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Episode Date: October 28, 2025

What happens when a retired battalion fire chief is driving through northern Idaho—and sees something in the river no man can explain? In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, we hear from Todd, a seasoned professional trained to write courtroom-level reports, who shares a firsthand sighting from I-90 near Kellogg, Idaho. A massive, dark figure walked effortlessly through the South Fork of the Coeur d'Alene River... and it wasn’t alone. We also dive into chilling stories from East Texas, Pennsylvania, Utah, and North Carolina—where a Sasquatch carried a deer over its shoulder, mimicked elk calls, and even withstood a 60 mph vehicle strike. You’ll hear from truckers, hunters, campers, and witnesses who know what they saw—and have nothing left to prove. This episode isn’t about blurry photos. It’s about truth.Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet, farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Todd today. Todd is an individual that reached out to me about an encounter. He just had recently in Northern Idaho. Just some background on Todd that he provided. He is a retired Fire Battalion Chief as well. Welcome to the show, Todd. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Thank you.

Thank you for having me, Jeremiah. Absolutely. There was a little bit that you told me before we started recording. I thought was very interesting. So part of your your responsibilities as a Fire Battalion Chief was you're responsible for creating some certain types of documents and reports, correct? That is correct. And actually, starting from before I was a fire captain, responsible for incident reports and the associated incident narratives that are attached to those reports. And I did a lot of them over 30 years. The thing that I found really interesting is that usually these reports that you remember, making were used in legal circumstances, correct?

Absolutely. Yeah, you just never knew when you would be deposed or called to court for something that you notated in a report. So that being said, you're a guy that for years and years, you're constantly, I would imagine, things that you're seeing happen, you're observing, you're constantly a very detailed oriented person. Yes. Absolutely.

Awesome. Awesome. You had something very interesting happen on September 6th of this year. Feel free to take us back to that date, what you experienced when you were along around that area. All right. So buddy of mine and I had left his house that morning. He lives outside of Kettle Falls, Washington, so northeastern Washington. and we were headed ultimately to Crane Lake, Minnesota, over the next couple of days,

and we were meeting up with two other of our friends to go on a canoe trip and the Boundary Water Canoe area. So when we left his house that morning, we had gone to the Cabellas in post-falls, Idaho's to get a few more supplies, and then we headed eastward. So looking at the timeline of when we left his house and when we got to Cabellas and how long we stayed there and so far, So I'm guessing it was around probably between 11 a.m. and noon on that day on September 6th that we were passing through Kellogg, Idaho. And we were on, obviously, eastbound on I-90. And we were driving in the number two lane or the lane closest to the right shoulder. And we're just, I'm probably going 70, 75 miles an hour.

and as we were driving along, we had noticed that there was a river running below the highway. And I have since looked at that up, and that seems to be the south fork of the Cordoise River. And so driving along, talking, looking around, and something caught our attention in the river below us at the same time. So we both looked down, and it was only a few seconds, obviously, as we're driving by.

And as soon it was over, we looked at each other and what was that? What did we just see? And it was pretty remarkable. And I think if it would just been, if I had seen it and my buddy had not, I wouldn't have thought too much about it. But the fact that he saw it and I saw it really grabbed our attention. So we looked down in the water and there was a tall figure with long arms walking through the river.

And from our direction, I would say it was heading southwest, walking back, walking across the river, and it looked to be about a foot of water. And again, from the distance away that we were, that's hard to tell. But it was tall. And like I said, the long arms, the way the arms swayed and the way he walked through the water and just thinking that usually walking through any water, especially if those rocks, it's. slippery and it's not a fast process, but it didn't seem to have any problem or it wasn't walking precariously. It seemed like it was just strolling through the water. So the thing that caught us, other than being tall and long arms, it was completely dark from the top of the head to what we could see down towards the bottom of the legs, meaning no clothes, no fishing vest, no

hats, not carrying a fishing rod or anything like that. So again, we're traveling by, we saw it, and okay, what did you see? What did you see? And we both described the exact same thing. It's like, well, did you see a hat? No, I didn't. A fishing vest, a fishing rod. We went down the whole checklist. Could it have been a bear? And it was like, there's not a chance. It was walking on two legs as natural as you and I would cross the street. So that is, that is about the extent of what we saw. And again, if I had seen it, I probably would have blown it off, but the fact that my friend saw it gave it a little bit more credence.

I have been a fan of the Bigfoot phenomena since I was a little boy, and I mentioned this in my email to you originally, that the mysterious monsters and Legend of Baki Creek and so forth, and then obviously as an adult with the introduction of the Internet to be able to find and look at things. I have been much more interested in the subject as I've gotten older. So having said that, I went on the BFRO database and I couldn't find anything specific to Kellogg, Idaho, nor did I see anything recent or relevant on the Bigfoot mapping project.

But on fast forward, almost two weeks later, I am driving home to Southern California after I dropped my friend off at his house of Washington, and I was listening to podcasts, and I came across your episode 631, which was, I believe, Sasquatch stole our elk, which is based out of Kellogg, Idaho. So that is what prompted me to contact you,

and just to think maybe I have another piece of the puzzle to Bigfoot in Idaho. That's fantastic. And thank you for bringing that episode up because I myself am working on a siting map based on my episodes. That's on my website, Bigfoot Societypodcast.com. I haven't gone through all the episodes and I actually haven't gone back in time far enough to get that episode on the map. So I'm glad that you were able to find it and bring that up. That's a pretty interesting one for sure.

a few questions for you about that sighting that you had. Were there any cars pulled over in that area, people watching, things like that? No. And I don't know if anyone pulled over after us. And to this day, I even joked with my friend. I said, if we did that over again, I would have had you pulled over and we would have backed up on the right shoulder

or I would have ran back with my phone and taken some pictures. gotten a better look at it. Absolutely. That's one of those situations where it's hindsight is 20-20 for sure. I know you only saw it for a very short amount of time because you're driving down the road, 75 miles an hour and you both see it for just a second or two. During that time, though, I have some questions. Did you notice how it was built at all? So it did not, and again, so after I sent this report to you, I had actually sent it to my buddy

and he said that's exactly what I saw. Tall, but I couldn't say how tall based on our vantage point. Whether it was six or seven feet, it just seemed tall to both of us. And again, the long arms and the way they were moving. So not a great deal of detail. And it didn't seem bulky. I couldn't say, oh, it was four feet wide or anything like that. It just seemed like a tall figure with long arms strolling through the wall.

water. That makes sense. Were you able to see the shape of its head at all? No. We saw the its head obviously, but I couldn't say that it was cone shape or anything like that. I just, again, it was too quick of an encounter. And again, I don't even know what it was. It's just by process of elimination between my friend and I, it just didn't seem like it was a person. It didn't seem like it was a bear. Definitely, it was on two legs so that wasn't an elk or a cow or anything like that. You've mentioned a few times that the arms were very long. Were they

long enough so that they were down in the water or were they just above the water line? So I would say that they were just maybe towards mid-thigh. And so I was trying to be. I was trying to be. I was trained in water rescue and did that for most of my career. So I am pretty familiar with water crossings and moving water and so forth and how I would walk across water. It would constantly be mindful of every step and anything that you might slip on or any snags, any tripping hazards in the water and so forth. But it seemed like the figure was just strolling. And again, I had mentioned in my initial account, it seems like its palms were down in the sense that its thumbs were by its side as it swung its arms as it walked, whereas you and I maybe

would have walked through there very precariously and cautiously with our arms. Maybe I don't think I would be swinging my arms in that situation. I think my arms might have been out in front of me just to make sure that I didn't stumble or if I did I could catch myself hopefully. Did you get an estimate of how far away it was from you as you drove by? So I can only estimate on that and I seems like the water was approximately 30 feet below the deck of the highway. And then so based on that, I'd say and again, as a retired firefighter, I can base measurements based on a 50-foot section of fire hose. I would say it was probably 100 feet away, two sticks of hose.

Not too far away. What was the conversation like after you and your buddy kept on driving? When we looked at each other, our eyes were both as big as silver dollars. And like I said, what was that? What did we just see? And so, again, we went down the list. Did you see this? Oh, I saw this. Okay, yeah, I saw that too. And then I actually texted my, our family has a group text, and I said, hey, I think my buddy and I just saw Bigfoot. And then another

buddy of mine who, and I mentioned in my initial email to you that I had gone to the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot conference two years ago, and another buddy of mine went with me. And so I texted him, and I don't know what I saw. I listed everything like I listed in the email of the account, and I don't know what else it could be. It's one of those quick, quick sightings that definitely sticks with you. After you, let's say you get over, so you made it all the way over to Minnesota, I'm guessing.

Okay. Sometimes when people have encounters or they have sightings, they're affected in really weird ways. Was there anything out of the ordinary that, happened in the days after that sighting, like any dreams or anything weird like that that came up? No, none whatsoever. We both thought it was cool. And again, I go camping in the eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains in California.

I've been on these remote canoe trips to the boundary waters in Minnesota five times now. So I always thought if I ever did have an encounter, it would be while camping in the Sierra's or while on a canoe trip in Minnesota, but that wasn't the case apparently. Yeah, and that is the weird thing because both of those areas are, I would say the Sierra is extremely active. I live in the Midwest. Boundary waters, yeah, I've gotten reports from there as well. It's wild up there. But to have the sighting happen when you're driving along the river, it's pretty cool, pretty cool, but definitely unexpected. Todd, and just I appreciate you spending some time talking to me about it.

It's one of those where, you know, as you said, other stuff has happened in Kellogg. So it'll be cool to be able to put something else into the area. Hopefully some people listening to this will also come forward if they've had things happen. But yeah, thank you for spending some time with me. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything about the encounter that you had happened. Yeah, I can't add any more. And again, I just hope it adds another piece to the puzzle. And maybe someone else who was driving by that morning saw something that they were unsure of.

Or like you said, maybe there's people that live in and around Kellogg that might have something else to add. So I appreciate you listening to me. And I look forward to hearing more of your episodes. Fantastic. Thanks so much for coming on, Todd. I do appreciate it. All right. Take care.

Jeremiah. How's it going there? How you doing? Good, good. I saw your comment. You have a few things to share tonight? Yeah, I've actually seen him twice. The better story is East Texas, so I'll give you that one. I was 16 at the time, and I was hanging out with my sister's boyfriend and his brother. And they decided that we were all going to have a sleepover at their place and they lived in East Texas. So we're driving back to their place. They're like an hour away from where we lived in Azel, which also was out in the country a little bit. And as we're driving, my friend's brother, my sister's boyfriend, he was driving. He slows down. And he's pointing out a bear that's off to the side of the road. Looks like it's got a deer. This sucker

stood up and it was not a bear. He was huge, probably eight foot tall at least. At this point, we're probably maybe 20 feet away from it. It bent down, grabbed the back legs of the deer, threw it over its shoulder, walked caddy corner in front of us from, so from 20 feet down to 15 feet to this gully that was on the side of the road threw the deer down snarled at us and he booked it

he just hit the gas we peeled out we were on a dirt road going back to a trailer park he peeled that thing peeled out got us to the trailer and his was one of the first trailers that was off the road so as we're getting out of the car

he basically grabs us, throws us into the trailer, he gets his gun, and he's sitting there pointing it out the door shaking. Because you could literally see where we were from his trailer. So he thought the sucker was going to come after us or something. He didn't. It just grabbed the deer and went off into the woods. But let me tell you, I've heard a lot of Bigfoot stories, and it just sets you on a path for the rest of your.

life. Once you've seen one, you really need to almost see it again to validate that your, to use yourself, that it was real. What I will say is the picture behind you is a very good interpretation, but if you can think of an American Indian and their facial structures, that's what it looked like. He had a very wide mouth. The teeth, when he snarled, just looked like human teeth. He had no fangs or anything like that.

His skin was a grayish complexion. But what the nose and everything, my initial thought was he looked like a huge type of, like American Indian type face. You know what I mean? He didn't look like a monkey is what I'm trying to say. Absolutely. Which is what they tell you a lot, oh, it's just another eight.

Now this was human, humanoid. And that's what always stuck with that in his eyes. So that was, that's always, it set me on a quest. I go camping once a year, different spots to try to see if I can find them. I got the opportunity when I moved up to PA, Pennsylvania, to go out to Michanak, State Park. Yep, yep. I've heard about that one on the pike. You heard of that one? Yeah, I took a report. My son and one of his friends camping, and we found it was really great. And I went there like three, four years in a row.

One year we had with other campers, there was, their horses got let loose and all that guys. There's some crazy stuff went on that weekend, but no visuals. Footprints we found, all that kind of stuff. And then the last time I went with my son and his friends, friend, we saw, we were going down one of the RV off-road vehicles paths they have out there, is up on top of the mountain. And probably, I want to say honestly, about 40, 50 feet in front of us. I thought it was the brown bear at first because there's that little incline on the, when you're walking on a path, you're not sure of the bend there, you know what I mean,

on the horizon. And as we got closer, it literally just stood the path. and I was very good at looking at where it was the tree branches that were hanging down, so I could get an idea of how high, how tall it was. And it was pretty tall. So the time we got up there, and as we passed it, it had went off the side. So we thought it was safe to go ahead and go forward back to our camp. And it was starting to get dark, so we were getting a little iffy.

So we started walking a little bit faster and stuff and talking louder in case it was a bear. and we turned around and it was behind us right on the path. And we basically, thanks to my son's friend, we all got freaked out and we just bolted. And we were like not that far from camp at that point. So we got back to the camp. And my son's friend was like never again. I'm not coming ever again. He thought it was a joke.

And this sucker was big. I can't say, I know the tree branch looked anywhere from 8 to 9 feet, but I couldn't believe how tall it must have been for us to be able to see it. But yeah, so I've considered myself quite lucky. I've seen him twice. And I look at it as a tribe. Absolutely. You saw him in Pennsylvania as well then?

Yes. Wow. I was 16 the first time and I was in my 50s the second time. Okay. And I've gone camping at least once. year I do a specific Bigfoot thing and I've found tracks and I found tree things in the woods and stuff that are unusual or what I consider nests. I got one picture of this looks like a nest that they would have put their babies in or something. It's really cool. Thank you for sharing both

of those stories. So the two different places you had sightings, did they both look similar or did they look different in the different place? The first one I got a, that was you can't get close. If you I got any closer, I probably would have been ripped apart. That first one, I saw the face, I saw the details. The second one was a little further away. I tell you, what you can't miss on both of them is that scent, the same smell. Because it was summertime the first time. We had the windows down.

And it's that skunky wet dog smell. But that was just like, I think the second time it smelled more skunk. but it was it's just the size it's just this overwhelming I didn't see the face though I didn't see the face on the second one sure

it's too far away being out details the first one you mentioned the eyes did the eyes have any whites to them or were they all one of color no they had whites to it okay

that's what I'm saying it was human white I don't buy the not the one I saw I don't buy the ape appearance so much the nose was broader like you'd see what do you call it

with some different races there's a little broader a nose but I don't know the mouth was very wide but that's probably they were so big he was so big

and I'm saying he because there are no breasts or anything like that but you couldn't I wasn't looking at the crotch to be sure it's a guy but it's definitely male

the width of the shoulders is unbelievable you're talking like it looked like four foot wide. He was just wide. It was crazy. And the funny part is the, my sister's boyfriend

got back and he, he was with the gun. And then he called his brother over because he had soiled himself and he wanted to go get out of his pants. And he gave his brother, we were 16, so he gave him a gun,

the thing and told him to watch the door. His brother's, What am I going to do if this thing wants in the house? They had a little trailer. They could just flip it over. Yeah, you're not going to stop it. That's for sure. Yeah, we did not sleep that night, needless to say.

From what we could tell when we were in the trailer, it looked like he just grabbed the deer and went into the tree line. I guess he decided to, he might have, that's where he killed it, or maybe it was a roadkill and he just figured he grabbed it. I'm not sure. But I'll tell you, there is nothing weirder than seeing it when he stood up. up, he looks at us, and then he just reached down like barely with one arm and flung it over his shoulder like it was nothing. And then he started across the road, so we're just like stuck there. And as soon as he got to the left, our left, his brother just hit the metal and just we just tore out. Oh my goodness. Have you heard of any other interactions happening in that same state forest?

Oh yeah, all the time. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. I used to talk to there's, I don't remember his name now, but one of the rangers there, I remember the first time I was up at the campsite I chose, and he came up to put up some flyers, and he asked me how my weekend's going. I told him I was there specifically. I do Bigfoot expeditions, and he's, if you want him, you'll see, you'll see him if you want you to. He goes, I've been here four years, he goes, and the amount of people that have seen him, I just knowing being in the woods at night

he goes you hear the calls because I've never seen him physically this is what the ranger said he said he never seen him physically but he's smelt them and he's hurt him he goes and usually when he hears him he figures he's in the wrong spot and he needs to go

he needs to leave he goes I'm not one to go looking for trouble he goes if you hear a bear growl or something walk the other way yeah but yeah but even there I used to go there I went there, I'll say, four or five times. And it was only the one time that we saw them.

But other times we've had incidences around the camp site that led to one instance in particular, the one I told you about with the horses, that came out, that we got a lot of good footprints and stuff out of that, one partial hand. I didn't make a cast of that, though, because it was questionable, but I wasn't questioning it. Yeah, absolutely. Man, sometimes I call up different forests and try to talk to the Rangers and stuff. I might try to call that one up. I have an episode where I talk to a guy who actually lives there, and he's has a lot of stuff going on. It's 712 of the podcast if you want to check it out. It's pretty interesting, I think. Okay.

But yeah, man, thank you for coming up. Is this a conversation I could actually put on my Bigfoot podcast? Absolutely. It's nice talking to people to actually believe. leave me. Right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Keep us in the loop if anything else happens in the future, for sure. Absolutely, man. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Thank you. Hey, Ray. How's it going? Hello. Hello. Hi there. How are you, sir? Hi there. Hey, man. Yeah, a truck driver. Can you hear me? Yeah, you sound great. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, truck driver for many years, man and I've told the story I think it's just I still can't I would like to go like back in somewhere where they dive into your memory because I still have a hard time the visual of the

face is the hardest part of it like when you look into something and you can't understand what you're looking at everybody's like why didn't you take a picture it's the moment when it's happening you're just numb I did know what I was listen I've never seen a bear on the 20 years of truck driving. But what this was is I was taking Wicker furniture from Atlanta up to High Point, North Carolina. I'd get there probably two or three in the morning. And it was just a drop yard where you dropped your trailer and you grabbed an empty and you turned around. Anyways, you got off this highway and then you would make a right.

It was a quarry down. so you would go down below a highway that ran above. And there was a quarry there, which it told you there was a quarry. In the fog, everything kind of misses when you go down that far below. Anyways, I've just got to say it quick. So it's just a, it's a 2 a.m. thing. I'm coming down the road and something standing in the middle of the road. As a truck driver, it's always something.

You don't know what it is. This thing was standing in front. It was standing in the middle of the road. road and I pulled right up on it when a semi is loud man it's obnoxious you come up most anything runs deer I don't care what it is it runs this thing stood at me all right eye level in a semi it's got to be what seven eight foot staring me in the face this is the hardest part that I have about it because I've talked to so many people about it. It looked very old, like an old man. I tried to look like, I've looked up bears,

what a bear might look like. This thing was not a bear. It was an old man's face, and it was all the hair was gone from the face, right? So it was the hair on the top of the head. But this thing was smelling in the air, like he was smelling something, like he was hunting. I've hunted deer and hogs and I'm a kid from Florida. I know the sense of what I'm looking at, but this thing was really dotted onto something. It was hunting something, and I interrupted it. But it's standing there looking,

it was pissed off at me that I showed up on it. I got bright lights. When you pull the air brakes on a semi, it's obnoxious loud, man. This thing didn't flinch. It looked at me, and then it kept looking up. still smelling. I just, I've tried to explain it to all my friends. Everybody's like,

oh, I was a bear, man. I'm like, I'm telling you, this is not a bear, man. This was something that was larger than life. It was huge, but it was the face I can't get over. It had a normal kind of nose. I can't, I just can't explain it. It was a human eye. It wasn't an animal. But it was an animal, he was covered in hair from, but it stood there long enough for me to turn the engine off and stood there. We were in total silence for, all right, three minutes. Three minutes seemed like in half an hour. It just all was so insane in the moment that you're looking at something. Listen, I've fought myself over and over.

I've told my mom, I've told everybody. and you just know when you're seeing something that's not something in the category of anything. And then when it left and it did go down and do a little bit of a hop away, it didn't run off like you see the old picture of Bigfoot running through the woods like everybody believes. It was different. It was like an eight move. It was a move that I, that's why everybody's like, oh, I was a bear. And I'm like, I'm telling you, man, I know what a bear moves. Like my mom lives in North Carolina.

And the bears stand up when they smell something. When she's seen bear walk through her backyard, telling you, whatever I see, man, was not something on the register. I don't know what else to say to it. High Point, North Carolina, man. It was just a moment of my life. that I can't explain. I still try to figure it out. I even went to the Bigfoot X thing up in North Carolina, and I forgot to tell him the story. I can't explain that. I don't know, you know, the expedition

thing up in... Oh, yeah, Northern Georgia, that well? Yeah, yeah, up in the... And I, they're like, how do you forget to tell him that story? I'm like, I just talk with my wife about it all the time. I'm like, I've seen so many weird things out on the road for so long. But that thing just bugs me. It bugs me hard. It's just what stands that tall in the semi that can look you in the eye? You got to figure how tall that is. It's got to be seven foot, eight foot.

And it was pissed off that I ran up on it. I think a bear would have ran off. It would have been scared. This thing was aggressive, but it was, it had no problem with me. Like, I was in its threat. So I don't know how to explain that to anybody. I do believe in it. I don't know how to tell the story.

I wish I could go back in my memory. It's the face that got me the most, though. It looked like a man's face. It looked like an old man, like native old man. Its hair was, it was really old. Whatever it was really like the old one. It wasn't young. Have you ever thought of going under hypnosis?

That's what I want to do, man. I want that moment because it clearly is in my mind. I remember it. Listen, I didn't grab the phone. I just turned the truck off. Like my sense in me was take the moment. Don't grab the phone. I'm watching it through my big window on my semi and you just you're of course

you're freaked out nobody's gonna believe this I'm not believing this and it looked me straight in the face what are you doing here I knew the quarry was there and you gotta believe in the hunting process just that that's where it would be in a sense I'm a kid from Florida's I know Cougars and I know how things work in Florida Panthers and it's just it all came together in that moment for me to see this big thing huge it was huge but it was old that was the part that got me the most that it's hair was receded way back in its head like you had a huge forehead it wasn't an it was an animal but it had a face that was the part confused me the most

Like I'm looking at an old man. I don't know, man. She shared this story with a lot of people. I appreciate you sharing it up here. Did your truck have any type of dash camera set up? No, of course not. This is eight years ago, man. That's what I'm saying.

My phone was sitting right there on the dash. I could have done something. But you're in shock, man. You're just in shock. Absolutely. You're looking at something you can't explain. It's just, that's the part that bugs me the most. Why didn't I take a picture?

Anyways, I just wanted to share that. Thanks for let me share it, man. Thank you. Thank you, Ray. Yeah. It lives on my memory every day, man. Thank you, bro. Is this a conversation I could share on my Bigfoot podcast I have?

In a heartbeat, man. I would love to share it with more people. Thank you, brother. you sir. Hello. Hey there. How's it going? Good. How about you? Good, good. I'm glad you were able to get up here. Yeah, that was weird. I tried to get on the first time and it told me it needed permission for my microphone and then it kicked me off. But, oh, gotcha. But anyway, yeah, I got on here listening to people and I thought, what a place to maybe share what I've been going through with some of these things, but I don't even really know where to start. I know the last

one I typed in there that the last one experience I had with these things, like save my life literally. Yeah. So four years ago, a buddy and I were hunting elk up in the high UNAs of Utah up here. I've been hunting ever since I was a little kid up there with my parents and my family. and generally throughout the year starting in about July I take my trailer up there and we go up like every weekend camp and do some fun things before the hunt start so where we're camp there's a loop that goes around this whole big area if you drive and from where we're camped I walk over this little ridge just out of camp and there's some beaver ponds and stuff like that that are down in there. And there's a big game trail that comes through. So I set a trail camera up there and kept an eye on it throughout the year

or throughout the months up there that we were there, sorry. And I had quite a few elk that were on this trail camera there. So my buddy and I got our archery elk tags. We decided we were going to go up there and see if we could get into some. So the morning of this, we had driven his truck up halfway around this loop to where we could walk down into this area. There's some big quake and aspens up at the top of this opening that starts with these beaver ponds that go down towards where my trail camera was.

And we decided we were going to go up there and hang a couple of tree stands and just sit there throughout the day. So we get in there and that's what we did. we hung our tree stands we were about 20 yards apart from each other and just sitting there waiting and very uneventful day wasn't hearing or seeing anything and something i got to point out because it falls into this situation here a little bit later is i always have a sidearm on me when i'm up in the mountains and i had this on and every time i'd move in my tree stand my gun would clank on the side of the tree stands. I did my belt took my gun off and I put it in my backpack.

And we sat there for a few hours and it got about 11 o'clock in the morning. And my buddy and I, we decided, let's go back to camp, get something to eat and then we'll come back and do the evening hunt. And so we climbed out of our tree stands and I decided that I would walk down to where my trail camera was and have him drive back around the loop to camp and so I could check out if there was anything new on my trail cameras. So I took off, started walking down the draw and I get down where my trail camera was and I just barely get it unlocked and open it up and I'm starting to look at the pictures in it and I hear a cow elk, the sound they make. And it was just above me. And I froze my bow was laying right next to me and during this hunt you can shoot a cow or a bull elk

And I'm all about putting meat in the freezer when I can So I really wasn't judgmental on what I was gonna shoot so I readied myself with my bow as quite as I could and I'm looking up in the area of where The sound came from which is about 70 to 80 yards above me and some it's thick pines that are up on this little side hill and And so I'm just sitting there watching and I know this trail comes right down from it. And then it's all clear cut to the, I guess it'd be the west of where I'm looking. And so I'm thinking that these elk are going to come walk out right up on this trail above me. And I catch movement in the trees and it's jet black. And I instantly just got a bad feeling.

in my gut. And so I sat there for a few more seconds, just, oh, crap, what do I do? And I thought, maybe it's a moose. So I just sat there, I looked up there, and I heard the elk sound again. And I'm thinking, a moose don't make an elk sound. And so I watched it for a little longer, and I couldn't get a good visual of what it was, but it's black and it was big. It was really big. And it's just keeping itself behind these two specific trees that I can't see it. I can see parts of it as it's moving, but I can't totally make it out. At that point, I figured I knew what it was.

And so I decided it's time to get out of here. I didn't even take time to lock up my trail camera. I just started hiking up the trail that goes up over this ridge and then back down to my camp. was started going and I got maybe 100 yards away from it and I thought I'm going to turn around C with my binoculars

see if I can see anything down there so I'm glassing down there and I don't see anything all of a sudden I hear that elk sound again and it's further to my left down the draw and I pinpoint it and I throw my binoculars up and I see it

and I can see it face. I can, I am looking at this through my binoculars and I see its mouth open and then I hear an elk sound and it is, I don't know what it's doing. I don't know why it's mimicking this. I don't know what, what is going on, but I'm losing my mind that I'm sitting there looking at this thing through my binoculars in the face and it's time just stood still. I'm losing my mind and And I'm watching this thing. And like I say, I watch its mouth open. A couple seconds later, you hear the sound.

And so I try to reach down into my pocket to get my phone. And I'm trying to line my phone up with my binoculars to try to get a picture, anything I can do. And I'm shaking so bad at this point that I can't do anything. And as I'm doing this, all of a sudden this tree it falls right behind me it lands like four feet to my right and I about lost all feeling from my neck down I knew I was in trouble I didn't know what was going to happen but I tried everything in my body was telling me run all I

could muster out was this weird waddle as I'm trying to go down this trail to get away from whatever is behind me. And I didn't physically hear it or know it was there, but I could sense that it was there. And I reached down to my side to grab my gun, and it's not there. So I've got a bow and an arrow, my gun is in my backpack.

So I just kept going, moving as fast as I could. I couldn't ever run. I couldn't ever do anything. Like, it had me locked up. My body froze. I was like, it was everything I could do to just waddle is the best thing I can say. And so I get all the way back down towards my camp.

And my buddy's standing out there by my trailer. And I get over there and I'm just starting to tell him what happened. And this is where the save my life I feel. comes in the biggest storm that I've ever been in my life all of a sudden hit that place it was blue skies when we were out there blue skies the whole time and all the sudden it was trees blown hail came in humongous hail it was like I would have been in real bad trouble if I would have still been out in that when this hit and so I took the whole thing from a scary experience to thinking that maybe they were trying to get my attention.

Maybe they were trying to push me out. I don't know how to explain it. But the events that happened, they were just too weird, too crazy. I've always been a believer since I was a little kid. My father, myself and my dad's friend, we were up in the same area. First light in the morning coming, leaving camp to go hunt. elk and on the ridge line it's this big sage rush mountain in front of us that the road parallels the bottom of it it's probably 600 yards to the top and it's a pretty

steep hill I've hiked up it since then it takes me I don't know 45 minutes to get to hike up it but we watched two human-like things run from the bottom of this hill where there was a bunch of Groverton trees, they ran up that hill and they never stopped until they got to the top of it. And it took them less than a minute to do it. And that's where my belief started with this. But when I came into this situation that just happened on there, I don't know how to explain it. I haven't talked to many people about it.

The last time I talked to anybody about a situation in that area, it was the Forest Service. I told them about an experience that. we were having and surprisingly two weeks later that mountainside where I was explaining to them what was going on that mountainside was on fire oh was on fire I was expecting that you I was expecting to be shut down well man no the mountain side was on fire because the hunts up here they're kind of rapid follow each other we were up on a certain hunt during the time we had some weird stuff going on

and I talked to the Forest Service about it. We left and I came up two weeks later for my next hunt and the mountainside is on fire. There was actually big helicopters up at that time flying through the area as well. I don't know if they were helping trying to put the fire out or what they were doing, but it was a crazy situation. So I haven't ever really wanted to talk to many people about the area. and about the things that are going on because I don't want something like that to happen again. I don't know if they know these things are there

and they kind of a shame on you get out of here to what they did with them, but I didn't want that to happen again. Wow, probably one of the coolest accounts I've heard a while because it is very rare to hear, I think I maybe have heard one other one where the person actually saw the creature to the music sound out of their mouth like you did. So that's extremely rare and just really awesome to hear.

Your picture and your background is like very close. Oh really? That's awesome. What things are different? I think this may have been. Like more female looking more full face not maybe as much hair on the whole face Because I could see it I could see it's I could see its whole face I could see its mouth I could see its nose you could almost through my binoculars you could almost see it like wincing with its eyes

The eyes are they're huge and dark. There's no whites anywhere in them I could this. Do they make binoculars that can take pictures? I'm not sure. That'd be a heck of a invention if they could. As far as the ones I have, I have adapters for my phone for like my spotting scope that you can put on there. But for these binoculars that I carry when I'm in the field, I was just trying to do the best I could, trying to recoil and everything trying to keep my lens in line with the binocular lens in it. I was shaking so bad. It just, it was, it was, it wasn't happening very I've looked at the video and every once in a while I can say oh there it was and but it's not anything you can really like distinctly see yeah

hard to see got you I got you wow what thank you for sharing I am gonna ask even though just because I've been asking people so the conversation we just had is it I have a big foot podcast where I interview people about their accounts or is this one where you might not want to have that on that podcast? I would be fine with it. Awesome. I appreciate them. It might help some people that are dealing with stuff in the same area.

You never know. Man, yeah, keep us in mind if you run into anything else out there, we'd love to hear about it. So thank you for coming up. Absolutely. I appreciate your time. Thanks for having this platform. It's pretty cool to be able to talk about it and not sit there and have people laughing. that you think you're an idiot. Yeah, that's exactly why I do it. So I'm glad you're able to

take part in that. Cool. Yes, stick around if you can and thanks for being here. Absolutely. Well, they'll appreciate it. Hey, Michelle, how are you? Good. How are you? Great. What brings you up tonight? So I had an experience. It was probably about 15 years ago. I'm now 35. So this, it has nothing do with camping, if that's okay. Was not camping. I wasn't used to still live in a small town, Pennsylvania, had a boyfriend. He lived about three miles outside of the town that I'm at.

So went out to his house for a while. It was probably 1.2 a.m. My dad had came to pick me up from the house. And we were on the way home. And it's a main, like it's not busy. And like now it's warehouse has been built up. And back then it was Woods. So we're on the way home. Speed limits probably 55 to 60.

And driving, like I said, about three miles back to my house. All of a sudden we see something. It was all fours when we seen it. Okay. And then we're probably 10 to 15 foot at this point. No time to react. And it was my dad was driving. So we both see it.

He tries to lock up the brakes. There was nothing we could do. So we hit it. It immediately windshield smashed cars. It was pretty much totaled. And I knew we had to hit it at 60. It would have been about 55, 60 miles an hour. And I'm like, what I'm thinking maybe a bear?

But at the last moment, it was up on all fours. We hit it. He managed to get to a stop side of the road. I mean immediately dial 911 call the cops. or call EMS because the windshield his head had went through. So I'm like thinking, get out, don't get out. I want to see what this is. They're, they're like two miles from EMS was like two miles up the road going back.

Sorry, head of the driver or head of the whatever it is you hit. Driver. So I was in the passenger seat and he was driving. So he gets off the road and hurry up call 911 because he can't see glasses in his eye. So they send the M.S as well as state police. So we're outside of the township. So state police, but they got there probably five to ten minutes. And I said, I'm pretty sure I don't know a bear that stands and runs like that.

I said, or a deer. So the cops get there. They get my dad in the back of the ambulance. He's, you know, I'm freaking because I know what we're seeing. He sees it. I see it. And it was like said all last minute. They send the cops out and they there there wasn't many houses on this

stretch. It's it's called Route 11. So it goes like Pennsylvania. It goes also into Maryland. They probably looked for 20 minutes. Whatever it was should have been dead. They find nothing. Now he goes to the hospital.

They're saying I'm overreacting. I'm thinking I know what I've seen. So next day we go home and he was driving. like a suburban it was like a jeep i'd say i think it was a jeep terrykee it was a big vehicle now when we got home the next day we got to looking because and there was a big patch of hair in the windshield but also i'm going to say probably twice the size of a human handprint and it was on the side as if the thing stood up and stopped i don't know how you could stop a vehicle it's it sounds crazy and I know most I don't tell this story this is the first time I've actually told it

but there was a handprint there and we thought you know tell the caught maybe try to get in touch with the cops again but they blew us off as you're crazy you didn't hit nothing how's the vehicle total we had it killed some that can't be the deer would be dead if that was a bear why did it stand up and run off but to this day nothing was ever we're in central Pennsylvania but I've not seen nothing like that since now like I said it's been the woods have been total due to warehousing and stuff like that but crazy crazy encounter okay so let me make sure I got this right so you guys were driving along you hit something it broke the windshield or no you're the driver went through the windshield and then it got up and ran off into the woods

yes he didn't go out the vehicle but he hit his head real hard and it cracked the entire windshield. Okay. Can you share what year this happened? It would have been, so I would have been, okay, I'm 35, I'm going to say I was 20. So 15, it would have been about 15 years ago. So 2010. 2010, yeah. Okay. Can you share the area? You said central PA. Yes, so we're like an hour and a half outside of Harrisburg it's Franklin County Franklin County Pennsylvania and it also goes into I don't

know if you're familiar but Hagerstown Maryland is about a 10-minute drive as well but this is more of like where it went it was royal like that's more city this area just came up earlier tonight really yeah it was a guy who was talking about stuff that was happening and that was at Misha State Forest was it around there it really struck me that it that we could hit something going that fast and they couldn't find anything and it was two or three cops out there looking it's not a slow road it's not like where you go 20 20 it's 55 to 60 in the stretch did you keep the hair i honestly wish we would have and we think about that all the time if we just would have bagged that back then but they made us feel like we were crazy at the time especially myself

because he was in the back of the ambulance because he had the glass in the eyes and everything but they made it feel to where you didn't do nothing. How did my vehicle get totaled? But yeah, it was more like you're losing your mind type thing. We know what we're seeing this day. I know. Wow, that is, I have never talked to anyone who has built out of person. I've heard secondhand. I haven't talked to anyone like you who has said they, they hit something. And to tell you how tall it stood, It was well over the vehicle. I'm going to say it was probably 10 to 12 foot tall. Easy.

Huge. And based on even when we seen the handprint that unlike any human, the cop couldn't have left that, it was huge. It was probably a foot in length. I'd say easy. And I wish I would have got pictures. Back then it wasn't that much with the cell phones and thinking about it long term. But we both agreed to do over we would have.

Don't make us feel crazy. We know what we experienced. Yeah, and that's a tricky one, too, because if you're with a person where they went through the windshield, they have stuff in glass in their eye, you're going to be focusing on that. That's what you should be focusing on. And once they got them in, though, I even, I was telling the cops, like, this is the way it ran. It's got to be dead. Nothing. They just, you're crazy. You're great. What? Were you able to see anything about the face at all? See anything what?

Any face details or anything about arms? It was very hairy. I didn't see a whole lot of the face because of how it happened. But it was huge. It was all fur. As far as I could see, like I said, didn't see a whole lot of the face detail, but it was, like, I would have thought, like, a bear running upright. But then when we did look at the fur, it was like a brown and mostly black, though. Okay.

Okay. wild that is absolutely wild is this a conversation I could put on the big book podcast I have absolutely and I appreciate nobody judging because I know a lot of people I've told the story they look at you like you're crazy and I know I'm not crazy I know what I've seen the thing I want to say on that too is since that happened my dad has been a lot more spiritual if I could worry like that like some of the stuff that he can sense and see I don't know if it would have been linked it or if he had that prior, but just, yeah, it's odd.

If he senses something is around, like, it's, he's seeing different apparition. I know not everybody believes in that, too, but different people in his lifetime. It's, I don't know, it's almost went hand in hand because he never talked about it before, but, yeah. The amount of people I talk to where they have some. kind of interaction and then that stuff kicks in it's really weird you're not the only person to bring that up awesome i appreciate you not make me feel crazy because no no this is why i do all this so that people have a place to to talk about what experience but thank you so much for coming up michel i appreciate it thank you and you guys have a good night you too bye-bye that that was some wild stuff

Wild stuff. Oh my goodness. I didn't mean to join. I was actually just clicking and liking, but my boyfriend was sitting here listening, and he has a big story. Yeah. You want to tell him, babe, about your situation?

Yeah. Here, I'll hand the phone to him because he's the one who's been sitting here listening the most. Yeah, his story's really interesting. Yeah, this was back in 19, probably. 87, yeah. 87 somewhere around there.

We were going camping. It was a bunch of us and we all had four-wheel drives and we were in the central California up around Clear Lake.

And there's some back roads up there that go off the road. There's a place called Stony Fort and Indian Valley Reservoir. And that's where we were at Indian Valley Reservoir. And we had a camp, made a camp there. It's a place out in the middle of nowhere.

You go about 50 miles off road to get to that destination. You leave the main highway, and you travel on a dirt road. It goes all the way up through the mountains. And it's about 50 miles. And anyways, it's a place where you don't see nobody. You can be up there for a week. And if you see anybody, it'll be like a game board. warden or something that drives by or something like that.

So we was up there and there was about probably 10 of us. And most of the guys that went to sleep and there was me and two other guys that stayed up and it was around midnight. And it happened to be a full moon. And there was a hill at the base of our camp. At the base of our camp, there was a hill that went right up to the main road up towards the top. It went up probably about football, a football field, like going straight up to the road. And the moon was coming up right behind that. And there was one tree up there, up there on that road where we come down.

We come down that path down to where we camped. And anyways, so the moon was coming up and it was, you could see the silhouette of that tree. in the moon. And that tree was probably about, probably about 12 to 15 feet tall. And we had a Doberman Pinscher with us, full grown. And we were just sitting there by the campfire. And I had a shotgun laying across my lap. And we were just sitting there and just talking, just me and the other two guys. And we heard the scream sound. It was a sound that unlike I'd never heard anything like that before and we looked up towards the top of the

up the top of the hill where that tree was and it was standing there this bigfoot thing or a Sasquatch or whatever you want to call it and it had its arms up in the air and you could see the hair that was hanging off his elbows and his like where his biceps are underneath you could see him through the moonlight because the moon was right behind him and his arms were as tall as that tree it was standing like right once that tree the dog ended up taking off after him and we're yelling the dog's name was boom and I was going boom get back here come on so I fired a shot up in the air and the thing took off but I had never seen or heard a scream like that thing made, it was loud. It was loud, like almost ear piercing, scream. But with a, with a deep growl like in it, not like a growl, but like a, it's just weird. I've never heard nothing like that before. I've never heard nothing like that before. And anyways, we went back up there. It was, like I said, it was midnight. And we went up there the

next day, the next following morning when it was sunlight and we went to look for tracks because we was up there deer hunting and there was nothing. I mean there was no tracks, there was nothing up there.

But yeah, it was trippy. That's some wild stuff. I've heard a few things, not from that area, but I've heard the Blue Lakes and Harbin Hot Springs. But yeah, Indian Valley Reservoir, that's a first for me. I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you experience, sir. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Your name. Yeah. Is this a conversation I could use in a Bigfoot

podcast that I have? Yes, you can. I'm actually writing a story on that. Oh, you're writing a book. Yeah, it's okay, though. Go ahead and use it. Hey, when you get that book published, send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. I'd like to know about that. Okay. All right. Cool. Awesome. Good talking to you. Thank you.

Enjoying your podcast. All right. Thanks. Hi there. How are you? Hi. Jeremiah. It's Tim from the Lake Cushman.

I was just thinking about you today. I was thinking about you an hour ago. I was like, I bet Tim has updates and I need to reach out to them. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on, man. I haven't connected to you on TikTok yet. But yeah, I guess I could just quickly recap, refresh for people. My girlfriend and I, we go out, we've got a property that's just for camping over on the Olympic Peninsula near Lake Cushman. And it borders up against wilderness. It connects a ravine behind our property, connects into Olympic National Park through forests. And just to sum it up, last year we went out camping and there was snow on the ground.

We weren't expecting it. We went walking back into the ravine and found clear, clear Sasquatch tracks, child's print inside of a parent's footprint. And I think things began to escalate from there. The next day, we had a sighting of, I should say it had a sighting of us, really. it was peeking over the fence that borders the ravine. And I can describe it now as brown sugar. You know what, like the light tan of brown sugar?

Oh, yeah. So have you heard that before? That's a common color of these? I've never heard it explained in that way. That is a new one for me, actually. I've been thinking, and I'm an artist, so I think about color quite a bit. And I've been thinking, like, what, how do I describe it? It's like coyote, it's brown sugar.

It's just that muted, kind of beige. Anyway, this head that popped up twice in my peripheral, so I didn't make eye contact with it. But anyway, from there on, it's been visitations. And the visitations have been pretty steady. I've been out there camping every month over the last year, including throughout the winter. I've been planting trees on the land so that it can reforest. And I think it's the frequency of being out there that we're toyed with, played with.

I'm thinking they're juveniles because the little kind of gesture. that they do, which are, how else do you explain you're sitting around a fire at night and a tiny pebble just goes whizzing through the air? And it's my girlfriend in the back of the head. Not painful, it's not a big rock. It's like a little zinger. Hit the lawn chair. We've got those old aluminum lawn chairs that have the metal, they fold out metal legs. I'm sitting there and just, ding, one, it's the chair. But my favorite, I think, are the sticks that they gift us, and we will find them shoved into the ground where we walk at the edge of our camp.

Overnight, wake up in the morning, and there's a 10-inch, sharp broken stick that looks like it was manhandled and then just shoved into the dirt. That was really cool. And then there's one other one. Oh, boy. It's a primitive campsite. We have to do our business in the woods bit. And a rock just goes whizzing by me. And it hits, it's on a slope. And it hits the ground and just goes. And I don't know how they could throw a rock the size of a baseball.

like it had to come from across the road so we're talking like a football field like 100 yards anyway it's just it's just been it's been an interesting ongoing presence the the calls that we're getting i've told you last time about the fake duck and you've had several people even around around the Hood Canal, around the Olympic Peninsula, it's the duck that turns into a growl at the end, and it happens at midnight when, how many times do you hear a duck just in the woods in a ravine at midnight and then turn into a growl? So, yeah, man, I went camping with buddies there in May. There's just been a continual just enough that it's a really quiet. area, we're the only ones that are camping usually when we camp, weekdays, off-season. And so we're making noise. We're laughing.

My girlfriend's got a really sharp, explosive laugh. And I think that that is, I don't know, like an alarm that they're like, oh, they're here. Let's go, let's go spy. I just love the idea that they're spying on us. That's awesome, man. It's so cool to hear that you're still having stuff happening. in that area. I know because you were starting to ask other people, and I think you were talking to a country store in the area, is that right? Yeah, they, yeah, I definitely, they changed owners,

that little store, but I made good friends with the owner and before he left, and yeah, showed him and his son, the prince, and I haven't really met the neighbors. It's a hard topic to bring up, There's a lot of retired folks that live out there, too. And it's not want to, people can take it one way or the other, it seems like, when you bring up that topic. And I have been, I have had the ridicule and I've had the look at you like your crazy thing. But now it's, I've experienced enough and I've listened to every one of your podcasts and several other podcasts. And it's, duh, there is this. reality, these are subjects of a phenomenon. And you can't deny that. You cannot deny that

there are subjects of a phenomenon. Just plainly put. So, anyway. It'd be interesting. Sometimes you can try to not just jump right into Bigfoot stuff, but you can be like, hey, you ever seen anything weird around you? Something like that. Yeah. It's out of work. Or hear anything weird. Because it's mainly, audio. It's little gifts. I was just out there for two nights and there was a little mushroom left on, I've built this kind of not even a fence. It's a hitch and post out of driftwood. And it's

just the backdrop of the fire pit. And there was a little mushroom left just sitting so perfectly set. And it's, yes, it could be a squirrel. Yes, something else could have dropped it there. But the truth is, I can't rule out the reality that they're a Sasquatch around. They've shown it to us. They've shown themselves. It's really exciting. And here's what I called or why I requested this is I had a one-on-one experience for the first time that I know of. And this happened in May.

And I was camping alone. And I do like to camp alone too. It's so far out and away from everything. So I just feel free and, man, I was singing. I was standing next to the fire singing my heart out. Don't really do it home or you do that while driving. But I'm singing, and I'm singing this song by Beach House. And the song is called Used to Be.

And it's this really just emotional, cathartic song about coming home is the line, coming home. And I'm belting it. I'm just like, coming home. You know, it's this long, drawn-out thing. And right after I did that, I lost myself. I wasn't aware of where I was. It was just one of those moments where I'm just like, I am the song. The song is me. I'm not anywhere. And right after I sung that, probably 30 feet away right at the edge of our camp in the shadows, a big voice. came through and sung right back at me. And it wasn't just a whoop. It was like a whoo-woop.

That's what it sounded like. It was several notes put together. And I was alone. And I don't have weapons. I never have owned a gun. I don't even think on that level. But wow. It just, they say your blood runs cold.

It was like, okay, that's a voice, that's kind of language, but it's responding to my singing. I don't know what to do next. What's the protocol after that happens? Do you sing back to it? I don't know. I now feel like, I should have sung back, but I freaked out. And I started, we have a trailer, and so I went in the trailer and retreated. And then I'm like, hang on. Get over this moment and go back out. And I did.

And I went back out and it was dead silent. And I paused the music. And I'm like, hang on, let's keep the music going. I let it play. I started talking to whoever was there out loud. I stood on our picnic table and showed my hands. I repeated some of the words that I had heard last year, which are like this three-syllable,

oh-wa-oh, is what we heard. It was like, oh, wa-oh. So I said that. I don't know what it means, but anyway, that's just, I just wanted to connect and just share that, yeah, man, it's still hop in place. Man, I'm so glad that we're talking right now because literally I was going to try to reach out to you tomorrow. It's weird.

Wow. But dude, that's awesome. It's still going on for you. I hope it continues. Is this a chat I can put on the podcast as well? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'd be happy if you did. And, yeah, it's been a wild night, hasn't it?

So many varied stories. But, dude, yeah, hope to hear from me again, maybe in a few months. But always good to hear from you, Tim. You have a good one, man. Thank you, Jeremy. Have a great night, man. You too. Bye.

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