Bigfoot Society - Washington’s Triangle of Terror: Adams, Helens, Rainier

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

What happens when a lifelong outdoorsman’s quiet hunting trips turn into decades of terror — stretching from the mountains of Colorado to the shadowed lakes of Washington?In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, we sit down with Alan, a hunter and fisherman who’s spent his life in the wilderness — and who’s seen things he still can’t explain. From the 1974 night his father screamed that “it’s staring at us” outside their Suburban near Salida, to the deafening howls that shook Clear Lake, to the rocks hurled at his feet near Mount Adams — these are encounters that left scars, proof, and fear.We also hear from witnesses across North America — from Ohio to Oregon to British Columbia — whose stories echo the same chilling patterns: heavy footsteps, silent woods, missing apples, and something massive that never quite stays in sight.More than a collection of encounters, this episode is a haunting chronicle of belief, fear, and the thin line between the known and the unknown.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way. you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Alan today. Alan is an outdoorsman, hunter, and a fisherman who I get contacted with, and he's here to talk about some things he's experienced over the years in a few different states. So welcome to the show, Alan. How are you doing today, sir? I'm great. Thank you very much. Absolutely. We were just talking a few minutes before this, and it sounds like in order to start this off, we'll be going back a few years to some experiences you had in Colorado.

Feel free to take us back there and you can take it away, sir. All right. The very first incident, if you would call it that, that I can recall, would be the fall of midfall of 1974. I grew up in central Colorado hunting and fishing with my folks. Hunting was an annual event with my dad. This was before I could drive, but in the fall of 74, late October, we had gone deer hunting outside the town of Salida, Colorado, up near an old, what appeared to be an abandoned quarry.

And we arrived at that location late in the evening, probably around 10 or 11 o'clock at night. Typically, we were up by 4 in the morning to start our hunts on opening day. So my dad found this spot in this quarry, pulled off to the side of the road, and as typical, we would sleep in the back of the suburban and basically hunt from there. So we crawled into the back of the suburban,

got into our sleeping bags. Somewhere in the night, I'm guessing around one in the morning or so, my dad let out this blood-curling scream, and all he would say, all he could say, was that it's staring at us. And as he's screaming that, he flew out of his sleeping bag,

over the seat, into the driver's seat, and had the truck started before I could even wake up and get out of my sleeping bag. He was so scared that his hands were basically locked around the, steering wheel and he drove like a madman until we ended up almost 70 miles away in the little town

of Canyon City, but we had to stop and get gas. By then it was early morning and when he finally got calmed down, got gas back in the truck, he declared that the hunt was over and we went home for the year. So we didn't hunt at all in 74. I never saw anything. I didn't hear anything. It was just him with a scream and I've never heard. My dad's a calm person. He doesn't get panicked about anything and this was so out of character, including the manner in which he drove. He drove like an idiot teenager. So it was so out of character for him, but he would never talk about this particular incident for many years. And I'll get into that as we move forward through time. the following year, fall of 1975, just before the hunting season started, I asked him if we were going to go hunting again.

And he was really reluctant, and all he would say is that, yeah, we'll go hunting, but we're not going back to Salida. So as a hunting season approached, he had chosen the spot on the west side of Pike's Peak up in the mountains at about 8,000, 9,000 feet, heavily timbered. And again, we left after he got home off work on a Friday evening, got up there fairly late, crawled into the back of the truck and went to sleep. The following morning, we got up early around 4 o'clock or so. There was about 18 inches of snow on the ground. Hold out. I remember just being brutally cold.

But the place where he had pulled off the road, there was a line of trees at about 30 yards deep. and then it broke open into a meadow. And the meadow was probably about 300 yards across, but in the center of this metal was another group of trees. So it was almost donut shaped. You have this group of trees in the very center, and then this broad metal all the way around, and then the line of trees again.

So his instructions were, for me, to break through the tree line or wait along the edge of the metal, and just watch for movement. I'm still dark out. Sun has not even started to come up yet. He said he was going to work his way around the far edges of the tree line to the far side of the meadow and then work his way back. And he wanted me to just watch for any deer elk or movement or anything.

We were deer hunting. So I found a stump to sit on and sat there in the dark waiting. And I could hear him trudging through the snow for several minutes as he made his way. around the left side going out towards the far end of the meadow. As I sat there and what eventually turned into silence, as his footsteps and disappeared into the snow and distance, I sat there in the silence, I looked off to the far end of the tree line and into this meadow,

this group of trees in the center of the meadow. And I saw this dark movement. And so my eyes fixed on that, even though it's still fairly dark out, I could see movement and the figure was dark. And I figured probably an elk, maybe a deer. But then my eyes adjusted some and I rationed in my mind that it was too big to be a deer. I continued to watch and I thought maybe a bear because it was big.

And then I rationalized again that no, it's not bear. It could be a bear, but probably not because it's too far into the winter. A bear would be. It's hibernating. now. This is the mind of a 15-year-old. I continued to watch for several minutes, and then eventually this dark figure appeared to stand up

and slowly walk away from me. And all I could see was just basically a silhouette. But I'm thinking in my mind, the bear doesn't stand up and walk away. It's too big for an elk, way too big for a deer or a coyote. I don't know what this is. And to this day, I don't know what I saw. I just know what I saw.

That makes any sense. Fast forward many more years, my dad, again, would never talk about the incident outside of Salaida, Colorado from 1974. In 2009, I moved, I lived in several places all my life, but in 2009, I moved to Washington and state. And that's where I have been ever since. In 2012, at work during a lunch period one day, I happened to be reading online a copy of Field and Stream magazine.

And I believe it was 2012, time frame. In this Field and Stream was an article by a lady and her husband from reports. from Salida, Colorado, and an experience with what they reported as a Bigfoot in an area called Goatge. So, curiously, I began to look on maps, and I found the area called Goattsch near Salida, but also near an abandoned quarry. So that really piqued my interest. I finished reading the article, and it was pretty intriguing the experience that this couple had with what they reported as a Bigfoot. So I copied the article, and I emailed that article to my folks, and I just asked my mom if she would read the article to my dad and ask him if that is what he saw back in 1974. for. So the following weekend, when I did my typical weekend phone call to my folks,

this is a check-in, I asked my mom if she had received the article. She said, yes. I said, did you read it to dad? She said, yes. And I said, what did he say? And she put him on the phone, and he was really quiet for a minute. And I said, dad, what did you think of the article? He said, It's pretty interesting. I said, is that what you saw that year we were hunting? And all he would say was yes. Wouldn't talk about it further. Wouldn't talk about it again.

But that was the only confirmation I've ever had from him. He says that what they described in that article is what he saw staring at him, staring at us through the window of the suburban back in 1974. Fast forward again, another few years. On Father's Day weekend of 2015, myself and two friends from work had decided to go do some fishing up near Yakima, Washington. There's a fairly large lake called Rimrock Lake. And then on the western end of Rimrock is another small lake called Clear Lake. on the west side of Clear Lake is a little day-use area for parking.

And then next to that day-use area, there's a LDS or Latter-day Saint church camp for youth. And then across the little handle of the lake from that is another church camp. I don't recall if it's a Baptist camp or something, but another church camp and a couple of campgrounds. The acoustics in this lake area are pretty phenomenal. where we were in this little peninsula sticking out into Clear Lake, you could clearly hear conversations across the lake at both church camps on either side of us, all the way around the canyon.

You could hear a conversation as normal as what you're probably hearing me now or close to it. So the acoustics were pretty good. We arrived at Clear Lake at about 6.30 in the morning, just as the sun was coming up. And we set out on this little peninsula that sticks out into the lake, spread out a little bit, about 20 yards apart each, started to do our fishing. About 15 to 20 minutes after we got there, another car pulled into the day-use area with a husband and wife and a couple of kids.

They got out of their car, started to unpack whatever they were getting lawn chairs or picnic foods. I have no idea, but we could hear them in the day-use area unpacking their car. At around the same time, you can hear the church camps start coming to life with kids moving around, adults moving around, people going to breakfast in their lodges and things like that. The campgrounds started to wake up. You can hear people mulling around. Conversations starting to take place. At around 7 o'clock, maybe a little before, there was this gruddled, almost a growl, but not quite a scream either. but it was deep and it was a lot of.

It reverberated through your soul. It came down from the canyon somewhere. We never saw anything, but we heard this unbelievable growl. And you can hear, not just us, but you can hear people all the way around the lake asking each other. What the heck is that? A few seconds later, it stops. It went on for about 10 to 15 seconds. It was long, but it stopped.

A couple of minutes after that, there's this. other one. And then a few minutes later, another one. And then pretty soon you can hear almost what was like a response coming from a different part of the canyon. And again, with acoustics the way they were, you couldn't tell exactly where this was me. You could tell these two noises were separate and distinct. They were apart. Our friends and I got together, and we're trying to figure out what this was. And you can hear the husband and wife in a panic, she said, we're leaving, and they packed up their car on their left. People in the church camps are, you can hear them questioning. What is that noise? Pretty soon we can hear

one of the, it sounded like an adult, a male voice, tell all the youth to get inside the lodge. And that camp got definitely quiet. I'm assuming they all went into the lodge. I don't know. But these brows, these howls continued on every few minutes for over two hours. And it was almost, my gut instinct said it was anger. It was like, it was an anger, but I don't know if it was a warning to us, a warning to the other, whatever it was making noise, arguing back and forth between them. I don't know, but it was, there was aggression in the tone, if that makes any sense.

We never did figure out what it was. One of my friends that was fishing with us had grown up outside of Sacramento, California, and used to go to the Sierra's a lot to go fishing. At one point in time, I asked him if he'd ever heard anything like that before. And he said, yes, once up in the Sierra's. but again he never saw anything he just heard a very similar or same sound but didn't know what it was in the fall of 2022 i was off on one of my fishing expeditions and went to a very remote lake in between mount adams and mount st helen's washington this is a higher mountain lake and

it's pretty rough road to get in there there's only one camping spot when you get up there So if there's somebody there, you're not going to camp because there's only one spot. There's barely enough room to turn my truck around me. You get up to the upper end of the road right next to the lake. So I got up to the lake early morning, sun was coming up. I unpacked my camp chair, all my fishing gear, get my line in the water, and then I noticed that the forest is unbelievably quiet. There's nothing going on.

No squirrels, no birds, but I didn't pay much attention to it. The sun came up, my lines in the water, I'm sitting in my camp chair, it's quiet, there's nobody around. The nearest vehicle was probably four to six miles away. The nearest campground is about six miles away. So I'm pretty assured that there is nobody around where I'm at. And as I'm sitting there in my camp chair, just watching my fishing. line, this whoosh comes out of the trees to the right side of me, and a rock lands at my feet,

maybe five feet away. And it's a fairly large rock, a little bigger than a softball. I have no idea where it came from, other than it was from the right side of where I was sitting. And then a few minutes later, I get another rock from the left side over where I'm sitting. Same thing, about softball size, fairly heavy rock, and right. towards my feet. Didn't hear anything, didn't see anything, didn't smell anything. But this rock throwing continued for about a half hour when I finally got the hint. That was probably a warning for me to leave.

So I did. I have wanted to go back to that lake, for one, to satisfy my own curiosity, but to me, I was satisfying a sense of dread or fear. I just, that lake scared me with those. rocks, and I don't know why. But I could never get anybody to go with me. I didn't want to go alone. This last fall, I finally mustered up the courage to go back to that lake. I ended up going alone. Again, got there just before sunrise. Again, there's nobody up there. I had taken a bag of apples with me, hoping to avoid rock throwing, if anything.

I got out of the truck. This time I actually had my truck. I got it turned around and backed in towards the lake. So if anything did happen, I could just jump in the truck and pull straight forward and leave. I took the bag of apples. I had a dozen apples. I set six apples out on each side of the vehicle going out about 30 to 50 yards each time. So after about 100 yards on both sides of the truck, I had these apples strategically placed up in the trees, about six foot off the ground.

and just hoping it was some sort of peace offering. I went back and unpacked my fishing gear, got a line in the water, and again, I noticed there's no breeze, there's no noise, the forest is absolutely silent. There's not even a fish jumping, nothing. I sat there for about an hour with a line in the water, and no fish, no noise, no birds, no rocks. So at about 7.30 or so, I decided that I'm not going to catch any fish here.

I'll go to a different lake. So I went to pack up all my gear, got it loaded in the truck. And curiosity, I walked down the lines and places where I had placed my apples. The first apple on either side of the truck, closest to the truck, were still there. All the other apples had disappeared. But again, I never heard. anything. I never saw anything. I just know that the apples were fairly well off the ground and nowhere to be found. There were no, they hadn't fallen off the trees. They weren't laying

on the ground. They were just gone, except for these two apples closest to the truck. I packed up from that trip and went to a different lake, did my fishing, came home. On September 13th, I went up to an area outside of Walla Walla, Washington. The area is called the Blue Mountains. And I had heard some stories of Bigfoot sightings up there, but I went just for a day trip out of just to get away from things for a while. I'm not expecting to see anything or hear anything or find anything. Just out of a curiosity trip,

I wanted to be in some of the areas where people had claimed to have sightings. I got up to the upper ridge or the upper rim of the Blue Mountains, found a place to pull off, and I had taken a friend of mine from church with me who was curious about these type of incidents. And together, we were walking down a couple of game trails, and I looked down and I happened to spot what appeared to be a human-like footprint,

definitely larger but not massive. And I carried with me a small bat that I used for tree knocking or just other things if needed, but it was just a small bat. It's about two feet long. So I placed the bat down on the ground next to this footprint just to get a photograph and a marker for size. I didn't have any plaster or Paris or anything.

I hadn't expected to find anything. So I took some photos of these footprints. prints. A few yards away, but down the game trail just a little bit, there was another print, but it only had three distinctive toes. I couldn't distinguish five toes, but the toes were really long. I don't know what this print is. I just know that I photographed it because it was odd, but definitely different than the first print that appeared to be more human with five toes, a ball print, a heel print. But again, I don't know what these were.

I didn't have anything to cast them. I was just able to take photographs. So in a nutshell, that's my story. Alan, those are some wild accounts. My goodness, because you've been all over the place, just thinking about everything you just talked about. You are going through some really cool places. The lake that you went to outside of Mount Adams,

and I don't want you to give away any fishing spots or anything. But was that in, there's a lot of interesting things that have happened out there in the years. Do you know if it was near any specific areas, like Tired Junction or Skookum Meadows or Indian Heaven Wilderness or anything I thought? Yeah, I do. I don't mind sharing fishing spots with people. In my years of reading about and becoming interested in reading about business, Bigfoot and that type of phenomenon. I learned that if you were to look at a map, you can draw a pretty good triangle between Rainier, St.

Helens, and Mount Adams. Totally. Up through the middle of that triangle is an area called Indian Haven Wilderness. And within that wilderness area, there's a place called Dark Divide. Dark Divide, I believe, got its name. from the Native Americans, not because of anything spooky, but because of the dark basaltic rock that lines that ridge. To the left side of dark divide runs the Pacific Press Trail. To the east side or right side of the dark divide are several roads that run in through the

Indian Haven Wilderness, Tire Junction, several of the lakes. There's an upper lake. right on the top of the ridge called Coltis Lake, and then Coltis Stream drains down to the north into the area called Coltis Campground. At the time that I first went up towards there, I didn't know that was a area known for sightings or happenings. The lake that I happened to go to was called Comcomely Lake, which is just southeast of Coltis Lake.

Lake, but still, as a crow flies, it's only about a mile, maybe. But Coltis Lake, you can drive up to, it's a rough road, but you can get to, or Comcomley Lake, I'm sorry. Coney Lake you can drive into, but it's a fairly rough road. And again, there's only that one camp spot. So in 2022, I didn't know about Dark Divide, Coltis Lake, Comcomley Lake. I did know about the triangle and sightings all over the triangle area. especially within skooka metals, which is also in that area.

So, yeah, the lake that I went to originally, and again, this last fall is com comely late. That's where the rocks were thrown, and that's where the apples disappeared. Okay, that makes total sense. Just because if you look at it on a map, it's about 15 miles west of Trout Lake, which is extremely active. The whole area is wildly active as... But yeah, that makes sense 100% how you were definitely running into that activity. Were there tracks around where the apples were taken? I looked for tracks, but it's a heavy undergrowth.

There's a lot of pine needles and soft forage material. So I didn't see anything specific, but I did look. And once it dawned on me that most of my apples were gone and they're not laying on the ground, like a squirrel, knocked him off. I just, I got this really uneasy feeling, and that's part of the reason why I left pretty quick. Yeah, I know this lake sounds familiar. I think I've heard or the guys from a Pacific Northwest Bigfoot search

might go into that area too, which they are good guys. I've talked to them a few years ago. Maybe you have to check in with them again. My goodness, when you were down in the Blue Mountains, Were you near where these tracks were, were you near D-Duct Spring at all then? I had not heard of Paul Freeman or Paul Freeman's experiences until about a year ago. No way. Oh, wow. So I became interested, one, because it's fairly close to where I live.

It's only a couple of hour drive. And it caught my curiosity just because of the area. I've been up there several times, but I've never been to that spot. So I did some research on Paul Freeman and the Freeman location. There's a guy called Mike Wonders that did a documentary up there. And I studied his visual as he goes through his documentary. I studied the road that he was on, the camping spot he was in. And I found those exact spots.

So the road that my friend and I pulled off into was the exact spot that Mike Wander's used in his documentary. Found the same stump, the exact parking spot. There's a video out there. I think it's Paul Freeman's family shortly after he died where they gathered at deduct springs, found the same sign that they were sitting underneath, and then, of course, the deduct trail hit. The prints were found at the upper end or, let me think of the direction.

I think of it. to be southeast end of deduct trail. So it goes uphill to the top of the ridge from the deduct spring pool or pond area. But it was at the upper end of that trail is where we found the prince. But yes, that was deduct. That is so cool. There are few people that have taken trips down there to that area this year. The Olympic Project guys went over there, Todd Hill and Chris Spencer.

And then I believe the cliff and Nico went over there. That was a thing for their museum members on Patreon, but that's a pretty cool video. People want to definitely support that organization. But yeah, it's wild to hear that area is still active, but very cool that you got those pictures. And I'll have to definitely, are you okay if I put those in the YouTube version of this so people can see those?

Absolutely. Okay, very cool. I have a couple of other photos. there was also near the footprints, we found a tree that was splintered off at about 14, 15 feet in the air. But the odd thing was not what it just splintered off extremely high, but the splintered off end was sitting on top of the splintered off stump. And it's, I don't know how you get a splintered tree even with winter kill to land on top of itself perfectly. Yeah, that's pretty weird. Not necessarily a tree structure, but it's just something very out of place.

So I have photos that I can send too if you're just. Okay, yeah, I'd love to see those. Were you also seeing things over there where it looks like something had gripped and twisted, broken, the branches? And it's a very weird thing. If you've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. I don't know if they have that going on down there. They might. They probably do.

I don't know. this friend of mine that was with me, both, he's the one that actually told me about Paul Freeman about a year ago. So we went up there out of curiosity, but not expecting to find, see, or hear anything. It was just one of those guy things. We're just yucking it up and went to go check out the Paul Freeman area. So we weren't totally prepared because we weren't looking for broken branches.

We weren't looking for tree structures. We were just, we just wanted to be in the Paul Freeman area. That was cool. And then we found the footprints. And then we found that snapped off tree. So we didn't spend a lot of time looking around any further. That took up most of the day just getting that stuff documented and just driving around looking at different areas. Through your being an outdoorsman, it seems you've really had a lot of cool interactions with Bigfoot areas.

Do you feel that you are focused more on the big foot? big foot side of things or the hunting and fishing or maybe there's a happy medium that's come through both of those together. As you get up in age like I am, I think you get those Alzheimer's kind of thing. So I get focused. When I sit out to go fishing, I just go fishing. I don't look for anything else. When I go for my deer hunt or something, I'm just out to hunt. Not that I do a lot of big footing, but I've been to places out of curiosity, but there's other places like com comely. I don't want to go back alone. I don't, I'm not comfortable in those areas being alone. And maybe it's just I'm an old guy being paranoid or I don't know, but there's a definite

uncomfortable feeling. The time that we were up at Clear Lake outside of Rimrock Lake, the three of us, that was a very spooky encounter. All we heard were the growls, these druttled noises, but like I said, it reverberated through your body. It was just a deep, long howl. Not like the Sierra sounds. This was different. But there were more than one. And the startalization and recognition of the fact that there's more than one was very concerning. Because again, I know that there was aggression in their tone. I don't know what that aggression was. If it were towards each other, they were screaming each other to get out of my territory or hey, let's go down and run these humans off of our lake. I don't know.

And that area is extremely active too because it's right off the Highway 12. Highway 12 is always talked about for so many Bigfoot encounters. Yeah, you get Randall and Packwood. Yeah. But then you've got goat rocks wilderness, which is not, as a crow flies, it's 10 miles from where we were at. I bet those camps have some great stories. They're just super freaked out. Here's side note for another great story.

After that encounter in 2015 with my two friends when we were fishing, my son and I decided to go back up to the LDS church camp because you can rent camp and spots there. And we had assembled bugout bags just to have at home, but we wanted to try our bug out bags for basically a 72-hour kit. We wanted to go try and try out the food and try out the bags and see if the bags were properly stocked and packed. So my boy and I headed up that area for the weekend to go spend a couple of days living off of our bugout bags.

So we used that LDS camp as a base camp. And then the first, we got up there in the evening, the first morning we got up and cooked our breakfast out of the dehydrated foods. And then packed a little nap sack backpack take with us for the day. on each of our bugout bags we each carry a small AR-15 so we strapped on our AR-15s and our backpacks and decided to go hiking for the morning as we headed out from the camp if you look at a map that road that goes past that day camp and that LDS camp goes about another quarter mile or so and then there's a junction off to the left that goes back around to the backside of Rimrock late and then if you continue to continue to and you'd straight on that road is supposed to go up to a campground at the very end, about two, two and a half miles, maybe a little further up that road. In 2015, as we got to that junction, we were on foot, but at that junction, there were concrete barriers blocking off the road that goes up to that campground.

You could only go left and go back around Rimrock Lake. And I thought that's odd. And about that time, a Forest Service vehicle pulled up. And I thought, okay, here's going to be a fight. Here's it. The fish cops are showing up, and they're going to give us a hard time about carrying ARs. So that was the fight that I was expecting. But the ranger rolled down his window and just basic morning chit-chat, hi, how you guys are doing what are you up to?

He didn't say a word about the ARs or the backpacks. And we told him, we're just, we're up here trying out our bugout bags and just going out for a day hike. And then he finally said, he goes, he says, I can see you're armed. I said, yeah, and I thought, okay, here comes the fight. He said, good. He goes because there's a lot of weird blank that goes on up in these backwoods. He said, so make sure you have them at the ready all the time. And then he pulled away and left.

Are you serious, dude? Yes, that's serious. Oh, my goodness. That's nuts. So my boy and I kind of looked at each other and we said, we can go around the left side of the lake, but we know it's over there. There's another church camp, there's campground. So let's go walk this road that's blocked off by these concrete barriers.

So the ranger had told us that the road was blocked off because the campground had been flooded out by the spring floods, and it was just a safety thing. So my boy and I walk this road, and we get all the way up to the campground. There is nothing wrong with the road. There's nothing wrong with the campground. It's just blocked off. So we finished our hike going up way up. beyond that campground towards goat rocks. Didn't see anything or didn't hear anything,

but I thought it very strange in his comments and very strange in the fact that road was blocked. There was nothing wrong up there. Wow. It's crazy how many forestry workers and rangers are starting to contact. I think it's the right time for them to do. Maybe not so much they're coming on air, but they are reaching out.

I think a lot of people are reaching out to share what they've experienced. It's the right time to do it. In 1974, you didn't talk about these things. You'd end up in a straight jacket. And I think that's one of the biggest reasons why my dad would never talk about it, besides the fact that it scared the life out of him. But today, people are coming forward. And it's taken me a long time from 2015 until recently, before I would even

talk about that event, much less 1974. But there's a lot of stuff that goes on at there. There's a lot of people that see things and hear things. Yeah, I totally could see how your dad was just on the one hand not expecting that and being freaked out. That's by itself. But then it just wasn't really talked about a lot back then. I guess you had some documentaries, but that was like what, I mean, seven years after the Patterson Gimlin film. And it's the same. same time period that Ron Moorhead is recording the Sierra sounds. It was just absolutely wild to think about. Correct. Looking back, I don't know, I don't know what my dad saw other than he confirmed that with a Bigfoot story about the same area, he just said, yes, that was what he saw. And so I take

his word for it. I believe he's a man of honor or was. He's passed away now. But I believe him to be a man of honor. And if he said, that's what he saw. Then that's what he saw. I didn't see it. the following year, I know I know what I saw. I just don't know what I saw stand up and walk away from me. I know that my apples disappeared, but I don't know what took them.

I know that three of us were up there fishing along with a lot of other people around that lake and we all heard the same noises. I just don't know what I heard. I know I've seen footprints. I just don't know who or what they go to. The sounds that you heard, around Clear Lake, have you ever heard anything that comes close to that in any media that's

on the internet or any of these documentaries? Is there anything that comes close to it? There are a few that come close, but I didn't write down which ones they were, and I regret that now because I'm going to love to hear them again, but I'd have to go back through. So a lot of sounds probably to find it. Exactly. Ohio, I know the Ohio one, I think it was Ohio one. Oh, yeah. There's some sound that were similar but not exact. There was another one that was really close, but I don't know where it came from or who recorded it.

When you have been out fishing or hunting over the years, have you ever had any other weird things happen that may not necessarily be contributed to Bigfoot or could be something else? I used to live in South America for a couple of years. There was an incident down there with some strange lights, but I wouldn't call it big free really. We were in a small city.

But other than that, I've been over to Mount Adams a couple of times and seen some lights. But, yeah, that's a whole other story. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mount Adams, I believe, is pretty well known for people seeing whatever is going on over their UFOs or UIPs or lights in the sky, who really knows? And the immortal words of that forest ranger, there's a lot of weird, blank that goes on up here. Yeah, absolutely.

For sure. Spending so many years out there and being in these areas, have you ever heard any stories from other people about Bigfoot interactions that have stuck out to you? The friend of mine that went up to Blue Mountains a few weeks ago has had a few in his family, not him directly, but he related some of those family incidents to me. And those were pretty intriguing. The friend of mine that was fishing with me in 2015 when he talked about the sounds that he had

heard and the Sierra's growing up outside of Sacramento was pretty intriguing. But other than that, I'm not really involved in any big footing communities or expos I would like to be. I just haven't ever done that. But I would love to. I would love to be involved with people that talk about that stuff. Absolutely. There are definitely some great gatherings that happen out where you're at out there in Oregon and Washington. There's the one that just happened in Randall.

Washington, that was great. There's the one down Oak Ridge, Oregon. and I go to that's a great one too. I think there's one in Longview, Washington. That one's good too from what I hear. Based on what you've experienced and what you have seen and the evidence so far,

do you have a certain leaning towards what Bigfoot is definition-wise if we're looking at maybe undiscovered ape or some ancestor of human, or maybe something else? My very personal deep belief at this point is not ape, more human, certainly intelligent, and problem solving. And again, you know that as a primates, but not to the point of building nests or tree structures

turning trees upside down, like on Victoria or Prince of Wales Island in British Columbia. Yep. So there's reasoning, there's problem solving. There's, I believe that there's communication. I don't know to what level. But I think it's beyond primate, what we would consider primate. I believe that they are, I guess you would have to classify as undiscovered because we haven't seen a body.

But at the same time, there's enough physical evidence. I believe that in my mind, yeah, they are. are real. I just don't know what they are, but they are real. After my first visit to Comcombe Lake in 2022, the summer of 2023, I was back over in that area fishing some other lakes, and I stopped in at the ranger station in Trout Lake. And the Forest Service worker at the desk at that time was a member of the Yakima Nation. And I just happened to get into a conversation. with her what had happened before. And she got this really shocked

to look on her face. And she said, you don't go up there alone anymore. And then she told me that comely, and especially Coltis Lake, is forbidden for the Yakima to go

up there. It has been for centuries. And I asked her why, and she said that's because that is their home. That's all she would say. That lines up with what other things I've heard about people that have had dealings or interactions with the Yakima tribe. I've heard similar things. I don't think those have really been put on my show.

You might be able to hear those on other shows. But that is extremely interesting that they have not had access to those areas for that long. Just wild. That's always wild stuff. Alan, this has been such a fascinating conversation. you are hitting some really interesting spots. Do you have any future plans on maybe try to continue going to these areas, or what does the future hold for you, do you think?

Immediate future, I can't go this coming weekend, but I currently am planning to go back up to deduct in two weeks just to look for more tracks because this time I have plaster of Paris and some other supplies. and knowing my luck I probably won't find anything. That may have been a once in a lifetime ordeal. I don't know. But I am going to go back to deduct before the snowberries it. Other than that, it's probably a wait till spring time frame

because Mount Adams will be snowed in, Helens will be snowed in, the Blue Mountains will be snowed in. So. We'll definitely keep us in mind if you do experience anything else in the future that you find interesting. to hear about it. You're welcome to reach out. But thank you so much for coming on the show, Alan. It's been a pleasure talking to you today. Thank you very much. I've enjoyed it. Appreciate your time. Hey, Poetic. What's up? Not much. Just talking about some more stories in the woods,

experiences in the woods. I haven't had any actual sightings lately, but I definitely heard like just out hiking not far from where my original sighting was. And I did, hear like the tree knocking noises and I don't know if it's just like acorns falling from trees right now this time a year or two sometimes if a tree like calls to me I'll go over to it and touch it and ask like the tree if is bigfoot in the woods right now or can you tell me where he is and all of a sudden I'll be standing there and I'll start smelling a really weird smell I don't nowhere, like kind of that foul smelling thing that people talk about it with that's associated with the sightings.

And then I'll ask the people that I'm with, like maybe my kids or my partner and be like, do you guys also smell that really weird smell? And nobody else seems to really smell it except for me, like when I'm touching the tree. So I don't know. And then there's like another time, like there's more incidences of how. had where I'm out hiking and I'll hike the same trail like every day for a few years. And this is like when I was living up in Clinton, New Jersey, I used to hike. I think it was called the Kapooling Trail behind the lumber yard in downtown Clinton yard.

There's an old trail like along the river. And so I'd hike the same trail every day at the same time. Before I would go to work, I'd be out there at 8 o'clock in the morning. And so one day I go out and sometimes I just leave my phone at home because it's pretty safe. And I know the area and it's not far from the town. So I felt pretty safe there. So I just start like leaving my phone at home because I want to really connect with nature and not be like distracted by my phone going off. Because I've always liked that.

I like that idea of really immersing in with nature. And so I'm out hiking and I can try to try to try to. by brighten up the light. So I'm out hiking the same trail and then one day I look over in the creek next to the trail and somebody has stacked these stones perfectly in the shape of stonehenge, like exact shape. And I've actually been somebody who studies stonehenge. So I was aware of there's certain inner rings and outer rings and there's like a whole,

Somebody did like a perfect replica of Stonehenge. And so I quickly went back home to go get my phone and get a picture of it because it was the most incredible thing that I had ever, it was a beautiful, and somebody found these perfect size stones, like exactly. It was like a little mini replica. And I go running back home to go get my phone and go tell my husband at the time.

And by the time I came back, it was the, The water had risen because the creek was like low, it was like a low tide so you could see all the stones. And then the water came back up and watched it all before I could get a photo, but it was actually the most incredible thing that I had ever seen. It was really beautiful. So I've had a lot of experiences where I've seen things like that in nature when I'm just out hiking and there's just strange like kind of stones stacked up or like somebody who's

made like basically nature into some kind of form of art. And I've just had that kind of happen. And then every time I go back to go get like my camera or whatever or go tell someone, it's like there's nobody else there to witness it. So I feel like it's just a really beautiful gift from nature, like the nature spirits or I don't know. But it's just really, it's like a really cool experience. That's awesome.

Do you ever have stuff show up around your house? Yeah, I do sometimes like my daughter's saying, oh, it's from the fairies and or the angels, things like that. Yeah. Are you still going up to the Berkshires or is that a one, one time deal? I've had a lot of experiences up there. One of my friends, my good friends is a drummer, like a tribal drummer. And he lives up there on October Mountain. His house backs up. has a he has like several acres on the side of the mountain there i've stayed with him a few times

like after since i have attended that yoga school and he's only like about 10 minutes down the road from where i had that very supernatural experience and then i've slept at his house and i saw weird lights in the sky and he also says that his friend who sometimes stays there she sees a lot of spirits that are like walking through his yard Because supposedly there was like an old highway system that I guess people would walk to get to Boston or something. So she sees like the people still walking and stuff like that. So he claims that yeah, that's just like a normal occurrence there. Like people see things.

And it seems like he just grew up around that area. So he says to me it's just like a normal thing. like I guess he doesn't really think a lot of it, but it really freaked me out, like staying at his house. Because I don't know if you've heard of October Mountain. I think it's well known for hauntings and things like that. I know it's definitely well known for Bigfoot activity. Yeah, I could go up any time and visit him. I stayed there a few times, and then I was just, okay, that's interesting.

And like his house has all these big, giant windows and no blinds or no curtains. because he has no neighbors. And you can just see right out into the stars when you stay at his house. And I'm like, like, dude, doesn't that freak you out? I feel like if spaceship's just going to come down and just take me, it just feels like you're going to just get beamed up right into the sky. Right. When you stay there.

But he's a really eccentric, like, drummer guy. So he guess he's whatever. He's totally into it. Yeah. Thank you for coming up and for sharing some more stories. I appreciate it. Yeah, I definitely, I got a lot of crazy stories. But like I said, the only sighting I actually had was when I was, like I said, eight, nine years old and tried to convince myself that it wasn't really real.

So I don't know. But yeah, I definitely have had a lot of weird things happen like out in nature and all that. But thank you. That's awesome. Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely. Could I put this on the podcast as well? Yeah, you could add more of that to the podcast.

podcast for sure. Yeah, like, now that I've been like telling these stories, it's like more memories keep coming up. And I'm like, oh, there was that time that I saw this. And now that I'm, it's interesting how when you start remembering things, you start more more things keep coming up. And I'm like, oh, there was that other time I was outside. And then this happened. So anyway. Good stuff. Always good to talk to you. Thanks for coming up and hanging out. All right. Yeah, good to talk to you. Thank you for having me. All right. Have a good one. How are you? Great. Are you coming up to share a Bigfoot story tonight? Yeah, I had an encounter with what I believe was Bigfoot in the 1970s. Oh, wow.

So this happened in Hortage County, a little village called Manoway, Ohio. And I was about seven years old, seven or eight years old. And there was a lot of sightings at that time of Bigfoot in that area. And one day I was playing out in the yard and the parents were sitting around. I think we were having a barbecue or something like that. But anyway, the parents were talking about it. It was in the news. It was on the radio.

People were really talking about seeing Bigfoot a lot in Ohio. Okay, I didn't think nothing about it. I was little, I was playing around and everything. A few weeks later, after that happened, I was laying in my bed, getting ready to go to sleep. And I heard this big bang on the side of the house, and it hit the house so hard that it shook my room. And it was very loud, and it scared me.

I had no idea what it was. And my bedroom was higher up off the ground, so my window was the highest point of the house. So the next morning, I still remembered what happened that loud banged on the side of the house and how everything just shook. So I went out there. I went out there around the house to look and see what it was. And there was a huge Bigfoot print on the side of the house.

And it looked like what Bigfoot would he would have kicked the side of the house. Oh my goodness. That is intense. That whole area was going. You're right. Did have a lot of encounters going on in that time period. I think that was that around Minerva too? Yeah. Like the Minerva monster stuff.

Yeah. So the footprint you saw on the side of your house, could you see toes at all? Yes, it had toes. No, you could plainly tell it was no shoe. It was a bare foot. It was like a mud print on this. And it was high up, very high up. and it was very large, very large.

And I don't remember, from what I do remember, it wasn't like our feet, like all five toes. I can't remember exactly what it looked like, but it didn't look uniforms, you know what I'm saying? It just looked different than a human foot. Goodness, were your neighbors having things happen as well? No, I just heard my parents talking about it. I never thought nothing about it.

I just a little kid thought it was interesting. And they were talking about how, like, I think of the sheriff in that town had a couple people had witnessed things. And I just never really thought about it anymore. And two weeks later, I hear the loudest bang on the side of my house in my room on the outside of my room. And it shook the things on the walls, the walls shook. and it was up high like it was too big for a human to have done it but I know what I've seen I know what I what happened at night absolutely whether it was Bigfoot or not I don't know it was something for sure huh I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experienced back then

is this a conversation where I could put it on my Bigfoot podcast yeah sure awesome Hey, thank you so much for coming up and hanging out. I appreciate it. Okay. Have a good night. Thank you for having me. Me too. Good stuff. Good stuff. Hey, Nicole, what's up? Hi, PNW sent me. He just told me to hop on because we've been swapping Bigfoot stories last week or so. And sent me the podcast about the one out in Fall Creek. And I told the story the other night about how I was camping out up near Oak Ridge.

between Fall Creek and Oak Ridge, just out in the mountains. One night, and I went to bed out in my tent, and I've been out in the wilderness, like, all my life, so I know the sounds of, like, animals, footprints and whatever. And I had heard deer in the area a couple hours before I had gone to sleep, and then after I was laying in my tent in the middle of the night, I woke up, I heard, like, footsteps a few feet around my tent, tent like it kept circling, but it wasn't like a bear or deer or anything. It was like two big,

heavy footprints and you can just tell the difference. And it just kept circling my tent and like stopping. And I was by myself and I'm pretty like petite, so I was like scared to death. And at first I was like, is it people out there, but it was only like two feet like I could tell. And so I just like was frozen. I didn't move. Like I was carrying, but again, I'm like a little tiny woman, so it's still not very set comforting. So I just laid there for like hours and it went on for a while like it would circle my tent and then it would stop and I could hear it like breathing and then it would circle again and it went on for a while and then it went away and I was like so scared to even go to my truck or whatever. I have not gone out by myself since then like camping overnight

like never again because it scared the absolute crap out of me. I don't blame you. That That's bonkers. Okay, so I don't know if your friend has told you. I have interviewed almost 50 people just out of Oak Ridge. So is this closer to Fall Creek or closer to Oak Ridge? It was pretty in the middle. I have a lot of places I go out there. I'll hit our dirt road and then just go out and too remote.

But yeah, it was like I've been out there. I grew up out there. So I've had some creepy experiences, but that one was by far. Definitely was not an animal. You just, you know the difference. And it was terrifying. I've never been so hard in the woods ever. Oh my goodness.

That's horrifying. So you weren't like down by lookout point or Ivan Oaks? Like you're out in the woods. Yeah, I was out in the woods, just way out. Like I, I like to go out into like remote areas and explore and find new places or whatever. But yeah, it was terrifying, very terrifying. I haven't gotten out by myself since then. I probably won't.

Were you up by Saddle Blanket Mountain? Yeah, I was out that way, yeah. You were? Okay. That's awesome. Yeah, he told me that you've been doing a lot of interviews for this area, and I started listening to the podcast earlier. I'm going to finish it later for Paul Creek, but wanted to hop on and tell you.

Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Saddle Blanket has a really weird encounter that has a portal and a hairy arm coming out of the port. and almost getting a guy, it's wacky. It's a really wacky area. It's a great-in-tense area out there. It really is.

Like I said, it's definitely not my first creepy encounter I've had out there, but it was definitely my most terrifying, like the closest one I've had to me. Would people talk about Bigfoot stuff growing up in that area? Oh, yeah, definitely. I lived out there for years. I went to Pleasant Hill. I lived in Dexter and all that.

and grew up in Oak Ridge a lot for years. So people, they always told stories. And as a kid, you just thought it was a joke. But growing up out there and then going out in the woods on my own a lot, it is definitely not a joke. It's for real. Absolutely. I don't want to keep you a ton, but did there seem to be an area where a lot of those stories

would be focused on in that area or just all over the place? Just all over the place. That really depends on who you talk to, but definitely, I heard more stories, like the more you go, like, up towards Oak Ridge, get deep into the mountains out there, the more stories you'll hear. Are you talking about going up on, like, high prairie, or you're actually talking about going in the woods that the mountains that are up around Oak Ridge? Honestly, both stories out there.

I love it out there. It's beautiful. It's a nice area, but it's definitely sketchy sometimes. Absolutely, absolutely. Hey, I appreciate you coming up, Nicole. Cole, hey, are you cool if I put this conversation in the podcast I have? Yeah, go ahead, of course. All right, cool.

Awesome. Hey, I'll be out there next July. Have a good one. Thanks. Oh, yeah, I go to the Bigfoot Festival every year. Yes, I was telling him about that. Cool. Okay, thank you.

All right, have a good one. You too. Bye. How's going, bud? Good. Or are you coming up to share an experience that you had? sure let me turn down the game on watching yeah thank you i was going to ask you about that i appreciate that so we were up uh snowboarding in uh whistler canada and we left about midnight heading back home

and the first river that you cross right there there was something in the straightaway on the left hand side a long story short by the time we passed this thing we were doing like five miles an hour So we got to observe it so vividly. And I don't know. The thing behind you, the face structure is kind of the same, a flat nose. The eyes were a little bit more inset. But the mouth, it was more of a chimpanzee mouth. Like it was just almost ear to ear the lips.

They were very thin. They were thin like that. But they just didn't look like him. But the funny thing is, is he saw us coming for a good minute because we came out of the forest and was a straightaway. And he just stood there in front of that sign. And when we pulled over, it took one step and jumped in the river. And this was December 21st, 1996. And when we got out, we walked over to the river.

I don't know why. We were teenagers. And all you heard was like, he was walking up river in the middle of winter snow everywhere you know we saw what was weird about it was you standing in front of that sign we saw two footprints in front of the sign and then one foot one footprint to the to the river and that was it so i think he came down the hill the mountain side because driving up to whistler it's all kind of rock face so i think maybe he climbed down i don't understand but the thing that we saw i touched the bottom of that sign and his head was above that

sign was 11 to 13 foot tall. I mean, it was the biggest thing, the biggest, it's indescribable. I mean, it's like if that guy was to be the guy that I saw and he was holding my hand, I would probably come up to maybe above his pelvis. Wow. That's intense. Whistler, British Columbia, which is kind of in southern British Columbia, right? It's western. So you go up to Vancouver, BC, and then you head west for like an hour. I mean, it is absolutely in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it's just in the middle of the mountains. It's beautiful. It's the most top two most beautiful places I've ever been.

Wow. What color did you say it was again? It was a brownish black. Okay. Gotcha. I don't know. It's human. It was more human than an animal. I mean, but he has guerrilla characteristics. Like his forearms were bigger than his biceps. You could tell how people talk, because I listen to Sasquatch Chronicles. You can tell how it could easily run on all fours.

I don't understand the spider crawl thing, but if they do do spider crawl, his four arms were bigger than his biceps. And his arms and his hands, I mean, his hands could just, just they were so big it's undescribable once again it was undescribable but I could see how maybe they could spider crawl but his shoulder blades were over four four or five feet wide and it's once again we when we passed him there was three of us in the car and we realized what he was doing about 35 miles an hour because in the backseat my friend goes is that a hairy hippie and Chris and I he goes that's a saskatch and I go that's a big foot all at the

same time so we start slowing down and it's frozen it's not looking at us it's kind of looking away so i guess it so the headlights don't go in his eyes or whatever but he didn't look at us but he didn't move and his hands his fingers were webbed out like like you're about to i don't know spirit fingers as a cheerleader or something so they were like this yes except they were down by his side and out like he almost supposing like I'm a tree I'm a tree I'm a tree you don't see me you don't see me you know and I don't know it's just weird why he stood there that's that's the biggest question for me is like why did why did you stand there dude like

why I don't get it and then why we got out of the car we just didn't know what it was right oh my goodness that that is a wild wild sighting So you mentioned that the mouth was very wide. Were you able to see teeth at any time? Nope, he didn't show no teeth. I didn't get to see the eyes. I did see that the eyebrow ridge was kind of like Neanderthalish. I mean, his eyes were kind of inset a little bit, and they were big.

Once again, the thing was 12, 13 foot tall. His head probably, I don't know, foot and a half wide. I mean, it was a big head, like a big head. But it was more. So when I started looking at him, I wanted to see his face. And I'm bending down in the seat to look up at him, but he wouldn't look at me. So I got to, as I drove by, I just scanned him. And we had the high beams on. So we got to see this thing coming up on him at 100 yards at 20 miles an hour, 15, 10. And when we passed it, we were doing five, and we're like, it was frozen. It just didn't move. I mean, it was the weirdest, scariest. It wasn't scary until we got out. out and that's when it I don't know it was just it was weird it didn't it just stood there was it covered with hair everywhere or were there spots that you noticed that there wasn't as much hair okay so he didn't have hair on his palms because here's another weird thing when he was standing there with his palm his hands webbed out his palms were showing

towards us which is another weird little thing so palms kind of pinkish little black, in between a brown and pink. And, you know, just no, like that guy in the background, no hair on the eyes, cheeks, a little bit less on the chin. And yeah, so his whole face didn't have hair on it. But just kind of like that guy in the background. So I know you said that the hands are down by the side, right? But so you were looking at it was like this towards you? like the palms were out towards you.

That's weird. I couldn't tell you. I mean, it is weird. Like, what are you doing, guy? Like, you're the hide-and-seek champion. What, what? And what baffles me is where we came out of was like a straight stretch. So we're coming out of the forest,

and then it dips down into a straight of about a mile. But the cross in that river, and it's the first river that you, come across leaving Whistler. He could see us for a half a mile coming through the woods. I mean, there was no reason if he was afraid of a car or whatever. There was no reason for him to stand there. And we saw him from before we crossed the bridge.

We saw the silhouette in that sign. We're like, oh, is that a guy over there? And this was 96. So we're, you know, the Grateful Dead. We were hippie kids. And we're like, well, we're going to pick him up. We're going to pick him up and take him back to Whistler. because we're only like 20, 30 minutes outside of there.

But on the other side was like 45 minutes to an hour before you came to the next gas station. And we were going to stop and pick him up. And that didn't work out. Right. Oh, my goodness. That's wow. Did his head have a certain shape at all? You know, I, okay.

So I have listened to every single Sasquatch Chronicle. And they talk about this cone head where the, know he had like he was like that guy behind you I mean he had he had a head it wasn't like a cone head but it was just so big I mean it was just so big I don't know and his but his legs I mean one leg was like the size of my body almost like it was just once again it's undescribable and then when I go and I see those trees up in Canada and Alaska there are like two-foot around with the with the roots on them that are like 2,000 pounds and they're driven in the

ground that's the guy that does that absolutely I mean as a human you look at that and you're like how okay so you get a bobcat up there or you get a bulldo you know like you're you're trying to evaluate machinery to do it I don't know wow that's so that's my story that that's an awesome Awesome account. Thank you for sharing it. How long was it before you told someone about what happened afterwards? Every day. Every day.

Cool. Yeah. That's awesome. And, you know, I've been in probably five or six bar fights over it because people call you a liar. Oh, it doesn't. I'm like, bro, do you believe in God? Well, yeah. Have you seen him?

Sorry. Right. Did it Did you have anything weird happen in your life because of it? Maybe that was connected to it, you think? Now, why do you ask that? Well, so some people, okay. No, go ahead.

I can tell you why I ask it, if you want. Okay. So here's why I ask, was it a spiritual intervention? Because he doesn't show himself to everybody. Now, we'll be honest with you. We had bought two pounds of weed. up in Whistler from one of my friends. And three hours later, I got busted at the border

with that weed in the trunk. So I've always asked myself to Sasquatch come out and my grandmother's, I'm Cherokee, my grandmother's full blood Cherokee, little spiritual on the shaman side. And I was like, did that Bigfoot show himself to me to say like turn around and go back to Whistler for a day because there's trouble behind me?

And I got in trouble like three and a half hours later. So I've always asked myself, Was there a connection between seeing him and my trouble? That's funny you asked that. Yeah, it's something I bring up because, you know, I've talked to so many people over the last five years about their experiences. And a lot of times people will say, yeah, after I had that sighting, then stuff started happening either weird stuff around the house or, you know,

I started maybe hearing voices in my head or just, You know, all sorts of weird things. So it's something I ask when I talk to people sometimes. But, man, I appreciate you coming up and sharing your experience. I have a Bigfoot podcast. Is it all right if I use this conversation on it? Yeah, please. Go ahead.

All right. Well, thank you, sir. Thank you. All right. Have a good day. Hey there. How's it going? Good.

How you doing? Doing great. Are you coming up to share a Bigfoot experience? as you fed. I am. So, uh, I've always kind of believed in Bigfoot, but, uh, this would have been right around COVID time. I was doing the flooring in my basement. And my brother was here with me doing it. And we were working until like two in the morning, came outside after we got done, smoking cigarette. I live in a swamp and we actually have Bigfoot. around where I'm at.

And we're talking, smoking, and I hear three loud, like it sounds like someone's building a fort in the woods, in the swamp. And I looked at my brother, I was like, what is out there building something right now? I mean, that's really weird. And 30 seconds later, it happened again, and it was audibly farther away. And this went on, I could hear this for a good two hours.

And then talking with my brother, he was there the day before, and he had the dog in the backyard, his dogs, the nicest German shepherd I've ever met in my life. Something in the woods had him at the fence, just vicious as. hell I googled like what natural animal knocks on something three times like that and only thing I could find was a bigfoot stuff that's the story but I want a one hundred percent no like I was a little sauceed up because I was doing

flooring but my brother was sober and I'm looking at him like is this really happening do you hear this and you could tell and it It was silent when it moved. Like it was literally 15 feet in the woods the first time we heard it. But it moved silently. But it was audibly farther away every time it would knock on whatever, the trees, obviously. But yeah, it was, I'm a believer, 100% now. Oh, absolutely.

And thank you for sharing that. Can you share the general area that that happened in? Like mid-Michigan. Oh, really? Okay. Is anything else weird happening around the property? Owls like to show up a lot. I'll talk with them.

Bard owls. Okay. I thought it was Bigfoot again one night because I'm talking to an owl, just repeating the noises that's making to me. And then it started making like almost monkey noises, flew off into the woods and then a load of other monkey noises. and it's a bunch of bigfoots, but barred owls do that. Exactly, yeah, yeah.

And that's tricky because a lot of people don't know that they can make things that or calls that sound like monkeys, so it's good that you know that. What you got to look out for is if they sound like they're extremely large or sometimes at the end of a call, they will almost like freak out or kind of forget how to make their owl call. It's very strange. So I don't know. Keep an ear out for that, for sure.

There was, around the time it happened, a bunch of dams had broke and there was a lot of flooding. So I don't know if it pushed this thing out of its normal habit. There's literally a gas station down the road that says Bigfoot pizzas. Because apparently this Bigfoot likes to eat pizzas. I don't know. But there's more. here. That is intense. I kind of look that up, but my goodness is thank you for coming up and for sharing that. Is this a account I can put on my Bigfoot podcast that I have? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well,

thank you, man. I appreciate you coming up. You have a good one. You're welcome. Thanks for having me. Jose. How are you? Yes. This Bigfoot sighting happened in camp, almost 30 years ago or a half a 20 years ago or 20 years ago or so I can't remember but I was up in this camp called Medawood Speech Camp and it's up in the northeast of Oregon and when I was in the cabin I was laying down and resting because it was like 12 o'clock and that's usually right after lunch. Well, I looked over to my left out in the window and there's one of those checkered kind of windows. And this giant humanoid creature was staring at me.

And I got a pretty good glimpse. It was a light to dark brown hair and about seven feet tall. and when I was looking at it, I got the idea of taking a picture, but then I forgot I used up all the camera. And I was thinking myself, I'm such a ding-dong for using the camera when I now see one. I hope I make sense. I'm sorry, my tube is hurting me. No, it makes perfect sense. And I think listeners need to realize for a second, a lot of them are going to be like, well, you don't run out of pictures on your phone. Well, this is a different time.

You have disposable cameras, maybe, or you have cameras with a memory card, and you don't have unlimited photos to take, right? Right. It was one of those disposable cameras. And it wasn't much film. However, I was trying to get an eyewitness. my one of my friends, but he was busy talking. So by the time he got there, it was gone already. And that was the first sighting in my life.

I saw one. The second part in the same camp was Friday, Thursday or Friday, totally different Bigfoot this time. I mean, totally different. It was black and white. with a few white hairs on its arm. And I would love to share the pictures, but I think I actually didn't delete them.

You know, I'm not pictures, strawings, sorry. Okay. But it was a black Bigfoot, and it was a lot taller. It reached a window than any regular human would. And as it was going to the checker window, it busted right through the lower right and trying to grab the kid that was next to it

and people were the kids were screaming I was screaming and it ran off and got scared and I didn't know what it looked like oh I knew that it had black skin and hair from the wrist

up and then from the rest down was just bare. Okay. Wow, that's intense. Also 20 years ago for that as well? Yeah, I think 24 years, if I'm remembering or right. Gotcha. And I'm looking up to camp real quick.

It looks like this is over in Weston, Oregon. Yeah. Okay. Or Umatilla County, which is, there's a ton of report. for that county. And I mean, I've talked to people, well, I mean, that's, it's a little west of, of, um, your, um, like, D-Duck Springs and the blue mountains and all that stuff, but not, not extremely in the woods. It's kind of outside of the woods, right? Right. Um, I did hear it scream early in the morning, but then,

then I heard someone was trying to fix a truck so I as a logical person trying to do logically separate the two you know so I won't get too confused and crazy I was like okay that's probably what I heard

the one that busted the window I thought personally that it was one of the cabin leaders or one of the kids. But when I asked that, all I got was no. Have you done any research to see if there have been other sightings or reports at the same camp or in the same area? No, not lately. Gotcha. And, you know, the two sightings that you had, would you say what you saw that day

looked more like something that was like an ape-like creature? or something that was more human-like? I'd say it was more human-like than ape. Kind of like a hybrid of an ape. Okay. Mixed with human. Interesting. Interesting.

And how has this affected you in your life since those two times about 20 years ago? It kind of opened my eyes. Um, like, okay, these things are real. They do exist. What else is out there? And ever since then, I was like, I keep wanting to go back up the mountains. So I can at least try to get a glimpse if I can. But yeah, every once in a while, it pops up in my mind.

Um, I'm not frightened of it. Have you actually gone out looking yourself out in the, out in the woods uh yes back in um 21 when i got my license where where did you go out looking um basically um the same camp okay yeah i went out to ground zero uh so to speak makes sense huh but it's it's extremely interesting hose and thank you for for coming up you know uh my email is big foist to Society at gmail.com. If you ever have anything else happen, please feel free to reach out. And I have a Bigfoot podcast. Would I be able to use this conversation in it?

Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for that. And again, I appreciate you coming up, sir. Okay. I wish I can tell you more, but that's all I got. It's a new area for me, so I appreciate you reporting it. All right. Good stuff. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

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