Bigfoot Society - We All See It Around Stevens Creek

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

Roman reached out to me about the creature he has seen over the years in Edgefield County, South Carolina. Turns out he's not the only one that has seen it. If you live in this area, I would be aware ...of what's in the woods around you.Share your Bigfoot encounter here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:28 See terms at vinmo.me.me. Slash terms. ID verification required to use a Vimmo balance. Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to Roman about his multiple encounters with Bigfoot over the years in the Stevens Creek area of Edgefield County, South Carolina. If you've experienced something similar to what Roman did or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out to me immediately
Starting point is 00:01:52 after this episode. Remember, your encounter could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all. please reach out to me today using the email Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. All right, Bigfoot Society got the privilege of talking to Roman tonight. Roman reached out to me and wanted to share some interesting things that he's encountered over the years. How's it going tonight, Rome? It's going pretty good. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Oh, man. It's been a wild and cold time in Iowa. But I just, I get through every day so I can talk to someone about Bigfoot. It's been 20 below. Yeah, it's pretty cold down here, too. Yeah, we're at like 20 degrees and that's bad enough for me. Oh, man. Hey, I say we get right on into it and we'll see where the conversation leads.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But I'm just going to let you go ahead and take the floor, Roman, and share what you've experienced over the years. Okay. I grew up in H.field County, South Carolina and I lived there my whole life. The day I was born, I'm 51 years old now. I was born. I got two sisters. I was the youngest, two older sisters, and we was raised. We sat down at his dinner table and ate dinner every night, his family.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Went to church every Sunday. My dad was, he was a hard worker. He taught me growing up and get to be right and work hard, and that's just the way it was. I had the best mom and dad, man, you know, every way short. But we grew up, I grew up right there on Stevens Creek. It's Stevens Creek, when you think of a creek, you normally, you think of something small, but Stevens Creek's more of a reservoir. It backs in.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It's a reservoir off the Savannah River. When I say creek, people run bass boats, punching boats in it. They've got boat houses. Our place, my dad's place, it's right there on Marktown Road, and it goes all the way back to Stevens Creek. And we got a, like, a road that goes down on a big hill.
Starting point is 00:03:46 When you get down the bottom of hill, we've got like a big covered dock that's got a roof on it and take a left and go up the creek. And we've got a couple other docks right there. We keep you pretty nice down there. A lot of people come there fishing and stuff. After my actual encounter, my signing started doing some research, listening to other people's stories, started listening to your show,
Starting point is 00:04:05 and listen to other people tell how their encounters went down. And after that, I started thinking back all these things that had happened to me when I was younger, and that's where I like to start out at. Let's go back to when I was 18 years old, everything out here was pretty, you know, there's houses in far in between, across the street, maybe a couple of smaller subdivisions where every house had acreage. But on our side of the road, it's mainly bigger acreage. So you have one person who lives here, it would be 20, 30 acres.
Starting point is 00:04:39 This person lives here 20, 30 acres. So it's pretty spread out. And when you get down to the creek, across the creek was mostly farmland and stuff like that. There still is that way on our side. You've got across the street, now it's got a couple. sudden division and stuff like that. Anyway, I had met a girl over there, and we started dating. And by the time, for about a couple years, and she ended up getting pregnant.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I was 17 when she got pregnant. And she ended up, we had the baby, and it was tough being that young old dad. And I turned 18. My son, I guess he was about six, seven months old. I had been over there at night. Then he was, I think, having trouble sleeping. So I ended up falling asleep. In her bed while we were putting him to sleep, I ended up like 1 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I'm like, I got to go home. I had walked over there that night. So when I left her house, you walked down this long, big hill. You got a couple of houses on the right left. And there's a shorter cut that you can take. And take a right and it goes down this big hill. And it's got real dark. And it's got a couple of graves in the woods, like, from 1800s.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So I'm thinking, man, I said, I ain't walking in that way. I said, I'd rather walk all the way to the Martinown Road and go the long way than walk down that much and spooky ways. Anyway, I get down to Martin Town Road and I take a right and I'm walking up toward my own's parents' house. And I'd hear something off in the woods. And back then I was like an avid deer hunter. I lived for her. I love the deer hunting. And I'm thinking, man, I bet that's a deer coming this way.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So I squat down in the road just trying to lay low thinking the deer might come. up to the road and then walk on out. As I'm sitting there, all of a sudden, I just heard this thing started coming at me, just, I mean, your limbs ripping off trees, limbs snapping and breaking. And I stood up and I'm like, oh my God, that's a bear. So I just took off running a, so that's like a run.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And this thing came up. Instead of coming up to a road, there's like a ditch line, like the power line that runs down the side of the road. And you know how those things are. This thing was just nothing but like Blackberry vines. and briar bushes, and this thing's just plowing through it. I'm running on the highway up on the hill,
Starting point is 00:06:58 and it's down in that ditch, just running just through the briars. I get all in my parents' driveway, which is just as fast as I've ever run in my life. And I stop just for a second. I hear it just still real deep hush. It's breathing. So I take it back off and run up about 100. After I get, my parents got some big brick interest gates on soon as you get there to the driveway. There's about 100 of more yards up to the house from there.
Starting point is 00:07:20 So I took back off again. and open the screen door. I was about trying to shut myself in between the screen door and a regular door and beating on the door, and they finally came to let me in. I'm like, oh, a bear chasing the road today. Anyway, so now that they're knowing what I know now, I don't think that was a bear because I'm listening to the stories
Starting point is 00:07:41 that bear don't normally just go and just start, you know, snatching limbs down off trees, and I don't think they do anyway. But as much records that thing was making. I could have turned back and look when I was running, but I figured if I turned my head while I was trying to run, it would slow me down. I was trying to just make sure I had the only thing I wanted to do is make sure I was running as fast as I could run. But anyway, we're going forward on up to the actual siding.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Anyway, like I said, each property is divided 20, 30 acres, and the next property every 20, 30 acres. And then you had my neighbor to our right-hand side that he lived about halfway up on the right, and then his sister lived all the way at the back. She had a trailer about there on the top of the hill right the way it is. It's pretty flat until you get back to where the creek is. And once you get toward the creek, about 100 yards where you at the creek, it's a big hill that goes downhill. And she lived right there at the top of the hill on the right hand side, you know, on their property.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And her name was Betsy. She was a good old, just a good lady. But a tough old lady, too, man. And anyway, she don't come up to me. She's come up to me a couple times. And she said, Roman, she said, there's a, there's a big foot down there. And I just blew it off. I thought she was a little crazy on that one.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And then a few months later, she came back to me. She said, Roman, she had a 357 bagp in her hand. She said, Roman, there's a big foot down there. She said, I was sleeping last night. And I woke up. She said, it's something walked by my window. And she said, my window is eight feet off the ground. She said, I'm going to go down there.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And she said, I'm going to go there. And she said, I'm going to go there and I'm going to shoot that thing. I said, there's a person. There ain't no Bigfoot down there, you know. And I'd never, ever, not one single time, this whole time with everything going on, never thought Bigfoot, never. I've always believed in Bigfoot, but I didn't think there were any Bigfoot around here. I thought they were all way off somewhere in California, somewhere like that,
Starting point is 00:09:38 and like the National Force and the Big National Force and stuff like that. But anyway, so it's going to the day I had my siding. Then on the creek, I spent a lot of time down there. It's like my salvation there. It's just so beautiful and quiet. That's where I go to think. You know, when I got things in my mind, and also I have a little outcrop down there.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It's got a lot of minerals and a little bit of copper and a little bit of gold in it. So I get in there and I like get there and dig and get my rocks. And there's gemstones. It's all organic. So I get to find all kind of crystals and stuff in rocks. That's just fun for me getting in there and just be in the woods. And there's times. going down there at 1 o'clock in the morning, that's about, and this is like deep woods.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Something about it's swampy down there. So even 1 o'clock in the morning, I get there by myself, no problem. I wasn't scared. I always hear things when things walking in and making these weird noises, but never thought one single time. It was a big foot or anything like that. One afternoon, I'm coming up. I've been there in my hole digging and starting to get. It's not dark yet.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's starting to get dark. I have my buckets and I come on up the hill. When I get about three quarters away up the hill, I stop and I'm taking like a little rest because the bucket of rocks are heavy so I can only get so many yards and then I'd set it down and take a break and get some many yards.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But the last time I sat it down, I'm sitting there for a second and I started smelling. It smelled like a skunk. I'm sitting there looking around and saying, man, here's a skunk right here. I said, man, it's got to be like right here. It smelled like it.
Starting point is 00:11:18 It's like under my feet. That's how strong it was. I'm looking around and about this time I heard wow you know just damn loud
Starting point is 00:11:25 holler I didn't even had to look yet and it was the first thing the pot of my head was the skunk smell Betsy saying
Starting point is 00:11:33 this was big foot down there and I don't know it's somewhere during my lifetime I lost fear I just don't have I just don't have it but I think when I heard that things
Starting point is 00:11:42 holler for the first time I actually just had almost like a smiling smirking my face to me and thinking you got to kid me It was, don't get me wrong. It was, I had the initial shot in the shock of it because it was,
Starting point is 00:11:56 because I'm, I got something right here hollering if you ain't supposed to, it's not, just don't think you'd ever run in anything like that in your life. And it's sitting over there, it's behind, it's behind this holly tree, real thick holly tree. And it's just, I mean, you can see it's just waving its arms and it's, and it's just sitting there just steady just screaming, screaming at me. And I'm thinking somebody is messing with me, you know. But the only thing of that, I don't really hang out to anybody.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I'm real, you know, I have a few friends. I don't really hang out that many people. Most people that I hang out with and know me, you know, wouldn't do anything like that. Plus, everybody knows normally. I always got like a pistol on me, you know, so that'd be dangerous to play a prank like that. I'm still thinking possibility. It's sitting there yelling. And so I figured I'm going to say something funny or stupid as you.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Somebody messing with me. They're going to laugh. So I said, Bigfoot. I said, I ain't got no problem with you. I said, I know this 22 magnum I got right here in my waist probably wouldn't even say you. I said, just to let you know. I said, if you come running at me, I said, I'm going to shift you right in the nuts. And they didn't laugh.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And nobody laughed. It just, as a matter of fact, it dropped down on all fours, and it took off about 40 more yards up behind this cedar tree. And that thing, I come like, when it dropped down and it took off, I've never seen anything in my life as fast as that thing was. I said, no, right then I knew it was definitely not, nobody playing with me. So he got over there behind a cedar tree, and it's sitting there. And I could see, I can never really get a, like a good look at its face or anything
Starting point is 00:13:32 because it's always behind a bush, but I could see it, but just never in detail at one time. It caused the bushes that was staying behind. But it was sitting there and started screaming and yelling, like that. I look around it, and I point toward my truck. I said, I'm going to my truck. My truck was at the top of the hill, and it's like a little circle that we come in that goes up and kind of circle. And I had that point you facing out. It's sitting there and it's steady yelling and raising hell and waving and just throwing his arms and all over the darn place and shaking a tree that it's standing behind.
Starting point is 00:14:09 So I go open my truck door and I shut my door and I don't get, I don't crank it up and go to leave me or anything. Like I said, I wouldn't scared. I just couldn't shock. So I'm just sitting there just looking out the window, just facing the handle stairwell, just kind of take in what was going on. After I got in my truck, it shut up. They didn't say, I didn't hear nothing else. So I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I sat there about 10 minutes, and I'm just thinking about it. And all of a sudden, the whole ass in of my truck, it felt like it dropped down about 18 inches. I just bounced back up. And I looked in my river mirror, and I didn't see anything. And I rolled my window down and looked around. the back of the truck. I didn't see anything, but what got me was, my truck was a 30, it was a Chevrolet, Durhamax, 3,500. And I know I already had a thousand pounds of walks that I go. So for something to be able to push my truck down 8, 10 inches, that's ain't
Starting point is 00:15:07 when it had to weigh 1,000 pounds. Got me, it was just three people could have jumped on back in that truck and not made it squat down two inches. So after it did that, I cranked my truck on up and went ahead and pulled on out of there. But after that encounter, I got to thinking about all these years that everything, a whole bunch of things started making sense to me after that. You knew the crap I went through for three or four years. I lived in a cabin right there on the, at the top of the hill. And when my encounter happened, my house had already burned down.
Starting point is 00:15:41 My house burned down eight years ago. My house had been burned down for a while. counter, actual encounter happened. But while I was living there, man, I'm talking about, it had to be in these softwatches that, and they about drove me insane. But I'm thinking the whole time before my encounter that those were like people messing around in my woods. So I'd be out there. I'm talking about, and I hear these owl calls. I'm thinking there's people making owl calls. And I mean, you can hear people like walking in the woods. PNC Bank brings you. Call of the Wild Money Moves.
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Starting point is 00:17:42 pharmaceutical Potocinole for GSC. And they're doing these alcohols and stuff. And I'm thinking, there's people are trespassing on my place. So night after night, I'm out there. Man, by this time, I got, you know, pissed off. And I'm going to, I just wanted to catch one of these people.
Starting point is 00:17:58 All I want to do was just catch one of them. It's all I wanted to find out why I need hell. They're on my property. So night after night, I get out there. My, I'd be dressing in black and, man, all kind of stuff. And I'd hear them coming up, walking through the woods. and I'd get down there and lay down in the leaves and being for hours and hours. And they always, I could never figure out how they always knew where I was.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I think there's no way they know I'm out here. There's no way. And they were just like there was always one step ahead of me. And I mean, for gears, I mean, you wouldn't believe the time. I mean, it literally drove me crazy trying to catch these people. And one night I had a friend of mine come over and he was going to help me. I said, man, we got to catch these folks. So late that night, I had an old flatbed truck out there at the top of the hill.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And me and him went late under that truck. And I ended up falling asleep. Like 1 o'clock in the morning or so, he nudges me, and he points. I look up out of the tractor sitting on a trailer right there. And I look, then you see the silhouette. People, look like two people standing there. You couldn't really see them in all because it was so dark out there. And you can see your hand in front of your face.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But you look towards skyline. You can see them, like, standing there. next to each other, moving around, walking around out there. So I told my friend, I said, all right, on the counter three. And I had, like, a pumped shotgun. It was like an eight-shot pistol grip, remedying. And I think he had one of my other shotgun, a pump-shot gun. And I didn't want to make you that much noise.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I just wanted to get out and run up. I was going to bust one of the head with the putter the shotgun. I just wanted to get one of them. So we'd jump out. He racks, the shotgun, and these things take off. And at the time, I thought it was people. and I couldn't even believe how fast they took off. And then there's a run around that loop I was talking about
Starting point is 00:19:43 where I was parted at with my counter happened. And there's a goalie on the other side of the driveway. It goes straight down like a four foot drop and then it drops on down to about 12 feet. And we had had an ice storm like a year before that. So this goalie was full of all these tree tops and limbs that had broke off from ice storm. And man, these two cats just took off
Starting point is 00:20:04 just barreling down through the, you hear like them breaking limbs running through the tree limbs I'm thinking man we must have really scared the heck out of them dudes they practically killed herself getting away from us I was thinking but it was always funny to me how fast and how they were able to just to run like that and the picks flat dark and then run down to run through them tree limbs like that I thought I mean they practically killed herself getting away from us
Starting point is 00:20:28 now that I think about it probably wouldn't I'm just glad my buddy did it right that shot in an hour of course if I'd ran up that thing hit it ahead. I would have had kind of a surprise. After my counter, it happened, me and my girlfriend went in there. We was camping there at the creek for a week. I think we could stay there and spend some time. My mom, she passed away a year ago,
Starting point is 00:20:51 and my mom, she was everything to me. I loved her morning thing in this world, but we were real close. I think that's really the only thing I ever, I really did fear was losing, like, somebody you love or like my mother. And after she died, and I've had the, my dad, he's still around. He's 86 years old. And I've had to face the fact that it's going to happen. Right before she died, we was down there camping out out of the creek and there's some touring the creek and going to very out, spending time, my mom.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Anyway, one night we was walking back up the hill and you can hear something walking in the woods out beside us. And it sounded like it was by pitil to you, but it was screaming. It sounded just like a woman's screaming. Like she was, there was a woman. and being just murdered. It's what it sounds like. So I'm thinking, you know, maybe a mountain lion, even though I had already seen the Bigfoot,
Starting point is 00:21:42 I didn't know that big foot's made screams like that before that. But thinking about it now, this thing was breaking limbs and all kind of stuff. Cougar wouldn't do anything like that. And we don't really have that many cougar around here, but Cougar are pretty stealthy animals, I believe. They wouldn't be just breaking limbs and walking that loud in the woods. But it followed us all up with the hill,
Starting point is 00:22:03 and then you get your thought. top of the hill, go up a little bit further. My uncle, he lives right in the middle. And we got a guard. He's got his big garden. And across from that, we got another big garden right there. It would be plant every year. And it always stayed back on the tree line.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's where you couldn't see it. And it would sit there just scream, bloody murder. And, hell, got in the house and went to bed. And all night, that thing was walking around and around the house. It's sitting there screaming like that, you know, half the night. And this went on for a couple weeks to, the point where, you know, we actually put it staying at the creek. We went there and started to stay in my mother's house.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And my mom would come wait me up in the middle of the night. And she'd be like, Roman, she said that thing, that cougar or cat or wherever that thing is. She's out there in the front yard under my window screaming. And I got up, I think she's out there just raising hell. And I went and I was looking at a flashlight and I look, but it would always be just right inside the trees. I could never, I can never see it. So I went and backed up to, we got a bunch of security cameras. So I backed up to security cameras.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And I'm looking for her, maybe a cat or something on there, but at the time. But I remember a couple, there were a couple, I think, places on the tape where you can see like a big, like a dark shadow or something back behind a tree. But I was thinking it sounded like more like a cougar because I didn't, like I said, after listening to like your show and listening to other people's subscriptions talking about it, it sounded like a woman screaming. Now I realize that was probably that big foot there, too. and of course noisy as being walking around and probably had to be that southwest
Starting point is 00:23:39 but after my mom passed I quit going in there for a little bit in the last couple months I've started going back down to the creek back to my hole and I started back digging again about two months ago
Starting point is 00:23:51 it's hard for me to get down there for a while and even go to my mom's house and just even see my dad just because of memories but actually I think it's still down there because the last couple times
Starting point is 00:24:04 I was looking there digging. About the time it starts getting dark, you start hearing the owl, which is start going off. And you could tell them there for them. I used to, I used to turkey hunt with Jackie Bledsoe. He was the four-time world champion turkey caller.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And one of the things you do in a turkey calling contest is an owl call. But an owl was, like, they're real girth, low girthy. That's what they sound like. Ooh-hoo. And I was thinking, even when I was out there in the woods, trying to catch these people, I was like, man, that's the worst owl call I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Them big bucks, but I'm like, absolutely. insane. They were probably selling tickets to come watch me out there crawling around out there like an idiot. That's what I feel like now that I know what I know. But that's most of it. You got anything you want to ask me about that? Roman definitely, I was just letting you go, man. That's some incredible things that you have experienced over the years. You shared a lot of really personal things. And I want to thank you for being open enough to share some really personal things besides the Bigfoot. interactions. I was thinking about the owl calls. So it sounds like what tipped you off is that
Starting point is 00:25:10 the owl call itself was just so ridiculous sounding. Not that it was like really loud. Yeah, you could tell. Yeah, it'd be real bad. Definitely went out. I always thought it as a person. I thought there were people on my place doing these alcohols or let them, they worry, I can never catch them. But now I know that it was probably not a, they probably weren't people. Looking back now, I can, one thing, I'm pretty good in the woods. I can, I could walk very quiet. I used to, when I used to hunt, I used to hunt most of the time. I was stalking.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I could walk like so many feet to stop. And I couldn't figure out by the likes of me. I can never see you what was making all these, walking through the woods, making all these calls. Like I said, now it's probably the cause it wouldn't people. So I feel like I feel like I'm an idiot now, knowing what I know now. After my encounter, knowing that they do alcohols and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. Hindsight is 2020 for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:04 What would you say is the most recent interaction or something that you would attribute to Bigfoot? What's the most recent thing you would say? I would say about two weeks ago when I got down, I was down there digging. And I'm sitting there when I'm in my hole, I'm like I have a hammer and a chisel because, you know, it's an outcroft, a rock outrock. And I'm sitting there hammer and chiseling away. And then I'll start, about time it starts getting dark, you know, you start hearing his eyes. calls. There's a,
Starting point is 00:26:35 where our place is, there's an island that's right across from our place, and the creek goes on both sides of it. And this island's probably about the size of about one and a half football fields. And it's got just huge trees and just real thick. Even during the wintertime, it's thick you can't even see in there. And that's where a lot of,
Starting point is 00:26:54 some of the calls are coming from. Oh, so, yeah. I got my binoculars, and I was looking, trying to look through there a couple. And I saw a couple.
Starting point is 00:27:03 a couple of things in there when I was looking through my binoculars that kind of leads me to think that it's a perfect place nobody ever goes on this island nobody ever goes on his island what kind of things did you notice through the binoculars I was looking through my binoculars and first thing one thing I always one thing one of my hobbies was always just like looking to just see how far I can like look into the woods you can sit there you can when you focus in on your with your vernoculars, you want to find a gap in the trees, and then you want to try to just take your mind away from everything else around, then you want to just try to focus on that one spot going to go into the, you know, I'm talking about, because in order to
Starting point is 00:27:42 focus in on behind it, you have to get out of focus with the main picture to be able to look deeper and deeper. But I saw something, it looked like a, like maybe a head sticking out from behind the tree, but I said, it could just be a limb or bush sticking out the side of the tree also. So I sit here and I just sit there and watch it in the water. and then it moved. Just he's seen it go in toward a tree. I saw, huh?
Starting point is 00:28:04 So that's one thing I looked for. And then after it moved, I started looking down, I went over to the next tree and then I saw it at the next tree right beside it. Okay, and then I sat there and watched it for a while and then it didn't move. And I turned and looked to the right and then I swing back just to see if it would move. I looked away. And then when I had to look back at it, it went there anymore. And then I looked down and I saw it down toward the bottom, lower at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:28:30 for true. So there was definitely some movement going on in there. I can't say yet. It was a soft squites, but I think it is. Very interesting. You mentioned Betsy. Is Betsy still alive? Yeah, she's still alive. She moved after that. Yeah, she moved. And she was down there all the time. And she was for her to come to me and just tell me something like that. She's seen pretty rattled about it. She's pretty upset about it. Betsy's got stories. No question about it. Yeah. I bet she does. I bet she does. I can get older. As a matter of fact, I had talked to her sister-in-law,
Starting point is 00:29:05 ex-sister-in-law, a little day, and she had given you Betsy's number because I'd never talked to Betsy after I had to run in with it. So I wanted to call Betsy and tell her else, you know what? I ran in that thing coming up to hills. So I've been really meaning, I worked so much. I work all the time, like six, seven days a week.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Feel free to pass on my info if you ever get to talk to her. I would love to chat with it. I would love to know a little bit more myself now. I think if I tell her of that, she's probably, she'll probably open up a little bit more after I tell her. I had to say, you know how people are already. I didn't tell too many people about this. First thing, I walked in my dad's house and I wasn't, like I said, I lost my fear factor a long time again. You know, in order for you to be afraid or something, you have to, like, I don't fear dad.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I know what's going to happen. And when's your time, it's your time. So, and I had a really bad rake, like years and years ago. I was in my brand new L-2-50 I was going up Martin Turner I had been mud logging in my Jeep I was doing about 85 mile per hour and I was my girlfriend at the time
Starting point is 00:30:07 I was talking to her and she was too mad at me she kept him hanging up on me so I was sitting there messing my phone and I went on short of road and I hit a concrete covert head on concrete covert I went in every end over 125 yards down in his embatement
Starting point is 00:30:21 I hit eight trees the truck was I mean nothing left of the truck the roof is so flat to stand and it was smashed down it up, see. I mean, the phone, everything in that truck
Starting point is 00:30:30 was just being destroyed. And I was standing there on the hood of that truck when it stopped without a scratch on me and thinking what the hell just happened. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You're a lucky guy. A record driver next day. He was on his hands and he said, you got some kind of purpose. You got some kind of purpose. He said, I've been driving a record
Starting point is 00:30:48 for each other 20 years. You said, your trucks are top to him as much of story vehicles I've ever seen in my life and said, you ain't got a stretch on you. I mean, it was definitely
Starting point is 00:30:57 some divine intervention right down. Yeah, I shouldn't even be alive. I should have been hammered to me. But something, man, for some whatever reason, it would save my life? That's wild, Roman. People were bringing me, I had people bringing me parts of my truck. Really? Autographed. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. Hey, man, would you autograph this for me? I found this tennis ball with interreg. He had me of Simon Tens balls and any part of my truck they could find, laying in the digs down there. That is so weird. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:26 It makes you think of it. about each day for sure. Yeah, definitely. But that just made me realize that when it's your time, it's your time. And right then, it's my time. Absolutely. My thoughts coming out of hill and Bigfoot went to run over there and kill me. But it would have been by the time.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I went out with my boots on. That's been therein sure. That's exactly right. The area you were talking about where you dig for rocks, do you guys have granite in that area? Yeah, we have a whole lot of granite. Really? Yeah, a lot of granite.
Starting point is 00:31:56 A lot of quartz. see. There's several gold mines up the road. You got the dorm mine, which was in McCormick, back in 1800s produced a pretty good bit of gold. I think it was a couple other mines around there. And that outcrop I got, that's happened to just be looking into goalie one day, and I've seen a rock formation opening in the clay. I started digging. And man, it was just like orange and green and blue and just every color of the rainbow in this rock. There's a few people I've talked to, I don't even think on record where they've mentioned
Starting point is 00:32:29 they have hypothesis that massive amount of granite could be related to Bigfoot type things and I think it might even come up in some missing 411 stuff too but just wanted to ask you about that that's very interesting. Let me tell you, I have yeah, there's a granite is
Starting point is 00:32:48 one of the main rocks we have here. We need to drill your whales and stuff out here you have to drift through granite. get to order. But I tell you what, our place out there on the creek, this guy Indian, there's Indian graves.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And let me tell you, I've had some serious, anybody's going to run into it because it was going to be me because I've had some serious encounters with some spirits. And when one time me and my wife, we had like a spirit in our house
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Starting point is 00:34:41 to the way difficult. You mean you saw her. Patrocinole. You mean you saw her. Really? Oh dear.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I sat there and watch and I was trying to grab her and get older and protect her. And from it, it's clodder. All they crossed her back, everything, I couldn't even believe it. But we had a guy who stayed there in our place that helped my dad. And he stayed in the camper on the creek. His name was David. And my dad, he owns a bunch of properties out all over the place and has rental properties. So he helped my dad.
Starting point is 00:35:11 He was like his hand. man and he stayed on a camper and the dad provided him a little place to stay down there and he liked to drink a lot and one night he drank a little too much and I guess he had made falling in the creek and he drowned in creek and anyway years later me and my girl I was taking that at the time we were upstairs I had a big sliding glass door going out onto a balcony out there at my house and I looked out of the glass and I said man there's a David I said he's standing next to some like I could see him and some other Another guy with a long beard, he was real white face.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And David, he's skin, he was green. And she said, yeah, she said, he's waving at you right now. And about the time she said that, he was throwing's hand up waving at me. I said, Dern, you can see him too? She said, yeah. But, you know, I'm playing it today. He's been dead for 15 years. And he's sitting there waving at me.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You see, saw it? No, she said, he's waving at you. But I used to see ghosts in her, all kinds of spirits, all the time down there. And one night, hell, it's been, this had been by eight years ago. we was out there and, man, there was like, my dogs were, like, chasing something all around in the woods. Whatever, it was like hauling up, but my dogs, man, it was just playing with my dogs. And we looked up and this big UFO came up. It was like real bright, just elongated.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's just one solid, just bright, bright light came easing over the trees. And then another one came flying up, like, real fast behind it. Right when it got up to it, it stopped. And then both of them just eased on real slow one right behind the, That was like creepy. And at the same time, my dogs are just, three of them are just being run ragged through the woods just chasing something that they can't catch.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And that was a very odd night right there. I've seen UFOs in broad daylight. I had them fly clean, I mean, clean over my head. At least one of them was like a triangle chase. Broad daylight, it was maybe 300 feet above the top of the trees. And as a matter of fact, we were coming in from town and we was in the truck, and you can see it looked like something dropped out, like almost like a
Starting point is 00:37:15 portal, or whatever, close to where my parents' house was, and we seen it fly back and around, so I said, let's turn it up here where the fields are and go out here to the fields and see if you can see anything. But since we turned out, the road, we saw it coming over the top of the trees, and we stopped the truck right there in the middle of the road and got out, and it flew right over our head. I could tell you every detail on it's like, you can see everything on it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And it flew right over here, it didn't make a noise or nothing. She had her phone trying to record it. She said her reporter was. It went work. Yeah, that was awesome sighting right there. You said that you're in pretty close proximity to some burial grounds? Yeah, there's some Indian barrel ground on my dad's place. I got an area head collection like you don't believe.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I got dickless beads. Yeah. Yeah, I got all kind of stuff. You name it. I got an area it was. How close to the houses are the burial grounds? No, I'd say within maybe 80, 100 yards. My goodness, dude. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. Yeah. So there used to be the main campus right there or by our place. If you look at them out where this would have been seven, eight thousand years ago, these Indians. Oh, there was a main, there was like an encampment type deal. What's that? There was like a main, like a village type deal you're saying? Yeah, up on the flag.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You had to creek down like said the camps would have been up there on the top of the hills. Sure. Any and several would put their camps on the slopes, always on the flats. That's where we find most of the artifacts. So you're definitely in the thick of something there. You've got so much stuff going on in that one area that you're at. And I'm not surprised after finding out that. I wanted to talk a little bit about so that the night when you saw the creature and you yelled at it and then it ran away on all fours.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, it didn't run. All the way, it just went up about 30 yards and got behind another tree. He started yelling some more, yeah. So can you describe, like, what you noticed from the way it was yelling? Was it just a sound or language? It was more just yelling. And it wasn't, and it wasn't all ferocious like a lot of people would say it was. It's just, it just raised it like it was pissed off.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I got to think so maybe it got sprayed by the skunk. I mean, it smelled. That's the way it was acting like it was just like, frustrated today. Because they smelled just like a skunk. I'm talking about. People always try to describe how it smelled
Starting point is 00:39:46 how the odor was, but this thing smelled. If you ever rode by a dead skunk on a road on the highway, no different than that. It was identical to the smell of a dead skunk on a road. Did you notice, or can you remember any weird details about what you saw?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah, it was like a real, it was like a chocolate, it looked like a, more like a chocolate cover colored a dark, real dark brown and black, maybe mixed in a little bit. I could have had mud on it on it, but it was real dark. And it definitely had some long arms. That's one thing you could see, just flapping and flying away. And I can never really tell, I can never really get a good height, guess on it,
Starting point is 00:40:27 because the way to the terrain is, all the hills, you've got gilts and all kind of stuff. So where I was standing, I was in the road coming up, so you got like a little three-foot bank right there. and then it was like over the hump and behind the holly tree right there going and it slopes back down to the right when you get over that little hump and it was behind that big holly tree right there and then after I said that to it I didn't know if it understood me or what about me shooting that down and it where it counts but it's getting a little bit more distance between me it but it ran over behind that caesar tree then but it was sitting there and just
Starting point is 00:40:59 grabbed a hold of it you know and it was like I guess where you stood there were both hands and grabbed a hold of a limb on his side just sitting there and just shaking the tree And when it went the other direction and started that really definitely took any fear. And the way it was yelling too, it wasn't like real fear. I guess this could have been like maybe a juvenile maybe because it didn't have the, it didn't sound like it had the lung capacity like some of the other descriptions, some of what other people say here. It sounded like it didn't have that.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I didn't feel it when it yelled at me. I think one of, I would have to say, the part that really got me was that it ended up following. you up to your truck. Oh, yeah. Now, that's, that's surprised. That really did surprise me. And it hadn't been that creature because there's nothing else I could have, you know, a 3,500 Dura Max, it's got pretty stout suspension on it.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Absolutely. And like I said, I already had a thousand pounds of rocks in the back of it. So it was already compressed pretty good before it jumped on the back of it. Before it, the drop down that far, that's what really got my attention right there. I said, man, that thing is bigger than I thought it was. So that had to be heavy. Oh, yeah. I don't think it jumped on a truck.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I think it, because it went down so fast and came back up so quick, if it would have jumped on it, it would have been went down and then hesitated it came out. I think what it did this week came up and just put his hands on the back of my tailgate because I had a tool body on the body on the back of it. Okay. So it's pretty stout tailgate. There ain't no hard steel, solid still. So I think he just put his hands on the back of the gate and it shoved down on it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And that's what it felt like to me. thinking over the years when it sounds like there's been many times when you've heard things in the woods have there ever been times where there was a sound you heard and it just it confused you and you're like i this sound shouldn't be here right now yeah many times uh we'd be out there and i heard this thing one night making this real weird kind of i don't even know i can describe it it was uh kind of kind of kind of i'm like What in the world is that? It would always do that. It would be in that ditch down there making that noise. And it was real loud, but it was, I've never heard anything making no noise sound like that. I lived out there and I sat countless nights. I love to sit outside at night and just listened to the crickets and the sounds of nature.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Absolutely. And so my whole life has been sitting outside listening. When I hear noises like that, I've never heard before. But at a time, I wouldn't think in Bigfoot. Yeah, exactly. Once you get aware that could be an issue in your area, your outlook kind of changes. Have there ever been any sightings of, I don't know if you've ever heard Dog Man before? Like a creature that kind of has a canine look to it and it's on two legs?
Starting point is 00:43:51 No. I know they probably exist, but I hadn't ever seen one of those. By the stories I've heard, I hope I don't. Well, that's, I'm going to say, count your. self-lucky that they're not in the picture that you know of for sure that's good yeah that i know of yeah yeah yeah back then i was always packing some serious but guns i always had two or three guns on me big shotguns got my wife i had 300 win mag i'd always keep on me when i was down there that's a that's a elephant rifle there that's a big gun i killed my first deer with that gun when i was
Starting point is 00:44:22 like 11 years old and that's a that's bigger than a little bit bigger than this mag and i always felt to say i've been i brought i was there with guns was there's nothing for me when I was like 10 or 11 years old. That's how much times it changed with the kids today. And back when I was kids, I could walk out. So I was 38 study days when I was 10 or 11 years old. Tell my parents I was from target practice and they didn't think nothing about it. These days, man, the kid walks out, the 10-year-old walks out with the gun.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Better tackle us ass. Yeah, it's a little bit different, unfortunately. I'm guessing what was that back in the probably 80s or 90s or? Yeah, I was born in 72. So that had been, yeah, about early 80s. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that was a whole different time for sure. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Roman, you got some weird stuff going on in your area, man. And I don't think it's going to, I don't think it's letting up either, to be honest. No, I'll tell you what. I talked to some other people, too, and they said they got some stuff going on in their place, too. They own a lot of several hundred acres. And they said they found some, like, little TPs and stuff like that on their place. Really? And there's a lot of, there's a whole lot of steel.
Starting point is 00:45:28 There's a lot of national forest. but like bike, they turn it them into bike trails now. So it used to be like game management hunting now. They're like bicycle trails, through the woods. And it's back behind where on our side, man, it's still nothing but people. They own hundreds and hundreds of acres land are not selling it. They don't want it to be developed. And I like it that way.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, myself as well. It's we got a, we can't lose all the land. It doesn't make sense. That's actually something I was going to ask it is have you talk to your neighbors. And it sounds like you're starting to talk to him, which is good. Yeah, now the ones that were, Betsy, I didn't really get along with her brother, which is Tony. He used to want to ask.
Starting point is 00:46:10 He died here just a few months ago, a matter of fact. And his son, his son, now he's got a camper down there. He just moved him in my camper and went in the last six, about six months ago. And he's been standing there a little bit. And I asked him about this. He'd be hearing. He said, yeah, he's up in here. He's, I've been hearing some weird stuff down there.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I said, hey, man, that's a, that's big foot. Oh, man. Yeah, that's not. That doesn't sound like a good time, but you got to do what you got to do. Feel free to, if you're ever talking to anyone, always feel free to pass on my information. I always love talking to people. But, Roman, I'm so glad that you reached out to me. This has been an incredible conversation.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And I'm just blown away by your area. It's been a fun chat. Yeah, thanks for having me. Enjoy your show, man. I said, it's what made me decide to come on around and talk about it. Oh, that's awesome. I love that. My dad told me,
Starting point is 00:47:01 said, we didn't quit smoking that stuff. I said, man, I won't smoke anything, Dad. It's like, the thing I'm crazy as hell.
Starting point is 00:47:08 That's funny. I'll let you go so I don't keep you all night. But dude, keep looking over your shoulder. But it sounds like you've got it under control. Yeah. I'm going to, like I said,
Starting point is 00:47:19 as soon as I find out something. I'll hit you back unless you know what's going on. Fantastic. Good talking to you, Roman. All right, your mind. You have a great night, sir.
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