Bigfoot Society - We Were Face to Face with the Unknown! | Babcock Ranch, Florida | The Creature Preacher!

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

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Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to an individual I've wanted to get on the show for quite a while. If you're over in the TikTok space, you've probably run across an individual. His name is a creature preacher.

And he just has incredible content and some really good stories, Bigfoot related things. I just, I love watching his stuff, but Creech, it's a pleasure to have you on the show today. Thank you, brother. I'm really excited to be here. I get to enjoy your content on a regular basis. And I've got to meet a lot of your friends and everybody speaks highly of you.

You are the archive of all things big for it, and I love that. Well, thank you for the kind words. Because you were down in Florida and you met some people down there like Tate and Brian, right? I did. Yeah, I got to meet quite a sense. few people. Ryan Gobinski, a few others. I was privileged to speak at the Ocala Bigfoot convention at the Skunkake Roundtable. So I got to meet a lot of those guys and hope to work with some of them in the future and call them friends now. This weekend we're getting to go out

with David Seeley, his skunkake camp out at the headquarters there with the mid-south Florida Bigfoot Alliance and a few others. I can't remember the name of their exact group and I feel horrible. But Marie is the head of that chapter and they're fantastic folks. We're going to do an overnight camp out, not far from where I had a sighting, probably about 50 minutes as the sparrow flies. But when I was a young man, I had seen something in South Florida that started everything for me and changed everything for me at the same time. But I was a Boy Scout at the time. And anybody in South Florida, there was a Boy Scout, well, most likely remember Camp Miles in the Babcock Scout Ranch, which was a very large scout ranch, the largest one in Florida. And it was the largest cattle ranch in Florida

in the second largest cattle ranch in the United States of America at that time. Babcock ranch. He ran a lot of cows, a lot of scrub pine. There's a lot of different mixed environment out that way. But I was a Life Scout working on my Eagle Scout at the time. We had a summer camp out there. I was 14 years old, and I'll never forget that night. And I've changed a lot since then, but we were a little bit rowdy back then.

And this whole story to tell the whole story, I guess I just have to tell the whole story. But it was the weekend, and we had all of our folks coming in. for a big shindig. We were on land that at one time had been owned by the Makisukee Trima, the Seminole band of Florida. So they came out and did a presentation, a powwow for us, and it was a lot of fun. They have a big lake there at Camp Miles,

and I'll never forget that night, because as the scouts were all performing, and the Seminoles were there performing, we were facing the lake on bleachers, and all of a sudden, one of the scouts yells and alligator, and sure enough, there was a giant alligator creeping up towards the people that were dancing around the fire, and they chased them back into the lake.

And that happened to be the same lake where all of us scouts did our mile meribad swim. Ordinarily were people alongside the swimmers and canoes looking for the big alligators. Quite a place and it's changed a lot now. But that night that it happened, it was right after the Seminole presentation, which actually comes into this story later on. But we had watched all the Seminole dancers. We had all went back to our respective camps now. This was a jamboree-style camping event.

So it wasn't just one scout troop. There was multiple scout rooms from all over the state of Florida coming in for the jamboree for the Boy Scouts of America. So in this great big camp, it's like a labyrinth, a giant map, there's campsites all over for different troops. Our troop was not too far from a lake. And there was a central kind of a hub where we would all go and meet where they had a little community store, where they had a lodge and they had the community areas. And after hours, sometimes we would sneak down there and we would get soda pops and we'd hang out. We weren't supposed to, but we would. That night, we had intended to go down and try to tip the machines and get a couple of free pops, which never worked.

And I always tell people don't do that because people die during that every year. I think there's about 10 deaths a year from people messing with machines and them falling on them, believe it or not. But we went down there that night, and we snuck down after all the scouts. I had most of the younger scouts who went to bed. We had two scoutmasters, but one of them never slept wherever we were camping. They hated to camp, so they went and they slept in the parking lot on their. band. And the one that we were left with was a man by the name of junior. He was in his 30s at the time, but he was a little bit of dim bulb. He wasn't the smartest guy, and we loved him, though. He was a good

guy, but that's who they left us to watch us at night. And we snuck out after he went to bed, went down there, and had a good time. We hung out maybe 30 minutes. And we decided we weren't getting any pops. We would head back. It was probably two in the morning at this point, I think. And on the way back, we didn't have, I don't know if you remember those old chunky flashlights that were more flashlight or more battery than flashlight. They were just a giant battery and like a plastic house. Didn't have a very strong beam. I had one of those in my hand.

And this was back in 1993, somewhere around there. It was a long time ago, so we didn't have the fancy old lights that we have now. So I had one of those lights on, but we didn't have the lights on because we could see enough ambient light to see the path. It was a sandy path in the middle of Palmetto scrub and pine trees and everything. So we could see the path. We didn't really want lights giving away. We were out sneaking around, so we'd keep the lights off. And when we got back to camp, we'd go to bed and everything and be fine.

So we had our lights off, and as we were heading back, one of my friends, there were a couple of people, which makes this very interesting, as I have other friends that can corroborate the story, live this with me. And that's always interesting talking with him all these years later. He was at the back of the pack, and I was somewhere in the middle. There was only five or six of us out that night. And we had heard something behind us on the trail,

and the first time we heard it sounded like something scuffing, or something in the bushes. We turned our lights on, turned back, didn't see anything. And then we heard something again to the right of us, and again turned our lights on, didn't see anything. We had assumed we're talking among ourselves and we're thinking somebody's messing with us. And my friend Chris goes,

it's just one of your other campus. We kept walking. And I hear something off to the right that sounds like a grunt, like a low, almost like a bear cough. And I was like, what was that? And we all stop and we're looking over there and nothing. You know, we turn our lights on, nothing. We start walking again.

and we walked just a little ways, and I didn't realize this until later, but there was a smell. It's just I didn't register that at the time. But one of my other friends had just before that said, who cut a fart? We just thought that it was one of us, like this just didn't really even put two and two together.

And we'd take it a few more steps, and my friend Chris goes, what do you do? And we all turn around when he says that and he turns the light on. And in the path, directly in the middle of the road, is something that, you know, it just, I've taken a stab at describing it a dozen times. It wasn't very tall.

It wasn't like what I would anticipate seeing, you know, as a big foot. I had no place of reference in my mind. It was maybe man size, six, six and a half foot tall, but it had more stoop shoulders. And I could tell immediately what I was looking at was not a person. I think we all could, but we couldn't tell what we were looking. None of us had a frame of reference. I remember the light tracking up and seeing feet like hair and going up. And when we saw the face, I'll never forget to the day I die.

And this is where people, I've said this before. You can't fake at that time. There's no way that you could fake a mask like this. It's just no way. I show the lip pull up. I saw the eye twits. I mean, I saw the face and I saw the mouth and I saw the teeth. And about that time, one of my friends had said that.

What are you doing was the last word that had been spoken. We're all looking at this. None of us had a set a word. this point. But by the time the light had tracked up to the face and we all caught what we were looking at and it was looking at us and its lip turned up almost like a sneer. It wasn't an aggressive. To this day, I don't think it was a threatening thing. I think it just for whatever reason when we all saw that, one of us ran and we all did. It was like a light switch went on. We didn't know what we were seeing, but when we saw that, we were certain that it wasn't one of the other troopers messing

with us. It wasn't anything that we were supposed to be seeing. Something completely different. So this happens. We're all running. I kid you. I have run. I don't like running. I boxed. I've wrestled on jujitsu.

I'll do road work, but I never liked it. Never was very fast. There was always a fighter, not a runner. I ran so fast that night. I had never ran that fast in my life. I had tears streaking down my face. I was terrified. I was just not wanting,

my terror was being left behind and not wanting to be the last one. And that was my fear. That's why I was more afraid of that fear than whatever that thing was. I just didn't want to be the last one. I didn't want to be the last one. I didn't want to, I just didn't. So we ran so fast, I ran into the camp. And we have these old style tents.

There's a campsite. There's a latrine that's built. It's of wood. But most of the tents are canvas style, a frame tents on a raised platform in case we get heavy rains. So your gear is warm. You have a foot locker in there and two cots, two scouts to each ten. But those old tents have guidelines that run down each side and stake down to the ground to keep them steady and heavy rains and winds and storms. I hit one of those guidelines running so fast that I rolled a good 20 feet and I hit

picnic table so hard it knocked the air out of me. I came up just spitting, crying. We were so afraid. I could have my friends corroborate. We were so terrified. Junior came out wondering what was going on. Now, I'm the 14-year-old. I was terrified.

I was terrified along with everybody else. And there was a sense of shared panic. Everybody else had seen it was terrified. We wanted to go home. And Junior being a little slow, not knowing what's going on, I think that he didn't understand the gravity of our situation. But when the younger scouts had heard what was going on, they looked up to some of the older scouts,

we were and they didn't want to stay. So we had this big hubbub now. So finally, we talked to junior, we pretty much, the older scouts said, Jr, if you don't go right now and get Nick Stanfield, we're going to do something bad. Like we were that upset. Like there were kids crying.

They wanted to go to their moms. Like, they did not want to be there anymore. We didn't want them there because what we saw, we thought was dangerous. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. We thought that it was an escaped animal of some kind of something. We didn't know what to think. Remember, I'm a 14-year-old kid.

I grew up in a family of people that have worked with animals. I've been around chimps, I've been around orangutans, gorillas, and everything. What I had seen was no, not one of those. It wasn't a person in a suit. I knew that right away. But I was also rebelling against what I had seen. So when they were asking me, what was it? We're all trying to figure out.

We didn't know. We didn't know. We didn't know. somebody said a winter wolf somebody said big foot another person said they didn't know it looked like a monster we were just freaking out but here's where it gets even more interesting if it camped already and it really is an interesting story but after we get some of the parents that come and they pick up their kids my folks come all the way from naples is where I lived and this is a good 45 minutes by the time they had gotten out they have airboats and swamp buggies in the camp in the in the lake where we were we can all remember distinctly hearing it There were helicopters.

I'm not even exaggerating. Swamp buggies are people that aren't from Florida don't know what swamp buggies are. They're great big vehicles that are raised up on pretty much tractor tires and they just mow through everything. They can just go right through the water. They can go right through the mud. They can go right over the small trees and everything. Then you have airboats that float on top of the water and then, of course, helicopters. So we were told people from Florida Fish and Game came.

The people that were ahead of the scout camp came and we're talking with us in explaining what happened. Now, one of the people said that this is true too. the octagon, it's a sanctuary right near them. It's still there to this day. The octagon sanctuary is still there. And they take in, at that time, they had animals from the circus. They had an orangutan. They had a few other animals, a couple of tigers. Tigers are rescued. They don't have teeth. They get old or they're re-a-em. So they told us that night that it was nothing more than escaped orangutan. The octagon said they never had an escaped animal. I work with a 501c3. If you follow me on my page, I get to work with tigers and lions. I work with a lot of 501c-c-3s that

work with those animals. And still, as a 14-year-old, I had just started working at Jumbullerries. I didn't know anything about a lot of bad end of it, but I assured them that what I had seen was no orangutan. It was not an orangutan. But I can tell you this. Years and years later, I saw the closest representation of what I saw that night. And I'll tell you what that is in a moment. But we had them out there most of the night. We ended up going home. They said there was nothing more than escaped animal. Blahidi-blodidda. That was what happened there. The octagon had all other animals accounted for. We went back to life as normal.

And I was never able to get that out of my mind. Now, my uncle is George Schaller, and he's a primatologist. And I remember my father were talking with him, and he's worked with Diane Fosse. He really knows his stuff. So he, being a scientist or some note, he's already been in Bigfoot research, which is funny. When George, when he talked about Bigfoot, and to this day, he's 93 years old. And every once in a while, he'll talk about Bigfoot. He turned the Bigfoot world upside down when he did not come out and say he didn't believe in Bigfoot.

In fact, he said the exact opposite. He said, and he used to say that all the time. He said that Bigfoot and the science of Bigfoot and the study of Bigfoot cannot be so easily denied. And that's something that I took with me. And when I had talked with my father about what we had seen, my father never denied, never said that it couldn't be, never said it had to be somebody in a suit. He said the same thing that my uncle said. How do you know that it wasn't a Bigfoot? And I don't.

And that started me on this journey. Now, growing up, I've always been very open-minded because of my family. I had a bestioree as a child that had unicorns and dragons right next to hyena and lions. So I've always been very open-minded, but I was a scientific skeptic. Unless I could really prove it beyond a shadow of doubt, I didn't really believe in it. And as far as Bigfoot at the time, I would have said that I did not believe whatsoever in Bigfoot. But what happened that night is I started to peel away all the other things. What I was left with was this enigma.

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and people, everybody's saying it's things and everybody's saying it's a hoax but I saw that and it freaked me out. Now, one thing that has bothered me about the photo and about my own recollection to this day is I can't remember sometimes I believe I saw I shine and other times I don't that's the one thing that I and I talked with the others too when we're showing the light did you see I shine and part of me and I don't know if that I have a very good memory but I can't quite remember part of me thinks that I did and part of me is not so sure which is really weird I do remember I do remember on the myoccus skunk ape seeing some eyesha and thinking to myself, I don't remember, and I don't

know if the photograph of the myaca skunk ape has bled into my own experience or not, but what I had seen there that night, and then later, much later when my friend said, hey, do you remember us talking about the fart smell? And it was like, I do remember that. And I didn't, I would never have known that was something that came with Bigfoot, the smell or anything like that. But I do remember that smell and I can remember it distinctly now. It wasn't so much a fart smell. It was a pungent, like a goatee, almost like a very strong beo. Like, you know, you're in Europe at a Disney and nobody's washed type of a smell. You know what I mean?

It was pungent. But I do remember now when we talk about it, some of my friends, he bought that up. He said, do remember that? And I do. And I do remember it now. But so that was what started it all for me. That was the experience that kind of began everything. To this day, I believe what I saw, and I do believe what I saw was it was.

a primate. I believe that it was, some people call them napes, and I'm just as comfortable with North American ape at this point as skunk ape, because what I saw, I firmly believe that it was a real flesh and blood animal. And I also believe that it's a very real animal that needs conservation. I actually, that's how strongly I believe that they're out there. And I could go under dozens and dozens of reasons why I believe they're out there to this day, but I do believe at this very moment that there is a population. He's here tofore have discovered primates

or previously discovered but not adequately so that are living in Seminole County, different places in Florida. And I even to myself sometimes when I say that where I feel

some days I have more doubt than I have faith, but I do believe that and I believe that in many ways we could prove that at least enough so that we should offer designation for these animals.

Now preemptively before we lose them, I do believe that. I believe they're out there. That's incredible. I can already tell it. It really affected you as a 14-year-old. Oh, yeah. Still does. Thinking back to what you saw that night, and you said the lips were like they were pulled up a little bit, were you able to see what the teeth looked like? Oh, yeah, they were like chicklets. They were wide and whitish yellow. They were not clean chicklets.

They were large, flat, shovel-shaped teeth from what I had seen. They were large. It looked like it had a mouth full of big, wide teeth. They weren't wear wool teeth or anything like that. It looked like our teeth. And that's why I knew that it wasn't a mask. Even the color of the face, it was like a mocha. You could see what appeared to be wrinkles. You could see the musculature. You could see a little bit of everything.

Of course, people are like, how did you see all that in a split moment? If you've ever been in a situation like that, you tend to do that. Your adrenaline spikes. And as a matter of fight or flight, your mind slows everything down for you to make decisions. It's really a neat phenomenon, but I asked my friend later, how long do you think the light was on it? And he said, by the time the light traveled from its feet to its face, and we saw it smile at us, he said that might have been a second and a half to three seconds, but it wasn't very long. And the light was shaky, but by the time it got to the face, it steadied there.

And we saw that. And to this day, somebody asked me, I did a podcast with a buddy. He asked, was it a hostile look? And at the time, I would have said, no. But I understand more about primatology now. I understand that when a chimpanzee smiles, it's a lot different than when we smile. I don't know what that look conveyed. The eyes, from what I recall of the eyes, there was some hair over the face, but the eyes seemed a lot like our eyes.

I do remember that. I don't recall. Like I said, it seems like I had seen eyes shine. It might have been, has it turned for a moment, but I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's from seeing those pictures later and trying to sort it out. But that's the only thing that to me and another friend, too, he's one of our other friends said that he saw. I have a friend named Kyle Epler that was there with this.

He's passed away and he disappeared in the Everglades. Believe it or not, he disappeared in the Everglades. Sorry to hear that. And he's never been seen since. Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough one. His name's Kyle Epler. He was one of my best friends.

And he went out there and never came home. But we talked about it a lot over the years and he believed like I did. He believed that what we saw that night was an animal, a primate. He doesn't believe there was anything mythical about it. He doesn't believe it was an alien or anything like that or a hoax. He believes that what we saw was an actual animal. And I have to believe that. There's nothing else I can believe.

And because of that, over the years, I've developed quite a few different theories as to how something like that could be there. Why it's there in the first place? I have two main theories on what the skunk ape is. It's either here to for a branch or V8. something along the lines of Pan, which should be the chimpanzees, maybe something more along the lines of the orangutans, which are a little bit separate,

or we have to face the fact that it could also be a homo species. And that's something that to this day, a lot of people really have trouble with Bigfoot research as a whole. But you know as well as I do that there is real research being done. There's research in the genome. There's a lot of research being done into primates. And Bigfoot, to me, is a primate. And a lot of people believe the same way,

even in anthropology, there's a lot of people with PhDs that also believe that Bigfoot could very well be an offshoot of the Homo sapiens. If there is another species on the branch of Homo, then it's possible. We shared space with Neanderthal. We shared space with many different sentient beings that were like us, that we're not human beings. We're not Homo sapiens. We have a few different likely representatives that I think it's possible that this being could be Some people believe Denisovans, but I don't know. It's always been my theory. I'll go real briefly with it.

What I believe they are. What I believe what I saw is one of those two things, but when we came across the Bering Strait, the Land Bridge, I don't believe we were alone. I don't believe we were alone. I believe that there was another species that came across the Land Bridge. We know that we shared space with the Andretel. We know that at one time it was inconceivable to think that we slept with them

and we bred with them and we had babies. We know now, without a shadow of doubt, that we carry their unique genetic traits in some of our DNA, especially Eastern European DNA. Could some of them or something like them also take an advantage of the passage between the worlds, I believe so? And just like humans, I always tell people this. Humans are, we're amazing. If you look at the human tree, I take Africa, for instance, in the same spot in Africa in the Congo, you have the Bantu and the Baku people.

Some call them the pygmies that they don't really like. that term, but the Baku are very short people, sometimes four foot tall, very short. And then the Bantu, who live right alongside them are tall, nilotic people who average about 6-5 to 6-6. Now, those are two humans. They're just humans in the same spot. So are we not to think that if something else came over, they also wouldn't have benefited from mutation or evolution, if you want to use evolution. Of course it would have evolved to take advantage of new habitat. Now, I believe that they came across with us, and if they did, they came across like two competing species. They didn't come across to a friendship. We don't do that very well with other species. We tend to out-compete other

species. Wolves, any other, I could tell you all the different prey relationships with animals that we, you know, we just, we didn't want wolves in the eastern part of the United States. We got rid of them. We didn't want mountain lions. We got rid of them. So it stands the reason that when we encountered these beings, we also were at, it was an antagonistic relationship with them. I'm like hyenas and lions, I think. So if we came across, most likely, wherever humans went, these beings would not go or they would stay at the periphery of us. I believe for these preachers, would you call them Bigfoot, whether you call them skunk apes, you call them NAPes, North American apes. I believe 100%. I truly do believe this, that they would have the instinctual and ancestral knowledge to understand that we are the goodyman. We're enemy number one. If you're a bigfoot or your Sasquets or you're a skunk ape mother or fove, you're instilling and you're young a fear of us. Not to go. hang out with us, not to go spy on us, not to go look for us, but to stay away from us.

If they smell gunpowder, to get away from it, if they smell dogs or anything associated with humans, they get away. I believe that. I truly do. And I believe that would be something that would be instinctual within them that would 100% instinctually no to do that. And I think that they would take advantage of a lot of different environments along the way. There's been a lot of changes since that land bridge was open for us, and we've changed. Humans have persevered. Some areas we've grown taller and other areas we've grown shorter. We have the Inuits who tend to use a short, compact body shape to conserve heat. Then we have tall people like Maasai who are very tall and thin to shed that excess heat in a lot of different reasons. But when you get

into the science, most of the time, the farther north you go, things get larger. You do something called Bergman's Law, especially mammals. These beings, if they went across to a place like Alaska, stands the reason they'd be getting bigger on certain areas. They'd be getting bigger to take advantage. And in Florida, it would stand to reason that they wouldn't be nearly as big. It would be smaller, especially moving through different environments. Now, the Everglades is thousands upon thousands of acres that are inaccessible to humans except for Swambuggy or Airboats. And even those places, there are places out there that nobody goes. There's no reason to go. And we call it a reverse oasis because in the rainy season, the water fills up the Everglades and the high ground,

which is what we call are hummocks or hammocks of land where all the trees the scrub oak the pomeadow of the swamp cabbage that's where all the life goes all the bears all the florida panthers all those things that are in aquatic they have to have high ground so they go to those areas and that's where i believe that these beings i think that they take advantage of those hummocks so the skunk tape is interesting in the fact that if if they are out there they've developed in such a way to take advantage of a marginally flooded area that they're highly aquatic. They're able to go in and out of the water, which is not something you ordinarily see with long shaggy hair and a body plan like that. But I do believe they're out there. What I saw, interesting, it was wet. And I forgot to tell you that.

But what we had seen that night, its fur was not completely dry. You could tell that it had been wet. It was in the process of drying. And it appeared like it had stuff on it. So maybe it was duckweed or maybe it was plants that are picked up, but I do believe that whatever it was had at some point been in that lake and it come out of the lake and was traveling through the palmetters, which isn't unbelievable to think. There's a lot of humans, too, believe it or not, there's people that hardly ever stepped foot on land. They're living in the boats in the ocean, and they can dive down and they can stay down farther than anybody else under the water and hold their breath longer, and they've adapted to take advantage of that lifestyle in very short order. So I do believe they're out there.

And I have to because the only other answer to me is that I'm crazy and that we're all crazy. I don't think we're all crazy, Creech, to jump in. There's enough evidence out there. There's enough evidence. Floyd is interesting, brother, with Bigfoot research as a whole, and this is something I've determined over years of doing this. There's a lot of different names for the same thing or something very similar. Around the world, just in the United States, America. If we use Alaska alone, there's probably about 10 different names that I could isolate right now from the different people groups.

of very similar beings, and that's just Alaska. But if you take the United States of a whole of the living peoples that are here, and their myths and legends, you're looking at over a hundred different names who are very similar being in the United States of America. Those are from only the groups that we have the names, and we have to understand through the late, the middle period. There have been people here before the Native American tribes even that we don't have much history on. What were their stories? They were here for thousands of years, and they traded all through these areas and built these great civilizations, and they had stories without a doubt. And that's just in the United States, you move into Canada, you move into South America,

whatever you go. I don't care if you go back to some of the Babylonian texts. They believed in hairy giants. You go to the Aztecs, guess what? The Aztecs believed in hairy giants. So people, groups that didn't have anything to do with one another, have very similar stories, different names, but similar stories for similar beings. My sad truth is these days, and it is a sad truth, is that I believe that 99% of what I get comes across my desk, I have a hard time believing. I really do. But I still believe that they're out there, but I have to say that I believe that they're critically endangered, if not extinct, many of them. I mean, I don't think it's just one.

I believe just like us, I believe there's probably different subspecies that we could almost say, hey, sort of a coyote and a wolf. You know, they're both caned, but they're different enough to be called a coyote and a wolf, not just different size coyote or a different size wolf. So I believe there might have been different that they've changed enough. There might be a difference between what we see in Florida and what we see in the western part of the country or in Alaska that they would be considered different species rather than a subspecies of the same. Absolutely. This trip you're taking in Florida, this expedition you're going on, will this be the first time you've actively gone out and tried to look for Bigfoot? Yes. Yeah?

No. Yes and no. This would be the first time I went with any group. But I've been doing this my whole life. And I guess I've been doing it in the Long Wolf because when I go out and I've got some money. interesting encounters along the way. I've had, in North Carolina, I've had a few encounters. Even my wife shared a couple of my encounters. So I believe I encountered something there. I've never had seen. I've never seen anything else. But I've encountered some very tantalizing signs along

the way. I found some very interesting footprints in the Everglades. I found some, heard some very strange noises, both in Florida, North Carolina and right here in Crystal River of what I believe that the locals called the Blue White Thump Thumps, which is another name for what I think are Bigfoot. But yeah, so this would be the first time that I went out with a group, I've always been, I'm an introvert. You know, it's weird. I just pop up, but I'm a real introvert, so I don't really do stuff like this too often. But I'm looking forward to going with them, and there is going to be real research. But the research that I do here in Christopher River, like, for instance, when I'm done with my live streams at night, I'll ride my, I'm weird,

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morning walking around down by the river. That's just what I've always done. So I spend farm, people think I'm a character and that I'm all made up. You can ask anybody that's ever known me, I'm weird all the time. This is what I do. So when I get up, I'll be up tonight after alive at 2 o'clock in the morning, I'll take my e-bike and I'll go through all. I can't really get away too much of it, but I'll go through a lot of spots that technically you're not really supposed to, state areas and parks and things. But I don't leave a trace and I go very slow and I go very quiet.

And I'm there for the wildlife. I'm a zoologist. So I love, I go out and I do habitat survey. I'm looking for a wild board. I get videos of bobcats like last night. I got a great video of a big fat bobcat hunting. So I love doing stuff like that. But when you spend so much time out there, I leave room.

I leave room for researching a little bit of everything. I've had some interesting experiences. Now, I don't, I honestly don't believe. I believe that the beings that are extraordinarily curious, But I also believe they're extraordinarily frightened of us, and that's their prime directive, is to stay away from us, not to learn from us, not to get near us. It would be like, when I see a lot of people

doing the tree knocking, hooting and hollering, it'd be like Michael Myers ringing a dinner bill. Are you going to go to him or Freddie Kruger, yelling for you to come out when you're hiding? Would you go to Freddie Krueger? No, you wouldn't. If you know that Jason or Freddie Krueger out there, what are you going to do, brother?

You're going to get out of it. You're not going to stop running, right? You're going to get in the closest car. You're going to drive. you're going to get on a boat, you're going to get out of dodge. And I do believe that the only way we're going to find them is not to, we're not going to entice them to us. And I stand outside with this because a lot of people don't like my approach. I believe we're going to have to catch them.

We're going to have to sneak up on them. We're going to have to catch. And I do believe that when we do get good video evidence, when we do get good photographic evidence, I believe we're catching the slackers. I believe we're catching the ones that have left their home groups or whatever reason, a bachelor, maybe the old, the infirm, they've left their guard down. I believe we're getting accidental. accidental exposure to them. But I believe they're extraordinarily frightened of us. I believe that

if we are in their territory, if anything, they might have some of the adults keep an eye on us, and that's it. So you have to be able to be aware of that. You have to understand what to look for. Just like anything else in the forest, there's clues. When I'm out at night and I hear, I know every animal out here that makes noise. I know everyone. There's not an insect or there's not a species of frog, but I don't know what it is or bird. All right? So when I am going down the road listening and I hear all of them stop talking or I hear all of them start talking they're saying something you just have to know what they're saying every one of those animals people think animals are dumb every one of those birds has a dozen different calls for different clitters you have to

worry about you know that if they see a snake coming through the trees they've got a call for a snake if it's an owl they got a call for an owl when they call out the birds know the snake's going to be on the ground look for something on the ground if they know it's an owl or a bird of prey they hear that bird call they're looking up they understand so I listen to rose clues at That's the only way I'm going to get up on them is I listen to all those clues. I take advantage of that. And I've had some interesting experiences out there, although I've never got anything on film yet. I've had experiences where I believe 100% that they've seen me.

And it's not a matter of them sensing that I'm good and not going to harm them or anything like that. It's I'm a threat to them. I'm a predator. I'm a threat number one to them. Just like you are, just like everybody else is. We're a threat to their very existence. And to say that we're not is to not really understand. humanity as a whole. We are a threat to them by our very nature. So they understand that.

I don't think they're coming when we knock on trees. I think of anything, it might alert them to get out of the area. So that's not something I do. That's not something I subscribe to. It's not saying that I don't believe that some people each to his own. But I've been at this since I was 14 years old. And I've studied from others and I've learned from others and I've seen a lot of what doesn't work. So I'm going to stick with doing what I'm doing. Maybe it'll work. it'll work. But I've also isolated, I have some good scientists, a good friend that I've befriended in the world and the United States of America that don't have human interference. There's an entire field of study devoted to that.

And there's only about 12 or 13 unique areas in the world that aren't contaminated by human extortion. You can't hear a plane going over their head, places like the deep ocean area on a trench. But there are a few places on land on terra firma that have very little human. encroachment. And those are the places that I would like to focus on. And I've been saying for years with the advent of environmental DNA, our greatest asset right now we have, and we're not using it for the field of study, research, a big friend. And that is environmental DNA sampling. We have an idea of what's not out there now. But there's still something turning up that we don't know what it is.

So we have to figure it out. But I do believe that in the case of the skunk tape, I believe there's a few places on the planet that we'd be most likely to find, a hairy, I guess that would be a good term for them. And I think that the Everglades is one of those places. Florida is one of those places. It has everything an animal like that would need. And most Floridians, they have a struggle with this. They go, I live in Florida.

There's no way. There's too many people. It's a funny thing about Florida. Most people that have lived here their whole life have never seen real Florida. You know what I mean? They've never had a boat. They might have had a paddleboard out in the ocean, but they've never been out in the heart of the Everglades.

They've never been out in the interior hunting wild hogs or anything. They don't know what's out there. They don't know that. the gigantic tracks of land. They don't understand the mystery to the Everglades, travel through the 10,000 islands, how difficult it can be. We're just now starting to see that.

It's absolutely amazing out there. So I do believe something like that could take advantage of the Everglades ecosystem and thrive and still remain undetected, barely detected. It's intelligent. I always tell people that too, because the number one thing I get from folks, is, well, where are their bodies?

Why are we finding them? Why don't we have them? And I'm a hunter. I'm out there all the time. Why am I not seeing them? I always tease people, but I'm 100% serious when I say this. Like most hunters, they get up and they go out to their tree stand. It makes so much noise getting between their truck and that tree stand.

Everything out there knows they're already out there. They're just getting ones that are dumb enough to still come in and pick up the corn. Coyotes, all this stuff's going to hear you going out to the tree stand. But these things are very intelligent. I honestly, Jeremiah, I believe that they're as intelligent as I spent a different type of intelligence. I do believe that. There's a lot of animals that I would put out there that had extraordinary intelligence, but we judge intelligence based upon our own, which is a very flawed way of your intelligence,

because we've been around for the blink of an eye, evolutionarily speaking. And sharks who have small brains and alligators who have small brains, now very intelligent, they say. They've been around through six major extinction events. So I believe these animals are big brain, but I also believe they're instinctually big brain. I think that they're smarter than us in some capacity, an enormous capacity for understanding their environment. There's definitely instances where you can see some seriously intelligent things going on. For example, in southeast Oklahoma, there's been places where they found like nutcracking stations in the Washita National Forest.

An individual I talked to has talked to me about potential precursors of language that have been captured in different audio recordings out in the Pacific Northwest, which to me is just. It's fascinating. Those are eerie. Yes. Those are very ears. You know what I'm talking about? Very eerie. They're close to what the orangutans were recorded doing in German zoos.

That's their natural language. I do believe that, too. Something that brings up to me, and this is what I've come to a conclusion over the years, that we hear them all the time. We just don't know it. There's a lot of animals, and there's a lot of myth, I believe. I'm not just, this isn't just something that I'm just thinking, it's my own. For a lot of Native American myths and legends about some of the hairy hominids, they were mimics. So there are other.

animals and I've studied other primates that are mimics. Believe it or not, I could do a video and show you a video of an orangutan speaking English and chimpanzees speaking Irish, Gaelic, and English. So people don't know this, but chimpanzees can mimic. Some orangutans can mimic. There's an orangutan that can speak many different words, not just one. And I could prove it too. I can actually show videos of chimpanzee mimicking. Ma, ma, ma, speaking. We know that great apes are able to do it. We know that some other animals like seals are able to mimic human speech. It sounds crazy when they do, but they do. So why not a hairy hominid like Bigfoot? So I do believe that they're able to mimic. I do believe that they have some form of vocalization. What I mean is this. I've been out in the

woods and I told you, I alluded to some of those encounters I've had over the years. Many of those encounters that I've had with what I believe they're hairy hominids did not sound like a hairy hominid. They sounded like something else. So I believe that's one of the ways that they interact when people are around. I don't believe that I believe that they use other night animal noises. And I know that sounds like almost a cop-out, like easy beliefism. But I could have my wife come out and share this with you too. I've heard animals that you don't ordinarily hear during the day. I've heard at night.

I've heard some dead giveaways. I've heard, and you can always tell the difference between one of their vocalizations. It doesn't sound right. It sounds off. So for instance, if it's a mockingbird, if it's a call that you might hear a mockingbird make, it's going to sound deeper. It's going to sound betteral. It's going to sound off.

If you hear something that you might hear a duck or an owl make, it's going to sound different. It's going to sound off. It's going to sound weird. or a Cody Hall. They can do a few different vocalizations, and I've heard these, and it's something that I believe that is part of their natural language. I think that's how they communicate. I think they communicate by mimicking. Just we have some birds, cuckoos, Blue Jays, mockingbirds. They all mimic other birds for different reasons. And I believe that these beings mimic everything out there, every other animal they share space with, even some noises that they might hear.

I believe that's why we hear tree knots, why we hear things like that. I think that they're demonstrative language, and I believe that there's a reason for that. A lot of chimps, A lot of apes use demonstrative language. We see that with chimpanzees and gruelers all the time. Chess cupping. We see that with noise making, with rattling of branches, with banging of trees on the ground. There's a reason for noise making.

It's language. It's what chimps use to communicate to another chimp. Something. We don't want you in a territory. This is my woman. Whatever it is, they use that communicate. And I believe that Sasquatch, Bigfoot, Harry hominids, I believe they also use demonstrative language like knocking,

but also mimicking. And I've heard so many times out there, I've had this. And it's not, oh, man, right where I'm at right now, I'm in Crystal River, Florida. And there is a huge, this is an area that's had a lot of sight of here. Right where I'm at the park that I'm in right now at rock crusher, they've got a lot of sighties. I've had some strange experiences even here at night.

And I go looking for them, of course. But I've had some strange experiences at night. I've heard things that you, so I heard a cat. And this is a really strange one. A house cat from a cave. And I wasn't foolish enough to go in and love. but the area where I could tell you, if we had much more time, I'd tell you some of the stories that the blue-eyed dump-thumps here.

But supposedly, a blue-eyed thump or a big foot was shot here in 1972. And the caves at the rock crusher, it's an old mine. So knowing that and reading the research and getting their old reports and talking with people, that's been an area that I've been poking around it ever since, and it's an ideal place. It's extraordinarily inaccessible. It's private property, so it's inaccessible, and there's a lot of caves. There's old quarries. it's just really hard to transverse back there.

And I was back there one evening and walking around. It was probably three in the morning. And I have a really good headlamp, but I was walking and there's an old, I wanted to go down to the old caves, but the steps were all beat up and all broken. So I didn't want to go down there. I found another spot. I'm trying to explain the best I can, but there's like an amphitheater, a stage, and then above it, there's all these rock ledges where the caves are. And I was making my way up there and I hear a cat. And it's the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life.

Because I knew that it was supposed to be a cat meowing, that it was not a cat meowing. And I believe that it was either a person, either a mad person, like some crazy homeless person up there, like messing with me or it was something else. Because it wasn't like any cat that I'd ever heard. And I got the hebie-jubes and I got out of there. I really did. I'm not afraid to say that I was a scared of. of it and I got out of there because it did not sound sounded like something trying to get me to investigate and I wasn't about to have it. I was like, nope. And the funny thing was I had heard

stories like that before of different places of people hearing things that they go out and investigate and that animal wouldn't be there. So I've often wondered about that correlation. I do believe that's how they communicate. I do believe that they mimic a lot of different sounds. They can mimic even us. If we're out in an area like the predator, predator movies, I reckon if we're talking enough, one of the stories that I'd heard here in the rock crusher is of Bigfoot mimicking human speech saying get out. And that was a really creepy story. But could you imagine being out there and having some tall, hairy hominid, yell at you, and passable English, go out.

So I do believe that I've heard them before. I believe that I've heard different things. When we were in North Carolina, Shelley heard this, we had a piece of property with some strange things that had happened. Then I go out, Roman at night. And I woke her up at 2 o'clock in the morning to come out and listen. We heard something banging on a tree. and when I heard the banging on the tree

I was like, no, I don't believe in tree knocking It's like not something I ordinarily think of But directly after that we hear this low-pitched honking noise and it was the strangest I've never heard another beef I've heard maybe one other person said They've heard a similar sound But it was like a real deep like a

Like that over and over again But it was the strangest deepest It wasn't it was like a bullfrog on steroids It was the weirdest thing But since it came with that Whatever was beating on a tree by the time I got my wife up she heard the tree knocking too

but she heard that and I wasn't going to go an investigation I said uh-uh I'm just going to stay right there on the porch so we listened for a while I got a little bit of it on video and that was it but I'm firmly convinced that if these beings are out there and they've learned to live alongside of us

in such a way that it's beneath our notice for the most part and that'd be a good way to do it I think no the audio thing is it's the weirdest thing until you experience it for yourself I think I'd be scared to death. Just an anecdote.

I'll throw in real quick. So we were out in Oregon for a while in the Willamette National Forest this summer. And a group of us were there Sunday afternoon, and we were just sitting in nylon chairs. And only one person in the group heard this live. There was a recording an individual was doing on their phone, and we got some whoops on the recording. No one heard it live except for the one lady. And then there was a very low mumbling noise. And for the longest time, I thought that it was me because it sounded like me.

And I had this individual that was looking at my audio for the whoops. And he's, you've also captured this precursor to language too. And he pointed, he said, look at this part. And I was like, that's me. And he's, that's pretty much not possible because humans don't go that far down on the scale in the spectrograph. And I was like, oh, dear. Because it sounds like me, dude. That's that weird low register.

Yeah. That's weird. That's something too. So those whoops always have freaked me out. And primates are capable of a wide range of vocalizations. People don't just quite realize. And now a lot of people say that they're not able to create human speech, but the possibility exists that they will be.

If you look up chimpanzee speaking, it'll blow your mind. Look up orangutan speaking. It'll blow your mind because it's something that is outside of what. we expect. But yeah, those vocalizations, I do believe they're out there. And I wonder more so if those are warnings or if there's a communication between bands or what theirs would be. If they are small groups, I've heard a lot of people speculate, how do they not suffer from inbreeding? Like any other primate looking for a mate, they understand far more than we realize. They're not going to mate within the same family. And they're going to travel long distances to

find a mate. And I do believe they're out there. Just like any other primate, like when chimpanzee, a young chimpanzee or a young orangutan or a young gorilla is forced from family group because of a bachelor and it goes it looks for what it needs is a place to support its life and females those are what it's looking for so if we are seeing big for it i think we're probably seeing young males out looking for a family you know or old ones as i've said before that are dying like i see a lot of folks there was one that popped up recently and to be honest i think this is what hurts a lot of bigfoot research is most of what does come to us is clearly a hoax at least it is to me a lot of it when it's I think a lot of people see that.

I saw one recently that I have to call and say that I believe it was a very hoaxie, at least. And it was the Colorado one, I don't know if you remember that or not, but all the people on the train or something going through and there's a big foot in the field. Oh, yeah, that was proven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just seems to me like, you know, that's what most people see. And that thing shared 10 million times and everybody's going, come on, how are you, how are you guys believe this? But that's mostly what people end up seeing. What they don't see is their real research being done.

And there is real research like right now on Arang Pendock and Indonesia and Alaska right now. There's actual research being done. And people don't see that. So they believe that it's all a hoax. And a lot of folks do. I think when I talk with a lot of people, they just cannot open up the door of possibility. And to be honest, if I hadn't had the experience that I did, I'd be right there with them. I'd be right there 100% with them.

But I saw something that I can't rationally explain. I've tried my old life. And I do believe it out there with David Shealy. I'm with David Shealy on this. Someone's sure that I believe that they should be offered designation. We have to have some proof of their existence. We have to have something. And I've actually talked one of my best friends, his uncle's the state representative.

And I've been talking with him for years about this very issue. And if we could get, the problem is, the problem was something like that is, would the conservation kill it? If we did find one, would they survive us? I don't know. But we have to come to a place where we have to have some solid evidence that they're there or we can't designate them as a species. So people are trying to do that. And they've got some tantalizing evidence right now in Florida.

They really do. They've got pairs. They've got a few things that they cannot definitively say belong to any known animal in Florida, to any thing. There's some talk that they're primate in origin and they'll be able to prove that they're primate in Florida. So if they can prove if there's a primate in Florida and they can't prove what type it is, And that's another really good thing for us.

That's another really good thing for us. It can't hurt us at all. Oh, absolutely. I've always said if we could get a court together and we can get a jury and we would put it all together, we might be able to prove the case at least to enough people that they would offer the designation. Is Ben, such a pleasure to have you on finally and to have a conversation with it? How can people best keep up to date with what you're doing as the creature preacher? We've got a lot of different irons in the fire, but I'm getting into doing what you're doing.

doing. I'm going to start our podcast here shortly. I'd like to have you on our podcast. Cool. But we're going to be doing that at the Creature Preacher Podcast. And of course, we're on the Creature Preacher at most platforms from YouTube to Instagram. And I'm just getting started on some of those. But I'm about to have you guys give us some follow there. And I have a feeling you'll be here more of me. We're going to be a little bit more public with what we've been doing with Bigfoot. I've had some talk of even some invites on some of the shows to talk. So that might be interesting to do. I just never really, when I started this, a show right now that we've been working on for years called The Creature Chronicles,

which is an animal program that's going to delve into some of these things as well, because I believe that it's an animal. It'll be a show that has a little bit of everything from the very real conservation of Florida Pampiers and Manatee to the very real conservation of the skunk gate. We'll have a little bit of everything on that show. But I'm looking forward to the podcast and having you on, so I'll be talking with you more about that, buddy. Absolutely.

Oh, that's exciting news. And, yeah, we will definitely be in touch. But thanks so much for coming on, friend. Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. Special thank you to the Creature Preacher for coming on the show. There was a 20-minute segment that I did have to cut as it went into topics, not necessarily Bigfoot related, and that could really get both of us more than potentially kicked off certain platforms. So we're in this for the long haul, guys, as you already know if you're listening.

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