost like an oily handprint slammed on the side of this house and I mean I'm getting chills even talking about this and it was just absolutely insane and then at that moment we grew heat when he came back in the house he got to go he's

we're going man he took a picture of that handprint but ever since those things happened up at the cabin I haven't been back and I refuse to go back and my biggest goal was I wanted to find Bigfoot but I want to leave it alone I want it to if he's up in that

cabin in West Virginia, I just want him to live happy. I don't want to piss him off. And quite frankly, I don't know if I even want to truly experience all of that again, because it still messes with me sometimes to this day. And when we were leaving the cabin that morning, my uncle swears up and down. And I believe him because he's never lied to me in my entire life that he saw something seven to eight feet tall and black just tucked back in the side of the woods just peeking around a tree now i didn't see it but it was just the events that happened up there's just still freaked me out so had a few questions it's really interesting and thank you for sharing what you went through during those summers i was interested what particular calls you were call blasting

So there was a finding Bigfoot app that used to be on the app store where it would have the Ohio Howl, it would have Bobo's call. It would have a whole bunch of different things where you could hook your phone up to the speaker and just blast off of that. Oh, really? I had no idea. That's awesome. Because this cabin, your nearest neighbors four or five miles away. It was literally in the middle of nowhere. Okay.

And you had no phone service. And you had to. It was only landline only. That kind of leads into my next question, which is, can you share anything about what area of West Virginia this cabin trailer is in? So if people know West Virginia, it's in between Warden. It's pretty close to Wardensville, West Virginia. It's just on the outskirts to where you almost go down corridor each into Moorfield, West Virginia. But it's tucked way back.

You can only get up there in the four-wheel drive vehicles. I don't know what made my grandparents. buy this cabin. They bought it thinking maybe like a family summer house, but you can't get up there at the car. It's in Hardy County. They'll probably be a listener that will know about Wardensville. It looks like it's a very small town, about 265 people. You go out of the town of Wardensville a little bit, and then you hook her right, and I mean, you just drive forever. Your grandparents own the cabin trailer, correct? Yeah. Did you ever talk to them or ask them about Bigfoot activity on the property?

No, but my, I probably, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea. So my grandma, she's from a small town in Glady, West Virginia. And she always told me, because my great grandpa always told her, that you don't want to mess with things that come out in the night in the mountains. Because they're very hardcore. She grew up in the middle of nowhere. And my grandfather was a coal miner. my great-grandfather was a coal miner and lived in a town of 75 people.

And he would always want all the great-grandkids and the grandkids in at night. He did not like us out at night on his property. And my grandma was the same way. I could ask her if you want me to and I could always email you what she says. Oh, Will, you know there's stories. Will, you got to ask for me. That would be amazing. Yeah.

I'm sure they ran into stuff on that property. Yeah, because my grandparents haven't run up there. Like I said, we all stopped going up there. I refuse. I will not go back up there. You could give me a tank and I won't go back up there. So nobody goes up anymore. No.

I don't know if my grandfather's been up there recently, but I refuse to. Okay. Yeah, you've got to reach out. Talk to your grandparents. I always get to talk to them if you can. But yeah, talk to them and ask if there were, if there's anything weird that ever happened at the property. And it might be a thing where you,

You might have to word it a certain way, too. Although they'll know what you're talking about. They would have to know if you say Bigfoot or things like that. But, yeah, they might come back with it. We had some big monkey type things running around. I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Man, that's wild. You say you haven't talked to your uncle lately?

Yeah, we haven't probably talked to a good ear. Okay. But he may potentially have audio and photos. from one of the summers or times up there? Yeah. Okay. I'll reach out to him. There's just no guarantee.

He says, on me, phone. Oh, yeah, no, probably. If you don't mind reaching out, that would be amazing. There's going to be at least one person

that's going to be thinking this because you mentioned you're going to try to sell the property. Yeah, properties for sale, it's on 67 acres. Oh, that's wild. Right near one of the,

right near, I don't remember the name of the property. National Force that runs through there. I know there's one big force that should run through there. I'll get the address for you, too, from my grandparents. You can Google Map that is literally in the middle of nowhere.

It feels like there's it feels like there's more history to that area too. I think when you start digging a little bit, you will probably you'll probably find something else, I think. That's wild. You mentioned

that your uncle had an AR-15, Yeah, we both always carried two AR-15 and two pistols and went up there. Okay, so you were ready to go. Yeah, I always had this anticipation. Like, I see this thing. I'm going to shoot this thing. But you know what? I'm good.

After the next thing that we talk about, and I'm good. You know what? I don't know what kind of caliber bullet would stop something like this. It's just crazy. Any weird smells at any time when you were up in that? cabin area. Oh yeah, you would always get like, I mean, I know what a bear smells like, and it was just like, it smelled like a dead carcass mixed with a wet bear. It was just this funky, weird, nasty smell. They didn't happen all the time. Right. Okay. Gotcha. Any sounds that were out of place that didn't scream like Bigfoot, but you heard it and you were like, like that's really weird that doesn't really belong out.

I've heard whistles before and almost like a tongue clacking noise almost. It's hard to, like a popping noise almost. Any sounds that would make you think, is there someone else here? Sorry, are there other people here? No, I do for a fact. If something happened and you were in the woods, you were, it'd be a very hairy situation, And you could potentially not make it out of there. I mean, I know for a fact there was nobody up there.

How close would you say the closest neighbor is to this area? It's a long way away. I probably a good 10-minute drive down the road, 15-minute drive to the cabin. I'm not really sure how you kept going back after some of this stuff, man. It's just like, I want to see it kind of curiosity. And then after that last thing, I was just like, nope, I'm good. Oh, the oily handprint on the side of the trailer. Was it a certain color at all?

It was called, I don't know how to, like almost like a caramel color, like a caramel, like a really light caramel color almost. But I also could have been because the side of the house was dirty or something. Sure. I only saw it off the picture because like my uncle really just wanted to go. Like he was done. My uncle's a big dude. He's six foot one. He's got big hands, unless they made his hand look small.

It shook the side of it. And he was just like, nope, we're done. What kind of food were you cooking out on the campfire? Just bring like a hamburger meat and hot dogs and sausage patties and bacon. Okay. Anything. So I'm just going to say some really weird sounds just for fun. Nothing that sounded like a baby crying?

No. Okay. And random like metallic. door opening, anything I thought? No. Okay, cool. Good. But sometimes you were almost here.

I don't want to say it like this, but it was like somebody trying, who doesn't speak fluent English, it almost sounded like they were trying to say my name or my uncle's name. We've heard that a time or two. And it just didn't really make sense. You're just jogging things back in my memory, asking questions. And it was just weird. That's really unsettling because it's almost like something could be hearing your uncle say your name or you say your uncle's name and then it's trying to mimic it, right? Yeah. Dude, that's wild because I know that in West Virginia there's a lot of stories of things mimicking, trying to lure you out in the woods.

West Virginia is a wild place. When you would hear those what sounded like your name, would you hear other sounds at the same time or in close proximity to that? I don't know. It very well could have been, but I don't know if I was just so fixated on hearing my name being called that I really just focused on that. Because that happened in the morning when I would like, I get up to go outside the pee. And then I knew my uncle was sleeping and then like off the, I could look straight into the woods and it sounded like it was coming from like, right in front of me almost. Wow.

So you heard it in the morning. Were there any other times a day that you would hear that as well? No, it was only if I went outside in the morning by myself. And my uncle heard the exact same thing. Like, whoever woke up first would go outside and hear something like that. That's really freaky, dude. That's probably one of the weirdest things I've heard on the show, to be honest. I'm not a huge fan of that one.

It's just creepy. Did that happen many times over the years, or was it only during a certain travel time that you went up there that happened? We would go up there for hunting season in November and nothing. It was only when we went towards the end of June. But we didn't stay it overnight. We would just wake up and go in the morning and then come back in the afternoon. But I don't know if it's because we were there such a short time. But I did notice too a lot, like the deer population just completely dwindled.

down because they've had that cabin we've been going up there since I was like eight and you go we see a 20-30 deer and like towards the last couple times we went hunt you wouldn't see anything which was not like that at all okay I was just going to ask that how the animals were around that area sounds like there used to be a good amount any water sources yeah there was a creek that ran through the property and I know when you first turned on the road and you start driving down there was somebody's housing. He dug huge lake out and he stocked it full of fish. But that was

probably two, three miles from the cabin, but that's still water and fish. I'd love to talk to that guy to see what happened when he started digging up his property. There was a cave once you went up the mountain

down the backside. There was a cave that was sitting back there, but I never went up there. My uncle always told me there were the cave. on the backside of the property. Okay, man. Oh, there's... Oh, yeah, I'm getting the vibes about that area for sure.

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And they live in the middle, literally in the middle of nowhere. So I was leaving their house one night, and it was dark. It was probably 8 or 9 o'clock. And going down this road, it's called Orndorf's Trout Farm. Anybody in this area would probably know it. And it's this guy. He stocks this huge pond full of trout family. you go fishing and whatnot.

And I start driving past the trout farm and I come around the road and my headlights hit two eyes standing in the middle of this field. And I was just like, what? And it was like nine feet off the ground. So I hit it with my high beams. And honestly, I wish I didn't hit it with my high beams because I literally saw eyes, a whole face, body definition, hair. I could draw this thing to a T.

And it just, I couldn't even pull my phone out to take a picture because I was just something in my brains. You need to leave. You need to leave. Stop looking. Go. And I just, I shut my high meetings off. I looked at this thing probably for a good 10, 15 seconds and I took off.

I was, people were like, how can you not take a picture of it? And I promise you, if you truly see this thing and watch it breathing, it's scary. We were eye to eye. It felt like he was looking into my soul. You don't think. You just don't think. And I could draw it to a T. And I can give you such a vivid description.

It was just utterly terrifying. Like maybe if I had my sidearm on me, I maybe would have gotten out and tried to take my phone out and take a good picture of it or maybe pull my phone up. But I was so freaked out. I just felt like in that situation, I did not want to die. It just freaked me out. Like, this thing could literally rip my car door off, pull me off, and I'm its next meal. At that point, you're looking face-to-face of the creature, 15 seconds. Did it then walk away, or you kept driving, or how did that end?

I peeled off. Like, I completely stopped in the road, and I was looking at this thing, and it made a move. Like, it gesture to start, like, I don't know if it was going to start walking towards me or walking towards the woods, but I just slammed my foot on the gas, and I took off. Like, it just freaked me out. It was only like 20, maybe 30 yards away from the car. Maybe 30 yards. And it just, I always said, I want to get the best picture, the best proof.

And not until you're in a situation like that, everything just changes in your brain. Was this something you were able to bring up to your fiancé and your fiancé's family? No. Her dad thinks something absolutely crazy that Bigfoot doesn't exist. and she is a huge Bigfoot believer, but she just can't hear about it, like me seeing it, I guess, versus we watch Expedition Bigfoot on TV together.

So I just don't know if she doesn't want to believe it's as close to home as she wants to think it is, or I don't know. Oh, so you start talking to her about how I actually saw one, and she's, I don't even want to. Yeah, she doesn't believe you. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be scared to drive it.

from my parents' house. Got it. You said this was near Orndorf's rainbow trout farm. Yeah, trout farm. Did you ever go and talk to them about it at all? No, I probably should. And I'm just so scared people are going to look at me and be like, what is wrong with you?

I think I'm like crazy. Gotcha. I can live it. It's just crazy. This thing, it's embedded in my brain. I've had nightmares about this thing just chasing me down. Do you mind if I ask a few questions about, Go ahead.

I'm all. Okay. Were you able to see a color of if there's any hair on it at all? It's dark brown to black. It being at night, it was just a very, I would say very dark brown. Gotcha. Short or long hair? It was like, if you hold your arms out, the hair came down like three or four inches,

but around like parts of its face, it had no hair on it. Okay. What parts of the face did it not have hair around? So it looked like somebody who had really long hair in the face, but I could see its eyebrows and its forehead didn't have any hair around the top of its forehead. And then just a little bit below its eyes, like its cheekbone. But the biggest thing that stuck out is how wide this thing's mouth was. Like it looks like it could eat an entire watermelon in one bite.

It's almost like the Joker smile. That's very interesting. Interesting. Did it have its mouth open at all? Or could you see the teeth? I don't want to say it like this, but they almost had the demonic smile to its face. Where I could just see a little bit of teeth, but it was like almost like it was smiling. And it was just, it was just so creepy. It's so hard to explain it. It was just like the way it looked at me with its eyes. And like, once I hit it with the high beams, then its mouth opened up a little bit. And I was just like, what?

like I was just so blown away like it's crazy what did it seem to be conveying with its eyes when it was looking at you I almost felt like it wanted me to get out of the car do you know why it would have or did you get any feeling as to why I don't know it was just like part of me this thing was like looking at me in a way come out of the car and then nobody's ever going to see you again it was just that's horrifying it was just yeah it was just wild can you describe the nose shape. It looked like its nose was pushed in a little bit, but it was like, it had like a wider nostril base.

And it was almost like, it was like a flat, it looked like almost like a person's nose, but pushed back a little bit and almost flatter to its face with lighter nostrils. You're looking at the nose and then you have the lips underneath. Is there a lot of space between the lips and the nose or? It had a lot.

Maybe it was like more of a rounded coming down face and everything. was just a little bit more spaced apart than looking at a human's face. Sure. Were you able to see ears at all on the head? No. Okay. Was the hair covering them up?

Yeah. I would think so. Okay. Were you able to see like a certain shape to the head at all? It was almost, it almost looked like it came up. Not like almost like a pin on the top of its head, but like its head came up and it was just like a little bit like pointy at the top. I don't want to, I don't know how to explain.

Explain it. Were you able to tell anything else about the creature, muscular or finition-wise underneath the hair? It looked like, I don't know if you know who Eddie Hall is the bodybuilder. It looked, it was huge. This thing was massive. The weird part was, so I looked at the whole body and its knees look like they sit farther down than our knees. It was just, it had very long. this thing was insane.

It was huge. It was like looking at a nine foot tall, like five foot wide, like bodybuilder. It was huge. Were you able to see the hands or arms at all? Did you notice anything about them? The hands, so when you looked at the hands, it looked like the center of its hand had hair, but towards the end of the fingers, it had no hair. But it had these insanely long fingers.

like its hands, everything was just like, it's just, it was just crazy. Everything was so much more like proportionate. Gotcha. How would you describe the arms? The arms were long, but they weren't like, I know I hear a lot of people say like its hands were down to its knees. They were close, but it wasn't like, like crazy long arms, but the arms were very long. And very, it was just like very tone like Jack, look.

arms. They were massive. Would you say anything that made you think you're looking at, like, a male or a female or an adult or a juvenile or anything at that? Honestly, I want to say I was looking at a male just by the pure, just sizing, like, how I felt aggression coming off of this thing. Were you able to see the feet? No, it was pretty much from, like, the knees up. Okay.

You said you had peeled out. At any time, did you get to see the creature walking around or moving around? No. I just saw it make that one gesture where I didn't know if it was coming forward or going to it's right. And I just didn't want to be there anymore. Don't blame you. If you had to categorize what it looked like, say it looked more like a human or an ape. Or if you could put it into any category like that, could you put it into a certain category?

I could say it looked like 60 to 70% ape and 30% human. Its hands look like ours. Its face structure is like hours, but everything is just other than its lips being, its mouth being so wide. And its eyes were a lot bigger. I will never be able to forget its eyes. It was just like, it's almost like you take two eggs and put it on a face. And the color of the eyes, it was like a reddish, greenish tint to the eyes, which I could have red eyes and then my high beams reflecting off its eyes made it look like that.

But it had tint of red in its eyes. You said it reminded you of an ape in some ways. Any particular ape or just the broad category of ape? I can't remember what it was called, but Dr. Jeff Maldrum talks about them all the time. A great, the giant ape. It reminds me a lot of that. But it just looking at it, and it didn't talk to me in my brain,

but it had some higher form of intelligence by just looking at it and gauging what's each other's next motion going to be. I felt like it planned out how I planned out. If this happens, I'm going to do this, but if this happens, I'm going to do that. Almost like it was playing a weird game of chess with you, sounds like. Yeah, it was like,

it was trying to plot my move while I was trying to plot its move. Which is just terrifying because nothing in the wood should be like that smart, in my opinion. Right. Did you drive back to the same area ever to take a look at it? Yeah. So I actually have gotten my buddy who I used to work with involved. And he was about 6'4 and he's a big foot guy. And I had him go stand in that exact same spot.

And I flipped, I turned the car around and drove down the road and he was just nothing size-wise compared to this thing. It took me a good two weeks to go back to her parents' house because I just was like, I don't want to see this thing again. What happens if it's standing in the middle of the road when I leave this time? Not a thing that you want to have around your fiancé's place. No. And I go, her dad has a hundred acres. And the property at George Washington National Forest is maybe half a mile from where I saw this. Maybe. Because her parents' property butts up to the national forest. It is not surprising. I know it's a very large forest, right? Yeah. I've talked to a few people about things they've encountered in somewhere around that forest. They had to be a little

vague, but I'm not surprised at all that you had that sighting. Your fiancé's father is not into Bigfoot at all. Have you ever asked him if he's experienced anything? out of the ordinary while hunting, though? See, that's what I was going to say. I think he has, but he's too scared to talk about it. Because this man literally grew up in the mountains

of Pennsylvania and hunted his entire life. And all of a sudden, he doesn't like hunting by himself. He will not go back out in the way. He will not hunt by himself. I won't hunt by myself, but... He won't say why he won't go hunting by himself anymore. No, he won't. It's just, he just doesn't.

He refuses to, it seems like. Yeah, something there, dude. But he won't talk about it. He's too much of a macho type of a guy to talk about it. Hopefully someday, maybe give him a few years. Who knows? Will, you have experienced some really interesting things. And I don't think that your story is over,

even though you might want it to be over regarding. It sounds like you're not really wanting to have any more Bigfoot encounters. I don't know. Is that true? I would love to experience it again, but in a different type of a situation. I wouldn't mind seeing a big foot again in person. It would just, I don't want to be in my car driving at night. If I want to see this thing, I want to see this thing with a gun. Because if you can plot out my next move to where I'm going to try to turn and run away

and you're going to chase me, I at least want to have a fighting chance. But I don't even know if a 223 or 5, 5, 5, 6 bullets, it might just laugh. I don't know how powerful this thing is, and I just won't have a fighting chance. Gotcha. So that's for protection more than trying to get a specimen, it sounds like. Yeah, I don't. After seeing this thing's face, I don't think I could pull the trigger. But if it's a little side note, I used to be a deputy sheriff.

So in my brain, I'm wired. If it's me or you, it's me going home. So I'd like to see this thing peacefully, but if it's going to attack me, I'm at least going to try like heck to make it home. That's a big side note. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, you're good. I guess I should have asked. The deputy sheriff part, was that, when did that take place?

So I was a deputy sheriff from 21 to 2022. Okay, so that was taking place during some of your big foot. interactions. Yeah, which I actually talked to a lot of the guys I worked with. And they have some, if you ever want to do part two, I have some other crazy stories I could tell you from those guys. Oh, really? Six with the Skin Walker to UFOs.

I've talked to them all. And they're all pretty open about it. This is like West Virginia. This is in the Rockingham County, Virginia. Oh, yeah. We're definitely setting that up. I can talk for another hour. Yeah, that would be wrong. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, let's, we will definitely set that up because that sounds like it could be very interesting for sure. And actually, that goes for all listeners. If you used to be law enforcement and you have info about stuff that your department used to deal with that sounds like that, contact me, Bigfoot Society, gmail.com. But Will, this has been a very interesting chat. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'll be interested to see if you come up with any more information after you contact your grandparents and that about the cabin area. But any closing thoughts before we head out for the night? If anybody wants to reach out to me, they can find me on Facebook. My name is William Franzos, it's F-R-A-N-Z-O-S-A. And I'd be more than welcome to hearing your stories to helping you out. or if you just want to talk about it, and don't want to share it on the air like this, because I know it's a lot,

and just need to get it off your chest. I'm available to talk. That's great. And the cool thing about Will is that he has that, he's had that face-to-face interaction. He will definitely be able to relate in different ways, for sure, as I have yet to have that. Will, it's good to talk to you.

And it's been a little bit of time coming for us to chat, but I'm glad we were finally able to, chat. Thank you so much for coming on tonight. Definitely. Thank you. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all.

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