Bigfoot Society - Unveiling Tennessee's Cryptid Mysteries: Bigfoot Encounters and Werewolf Springs Legends with Randy Hutchings!
Episode Date: November 6, 2023Join Jeremiah Byron on this gripping episode of "Bigfoot Society" as we sit down with the elusive Randy Hutchings, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher with tales that will make you question the line between... myth and reality. Randy opens up about his transformative experiences in the dense forests of Tennessee, where the whispers of the unknown turn into thunderous revelations. If you're a Bigfoot enthusiast eager for authentic, spine-tingling encounters, this is an episode you cannot afford to miss. Here are ten revelations you'll unearth:The Scared Kid in the Woods: Discover Randy's startling encounter with a creature that was more human-like than beast, shaking his core beliefs.The Family of the Forest: Learn about Randy's respectful approach after realizing he was dealing with a family of creatures, not just a lone entity.The Game Warden's Silence: Uncover the unspoken truths that local authorities keep under wraps about these mysterious beings.Werewolf Springs' Secrets: Dive into the history and eerie tales surrounding Werewolf Springs and its cryptid legends.The 1980s Connection: Find out how a Western Tennessee cryptid hotspot has a connection with one of Jeremiah's favorite movies.The Bigfoot of Van Buren County: Explore the active research areas within a 45-mile radius that Randy and his team have identified.Atticus of the Plateau: Hear about the Bigfoot with a gentlemanly swath of gray, known to the locals as Atticus.The Cryptid Correlation: Delve into the possible connection between cave systems and Bigfoot sightings.Beyond Tennessee: Randy shares his vocalization recordings from an expedition in Northwest Louisiana.Community Chronicles: Learn why it's important to communicate with neighbors when it comes to shared cryptid experiences.Resources:Randy's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ForteanTN/videosTennessee Wildman and Cryptid Con - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094368656070WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzETo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)
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They would dress up the parts of nobles
and knights and in elves
and spend the weekend basically
just socializing and by,
medieval kind of attire. This is on day five of this event. And so I'm like, I'll walk down
there with you. So we start to walk down there and as we're passing the last cabin in what's
called C-section of this site, we hear this snap crack off to the right hand of the side of us.
What I can only describe as a seven-foot hairy thing that is in the process of walking parallel
to us, we turn to look at this thing and it takes a couple steps.
steps in its high grass on the side of the woods, stops, turns the whole top half of itself
and look at us and just stares at us. It had ruddy red hair. You could see the muskleture under
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So let's get on with the show.
All right, Bigfoot Society.
We've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Randy Hutchings tonight.
He is a field investigator based out of Tennessee.
And how's it going today, Randy?
It's going good.
How are you today?
Doing good up here in central Iowa.
It's starting to get cold up here, though.
We're getting down to the 30s and the 20s.
Fingers crossed that it doesn't get too cold this winter,
but we're still having a good time.
How about you guys down there?
It's getting really chilly this weekend, actually.
Does it get really cold down in Tennessee?
It depends because you get the foothills to the Appalachians.
and then you've got the actual appellations.
So, like, parts of them, it gets as cold as parts of Michigan do.
But down in the hot, some of the hollows, some of the basin, like around Nashville,
not so bad, really.
It's very mild by comparison.
Okay.
Randy, you're a field investigator that a lot of people may not have heard of you before.
Because as we had talked before the interview, you can stay off to the side a little bit.
You're not really on the internet a lot.
You're not out in the spotlight.
But I was looking into, was the Wildman conference, and I noticed your name.
I was like, man, that sounds, that's a name I haven't heard before.
And I think actually you had contacted me as well on Facebook Messenger.
I was like, this is really interesting.
I had to talk to this guy.
And we had a little bit of a back and forth.
Some things happened.
But we finally got on.
And how did the Wild Man?
conference go, Randy. It went really well for our first year. It went smooth. The presenters
and the guests seem to have had a really good time. All the attendance that we got to talk to
said they had a really good time. They really loved the lineup that we had with a very eclectic
lineup from one end of the Bigfoot spectrum to the other. I've given a very, very broad view,
overview on the subject. But it was awesome. I heard great things about it. I talked to a few people
that I actually went and they said
it was a great time and of course
you had all the the great guys
and gals from down there you had
I know Helbin Holler guys
and Joe and Jesse
and I think Martin Groves is there
and I think Martin was there all those guys
and I don't want to leave anyone out
but it looks like they always have a good time
and yeah you had some solid lineup
so I hope is that a thing that's going to happen again
you think Randy? We're actually planning the second one
right now as we speak.
Awesome. Oh, man, that is great. It happened in an interesting area that we're going to, we'll get into later in the show.
Montgomery, Montgomery Bell State Park, correct? Yep. We'll chat about that a little bit later. But I would love to start out by how is it that you got into all this, this Bigfoot action to begin with, Randy?
Back that I've been like May 23rd of 1997, my cousin and myself were trekking up to an old abandoned rock quarry that's about three or four miles outside of the town I live in.
And it's about an hour's trek from where you park to actually get up to where this old abandoned rock quarry is.
And there's a box canyon there with a big lake.
And we got up there to this box canyon and had stuck our feet in the water.
just decided we're just going to chill out for a couple hours here on this lake, soak up the sun.
It's late May, late spring.
We weren't there more than five, maybe 10 minutes the most.
And something atop, one of the bluffs off to our right, starts vocalizing at us.
And the only way I can describe the vocalization that was coming off this thing was as if you would put,
a howler monkey and combined it with a raging bull and a moor kind of sound.
And so we both, my cousin and I both look at one another and honestly thinking someone's up
there just messing with us, we start making the sounds back and thinking that maybe a hunter's
come out off the ridge there.
He's trying to have a go at us for whatever reason.
And it goes quiet.
It goes quite about a minute.
We figure whoever it was, they had their fun.
And right about the time that we're about to discount all this,
a boulder, about a bigger round as my torso,
300 pounds at least, comes flying off of that cliffside.
And when I say flying, I don't mean as if like,
I've had people tell me, or you should didn't roll off the cliff.
And it had momentum.
them. It went flying, zooming off this cliff, a good 20, 25 feet, and splashing down in the water
right in front of us, which got our attention. And the first thing my cousin says to me is he looks
over at me. His eyes are just huge. And he's, you'd have to have thumbs to do that. And I'm like,
yeah, I think you would. And we're sitting there perplexed as to what just occurred. Maybe a
minute, two minutes goes by, and the vocalization starts back up again. It's more, more. And I don't,
I have no idea what that means, what those vocalizations really mean, but the message that it felt
like was you need to leave. You're not welcome here. So that's what we did. We ended up leaving,
even though we tricked over, over an hour to get up there, we left. And having grown up here in
Tennessee and the sticks. I've been in a wildlife my whole life. I've heard everything in the woods.
I know what animals sound like out in the woods. I've never heard this sound before.
A lot of my relatives are hunters. So me and my cousin went to them initially and we're just like,
what in the world could this be? And most of them were discounting it. One of them said,
oh, it was probably a cow that got loose. How did he throw a boulder? And he's like, I don't know how he did that.
But so giving us all these discounted BS explanations.
And finally, I went online and found a vocalization on the BFRO website.
And I don't remember which vocalization it was, but it sounded similar to what we heard.
And so I contacted the BFRO, and they got a researcher to get in touch with me.
And I told them everything that happened.
They explained that, yeah, that's classical.
rock-throwing behavior when they want you to leave an area.
And it was through that that I got initially invited to be a BFRO investigator for a little while.
But it was while I was doing the thing for the BFR for about four months,
I met the Tennessee Bigfoot lady, Mary Green.
Have you ever heard of her?
Yeah.
Mary Green was working at the time for the GC Bureau, which is the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research
organization. And it turned out that she only lived about 45 minutes up the road from me.
So she invited me to come up there and visit her, went up there and visit her. And she basically
was what got me into the Bigfoot thing, really. And she was like, we need more people out there
doing this, they know about these things that are willing to go out there and be where they know
they are. And yeah, she got me into the GCBRO back in 1997.
fall of 1997, and I've been doing it.
I did it for them for years.
I've done it on the side for groups like the blue and gray.
I was part of the founding member of the Sasquatch Research Initiative back in the day.
So I've done research like field investigations for several groups here and there, along with just a whole bunch just for myself, especially just in my actual encounter happened, Randy.
23.
Wow.
That's awesome.
When you went up to chat with Mary Green, any interesting things happen when you're up there?
Just the stories that she had should have been there done that.
By the time I even came along, she'd been there done that.
So hearing all that kind of, and it was interesting.
There was a lot of political stuff between all these groups, especially back in those days.
and so the BFRO didn't like anybody talking to her,
and she didn't like it if you were a member of the BFRO,
and so it was just a whole bunch of hullabaloo.
Yep.
Something I've always tried to stay out of is all the drama.
But she knew her stuff, and she told me,
she's like, go out in these areas, look for this, look for that.
And she's like, if you find this and that, stay in those areas
and then start looking for this and looking for that.
And just like she said, we started going out into areas.
One thing we started looking for was seep springs.
She told us to look for seep springs.
Seep springs are like where there's springs.
It's just a water seeping up out of the ground.
Oh, sure, yeah.
And she said those things are crucial.
And the reason being, they're there almost year-round.
Seep springs are.
So even during the worst parts of the year, animals know that stuff's there.
They'll come and they'll get water from it.
they're going to be watching for the animals that are coming there to get water from it.
We use that mentality that she actually told us and found two of our active areas that we still have to this day.
Wow.
So Seap Spring is one of the big things that you look for.
Are there any other big things that you're looking for when you're trying to narrow down maybe a new area?
If we're trying to narrow down a new area, it's trying to find if there's been any generational activity attributed to the area as people,
for years, has it been going back years?
Has people been seeing things? Have people been hearing
things? One thing we, especially
down here in the south,
it looked for haunted forests,
like places where people say that
the woods there are haunted. Why
are they haunted? And when you actually start talking
these people, as why they're haunted, you'll hear
these women, these dead women screaming
in the woods, the ghosts of these women
screaming. And it's like, oh, okay, yeah,
that's what you're hearing, is it?
So we're in.
It's brilliant.
So then after that, then you, you got into the Bigfoot game pretty wild is what it sounds like.
You were into all sorts of groups.
You were, you're helping out, you're investigating.
Were there any other interesting things that you remember over the years?
Maybe did you ever get any closer to any of the creatures?
I did have, I've had personal sightings.
My first sighting, I had four sightings thus far.
All surprisingly, all of them within about 150 acres of each other.
Wow.
I don't know how to explain that.
I have theories, and I've heard people tell me theories,
a lot of it being that the family in that area are relaxed with me
and things like that as to why they all happen in the same little area there.
But my first sighting happened on August 12th of 2011,
and throughout the 2000s, I had a live event venue business that I ran using state parks,
specifically group campsites in state parks that you can rent.
And what we would do is we would basically, if you've ever been to a Renaissance festival or rent fare,
we basically did that on a smaller scale using group campsites.
So we would have like vendors come in from out of state and they would all set up as merchants in these cabins.
And we would have people that would come from all over the place, and then they would dress up the parts of nobles and knights and then elves and all this crazy stuff.
And spend the weekend basically just socializing and buying medieval kind of attire and stuff like that.
And we would have jousting events, stuff like that.
Like I said, like a miniature Renaissance festival.
But other 2000s, I rented a lot of these state parks for these events that we were.
we were having. And it was during one of these events that I had my first sighting,
and I was not, my mind was the furthest away from Bigfoot at the time. I was in the middle of
running this event. And it was about 1 o'clock in the morning. And we had a three-hour field
battle where people basically use these latex weapons and just wallop on each other, just go braveheart
on one another. And done this for three hours and everyone's walk going their own little ways now.
And one of my staff members is, I'm going to run down here to the river. There's a river about
a quarter mile off of sight down a down a path and have some smoke. And I'm going to go to bed.
And we've got to get up and do this all day again tomorrow. This is like a, this is a two week
long event we're running. This is on day five of this event. And so I'm like, I'll walk down there
with you. So we start to walk down there.
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And as we're passing the last cabin in what's called C-section of this site,
we hear this snap crack off to the right hand of side of us.
And I think it's one of our staff members.
coming to join us and turn around.
And there is what I can only describe, man,
as a seven-foot hairy thing that is in the process of walking parallel to us.
We both stop.
And the guy I'm with, he's six foot five.
He's a big dude.
I'm six foot four.
I'm a big guy.
We turn to look at this thing.
And it takes a couple of steps into this high grass on the side of the woods,
stops, turns the whole top half of itself to look.
look at us and
they just stares at us and
I don't know how to explain this other than
if you've been a big guy all your life
there's this level of
I don't know
intimidation that you have around other
other people right smaller guy
smaller people and
that was
what this thing was projecting
towards us
there was absolutely no fear
from this thing's body language
the confidence
It was insane.
It was just like we're not even threats.
And it turned its half and just walked right into the woods.
And it had ruddy red hair like you would see on a really a buck in heat,
but ruddy red hair.
But you could see the musculature under its hair.
It was hair.
It wasn't fur.
You could make out muscle definition.
Even though it was one o'clock in night, we were about,
30 yards from it.
There was enough light coming from the moon that you could still make out muscle definition
under this thing.
Yeah, it turned, walked into the woods, and we both started screaming, like just instinctually
screaming like girls.
And I don't know how to explain it other than just fear.
Just straight up our brains were scrambled.
But we started screaming and running, we started running back.
towards the tavern area and a bunch of people come running over to us because they heard us screaming
and we're asking us what was going on and we're like, we don't, we're not exactly sure.
We didn't want to start throwing that on them.
But yeah, that was the first time that we had, we had a siding or I had a siding.
Do you mind if I ask a few questions?
So that is an amazing encounter.
The best thing I love about is that you weren't out looking for Bigfoot.
No.
It sounds like you're doing some sort of like Renaissance larping event.
Is that right?
That's exactly what we're doing.
Exactly.
Yes.
No way.
You saw Bigfoot during a two week larping event.
Yes, sir, I did.
Was it themed a certain way?
Just high fantasy.
That's amazing.
So it's high fantasy larping.
And then like Bigfoot is like what is going on with all these people in the woods with
these amazing weapons.
And he's probably freaking.
out. This is awesome.
Oh, man. That's honestly one of the things I think that I've actually come to think is
that may be why they were in the area is because we were entertainment.
Oh, absolutely. Did you get a good, did you get a look at the Bigfoot's face at all during
I did not get a good look at the face. I don't know why. I'm not, because I, like I said,
you could make out musculature underneath the hair in the moon lot, but I didn't, I don't know
if it was the distance or just the darkness of the face or what it was.
But when it turned to look like you could feel the heaviness of that thing's looking at us,
it was a feeling I haven't, I haven't had before.
Would you say it was a male individual?
It struck me as that, yes.
And one thing about it too was it was very, I've told people, excuse me,
I've told people
it reminded me more
it had a lot of muscle on it
but it reminded me as if you'd take an NBA player
and then you wrapped that muscle on top of an NBA player
like it was more lean
than it was just brick house
yeah so lean but very muscular
as like a got it okay
it's really interesting
remind me
So how far away again from, you guys were off a little bit away from like the tavern and things like that?
Yeah.
We were at the very last cabin before you get on the trail to go to that little river area.
Okay.
Wow.
Oh, that's awesome.
And from where it was walking too, like I've thought about this a lot because I've had my kids like that slipped in that cabin, the last cabin on the other side.
and from the direction he was walking,
I am convinced he was walking from behind that cabin
where he was peeking in that cabin.
The thing I don't get to this day is that he doesn't,
that he could have easily just turned,
taking a step into the woods because that cabin is so close to the wood line,
and yet he decided to walk parallel and let us hear him.
I don't understand that at all.
The next day were you able to go and double check for tracks
or any evidence?
Okay.
We did. Some of my staff members, we had a staff meeting and we talked about what it happened.
We're like, look, you don't have to believe us. But it was me and here's my staff member that was with it, with us.
Clendo's his name. And basically, because Clendo actually teared up when he was talking about it,
one of the guys was a big skeptic was like, I believe you guys saw something.
Because he's like, I've never seen that big man cry before. But the next morning, some of the staff
ran out there to that to where we saw it.
We told them where we saw it.
And we got,
we walked out there.
And as we were walking out there,
one of them was wide as a ghost.
Because he,
there was a big like 17 and a half inch print just perfect in the grass.
And he was just like,
and you're sure you guys didn't put this out here.
No, man,
we didn't.
Wow.
And so you're trying to run a larping event.
And you've got all this evidence going on.
So you're like,
I can't really like probably just stop everything and start casting this track because I've got to keep stuff going on.
Oh, man.
Again, I wasn't.
This was the last, even though I didn't fail to investigating since the 90s, this was the last thing on my mind.
I was there to do a job and to direct this event, make sure everything went off without a hitch.
So I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second.
did you run through the thinking of maybe it's one of the people here for the LARPing event
that had some kind of like costume or something.
Did that come through your mind for a few seconds?
I've had people ask me that.
They're like, are you sure it wasn't somebody in a costume?
But like it was, you could see it.
You could just see it.
It was a real thing.
Gotcha.
Man, that's wild.
Oh, man.
And that happened in Tennessee?
Yes.
Okay. Van Buren County, Tennessee.
Okay. Gotcha.
Man, that's why.
Did you do research to see if any other sightings have also happened in that area beforehand, etc.?
We had spoke to the game warden guy, the wildlife management officer that's over the place.
And he was actually telling, he had actually shared like, oh, yeah, we've had a couple of people come in over the years and tell us that.
tell us this bigfoot story or that bigfoot story.
And they're like whether or not it's real or not.
But we started sharing stuff with them.
When that happened, we shared that with them.
When other things happened,
because again, like I said,
all the other sightings I've had have happened in about 150 acres of that area.
This is, man.
So here's the thing.
So people are always,
I'm going to get flag for this,
but I don't care.
People are always like Pacific Northwest.
But dude,
from doing five years of interviews,
Tennessee,
the crazy stuff I've ever heard
is coming out of Tennessee,
dude in Kentucky.
Like, it is wild,
especially Tennessee,
East Tennessee.
Oh, my goodness.
You're in for a good time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some of these woods up here are virgin timber.
They've never been logged.
People's,
there may have been some people that come through them
200 years ago
when the pioneers were coming through here,
but nobody goes through them nowadays.
A lot of the hunters don't even go through these areas anymore.
So that was, okay, so did anything else happen during that two weeks span or everyone's just, we got a big foot?
We found out actually, but we found out years later that, because again, that was in 2011, we found out years later after people started finding out about what it happened at the event, there was people that were like, let me tell you what happened when I did this.
Oh, no.
there was an instance where there was a couple, a married couple that came out of their cabin.
One of them was walking to the bathroom, one of the bathhouses, and said that a tree, this is what she put it, this tree starts dancing just like this, starts shaking like this.
And I'm like, so what did you do?
And she goes, I turned around and walked right back into my cabin.
And I'm like, why didn't you say something to somebody?
She's like, what am I supposed to say to somebody that I'm going to the bathroom and a tree's,
starts dancing. She's like, I didn't see what was making it do that. But another girl got
on, I think it was day 11 we were up there. She stopped going to C-section because something
growled at her when she went near a bathhouse. Granted, we don't know what it was to
growled at her, but something growled at her and scared her so badly she refused to go back
to that section anymore. And then a filmmaking buddy of mine, Josh Manning, he was actually
actually getting up back then and going to the Art Institute of Nashville for his college stuff
every morning. And he mentioned that he's, I thought it was maybe you guys signaling that people
were awake. But he said, I would get up out of my cabin. And as I'm going to the bathroom every
morning at about 5.30 in the morning, back behind a, what's called a section of the campsite,
he said you would hear two knocks.
Oh.
And he said that I thought it was you guys signaling to each other that, oh, then I'm awake.
And I'm like, no, man, we were already at bed.
We were asleep by that point.
So we had wood knocks.
We had stuff being shaking at people.
All this stuff that we had no idea all that stuff was going on at the same time.
Oh.
And then we found out later on too from a player that there was a player that said he came out of one
of the cabins one time.
and he said there was a giant man,
what he put it,
was up under the awning of one of the cabins,
and he said he could just see him in silhouette,
but he said this guy was huge,
and he said that I just stood there thinking it was one of us
that we were going to attack him or something,
and he said,
this thing is frozen,
it doesn't move.
And he said,
finally,
I ended up walking off,
and I'm like,
okay,
and he said it never moved.
He just stood there until he was gone.
So there's all this potential other stuff that's happened around the same campsite.
This is my new favorite big foot.
Like this is literally my new favorite one, Randy,
because it's like you have all these people that are not Bigfoot people,
but like experiencing different.
This is so cool, man.
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
Wow.
Have you ever gone back and researched that area again?
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah, heavily.
That's actually where our main research area now.
Oh, yeah.
And that's where I've had my other two, my other three sidings was in that same area.
Not the same to the campsite, but down a trail farther into the woods, but in that area there, yeah.
Oh, man.
So that was 2011.
Was it stuff like off the bat or a few years later that you experienced other things in that area?
Yeah.
Okay.
So I didn't go looking for anything right off the bat.
I told myself that I had rented this place so many times
and run so many events out of this place
that this had to be like a fluke.
This had to be like it just was come,
it was on its way through or something.
There's no way it lived here.
But after I talked to, like I said,
I talked to the Game Warden guy,
and he started talking about,
oh yeah, they told us about this.
And some kids said that Bigfoot destroyed their fort
and all this crazy stuff.
we actually were going to do an event and we decided there was this one trail that we'd never used before
that's just over the little river area that we were going down to that night.
And so we were going to go up this trail.
And as I was going down this trail, I just goofily started knocking on trees.
And we walk almost a mile down this trail.
And I'm knocking on trees like every quarter mile or so.
And finally, I go, I knock.
And about 40, 50 yards, it seems like, in the wood line, there's a response.
And me and the guy I'm with both kind of freeze and go to turn.
And as we're turning on the opposite side of us from where we heard the wood knocks,
there was what I can only describe as what sounded like an exasperated sound,
like the sound of like that.
I have no idea what that sound came out of,
but it sounded like a really big guy,
just like, ugh.
And I've wondered ever since if maybe it was,
I don't know, it was like, oh, God,
you gave us away or something like that, I don't know.
But so we left, we got spooked by the wood knocks.
We left, but we kept coming back, kept wood knocking.
They kept wood knocking back at us.
I've got a whole bunch of wood knocking videos on my YouTube.
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is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. But the second siding I had
was on December the 10th of 2015. And me and another guy named Trevor had trekked back. And there
was a really large tree that had fallen over. And he's like, hey, do you see that? And this is at a pretty
good distance, though, mind you. And I'm like, what are you talking about? So he like, comes over and
literally gets my face, like, right there. And there was something behind this big tree. And you could
see what looked like the head and a hump and its arm was draped over the tree. And we watched
says this thing's arm just does this and goes over the tree and he just disappears.
And it was at about probably 50 yards where we saw this.
And that was about enough that we wanted that day.
So we cut out of the woods.
The third siding I had was on June the 8th of 2016.
And that's the one that changed everything.
That's the one I think we talked about a little bit before when we were.
were back and forth.
That one I was, I had trekked way back up into this area.
I had something approached me earlier that day at a close range and spook me to begin with.
And as I'm trekking through some mountain laurel, a really thick mountain laurel,
I'm having to push it aside, take a step, push it aside, take a step.
And as I'm doing that, I push some aside and about maybe 20 feet from me.
there was a big root ball that is at this angle over here.
And immediately I see this hole that's in the bottom like quarter of this root ball.
And it's June.
This is on June the 8th.
So June's when coyotes have pups.
And so I knew that.
And they love to make dens and stuff like that.
And I just, I say it's a hole because you know how like a hole has depth.
When you look at it, the darkness, that's what the same looks like.
And as I'm staring at this hole, I'm about to get tore up by coyotes.
It moves.
And it's not a hole at all.
And it's like this, when it moves, the only way I can describe the thing that it did was if you've ever had a kid,
I put a kid in time out on a couch, how like a kid will push themselves up against the
couch, like they don't want to, you know, be there and do this. That's what this thing was doing.
And I don't know to this day why I couldn't see it for what it was. I don't know if it was like
I've had Ron Moorhead actually told me at the conference just a couple weeks ago. He's like,
maybe you did know what you were looking at and your brain was just like, no, uh, I don't know what it was.
But I did when it moved into that position, it gave itself away and I could see what it was.
and it was a child.
And it was a black hair, dark-skinned child.
It was not an ape.
It did not look like a gibbon or a chimpanzee.
It looked like a kid.
And the fact that it was looking like it was trying to hide and afraid just elicited something in me.
I've got four kids of my own.
And so I tear three.
this mountain laurel after this, after I realize what I'm looking at, drive all the way home.
It's a 40-minute drive to my house from where this area is.
I get home.
I basically have convinced myself on the drive home that I'm not going to tell anybody that I even had this siding because who's going to believe I saw a little feral kid.
And as soon as I walk in the door, my wife is like, honey, what's wrong?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
What's wrong?
And she's, I can tell something's wrong.
You look tense.
she could just tail automatically.
And so I took her into the side room and we sat down and I started telling her and I just broke down and started crying.
And I don't know, I'm not a crime type, but it was, that changed me.
My wife like literally told us said to me, she said, honey, what did you think was going to happen if you kept doing this?
and I'm like, I thought that I might see something peek out from behind a tree at me,
something like that.
I didn't think I was going to see what tantamount to a scared kid,
but that's what I saw.
So after that, I didn't go up there for about eight days after that
because it spooked me so badly.
And it messed with me too, man.
Like I, there was a part of me that was literally like I need to call someone.
Like I need to someone needs to know that there is a there's a hairy kid out in the wood.
That sounds crazy.
But that's how much it affected me.
Like I lost sleep over this.
So when I finally ended up going back, back up there, it changed my entire approach.
Like I was going up there with this kind of, I'm looking for a big bipedal ape.
And I'm not sure what it is that.
we're looking for now, to be honest.
And still, to this day,
still trying to figure out
what you're looking for.
It sounds like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I imagine you see something like that
and you can easily
hear these stories about
how people have
what they think the creature is in their sights
and they're like, I couldn't pull the trigger
because it was just too real.
There was a human like quality
to what I was seeing.
and I couldn't do it.
And after hearing a story like that,
I totally get it.
That's wild.
And you're saying all this within the same 150...
Roughly, yeah.
Wow.
Area, yes.
Whoa.
And again, I'd...
Why?
And I had a researcher friend of mine
really well known when I'm not going to name drop him.
But basically, he told me that he's like,
they know you.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
And he's, you've been running those events there for years, for years.
They've seen you there.
They see that everyone listens to you because you're the one directing events.
They see that you're the one that everyone's coming to.
You're the one everyone's talking to at some point at these events.
And that they, and they know me.
And he was eluding that like they were introducing themselves almost or letting me know
that's that that that's really messed with me with the juvenile too is that like I got approached
earlier that day like by something they got really close I've got video of that where you can
actually hear it walking through the woods towards me but I've questioned like why did that
thing even let me see it like that it could have scurried around the edge of that root ball
I would have never known it was there and and he's they wanted you to see it like
they almost like they wanted you to know they had a family up there.
And that's the way it's changed.
It definitely has changed me in that regard.
Like when I go up there, it's now I'm dealing with a family.
I respect it like that now.
I can't tell you what they are.
But I can tell you they're enough like us that it's, frankly, it's disturbing.
But.
Man, that's just hearing that.
Yeah.
It affects you.
Randy. Wow. I can't imagine going through what you went through. Yeah, as you said, you've got kids. I have a kid as well. And I think, yeah, that would really make me approach the whole subject a totally different way. Totally different way. Oh, man. And you're still going to that area even to this day? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we still go up there. We
Do we leave them fruit sometimes?
We've had, what's interesting with the game warden in that area,
there's an area where they, when one of the trails near this area,
they've actually shut down the park has.
They don't even, they don't even let anybody go down the park, the trail anymore.
And I asked them, like, why did you just abandon the trail?
And they're like, we just got tired of going out there having to chainsaw all the logs up
from the trees that were falling on the trail.
And that trail is one of the trails we used to get back to our area.
And they've just given up on it because they said that basically chainsaw the logs up.
Very next day, somebody hiker would be like, yeah, there's more trees down and they'd go out there.
And the trees would be 10 foot from where the other trees were.
Wow.
They're like, yeah, we don't want any more humans going near our area.
So we're just going to put trees all over the place over the trails.
That's crazy, man.
Whoa.
That game warren has seen some, man.
Oh, they know more.
Talking to you.
Yeah.
They know more than they let on too, man.
Oh, totally.
So much.
Wow.
That is, man, that is wild.
Tennessee is just this story after story, man, of this stuff going on in that state for sure.
It's interesting what your wife said to.
I've heard that come up a few times, which is,
is like what do you think was going to
I didn't think that's what was going to happen
I didn't yeah
that's but yeah
do you have any
maybe you can't answer this but
have you considered
any time of like long term
field recorder
you mean putting one out there
yeah to see if you can capture audio
over next time we've done that before
oh yeah we've got we caught audio
of something approaching the
The thing, 45 minutes after we stick it out there.
Oh, wow.
Man, that's, that is wild.
Thank you for sharing all that.
Man, that's going to take me a while to process all of that.
I also wanted to chat with you a bit about,
I was reading through your messages.
And you had mentioned Werewolf Springs.
And I've heard other people mention this too.
And so it's primarily a big foot podcast, but other stuff is starting.
I'm starting to branch into other things like some dog man things and et cetera.
And this is going to be fun because I was looking into Werewolf Springs a little bit.
And I was like Montgomery Bell State Park.
Why does that sound familiar?
And we finally get to connect two of my favorite things, cryptids and a certain 19,
80s movie that is near and dear to my heart from my childhood.
Maybe you get what I'm talking about, but I'll tell you in a bit.
But can you share a little bit about what this, what's going on with Werewolf Springs?
I saw that your conference, you were thinking about maybe taking people out there to check it out.
But it sounds like it's got quite the history of some interesting things happening.
Oh yeah, it does.
Yeah, we were actually going to take some people out and the park put up a gate.
they didn't want a bunch of Bigfoot Freakos going out there and messing with the spring.
It was pretty hilarious.
Helbit Haller was going to go out there and do a whole thing.
And so, yeah, we got denied.
But the story of Werewolf Spring goes back to the 1860s.
And the whole premise of the story is that there's two kind of two stories.
There's one where it's two brothers.
There's another where it's a man and one of his workers for his farm.
but either way they were going,
the two brothers one, for instance,
they went to the cemetery,
what's called Hall Cemetery,
and there's a spring about a quarter mile from Hall Cemetery
called Hall Spring.
They walked up to Hall Spring to get something to drink
before going back to the town,
which at the time,
the whole area was called Bluffs,
I'm sorry, was called Burns Station.
It's now just Burns, Tennessee.
But they went to go with some water,
and as they were getting water,
in the story, one of them noticed basically this large, hairy man-monster thing on the other side of
the spring staring at them in the woods. And they both went running and one of the brothers
got caught captured and killed and the other brother didn't. And in that story, that brother
made it back to Byrne Station, told the people what had happened. And there was actually documented
stuff in a newspaper from back in those days where they took a posse out there to haul spring.
and they even staked a goat up out there at Hall Spring,
trying to capture whatever this thing was.
And that story has turned into basically that's what,
that's the seed of the werewolf of Montgomery Bells
and Werewolf Springs.
That's how it gets its name.
And that whole area up there's got Whitehall is the little town next to Burns.
And Whitehall has the Whitehall screamer, the Whitehall Howler,
the Whitehall Whistler.
That whole area has like names.
for a lot of the cryptids in that area.
Oh, wow.
So there's a lot going on.
Is that the Whitehall stuff?
Is that like a dog man or a Bigfoot-type deal?
Or it could be a mixture?
It could be both, honestly.
But most of them, I think the community down there's embraced the dog man thing the last
couple of years.
So that's really where, especially with Werewolf Springs, the park is really embracing that.
So I think the more and more over the years,
as you'll come and see that that whole anything in the white hall area
Montgomery Bell will be dog man,
werewolf related.
Okay, so people can actually,
they can go to this park and they have like dog man stuff or?
They've got it.
They have a,
when we were having the con,
they actually put on and we didn't even know they had it.
They,
on the screens there in the park lobby,
they were playing the legend of werewolf Springs.
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And it's like a, it was a little movie that apparently the park made back like in the 90s.
Oh, yeah.
So they were playing it for us.
And along with the con there, it's pretty neat.
That's awesome.
Okay, so here's, I'll let you know, this is my fun fact about Montgomery Bell.
So there's a movie that I love from the 1980s called Ernest Goes to Camp.
Ernest Goes to Camp was filmed in Montgomery Bell State Park because I've watched YouTube videos about.
So the cabins are all up that are in the movie.
And like you can go supposedly to that park and you can see all the cabins that are in the film.
And I'm an earnest fan outside of big.
I like earnest stuff.
So eventually like I was, it was already my bucket list like I'm going to go to the state park and see where Ernest goes.
was the camp was film.
And then I find out like, it's a total crypted hotspot.
I'm like, this is amazing.
This is the best news I've ever heard.
Yep.
I've actually run events out of that campsite.
Really?
Is it pretty awesome?
It's a beautiful campsite.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Are they earnest?
Are they earnest events?
No, they weren't earnest events.
Oh, that's too bad.
I hear they have an earnest day every year.
Oh, do you?
I don't know about that.
Yeah, they celebrate earnest goes to camp and they watch the film.
and like Ernest goes to camp things.
And my listenership is slowly being like,
and I don't like Ernest Goes to Camp.
Guys, I love Ernest Goes to Camp.
So you're going to have to deal with it.
But so you're super into Big for,
and you're focusing on this one area.
Are there other areas of the state that you've also been involved with your research?
Or you're focusing just mainly on Van Buren County.
Oh, no.
Warren County, Van Buren County, Watt County, Grundy County.
Sequoichi County, most of those counties, we run around in.
We found four other hotspots, active research areas,
in about a 45-mile kind of area near where the one is with the campsop.
And the area of the Cumberland Plateau is really my main area that we research and investigate.
There's an area called Highway 8.
Tennesseans will know what is here.
as, oh, what is it called?
Look at me, I just forgot its name.
Hey, that's all right.
Keep it safe.
Man, just completely gone.
That's all right.
But Highway 8 up on the Kremlin Plateau,
we've spoken to over a dozen families in about a six-mile area
that of all, we were pretty sure is sharing the same Bigfoot.
And the reason that we think they're sharing the same one
as they've described, when they talked about seeing him,
they've described the same individual.
A couple of the different, there's been three houses where he's window peaked.
And what's wild is the people have described that he's got the same gray swath of hair
on the front of his head.
Yeah, and hearing these people talk about this stuff completely,
they have no idea about the other people experiencing this stuff.
And then one of them was talking about, yeah, he had a gentlemanly swath of gray on his forehead.
And we're like, what do you mean gentlemanly?
Like, you know, how you get a swath just right there.
It's pretty wild.
Wow.
That is wild.
Is there any...
They call it.
They name it Atticus.
I love it.
Atticus.
The people in that area.
That's legit, man.
I love that.
That's a great name.
Have you looked into, like, how the area is set up?
Do you think there's anything about the topography or the climate to the area that...
I do.
A lot of the houses.
that have actually had Atticus messing with them.
If you actually go off the,
if you look at the top of the plateau,
it's basically he's just hugging the very top of the plateau.
He's just walking the plateau in all of these houses
where you've got these dips in the plateau in the topography.
He's going in and hitting all these houses along just the edges of this plateau.
And the way the roads go cut across the area,
there's about four or five different roads that cut off the main highway of highway eight
and so what you have is you have all these kind of like islands of roads where these people on
these roads some of these people on the roads may know that stuff's going on but they're only
talking to their neighbors and then a road down they're having the exact same stuff go on
but they don't know because they're just taught they're not talking to their neighbors either
and it's hilarious oh that's hilarious but also
freaky man if you think about it like they could be experiencing bigfoot stuff for years and have
no idea their neighbors are being messed with i guess it's just goes to show you know who your
neighbors are and maybe talk to them a little bit man oh dude that's wild we had two two girls up
there that actually that uh that saw one and broad daylight laying on a boulder i said that it was
looking up with the sun sun was down on it so it looked like
a giant orangutan almost.
And when we were talking to them, we're like, have you talked to your neighbors?
And they're like, oh, our neighbors are old.
They don't ever go outside.
They wouldn't know about any of this stuff happening.
And we had already talked to their neighbors.
And one of their neighbors knew this stuff was going on.
And so it's just in rural communities, if you're having Bigfoot activity, talk to your neighbor.
You may be surprised just how much you guys are sharing.
Absolutely.
have you ever
let's see
and I'm not
being from Iowa I'm not like
the best with Tennessee
geography
sorry about that but
have you ever gone
far into the far
eastern side of the state
and done some yeah
I have some
like the smoking mountain areas
yeah because like I talk to some people
and they're like
it seems like
the further east you get in Tennessee
like there's some kind of weird stuff that goes on over there.
Do you think there's any truth to that or is it you're like it's all over the place in Tennessee?
There's an area in East Tennessee that I've been to several times called Delano.
And the largest bigfoot siding that I've ever had reported in may happen there right next to a Christmas tree farm.
And dude swears up and down if this thing was 12 feet tall.
The only reason I would, I granted that he could just.
judge hot was because for a living, he was one of those guys that goes out and works out on poles,
electric lines and all that. And he actually told me, he's, and I know how much 12 foot is because
an electric pole blah, blah, blah is 15 feet from the ground to the blah. And I think that I really
wonder if they don't get bigger the farther east you go from stories that I've been told.
The area that I live in, we have over 15,000 caves in just about a four-case.
county region. So in a way, I kind of wonder if sometimes when people in this area report them
as being leaner, if that's because of the, like an adaptation actually to the caves that we have.
That seems to be a recurring theme that has been coming up in the last few years is that
maybe there's a correlation between there's that graphic that keeps going around where it's
I think it's like they overlay Bigfoot sightings over like the cave systems in the U.S.
It's a really interesting thing to think about.
I don't know.
I could be.
Yeah.
It's definitely a lot of shelter.
Man, you are a total wealth of information, Randy.
Have you ever gone out of state to investigate us anywhere or is it primarily Tennessee?
I have.
I've been out of state to northwest to.
Louisiana a couple times.
That's the only place.
I've actually went out of state to go look for this stuff, though.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Anything weird happened down in Louisiana?
I got some good vocalizations.
Gotcha.
Man.
I got to get down to Tennessee.
For sure.
I just got it.
That'd be fun.
You get down here.
Come to Montgomery Bell, man.
I'll meet you down there.
We can.
Dude.
I'll show you Werewolf Springs and we can go check out Ernest goes to camp.
And we can go check out Ernest goes to camp and Wehrall Springs.
That's the ultimate.
combination. Randy, this has been a extremely fun chat and chatting with you. And I'm sure
you'll have, I'm sure there's going to be stuff in the future as well. But I know you're a guy
that you keep to your, you're not really out there a lot. But are there ways, I'm sure there's
going to be people that hear this episode. And I just got a feeling they're going to be like,
I got to contact this dude. Are there ways that people can contact?
if they've been having issues, things happen in the same areas that you were talking about,
the same counties, et cetera.
Sure, sure.
They can get hold of me on Facebook.
They can get hold of them.
I can share my email if I don't know if I need to spell it out or Tennisquatch at G-M-
Nice.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
T-E-N-E-S-Q-U-A-T-C-H at gmail.com.
Perfect.
Yeah.
I'm more,
I'm,
we've got a team of six individuals in my,
the town that I live in that go out.
And if we need to do field investigations and all that,
there is cool.
We're down.
And you have a YouTube channel as well,
people can follow?
I do,
but I don't know.
I don't have it offhand.
Okay.
Well,
I'll put it in the link.
It's 40 in Tennessee.
Gotcha.
And you have videos and stuff from different,
different times you've been out research.
So definitely people want to subscribe and follow to that.
But Randy, any closing thoughts before we head out for the night?
Oh, nothing I can think of, man.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate the opportunity.
How can people, lastly, how can people keep up to date with what's going on with the Tennessee
Wildman conference?
Oh, easiest way to do that is just keep track of Tennessee Wildman.
That's our website.
We'll be changing it up.
We'll have any kind of updates on there.
Awesome.
Oh, Randy.
Such fun chat.
Thank you so much for coming on tonight.
And we'll definitely be in touch in the future.
All right, man.
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